TikTokers BEEF over "FAT PHOBIC" Controversy | Reaction

[@arthurgomes776]

the ''everything should be for everybody'' idea is so ridiculous and unreal.

[@ryyaannn_]

the argument was literally that most brands who claim to be inclusive are 1. NOT, and 2. clothes in bigger sizes are ugly

[@Forcasify]

You didn’t understand their point 😂😂😂 stupid

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

​@@ryyaannn_find a different brand that works for you. Who cares if a couple brands don't cater to you.

[@Stylzisahippie]

@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast the point is that companies shouldn’t advertise themselves as inclusive to all if that isn’t the case. Don’t say one thing then do another if you’re not ready for people to upset about it.

[@Shefwitjah]

That’s like if you go up to a cow as someone who is lactose intolerant, and get mad at the cow because YOU can’t drink the milk, what?😂

[@coltonc8894]

“You’re NOT gonna agree with everyone about everything. Grow up “ If that doesn’t sum up how sensitive people have become these days … lmao as if others aren’t allowed to have their own opinions

[@hlabhlabhlab]

Yeah but people have a right to vocally disagree. You put your opinion on the Internet you lose control of it and anyone can respond and have their own take.

[@coltonc8894]

@@hlabhlabhlab 100% agree on freedom of speech 👌🏼

[@re.invented3158]

Leo literally just described reality and people are mad???😅as a former overweight person, I know it sucks but bitching did nothing for me but depress me

[@aundrereid73]

Well that’s YOU! Why can’t bigger have the same cute clothes as the smaller people. He described a reality that we all are against which is why we are mad about it.

[@Shadow2pointO]

@@aundrereid73Bigger people look different than smaller people. That’s a fact! So by being said, whatever looks good on a smaller person most definitely won’t look flattering on a bigger person. Some things are exclusive and that is also a fact. You can’t have it all. That’s reality….

[@maniii1125]

@@Shadow2pointOwho cares if u think they look good or not 😂 if someone wants to buy an article of clothing even if YOU don’t like how it looks on them they should still be able to buy it tf

[@reylt4676]

⁠​⁠@@maniii1125If you want to buy an article of clothing and it doesn’t fit you then it doesn’t fit YOU. Who cares if you want it or not? Clearly not the brands otherwise they’d have it.

[@Shadow2pointO]

@@maniii1125 Again wrong misguided anger pal! Lol You can of course purchase unflattering clothes because it’s your money! But to sit here and complain about why it doesn’t look good is hilarious! Because it’s unflattering on YOUR body. You can’t force anyone to make something for your body type unless it’s custom or the brand claims to inclusive. And SOME brands are EXCLUSIVE to certain groups of people so COPE.💋

[@erica-cq7ns]

i don’t think you can compare and say skinny people don’t get mad when clothing brands are made just for overweight people because you have to think why was a brand for overweight people made in the first place? because they had no clothes catered to them for regular brands so they had to go out and create their own. that is true for so many minorities black people, lgbtq people, etc have to go out and create their own thing because they were excluded from the mainstream

[@dfdomo]

That hoodie is 🔥

[@poincianacouponing1622]

This is like vegans getting mad when certain companies don’t make vegan options. Why would they?

[@sassydollz3]

The difference is the brands who don’t make vegan food aren’t claiming to be inclusive to vegans that is really what stemmed this conversation on TikTok to start that the companies are claiming to be size inclusive, but really aren’t

[@Forcasify]

That was a stupid point 😂😂😂

[@sam-vh1ru]

Girl… is not the same

[@Itsdreya]

girl

[@Shadow2pointO]

Gurl….. this was late.

[@NicolesVision]

This guy that made this video is definitely catering, his opinions,to a certain group of people because I definitely agree with the ball-headed dude everything doesn’t have to be catered towards every single group of people and it doesn’t make a brand lazy because they don’t cater towards fat or skinny individuals

[@Hussain-qe4tx]

Yep hes just being a sheep 🐑 🙄 🤣

[@slurpee4203]

right, the guy reacting is giving pandering vibes 😭

[@Monnument]

For real its so irritating its giving "pick me" 😭😭

[@Shefwitjah]

I think he just wants the masses to like him, he’s a pawn😂

[@tyreek.6815]

He’s not catering or being a sheep. He’s clearly playing devils advocate trying to understand everyone’s sides before giving an opinion on it. Y’all attacking him for trying to see everyone for their opinions is corny. He’s a commentary video. Y’all want every commentator to agree or slander people all the time. That’s not how shit works. He’s normal. Y’all are messy. Nothing wrong with that… but y’all doing the most on his name.😭😭😭

[@Brownskynsky]

Finally someone said it, people have the right to make certain outfits for certain people, find another brand, it really isn't that hard

[@isabellesapphirethomas1681]

That part, people are deadass are acting like these companies are forcing them to buy their shit.

[@hlabhlabhlab]

​@@isabellesapphirethomas1681I mean they kind of are sometimes... depends on the brand and how main stream it is ...they always want money ...

[@NuNudelarenta]

So what do you think will happen when companies start only making clothes for white people? Straight people? If you excuse discrimination based on bodies your just as guilty for discrimination based on everything else

[@Ace-jw1lt]

Dee done traveled her way to Heaven 😍😍😭😭

[@tyreek.6815]

💀💀💀💀

[@jaylab8320]

😂😂😂

[@MARIAHMOMENTS]

Idk, I agree people shouldn’t be upset that every clothing brand isn’t inclusive but I don’t think that’s the point here or at least what Fannita was saying. She was saying how the brands that are or say they’re inclusive, make plus size clothing ugly and completely different to their standard sized clothing when it doesn’t have to be that way. Its not just about sizing but also about the design, that’s why fashion nova gets praised because they make the designs the same for different sizing. Also 67% of women in the US, UK even Australia are considered plus size so it’s not really a small minority of people ❤

[@sonderson6363]

That’s exactly what she was talking about 🤦🏾‍♀️ brands claiming to be inclusive and in reality aren’t.

[@kaydancep9933]

I like dee but nobody was talking about morbidly obese ppl. Like sizes 16 and up are the clothes most brands dont carry

[@babygirl4949]

@@kaydancep9933right like a lot of brands biggest size is XL. That’s kinda crazy bc I know a lot of ppl that size ppl you wouldn’t think would be that size are.

[@verfos]

She said a small portion of people are considered Morbidly obese, not just plus size. Morbid obesity is a medical term that describes an unhealthy state due to overweight. Plus size is just considered anything over a size 12. The average size for women is 16 in the US. From what i can find only 7.7% of all adults in the US are considered Morbidly obese. Just to clear up any confusion.

[@kaydancep9933]

@@verfos Thats literally what i just said. In the video Dee said if you can not fit the clothing brands you are more than likely morbidly obese. But in none of the videos was anyone talking about morbidly obese ppl

[@latinoprophet]

This conversation is so dumb bruh. Like honestly most brands tend to have bigger especially in men. Listen I’m a short dude. I’m 5’4 and I’m lean 125 lbs. I get frustrated too because stores for men HARDLY EVER HAVE ENOUGH SMALLS. But who cares I’ll go find another store or I’ll just shop online. People need to get over themselves bruh like chill out And the range of “smalls” is INSANE. Either so insanely tight or I’m swimming in it. Like if it don’t fit it AINT for me.

[@davesenatus5566]

For real. I’m not even gonna say where I end up having to shop… and I don’t even go to malls in particular for that very reason unless I’m looking for shoes or hats.

[@Shefwitjah]

Fr it gets frustrating but you gotta realize that your size is a specific size, it’s not gonna fit in most clothes that are created, idk why people can’t get over themselves, insecure asses

[@ryyaannn_]

what’s so weird is skinny people who get SO mad about this. like why are you so mad that some fat people are complaining? it’s giving YOU’RE sensitive too.

[@Ultimate_Gamer_3000]

I'd be mad too if i heard nothing but bitching from people unwilling to do anything about it besides complain.

[@m.a.2658]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Ultimate_Gamer_3000Except you could always…scroll past. Because otherwise you become a complainer like he did. Complaining about people’s complaints. Just a thought 🤷‍♂️

[@Ultimate_Gamer_3000]

@@m.a.2658 that's the entire point of the original guy's video. It's the same concept. You're just repeating what he said in a condensed manner.

[@m.a.2658]

@@Ultimate_Gamer_3000 I disagree.I think while he packaged his message as if it were self-help, that was disingenuous and it was really just a complaint of his own. Mine was genuinely advice. But hey, that’s my perspective.

[@Ultimate_Gamer_3000]

@@m.a.2658 that's your perception of it and I won't argue and say you don't see it that way but how you just described the video is exactly how i saw your comment so I feel we're at an impasse

[@kaydancep9933]

The video doesnt include the first part. No one said they HAD to make bigger clothes. Fannitas first video was talking about how plus size clothes in general are ugly. The point is flying over ppl heads

[@vel306]

thank you i hate that this vid dee reacted too was so poorly made..

[@cdcx9033]

It’s all just morals and ethics in business practice, ppl need to have a bit more compassion❤ as someone doing fashion you realise a lot of the fashion world don’t care about plus size people altogether, when you realise this it’s a bit harder to sweep under the rug

[@cdcx9033]

If a business has GOOD MORALS AND ETHICS. You can trust they will try cater to plus size brands ❤

[@ezevionchristian3369]

Why do they have to make plus size clothing if they didn’t make u plus size. Whose responsibility is it to make something specifically for you? If I help create a tree is it the other person in a different city responsibility to take care of it ? My point is no one is entitled to ppl helping you make your life easier or less difficult. It’s yours. ✅

[@cdcx9033]

@@ezevionchristian3369 look as a skinny fashion student it’s not hard to see how the industry is set up to see people other than skinny light skinned folks such as myself, fail. It’s about being more aware of how high end brands deliberately deny access to others who aren’t skinny. Your entitled to your opinion but the fact is that’s bad morals and ethics plan and simple. Ppl call this mentality as being ‘woke’ but it’s really just not enjoying discrimination 😞 Youthphoria foundation …

[@friedkewchi]

yeh, I lowkey don't agree coz it seemed like he was indirectly responding to Fannita's video (not shown in the video) where she said brands make plus-size clothing ugly and boring. And he made it seem like you can't both complain about brands not being inclusive and buy from brands that cater to bigger-sized people. And being plus-sized isn't necessarily the minority anymore, especially in America so of course it would be nice to have brands that make bigger clothing especially if they claim to be "inclusive". Not an expert on this topic so don't wack me too hard in the replies😅

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

The solution I see is to lose weight to fit into a better looking size.

[@friedkewchi]

@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast Not everyone can do that. There’s different circumstances that affects people’s weight. And really and truly these companies can just make larger clothes.🤷🏾‍♀️

[@parkerisles7256]

@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast You do realize that there are people with naturally big frames that aren’t overweight and some designs are trash right? Losing weight isn’t the solution to inconsistent sizing between brands or even within a company’s products.

[@artemuliashkevych7892]

@@parkerisles7256so now it’s "framephobic"? give us a break

[@BLOCFAV1]

@@friedkewchi but is that majority or a minority , so exactly .. u can’t always get your way it’s LIFE . Grow up 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@eddietookes8508]

Love the Itachi hoodie!

[@shewillprevail9744]

i don’t even know what’s going on 😭 but i’m invested

[@Melonsweetarts]

The thing is this is taken out of context. Fanita said that plus sized clothings are ugly and it doesn’t look good. And then Leo took what she said out of context wayyyyyy too much, and thought he could speak on it all because he was fat.

[@randomwatcher3049]

I love how logical Dee is bc as someone who is similar to her size, I’m aware that certain stuff isn’t for me so I stay with what is lol. People are too entitled, especially for something they may be able to change.

[@ilovethecolorpurpletoo]

I honestly just found out what "fatphobic" meant and it was only because i saw a video using the terminoligy...i am a big girl between Large and Xtra large specifically and the only problem i face is being called "big" by my family in a hearty joking way...all i can say is these days if people feel some type of way about ANYTHING they feel the need to express themselves online to feel valid and heard...many a times i go online shopping on SHEIN and they have petit or small sizes that cannot fit me, i don't go out of my way to try and have an online intervention to get everyone to notice..i honestly could care less unless i really want the outfit, i go then and try to find a duplicate in my size.

[@ilovethecolorpurpletoo]

not to say there aren't people who are genuinely "fatphobic" and bully bigger people but instead of making yourself look pitiful and "discriminated against" try and make a difference...i am not excercising or eating healthy rn but atleast i understand my situation and can TRY..don't be too delusional people.

[@AirAnimeAngel]

Thing with this right,is I think twofold. For one,sure,you can go to a certain size to fit your brand image,valid,but at the same time(if we`re talking about US),about 40% of people are obese. 38% in the UK. For business reasons it feels rather stupid to exclude almost half of the population of the country you cater to,but that just might be me. Second,I live in Eastern Europe and I used to be plus size. Think EU size 14. I STRUGGLED as all hell to find anything that fit me,forget about looking good. And about 30% of people in my country is overweight. It`s kind of easy to say `look for smaller brands` if you live in US,UK,Australia etc. cause there is still an ABUNDANCE of choice. That`s not the case for many countries. I do think this criticism is valid for big brands that are present in many countries especially. I`m not saying every store should carry like 6XL etc always,but up to size 18 absolutely.

[@ezevionchristian3369]

It giving self centered and entitled people who want the world to revolve around themselves. It’s no one’s responsibility to make u feel good in some clothes YOU picked out lol. Ppl are super sensitive and closed minded and can’t accept accountability for their actions and decisions they make for themselves

[@romeobartley1265]

Also to mention I don’t agree with the statement that people complaining about brands not making bigger sizes won’t do anything because for years people in the makeup industry were complaining about how there wasn’t colors for darker skin people until Rihanna came out with fenty beauty and changed the make up game. I don’t think it’s impossible for it to happen it’s just people need to talk about it for it to happen. It would be really strange to tell someone you can’t use this brand because you’re too dark you need to use this one.

[@ImJerkBoii]

People don't think of it in that context because the underlying attitude is "just lose weight." People pack patience for things they look at in an unfavorable lighting.

[@parkerisles7256]

I kinda agree that brands that don’t provide sizing beyond a size 10/12 to be kinda sketchy, just like cosmetic companies that only have 3 foundation colors for darkskin women but 15 different shades of alabaster. Also, saying that “brands have a right to choose who buys/wears their clothes” is reminiscent of racist, pro eating disorder designers. There’s literally horror stories about companies with this mentality: Dollskill and Brandy Melville.

[@michealhyperion3023]

prime victim mentality rght here

[@Peanutbutterloverg]

@@bigsiah.bro can’t even spell tryna and they tryna check someone

[@bad.girl.bianca]

yea but you can change your weight you can’t change your color

[@alyssa5255]

Let’s not put weight and race on the same level 👎🏽 You can loose or gain weight, however, you can’t change your race so let’s leave race out of it …

[@Stylzisahippie]

Idk I just feel like every time “fat” topics get put in play on the internet, skinnier people always feel the need to be so fake outraged by the opinion of fat people. Like y’all get so mad and offended so quickly about fat people being mad and offended. It doesn’t even make sense.

[@babygirl4949]

It’s giving “well then lose weight then if you’re so mad”. I think that’s what it all stems down to.

[@m.a.2658]

Literally! That’s what I’m saying. It’s like people are complaining about people…complaining. Like your point is already hypocritical and invalid. Please pipe down.

[@mirza2975]

it's a fact and it can be observed in this very comment section.

[@pimpcesstee_4108]

@@babygirl4949its more like then find a company that provides what you need, im tall i cant just go into old navy, i go online and find clothes for my height i think there should be more clothes for everyone, but brands dont have have too. i dont bitch a old navy because they dont have my size i just go somewhere else

[@monkeystar81]

Because fat people have the option to lose the weight but instead a lot of them want the world to bend to their needs when most of them wont even live past 35, the world does not gaf about your self imposed problems and struggles either lose weight or stfu and keep it pushing

[@borickye]

Leo said nothing wrong

[@juguitodenaranja]

Can someone make a Dee compilation on good advice you always give because SPEAK ON IT !!

[@itsalibra]

hella brands only sale XS-L and it’s like damn cause ima XL i can’t get the item😭 XL items be ugly asf and they alter them (ex. mini skirt turn knee length in XL)

[@ezevionchristian3369]

I’m sure there are other brands that make things pretty and beautiful but it just may cost more sadly

[@babygirl4949]

lol right we aren’t talking about not going to 6x we are talking about not going up to XL a lot of the times.

[@MC21114]

Love that hoodie Itachi is goated

[@getoffmygrass4857]

This whole safe space ish is just stupid. If im not feeling what a person is saying, i just dont watch their channel. Its really not that hard lol

[@AGS_Loco]

“ y’all go support”😭☠️

[@evolutia1]

As someone who worked in a clothing department store, I've seen mostly average sized women (not obese) take issue with a lot of the clothing sizes not fitting right. The model standard size 0 does not translate into the general market very well. I think people can complain about that. It also reminds me of make up brands and them not having broad shade ranges for those with deep complexations. I feel like that is a problem people can raise an issue or concern with. Companies can then decide what they want to do. At the end of the day though, even Amberlynn Ried can find clothing that fits her in a variety of sizes & styles. So if you are bigger than she is, I don't think clothing is your biggest problem. But women's clothing sizes are so nonsensical, that even average women can get frustrated sometimes.

[@FuzzyBSMcgee]

16:42 THANK YOU Dee for pointing out the semantics bullshit people try! It truly irks me when people try to downplay the point you made by diverting focus to how they disagree with how you phrased it. Because if they’re trying to tell me how I could have approached or worded my point, then they clearly understood the fucking point when I said it the first time!! 🤷🏾‍♂️🖕🏾

[@Joselopez-cd4id]

I’m a bit overweight but I don’t take time out of my day to complain about how company’s don’t make sizes for my eating habits. Like if something don’t look nice on me then move on

[@Shadow2pointO]

The point of high fashion is to be exclusive and very hard to be included in that circle. If you don’t like that then go support inclusive companies! High fashion is very harsh and very strict on their policies. They love to exclude! Think of the popular girl groups! You won’t fit in unless you’re a popular girl.

[@crowing3886]

I'm lost, almost every business has a niche or a subset of people they cater too. What's the problem? I don't see people going into lane Bryant complaining about them not catering to skinny people... Sounds like fake outrage to me 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@BLOCFAV1]

Facts just like stores can service who they want 🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@zontzooit2415]

Ok but now I’m sitting here thinking about this when it comes to disabled people, people with differing skin tones, ect. We have always ciritsized companies and asked to make things more inclusive/assessable for ppl but I’m wondering where the line would be drawn i personally don’t know the answer

[@EpicHelios83]

I'm a bigger dude, but still agree that brands are not required to cater to us larger individuals. However, I think it's kinda stupid that they don't make larger sizes, seeing how such a big percentage of Americans are overweight. It's a much larger demographic than Dee realizes. They are basically throwing money away lol. Yeah, I understand they would have to spend a little more because they are using more fabric and materials, but they would be making back a lot more in profits selling those larger sizes. But they can do whatever they want. It's a little frustrating that I can only really shop online and with very limited options, but unfortunately, that's the consequence of being bigger. HOWEVER...some of what he said was a little ignorant, seeing as he was once overweight himself. It's good he acknowledged that in the follow-up video he put out afterward. To sum it up, as a big guy, don't cater to us but at least have a little bit of empathy for our situation.

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

There are many body types. They can't cater to everybody. What about very tall people? Short people? Skinny people? Etc. The solution I see is to lose weight if you don't want to do that find something that works for you.

[@artemuliashkevych7892]

⁠​⁠@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEastright? if you’re fat, you can change it. You truly can. But i’m tall af, i can’t do NOTHING. I will just shut up and keep searchin’ for my size

[@EpicHelios83]

@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast I pretty much said that. But they do make Big and Tall sizes, but like I said those options are very limited and it's weird because almost 70% of Americans are overweight. 41% of those are Obese. With such a huge percentage like that, you would think larger sizes would be more common. But like I said, I don't fault them, they're just missing out on easy money. Also, when it comes down to "just loose weight, if it was that easy, we wouldn't have such high numbers of overweight people in this country. "Just loose weight" is easier said than done for a lot of people.

[@yogirlrebbeca1096]

@@artemuliashkevych7892Some brands make clothes to only fit people who are shorter or have a smaller frame when sometimes you might not be plus size I don’t think brands have to cater to plus size people but they should at least cater to different body types

[@antgal9467]

Fatphobic is the dumbest sh*t ever. Im fat and i shouldnt be. Be phobic to me and tell me the truth (like children). That's what motivates me in that gym. 😂😂😂

[@sonderson6363]

So have a group of people following you around and calling you that fat and disgusting 🤷🏾‍♀️. To think people should be picked on due to their weight is weird. Not everybody is eating their life away like you😂😂.

[@antgal9467]

@@sonderson6363 I didn't say you have to pick on people but we don't have to lie either to save people's feelings either. And I'm thick skinned, my friends been getting them jokes in since I gained all this weight during covid. Also motivated me to get back in the gym too. Currently 30 down.... 100 to go. Lol

[@jgray3804]

The fact is that brands have different business models that target different segments of customers. With fashion relying on word-of-mouth marketing and having low margins, it's common to narrow who you market to simply due to economic realities. Target is one of the only brands (off the top of my head) that has a relatively wide base and fashion is a value add for its business rather than its main revenue driver. There are a ton of practical reasons why brands make the decisions that they make just as I believe that a brand that catered exclusively to size X and up would be a huge success. But to cater to all of the body types of their variables would require greater capabilities which means more capital etc. because you're now accounting for edge cases/unknowns instead of relatively known body types. As this guy said in the video, being a certain height is an edge case and so there aren't as many readily available options for tall people due to the economic realities.

[@bre7543]

thank you Dee for actually speaking facts

[@bunnyrabi]

Its a stupid thing to complain about. However i realize the only time i hear these type of uncommon complaints are online. Now im a guy though, and my immediate family are normal sized individuals. However i do have aunts and cousins who are very overweight, but they usually find clothing to wear. Lot of it is even very good looking. So i think these people complaining online just got nothing better to do than be keyboard warriors for the stupidest of things. They should complain more about how some people in certain places dont even have options to get even decent clothing. Bring attention to real world issues

[@JaceReed-v7r]

and also I find it funny anytime something occurs wether it be on the level of fatphobic,transphobic, etc. people use that exact phrase that I just said previously was overused, it’s like okay we get it everybody has a different opinion but once again there is a BIG difference between having an actual opinion versus you just being a piece of shit person or being transphobic,fatphobic, or colorist and trying to overlap or hide that just by simply saying ‘everybody has a different opinion and we should get over it’ it’s childish and it’s very lazy bc if your simply homophobic then just admit that, if your transphobic then just admit that, the constant overlapping and trying to hide something is getting tiring.

[@dyshaun08]

We are living in the Upside Down 😂 I hate it here … These people need therapy, not social media … Dee please Never change ❤

[@sassydollz3]

I think the thing that you’re missing is plus size clothing can look the same as smaller size clothing as far as the cuteness, and the fact that brands are saying that they’re size inclusive and that’s also not true. These brands go to an extra extra large, which is in straight size meaning a size body that doesn’t include curves There is also women who wear a size 2X bottoms, and wear a size medium top, because they are curvy. That’s the point you’re missing

[@blueberry32898]

You get it.

[@dre27321]

why does that first sentence matter? go to brands that offer cute clothing in your size. Also, do you really expect brands who don't SPECIFICALLY cater to a certain build to spend extra money to make people outside of their target demographic happy(a minority of their customer base)? that makes zero sense to do as a business UNLESS theyre doing what you said in your second sentence and are trying to appear as inclusive, that's the only reason to get mad at it.

[@mr.croissant3537]

But the point yall are missing that he made is "Why be mad about something that's not gonna change if it's only gonna make you mad". It comes across as harsh I get that, but what he said is correct whether you like it or not. Being mad at brands for not making certain sizes or certain styles for said sizes is not gonna do anything but fuck you up mentally. That's why we gotta be the change we want to see

[@bunnyrabi]

I think she's not missing that point. I think she's just like, that's a stupid thing to want to get angry about lol. Most rational people will get different pieces of clothing at different stores. For me, since I'm a small petite guy but with big ass and thick thighs, I usually can not get a top and a bottom from the same brand unless it's stretchable clothing. So yea, I never even had the thought to sit and complain. I just move on to find a store with things that fit, and I always can because there are SOOO many options. I feel dee is like , you must not be that busy if you are upset that a brand doesn't have your size

[@slurpee4203]

then shop at Lane Bryant

[@whywhowhatwhere]

I think fat people can be upset that they dont have many aesthetic options in the sense that many brands will make a standard size dress in plain fabric but make the plus size version in some hideous floral/animal print. But really they should put that energy into supporting the brands which do make quality clothes for bigger people.

[@IamSammich]

It goes back to people being way too concerned about people who don’t want them around.

[@babygirl4949]

There’s way more brands who exclude fat people than brands who make clothes for only big people. I would agree that it’s best to just support who makes clothes for you but if there aren’t that many that do or they reduce the quality and just make rags for bigger people then I can understand why people would be upset. I don’t get why people get so mad about something that doesn’t affect them. It makes sense that fat people are mad bc it affects them. It doesn’t affect me so I rather just listen to their experiences and how they feel and be empathetic instead of getting mad that they are mad lol. I yhink people get mad because they just feel like “well lose weight if you’re so mad” and I could understand that if we were just talking about morbidly obese ppl but we aren’t. I know ppl who wear XL and they have a hard time finding clothes that fit them and look good.

[@cybercerulean5128]

i feel like ive changed realities coz its like why r ppl so pressed about the actual reality that not everything is catered for everyone?? its crazy

[@jayz9762]

Everybody a cry baby now "inclusivity this inclusivity that" … Let’s use Victorias secrets for example .. them including everybody and anybody literally was there downfall … now everybody craving the skinny flawless angel model aesthetic back 🙄🙄 humans so annoying Fashion is literally based on looks now we lying that fat is beautiful when it literally isn’t

[@ezevionchristian3369]

Being overweight to the point of health problems should be scary but nooo it’s body positivity 🙄 like I can be average weight and have no problems with my weight but if my doctor is like yeah if u keep getting bigger u may get xyz best believe im changing ish quickly

[@parkerisles7256]

No, their downfall was making overpriced, shitty underwear/bras with inconsistent sizing. The last purchase I made that turned me off from the brand is when they sent me a strapless, DD+ sized bra with 50% padding in the cup.

[@user-dx1fb8lc6h]

YOU. ARE. DUMB. LOL! VS’s attempt to be inclusive happened after consumers fell out of love with them. They didn’t want any non-conventional models walking for them. No fat, no trans, or no old models. All these compounded with the fact that VS’s product has shit quality and there are tons of options now for lingeries. The final nail to coffin was them refusing to hire trans models for their annual shows and that brought about massive controversy for them. On the other hand brands like Fenty (Rihanna) were hiring really diverse casts for her shows and campaigns. By the time VS tried to backtrack and get on the good graces of public again it was too late lol! Idk why you think that them being inclusive was the cause of their downfall when this is clearly documented online 🤣🤣😭

[@babygirl4949]

I would say Victoria’s Secret’s terrible quality and acting like they are inclusive but not carrying sizes beyond triple D in stores was their downfall. They were closing stores left and right and THEN did some weird campaign claiming inclusivity with bigger ppl in the ad but without the glamour of the original Victoria secret brand and still didn’t carry bigger sizes. I’m 138 pounds but wear G and sometime H cup. I’m nobodys overweight but I’m top heavy. I stopped shopping at Victoria secret in high school lol. You can’t say you’re inclusive but don’t carry bigger sizes cmon now.

[@mirza2975]

nobody is craving bodies like old school runway besides people with eating disorders and body dysmorphia

[@dariannurse3950]

This seems like everyone is mad at what they think he is implying and not what he is saying, because I could be ignorant about what he said, but I didn't think he was coming from a malicious place

[@angelwithinme]

love the hoodie

[@tayshardae]

i feel like fannita's point was completely missed and videos were missing. she said brands that do include plus sized clothes but theyre completely different in quality and style compared to other sizes are the problem. not the actual concept that every HAS to include bigger sizes

[@_brunoduarte_06]

I just knew Dee would get it, like wtf is the problem just go buy stuff from another brand! If its not for u its not for you, they were so quick to make him the villain and call him fatphobic just because they were mad.

[@gavyncarter9461]

Damn 47 seconds ago. Thank you algorithm

[@diorshawty767]

i’m overweight and this topic is so ridiculous 😂 leo was completely right, what is the problem? you can’t call everybody fatphobic bc someone says some real shit that manages to hurt your feelings. he said nothing crazy to fat people imo. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@parisgreen6737]

My problem here is it’s not just they don’t carry plus size women’s sizes. It’s that brands like Brandy Melville which are targeted at kids and younger people only carry clothes for xs/s girls. And anyone who doesn’t fit them is treated like they are fat even tho they are a medium or large and aren’t actually over weight. Low key/ HIGHKEY worsening and promoting eating disorders to young women who aren’t fully developed and going through puberty.

[@confusedgirl6434]

if a brand says they make clothes for PEOPLE then it should be for everyone regardless of size gender or disability, if they say they are making clothes for MEN then the clothes should be for men regardless of size, if they say they are making clothes for skinny people then it should be for skinny people, MY problem is that brands advertise their lines as SIZE INCLUSIVE, or made for EVERYONE and their biggest size is a LARGE, or they make clothes for fat people but then they are ugliest things you will ever see, that is false advertising and that is what started this whole argument on TikTok

[@charondarice7846]

Omg, we are soo alike lmaoo...your responses mirror mine while watching this. I felt like I was watching myself speak. Are you a leo? lol

[@lucasorlando99]

Dee what they are saying is that most stores don’t carry plus size clothing and the stores that do the clothes are god awful. All plus size people want is just cute clothes in their size and that’s why a lot of plus size people get stuff from fashion nova or other fast fashion brands because most brands exclude plus size people

[@BLOCFAV1]

They want the to world to CATER TO THEM , while they also CATER TO DEM SELVES 🍽️ 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@zella_2454]

The reality of the situation is that these brands to not give a f about people of “abnormal” sizes. The idea behind this is that every influencer has “influence” over their audience. And dog whistles like this will promote brands to limit plus size clothing even more. Also, “abnormal” size can vary widely and can be something as unchangeable as your height, cup size, bone density, and other genetical factors that people literally cannot change. Sure, companies do have the right to exclude these people if they wanted to, but i think it would be much more productive if we asked WHY these brands are doing it in the first place. And conveniently you will inevitably arrive to the problem of money.

[@VideoInteresante2024]

I love Dee ❤😂

[@femininewaters444]

One factor is it could be a lot for a company to keep up with everything it could be easy for a company to only sale one size

[@Zadaplug]

You can say something in the nicest way possible and people will still get offended 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@torileslie530]

I love your itachi sweater Dee! Ngl im going to look for it cuz it’s cute

[@Bankrupt1111]

The guy makes very solid points and def has own expirience but "focus on brands that make clothes for you" be trassh asf and ugly as hell, could see why people would want nicer clothing from good clothing brands to make something they can fit, but at the same time these fashion brands be the most naricisitic and ruthless to fit their own vision lol so it almost crazy to convince them to change

[@reianahmae7650]

This how I feel about me being mid size with huge boobs. Bikini don’t fit bras are ugly. I hate bikinis that look like bras that they make for girls with bigger boos like I don’t care about support in a bikini I just want a bikini

[@amarisayshey5072]

I’m gonna be honest, I’m a bigger person and I have been in plus size most of my life and I know that every brand is not going to work for me. All this fat phobia stuff is not it, because at the end of the day, you want people to accommodate you on every single aspect and that’s literally not possible. I am somebody that is close to 300 pounds but I know that not all clothes are not going to fit me simply put. I’m on my Fitness journey and all and that’s great, but I don’t expect people to accommodate my size when I know my size is already over the average. Honestly, you can apply that logic to being taller or shorter as well. I feel like sometimes people don’t take into account that there are other body types out there that can’t wear stuff either. It’s not just bigger people that are struggling. He maybe could’ve had better wording, but I understood what he was saying completely and I agree.

[@xxarianahiltonxx5116]

This is how I feel as a skinny busty girl. The bigger the bras, the uglier they are. No more cute stuff if you have a large chest. It's like finding a needle in a haystack. And when i finally find cute ones, it costs me $100. 😢😢😢

[@alwaysannoyedforever518]

I’m a size US I and I get you. Go to bare necessities. They have some really cute bras and a lot of them go on sale frequently.

[@Room2703Reacts]

12:59 Deeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... 😂😂😂 you absolutely kill me 😂🤣

[@Sabs_222]

The fact that he apologized is wild. He said nothing that warranted an apology.

[@Sabs_222]

So essentially, the people who were offended want to force these clothing brands to take their money when they can spend their money on brands that actually accommodate them? That's wild, but go off. 😅

[@cameronleerodriguez]

I think you should watch Trisha’s take on the issue, I think she explained it pretty well. It’s mostly about how when brands do make plus sizes or whatever they make a certain type of look, it always these obscure patterns, florals, etc. That’s the main issue the fact they can’t replicate the same design on a larger scale, they are always trying to push a certain look and make bigger people look like a table cloth

[@shukri6654]

love the hoodie 🔥

[@SasXTime]

I will say most clothing brands shuld change their missions statement~~

[@jailyn5085]

I don’t really see why everyone is upset. I didn’t see anything fatphobic about it. When I was in Paris, they had xxs and xxxs…like they don’t have those in the US. But underweight people don’t get triggered over it. Most brands don’t cater to the extremes. So you have to find brands that do. It’s really not that deep.

[@PhemeloReviews]

Love the Jersey 🔥❤

[@jaymadethebeat]

This shit is all that girl that won that case vs McDonalds' fault!

[@elijahcolclough6741]

People are fuckin children nowadays 😮‍💨

[@ayeshasboby]

period dee go off queen! 😛😛

[@YesserSirMrSir]

Man stop the madness. You can get mad all you want but no brand or business should have to cater to you just cause you’re big. Go to the places that you know has things that fit your size instead of thinking the world revolves around you. You’re not owed things for being fat lol

[@breasiablacknall5064]

the orignsl video was made by fannita and she was talking about how some brands claim to have those sizes but dont and he took that as her hateing on brands that dont market plus sizes not having her size

[@artemuliashkevych7892]

McDonalds should have their own clothing line. Their own "inclusive" fashion catalogue

[@Shadow2pointO]

See now that’s fat phobic.😂

[@artemuliashkevych7892]

@@Shadow2pointO i’ll upload my apology video on tiktok tomorrow

[@Shadow2pointO]

@@artemuliashkevych7892 Please do! I’ll temporarily subscribe to just watch it!

[@romeobartley1265]

Genuine question how do you even order from a brand that doesn’t have your size😂?

[@steev7343]

I’ve only seen the one guy on Kelon’s lives. I see Fanitta everywhere

[@looleas]

She annoying

[@steev7343]

@@looleas 😂 yeah she can be too much

[@shaavanii]

The guy in the cap was annoying me… seem like he was pandering

[@jinderellaa7218]

I feel like telling someone to lose weight just so they can fit clothes better is wild to me. Would you gain weight if that meant you would be able to fit clothes better? 9/10 you wouldn't because it's stupid. People shouldn't have to gain or lose weight in order to shop for clothes. Shopping shouldn't be difficult to do. Saying plus sized people don't fit the image of your brand and that's why you don't make clothes for people who are plus sized is like makeup brands saying they don't make shades for darker skin tones because dark skin don't fit the image of their brand. It sounds dumb and it is dumb. Clothes should be for everyone, it's not about being sensitive. People who are able to find their size with no issue at all shouldn't even be apart of this conversation because it doesn't involve you. There's nothing wrong with plus sized people wanting to feel included because it's not difficult to include EVERYONE. And I think one of the main problems within this topic is brands saying they are "size inclusive" when they only stop at a XL or a XXL which are not PLUS SIZED. Why are you saying you include "everyone" when your clothes only stop at a certain size? make it make sense

[@mintyliciousss]

4:41 its too small for my boob area LOL

[@pimpcesstee_4108]

I agreed if i cant find clothes for my height i go find a place tht do i dont go complaining about it n if i would i would to tht store if they dont fix it tf can i do about it?

[@Bendueee]

I don’t think the KZbinr you watch really did his research. This topic did not start because people are upset about finding their size, they are upset because brands that “cater” to them make such ugly plus sized fashion. Honestly, I wouldn’t even say upset, more like pointing out that companies like Torrid and Lane Bryant don’t make cute clothes. It’s normally frumpy looking. They also talk about how brands who have plus sizes also make frumpy clothes for those who are plus size and it doesn’t match the brands straight size options. Another thing is that brands who offer plus sizes will typically limit it to online .

[@DreBeats_]

sounds like a bunch of of crackheads arguing about the difference between crack and cocaine

[@TheDjmoney99]

Itachi hoodie is HARDDDDDDD

[@meanstoanever]

Im with Leo💯

[@nikitea123]

I think ppl were mad because The brand didn't want people who "looked a certain way" to wear their shit.. i saw poc compare it to --- if brands didn't want poc to wear their shit --- I don't think it was about they werent able to mske clothes it was them picking and choosing who is allowed to wear their shit.. like those designers back in the day who only made size 0... Because they only want size 0 wearing it & repping them.. im not a big gal but i dont like brands saying "i don't make clothes for "xyz appearing" people".. idk dude.. its weird.. i think its like really shallow.. now i dont think thst 700,lb life ALR girls think theyre gonna fit this stuff but like the brands should really go up to a size 12 - 14 or whatever

[@MikeMulahMusic]

😂am I tripping or the guy was just making stuff up? Like saying he was sticking up for million dollar companies, he literally just said to get clothes that fit you and you like.

[@samherrien5921]

is that an itachi hoodie? wheere you get that from? I want one.

[@davesenatus5566]

I need inclusivity in men’s clothes 😭😭. Not gonna complain though.

[@jeffhardy4980]

Watching skinny people get offended on fat people's behalf is a different kinda second hand embarrassment - we don't care that much WHY DO YOU😭