All My Homies Hate Skrillex | A story about what happened with dubstep.

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Timbah.On.Toast

Timbah.On.Toast

Күн бұрын

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@MaisBaixo
@MaisBaixo 3 жыл бұрын
The *Dubstep Nether Zone* @ 23:55 *_Dub Pressure / Bassweight_* 1. Quest - Stand/Eden _[Deep Medi]_ 2. Vivek - Feel It _[Deep Medi]_ 3. Goth Trad - Deep Path/S.A.T.U.R.N _[Deep Medi]_ 4. Jack Sparrow - Circadian _[Tectonic]_ 5. Cyrus - Space Cadet/Junk Yard _[Tectonic]_ *_Tecky Rollers_* 1. Soundboy's Gravestone Gets Desecrated By Vandals _[Skull Disco]_ 2. Martyn - Great Lengths _[3024]_ 3. 2562 - Aerial _[Tectonic]_ 4. Dusk + Blackdown ‎- Margins Music _[Keysound]_ 5. Pinch - Underwater Dancehall _[Tectonic]_ *_2nd Wave_* 1. Silkie - City Limits Volume 1 _[Deep Medi]_ 2. Mizz Beats - My World/The Jester _[Deep Medi]_ 3. Skream ‎- Skreamizm Vol 5 _[Tempa]_ 4. Jay 5ive & Kromestar ‎- Bass 96 / Hands In The Air _[Bass 'N' Love]_ 5. Benga - Diary of an Afro Warrior _[Tempa]_ *_Vocalist-Centric_* 1. Von D ft Phephe - Show Me _[Sub Freq]_ 2. Phaeleh - Fallen Light _[Afterglo]_ 3. Kito - Kito EP _[Disfigured Dubz]_ 4. Clouds - Protecting Hands _[Deep Medi]_ 5. Emika - Double Edge _[Ninja Tune]_ *_Purple Music_* 1. Joker/2000F & J Kamata - Digidesign/You Don't Know What Love Is _[Hyperdub]_ 2. Mark Pritchard ft Om'mas Keith - Wind It Up _[Hyperdub]_ 3. Mensah - Untitled Future Funk EP _[HENCH]_ 4. Guido - Anidea _[Punch Drunk]_ 5. Joker & Ginz - Purple City _[Kapsize]_ *_Mutated Strains_* 1. 5: Five Years of Hyperdub _[Hyperdub]_ 2. Darkstar - Aidy's Girl Is A Computer _[Hyperdub]_ 3. Zomby - Liquid Dancehall/Strange Fruit _[Ramp]_ 4. James Blake - Air & Lack Thereof _[Hemlock]_ 5. Becoming Real - Fast Motion _[Ramp]_
@tommk88
@tommk88 3 жыл бұрын
The 4th one in 2nd wave is Bass 96 by Jay 5ive and kromestar
@philbegas
@philbegas 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you're the man I was about to ask
@cyanada
@cyanada 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this!
@dubraja6469
@dubraja6469 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck Skrillex Deep Medi for life.
@VivaTunita
@VivaTunita 3 жыл бұрын
@@tommk88 what a tune
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
"DJing is like sex". Yep, sounds about right. I haven't played a live set in 4 years.
@WHADDDD
@WHADDDD 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao you and me both brother
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
@All Things Dub You can try to; depends on what crowd you get on the night. And at some point you can start experimenting, at some point you just stick to the basics to make it work somehow. Just like sex.
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
@All Things Dub Of course, you are more free to express yourself with a familiar crowd.
@lexifey1300
@lexifey1300 3 жыл бұрын
Coming off the decks, I usually will head straight outside for a cigarette. I usually end up telling at least one person after every set - yes follow me let’s go vibe, but outside, I need a smoke. That set and feeding off y’all in the pit... it’s just as big if not a greater release than an orgasm.... sometimes you just need a cig after that!! Sometimes even just by myself In my car or walking around the block, to really process and appreciate that high of life that just occurred the last few hours. It’s completely like sex. (With the - hold up... I gotta pee - moment before the cig too 🤣🤣) Make love to the music 🖤
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
@@lexifey1300 I tend to walk a lot after a clubnight, either a visitor or as DJ. Like, let's walk for a few hours and then head home, or walk home all across the city.
@TheVolgun
@TheVolgun 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of stuff I learned here was insane, thank you for taking the time to make this, man.
@eeeveeeve
@eeeveeeve 3 жыл бұрын
yooooooo
@slatetu
@slatetu 3 жыл бұрын
Any interesting wub wub scp's?
@mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2
@mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks scp dude
@scottpatton5220
@scottpatton5220 3 жыл бұрын
the reluctant dimension traveller was amazing thank you for the narration!
@everythinghuman6978
@everythinghuman6978 3 жыл бұрын
Our favoite doctor likes dubstep?
@Mr123Huckleberry
@Mr123Huckleberry 3 жыл бұрын
"Limewire was like this file sharing thing back in the day" Me a 31 year old millenial...Shit.
@stevenwaldon4469
@stevenwaldon4469 3 жыл бұрын
Remember having to teach others in your household that there’s no such thing as a song with a .exe format?
@lamenamethefirst
@lamenamethefirst 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me of how old I've become.
@BleedForTheWorld
@BleedForTheWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Real OGs were there when Napster first started. It was purely for mp3s, too. None of this FLAC nonsense /s.
@yvesdecuyper4047
@yvesdecuyper4047 3 жыл бұрын
Hit me too! '89 here
@swoodruff
@swoodruff 3 жыл бұрын
'89 here as well. I remember (starting in 6th grade) using Napster on my parents' computer when they weren't home to pirate explicit music and burn it to CDs to listen to at night time and on the bus rides to school with my portable CD player. I'd have to install then uninstall Napster (and later Limewire) each time so I wouldn't get caught.
@MedlifeCrisis
@MedlifeCrisis Ай бұрын
Came to this way too late. Absolutely loved it man, great work
@NB-lx6gz
@NB-lx6gz 29 күн бұрын
Nice to find you here! I can't wait for your next upload whenever that may be 👀
@StarkbotTV
@StarkbotTV 3 жыл бұрын
Well... thanks for shouting out my track "Prism". It's much appreciated.
@TimbahOnToast
@TimbahOnToast 3 жыл бұрын
A lotta love for starting this adventure for me < 3
@StarkbotTV
@StarkbotTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@TimbahOnToast I put the master up on my bandcamp page with a shout out to this video. So, if anyone wants to get the WAV, it's here. Big thanks again, it's much appreciated. starkey.bandcamp.com/track/prism
@TomNode
@TomNode 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarkbotTV One of the first flacs i bought on boomkat back in the day 👊
@mkozachek
@mkozachek 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarkbotTV Thanks so much for putting this up! I don't know if I would've appreciated this track as much way back when, but now in my early 30s it's amazing.
@StarkbotTV
@StarkbotTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@mkozachek appreciate that. Thanks!
@nickkatz5352
@nickkatz5352 3 жыл бұрын
how i know i'm old: dude has to clarify what limewire is for his audience in a music history video about fucking dubstep. fuuuuuck
@madgigahz
@madgigahz 3 жыл бұрын
right? I'm just gonna lay down and die now
@saskilla1945
@saskilla1945 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 19 and I know about limewire
@MachoNakedTaco
@MachoNakedTaco 3 жыл бұрын
@@saskilla1945 Same
@scaryKILLERwhoKILLSpeople
@scaryKILLERwhoKILLSpeople 3 жыл бұрын
soulseek's still very much alive thankfully and carries it's ethos on
@s2sHoXXs2
@s2sHoXXs2 3 жыл бұрын
limewire is such a middle school mood for me 😭😭
@josephcole224
@josephcole224 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that dubstep originated in Croydon, the most depressing and meaningless place in London. The Cronx was a giant motorway junction surrounded by empty office blocks, decaying shopping centres and abandoned buildings, perfectly mirrored in the dark, squelchy sound of early dubstep. Cronkistani's rise up!
@IUKC
@IUKC 3 жыл бұрын
Good old Croynge. Dubstep certainly helped put it on the map.
@Giesela0815
@Giesela0815 3 жыл бұрын
thats why dub has to be a bit dark :D hits the right spot!
@vinny5638
@vinny5638 3 жыл бұрын
Had no clue dubstep had origins in the UK tbh before this video/comment, thats really cool I cant wait to look up some of the older stuff
@4eversupersonicgirl
@4eversupersonicgirl 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like the darkness of dubstep has not been destroyed because of the early 2010s but simply transferred to future garage (i know it's just called garage in the UK) that artists still do to this day with their tunes.
@Wallacer
@Wallacer Жыл бұрын
You can tell Skrillex has never been to the Cronx!
@xethified
@xethified 4 ай бұрын
This feels like it could have been a conversation with a hip-hop old head. I feel like some version of this conversation has existed for centuries.
@svetlana9369
@svetlana9369 Ай бұрын
As a techno fan im relating super hard to this. I guess it’s a universal experience
@Sergio-nb4hj
@Sergio-nb4hj Ай бұрын
@@svetlana9369 What happened to techno?
@paulussturm6572
@paulussturm6572 Ай бұрын
​@@svetlana9369Goa fan who wasn't even alive the last time the genre was worth a damn.
@SaintsAwayOllie
@SaintsAwayOllie 2 жыл бұрын
I was 15 Back in 2012, It was the peak of mainstream Dubstep with me and my mates banging out tracks by Flux Pavilion, Nero, Skrillex ect. I remember being in GCSE media and the cool teacher in his mid 30s went on a rant about how the stuff we listened to wasn't "true dubstep". He played us some older tracks which we found a bit boring. 10 years later, thanks to this video I finally understand what he was on about.
@darbling311
@darbling311 2 жыл бұрын
hard agree.
@carbon-based-lifeform9172
@carbon-based-lifeform9172 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even dubstep anymore It's something else.
@officaldungeons
@officaldungeons 2 жыл бұрын
Your teacher was an elitist in the same way that classical musician elitists say that anyone who likes Shostakovich, Ligeti, Penderecki, Crumb, Collier, and hundreds more of the most influential composers in the instrumental genre were garbage because they didn’t conform to the dumbed down, sanitised rules that the Classical era composers imposed on others to make music that was “correct.” Your teacher was not “right” your teacher was biased and shortsighted.
@carbon-based-lifeform9172
@carbon-based-lifeform9172 2 жыл бұрын
@@officaldungeons this guy is over here trying to compare skrillex to fucking Mozart. You are extremely out of touch 😆
@werlder
@werlder 2 жыл бұрын
Flux is my defacto favorite, please check out his more recent stuff.
@gravytrain73
@gravytrain73 3 жыл бұрын
As an American, I was introduced to dubstep around 2009 through KZbin “dubstep remixes”, which were just pop songs with tacked-on womps and bass drops.
@psychotropictraveler514
@psychotropictraveler514 3 жыл бұрын
Haha oh man I remember those days, EVERY song had to have a dubstep "remix"
@BAKAMAKAMEDIA
@BAKAMAKAMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the hardest nostalgia hit remembering that. I had so many artist doing that I followed
@MrMitchellw16
@MrMitchellw16 3 жыл бұрын
ITS MEEE MARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@BobbinRobbin777
@BobbinRobbin777 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@JosephKeenanxBiscuit
@JosephKeenanxBiscuit 2 жыл бұрын
I had kinda the same experience, the thing for me though was it was like I got into the sound backwards. I got into it a year or two after skrillex hit and I was in to the crazy tear out tracks and the brostep stuff. I didn't really have the cultural context of people in the UK in the early days. But then I started lurking DSF like all the time and got introduced to do much of that early stuff, and got into producers still making deeper moody stuff going into the mid 2010s. But I still didn't get all the hate on the harder tracks and stuff until I got to see Mala and Coki and then I think a month later I saw Goth Trad play out on legitimate sound systems in Los Angeles. I got it more after that and realized all the crazy beautiful art that was getting crowded out by the popularity of all the screechy crazy headbang ass tunes. Like someone who got into Green Day or Rancid or whatever in the mid 90s and found their way back to old school punk rock kind of or something.
@khalidsawyers6032
@khalidsawyers6032 Жыл бұрын
This was a brilliant piece. I was half expecting it to be a hate piece on Brostep and Skrillex, but it turned out to be a piece on the love for a Genre lost on people like myself who weren't familiar with its roots. I appreciate you for sharing your perspective on this, it really opened my eyes.
@hoidoei941
@hoidoei941 Жыл бұрын
Brostep😂 That name says enough.. total shit music, Glad I grew up with 16bit, Bar9 and Chasing Shadows, not this gay shit
@Amber-w6u9n
@Amber-w6u9n 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate your honesty here. It's most definitely refreshing.
@andybarrett6472
@andybarrett6472 2 ай бұрын
Yeah. Respect for that in an era of too many insults. I hated bro step but don’t mind if others do
@treehann
@treehann 2 ай бұрын
good that it's not the former, because Skrillex is an amazing producer. I don't think he intended to overshadow a great genre just by doing his own dance-y take on it.
@GinaGibbons
@GinaGibbons Жыл бұрын
The part around Burial is so true. I'll never forget the first time I heard it, a memory that is seared into my being in a deep way. It's haunting and magical and untouchable, really.
@jamesfield1674
@jamesfield1674 Жыл бұрын
So cinematic
@Misanthrop1006
@Misanthrop1006 Жыл бұрын
the first time Burial really was something special. "a memory that is seared into my being in a deep way." is a perfect way to describe it.
@ilievsaso
@ilievsaso 11 ай бұрын
im gonna be honest, i started listening to brostep when i was younger and i left it for a long time and a year after i got into music i heard burial and was absolutely
@mcgritty8842
@mcgritty8842 9 ай бұрын
Yall crazy. He made sleepytime music, not dance music
@galetinm
@galetinm 7 ай бұрын
​@@mcgritty8842dance music isn't what you think it is. You don't have to get your ears r*ped to dance.
@pinzatompings9571
@pinzatompings9571 3 жыл бұрын
the most UK thing ever is a cig smoking ban completely changing the vibe of a bass show
@mnamethonk
@mnamethonk 3 жыл бұрын
The reality is that people still smoke in clubs. Smoking ban or not.
@elhomo6406
@elhomo6406 3 жыл бұрын
@@mnamethonk especially on packed nights. It's not like the bouncers gonna wade through a crowd to try find the fucking needle in the haystack.
@nostralgia3203
@nostralgia3203 3 жыл бұрын
imagine if they banned the queen from drinking tea while listening to big ben bangers, she'd go mental
@inglejuice
@inglejuice 3 жыл бұрын
@@mnamethonk Yeah a bit but not that much, it was like that in the beginning now getting less and less. Security getting more and more over zealous about it too. I’m not talking about cigarettes btw Smoking ban has been a huge hurdle in UK clubbing. It’s a vibe killer with about a quarter of the club trying to go to the smoking area, come back from the smoking area or stand out shivering in the smoking area instead of revelling, free in the secret enclosed world that clubs used to be until the lights came on.
@tree4318
@tree4318 3 жыл бұрын
@@mnamethonk why don't they just use hardcore ventilation fans like giant ones in there so you can just smoke it up?
@jayscaping
@jayscaping Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, something tells me skrillex saw this video and took it to heart cause the stuff he's making most recently is more dubstep than anything he's ever released
@NiggaChickenSticks
@NiggaChickenSticks Жыл бұрын
Even the latest id he posted on his iG story is VERY UK dubstep inspired
@heron619
@heron619 Жыл бұрын
I literally came to comment the same thing after just finished listening to his new album! I blame this video for how good that album is!
@bluchubeats
@bluchubeats Жыл бұрын
Nah seriously you can hear it in his new album
@grssu
@grssu Жыл бұрын
@@heron619 agreed, too bizarre is my fav
@UltraCodex66
@UltraCodex66 Жыл бұрын
@@grssu despite listening to the whole thing, Rumble is still my main favourite
@uummiid
@uummiid 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this shit is free to watch.
@4TheWinQuinn
@4TheWinQuinn 3 жыл бұрын
Init it’s fucjin wild people stay poor paying for Disney+, Amazon prime, Netflix, Hulu, when we have this at our fingertips.
@apollo268
@apollo268 3 жыл бұрын
@@4TheWinQuinn it’s chewsday innit
@nottheone-o6u
@nottheone-o6u 3 жыл бұрын
@@apollo268 iT's ToOzDaY
@Helaw0lf
@Helaw0lf 3 жыл бұрын
Been a fan of KZbin since 2006 before Google bought them a few years later. The amount of information and history filed away on here is amazing. Plus you can create playlists for whatever you want.
@sebasmana5798
@sebasmana5798 3 жыл бұрын
perfect documentary of the genre.
@James_Wisniewski
@James_Wisniewski 8 ай бұрын
The best way to explain old Skrillex is probably to look at what he was doing before he started making electronic music. His first couple EPs sound a lot like post-hardcore made with a computer instead of guitars. I was in high school when he first came on the scene and I was very much deep in the heavy metal and metalcore scenes at the time, and even then, I had friends who straight up said it sounded like that. Breakdowns and everything, only renamed to a bass drop.
@Jack-sq6xb
@Jack-sq6xb 2 ай бұрын
Fr. To addon if you look at the song subjects its very similar to post-hardcore. For example, In kill everybody “I want to kill everybody in the world” is a softer quieter voice which is then followed by a very loud and filthy drop. It sounds like someone quiet lashing out which is basically any post hardcore song.
@philphil3507
@philphil3507 Ай бұрын
That first From First to Last album is a good ass album though
@GoExperimental
@GoExperimental 3 жыл бұрын
Storytelling is unreal in this. You have a real talent, my friend!
@silasschramm
@silasschramm 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@silasgotsch4458
@silasgotsch4458 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@dansylas
@dansylas 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@OSYofRR
@OSYofRR 3 жыл бұрын
Same sort of concept happened with hardcore losing its breakbeats and morphing into happy hardcore, a sort of full 180. Commercialism has a formula it seems for capturing organic movements that are far more artistic with a better vibe and twisting them into garbage for the masses, a modern take on religion being an opium for the masses... Sometimes it works though,like when hard rock came about because of electric guitars and bass but that was before the age of big business we saw in the 90's and continues on today. The chaotic bro step is literally harmful for your health yet people craved it. We all have our vices and escapes but that is another discussion on the psyche of humans, but I am glad I never embraced it and the scene died.
@old_romans
@old_romans 3 жыл бұрын
Good editing skills for sure and he speaks clearly enough. Content was eye-rolling, self-serving, immature and as narrow-minded as a boomer.
@ElijahRhyne
@ElijahRhyne 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you had to explain limewire cut my soul on a deep level.
@amberlee4536
@amberlee4536 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in the 90s and my existential horror at the fact that I remember bootlegging music off the radio with a tape deck and this man had to explain Limewire is mind-blowing.
@miguellagos8889
@miguellagos8889 3 жыл бұрын
@@amberlee4536 ahhhh man radio ripped tapes was the best but I always fucking hated when the radio station would fuck up the song by announcing its name at the end or beginning of the song😂😂 fellow 90s kid here but effing limewire was the next step or Ares was also an alternative to limewire, but yeah I fucked up a couple of computers.
@dorjjodvo1992
@dorjjodvo1992 3 жыл бұрын
I used to download stuff at 300kb/s at max... The agony of having to wait days to download games
@darbiblu8411
@darbiblu8411 3 жыл бұрын
We are old now.
@thescarecrow897
@thescarecrow897 3 жыл бұрын
ok boomer
@Kentanyl
@Kentanyl 3 жыл бұрын
This hitting with daft punks breakup, they got me into more focused listening and the era is officially over, not super dubstep educated but this video was amazing
@NASkeywest
@NASkeywest 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping they were announcing the release of a final record, instead......the announcement of the end...
@NinjaThatLongboards
@NinjaThatLongboards 3 жыл бұрын
@@NASkeywest I'm still holding out hope they'll surprise us. Maybe foolishly but I need to believe.
@tob.meister
@tob.meister 3 жыл бұрын
Early Daft Punk is fucking GOATED
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil 3 жыл бұрын
@@tob.meister I've only heard a few daft punk songs, are their later songs not as good?
@fungdark8270
@fungdark8270 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil Just different. KZbin homework and discovery, first two albums
@Algrenion
@Algrenion Жыл бұрын
Your analysis of Burial here was spot on there's such an evocative, emotional quality to it. To this day it runs shivers up my spine and when i listen to the OG album, the one my big brother, my protector, introduced me to - it puts me through such a spectrum of feeling. Like i want to laugh, cry, dance, walk, give myself a hug, all at the same time.
@jigglykarp
@jigglykarp 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know dubstep was so much more, holy fuck.
@strudelh
@strudelh 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I didn't know you could go deeper into the genre lol
@desireesmith862
@desireesmith862 3 жыл бұрын
@@balloonfiesta15 I feel a little bad because I listened to bro step in fourth grade and thought I was the coolest. I love the video though. Edit: Spelling
@wooyaa8152
@wooyaa8152 3 жыл бұрын
and it's EVEN more than this too.
@samc5934
@samc5934 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Donald no one ever said that brostep isn’t dubstep lol, it’s a strand variation of the UK movement. This dude never once said it was inherently garbage, just that the commercialization and figurehead of the genre didn’t do brostep or anything of the other strand variations of the genre Justice. He uses negative connotation because like it says in the description this is entirely subjective and only one perspective lol. He’s introducing music he enjoys aswell as expanding upon the masses idea of the genre, THATS A GOOD THING.
@zazacrumchy3483
@zazacrumchy3483 3 жыл бұрын
There’s even more sub genres like riddim
@FuntCaseUK
@FuntCaseUK 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting take! I must say though, being as i'm 100% a part of the rise of the more aggressive part of dubstep when I started in 2009, I can't help but feel a little disappointed in the reactions of some people towards how myself, Circus Records and other artists during this change in the scene. I do love deeper dubstep, I also make deeper styles of dubstep and have contributed to that as well, so I feel a little attacked by a lot of what was said in here. That being said, i'm not offended at all, this was an awesome narrative from a true fan perspective and understand it totally! Good work my friend. Although saying music got annoying then showing UKF and Circus Records did make me say wow ahahaha
@g0odluck527
@g0odluck527 3 жыл бұрын
how has no one seen this
@tannermccann8922
@tannermccann8922 3 жыл бұрын
You are a fucking legend brother
@KonJonnorMusic
@KonJonnorMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Fr man ! Got into the heavier sound around 2010 , UKF were a huge part of the success of that heavier noisy dubstep in the UK. I think the real game changer came when Skrillex started hitting here though. That electro/dubstep sound is clearly a US import of the original UK dubstep . I like soulful vibes, but I guess you know yourself - the hype is where the money is!
@tom_mac
@tom_mac 3 жыл бұрын
I think it takes a big man reply to this video in a solid gold spirited way like you did, all things considered but uh; All respect due, and you were very good at it, but surely you knew what you were doing with brostep there. Brudda, you called ur project FuntCase. lol.
@FuntCaseUK
@FuntCaseUK 3 жыл бұрын
@@tom_mac was kinda an accident i ended up being called FuntCase but i'm not sure what you mean entirely by "you knew what you were doing"
@ChimeTunes
@ChimeTunes 3 жыл бұрын
This is a lovely re-telling of the history behind dubstep's origins filled with your unique experiences as a dubstep listener from the UK that I appreciate the hell out of! But as a dubstep listener - now producer - also from the UK that only got into dubstep after 2010, during its transition into what you claim to be the "downfall" of the genre, it's frustrating to have your in-depth recital of it's origins not continue past the point many of us gained our interest. There's so much to explore in dubstep post-2010 that is completely beyond and separate to the "tasteless" vibe you mention as the end-all-be-all of the genre now. While it's of course an utterly different genre of music at this point, it's a continuous frustration of mine to once again hear a UK-based listener outright dismiss a style I know to be varied and beautiful - referred to so negatively and based entirely on it's surface-level perception from an outsider. Just because the music has evolved and changed drastically, it doesn't mean there aren't any incredibly introspective and thoughtful approaches to the genre being employed over the past 10 years. The UK loves to claim things as ours and hate it when it's taken and changed and this is displayed no better to me than with dubstep's evolution. My music may not be dark, brooding or subdued for the most part and it's absolutely not in the same ball-park as those early dubstep tunes you love, but I assure you they're incredibly meaningful to me despite being wrapped up in that high-impact, sound-design-celebrating package you've dismissed. Hell, I even had a tune with Flux Pavilion come out last week - an artist you lumped into being part of "the problem" multiple times during this video and one I know to put in a huge amount of thought into his tunes. Just because a track is high-energy doesn't mean it can't be deep and meaningful - and a track doesn't have to be deep and meaningful to be great. For me the appeal of modern dubstep IS the fact that you can wrap emotions into it and blast it at a crowd with as much impact as sonically possible. I love subtlety too but the maximal nature of dubstep's new form is insanely beautiful to me in a way I have never experienced with dubstep pre-2010. I guess my point is, people express themselves in different ways and they shouldn't be shamed for that. If someone wants to make tunes that are literally just fun as hell to play live then that can be as important to them as another producer pouring their emotions into their music. There's pleeeenty I dislike about the modern dubstep scene and where it's gone recently but I just wanted to give a bit of a rebuttal to your points about brostep along with a reminder that just because you know the depths of a genre's origin doesn't mean you can claim that the entire continuation of it is terrible without actually diving into it properly for yourself!
@sharkstunes
@sharkstunes 3 жыл бұрын
hi harvey have a nice day
@96YotaT100
@96YotaT100 3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@AustinSimard
@AustinSimard 3 жыл бұрын
That was very well written, I appreciate your insight Harvey.
@frankycheifsosa8946
@frankycheifsosa8946 3 жыл бұрын
CHIME
@Ghost0oo
@Ghost0oo 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said
@tweeleaf
@tweeleaf Жыл бұрын
this is starting to happen with “breakcore,” which people refuse to call the correct name. tiktok is mostly to blame, for gentrifying breakcore into some generic ethereal atmospheric dnb. literally every song on the “breakcore” hashtag sounds like the same clone of some edgy teenager’s track made on fl studio 3 years ago, with breaks ripped straight from jungle jungle, completely unmodified. it hurts both the reputation of actual breakcore, and actual jungle music. sometimes, i don’t really hate gatekeeping.
@gx1tar1er
@gx1tar1er Жыл бұрын
Both phonk & breakcore are getting the "dubstep curse" which is sad.
@Billiamwoods
@Billiamwoods 11 ай бұрын
​@@gx1tar1erThe parallels really are all there. It's kind of funny how bass house and hybrid trap are the most direct descendants of brostep, but it's phonk that's been flanderized as a gimmick genre. And I hate the fact that breakcore has become the catch-all for basically any DnB and breakbeat music. Even people who "know music" think any song with breaks is breakcore. That's linguistic evolution on some level, but where do you find actual breakcore, then?
@fire.walk.with.me.430
@fire.walk.with.me.430 3 ай бұрын
like how can you call it breakcore when you have 3 minutes of unchopped amens over a single looping pad sound lmao
@DJAutism1
@DJAutism1 2 ай бұрын
I am a TikTok user and I absolutely hate what those 2 genres have become to. Some other people on TT do hate what became of the popularization of breakcore too.
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA Ай бұрын
Kids got their hands on breakcore?
@WorldOfXeen
@WorldOfXeen 3 жыл бұрын
Skrillex is the artist who got me into Dubstep. I remember being at a really small local venue and they had scary monsters and nice sprites playing through the huge speakers. The bass shook my whole body and I was hooked. It was the first time I had heard anything like it. After watching this I'm excited to go and give all of the other subgenres and classic dubstep artists I've never heard a listen. This video was such a great look at the history of the genre and the editing was beyond stellar.
@willb1405
@willb1405 2 жыл бұрын
Names to check out: skream, loefah, kode9, coki, mala
@BloodOfTartaros
@BloodOfTartaros 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, fam: Dubstep has no subgenres, only styles!
@danJAHrous
@danJAHrous 8 ай бұрын
Names to check for today, Leon Switch, Biome, Truth, AxH and anything on Dubstep For Deep Heads, Uprise Audio & Deep, Dark and Dangerous.
@breadandbuddabaybay6550
@breadandbuddabaybay6550 Жыл бұрын
I think the irony is that now people are discovering classic dubstep through Skrillex
@arforafro5523
@arforafro5523 Жыл бұрын
I don't think its ironic at all, I think its a natural pattern as people become more familiar and knowledgeable about a genre. Just like the author eventually let go of his bitterness at the modern dubstep scene and went back to enjoying the music he loved so do new listeners introduced by the more commercial material eventually dig down into the roots of a genre they like.
@FilmDegenerates
@FilmDegenerates Жыл бұрын
finish your sentence jabronie... ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿(◡︵◡)
@HasturLaVishnu
@HasturLaVishnu Жыл бұрын
Benga - night
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of people seeing the "Mama Mia" movie or hearing "Stayin' Alive" for the umpteenth time slowly expanding to classic '70s dance and funk tunes. Once you get past the fancy design floating atop your cappuccino, you discover the deliciously dark drink underneath.
@that_which_is_not
@that_which_is_not Жыл бұрын
The real irony is Skream claiming how much he hates Gabba and how easily it could be forgotten about! 💀
@jordank1489
@jordank1489 3 жыл бұрын
Burial was the first time I realised I was depressed. I would smoke weed in my tiny shed, living on my own at 16 because my parents got divorced and both of them moved out. I had to drop out of sixth form, even though I was a good student, and started working in a factory making car radiators. When that vocal on shell of light came in I broke down for the first time. Such a cathartic experience!
@thalamusDecimation
@thalamusDecimation 3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely hope you're doing well these days man.
@mrblobifier
@mrblobifier 3 жыл бұрын
@@thalamusDecimation same here
@sabojezles
@sabojezles 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you all the best, man, take good care of yourself!
@jordank1489
@jordank1489 3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, left this a bit open ended didn't I? Haha. Anyone concerned, firstly thanks, and also I'm absolutely grand now. This was like 10-odd years ago.
@sabojezles
@sabojezles 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordank1489 It's really good to know, man, hopefully the future has some grand and beautiful surprise in the horizon for you. Thank you for the reply.
@cameaston5632
@cameaston5632 8 ай бұрын
This story of a connection to music/art is so special and well told. I love the way it’s a story about a music genre and about you. The realisation that what you loved no longer exists was so poignant. Thank you for putting the time and effort into making this.
@espawna
@espawna 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a huge fan of "brostep" since 2010. This video really opened my eyes to real /UK dubstep I just listened to Burial and I am completely enamored with the sound.
@Sool101
@Sool101 3 жыл бұрын
It's mesmerising
@dpdilla
@dpdilla 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but this comment makes me happy. I think I had this experience coming into drum and bass (specifically Metalheadz) in the late 90s and discovering all the dope music from the early 90s that lead up to it (specifically Reinforced Records)
@DeanLawrence_ftw
@DeanLawrence_ftw 3 жыл бұрын
this makes me happy too. well done on broadening your horizons. burial has an uncanny ability to reach right into your chest and play with your heart
@metalworker87
@metalworker87 3 жыл бұрын
man welcome to the planet. you can now learn to walk
@ext93
@ext93 3 жыл бұрын
Ashtray wasp
@prupsicle
@prupsicle 3 жыл бұрын
Mate I’m not even a dubstep fan and I was utterly transfixed by this video
@brendendas
@brendendas 3 жыл бұрын
Transfixed is accurate.
@Chocobo_Kwehh
@Chocobo_Kwehh 26 күн бұрын
Never even heard of what dubstep TRULY is. Im a newfag to the dubstep genre and fell in love with brostep and melodic dubstep back in 2016 when I was still in junior high, CHIME, Virtual Riot, Bandlez and the OG DISCIPLE groups were my fans just as they were probably also fans of Mala, Burial, Coki. I really love that melodic and heavy head bopping with a bass so deep it could destroy my eardrums and because of that I really felt like I found MY music. at the time I didnt know what music I liked, i just listened to whatever was popular on MTV like Taylor Switft or Katy Perry but when I finally listened to new wave dubstep artist like Virtual Riot I found artists that could never even be on the car radio or tv. San Holo, Laura Brehm, Feint even people who dont do dubstep like Fox Stevenson, Porter Robinson, Nanomake. Sure some people might call me cringe and immature for not even knowing the REAL dubstep but I really dont care. I found my music and I have a lot thanks and respect to the artists who introduced me to it and also the OG artists who made it happen.
@chuu3u
@chuu3u 24 күн бұрын
dude this is exactly how i feel ! i grew up with skrillex and fell in love with the whole genre! ur not alone :,)
@FearNLoathing
@FearNLoathing 3 жыл бұрын
Superb storytelling and editing Mate.
@bellpepper3166
@bellpepper3166 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hi! Fancy seeing you here.
@Augors
@Augors 3 жыл бұрын
Yoooooo, my guy!
@bowskee
@bowskee 3 жыл бұрын
dubstep is one of a kind, greatest electronic music genre
@bellpepper3166
@bellpepper3166 3 жыл бұрын
@@bowskee I think Dubstep is amazing at what it does. It's one of my top favorite genres as a whole! I don't think the greatest genre exists. It would be too perfect if that were the case. I love dubstep to death, I just mainly listen to stuff like Techno, House, Breaks, DnB, Tekkno, Vaporwave, and Acidcore at the moment. I just don't listen to dubstep as I did 3-4 years ago.
@bowskee
@bowskee 3 жыл бұрын
@@bellpepper3166 yeah it died out. Prime dubstep was 2010 - 2014
@berke2336
@berke2336 3 жыл бұрын
it was weird being an American in high school that loved the subtler British stuff like Silkie, Goth Trad, and Skream seeing brostep/Skrillex blow up and everyone started talking about "this crazy new music called dubstep"
@DistrictWitch
@DistrictWitch 3 жыл бұрын
man, as an english person, you are what we wanted lol. Not THEM, Aaaa. Why do americans always ruin British music genres? It's like some 'bruh' at a frat party was like 'TURN IT UP LOUDDDERR, FK THE BASS TRN UP THE MIDZZZ', and then it all went downhill from there.
@Johnpinckney98
@Johnpinckney98 3 жыл бұрын
@@DistrictWitch I want to ask you something. What do people think of the newcomers of the genre (5+ years ago) Chime, Oliverse, Teminite? I know they all can't bring back what dubstep was, but are they doing a good enough job with what the genre has developed into now (in your or your peers opinion)?
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnpinckney98 teminite is hardly new, I can remember jamming to some of his songs back in freshman of high school, and I’m a sophmore in college now. Been almost 6 years.
@testdrivefan1
@testdrivefan1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnpinckney98 Teminite has been producing since 2013 or so. He's not a newcomer nowadays. And simply IMO dubstep can't go back to only the dark sounds of the pre-Skrillex era. It needs to be varied in order to strive. And all of the current dubstep artists nowadays really are helping with this. There are multiple styles for everyone to hear.
@CallowaySchmidt
@CallowaySchmidt 3 жыл бұрын
Bassnectar is what got me interested in the genre
@ThatswhatsupTWU
@ThatswhatsupTWU 3 жыл бұрын
You need to make a Spotify playlist homie
@lasarousi
@lasarousi 3 жыл бұрын
For fuck sake yes.
@larissacristinaamaral1964
@larissacristinaamaral1964 3 жыл бұрын
Definitly!
@lenjaminbang
@lenjaminbang 3 жыл бұрын
i know fucking right
@aaronswanson6227
@aaronswanson6227 3 жыл бұрын
Here ya guys go, 135 hours of dubstep/brostep/just all around bass music.
@trs4184
@trs4184 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronswanson6227 Did you mean to add a link?
@krater869
@krater869 Ай бұрын
I do not know how to thank you for making this video. as a 16 year old completely hooked on many types off electronic music I have watched this video so attentively, to learn about songs from a generation that inspired the artists which I am now listening to, like I probably never have before (considering I cannot pay attention very well) I really appreciate the way that this video is so comprehensive and interesting. The way you told the story, and shared your own experiences as an insider in this community I was absolutely intrigued. Thank you for introducing me to this side of music.
@maxtennyson2.035
@maxtennyson2.035 3 жыл бұрын
Fucken hell, watching this made me realise I only scratched the surface of Dubstep back in the day.
@alexwild1435
@alexwild1435 3 жыл бұрын
Same, it was in my periphery and I liked some tracks but never gave it my full attention.
@Nick1921945
@Nick1921945 3 жыл бұрын
I regret to inform you that you may not be a true explorer. Change your ways.
@juhadexcelsior
@juhadexcelsior 3 жыл бұрын
fucking right? I had no idea about any of this being an american. I actuallty couldn't stomach skrillex, and still can't. However I was a massive fan of artists like virtual riot and flux pavillion. Idk, they just had a better sense of melody and depth to their music than skrillex ever did.
@lukim2744
@lukim2744 3 жыл бұрын
I barely even scratched the surface on dub back in the day lmao I knew the dubstep hole went REAL deep.
@jimmyjab190
@jimmyjab190 3 жыл бұрын
@@juhadexcelsior yeah you're right
@TriSamples
@TriSamples 3 жыл бұрын
All genres have a time span. UK garage used to be underground and exactly like dubstep was early on. It became popular over time and was destroyed by its success. The key to happiness is not to follow a genre but just find things you like and keep searching.
@gregt8033
@gregt8033 3 жыл бұрын
I'm
@dodoshlodo
@dodoshlodo 3 жыл бұрын
Except for Drum & Bass
@wakeyskate
@wakeyskate 3 жыл бұрын
@@dodoshlodo dnb is a bit of an enigma I think, most genres in popular dance music sit between the 110-140 bpm side of things so it’s easier for people to transfer between them. I’ve know plenty of people who’ve moved between funky house to dubstep to minimal to tech house etc. There’s nothing wrong with that but with dnb being nearly on its own at the top end of the spectrum there’s there’s a wider spectrum to work with within the dnb umbrella, which I love by the way. It’s outlived lots of ‘fads’ (harsh term but let’s be real) along the way and still going strong so totally agree with you.
@Flokoli1
@Flokoli1 3 жыл бұрын
@@wakeyskate I love neuro funk and drumstep
@wakeyskate
@wakeyskate 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flokoli1 like the former but not so keen on the latter
@andreyandonov
@andreyandonov 3 жыл бұрын
It was 2008 and I was attending a Radiohead concert in Dublin. They warmed up the crowd by playing something out of this world there I heard for the first time Burial.
@johnnyscifi
@johnnyscifi 3 жыл бұрын
Not surprised, both Greenwood, and Yorke adore dub, and reggae
@andreyandonov
@andreyandonov 3 жыл бұрын
@greylittlelives as far as I remember it was the entire album Untrue
@andreyandonov
@andreyandonov 3 жыл бұрын
@greylittlelives it was, it was :))) a crowd without phones.
@TxxT33
@TxxT33 3 жыл бұрын
OMG yes! Burial changed me.
@Brainles5
@Brainles5 3 жыл бұрын
Burial and Thom yorke have collaborated a couple of times. Most recently just a few months ago along with Four tet. I really recomend checking it out! It is amazing.
@digital-alchemist
@digital-alchemist Жыл бұрын
This is an outstanding music doc. Seriously well done, mate. I vividly remember discovering Burial back in the day and being absolutely blown away by his tunes. Still love his music today. Cheers
@StefanMilo
@StefanMilo 3 жыл бұрын
That was so great. As someone who was at Sheffield uni between 07 and 10, I related a lot to this lol. Skream and Benga were the sound tracks to the big parties.
@oneworldcommunity117
@oneworldcommunity117 3 жыл бұрын
wow, one of my fav archeologist youtubers on a EDM history video? das crazy
@doperagu8471
@doperagu8471 3 жыл бұрын
I was in the US (bay area, California), but also went to university right around then - Skream and Benga was definitely a jam in the Bay Area, for the people who knew better at least 😜
@lotussight
@lotussight 3 жыл бұрын
Benga was fabulous in my town, like there were so many night kitchen scenes and they jusr played all the drum n bass and dubstep you could think of
@user-hj8yf3hr4i
@user-hj8yf3hr4i 3 жыл бұрын
Dude i keep seeing you In the comments section of non history videos. Are you stalking me?? Lolol
@jamieagnew1608
@jamieagnew1608 3 жыл бұрын
@@rorz999 skream at Tuesday club, 2006…?
@i_make_sounds
@i_make_sounds 2 жыл бұрын
What a journey, man. As an American whose only exposure to dubstep was through KZbin playlists full of what you'd call Brostep. I always wondered why one day it was just gone in the popular sphere. I never realized that was because the cultural niche it filled in Britain started to disappear. I knew it originated there but I never realized how divisive the American interpretation was on the other side of the pond. Thanks for the education!
@One_Call_System
@One_Call_System 2 жыл бұрын
I started listening to electronic music and even djed in the mid nineties US rave scene, it was awesome.. Then about 2006, I heard proper dubstep being played out for the first time. And the next week went to Dubwar in NYC, it was Digital Mystiks and Loefah.... still the best dubstep event I ever went to lol. As an American who loved the UK sound, I saw the train wreck that was coming for years. It kept getting worse and worse in the dances too, just like how this guy explains it.. Now the only way to hear the deep stuff is from certain promoters who usually barely break even on their shows. Mean while the festie scene is huge and retarded here in America and I just want to kill myself lol.
@AntonL1994
@AntonL1994 2 жыл бұрын
It was very frustrating at the time
@DeaDiabola
@DeaDiabola Ай бұрын
@@One_Call_System I was a punk/goth around that same time, though more in the early 2000s than the 90s. I still loved going to raves/gabber shows. They were genuinely magical experiences that rapidly degraded after 2007. I miss how beautiful the people, the environments, the freedom, the affordability, the music. People were so creative and fun with their outfits, no one was there just to take pictures for their socials. Not to sound like an old, but it's really hard to see all four scenes completely fall apart in the face of capitalism.
@Bandstand
@Bandstand 3 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail and title of this video has me so intrigued. Imma come back to this 🤝
@onsight1318
@onsight1318 3 жыл бұрын
hol up hol up
@le_mole
@le_mole 3 жыл бұрын
Same, it's been saved for tomorow 😂
@ryanmccarthy2033
@ryanmccarthy2033 3 жыл бұрын
Its time
@ryanmccarthy2033
@ryanmccarthy2033 3 жыл бұрын
@@le_mole its tomorrow
@dougharper1492
@dougharper1492 3 жыл бұрын
Yea!
@kiwidubtee
@kiwidubtee 10 ай бұрын
Wow. This is a really, really impressive piece of work. The way you explain and dissect the dubstep sound, its history, the culture that influenced it and the underground scene it created is absolutely awesome. As a formerly obsessive fan of the original dubstep sound, this definitely made me nostalgic. I love the way you broke down and compared the differences between tear out dubstep tunes and the brostep stuff - this is something I have always wanted to explain to people but have never been able to verbalise myself.
@RC--ji2ov
@RC--ji2ov Жыл бұрын
this entire story greatly reminds me of vaporwave from my personal experience of discovering and falling in love with it in my early teens to the progression of the genre itself splitting into tons of different ways and no one really knowing what "vaporwave" is anymore.
@gabrielgeorgemartins1103
@gabrielgeorgemartins1103 Жыл бұрын
I just said exactly that on Twitter. This video is basically my experience with vaporwave
@YourPetSnake
@YourPetSnake Жыл бұрын
Vaporwave is when slowed and reverb now
@bsh819
@bsh819 Жыл бұрын
Having a genre splinter into a million different things is better than having it collapse into just one.
@OscillatorCollective
@OscillatorCollective Жыл бұрын
Same…I luckily avoided most of the “dubstep years” and found vaporwave. I still love vaporwave and all of its sub genres, abd I still think dubstep is a joke.
@mac081793
@mac081793 Жыл бұрын
2011-2012 was an incredible time for Vaporwave and such a nostalgic for me. Its like it had been the sound I was always searching for. Then a few years later Vaporwave just became pink sunsets, windows 95, lean, and Arizona ice tea cans. Haha I was so butthurt about it at the time. Ironic how commodified it became when it had a somewhat underlying anti-capitalist tone to it.
@forkyforklift2924
@forkyforklift2924 3 жыл бұрын
ive been a metalhead since my early teens and even though the difference between your taste in music and mine differ vastly i found it oddly pleasant to notice throughout listening to your retrospective how similar we feel about our passion and how much I still could relate to your story
@goofygoodpasture8511
@goofygoodpasture8511 2 жыл бұрын
I used to only listen to metal, but calmer dubstep is pretty amazing
@doggodoggo3000
@doggodoggo3000 2 жыл бұрын
i like to experience all that the world has to offer. There are more talented people than ever and locking yourself into one genre seems scary and weird to me. Like people who listen to nothing but the pop or country station, people who lived through the 80s or 90s and only listen to music from then. There is SO MUCH music out there, im constantly finding dope stuff that ive never heard. Lately i listen to alot of chill stuff but its kind of all over the place. i really like internet radio feeding me new stuff. And youtube, there is this channel called "alona chemerys"? that had a ton of cool music and art. i fed the ones i like into spotify and that has based my listening experience for the last year or so lol. not just music from that channel but also stuff that eventually led me too. And there is alot of talent in pop music even so im not automatically opposed to anything popular.
@darwinwatterson4568
@darwinwatterson4568 Ай бұрын
​@@doggodoggo3000i like u please please share music with me. we should be friends who share random music hahah ^^
@clrndalvare
@clrndalvare 3 жыл бұрын
I've spent half of my life waiting for someone to come up with a cohesive thesis on how the word "dubstep" came from meaning the sound of Burial to the shouts of Skrillex. This is it, you made it my friend. Thanks.
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same here! :D
@Enzaio
@Enzaio 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I totally get you. When I listened to Burial for the first time about a year ago and then saw it labeled as dubstep, it nearly broke my brain. Now I get it.
@emancipator6497
@emancipator6497 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@notmus
@notmus 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Average metal/rock fans: dUbStEP iS nOt mUzIc iZ nOT hAvE LyRiCs.
@mushyfooproductions
@mushyfooproductions Ай бұрын
...which is ironic in itself because Burial's early stuff is already fairly far from the root of the term - 2-step Garage that gets a soundsystem dub treatment. Imo Burial was already indicative of post-dubstep having arrived
@samh-ks6ev
@samh-ks6ev Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about me is that I actually grew up on brostep as an american kid. Now as a 17 year old I’ve gone back into the depths of the genre and found all these old goodies which I love so much today. The old stuff reignited my passion for the music.
@ryno4ever433
@ryno4ever433 3 ай бұрын
@samh-ks6ev that's wild considering you'd have been about 6 when brostep was popping off. That shit came and went fast.
@samh-ks6ev
@samh-ks6ev 3 ай бұрын
@@ryno4ever433 yep lol, first grade through fifth grade
@checkeredslime9478
@checkeredslime9478 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Skrillex's Nardwaure interview made me feel so sorry for him. He got so much hate during dubstep's pique popularity, and you can tell he's legitimately happy to be treated so kindly.
@sol5038
@sol5038 3 жыл бұрын
I remember how he posted Aphex Twin's Flim on fb, calling it his favourite song of all time, and his fans complained about the lack of a drop. Looking back, I really do feel bad for him.
@TheAwesomoe
@TheAwesomoe 3 жыл бұрын
He was really in touch with trends as well, his later songs were of a genre (sound) that would dominate the market a bit later.
@drifter402
@drifter402 3 жыл бұрын
@@sol5038 I remember the article where Aphex Twin agreed to let Skrillex have a go on his tank
@carsandzombies7606
@carsandzombies7606 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone hated him and memed him to death but yes, he is very nice. He was a singer in a emo/metal band then transitioned to Dubstep. Im not surprised he created brostep. Metallic sounds got introduced due to his past lol.
@grandtheftautocj
@grandtheftautocj 3 жыл бұрын
@@sol5038 That was such an iconic moment.
@Figureight
@Figureight 3 жыл бұрын
The 5 stages of grief can be observed throughout this video. I came into this as someone who has followed dubstep since 2006, and hated everything that Skrillex put out and only really tacked onto the very early signs of what would be considered Brostep. I think for me it's that I feel like the dubstep scene I grew with and fell in love with was never appreciated to the scale of which brostep was. When I tell someone I like dubstep, they imaging me listening to Bangarang, not Anti-War Dub or Mud. It feels like some sort of injustice to the origins of the genre, and so like the creator of this video I too feel this need to want to idolise it and spread the word of it like some sort of bass missionary.
@noompsieOG
@noompsieOG 3 жыл бұрын
See what you explained here ? It’s exactly how I feel about metalcore and beat down genre , also the punk pub rock genre , “the chats” are the skrillex of the genre which I was blessed to witness Start in melbourne over a decade ago where the artists who truly formed the genre are still unknown and not appreciated
@breakingpoints4019
@breakingpoints4019 3 жыл бұрын
He ruined rumbatone
@zerohp5098
@zerohp5098 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sebp400
@sebp400 3 жыл бұрын
@@noompsieOG punk dub started with bands like The Slits in the 70's.. Pre On-U Sound records even.
@noompsieOG
@noompsieOG 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebp400 no I said punk pub not dub lol Eddie current suppression ring , amyl and the sniffers etc
@dankenstin8803
@dankenstin8803 3 жыл бұрын
As someone, who isn’t a fan of dubstep, this is amazing.
@zenithquazar4767
@zenithquazar4767 3 ай бұрын
being introduced to Burial distracted me so much I forgot to finish this video for two years.
@skyalkemade605
@skyalkemade605 2 жыл бұрын
The strange thing is that dubstep is still very much alive. In my city of Amsterdam we have tons of parties with well known dubstep artists where tickets sell out often.
@apmac6723
@apmac6723 2 жыл бұрын
that's cos those kids are down to party 24-7
@skyalkemade605
@skyalkemade605 2 жыл бұрын
@@apmac6723 I'd actually put the age range between 20 and 30 over here. And dedicated fans to certain artists. It's more the drum and bass that attracts younger party kids
@bleepbloop134
@bleepbloop134 2 жыл бұрын
Waah waah its not real dubstep waah waah
@thavrisco1632
@thavrisco1632 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like contemporary trends die faster on average in the US and Canada compared to Europe, Asia, or Latin America. There's a certain meme that I always see when browsing Chinese social media, Brazilians were still playing Among Us a while after it died in the US, and Amsterdam still appreciates dubstep.
@Jaymo00
@Jaymo00 2 жыл бұрын
Dubstep is alive and well in California! Theres TONS of clubs, raves and big festivals over here that play dubstep and all its subgenres.
@marciturani6416
@marciturani6416 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched a 50 minute video about a genre I don't listen to.
@Vilerviette
@Vilerviette 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched 50 minute video about a genre I don't listen to and I'm now listening to said genre. xD
@hanneloreclemenson1228
@hanneloreclemenson1228 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@TheGhostServant
@TheGhostServant 3 жыл бұрын
well done video essays can do that
@PortervilleMusicSociety
@PortervilleMusicSociety 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think I love techno but I’m not familiar with any of this and it’s really nice hearing about the experiences and life around a genre and growth
@jamesleon4883
@jamesleon4883 3 жыл бұрын
You’re pretty open minded then.
@taliban_skate_vids
@taliban_skate_vids 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been musically homeless. I like darkwave, country, thrash metal, synth, anything. But I've never been so entrenched in a genre as it was happening. I always arrive at the aftermath, when there's no chance of music coming out, or all I have to hold onto is a shitty mp3 I downloaded from youtube. It blows my mind that all of this happened without me knowing it was even there, it's existence is completely new to me.
@UsedNapkin3115
@UsedNapkin3115 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh I’ll be listening to Megadeth and then go listen to fuckin Waterflame sometimes lmao.
@norgepalm7315
@norgepalm7315 3 жыл бұрын
@@UsedNapkin3115 👏 wow
@DealingLace
@DealingLace 3 жыл бұрын
How the fuck am I supposed to beat Takeshi’s Challenge, Takeshi?
@taliban_skate_vids
@taliban_skate_vids 3 жыл бұрын
@@DealingLace just don't fuck up
@theeoddments960
@theeoddments960 3 жыл бұрын
@@UsedNapkin3115 here’s your award 🥉
@Dman130
@Dman130 Жыл бұрын
I watched this video when it came out and it truly sparked my interest in UK Dubstep. I grew up with skrillex and other brostep artist in US. I did discover El-B when I was in college but never dug too deep into his tracks. It wasn’t until this video came out, during this time I was going on a major musical journey (I enjoy all genres of music and started to collect vinyl). This video truly captured the culture of what dubstep was. I just want to thank you for this video. 2 years later and I am now obsessed with UK Dubstep and have a growing vinyl collection of these dope tunes. I come back to this video now and again, and it is so amazing to recognize all these tunes and know these artist with more confident than when this came out. Sorry for my life story, but I feel if it wasn’t for this video, I’d never dig more into the UK Dubstep and would not enjoy listening and collecting dubstep. Thank you for this masterpiece!
@ch33zer
@ch33zer 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is the standard progression when a niche genre blows up. As the music gets bigger it gets boiled down to the parts people find the most enjoyable. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, or with the people that enjoy it. Music doesn't need to be a subtle deep experience at all times, sometimes it can just be some shit you headbang to. I understand that it can really suck for those who like a particular aspect, though.
@LoudPaul1
@LoudPaul1 3 жыл бұрын
it can also get boiled down to the parts people find the most profitable.
@f67739
@f67739 3 жыл бұрын
there is a huge problem with that when you're involved in making the music or establishing the scene
@sophiafortyfour
@sophiafortyfour 3 жыл бұрын
I bet garage heads hated what they loved turned into. Strange, deep, and slow music.
@123eee
@123eee 3 жыл бұрын
@@rorz999 I've just posted a comment related to this - my feeling at the time was that after the financial crash people needed to burn the anxiety off somehow (and yeah, sure, some people profited from the crash, but they sure as fuck weren't at any dubstep nights)
@mikedavidson6454
@mikedavidson6454 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoudPaul1 in terms of music those are the same things typically
@yezmo5688
@yezmo5688 3 жыл бұрын
This video is actually making me realize why as a kid i hated trying to share what genre of music i listen to.
@OfficialGoldenboy
@OfficialGoldenboy 3 жыл бұрын
Bruuuh same but we got the chance to bring it back & better !!
@David-ck3gv
@David-ck3gv 3 жыл бұрын
I usually say electronica now. It's broad enough and also somewhat different from EDM
@UNCOOKEDTV
@UNCOOKEDTV 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKvEfYqel85_e5o
@1337-i3v
@1337-i3v 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 15-17 and people would ask me to control the music at a party, I would because sure I like it... But the party goers 99% of the time didn't. I quit around 2015 to share my music with anyone. I knew no one liked it so why torture them. It sounds much more harsh in text lol It's been years. I'm used to it and I'm not a festival (or party) goer anyways. Very introverted. I actually even prefer earphones. I say I listen to EDM these days. I go into deeper level details if the person seem to know anything or ask for it.
@notmus
@notmus 2 жыл бұрын
Remember guys EDM is a term not a genre, all dubstep and DnB and jungle belongs to the underground bass scene, edm is a term for all the mainstream big room and trap hits since 2011 when big room and deep house was huge.
@zZerozZz
@zZerozZz 2 жыл бұрын
My dubstep journey was backward. Skrillex got me into dubstep, then I researched the history of the genre and found out about these old school UK dubstep artists in the video, and I love both classic dubstep and brostep equally. While I think tastes are subjective, and things like this will always happen, even now in brostep (people who like riddim and those who don't), I hope people are more open minded because dubstep as a whole is still going strong and there are so many talented artists worth checking out in the new wave of brostep. I'm still a frequent fan of DUPLOC and recently really digging the "color bass" subgenre with artists like Chime and his label Rushdown, go give them a listen to see if you like it or not!
@chrizi7753
@chrizi7753 2 жыл бұрын
Color bass and riddim are so fire dude and the old school bro step is fire too
@HieronymousLex
@HieronymousLex Жыл бұрын
Riddim was also killed in the same way. I guess I’m not surprised that we can’t even have this one video for the people who were actually there. Even this has to be taken over by millions of brostep fans talking about how they love both, completely missing the point
@jornl9177
@jornl9177 Жыл бұрын
Same here: coming from a middle European country I couldnt afford a bass heavy soundsystem listened to Skrillex got bored by brostep which I considered as dubstep and found other genres and subgenres I wouldn't have heard otherwise.
@JohnPaulBuce
@JohnPaulBuce Жыл бұрын
OMG SAME!!!
@loyaltyuncrythro6788
@loyaltyuncrythro6788 Жыл бұрын
@@HieronymousLexas long as they start to understand the roots of dubstep and listen to what the vid has to say then I don’t see how being a gatekeeper is equally any better then an ignorant bro step listener. You were there ? Aight cool, people tryna to head back to the past on their accord and dig up what the forefathers of the genres left behind, it ain’t their fault all they had around them was brostep at the time
@YarkVI
@YarkVI Жыл бұрын
Man, I've just discovered you with this video and it's a great find! I discovered dubstep when I was 10 (in 2010) and I've never been out of it since. Listening to Skream, Burial and Phaeleh again has made my day, but as someone who loved dubstep before and after 2010, what I particularly enjoyed was discovering the context of Brostep. Honestly, I can't even imagine how proud you must be of this video, which retraces your entire musical life. For my culture and nostalgia, thank you.
@sevenkaylive
@sevenkaylive 3 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate the guy putted EVERY SONG in the description!
@minnie7453
@minnie7453 3 жыл бұрын
I want someone to put them all on a Spotify playlist
@TheSkullConfernece
@TheSkullConfernece 3 жыл бұрын
Is he a golfer or something?
@zerveaux
@zerveaux 3 жыл бұрын
@@minnie7453 many of those were only distributed physically :p
@jessicareed2092
@jessicareed2092 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSkullConfernece English is probably not his first language, don't be a jerk
@joeyboikly
@joeyboikly 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSkullConfernece what’s a golfer?
@benfletcher8100
@benfletcher8100 3 жыл бұрын
I was just talking to someone the other day and was like “Remember when dubstep was huge and Skrillex was one of the top artists?”
@ChodeMaster
@ChodeMaster 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 3 жыл бұрын
I would have slapped you around your dirty mouth for saying skrillexx
@benfletcher8100
@benfletcher8100 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gianfranco_69 And why would you do that?
@veronikat6996
@veronikat6996 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gianfranco_69 Chill out dude
@woods3757
@woods3757 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gianfranco_69 skrillex
@dmdeign7116
@dmdeign7116 Жыл бұрын
I don't listen to any dance music whatsoever, I'm primarily a metalhead, and somehow stumbled upon this video. Gotta say, this look into your world was truly eye opening, and makes me understand people's love for this music way more. Damn good video bro!
@1904jin
@1904jin Жыл бұрын
You should listen to PhaseOne. Its a good mix of metal and dubstep!
@careem3463
@careem3463 Жыл бұрын
@@1904jinwhy would someone do that ?
@MmeHyraelle
@MmeHyraelle Жыл бұрын
​@@1904jinigorrr out there too :)
@jefe536
@jefe536 10 ай бұрын
Anymore recommendations? Drooling over the sounds from PhaseOne and Igorrr
@TheOnlyShadowWarrior
@TheOnlyShadowWarrior 9 ай бұрын
​@@jefe536 Truth, Distance, Amit, Tunnidge.. Check these artists out
@kyuballer333
@kyuballer333 16 күн бұрын
I’m not a dubstep fan but I decided to watch your video just to get some perspective about the music. I found that your video to be one of most insightful meditations about music and our relationship to it. The story of how dubstep got boiled down over time due to a variety of factors both internal and external can be applied to just about every genre. Loved this video so much.
@JakeLDS
@JakeLDS 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing about the smoking ban. People used to smoke a lot of weed on the dancefloor. No one was ever really dancing dancing, we'd all just stand there in the dark nodding to the beat, deep in the groove as we were blazing. After the smoking ban came in you couldn't really smoke weed while you enjoyed a set so the vibe changed a lot. People were drinking more and loads of ketty teenagers started flailing around on the dance floor. I remember there was a very distinct way that the crowds behaviour changed because of it.
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
In one of the local clubs they would still smoke occasionaly. On every door there was a piece of paper stating the smoking ban an the fibers were greyed out from the ashes and fog. It was rare enough that you could still hang out there without getting a headache after a few years of that ban in action, but you could still smell the residues.
@RyoMassaki
@RyoMassaki 3 жыл бұрын
There never was a smoking ban in the Berlin underground scene (not enforcable) but i do remember that there was an influx of people who took amphetamine/cocaine as well as some who took Ketamine after a certain point in time. But the overwhelming majority was always fueled by alcohol and/or weed.
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyoMassaki I know some clubs would spray oil on the smooth surfaces in the bathroom to piss off people trying to do coke in there: it would soak into the oil within seconds and be unusable.
@RyoMassaki
@RyoMassaki 3 жыл бұрын
@@Testgeraeusch That's creative. Lol. I can understand though. There is something about cocaine that just makes people insufferable if their personality isn't great. Most people can't handle it and turn into egoistical assholes. Me included, that's why I don't take it.
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
The closest i came to drugs was a dude bringing a cake to a party and one hour later being informed that he should mark said cake somehow as it contained weed. He was so lost, he forgot to tell everybody what he had made.
@DrOziOfficial
@DrOziOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video a lot. Very Nostalgic. I LOVED hearing your story. I Loved the history. You spent a lot of time gathering info. I know you don't speak for everyone, this video was what made YOU loose interest in the genre. I myself was a Death Metal listener and I know this feeling of losing a part of your musical origin from your teenage life. I appreciate you sharing your passion about the genre. edit: I also wanna say that this video has opened a nice dialogue within the community. So you're on to something
@ZoomToYourDoom
@ZoomToYourDoom 3 жыл бұрын
Funny I ran into you here! 😂 I discovered modern dubstep when you dropped Carnivalstep dude. Shit blew my mind! Especially the VIP on DubstepGutter. It’s really nice that you can enjoy something with someone you’ve never met before and be able to divulge into a runaway conversation with them. Love you dude!❤️
@dekdenfor9770
@dekdenfor9770 3 жыл бұрын
me: wants to finish the video also me: just heard about Burial for the first time an now have to listen to his entire discography
@madsnoop7
@madsnoop7 3 жыл бұрын
Bruhhhhh
@aprilmason1616
@aprilmason1616 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem, I made some screenshot and sitting down with a notebook and pencil
@alexconradt1744
@alexconradt1744 3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely jealous. Have a good time it's an amazing dive to go down
@Mark-fk2gx
@Mark-fk2gx 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexconradt1744 Have to agree Burial... He is just something else the first time your ears are blessed by his tunes.
@quietusq489
@quietusq489 3 жыл бұрын
Man, i wish i could discover Burial again for the first time. Start from the beginning and just got through it in order. Its a ride!
@insertsomethin
@insertsomethin 2 ай бұрын
The irony here is that this video probably played a role in skrillex’s hiatus. Which in turn caused the return of Skrillex in peak form - a blend between new music production abilities and a serious return to the roots of dubstep. If you listen to anything Skrillex has put out the last couple of years he really has embodied the old school dubstep sound with a new age twist. Which, has in turn created a huge new offshoot of 140bpm sound that is extremely nostalgic. Thank you for making this history/commentary piece! 💙
@alexwise5459
@alexwise5459 3 жыл бұрын
Skrillex was actually my entry in discovering music in general. He was the first artist that I actively sought out music for. Sure I was only like 11, and don't even really like skrillex anymore, he still led me to the genres I listen to today.
@alexwise5459
@alexwise5459 3 жыл бұрын
@Federal Bureau Of Investigation I'm 17, I was 7 when scary monsters and nice sprites came out. I was 10 when I started actively listening to skrillex.
@XeroPro
@XeroPro 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@flammingdragon
@flammingdragon 3 жыл бұрын
check out his work with From First to Last
@ianholmquist8492
@ianholmquist8492 3 жыл бұрын
You have my pity
@oight
@oight 3 жыл бұрын
I honesty don't understand how people found any enjoyment in skrillex and I listen to some shite donk music lmao, but it at least hits that dopamine part of my brain shamelessly. honestly jealous, wish I could get that feeling from it that all those american lads went mental for when skrillex came on, just can't understand at all
@rhettorical
@rhettorical 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like a man's soliloquy for a lost love. It's not a documentary about dubstep, it's a story of a man coming to terms with the fact that everything has an expiration date and life just keeps moving on.
@ab_aliens
@ab_aliens 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's about him, not the music. Because the music is fine. Always been.
@alextomlinson
@alextomlinson 2 жыл бұрын
@@ab_aliens nothing about Skrillex is fine
@ab_aliens
@ab_aliens 2 жыл бұрын
@@alextomlinson Skrillex is an artist, not a genre.
@alextomlinson
@alextomlinson 2 жыл бұрын
@@ab_aliens Skrillex is an artist who makes a very specific type of music. That "music" is largely void of melody. Whether music needs to include melody or structure or not is up for debate. I think it does. Maybe with some exceptions, Skrillex not being one of them. While I do agree that this video is as much about himself as it is the apparent downfall of the genre, I think he does have a good point that until the likes of Skrillex hit the mainstream, the artists were plentiful and new sounds were being experimented all the time. Skrillex seemingly collapsed the whole thing. The genre was booming even when Benga, Coki and Skream were being aired on BBC radio1extra(an alternative, more underground station to the popular BBC radio 1) As soon as Skrillex started getting played on BBC Radio 1, the genre imploded. It declined in popularity DUE to the nature of his songs and their lack of melody and structure. THEN interest in other artists dwindled too, and new artists ceased to come up and experiment. Skrillex had left such a bad stain on the genre that not many artists wanted to continue to produce. Shows declined, private listening declined as the groupthink of society turned its back on an otherwise eclectic and functional genre.
@ab_aliens
@ab_aliens 2 жыл бұрын
@@alextomlinson As I said, good music is always there. I don't care about the popularity of a genre, the uprising or downfall on mainstream media or ears, because it is irrelevant. In the end, the best - most influential - artists where never mainstream, so this is no excuse. I'm listening to electronic music about 20 years. I saw many genres having ups and downs for various reasons, but I never complained because I was ,and still am, hungry on discovering new sounds. You can be bored and complain, or you can be active and evolve. That's my opinion. The fact is that you are wrong about the void of melody or structure in this kind of music.
@pointsofhonesty
@pointsofhonesty 3 жыл бұрын
moral of the story: music is about open minds and collaboration - don't let your ego get in the way ;-)
@svetlanaahnna3103
@svetlanaahnna3103 3 жыл бұрын
One of my coworkers is what I call the music police. She's super anti-anything electronic.
@jacobfenwick5193
@jacobfenwick5193 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video and it really takes me back, thanks for making it! That said, I think you're missing something important here about the rise of Skrillex. In the beginning Skrillex actually did something interesting and original. His first couple albums were heavily influenced by Sebastian, an artist on Ed Banger records from France who made glitched out electro house. He essentially merged two different genres from two different cultures and created something people just hadn't seen before. The US version of the merger between a UK genre and a French genre. At the time I was really excited about it because I had not found many artists like Sebastian. I was also into dubstep, although not quite as much as all the other bass music heads I lived with in a rave warehouse in the US (back when we could do that before Ghost Ship), who were just as obsessed as you were. In retrospect, I'm not sure that it's fair that people decided Skrillex primarily made dubstep. While his music does focus strongly on basslines, I feel like his early music is way more influenced by electro than by dubstep. It would make sense that the kinds of people that liked dubstep would be upset by the kind of people who like electro invading their scene.
@ApasheOfficial
@ApasheOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely nostalgic to watch, didn't realize it was that long ago and only caught the end of it as a teenager. Can we talk about drugs? In my opinion it played a huge role is... The scene was split, kids that loved drugs stayed in the dnb room cuz dubstep was nice at home but boring to party on. It only shifted when dubstep became more aggressive and we all loved it, we could finally all go to the same events or the same room. We were wild and hopeless only seeking for more self destruction.
@__foam
@__foam 3 жыл бұрын
Someone came from Reddit
@Peichone
@Peichone 3 жыл бұрын
indeed bro, it brought some sweet tears
@mikeyvee5677
@mikeyvee5677 3 жыл бұрын
I took drugs and did party pretty hard on dubstep, the og dubstep .. I remember discovering it in 2005 on lime wire like in the video said. I was like what is this, deep bass weight then my first proper dubstep show was in New Zealand 2006.. Could not get me away from the bassbins..
@Kennyjamesss
@Kennyjamesss 3 жыл бұрын
i used to do drugs when i first got into the dance music scene, i was going to alot of trance shows so at the time i thought thats all EDM ever was, it wasnt until my first steve aoki show in like 2009 (his best ears before becoming lame like he is these days) that i didnt do drugs cause i had to workt he next day, but it blew my mind, and it just progressed there my love for aggressive dance music, then i went to coachella in 2010 and saw skrillex/excision/12thplanet and thats when i knew i loved dubstep
@TheDJkarsy
@TheDJkarsy 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm maybe age and drugs did have a combo that meant people like DnB more but personally I just loved Dubstep no matter what the drug I was on.
@thomasmahoney7538
@thomasmahoney7538 Жыл бұрын
This is like the best dubstep documentary ever. Brilliant insight, not just into dubstep but music in general. Excellent.
@thomasmahoney7538
@thomasmahoney7538 Жыл бұрын
And I was over ten years into jungle/breakbeat and other underground music when the smoking ban came in. You've made me realise with video what a mad difference it made. It was crazy how the scene changed after that ban.
@rorz999
@rorz999 Жыл бұрын
Don't know if you've seen the documentary 'Bassweight' but that's good too!
@doodlekid9864
@doodlekid9864 8 ай бұрын
u clearly yhavent watched that many dubstep docs...
@JohnDoe-rx3vn
@JohnDoe-rx3vn 3 жыл бұрын
Unfun fact: The song sampled at the end of "shell of light" no longer exists. KZbin deleted the original video, and the artist doesn't have a copy. That song is one of the few places you'll ever hear those vocals
@user-gu1il8dp7p
@user-gu1il8dp7p 3 жыл бұрын
I mean there’s definitely a copy of it physically or downloaded by a fan somewhere in the world let’s be honest lmao
@JohnDoe-rx3vn
@JohnDoe-rx3vn 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-gu1il8dp7p i'm hoping someone does, and replies back to me in defiance lol
@HangOnThereSlick
@HangOnThereSlick 3 жыл бұрын
What is shell of light?
@darragho6358
@darragho6358 3 жыл бұрын
@@HangOnThereSlick A burial track. Go watch RA's video on burials unture for more info
@Chopperdragon39
@Chopperdragon39 3 жыл бұрын
the creator of this video probably has it.
@XckBrm
@XckBrm 3 ай бұрын
First off, I thought this video was going to be a hitpiece, and I'm so delighted that it's not. This video hit me right in the feelings. As an American that was introduced to the genre right while the change from traditional dubstep into brostep was happening, you put to words a lot of feelings I've experienced while watching the change happen in real time. I remember first hearing Skrillex and thinking it was rad because outside of things like Excision and other producers like that, it was undeniably some of the cleaner heavier tunes happening. But my introduction to the genre was being at weird house parties and dark basement raves where dubstep was this weird music that captured the atmosphere and feeling of being in a big city, at a weird place, probably on some strange chemical, and it was utterly hypnotic. It's a vibe I've been chasing for years, that now only exists in going back and listening to old tracks that came out pre-2008 or so. I still remember hearing that music for the first time on big speakers. It was truly other. Watching the way the genre grew in to the ethos of metal and it becoming a pissing contest of 'who can make the heaviest drop' was exactly like watching the hardcore punk scene do the exact same thing at more or less the same time, which is what brought me out of hardcore and in to rave culture to begin with. I'm most assuredly rambling here, but suffice it to say that this doc put me in my feelings a little bit and recaptured a little bit of what it was like when I first found the genre and reminded me what I loved about it initially. Anyway. Time to listen to Skream and Benga on repeat for a few days. Cheers, mate. Brilliant work.
@Yossus
@Yossus 2 жыл бұрын
Tantacrul sent me and I'm glad he did! From the perspective of a German who lived in London '11-'14, thus only experiencing the tail end of the development you described, it was really fascinating to learn more about the origins of this music. And now I want to check out, like, a solid 80% of the tracks you mentioned. I also really connected to your coda, where you talk about the musical origin story. For me, it's not dubstep, it's a cappella music. The fact that I feel I share your truth coming from such a vastly different musical direction really speaks to the profoundness of your thoughts, I think.
@mercennium
@mercennium 2 жыл бұрын
Tantacrul has to be one of the best music mfs on this site tbh
@newzey9448
@newzey9448 3 жыл бұрын
Im a huge fan of burial, didnt understand that he was a dubstep artist before i saw this video , super good video though, very interesting
@bobbyfreshour1624
@bobbyfreshour1624 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@TOO_RAW
@TOO_RAW 3 жыл бұрын
Been listening to burial for damn near a decade now
@Daniil_Ryvak
@Daniil_Ryvak 3 жыл бұрын
Huge fan and doesn’t know it’s dubstep? Fucking kek
@newzey9448
@newzey9448 3 жыл бұрын
@@Daniil_Ryvak yea ive never really cared what genre albums are associated with. I assumed Burial was garage but didn't really think about it more than that
@brainglow_lightbright
@brainglow_lightbright 3 жыл бұрын
@@newzey9448 hey good on you. I like to read up on & delve into artists that peak my interest, but I respect that you like what you like and don’t care about labels of sounds you like.
@ghosthardware8233
@ghosthardware8233 Жыл бұрын
Skrillex must have saw this video and took it personally. I never was a fan of his but I have to admit his new album is phenomenal.
@sikedup
@sikedup Жыл бұрын
u actually think he would have cared? lol i agree his music has turned more to the roots but the production quality was good back then too as it is now
@DrEdge97
@DrEdge97 Жыл бұрын
I think people forget that skrillex is incredibly talented and really appreciates and understands good music. And not simply some mindless bangarang producer
@ghosthardware8233
@ghosthardware8233 Жыл бұрын
@@DrEdge97 I always thought he was extremely talented, I just never enjoyed the music he was putting out until Quest for Fire.
@onlywithbuts1781
@onlywithbuts1781 Жыл бұрын
It's fine if people like it, but you gotta admit one album is literally filled with nothing but generic pop and the other has like 2 tracks that are somewhat interesting. How could that be phenomenal is beyond me. If anything the reason why i always liked listening to him was because i could always count on something unique yet fun, nowadays it is just all collab with this or that and they all sound the same, not similar, literally same. But yea in the end its all about what people are into. I do however think that him being mainstream is really destroying the whole "Creativity" cause mainstream music never takes risks, so i feel like he let it get to him, now everyone else is managing his music and he just does few things here and there to kinda feel as if he is in control.
@burgermind802
@burgermind802 Жыл бұрын
@Only With Buts which two tracks? I need to know so I can evaluate your opinion.
@ACoupleStoners
@ACoupleStoners 3 ай бұрын
This video is mind blowingly well produced. The writing, the research, the music, absolutely incredible.
@MayFlwr
@MayFlwr 3 жыл бұрын
growing up in America and being in middle school from 2009-2012 Skrillex was my introduction to electronic music, in the following years, I had to backtrack and find all these older tunes after the fact. Found burials music YEARS later. I have most of his tunes on vinyl and he's one of my favorite artists of all time now. Obviously this is your video but I think there is room for a duality of people who love the newer sounds and appreciate the old, I had no choice, and love both! love this video though man!
@escapefromtibet2530
@escapefromtibet2530 3 жыл бұрын
yooo funny seeing you here
@nutting2868
@nutting2868 3 жыл бұрын
Ya you're story is very similar to mine when it comes to discovering dubstep.. Started out with Skrillex, Flux Pavilion alll the mainstream guys and when I started to find what was more my sound I got sucked down a rabbit hole of all the OG DJ's in the dubstep and house scene. It made watching this video really nostalgic in such a unique way since i've kind of learned to appreciate both sounds.
@timpeterson175
@timpeterson175 3 жыл бұрын
There’s music before burial and then music after burial
@user-bv5kx3jb5n
@user-bv5kx3jb5n Жыл бұрын
I never really cared for dubstep much but something about hearing somebody talk about something theyre clearly passionate about just makes me sit and listen. I came out of this video a nice piece of history about the scene and a newfound appreciation for the genre
@copelandcory
@copelandcory 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an American and I literally only ever knew Dubstep as skrillex. I just went and listened to Burial and I almost can't believe my ears. This is really wonderful.
@voynich7825
@voynich7825 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the south pole. We have vinyl :p The dubstep scene still is around and healthy, and there are even US based labels pushing the deep sound, like "Deep, Dark & Dangerous" and "ZAMZAM Sounds". If you want any particular pointers, feel free to hit me up any time :)
@Yisus3000
@Yisus3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@voynich7825 could you post here some names to listen pls?
@Desikz
@Desikz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yisus3000 some labels killing it right now are Deep Medi Musik, Deep Dark and Dangerous, White Peach or follow some artists like Mala, Silkie, Commodo, Kahn, Truth, a good starting point is the playlist "Sub low" on spotify too
@mashkanyc
@mashkanyc 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I thought everything else except “brostep” he mentions here is called drum and bass. Maybe bc in US, dubstep as we know it here was the evolution of big room edm..
@voynich7825
@voynich7825 3 жыл бұрын
@@mashkanyc Drum and Bass usually sits at a Tempo of around 170 beats per minute, while dubstep is at around 140. If you want to find out more about drum and bass, check out Alix Perez and Skeptical :)
@LetsMarioLP
@LetsMarioLP 4 ай бұрын
Yo as I german, I've never heard of OG UK Dubstep before watching this video 3 years ago... I grew up with skrillex and really liked it, he actually started my love for electronic music back when I was 15, so he really has a special place in my heart. That said, this video is eye opening to me and I get why people tend to dislike brostep when they come from this background. I'm actually traveling to london this september and by coincidence, Digital Mystikz is playing and fuck yeah I'm going! I'm so ready to finaly expierience this music live for the first time, served directly by some of the most influencial artists there are! Came back here only to write this comment !:D
@MrGrombie
@MrGrombie 3 жыл бұрын
Give it 20 years. Everything comes back.
@grambo4436
@grambo4436 3 жыл бұрын
I hope your right! Make DJ, Club & Rave subculture great again, By bringing back it's underground analog turntablist roots. From 1970's - mid 2000's is where it peaked.
@padawansound6423
@padawansound6423 3 жыл бұрын
Man, it's back. Over the past 5 years, the Dubstep scene has become very healthy once again.
@MrGrombie
@MrGrombie 3 жыл бұрын
@@padawansound6423 Music is very incestuous if you think about it. You hear EDM in rap, you hear country in rock. Collabs happening all the time... Music is meant to flow in and out of states. It doesn't like to be defined to easily. XD
@seaofseeof
@seaofseeof 3 жыл бұрын
Drum & bass went out of fashion in the late '90s and came back soon after. It's been 10 years for dubstep, with no sign of return. Drum & bass is an established genre, a major pillar in the world of dance music. Just like techno, electro, hardcore, house, etc. Dubstep is not. It was close, but it came and went and was reduced to a micro scene for fans with very particular tastes. Can it come back, potentially? Sure. Will it? Not likely. Just like rave and UKG before it, it made way for what came after (Night Slugs, P.C. Music, etc), with no one interested in exploring new ground within it. The UKG "revival" of 2011 was like... 3 songs and Disclosure. It nevery "came back" as a cultural force or a brimming scene. And it's very possible that dubstep will not come back either. Most dubstep that will come out in the future will likely be completely self-referential. Just like modern UKG, jungle or rave tunes. Merely reminding fans of what was already said decades ago.
@padawansound6423
@padawansound6423 3 жыл бұрын
@@seaofseeof Man, as I said above, it's back and thriving as far as I'm concerned. The numbers at events pushing the "real" sound over the past few years have been very encouraging, not to mention the likes of Outlook Festival going from strength to strength. The scene really died a death in the early 2010's, but it's been clawing its way back on its own terms and has been doing particularly well again since around 2018, I would say. The last event I went to before lockdown was a Dubstep event in Leeds (ft. Shackleton, 2562, Peverelist and Kahn) and it was absolutely rammed. Trust me, it's back, brostep is just not being played in movie trailers anymore.
@jordansmith130
@jordansmith130 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT ARE YOU DOING, BRO-STEP???
@Xavier_Breaking_Bad
@Xavier_Breaking_Bad 3 жыл бұрын
😆
@naffy3327
@naffy3327 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking the scene entirely apparently
@EtamirTheDemiDeer
@EtamirTheDemiDeer 3 жыл бұрын
Wub wub
@jordansmith130
@jordansmith130 3 жыл бұрын
@@naffy3327 Dubstep was stuck in the washing machine, this was the logical course of action
@KingNexusMOCs
@KingNexusMOCs 3 жыл бұрын
Dubstep bro
@thoughtsontape4283
@thoughtsontape4283 3 жыл бұрын
As an a young American who grew up as Skrillex was blowing up, I have to say the way you describe Burial is the exact way I felt the first time discovering skrillex and zomby. I’m 18 now but @ the time I was 8-9 years old levitating to these crazy electronic beats. To this day that feeling still resonates.
@lynnadurst1429
@lynnadurst1429 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you got to hear the legends featured on the soundtrack of this vid. I loved skrillex first then moved into zomby, kode9 and found my way to burial. So many directions to go when you look into where these things come from. Hyperdub best of mixes changed shit for me.
@andresvalverde5182
@andresvalverde5182 3 жыл бұрын
Same, turning 21 in 2 Months, my mate, just 10 years old woke me up to some Dubstep (not skrillex) i still don't know what that was. I dived more into it and started listening to Skrillex at 10-13nyears old until it became edgy and i grew out of it.
@nomannershannerz5578
@nomannershannerz5578 3 жыл бұрын
naw guys, skrillex is amazing, but he's really discribing Arkasia, and not burial. visualization of emotion and feeling through your ears, it shouldnt be possible
@threeleafclover6003
@threeleafclover6003 3 жыл бұрын
Almost the same way I felt I'm nearly 16, when I found skrillex I was 8 at the time and me and my friend were playing forza horizon online with each other for the first time and we both heard cinema and to both of us it was the most alien dounding thing I'd ever heard (I was used to hearing Prince, Michael Jackson and the Arctic monkeys every now and then) it sounded liek nothing I'd ever heard before, after that me and my friend found it on KZbin and went on a skrillex binge for like 6 months it was amazing
@sibulu2878
@sibulu2878 3 жыл бұрын
U mean zomboy ?
@gabrielhill1725
@gabrielhill1725 7 ай бұрын
Whoa- just finished this one, and I wanted to thank you for such a thorough and well produced essay. It was both touching and informative- a hard balance to strike! You really transported me to a time/place/scene that I had no part in whatsoever, except for the occasional glimpse (Burial being a major touchstone for me back in the day). But I loved it the ride you took us on. Thanks so much! I look forward to following your work!
@Patricia_Taxxon
@Patricia_Taxxon 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a brostep listener/producer on occasion, I didn't really understand why the name was shared. I feel like I've gained a new understanding of the lineage, I'm thinking someone should continue the story of how the genre continued evolving after this point.
@donal6667
@donal6667 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I like your vids!
@MagneticDwarfReptile
@MagneticDwarfReptile 3 жыл бұрын
hey patricia, pls make some more topical music based videos. I know you have good taste.
@kenshin4113
@kenshin4113 3 жыл бұрын
Pat, I need a windows XP-default wallpaper-night core-AMV-Deviant Art Sonic OC type beat.
@jacksonjames6071
@jacksonjames6071 3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo. Big fan here.
@AustinSimard
@AustinSimard 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd like to know how riddim came to be.
@n8rb8
@n8rb8 3 жыл бұрын
As an American dubstep fan who got into the genre around 2010-2012, this is really cool perspective. I don't know if you've ever revisited the landscape of the genre as it is now, but I think it's back to a period of incredible diversity in my opinion. A lot of artists playing with a lot of different techniques to create that intense oppressive atmosphere that you mention. Definitely a lot of tearout influence in a lot of subgenres even today.
@inthesauce
@inthesauce 3 жыл бұрын
this
@hakonaae9636
@hakonaae9636 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations?
@n8rb8
@n8rb8 3 жыл бұрын
@@hakonaae9636 Yeah for sure. Some of my favorite artists out there right now are: Virtual Riot, Ganja White Night, bd hbt, PhaseOne. There's still a lot of influence from oldschool Tearout Dub, but there's also a lot of influence nowadays from the even older Garage styles this video touched on. This little list I gave is in my opinion a decent little slice of the scene nowadays.
@inthesauce
@inthesauce 3 жыл бұрын
@@hakonaae9636 Chibs, sasori dubs, subfiltronic, reductor, koffi, joker, aweminus, odd prophet, syzy, akeos, phiso
@RewindOfficialDoesMusic
@RewindOfficialDoesMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@n8rb8 i love simulation!!! such a good album
@scuffy-osu727
@scuffy-osu727 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting pure slander on this kind of music however you have introduced me to a genre ive only dipped my toes into once before, thank you. the editing and quality on this video is fucking nuts
@thegrandnil764
@thegrandnil764 2 жыл бұрын
I love modern dubstep, and old dubstep.
@Rob_NEWS_99
@Rob_NEWS_99 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story through the scene! Finding the little corners of the scene all over the uk and the resurgence in 140 from labels like 1985 and Critical in the last few years has been great. Especially someone who's come from dnb and found themselves loving the lower tempo stuff 🔥
@netherworldofmind7402
@netherworldofmind7402 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fabulous documentary, every genre should have this critical retrospective and you did it to this to give it justice, I will listen soon or later to all this musical history
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr..... And they wonder why broadcast television is dead
@inma5665
@inma5665 3 жыл бұрын
epicaaaaa
@altokia2724
@altokia2724 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the scene grow is the best part about new types of music.
@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043
@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043 2 жыл бұрын
I hope someone does a video like this on hardstyle, there's so much things that could be talked about that genre
@michaelgavin4045
@michaelgavin4045 3 жыл бұрын
Rusko's quote towards the end about brostep being his fault and his being in the US for too long really stuck out to me. About a decade ago, we used to have not-exactly-legal shows in a small studio space called Hour Haus, located in a rough Baltimore neighborhood. Around 2008, Rusko played there one night until the cops came at about 4 AM (I remember dragging a nitrous tank in a duffel bag out the front door right in front of them, haha). Rusko loved the space's vibe and said it reminded him of the clubs back in the UK. About 2 years later, he was playing on the same large stages as Skrillex at festivals such as Identity. I appreciate this video's perspective in that it reminded me of how as an adolescent and early adult I used to seek out sounds on the frontier of the future, and then hold a grudge once they "sold out." Now in my mid 30s, I think this kind of hate is a little silly- so what if the mainstream doesn't know what "real" dubstep is? It gives me an opportunity to educate some people on how an exploritory sound turned into pop music. After all, everything that is pop has its roots in a once obscure and exciting scene.
@mosley3485
@mosley3485 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine you're on the street busking with a little acoustic guitar. You're pouring your heart and soul into it and a few people stop to listen. You keep going and a small crowd starts to gather. Then some dude with a soundsystem shows up, dumps it down next to you and starts blasting a really shit version of the same song, completely drowning you out. Your only option is to get up and leave. The US artists basically stole the sound, ruined it and took it to a bigger audience. Our scene was literally raped, pillaged and all but erased from history. Any and all resentment is 100% justified. The artists who pioneered the sound quickly became unable to sell records or get booked to play shows. A lot of them are complete nobodies working 9-5 jobs now.
@monogramadikt5971
@monogramadikt5971 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, nah, sorry mate. prefer the non watered down version of every genre at the end of the day thanks
@mikedavidson6454
@mikedavidson6454 2 жыл бұрын
@@mosley3485 god youre so bitter and incorrect. The original dubstep sound was never going mainstream. And you can only keep a relatively underground following going for so long in a rapidly expanding scene of music. I stoll wosh there was more oldschool dubstep sounds going around. But the scene clearly evolved. Theres nothing wrong with that at all. Again you just sound bitter comparing it to rape.
@DeathSalsa
@DeathSalsa 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like thst is a fair critique. But when you're passionate about something and it warps beyond recognition, it can be hard to accept. And to feel that way is perfectly valid
@argo9721
@argo9721 6 күн бұрын
@@mosley3485 oh my God, calm down bro it's not gonna kill you lol
@dubfx
@dubfx 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work.. Festival promoters also had a hand in the change of sound.. They new dubstep was popular but didn't like it when the djs dropped tunes that people didn't rave too, so they only booked the tare out djs.. Especially because at that same time dnb was already super tearout with artists like pendulum, noisia etc..
@Avtomat
@Avtomat 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it basically comes back promoters without an understanding what a dubstep night was and how the crowds normally reacted
@ruffhouse9760
@ruffhouse9760 3 жыл бұрын
yoooo its the legend himself!!!!
@ferguspitcher7911
@ferguspitcher7911 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree, DnB is lucky because it has always been very rave oriented, high tempo and often heavy
@deeplaysit
@deeplaysit 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit man, I'm so happy to see you here. I totally agree with the dnb thing. Not that they are bad guys but the baron/Andy c/jump up biz that was happening in dnb at the time was one of the reasons dubstep spoke to me so strongly. Luckily dnb has come full circle.. Thank fuck. Much love man, I regularly show your tunes to people I meet :)
@couldntmixapotnoodle
@couldntmixapotnoodle 3 жыл бұрын
@@ferguspitcher7911 nah hold oldskool rave relying heavily on breakbeat is prettymuch dead now thanks to promoters and producers pushing for a weak wet and slippery synth sound. Thats what happened to hardcore around 1999-2000.
@interlapsed
@interlapsed 11 ай бұрын
The same thing happened to breakcore. Sewerslvt came along and made music that would fit more into ambient DNB rather than breakcore, and people from then got confused and just thought the genre was only just sad synths / sampled anime music with a breakbeat.
@Zephyrs009
@Zephyrs009 3 жыл бұрын
Y'know, as an American my first exposure to "Dubstep" was Skrillex and his schlock made me write the genre off as soulless and empty, devoid of substance or meaning. Watching this video kinda makes me feel bad for dismissing the genre so wholeheartedly
@GANO.
@GANO. 2 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful
@adamwyatt1902
@adamwyatt1902 2 жыл бұрын
Good. Cuz you should feel bad. A life changing genre is now degraded. Metal is a similar topic.
@youtubehastakenovermylife4979
@youtubehastakenovermylife4979 2 жыл бұрын
I heard dubstep for the first time when I was 24 in 2011 and I said “this stuff sucks. Like it’s a fuckin joke and will be a joke in five years”. And....
@1fault
@1fault 2 жыл бұрын
skrillex is a god
@yuxanne.
@yuxanne. 2 жыл бұрын
Hardstyle embraces the huge 50k festivals on the contrary lol, but yeah skrillex was my intro to dubstep but I grew out of him pretty quickly, after I started making music I started appreciating him again tho, sound signature was crazy for the time lol
@jaykay8144
@jaykay8144 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to hate this……..but by the end; I completely agree and I’m so glad to be able to re-enter a genre I thought I was familiar with, with a new perspective.
@hugmynutus
@hugmynutus Жыл бұрын
still remember when back in 2010/2011 people on the internet would tell you "that ain't real dubstep, this is real dubstep" then send you a link to some of the best electronic music you ever heard.
@pascha4527
@pascha4527 Жыл бұрын
yeah, happened to me. And it shaped my taste in music.
@kaeg.7800
@kaeg.7800 Жыл бұрын
those were the days 🤧
@illiciumverum6149
@illiciumverum6149 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile nowadays you'll get called an elitist gatekeeper if you do this now lmao
@HasturLaVishnu
@HasturLaVishnu Жыл бұрын
Good times
@powertrip6426
@powertrip6426 Жыл бұрын
One of my best friends went to Colorado and lived there for like 4 years during that time. He came back with a mix and fucked my whole head up. He showed me heyoka and I was confused at first, then intrigued. It definitely was not formulaic during that time imo. People were still experimenting.
@garethbarnett6389
@garethbarnett6389 Жыл бұрын
Dude I gotta thankyou personally for the introduction to Burial. I originally watched only 1/2 of this video leaving it to search YTmusic for Burial. This was about a year ago and I've been totally obsessed with Burial ever since. You see, I was there for acid house, I was there for jungle, I was there for drum n bass but by the time dubstep came along I was suddenly a father of 3 and not working in nightclubs anymore, I lost touch man. I missed it all. Now I've got Burial and all those back catalogues. Great video man 👏 👍 👌 Kids are all over 18 now so I'm off out with them now!
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