Tim Cliss Nonduality Meeting 22 September 2022

[@misschris662]

There’s this Scottish guy with this great voice. I could listen to him forever ❤😂

[@CL-he4jz]

The thing that got " me" in that Laing/ Headless thing was the one looking at " things" in their context. then all around the edges, comparing size, shape, blah. Then all of a sudden they were looming out at me, bright holograms, especially trees. and infused with "me"- ness (as in I arose, that arose, all of it real AND unreal). other things too. I guess theyr all experiences tho...

[@ccr7712]

I agree, these people are mixing up the ME sense, which is the awareness/consciousness/knowing with the oneness/ unknowing, and from that you get something like I AM everything, I am God. It may sound very similar, especially if you don’t understand this message very good, that’s why many people listen to this message and the awareness/consciousness teachings and think it’s the same think.

[@FirstPersonHood]

Douglas Harding simply points out we talk as if we see ourselves like everyone, completely ignoring the individual outlook in favor of the mirror. Whatever any nonduality facilitator speaks on is never that simple and direct!

[@iangoss7841]

"long overdue a rest"...apparently so in my case. Sleep master😴😻🙃

[@tomsmith2361]

👍😊

[@FirstPersonHood]

I love how all the friends of Tony Parsons claim Douglas Harding is confusing. Tony met Douglas and speaks on "seeing" in his books and talks. Stop the game!

[@ccr7712]

I stopped listening to Rupert when I heard him say in one of his KZbin videos something like “ There is no free will, but you shut come to a non duality meeting rather then go to the pub down the street “ 😂😂😂, no free will so how could I choose 🤷

[@FirstPersonHood]

To base your opinion on Spira from one statement is irresponsible.

[@ccr7712]

@@FirstPersonHood it’s not just that, what’s Rupert teaching and what’s Tim saying is pretty much the opposite, Tim is just being nice guy and won’t say it strait up like that, if you been listening to Rupert and focusing on your awareness/ knowing you been going the other direction, you just strengthening the ME sense.

[@FirstPersonHood]

I understand your concerns. Spira has from his beginning talks said language can't capture reality. Tske a look at his first videos on KZbin. He makes what could be called a few HEADLESS videos. Once the speaker points to the fact of no self it is OVER. All the rest is intellectual entertainment. Off with your head Sir!

[@CL-he4jz]

that was Richard Laing in the middle between Tony and Tim Freke

[@ccr7712]

@@FirstPersonHood I looked at those videos, and yes the headless method has lots of similarities to this, Rupert’s videos as well, but the problem is that they are staying like the awareness/ the knowing/the observer in all that, which is the ME/ the separation. For me it’s mixing two opposite thinks together.

[@nicht-etwas61]

❤️❤️

[@FirstPersonHood]

Richard Lang and Douglas Harding uses their finger to point the apparent person to see the obvious that is obscured by the activity of the APPARENT SELF. Seeing is not a concept, NONDUALITY/SINGULARITY/ GLORY!

[@FirstPersonHood]

Endless laughter at talk of nonduality while ignoring the MOST SIMPLE DIRECT POINTER. ANY head must by its very nature must be seen at a distance.