TikTok's "ExMormonMindy" - Kayla White - Mormon Stories

[@blairrabun217]

When I’m listening to Kayla describe her financial hardship and the pain of that, I can’t help but get angry with the church because we now know that the church hoarded billions of dollars. It makes me sick. Kayla, you are such a strong person.

[@suzyvivian7514]

I'm so proud of you I wish I had wised up a lot sooner. It was just 2 years ago that I finally realized the church is not what it tries to make us believe. I'm 72 and sooo glad I'm out.

[@ajackson5955]

The fact that you were able to see what others refuse to even look at, is impressive. Feel free not to answer, but how long were you in the church before you left? I left at age 36 (born and raised in the church). It was a very difficult time for me. I felt as though I was walking away from everything I had built my life on (because I was). I have an older relative who no longer believes but won’t disassociate from the church because it’s the only thing they’ve ever known.

[@alisaspear3382]

Suzy you're a queen! I'm so proud of u

[@tracygrist9828]

I was a strong Mormon for 25 years-(age 23 til 48) raised 7 children...all baptized...and discovering the truth and researching has taken me to being a secular humanist and all of my kids ‘made it out’. Truth:I loved being Mormon. I learned so many things and it helped me when I was a mom. Also truth: It was hard discovering the lies I was fed by the LDS church. These podcasts/KZbin/TikToks have helped me more than I can express! I deeply appreciate you, John and Kayla!💖

[@emilybarnes8144]

I love Mindy! She was the first ex Mormon I found on social media (tik tok), she has been super inspiring to me... Thanks for showing us we are not alone in our journey!

[@christinaalexander6942]

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[@Exmormonmindy]

Ah I love this! Thank you! 🥰

[@kristintaylor6008]

Whoa. I feel like I'm listening to my story. So much shame, so much gaslighting, magical thinking. You never feel like you're enough. Modesty was huge in my family, too. I was once yelled at for wearing a tank top in the basement of my house. Thanks for sharing your story!

[@OssieRichards]

John is just adorable … he gets so animated when the moment comes the guest eyes are opened wide … hasn’t gotten old yet. its an animated energetic exchange between these two. .. eerily reminiscent of watching two excited teenagers.

[@tracygittins6343]

"What the hell was that?" has to be the universal reaction to the endowment.

[@joseejohnstun4641]

I was told not to look at my husband in the temple! We got married in the Timp temple in 2016 and we couldn’t look at each other. I’ve since brought it up with people and they are shocked like “wait why? What do you mean? Why not?” So I started doubting myself that I was remembering it wrong! My goodness, thank you for talking about that 💛

[@cbelanger2287]

Thank you. I wish I would have found out when I was in my 30's not my 50'. The feeling of betrayal is so intense. Your experience speak so much to me.

[@user-bw3fl7fj9w]

So, true

[@ajackson5955]

I have always wished I had found out earlier. I left at 36. The amount of wasted potential is astounding. What would we all have been capable of, had we followed those initial doubts, instead of fearing the reprisal for asking the wrong questions?

[@ericj3138]

People who are willing to step forward, say the hard truths and take the heat are true heroes. Silencing people who are speaking the truth is what the church has done since it's founding.

[@camrynpickles2549]

i love the analogy of the church being like an abusive ex. it’s trauma. i’m allowed to deal with it as i choose.

[@IIIJT]

What hurt more than finding out I believed in a lie, knowing that the people I trusted the most in LDS leadership knew about the lie, perpetuate the lie and did so with a myriad array of half-truths and "sleight of hand" linguistic techniques. The feeling of betrayal in the midst of an "existential" free fall was somewhat overwhelming. I still want to believe that many in LDS leadership are simply honestly-wrong and not malicious in intent. I admit sometimes it's difficult to do so. Even though many leaders may be well intended, they are absolutely lying (maybe lying/ half-truths for the Lord) about many things and they know it, they know that we know it and I don't think they really know what to do about it.

[@KitKat-gw4rh]

Preach 🙌🏻

[@funkyfreshtx]

After reading Grant Palmer’s book “Restoring Christ” I wholeheartedly agree that the Mormon Church is the living embodiment of the Pharisees that Jesus hated and condemned in the New Testament. Always concerned about the outward appearance and outward devotion and judging/shaming those who dont fall suit.

[@funkyfreshtx]

@@kenolson3064 yes! thank you

[@goingtothetop55]

While there is a lot of truth to this, it does not represent the doctrine or how members are supposed to conduct themselves. It's unfortunate no doubt!

[@blairrabun217]

You’re amazing! Thank you for sharing your story.

[@Exmormonmindy]

Thank you! 🥰

[@cecelianelson4770]

I love that I got a commercial for the Book of Mormon while watching this.

[@tiffanie401]

Thanks for sharing your story Kayla! I didn't speak out for 15 years because I let the church still control me. I didn't even watch anything "antimormon" even though I firmly believed the church was false. It's so crazy that even us who think we're out sometimes aren't really out!

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

I remember having to go through the Bishop's storehouse too. It was so embarrassing. I was out of work and my dad on disability. If you have a cell phone they'll make you get rid of it. Anything with payments that's considered by them to be unnecessary you won't get help. The cult hoards billions of dollars but will never help the very people who were guilted into giving that money to them. I hope it burns to the ground.

[@gigi1332]

Realizing you have been lied to about apsolty everything for 43 years of one's life is a horrific nightmare.

[@bonnygu3]

This was an incredible interview. So many things Kayla mentioned are things that I have felt for so many years, especially as a young women in the church. It feels very validating. As a victim of childhood sex abuse I always felt so much shame and guilt for things that weren’t my fault and I always wondered if that was why God didn’t speak to me.

[@TheBooklover1848]

This is literally the first time I've heard anyone talk about the impact of garments on women's health.

[@kathrynclass2915]

Just started listening now. I’m at the modesty part. For me, instead of feeling like my body was bad, dangerous or that I was inherently evil for having a body that men find tempting, the message I got was that men were inherently dangerous, possibly evil, DEFINITELY can’t be trusted with sexual things, that they have no self control, so it was up to me to be the gatekeeper or the regulator. Its almost the same message that I hear from a lot of women but with a slightly different angle. It’s was super damaging messaging to get. It was really bad for my relationship to my husband and I still hadn’t figured that out when my oldest son reached puberty so I feared for him and what he was going to become. It was SO bad. I have apologized to my husband and son and done my best to repair that damage.

[@rachelworkman9652]

Wow, I honestly never thought about this but I totally agree. Like I assumed my husband loved porn and was like lying to me about it before we met just cuz he isn’t and wasn’t Mormon. I think Mormon leaders make you feel like people outside of the church just look at porn and are wicked people. I’m messed up with nudity in movies. Like if I look I’m wicked and sinning. Ugh brainwashing Thanks mormonism:p I’m out and getting better about it :)

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@rachelworkman9652 make no mistake, porn is bad. It messes up your brain and there's evidence it does the same to your body as hard drugs. It also fuels the sex trafficking industry. There are numerous cases of people (mostly women) being trafficked and forced into pornography. Read "Pornland" by Gail Dines and "Getting Off" by Robert Jensen.

[@provetome1199]

Kayla thank you! You are very fortunate to have overcome the shame, pain and feelings of betrayal by the organization in such a short time. It took me years to get over this stage of the grief cycle, I’ve been out (not attending) for over five years, nonbeliever for over eight years. I appreciate you and the many others who have publicly spoken even comically about Mormonism. Tiktok is for sure a form of therapy, we need to laugh.❤️💪🏽😊

[@kr4703]

This was an excellent interview. May your family be blessed as you navigate these waters. God is with you.

[@kimmychan1967]

Breath of fresh air! I’m 53 & just figuring it out. Totally felt betrayed, conned & angry. So many things I’ve done because of my beliefs. So many things I would have done different now that I know the truth. Keep reaching the young ones!!!

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

As I listen to this interview I am just blown away. I am at 1:34:00 and my jaw has dropped so many times. Wow, what she has been through is .....a LOT to bear especially on a mental level.

[@rccarter7576]

I remember, many years ago, my wife and I needed Church assistance while I was between jobs. After a couple of weeks had gone by the Bishop called us in, seated us then began to look at some paperwork. he lifted his eyes from a page then focused on us saying, "wow! You've rung up quite a bill here." Huh!, the only thing I could think was that I needed to repay a bill. So, in a nanosecond, my attitude toward contributing to the Church changed. I concluded that if the Church's assistance program was ultimately viewed by its leadership as accounts to be repaid then tithings and offerings were bills or accounts too. Therefore, like my bank accounts, It made perfect sense to me, that I could repay the Church's bill by transferring money from the Tithing and Offering Account to the Church's Assistance Account.

[@fellowviewer1095]

I'm so sorry that happened to you. It doesn't matter how you designate it. For about the last 10 years all money goes into the general fund. It's a small disclaimer on the slip now.

[@darnokish]

I was lucky to have good (mostly) Bishops who would never pull this crap. One Bishop took people in trouble into his own home for a month until they got on their feet. We focused on getting people jobs and housing. I'm exmormon because the church is not true, but I personally had good experience with welfare and (most) leadership (not in Utah btw).

[@caine2b]

One of the best episodes! Thank you for being so open with your story.

[@lorineilson7529]

Kayla you are not alone. I left the church in 2017. I couldn't stomach the fact that J.S. married 14 year old girls and other men's wives and that it wasn't talked about while I was in the church. I found that out while watching Heart of the Matter on KZbin. Bless you and your family.

[@fabidepaulo]

I loved this video so much! I just wanted to give Kayla a hug several times. I feel it and I saw myself in a lot of experiences she shared. YOU ARE SO BRAVE KAYLA! I wish you the best!!

[@amybeal9981]

Thank you for your story! Your TikTok where you are talking to your self crying about “What I wish I could tell myself...” (7-24-2020) honestly changed my thinking. I felt like there was hope. I remember when I first watched it I felt like I related to your “exmo” self. (I was inactive because of things I didn’t agree with.) THEN after learning about all the history I related to your “raw” self. Backward but it just shows how intense this all is.

[@gomezgwen11]

I joined the military to get out of my super Mormon parents house 🙃

[@santiaraymond1986]

Whaaaaaatttt????? Thats crazy and sad.

[@v2snider1]

YeAh you go soldier girl

[@manderson4803]

How did it turn out. I feel like I might be watching this happen?

[@gomezgwen11]

@@manderson4803 I left still a believer but not active, met my now husband in the service, tried to get him to convert to please my parents (which he did to make me happy), we eloped because we didn’t want to wait to marry in the temple, while trying to answer a question of his about the spirit, I stumbled upon the CES letter, I deployed and became almost obsessed with finding out the truth, emailed my dad about not believing anymore and it went as horrible as i imagined. When I got back, my husband and I wrote the church to have our records removed. All in all, I’m glad i left. Utah is a bubble that if you don’t leave, you probably never will.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@gomezgwen11 Utah itself isn't all Mormon though...

[@EMILY_EX1968]

I appreciate hearing your story. I hear you. I feel i had the identical experience. My mothers teachings were similar to your mothers style. Thank you for being so willing to share all your life experiences. You are soooo awesome.

[@winnithschrywer2011]

I've always wondered why Mormons think they have a right to come into your house and insult you... Like are they drunk with power.... There is no inspiration there!

[@TEA-fj3ut]

Drunk on ignorance and narcissistic egos. Covid ended all their visitations. Many are raised that way without control just brainswashed, which is sad.

[@mariettedemarest5173]

I don't invite them ( or the Jehova Wittness people) into my home.

[@hollyjones8716]

I felt the exact same way, alarm bells ringing in my head when they said 'if you're not ready, leave' but I truly couldn't when there was so much social pressure.

[@ajackson5955]

Same. Plus, I was really curious about the things I was going to learn. I thought I was about to have all the unanswered questions, answered. What a giant let-down. The church should do itself a favor, and quit hyping the endowment so much. In all the times I visited the temple, I learned nothing from a doctrinal or spiritual standpoint. Other than the ritual weirdness of it, there is nothing of significance that is revealed in the temple, unless they expect people to actually believe this bullshit happened.

[@kimkahikina7097]

How sad for all the struggles you have been through then judged. All the Best to you & your family. Freedom must be beautiful!

[@chelseaczech]

My aunt does this with my brother who completed suicide and so I know my situation is different but thank you for what you guys have said about the receiving revelation

[@eleesab4883]

I love your energy, Kayla! Thank you for sharing it and your experience.

[@h.r.9563]

Oh my gosh I stopped wearing garments because I was losing baby weight and now I'm realizing they might have been the cause of my recurring yeast infections, and how I only had issues when I wore them...

[@beckieastalos8747]

Wow I loved this interview! My experience growing up in the church was very similar. I’ve been questioning for years now!

[@snugasaglove]

John, I enjoyed Kayla but I more enjoyed you in this. I saw and felt more you here. You shared so much about yourself through your experiences in Mormonism. I felt more emotion from you here than I have in other vids, God bless and cover you.

[@awilk07]

Kayla you were not alone in how the church made you feel! There were so many things you said that I felt could have been me. My parents were super strict about modesty too. I was a petite girl but was forced to wear large size clothes to stay "modest." When I "rebelled" and insisted on wearing clothes that actually fit me, I was called a slut and accused of trying to purposely trying to attract guys to my body in a sexual way.... Never mind the fact I was terrified to talk to boys (because of Mormon culture) and my "slutty" clothes covered every inch of my body in every Mormon way... But the fact you could see my developing curves was "promiscuous"

[@Exmormonmindy]

Ah man! I'm always torn between being glad someone out there understands and hating that they went through something similar! :( It is nice to know I'm not alone!

[@confessionsofareformedmormon]

I grew up in the armpit of Utah..lol. I knew exactly where she was talking about! Haha.

[@mylesmarkson1686]

I just hope it doesn't stink too bad over there!

[@lauracorsi3309]

Great interview! Love Kayla!

[@mylesmarkson1686]

She's my type of crazy White woman!

[@manderson4803]

She is handling her childhood really well 💕

[@brunettebrownie8240]

I relate soo much to Kayla... I have a few terrible experiences by members in the church. So many members are judgmental.. mostly to other people in the church. Just one I’ll share- when I was a teenager I had a Mormon bf and his mom was the Young Women’s President. We had a lesson about following the For Strength of Youth and specifically not steady dating. She singled me out and used me as an example of what not to do. I remember storming out and crying.

[@kittykatt591]

I spent 2 years after my mission crying and begging while I prayed for an answer as to why I had to return early from my mission. I've gone to the temple multiple times just for that reason. And one day I was fed up and said "say something, or I'm giving up", and the answer never came, even until this day. I've never been better since, it's way more painful to think that you aren't good enough and that God left you alone and doesn't care, than to think that nothing could have been changed because God doesn't exist. Before I was angry that God had the power to bless me with health and he choose not to, even though I was deserving of it and that he is bound when we do our part, and now I'm angry that I lived a lie for 22 years of my life, and it was the center of my life. I'm just so glad I'm free.

[@FitnesswithTara]

Thanks so much for this interview to both of you

[@kathrynclass2915]

Yep. Lived in NY with no air conditioning, humid summer sweltering oppressive heat and I was exercising in my garments.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

😳😵😭

[@delta932899]

I love Mindy’s energy. I can’t believe how the bishop treated her in her time of need. So wrong

[@karukun0212]

Boy, the financial discussion here is really something. All the strings attached--how "Christlike" that is. Amazing that people who should and do know better can't see how crazy they are behaving when they are in the middle of it. Thanks for allowing us to hear your story; I and my kids who also left each have our own stories and relate. CDR USN Retired / Professor / Returned Missionary / Leader who is "out."

[@funkyfreshtx]

you made me download tik tok and watched all your videos today Kayla. Thanks!

[@Exmormonmindy]

Ah I'm so glad! Tiktok is so so fun!

[@mikaylaprutsman3537]

I’m not mormon, my whole family was but my parents left the church before I was born. I’ve been watching your videos just to see what they went through and it’s so interesting seeing the similarities between everyone’s stories. My parents were dirt poor, and it seems like most Mormon families were. My dad told me that they were so poor he had to volunteer at the temple to get financial help, and was told that if he didn’t pay tithing he wouldn’t be poor. And that blew my mind.

[@corbinmckeeth2124]

Even though I'm a guy and therefore had a different (and maybe much easier) experience in the church, so many things in this hit so strong for me. Thank you for sharing and you are doing a GOOD thing by spreading the word. Keep it up! It's so helpful to others that aren't as strong!

[@Daiany294]

I was so scared to not wear my garments after having my baby that I kept wearing them and for 3 c section infections! Because it kept so much moisture in there It surely did not protect me lol. 😩

[@emptybusseat]

I love her TikToks!

[@Exmormonmindy]

Thank you! 🥰

[@suigeneris2663]

This woman’s mom sounds like the mom in Ordinary People. I can relate. I can’t tell you how many times I thought I’d finally gotten my mom the perfect gift, only to have her ask if she could return it.

[@davidfoust9767]

Omg the story about the temple president! Poor Greg just like oh boy I can't mess this up, keep looking at the old guy!

[@natalie9527]

Listening to the parts about praying for answers and spiritual experiences and receiving nothing... I feel more understood now. It always bothered me a lot at girl's camp and youth events where testimony bearing and such was expected, and I always felt like something was wrong with me because I never had anything to say or add. Even going to visit Palmyra and Kirtland in my early teen years, I felt nothing even though I was expected to develop and share a testimony.

[@beckieastalos8747]

I felt exactly the same growing up! There was something wrong with me!! I know better now!

[@leahtheanimationfan40]

I thought I had a testimony, but it turned out to be indoctrination. I never chose to believe it, but it was shoved on me since birth

[@raquelsever3171]

Great interview! Love Exmormon Mindy. She was the first exmo I found on tik tok then discovered her you tube.

[@Exmormonmindy]

Ah thank you! :)

[@funkyfreshtx]

OMG they assumed Greg was in a gang because of those things? Unreal!!

[@mariettedemarest5173]

@@NormaJean951 lol

[@funnygirlchelsea]

i LOVE her tiktok!! She's awesome, and I've related so much to so many of her videos!

[@Sarahwithanh444]

Fantastic interview - 100 100 100% relate to your story Kayla! 100%!!

[@lynnmarie750]

I can’t get the song outta my head “We’ll bring the world his truth” it’s along the lines of “We are as the army of Lazy Learners” and “we’ll bring lax disciples the truth”

[@Han-xt3fg]

She speaks a lot about her mum‘s overcompensation when it came to rules - I watched that in my family as well...and think its an attempt to overcome the lower status you are given as less wealthy mormon. (Edited gramma)

[@mormonstories]

Great feedback, Han!

[@TubeTreasure2]

I really loved your TikTok videos they are so funny. I don't think your family should be angry at you because you are telling the truth in the videos, if you were not telling the truth then I would be saying what you are doing is wrong but you're telling the truth. I come across ex mormons on the internet who seem overly respectful towards the mormon Church they are just too nice, I feel they should be angry because the church can do a lot of harm to people, as you have pointed out. I like the way you come across, this is how I think you should feel I don't understand why some people on TikTok may not feel you are not their cup of tea because every thing you say makes sense and it is good satire. I too thought you look likely Emily Smith. So glad you found your authentic self, you seem like a nice person.

[@andreaweloth5976]

“It’s because I have a penis” 🤣 I legit spit out my coffee 🤣 Kayla I’ve subscribed to you!!

[@mwillis7791]

Kayla, thank you for sharing your story. I am so sorry you and your family were treated so horrendously. You did NOT deserve that. Much respect. I am so happy to be a new subscriber to your KZbin channels, ❤️

[@toknowthislove528]

Yes, I experienced the same instructions to not look at my spouse as we were getting married. My grandpa married us in the temple. He was a patriarch and a temple worker and was the one who married us. I do not know his title for what he did in the temple. *changed me to us

[@robinsaxophone232]

My sister had a neighbor who took her son’s prom date shopping for a modest gown, because she didn’t think she would choose something appropriate. And that was the only way her son would be allowed to take her. How humiliating that would be.

[@mwest3191]

Temple procedures sound like the inner monologue of someone having a really bad day. ‘….and NO LOUD LAUGHTER, DAMNIT.’

[@Sheezy1616]

John, what are the origins of this ridiculous "white shirt expectation"???????? I am a former member who was guilt tripped by other members to stop wearing colored shirts my non-Mormon family had bought me.

[@Sheezy1616]

@@scottvance74 thank you for the response!!! My father, who was the non-Mormon in my immediate family, used to get irate about the churchs policy on that. I used to feel ashamed as a deacon,teacher, priest when I wore colored shirts. Best part was, all the young women at my church used to tell me how good it looked and how much they wished the other men would do the same. Such a harmful policy but it falls in line with the cult-like control practices.

[@mindeloman]

I can't speak to white shirts but clean shaven men was a by product of the first world war. Up until then soldiers could have facial hair. The need for an air tight seal for gas masks brought down the clean shaven mandate. In correlation with that and the invention of the safety razor, clean shaven males became standardized in modern early 20th century grooming. This coincided with a MAJOR rebranding era for the church as they were trying to separate the modern 20th century image of the church away from the 19th century long-bearded polygamists. This is the real reason for clean shaven. it had nothing to do with beatniks and hippies.

[@mkultra7940]

Guess what? You help others like me, an exjw. Its incredible how the same manipulation tactics are used by different groups to the same effect. I can especially resonate with your experiences of body shaming and sexual repression. Namaste 💎

[@amde8554]

What is the link to the family channel she mentioned

[@mylesmarkson1686]

Get ready for a ridiculous level of crazy!

[@ChristopherSalisburySalz]

It's incredible to me that one of the most wealthy and demanding churches on the face of the earth is so stingy when it comes to helping one of its own. It doesn't matter if you've served faithfully and paid your tithing faithfully they don't care. They will shame you and make you feel horrible. So un-christ-like!!

[@humanbeing5396]

You think you could ever get on Ryan Gosling, Aaron Eckhart, Amy Adams, or Katherine Heigl? Go for it!

[@mylesmarkson1686]

Julianne Hough for me! Owwww!!!

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Brandon Flowers

[@fellowviewer1095]

That parade story is unbelievable. So sad.

[@user-bw3fl7fj9w]

I can see myself so much in her except I converted to the church at almost 32. Gave up marriage and children, as believed that I should only marry in the temple, but also wasn't sure if I wanted to marry and raise children in the church. When I finally said can marry outside the church, no one available as most good guys I meet were married, well maybe someday, post covid19!! Anyway, she found out about polygomy, Joseph Smith and the rock in the hat instead of the plates about the same time as I did. So, disappointed and upset. There has been some good things, esp nice friends. Why stay? I guess it's just easier, at this point in life, almost 60 years old, then starting over in another church. So, my Temple recommend will expire soon... maybe I will decide soon.. but, some things I like better than other churches... time will tell.

[@davidfoust9767]

It is true that is the policy that the first presidency has to approve being a member of a different ward. My Mom actually did write a letter to them and they approved it for our family. And we didn't really have a "good" reason except my Dad was inactive because he didn't like our ward. I think they actually probably approve them pretty often. If you care enough to write the letter then they would rather keep you going to church than going inactive.

[@MaryBearBoo]

I have subtitles on and they say "elders corn president" 😆

[@mormonstories]

😂😂😂

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

President Kernal

[@arduino172]

The comment around 1:40:00 is exactly what I was thinking during the story about the financial situation

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Her voice sounds exactly like I imagined from the thumbnail.

[@awakening2979]

Stop donating to that sick organization! I felt so bad for what Kayla had to go through. For a church so rich, they aren't so willing to help their own members in need! It spent as little as possible in humanitarian work, so they can say they did something. What a shame! It has so much money in the bank and it pays GA lots of money without the members knowing!

[@quacks2much]

I was asleep and this show came on. For some strange reason I thought ExMoMindy might be divorced and it kind of upset me. Maybe, it's because I've been married 43 years, and I want her marriage to last.

[@tawneenielsen4080]

I'm active and Mormons are extremely judgemental in every part of your life, even in things they shouldn't be thinking about. It's all self-righteous verbal and emotional abuse that needs to stop! You weren't offended you were abused

[@cybermollusk]

"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" Wow. Her mom said that to her.

[@roballred8497]

I’ve heard people in Utah say that over and over again

[@mwillis7791]

I was told that by my parents many times as well as by church leaders.

[@leslielou4970]

I watched Jessie Funks before this one. There’s some strong parallels! Thank you so much for sharing your story!!

[@theschnauz2138]

I think there are a lot more than 50,000 that have left the church. There are so many people that have walked away but haven’t resigned. I fully left in 1990 and I was living in a very Mormon area, outside of Utah. I didn’t resign until the 2010’s mostly because I didn’t know it was an option. I just thought that walking away spoke volumes. However, once I knew about it, I did it. I bet there are a lot of gen-xers, like me who walked away and haven’t resigned because they just didn’t bother or didn’t even realise it was an option. Mostly I think that because back then if you left there was no community. You left and just integrated into the rest of the world.

[@deb6519]

I left and never did a formal resignation.. because if you don't believe it means nothing anyway , right!?!

[@GetMeThere1]

The tide is turning. Soon HORDES will leave. My question is: Who will get the 135 billion??

[@mnshorten]

Thank you so much for sharing your story. Btw your mom sounds like my mother. I no longer speak with my mom. I hope you have a better relationship with yours now.

[@Mary9beth]

After I left I started reading Dolores Cannon’s books and the conversation with God books I really help me understand God. I suggest you read those so you can have a new conversation if your own with God but you know who he really is you’ll be way happier.

[@dorothybrewer6081]

Super Discussion/Interview... Love Kayla’s Energy & Spunk... The ‘cup’ was a little distracting - could you redo it with a mixture of pantomime & vocal.., just because your physical comedy/expressions are so cool... ✅ You & John - elevated my day !! *** Thanks.....

[@ChristopherSalisburySalz]

I have actually heard the "look at me" during temple weddings.

[@patkelly6981]

I would like to see two minute presentations on the history of the church. Example the rock in the hat. Golden Plates. Your first reaction to the new story. It was not a translation from golden plates but a rock in a hat. Or the first time you discovered the First Vision which took place in 1820 but nothing written, no sermons on that vision until 1832. It was not even talked about at the organization of the church in 1830. There are lots and lots of things that are so bad and even evil. My bet is your reaction to those issues will be the same as all the rest of us.

[@juliegoldbeck6431]

They tell you go to your family for help because they have no intention of helping you financially.

[@redbull83910]

Every time I share my Mormon family past it bothers me that people just blow it off like it’s nothing. The organization seriously damages people.

[@awkwardlyme8273]

Oh my god! Winter guard is the best!

[@funkyfreshtx]

“I dont believe Jesus would pay your car payment”??? GTFOH!! 🤬🤬🤬

[@mylesmarkson1686]

Yeah, Jesus is all "Car? Get yourself a camel. Are you trying to destroy the planet or what?"

[@rachelworkman9652]

I got in trouble in 8th grade for wearing a skort:p I went to a rehearsal for the school musical and wore it even though my mom said no. I remember sitting there thinking about how people were probably staring at my legs. I doubt they were but haha Mormon me thought that it was all about dirty thoughts:p

[@leadouglas9344]

I was waiting for this one!

[@tawneenielsen4080]

About the issue saying the spirit came to the step dad. Who knows, it was incorrect the way it was done and I have no idea if it was real or not. But I can tell you mom died when I was 10 and she came to a neighbor whom she was close to. The woman wasn't LDS, as I am, nor is she manipulative at all. You have to be careful not to judge every experience as being a way to manipulate. Yes, some are but some just aren't. It's not an absolute either way.

[@ltepezano]

Very true, but in Kayla’s case, I’d bet money her parents were trying to manipulate her. Especially with the examples of how they never fully supported her dating him.