Too much of a good thing is bad.

[@maryannemorrison2699]

I think Tim is a real horse trainer. Not just a showman as many of the clinicians are. They may be a good talker and have a marketing team. But you will learn more from this man.

[@lauramoy9940]

I heartily agree with this assessment!!!

[@Goofygoose494]

Absolutely. This shows the years and years of experience as a rider and competent horseman.

[@Goofygoose494]

Your video are so realistic of the true issues riders face with there horse's.👍 Always something to learn every horse has its own attitude. The point about to much join up is great. Help me sort a brat of a former service stallion that is now a riding pony. THANK YOU🙏

[@sarahturner8625]

Agree! I get suggestions of other trainers because I follow Tim, but they either seem to be overly dramatic about how they are gonna have to “break a dangerous horse” OR how they are completely “gentle training” and kissing and loving all over the horse, when they actually are likely causing issues like this horse has to overcome.

[@elisabethbachem2451]

. The mouthiness and head pushing of my friendly pony has been a problem for me and Ive been a bit helpless to understand it in the past. When I reacted harshly with the leadrope to get her out of my space i was making her headshy. So this video really gave the answer to my problems,. Did a lot more demanding groundwork work with her yesterday and consistently backed her up quietly but firmly and she has became much more compliant . I have watched many of your videos which I discovered recently and find them very helpful.

[@AM-yt6oz]

First time seeing your videos. Like the calm teaching. Look forward to watching all of your videos.

[@Sandra-cm1du]

Tim Anderson is a blessing to the horse community. He knows what he is talking about and he "knows" horses. We need more Tim Anderson(s) in the horse industry. I love his channel.

[@SusanneMistric]

I’m a dressage rider who gets a ton of practical insight from your videos. I am learning a lot about solving problems (and the importance of addressing issues I’ve been tolerating… for safety’s sake and to prevent escalation). I’d love to see you address introducing a horse to a small herd of cattle for the first time. (Circles get boring sometimes…😊)

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

I just did that video a few days ago.

[@deanbalouris330]

As a dog handler, it’s fascinating to me to see the similarities and differences between dominant dogs and dominant horses. The only difference I really see is that the very dominant dog will not threaten you at all. When you piss them off, they will straight come after you without notice. These guys show more advanced body language that’s easier to read and predict.

[@blackdandelion5549]

This horse was out to show he is in charge and do what he wants to do and if that means biting you or pushing you to the ground then he would do it. However, the ones that Tim won't take and he has every right to not want to put in the time and the issues around safety and the safety of his staff and the other horses. . . . . .They don't give warnings like this one who wants to be left alone to do his own thing, they will truly come at you meaning to stomp you into the ground and take your life if they see a time they feel/interpret that you are weaker than they are. I was called out to look at one for a behavioral analysis and that mare wouldn't let me halter her because she would lift a front foot or rear up to stomp me and would charge me just to get her from pasture so we got her in a smaller pen by taking her BFF horse into the smaller pen and she came along as well and then we removed the other horse. The horse who was a bit over 17h (big horse) got that look in her eye that my friend and I have seen before when a horse is ready to attack and she tried to kill her owner and was stomping this 70+ year old lady into the ground with both front feet, kneeling on her, and basically we didn't know if the woman would live. It felt like nothing we did could get the horse off of the woman and I mean no whip, no lead rope being tossed/flung at it, no shooing, no trying to run it off, and when it comes to human life you don't really hold back the way you do when training. All that woman had to do was turn her back for that horse to attack her. The ones who will kill you and mean to do real harm do not give strong visual warnings and you notice very subtle things like they way they get a look in their eye, they stop moving, the way they are looking at you, even when they are 30 feet away. . . . . . .they mean to do fatal harm. This horse means to not work and stay at home on the sofa and if you try to make him work he yells at you believing you will give up and go away. The ones who do real harm don't yell and throw tantrums.

[@GreyfyreShelties]

As a child I read books, then as an adult I studied Clark Bradley, Bob Loomis and Tommy Mannion. Ended with Clinton. Now at 69 I'm way too stiff and such poor balance so no more horses. I had to get on and state how AWESOME your videos are. The simple basics of incorrectly handling a horse you cover so brilliantly. I sit at my computer and say, "Yep, well spoken.." People send their problem horses to a trainer but learn nothing themselves. You have made that connection for them. Thank you and keep up the videos for the problem enabling owners. :)

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Thank you for taking the time to make such a kind comment.

[@PONYHEAVEN]

Educating horses is labour intensive, to say the least. Bless you for doing what is necessary.

[@blackdandelion5549]

I am currently in the round pen with a mare I took on as a rescue who was feral and unhandled and we have just been going through a bit of this when outside the ring and places we know, but I ain't come close to getting on if I don't have her mind right everywhere on the ground first. Groundwork is all prep work for the saddle. In the round pen I see the levels of defiance and willfulness. The head shaking at first and the bucks/crow hops thrown in there, invading space and not moving out when asked, then it went to a more subtle "screw you" not everyone notices where he has the high head and he is not relaxed, but that head is looking outside of the ring and not looking at the human who is moving the feet. "That head doesn't come off the wall much" as an old man who trained me to round pen put it. Watching for the times the head/eye is looking at Tim and/or the ear turns to listen to what Tim is doing/asking of him. I was also taught if a horse is doing any kind of coming into your circle or join up like that . . . . .you send the right back out to think about how they are allowed to approach you as soon as they start invading your space or come in like they own it or come in uninvited. Eventually they try again and when they learn to be good horse citizens is when they can be near me, but no biting, kicking, pushing me over, etc. when I say you can be around me.

[@mingram008]

Sir, you have thrown some GOLD out to us today! Big shiny nuggets of the stuff! We greatly appreciate the work you put into your videos and we are looking forward!!!

[@redhorse8937]

Your three rules are great. I have one cardinal rule besides those, and probably the first rule, when I'm working a horse: I work alone with the horse. It's not a group activity, don't cluck, talk or try to help with cues or commands. The horse has to listen to me, not worry about what the other person might be doing, and in the process, hurt me.

[@lorrainewilson4002]

I had the luxury of access to regulat horse riding as a youngster ..i never realised just how little i knew .. i find your methods so very good and so informative ., and passing them along to my friends daughter who has riden for years & has just bought her first pony .. In fact ive transferred a few of your methods and approaches with a wonderfull but rather stubborn large dog thats clearly had far to much controle & very little respect .. & we are making great headway ... im now the ' leader' .. And hes going to settle down into a lovely big boy & a joy to be around ..

[@pattirockgarden4423]

Really good video! Hard lessons for him, but necessary. It's easy to make these mistakes, but as you point out, can be very dangerous. By the end of he fideo, this boy is starting to get a new attitude!

[@kellylee5235]

The best horseman I have ever had the privilege to watch Thank you.

[@juliehmidmo]

I have had 2 geldings in my life who started out with everything in the mouth and constantly trying to get their mouth on me. While not funny ( i know) it did make me laugh watching you and seeing what it must have looked like when I had to work past this with my boys. I think he will turn out to be a real nice horse and both my boys turned out to be all I was wanting and more. There is always hope. I am glad his owner sent him to you. I agree that left to go on as he was it would have been a disaster in the end.

[@MarkandSueSiemonsma]

Wow! Your videos are really hitting home lately! I had a similar start on a horse 7 years ago. Sadly, I'm still working on holes in his training 7 years later but he has come a long way since then. Your videos have really helped me with him. He had a 6 month winter break and I did some of the things you are doing here to test his attitude before I ride him. He did surprisingly well with the long lining or ground driving. I put stuff on the ground. I saddled him on line. If I had boat bumpers, I think they would be a problem for him. I might have to try that. I'm so glad his owner brought him to you so they are not still fixing problems in 7 years like me! Stay safe!

[@justmeonly986]

I love these videos even though I know almost nothing about horses except that they're beautiful.

[@wileyestofshepherdes]

THIS made me so grateful for my horses and whatever trainer started them. Patience of Job to get this out of one, once it has started.

[@rhondapearson1694]

Oh thank you 🙏 This is the perfect video for me to learn from. My OTTB gets too close and nippy. Even a couple small bites in the pad couple years.

[@chemtoday]

Omgosh, great video!!! Similar to my 3 yo.. can be aso frustrating and sometimes scary.. I'm not a horse trainer but my horse is forcing me to up my game.. I found using a flag to back them off helps a lot.. repeatedly and sometimes signicantly stern is required. Looking for relaxation. It feels like a real circus sometimes. GREAT JOB and Thank You!!

[@pjk1714]

He is definitely a package deal but you just made a little progress. I'm assuming young, field grazer most of the week. They make their own rules with learning where they rank among other horses. I'm just glad you have him now. I can see a lot of promise there and why they cared enough to get your assistance. Watch your knees down, he is a grounder like 2 year olds before the big snip.

[@rivert3dove254]

He is more like my Grandfather who waz a true horseman. He used long reins to train as well. Thank you sir. I so enjoy your videos and watching and learning from you

[@littlebrookreader949]

This was so good, so well done. Thanks for the great video. Much appreciate!.

[@normajanderson7304]

Brody is Not a horse for a beginner. Really liked to see all the behaviors he had that you addressed. Thank you

[@jbohio7821]

I have two year old that has the same attitude. I will follow you and see how you handle this situation!!!

[@sassy6292]

This guy is quite the genuine article! Lol. Wow. Spoiled brat? Do you ever lay them down? I wonder if this teenage werewolf would benefit from such a procedure. I’ve seen it work wonders on horses that have a similar surly attitude. I was wondering why you don’t snap the line to get him out of your space and low and behold you spoke in-depth on why you DON’T do that. Interesting! You do have a point! This makes me pause and rethink my outlook on this practice. This was an intense episode. Thank you 🙏

[@Leenasims]

😅It was a stubborn rascal! What fitness you have and what patience, admirable. ❤

[@joanjohns1495]

Wonder if his gelding left something behind? He's very ballsy 😃

[@melodienaber3238]

It's nice how you control your temper with him. I think you are amazing ❤

[@mindyborsato9824]

Wow Brody is a beauty!!! Great Job!! I love your videos and the work you do!!

[@michellelannan7380]

I love watching you work.

[@lindachicette8354]

Now this starts to be similar to the temper horse of my 2yr, always complaining and challenging me, thnx, makes feel like I've dealt with it correctly

[@squeezebox7458]

Exceptional video! Thank you!

[@1ccTooTall]

You have such a good read of individual temperaments.

[@KANSASIOUX]

This channel is gold

[@MaxNafeHorsemanship]

I don't do videos in the round pen because most people don't have one. Few people even have access to one. We trained and rode horses long before we even had them. They are nice if you know how to use it, but you don't need one. That mouthy/biting problem is common to young geldings. I just worked with one that would frequently bite his owner. We had to do some mouth control. Turned out he just needed a stronger leader and he wouldn't think about putting his mouth on me.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Even though my videos can be taken as how to videos that is not my intent. My intent is for owners to be able to see how I am working their horses, see their progress, and use for reference later. There are certain things I do in a round pen but generally I like to get out of it as soon as possible. My program is what works for me which I'm sure is the same for you.

[@raehughes126]

Recently found your channel. Love it and am using some of your tips with my young in training horses. Thanks

[@forsythia33]

Interesting to see such a dominant horse.

[@diannahoda2589]

Great instruction and technique video! Thanks!!

[@joanrauseo2332]

Excellent video!

[@CTstouchhorsesdogs]

This horse has definitely been TREAT TRAINED prior to Tim

[@drawtacos3578]

My sister wants to know if you train kids, too 😂😂😂

[@Lynn-uz2ms]

I think it's better not to run rope thru stirrups as you say seems its easier this way love the videos. Lynn75 in Missouri thanks 😊😊

[@lilnh1039]

I cant believe he has been rode before

[@donnac.1609]

He is handsome horse!!

[@j.elizabeth4621]

Tim, I know this is an older video but do you consider mouthing to be licking as well? We have a gelding who was a stallion for 13 years and quite abused by his last owner. He’s had about two years to work off his trauma and he seems to look for reassurance by licking, but he is so respectful of space. He just seems to enjoy having his mouth handled.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

You have to look at the whole horse and not just one part to get an understanding of the intentions of an action.

[@carolynstewart8465]

High headed low backed then he starts to relax .😍

[@rhondapearson1694]

How big is the round pen you are working in? I have an OTTB gelding. He’s at least 15 hands and I’m only 5’. I have a 50’ round pen and not sure it’s big enough. He gets in my space too often. Mostly in a horsey playful way but not respecting that I’m not a horse. He really wants to be active and I’m trying my best but I was never taught how to do groundwork. The horse was given to me when they didn’t want to care for the number of horses they had.

[@karstelobster8203]

How do you invite a horse into your space when you need or want them to come towards you?

[@julzhepburn3688]

Please note when he bumps the rope to get him to back up that his line is Not attached to his bit only his halter! He never bumps his month....

[@vaporosoez]

He is like a bobble head. His head is everywhere without any attention to the human; walking into or tuning out.

[@EllenVollbach]

When you turned him, you don’t get his eyes he gives you his back end

[@Nutmeg142]

He reminds me so much of my TWH when he was young, though without the bucks 😂. But the mouthiness and pushiness definitely. I laugh because I thought this horse was one until he moved.

[@kajinsautumn9833]

My TWH is 23 next month and I have had him 9 yrs. He used to bite me when I first got him, (cloths/jacket) but only got skin one time and that was the last time! I learned to put my elbow up and he hit HIMSELF in the mouth. I sure wish I had found this trainer back then! It took a lot of watching videos and hours of ground work for teaching ME how to be a fair, FIRM leader! Now my Walker is a LOT more respectful of my space. We are still working on him trying to walk ahead of me when leading and I am working on ME not letting him do that. Always learning!

[@terrifrye2803]

This is a really good video. Brody needs to expand his mental capabilities. He seems immature. Do you know his age? Now I wouldn’t be surprised if you would have stated, he was another Crypt-orchid, given his behavior. Thank you for sharing Tim. ❤️

[@terrifrye2803]

I’m so glad you chose the round pen for this guy too.

[@AdventureHorseRidinginNYS]

This was a great video thank you

[@rutherose23]

Can you please explain what you mean about how his breeding predicted these behaviors? Thank you!

[@patchurch1677]

Was he a hand reared foal? Did he not have much correction from other horses?

[@VictoriaAllred]

Tim said he wouldn't consider him a dangerous horse right now, but that he could become one in a year. Me personally, I would consider that horse dangerous right now. That horse probably can't be handled by a beginner without getting bit. If the horse is dangerous to a beginner, I would call the horse dangerous just period. But like Tim, I can see where this horse is headed without intervention. Tim is probably just more patient before giving labels than I am

[@volancydogs]

I have a question. How did you know it was disrespect/dominance when he didn't want to get out of your space as opposed to just being too desensitised/oblivious to the rope's meaning? Is it because he has been taught what it means enough previously for you to tell that he knew but was ignoring/testing you?

[@blondeenotsomuch]

He is a pretty one. Is he weaponizing friendliness or is he faking ?

[@emerwatchorn6971]

Another really good video. Just asking why is it you have him in the roundpen instead of the arena online? You mentioned something but not sure if you gave the reason why the roundpen for him

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Because of his issue I wanted to be able to drive him away but not too far away.

[@maryannemorrison2699]

You are good!

[@VictoriaAllred]

Hey Tim, how long do you keep them tied to the line?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Until they get quiet.

[@silky2204]

Once my OTTB gets to the enclosed arena she is fine with me. It is just getting her there.

[@donnac.1609]

Bet he is handful in a cross tie!!

[@carlajenkins1990]

A good nickname for this horse: Smoky.

[@kate-1]

What is the age of this horse? The horse is severly built over. His body is not in a shape to move it properly, even less to move it on a circle. He is feeling pretty uncomfortable doing so. Are there other excercises that you could do instead?

[@tonyabrowning7577]

Is he lame on left hind?

[@hopebehrendt1786]

You mentioned bitting again, I'm curious, in the 80s and 90s, I learned to use a mullen mouth to transition from the snaffle to bridle and when horse started picking up and dropping the bit, they were ready to go full curb. Was this one of those unnecessary steps? Also I usually use a sweet iron bit, and which type of bit are you using most often on your finished bridle horses? For having been "started well" before you got him he's pretty disrespectful with his teeth and body position, he thinks he should be working you lol

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

I remember the mullen mouth fad. I wouldn't say there was nothing to it because that is what some horses need. It depends on the horse and how his mouth is made. Some of my bits are sweet iron and some are not. As far as what I use for my more finished horses that also depends on the horse. I try to use a bit that will help with the horse's weaknesses.

[@belindahopkins7875]

Did the owner say this horse ever bit her?

[@bettybakebake]

well i will bow to the master. but he is so scary. he acts so normal and calm and then tried to move you over and over. then he wanted to bite you over and over. he is such a horse. i could never work with him. i had an old horseman who told me a bad horse will hurt you but a good horse will kill you. you just dont expect it. like with this guy. i dont trust him. but he is doing great for you. you are something special.

[@NNLBC]

curious of his breeding, some things were so oddly familiar, some good some bad

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Bottle fed poco bueno

[@NNLBC]

@@timandersonhorsetraining family indeed ;) very clever horses. thank you for doing these videos, I learn something from each one

[@catdog8799]

Thx❤

[@epona9166]

I've been wondering about his breed, but I see he's a QH. He seems kind of sketchy, irregular, in his movement. I wondered if he was gaited or something. I think he slipped a few times, which added to that impression. He just does't seem really solid and steady on his feet. I'm sure I"m wrong, but something seems off.

[@ceceliapeterson4648]

I want that horse. Is he for sale?

[@ridgehilljillie9429]

You said his behavior is typical of his breed. What breed is that? He moves like a good buggy horse. But, I can picture him running wild and free in his best life.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

He's Poco Bueno bred. They need a job and this behavior is what happens when you don't give them one.

[@ridgehilljillie9429]

@@timandersonhorsetraining I understand.

[@dianeboross6978]

I am wondering if an animal who is given many treats with very little asked of him could adopt this type of personality? (being mouthy and violating your personal space) IOW - Could this behavior be the downside of giving a horse too many treats? If so, what is the appropriate use of horse treats?

[@evelynwaugh4053]

The horse knows by smell and vision that Tim isn't carrying treats. His nipping is an attempt to control Tim, similar to how he would move another horse in a pasture. When using treats, you are pairing them with a sound cue, like 'that's good,' 'good job' or similar, and then fading the treats. Other trainers are using the release from pressure as a reward. Trainers and owners who treat are also using relief from pressure as a reward, to increase the desired behavior. Most would not treat when a horse nudges them, and would discipline a nip. I do use treats on occasion, and have never had a nippy horse. But if a horse had that predisposition, that's not a horse you'd use treats with.

[@silky2204]

My TWH takes off and I hold on.

[@20sherilynn]

Is he a Morgan Horse?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Quarter horse

[@shadowdancer1412]

Geez, he has a lot of dangerous behaviors and a bad attitude. Looking forward to seeing how you fix these things.

[@talonhatch9342]

Good video

[@silky2204]

I do not use round pens.

[@cathwarren1090]

It's a nice horse that just needs teaching some manners, when he finally accepts who's in charge he'll be ok

[@silky2204]

The owner rode this horse? How? He is a cutie.

[@silky2204]

Aw! He came over to you. Poor thing.

[@tereseramsey1375]

Now I can understand why he has the rebellious teenager attitude. Bottle fed and more than likely allowed to get away with behavior that should have been discouraged / disciplined for.

[@silky2204]

My OTTB attacked my trainer. I saw it. 3 xs in a row. I took the horse and worked her.

[@silky2204]

Horse is a cutie.

[@barbarawitt9989]

What's his breed?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Working ranch quarter horse.

[@ingridrose1092]

Do you care if he turns INTO you or AWAY from you?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Depends on the situation. This one already is too willing to come to me so I want him to turn away.

[@eberhardkieslich2538]

If you’re worried about him coming in your space, why don’t you establish a barrier? I agree it’s dangerous. I would not have gone this far until I had his respect, and he didn’t intrude. Not standing still for saddling is also not good behavior. I think you’re taking a lot of chances. This all should be addressed before messing around with the saddle. Just my humble opinion. I’m sure you’re competent in finish training.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Whoever incorrectly started him originally should have done it like you say. Now fixing him is a totally different situation, just restarting like he was never started is not what he needs.

[@michaelbondick575]

He challenged your space for a good bit of the video from the beginning. He surely over steps into your space. Very bad habit of putting his face on you he learned that from someone else.

[@shadowdancer1412]

What causes a horse to behave like this? No training? Bad training? Being handled improperly? Or is he a typical young horse?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Spoiled!

[@shadowdancer1412]

Yeah, I sort of thought that. Nothing you can’t handle. Love your videos. ❤️

[@badgirlgoodwomen6585]

Thats it jam and bang the bit in his mouth, great way to get him to except the bit in future!

[@arlahunt4240]

This horse is really an alpha horse. He’s really stubborn.

[@lilnh1039]

Sure is pretty

[@markletteriello2115]

Pretty sure that horse is lame in the rear end . Movement from stiffle on up gets goofy. he’s hopping like a bunny even before saddle was on. White rear hoof never reaches under himself when engaged remains tucked and short as if he’s protecting it -just my observation,easy to call the game from the bleachers however maybe Tim can weigh in on this.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

No he is not lame. Big strided horse moving in a small round pen. He moves totally differently in a bigger pen.

[@susanmacatangay4209]

These horses seem uncomfortable around him. Animals know the good vs bad people. A good trainer works slowly and takes cues from the animal. This guy always says, "I want him to do what I want him to do".

[@donnac.1609]

Smart.....and lots of energy....along with zero understanding of a humans space. A bit dangerous...he might not appreciate good discipline!

[@yessabell1707]

❤️❤️❤️

[@MsKK909]

This horse must be a teenager!…… and like any teenager, he needs a strong Daddy.

[@deepcover9894]

He acts like a Morgan mare I worked with that was raised as a pet to her two year old year. He thinks he deserves better than this. Entitled.