Tiffany Stained Glass Plating Technique V254

Tiffany Stained Glass Plating Technique. And and Jeanne Gomm team up to teach the Tiffany Stained Glass Plating Technique. A somewhat rare and unexplored technique where two pieces of glass are layered together to combine colors and textures.
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[@kimmarie5442]

Sanford Bray patented the copper foil technique. Tiffany purchased the patent 2 years later. You've taught me so much! Thank you!

[@GommStainedGlass]

That is awesome!

[@joeswampdawghenry]

Its very simple.. He was n impressionist... Ur welcome

[@GommStainedGlass]

It's surprising to me how few are the folks who know about this technique.

[@aussiemachandmadeeverything]

That was vrilliant to watch & now i cant wait to see that table & what you do next with that, that is a great idea using the e6000 Great tip Thankyou 😊

[@GommStainedGlass]

Awesome, thank you!

[@Zfickoff]

Haha, we remarked "beautiful" at the same time at the reveal. Cheers, for the help!

[@GommStainedGlass]

Thanks so much. I'm surprised that more stained glass studios don't teach more about plating!

[@sylviendresen6243]

Thank you! The calm and thorough description of the process is exactly what I need to move on!

[@GommStainedGlass]

It's a very rewarding technique!

[@JanneGlass]

Thank you so much that was very interesting!

[@GommStainedGlass]

Amazing that it isn't talked about much and there isn't training on how to do it.

[@altpotus6913]

I have been doing stained glass in a commercial setting for around 20 years. This video on plating has been very informative. Thanks!

[@GommStainedGlass]

Thanks. It's a technique that comes in handy once in awhile. We might do it once every couple of years. 😀😀😀

[@dondelgado4300]

Thank you great video my friend

[@GommStainedGlass]

You are welcome. This technique is one that we don't use often, but sometimes it's just the right thing to finish off a panel. 🙂

[@davidhill1220]

Can’t wait to see the video on the glue!! Thank you Patricia

[@GommStainedGlass]

Wish it would appear magically 😝

[@wendygerrish4964]

That was enlightening

[@GommStainedGlass]

And it's rare, not many folks know about this great method!

[@kristycannon7923]

I will say, you are so correct about using this technique sparingly within a project! Not only for the overall weight of a panel, but also the chances of getting flux or water, moisture in between the two pieces of glass. I have tried several times to plate things, and have managed to get flux inside the two pieces and it's a real bummer to have to start over. I have not tried foiling each piece separately, but have tried using extra extra wide foil to plate two glass pieces and trimming it back if needed. And like you, painting the (paste) flux on very lightly seems to work better. This method seems to work very well with two flat sheets of glass for me, but whenever I try to put something inside the 2 glass pieces (i.e. a feather or bug wing etc) it seems there's a 50/50 chance of leakage between the two panes. I have experimented with using 1/4" foil first (holding the two pieces tightly together wrapping as one unit), then rewrapping the whole thing again with a 3/8" or 5/16" foil. This has yielded better results for me. But, I think I will give your method of foiling each individual piece first and see how it goes. Thanks David & Jeanne, always learning more through your channel! Kristy😊

[@GommStainedGlass]

Thanks for your email... At the end of the video I described another method where you can glue glass with E6000 glue with no bubbles. What we've done has worked really well and it may be a superior method because the space between the pieces is completely sealed

[@kristycannon7923]

@@GommStainedGlass Lol, I paused the video for a minute to make my comment, then went back to watch the end of the video and saw that about the E6000, and thought, " I would really like to see how they get the bubbles out of the glue! Can't wait for that video!!!" Very interested in that, got all sorts of creative ideas swirling around now!😊

[@GommStainedGlass]

@@kristycannon7923 Jeanne says it's not very technical, just apply the clear glue, and squeeze it down well

[@shellybaker5]

I love the jewel save...thank you for this video.I wish I was better than I am, but you both help me so much.Thank you.

[@GommStainedGlass]

When you need a piece that isn't available, you need to find a technique that will suffice. We needed a colored jewel and could only find a clear one in that size so lamination was the obvious solution. We've plated glass several times but this time we filmed it. Glad you liked it!

[@edgarsolis9293]

Thanks for sharing this!! Will try to do something using this technique 😀

[@GommStainedGlass]

Remember this is a "less is more" technique, so do it sparingly!

[@trishahukins9343]

Don't you hate it when the client tries to tell you how to make the project? One time a lady did that to me, so I told her, "Well, why don't you just do it yourself being that you know so well how it should be done?" It's so satisfying to work for clients who trust you and your talent and skill enough to back off and let you dazzle them with a finished product that exceeds their expectations.

[@GommStainedGlass]

I once had a discussion with an artist that we were making a piece for. We had made a face for an art piece and she wanted a more garish looking face which would have made it look cartoony. I did the face she wanted, but I also did the more subtle face that I preferred. So I had done three different faces and she didn't like any of them. Her husband said, they're the glass artists, why not let them do what they think is right. That convinced her to let us do the more subtle face and now after more than a dozen years, we still refer to that decision and how much she loves the face we came up with.😬😄😁

[@davidhill1220]

Really appreciate this tutorial Thank you ❤️ Patricia

[@GommStainedGlass]

It's a technique that you'll find useful every now and then. Thanks For the comment!

[@pauwerwoman1247]

A very informative video 🤗 thank you💎🌸🍃

[@GommStainedGlass]

Tiffany was a good artist and a terrible businessman but he pioneered many valuable techniques. 😍😍😍

[@memaribeth]

beautiful window!

[@GommStainedGlass]

Thank you, it's hard to tell since the work table is so stained. It really turned out nice. 😀😀😀

[@sharonholmes4614]

That was really cool turned out beautiful thanks for sharing that with us.

[@GommStainedGlass]

We had fun showing the technique. Make sure that if you work with transparent glass that the foil on the first layer is offset so that when you put them together, it won't be seen on the finished piece.

[@DrGIUPUI]

I notice from watching a lot of your videos ( which I thoroughly enjoy) that you seldom put a frame around the window. I was taught to use a zinc frame and I find that it makes the window much more stable and even for smaller pieces like a small transom make the installation go a lot easier. Are you designing in more stability into your pieces ( forth coming video?)or is your technique so much better than mine that your panels are more rigid than mine? I have seen you reinforcing on some large panels, but usually not. Thanks.

[@GommStainedGlass]

It depends on the use of the window. If it's going in an insulated unit between tempered panes, we don't always need extra reinforcement. If it's going in a skylight that will hang flat, it definitely needs more reinforcement which I show in the video on the skylight. Panels that are going in a wooden frame or a cabinet door will get caulked or siliconed in so don't require a zinc border. Over 4' X 4' we reinforce internally under 3' X 3' don't usually need extra reinforcement.

[@emachine310]

Question from a total newbie. Only creation to my name is 4 pieces of candy corn but would have using lead came for a project this size have been better or is copper foiling the way to go?

[@GommStainedGlass]

We only do the copper foil method in our studio, no lead came done here. We feel that copper foil is stronger, more versatile and easier to use.

[@OsCarlosluzivegas]

Vou fazer isso aqui no Brasil. Pena que aqui não é muito valorizado está arte

[@GommStainedGlass]

Good Luck with your art, stained glass and mosaic art are often looked down upon, even in the art community. That's okay, we know how beautiful it is!

[@mabelaguado2337]

Precioso 👏👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@GommStainedGlass]

Thankyou

[@emiliofigueroa5413]

I thank you so so much....for many years Ive been looking for a learning tool to help me......I spent all day looking at your video and forgot to get to my do MY HONEY DO LIST TODAY its also the day I got my saw cutter GRYPHON ZEPHYR from anything in glass,,,,,I love learning doing stain glass iam not as you but i try to do my bestdo you have any for using the saw you cn share wuth me.......emilio from lakeland fl....

[@GommStainedGlass]

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[@dianetoor3117]

I wish you would have shown putting the two pieces together.

[@GommStainedGlass]

We foiled the jewels together with green glass and then soldered them into the window, tacking them in and then soldering the whole piece. Easy to miss the assembly.

[@gardneraf]

Samuel Bray patented the Copper-Foil Technique in around 1887 and he also described using it to make Dome, Cylinder and Cone Lamps..... L.C. Tiffany bought the Patents in about 1893, Bray never really used the technique very much if at all...... Henry Belcher has a very interesting technique using mainly small triangular pieces and pouring molten-lead into the window while it was clamped between sheets of Asbestos...... John Lafarge, i think may have invented Plating..... All the history is fascinating....

[@GommStainedGlass]

Thanks, LaFarge was a great contemporary of Tiffany and it's debated as to what he invented and what Tiffany pioneered

[@gardneraf]

@@GommStainedGlass LaFarge made some hanging lanterns in about 1881 for Vanderbilt`s "Japanese" Room... I don`t know if they have survived though..... I`v seen auction photos of them, but these could be reproductions..... Thanks.

[@vicrothman1402]

Plating was used decades before LaFarge and Tiffany. LaFarge, Tiffany and others popularized the use of LOTS of plating and multiple layers of plating

[@theresevarney4715]

Jennie, Did you design that panel? It's absolutely beautiful and the colors are perfect! I don't have access to a stained glass store. Where can I purchase the jewels online? I love your videos! Huge fan from Washington State 😃 🌲🌲🌲

[@GommStainedGlass]

Yes I did. We buy them from a wholesaler as seconds, you might try delphi, they carry jewels

[@lauralorenz8570]

Nice panel! Quick foiling question...do you have to grind all pieces of glass before putting foil on? I have a panel with lots of pieces that fit well already and would like to go straight to foil but not sure if the rough edge of the glass from not grinding would ruin the foil. Thanks!

[@GommStainedGlass]

To grind or not depends on the condition of the glass, if it's chipped or rough consider grinding, you want your glass to be smooth so as to avoid stress areas in the glass that could lead to cracks. If you're dealing with straight cuts that you did with a strip cutter, we often skip the grid and go right to foiling. Great question that we ask ourselves every time we build.

[@caeciliaderrick8741]

Good morning. I am new to the art form. Once quick question please. I did a panel which is to be installed into a small cabinet door. All went well until I used the patina. I made a came panel, cemented the piece and than used the patina. My piece also has a zinc border. The patina looks patchy and the border zinc does not want to take the patina. Can you tell me what I did wrong? Thank you. I love the panel you made. The colours are gorgeous.

[@GommStainedGlass]

You need to look at our recent video Zinc On Arched Window And Patina Zinc V303 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bV6ZgYKXpt-ifNU 😀😀😀

[@caeciliaderrick8741]

@@GommStainedGlass I will. Thank you.

[@johnbarnette3916]

is that side going to be inside or outside? looks really good nice peice

[@GommStainedGlass]

It's an interior panel so it will be on the exposed interior where it can be seen easily.

[@charliegregg9447]

Hi do you have to tin all foil lines on a project? Sometimes I just leave them as is . will the foil eventually separate from the glass?

[@GommStainedGlass]

You do not, in fact that's only done for convenience especially when doing 3D construction. When you solder, the metal flows into the gaps and you'll see it on the opposite side when you turn it over to solder the back. You get a solid seal. You can even test this by pouring water on the back when you're done, it won't flow through beacause it's sealed so well. 💦💦💦

[@bonniecarter3843]

What brand of foil do you prefer?

[@GommStainedGlass]

We usually use venture tape which is made by 3m Great American is good but I've gotten several orders where the tape is wound around itself and cut wrong, so even though it's cheaper I get the Venture. I prefer the 1 il thickness since it's easier to folder over and less panful on the fingers. The thickness doesn't matter as to strength since the solder is what we get strength from.

[@bonniecarter3843]

@@GommStainedGlass thank you so much, I love watching and learning from your videos.

[@toniasargisian975]

❤❤❤❤

[@GommStainedGlass]

Thanks. It's a pleasure to share

[@georgteepe5539]

I have worked on Europian churches that had double pieces.They were put there long before Tiffany was ever born. We always thought they were put on to make color corrections after the windows had been installed.

[@GommStainedGlass]

Makes sense, Tiffany started out doing major church scenes and was known for cutting out a center piece of glass to get just the right look for an installation.

[@Justincasey1991]

You didn't even show us how you actually did the plating. Just foiling the finished result.

[@GommStainedGlass]

I put two pieces of glass together and then foiled them as one piece. That's the technique. That's how it's done.

[@Justincasey1991]

Oh that's all? No adhesive or type of glue involved? What about a piece that would be layered on top of another piece as an added detail that would not be touching any soldered edges? Like maybe doing a button on a sweater but without making extra cut lines?

[@GommStainedGlass]

@@Justincasey1991 In that case it wouldn't be plating it would be some kind of adhesion.. a completely different technique which I've seen done on art pieces. We use E6000 when gluing pieces to glass (such as when doing jewelry).

[@Justincasey1991]

@@GommStainedGlass do you have any videos of you doing that?

[@GommStainedGlass]

@@Justincasey1991 I think I can make one, look for it in the next few weeks, we've already got two others scheduled.