Time for a Grown-Up Discussion | Dragon Age: The Veilguard

[@georgehayabusalisk4882]

when the companies hiring developers depending on their inclusivity - diversity and not by checking their background on the gaming industry or their gaming experiences, the result will always be shit... great video man

[@niksen3300]

This is a huge point of discussion actually. It's not simply about the devs. It's about anywhere and everywhere. When you bring inclusivity in the hiring process than you are breaking the equality rules right away. It's not longer about who is more skilled to get the job. It's about who is close to skilled enough and checks all the boxes. This has IMMIDIATE effects in peoples lives. People that have worked more, sacrificed more are getting paid less or are unemployed. Why? This is not right and this is not a place where any form of DEI should be used. Ever. It's ok to have DEI in entertainment but leave it out of the hiring process. Thats why consultant agencies exist. To bring these ideas to those that cant see them.

[@MistaFiOth]

A very deep topic, perhaps for another time. Thank you for your comment and kind words, my friend.

[@JohannaTheStargazer]

You talking about this dragon age veilguard? It has mostly positive reviews and it’s one the top selling games atm, I’m not sure what game people are playing but I always see the same issue, who cares if people are lgbtq or whatever do we need to base a human being based on that? I look more into what the person is than what they like so yeah I believe what ur saying isn’t the case for this game, maybe concord cause damn they did everything wrong there but not here.

[@MistaFiOth]

@JohannaTheStargazer this is a very niche point of view and I'm glad we have community members who can find value in the approach. Even if the way things are done is not to everyone's liking, perhaps it'd be good to take a moment and acknowledge that for some people, this is something positive.

[@uuddlrlrbas9904]

Time to have an adult talk about this "adult" discussion, first problem here is you are strawmanning the opposing views and steelmanning the view you agree with. Second problem and the more egregious one is the middle of dei, the equity, equity is stealing from a third party to pay the second party for the pre-supposed sins of the long gone first party. No one is against diversity, especially diversity of thought; but they don't want different opinions. No one is against inclusion, no one is saying this is only for me, again only they say "straight white men need not apply" "male and pale is stale". It's the equity that's the problem, people saying I deserve your money because you have more than me. Diversity, Inclusion No one has any problems with unforced, natural efforts there. It's the equity, the demand that somehow a person just existing and being successful owes them something. They are wrong, they are owed nothing but the results of their own labor.

[@MistaFiOth]

Why do you think I'm against what you are saying here?

[@RussellMiller-i5h]

@@MistaFiOth Because you make the argument in your video that you would be against what he is saying here. You plainly said that anyone that has a problem with "DEI" is wrong. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3WlYWCAj7llb6s I have an issue with the letters because of how they have been used. Clearly, no one should be against diversity, no one should be against inclusion, the massive problem is in the middle. Equality focuses on providing everyone with the same resources or opportunities, assuming that the same treatment will yield the same outcomes. It’s about uniformity - everyone gets the same support or tools, regardless of their starting point. Equity, on the other hand, is about achieving fairness by acknowledging and addressing different needs, obstacles, and starting points. The goal of equity is to achieve similar outcomes by providing varying levels of support based on individual circumstances. Rather than treating everyone the same, equity means adjusting resources to allow everyone to reach a similar level of success or access.

[@MistaFiOth]

"Clearly, no one should be against diversity, no one should be against inclusion" your words, correct? Well, many ARE. That's what I am focusing on. The malice and negativity towards groups, because shifting the established balance activates a specific list of adjectives in their brains. You honestly think it's all fine and dandy as long as "fairness" is exercised? There is a TON of racism and bigotry out there, man. I believe we live on the same planet.

[@uuddlrlrbas9904]

@@MistaFiOth so your position is that we must force people to think and act a certain way? Diversity and Inclusion are a removing of obstacles, by preventing exclusionary rules, like for example two kinds of drinking fountains, or certain kinds of people riding in the back of the bus you allow Diversity and Inclusion which through allowing people to meet and interact lowers racism and encourages natural acceptance. It's Equity that's the problem, force equal outcomes, but you can't bring everyone up to maximum level so instead you drag everyone down to the bottom. Give everyone the same starting point and they will live up or down to their potential force the same outcome and you have to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

[@MistaFiOth]

Why does there have to be a "must"? You can obviously articulate an opinion, why do you think I am against what you are saying? My stance is against bigotry, against masquerading hatred as "protecting our rights". Do you think that everyone crusading against social progress is a pure dove, full of Love and acceptance? Come on man.

[@propervill]

Because we are sick of lies being shoved down our throat and being talked down to.

[@MistaFiOth]

By whom?

[@propervill]

@ corporate media PC culture.

[@MistaFiOth]

So, your dislike about all this stems from a reactionary response?

[@propervill]

@@MistaFiOth you say that like any response is non reactionary. 🤦🏻‍♂️ A response is a reaction by its nature.

[@MistaFiOth]

@propervill I am talking about how you handle the events you described, not about how you manage the conversation.

[@MM-cb3jx]

Fioth my friend, i get your point and mostly i agree with you. But i can only ask one thing: if there is a game that has as much conservative topic points in it, would it be allowed the same approach as this one gets? If the answer is "No" than it is too much of ANY direction, left OR right. I am a centrist for a reason, extremes only generate hatred.

[@MistaFiOth]

Extremes are problematic indeed, but since you ask about this kind of content, would you enjoy a game where the main character is a male person forcing his family to behave the way he - as the patriarch - demanded? Would that be considered productive, or interesting, in any way?

[@MM-cb3jx]

@@MistaFiOth I agree, as to much progressive is as bad as to much conservative as I explained in my post. Imagine a game in a medieval setting but with no feudal structure or patriarchs. It wouldn’t work at all to answer your question.

[@MistaFiOth]

@MM-cb3jx here we are dealing with a fantasy setting though. If one can stomach dragons and undead, why can't they stand gender-fluidity? It's simply what we're used to. And what we're used to is tied to a very specific, very old way of perceiving each individual's place in the world. We can do better.

[@wakifilms2592]

​@@MistaFiOth I think its not a main problem with diversity or whole woke agenda. The main problem is that dialogues and quests in new dragon age are cringe and terrible. Its destroying immersion of the world. The main problem with woke to me is the fact that they are focused only on them, they wanna be free, they wanna do whatever they want whenever they want, just like a child. People with no serious problems in life are not able to create interesting dialogue, quests etc. People with no real problems are boring and shallow, we are made to struggle. Thats why every woke game like star wars outlaws, new dragon age are cringe, because I feel like they are treating me like i am handicaped

[@MistaFiOth]

Those are all valid points and I understand where you come from. As I stated in the video, the writing in these titles is where their essence lies, and they seem to have shat the bed in that regard.

[@castoriusgr9379]

Great video as usual! I'd love to hear your honest opinion on whether the game is genuinely good, feels forced, or is more of a blockbuster caricature. There’s so much diversity in the reviews that I'm unsure if it’s worth the time to play. At first glance, the audio and visuals seem tempting.

[@MistaFiOth]

I delved deep enough to be able to relay to you that it feels childish. The lack of any attempt at tension, the simplification of its systems, the over reliance on flashiness to hide the shallowness. Writing is thin, arguably the most important aspect in any RPG. I won't be giving it any more time, but as an avid RPG enjoyer, I wouldn't recommend it.

[@argophontes]

I think the biggest source of this issue is what some refer to as "rainbow capitalism", where a corp is putting on a diversity mask for the sake of maximum exposure to the largest possible customer base, and unfortunately a lot of people conflate this with actual social justice movements that just want to see everyone represented without worrying about being targeted. This winds up with the people that are pushing back against these things seeing the cynical box-checking and thinking it's the same source as the people actually trying to build inclusivity. The most frustrating thing about all of this is that the algorithm for platforms like YT are practically designed to feed negativity and drama, which makes it incredibly easy to wind up down a rabbit-hole of bigotry, which is just accelerating the whole process and putting more obstacles in the way of dialogue.

[@MistaFiOth]

I think this is one of my favourite comments ever. Have you been following my work before this video, friend?

[@argophontes]

@@MistaFiOth I've seen a few, Remnant II and a co-op suggestion video come to mind. Most of the games you cover aren't really my thing, but this one earned a subscribe so I can at least keep checking in.

[@MistaFiOth]

Well, thank you for the vote of confidence! I'd love to see you in one of my stream chats, you have a good head on your shoulders! Again, thank you for the great comment and have an excellent one!

[@Blameitongeorg3]

A great opinion piece,well thought and well articulated Fioth always a pleasure watching one of your videos!!

[@MistaFiOth]

Thank you, brother, you honor me!

[@tassosm.4790]

A video about DA that, at its core, isn’t directly related to DA, but by watching it, you’ll gain a deeper understanding of DA and more. 👌 ❤ I work in the corporate world, and I believe DEI initiatives might create more challenges than they solve. In many cases, we end up evaluating people as numbers - deciding how many Black, white, trans, etc., employees we need, rather than focusing on genuine inclusivity. Inclusivity is about emotions, not numbers; it’s about how you feel about others, not just the demographic group they belong to. And that’s my state of mind as well, I need more good people around me; I do not care what they do in their beds or what their skin color is, I just need them to be nice towards me and other people.

[@MistaFiOth]

It's a difficult balance to keep, I understand. The criteria (and reasons behind) the hiring process is a huge discussion that warrants its own time in the spotlight. I am thankful there are people in this community who can see the larger picture. Thank you for your input!

[@kapnkarhoonch5497]

Good to see you do a video on this. Me personally I understand both sides of the argument but what I am personally enjoying is fulfilling my Gray Warden fantasy that I've been missing since DA:O and I enjoy all the unique interactions specifically for Gray Wardens. But again I do understand both sides of this argument but at the end of the day I enjoy what I enjoy about it and it's enough for me and that's all that matters, I hope those who do enjoy it keep enjoying it and those who don't enjoy it I hope you have a good time playing games you do enjoy and I hope everyone has a wonderful day.

[@MistaFiOth]

A very peaceful approach to the argument. Glad you are enjoying and happy to see more level-headed comments on the matter. Thank you for the time invested into watching my work, my friend.

[@gkampanis]

Listen to him guys .... Well said , we love all people do not force anything .... 100000000 % accurate !!!!!!!!!!!

[@MistaFiOth]

Thank you my brother! Hope you are well!

[@V3rciS]

Hey there my old friend. Nice video as always. I’d love to see more of those ❤. My only comment is: Yes representation is good when it feels genuine and justifiable based on the context. Unfortunately on the other hand when it is being shovelled down your throat, be it Veilguard or Rings of Power or whatever other monstrosity. People will respond and sometimes, yes, with bigotry. No one is against “purple dyeing hair” people. Create a product aimed at them. Don’t turn our favourite franchises into your experimental Frankenstein.

[@MistaFiOth]

Hey hey hey! Long time no see! I think Disney is the champion of "take what already exists and F it up!".

[@dncbot]

It's not about the people, it's about the ideology. You can dislike bad ideas without disliking the people suffering from them. Also it's about the implementation, breaking the flow to insert an ideological based lecture.

[@MistaFiOth]

Art is about expressing one's ideas, intrinsically. The issue lies in the quality of said work and the means by which you express yourself. Sadly, we are way out of balance.

[@derilas]

Hi, My take: - I am fine with representation of different groups in media and art. - with that say, I am not a target audience, for same reasons why I don't watch gy prn. I don't mind it exist, it just not something that interest me. So yeh... I will defend your right to create any art you like. I will not buy it if I don't feel its for me. - To my knowledge - you can chose to take or not take Taash into your party. So it sounds fine with me. As long as its not force fed - its fine. Why I refunded game : - Character creator is not inclusive. (does not matter that much...) - Gameplay is boring. (deal breaker...) - Dialogue is weak. (deal breaker) - Life is too short, there are better games out there. Thanks for video. Good day.

[@MistaFiOth]

An honest, healthy take if I've ever seen one. That's exactly the kind of dialogue I am trying to promote here: Critical thinking, true-to-self commentary. I hope you stick around for more, derilas.

[@marioccoprey9177]

Το τσιμπησα day 1 απο steam εχω παιξει κανα 20ωρο. Θετικα 1 Γραφικα 2 Περιβαλλον 3 Level design 4 Τεχνικος τομεας Αρνητικα 1 Καμια αλληλεπιδραση με τα npc 2 Γραψιμο διαλογοι rpg επιλογες για τα μπαζα 3 Γριφοι .ελπιζω προχωρωντας να αλλαξω γνωμη.δεν το βλεπω γιατι το κομματι του ρολου για μενα ειναι καιριο σε τετοια παιχνιδια ΥΓ:το combat δεν μπορω να το βαλω ουτε στα θετικα ουτε στα αρνητικα γιατι για αλλους γινεται repetitive μετα απο καποιες ωρες και για αλλους γινεται καλο μετα την μεση που ανοιγουν τα skills

[@MistaFiOth]

Good points my man!

[@ciscoytube5352]

FiOth, I really appreciate the frank talk and discussion. I think that if the video games industry wants to be taken seriously, both gamers and developers need to mature. It's clear from DA:V that developers have not found the right balance between incorporating these themes and force feeding them to us. Your analogy to the "gag reflex" is perfect and on point. They're not getting it. (my 2 cents: I think this is because they're trying too hard to tap a wider market and are doing a piss poor job of doing it - they're driven by cash grab and not genuine desire for inclusivity) But let's be honest with ourselves, gamers are not maturing either. Game Reddit, KZbin, and Twitter sites are super toxic. They don't do much to challenge the stereotype of "unemployed and living in mom's basement." Just from a quick look at some of the comments left on here: you have one guy mistaking diversity and inclusion with affirmative action; a bunch of anti-corporate folks who don't trust any developer that employs more than 5 people; and a few conspiracy theorists that think this is all indoctrination. Not a great look. And your viewers aren't even that bad compared to the rampant hate you see on other channels. Your well-reasoned call for calm and sanity is just going to go straight over their heads. With Developers, I just think it's going to take time. Eventually, they'll figure out how to reach different markets and stop forcing the one-size-fits-all philosophy. It's already happening to some extent with some games targeting female gamers. Money drives them. Money will lead them to their target demographic. But with gamers... bro, I just don't see it getting better. The internet has no guard-rails. Just a mad-max-esque wasteland of tiki torch wielding cannibals out there. Until these sites seriously, and I mean seriously, start policing the comments and are held accountable for the hate mongering, I don't see the community changing. The loudest and angriest voice will continue to win out and drown all others. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic. But I'm finding it hard to be pragmatic and impossible to be optimistic this morning. Thanks again for this gem of a video. Well done.

[@MistaFiOth]

C, you've been around for a long time and I've always thought you were one of the good ones. Today the bar was raised. Thank you for your level-headed approach to this and for the analytical approach. Sadly, you are correct: The internet is a cesspit of vomit for the most part, proof that without regulation, the masses are always on a witch hunt. I will try to keep this side of it clear though, so we can have productive discussions. Thanks for being here, stay safe.

[@pagan.majere]

You can have DEI in any game. But you should have the option not to use it. Not forced HE/HIM no give me the option for NO Pronouns, Simple. Dialogs should not forced as you said. I have many dear friends of all sexualities. They are over it. It sends acceptance to the other direction. Sexuality is a private choice. I don't do around boasting of my sexual exploits or preference.. It is taken from how I act as a person. Dialog was so forced and even immersion breaking.. Try to make a bald handsome man.. nope.. no bald... So my Inquisition character was not brought into the game... Play as a Mage... get into a brawl in the first scene using no Magic.. Lazy writing. Long gone is the choices you had in Origins... BG3 is a good example of going it right (well after they patched it as on launch you could choose a seemingly friendly option and then start kissing the mage... lol). Still it was fine as the writing was so high level.. it was not immersion breaking

[@MistaFiOth]

Thank you for the comment, my friend. I don't think that them making every part of their game customizable is a feasible option. Ultimately, if that's what some people in the company wanted to make, it's their production and they will deal with the outcome. I agree about the writing, 100%. Simplistic and childish, from what I've seen.

[@justaguyfromeurope]

Very few people have a problem with inclusivity, either in games, or the workplace. What most people have a problem with is the BlackRock-funded type of inclusivity in both.

[@MistaFiOth]

I agree about funded practices, 100%. You believe this is the case here?

[@justaguyfromeurope]

@@MistaFiOth At BioWare? Not that I believe it, it's common knowledge for a lot of people who follow the industry and/or have friends within it. Besides ESG funding from BlackRock, there's also governmental incentives revolving around ESG for businesses within Alberta, CA. Incentives that BioWare is taking full advantage of -- think tax breaks & the sort. Also, there's a reason that senior staff bled out of the company during the last decade, and why writers like Lukas Kristjanson were finally let go -- he's known for being a more "no bs" kind of human who tends to speak his mind. Mind you, I'm not a huge fan of all of Lukas' work, as I do think he wrote some duds over the years, but he did manage to survive in that environment for the last 10 years, ending a stint of 27 years at the studio.

[@MistaFiOth]

I don't doubt any of the above, but what is, in your opinion, the incentive behind all this? Why would a multi-billion conglomerate go into so much trouble to push such an objective?

[@Zohrdan]

I believe that Dragon Age: Veilguard is a remarkable piece of art, particularly for rejecting its own lore terminology to honor Taash's identity-a move I applaud BioWare for. However, I criticize them for not making an effort to explain how this contemporary terminology was introduced into the world of Dragon Age. Had they taken the time to explain how these terms came to exist within the lore, their statements might have found a more receptive audience. Also it stopped being a video game by putting the message first and the world of Dragon Age second.

[@MistaFiOth]

This is exactly the kind of comment I was hoping for: Reasons for appreciating or rejecting an approach, not blind rage. I salute you, my good sir.

[@valegdynos]

I love your point of view. Thank you for this video.

[@MistaFiOth]

Thank you for all the Love and support, my brother!

[@S3n1or_Smurf]

This is new....fast stream tonight 🎉

[@MistaFiOth]

Stream will happen the usual hour my man. This is a Premiere!

[@whiskeyearned1543]

If you build a house on a foundation of sand, I don't care how nice the bathroom fixtures are. Tear it down.

[@MistaFiOth]

You think that their previous works were built on weak foundations?

[@whiskeyearned1543]

@@MistaFiOth No, the previous games were made for gamers. Activism is the foundation of this game.

[@MistaFiOth]

So they wanted to push something above wanting to make the game, in your opinion?

[@whiskeyearned1543]

​@@MistaFiOth Correct. The game and the enjoyment of the established fanbase were not the primary driving factors.

[@MistaFiOth]

You know it's been in development for 10 years though, way before any of this talk was prominent.

[@noctoi]

Gods I want to like this vid more than once. (Edited because I hit the wrong button when typing) I would like to qualify some points from a personal perspective though... a LOT of the queer community in gaming really dislike the "representation" in this game. It's not representative, it's exclusive rather than inclusive, and the devs and writers broke canon to insert extremist views. Even minority groups can be extremists, and this game crosses that line. I'm queer and nonbinary, and this game makes me extremely uncomfortable. It's even insulting in places. So, like you said, I'm not buying it and I'll probably skip any future bioware games. It's heart breaking because I have been a BioWare customer since BG1. What's pissing me off SO strongly is the devs of this game are being just as bad as the right wing assholes. People who just want to play a good game with as many choices as possible are being abused and doxed from BOTH sides. We're getting insane levels of vitriol from BOTH sides. The Devs flat out said they don't WANT us as customers - which is wild because I'm pretty much the professed "target market" being several letters in the rainbow and a prolific CRPG player who's got physical special ed copies of ALL previous DA games. My problem isn't the inclusion, it's the lies. There IS no 'inclusion' it's all lip service and window dressing. They're using vulnerable communities as rage bait fodder for $$ and then gaslighting those same people. That's not even getting into the gross retconning, the YEARS of unpaid labour under NDA of the most fanatical people in the DA fandom, the falsifying of data and the fact that the Devs have actively encouraged dog piling and name calling across several social media platforms, against anyone who offers the slightest whiff of criticism. I adore DA, but I hate this game from so many angles and perspectives it's dizzying. They have made a mockery of the struggles of countless queer and nonbinary people and simultaneously painted a target on our heads. Yes, minorities want representation - BUT - it needs to be genuine, ACTUALLY inclusive, and MOST importantly it needs to be lore appropriate and written as part of the furniture. The SECOND the writers make it a statement, it goes from being inclusive to being harmful both to the people they profess to represent and to the wider gaming community.

[@MistaFiOth]

Thank you SO much for this comment, noctoi. It complements both my own views and the discussion fantastically. I hope you stick around for future conversations like this. Keep your head cool, stay safe and hope you find an alternative in the RPG space to enjoy soon!

[@noctoi]

@@MistaFiOth Already subbed man, thank you. The one good thing that's come from all the chaos surrounding this game, is that I've found a few creators who are genuinely lovely, logical people who recognise the collateral damage from all this rage bait. I really appreciated your thoughts.

[@MistaFiOth]

@noctoi and I your kindness and positivity. Feels good (and hopeful) to see people behave like homo sapiens online. A rare sight, indeed.

[@livaveragegamer]

I think your heart is in the right place, but I also think your position stops you from putting together consistent thoughts. I'm paraphrasing a bit E.g. "bioware has always been progressive" - "It's not the same bioware" but then you assert that it would continue along the same path and somehow also become more radical as if it's just natural. Another example, "If you have a problem with the letters DEI you are a bigot"-"the problem is when it's not handled correctly like in the very example people are complaining about" it makes it seem like you are purposely misunderstanding what people are saying (mostly exactly what you said) and instead focusing on what you think people think based on a few bad experiences you had on stream.

[@MistaFiOth]

The stream reference at the start has to do with the fact that people make mentions of a delicate subject during situations where answering and expanding on them is difficult. My statements try to cover both sides of the equations, something that can lead to easy misinterpretation. The characteristics I mention are not mutually exclusive. It's a company that always tried to present more multilayered characters, but at this point in its existence it simply doesn't have the creative talent to pull it off. Does this make it more clear?

[@userunknown2235]

Honest truth brother! very good video!

[@MistaFiOth]

Thank you, my friend. I hope I got my point across effectively.

[@esmolol4091]

I wonder if we will see fioth play veilguard now on stream...

[@MistaFiOth]

Now you are reaching for low-hanging fruit!

[@esmolol4091]

​@@MistaFiOth😂

[@rustyshackleford1062]

Nepotism and discrimination is wrong no matter who benefits and who is discriminated against. And no matter how you coach the actions in positive sounding justifications to make people agree with you on a surface level.

[@MistaFiOth]

I don't see why you'd think I'm against what you are saying.

[@armyofray8096]

I just don't know if I can be annoyed with people who get put off by the gay stuff...cause the developers made the choice..

[@Akritis_82]

I couldn´t care less for DEI. I look at the merits of the person not race/gender etc. Veilguard´s writing is basic at best, trying not to offend anyone has affected the quality of the story. It is the first Bioware RPG where you the player cannot roleplay as an evil character. Skillup (who I trust as a reviewer and not an incel crybaby) said it best: it feels like HR is in the room with you. On top of that your teamates don`t even have health bars, ie they cannot be targeted by the enemies!

[@MistaFiOth]

The healthiest approach. Thank you, my man. Appreciate your level-headed take in all of this.

[@codyj6505]

@Akritis_82 why are u lying? 35 hours in and my companions can be targeted. in fact warriors have a taunt ability to take aggro. they're not targeted as much as i am, but idk why ppl keep spreading the misinformation abt them not being targetable.

[@Akritis_82]

@They cannot be killed/downed, they have no health bars. This is a serious downgrade in comparison to previous Dragon Age games where you could even control other teamates (Cassandra did carry half my Dragon fights tbh).

[@WebsterMk4]

You are categorically wrong when you say we can not allow anyone to be offended. Taking offence is entirely subjective, furthermore it is everyone right to take offence. if you find something offensive then exercise your right to be offended but trying to control other peoples expression under the guise of taking offence leads society down a very dark path. On a more personal level i don't understand the modern obsession with assuming people can only relate to characters that look or are labeled like themselves. Isn't the point of great writing to transport you to a characters mind state and enable you empathize with them however far removed from them you are? I don't remember watching Alien as a kid and thinking i don't like Ripley she doesn't look like me, I remember thing wow Ripley is cool shes bad ass. I think this fixation on dividing people into different groups or labels just reinforces prejudices.

[@MistaFiOth]

I'm with you 100%, I did not say I agree with the "don't allow anyone to get offended" approach, I merely mention that in this day and age it happens a lot.

[@WebsterMk4]

@MistaFiOth oh I must have misunderstood you on that then, my bad. We should all be pushing back against it politely where ever it appears.

[@MistaFiOth]

"Politely" seems highly improbable in today's climate, doesn't it?

[@WebsterMk4]

@@MistaFiOth unlikely but not impossible. It's up to individuals to choose how they behave.

[@MistaFiOth]

@WebsterMk4 exactly. Personal choice as well as responsibility. Let's promote that. Thank you for your constructive comments. Hope you stick around for more discussions in the future.

[@niksen3300]

You earned a sub. its like you said out loud everything that i had in my head. DEI is an absolute must today. I am saying this a straight 35 years old half greek/half egyptian. Since my color is not pure white, i am on the brownish side i get it. I felt racism. I got bullied while i grew up. Its not the same as sexual orientation though. I also grew up in a time where when we wanted to make a boy feel bad or make apparent that he did something stupid we always called it "gay". I then got into a releationship with a lesbian. And i stopped using that. Why all of this opening? Because if anything i consider myself progressive. I have my limits though. I can accept sexual orientation(gay, lesbians, bi, trans, crossdresser you name it) but i am totally against the "i identify as" and non binary stuff. To me this is serving nothing but get attention. Dress up as you wish, do whatever you like in your bed and marry anyone you want that makes you feel good. This is a whole other discussion though and it remains my own personal opinion which i do not try to enforce to anybody else. Just speaking out loud. Now we come to the release of Veilguard. We have added things like top scars in a character creator. This could have been a scar option that a person that vibes with it is gonna recognize it and use it. But we made is a tickbox. We have pronouns, which as i said above i disagree with, but i can oversee. All male characters look feminine and all female characters look... bad. It all boils down to this: We have turned inclusion to exclusion. Being a masculine good lookin man is impossible. Being a pretty woman with natural breasts is impossible. Since you already done your research and it shows, you should already know that these groups have gone into an outrage against white men and pretty women. The fight to push inclusion has now become a fight against certain demographics. It does not matter if you are progressive or if you support them. You are either one of them or you are not. Pretty binary stuff right there, ironic isn't it? And what has this led to? A game that first and foremost cares to deliver its message across and forget about anything that makes a good rpg. Companions are annoying, puzzles are made for 4 year old kids in an M rated game, combat is just blockbuster flashy stuff with zero depth, dialogue does not allow you to be mean or rude or bad, story telling has been gutted and finally all the non binary forced stuff. We also already know how the hiring processes are these days. People that deserve positions do not get them so HR can hire those that make the checklist. Promotions are being given to all the wrong people just because they use the correct pronoun or have the right color. There are already TONS of stories about this. Like the black female lead that only hires non-white people because white people are bad. Promotions at Bioware being pushed to people that did not deserve it but had the fitting mindset. CDPR offering internships to females only and men that identify as females. The last one is the definition of exclusion and racism in a day where progression is pushed around. All of this is now pushing me from a pretty progressive person that tries to even accept the non binary stuff to the other side. As much as i want to stand with them and support them, all they do is basically rage political war against me and lately ruin all forms of entertainment. I will never forget a memo in suicide squad(yeah i am one of the 100 players this game has) where Lex talks about the amazons and says "i wonder what the world would look like if toxic musculinity did not push them away" or something like that. Toxic musculinity? Is that how we are inclusive and progressive? This is clearly an attack. What would be wrong about this game if all the trans and non binary stuff were left behind options in the game? In every DA game we had similar things. In inquisition there even was a female that identified as a male and it was even intergrated in the Qunari story. But it was never forced to you. Having more options is always good. Being forced stuff and feeling excluded is not.

[@MistaFiOth]

What you've been saying shows exactly the kind of climate that's been cultivated through all this practices - bitterness and a sense of living in an unfair environment. I understand what you are saying, and since you can think for yourself, I suggest this: Divide the idea from the practice. The practice comes from people who would see "others" lose their ability to express themselves. The ideas themselves, however, CAN be pure. Adhere to the ideas and ideals. Those who poison them won't be around forever.

[@kleio123]

Good work nice insight❤

[@MistaFiOth]

Thank you sweetie!

[@REAPERGAMINGGR]

I can't understand how people decide if a game is worthwhile because of what they consider as lower life forms. First and foremost it's not odd for any sexual orientation, religion or colour to be included in game as they're also part of every day community. Hating on a game so much just because it's inclusive feels kind of like a big joke to me. And people who call it forced have actually not played the game obviously. I've played it for about 40+ hours and aside the fact i think many of the so called "independent" reviewers have lost touch for some odd reason there is literally only 2 maybe 3 wrong things lore wise with the game. The Trans character is actually very subtly introduced and yes his/her issues are discussed openly but not in a very forced way. Taash speaks more open about feeling trapped in his/her body and the dialogue around it is really strong actually. The only issue is that he/she has grown into a conventional family environment even though it's well known through DA lore Qunaris are taken by their family as children and raised under a matriarchal military school of sorts. And the game is definitely better than what people give it credit for. As a fan of DA all theu way through Origins i mudt say it's a great addition even with some changes i can understand people disliking. And dialogue gets continuously better the deeper you get into the game. It's not as good as all the other games sure but it's not bad or sub par. It's just more calm. It's a different take, maybe not as successful but it's good. And there is a lot more good about the game. People have been negatively biased for years about Dreadwolf/The Veilguard.

[@MistaFiOth]

Well, if you are happy with it, more power to you. As you can probably understand, this video was created in order to have a more calm discussion about the outrage. Not sure if it succeeded, but I gave it a go nonetheless.

[@REAPERGAMINGGR]

@MistaFiOth unfortunately i think the majority of people, especially gamers are unable to have a civilised conversation especially on more mature themes. I'm still wondering if those who argue understand what you are saying or just feel offended being told it's okay to not be the norm....

[@MistaFiOth]

I'm pretty sure they stopped at around 4' and started typing, furiously. It's OK. You can force anyone to converse. Hope you stick around for more though!

[@REAPERGAMINGGR]

@@MistaFiOth You can't force anyone true but also not discussing is what probably will lead to even more games like the Veilguard so it's their problem not mine. I'm fine with both the so called wokeness and the games so I'm chilling

[@MistaFiOth]

Zenning through the noise is the best way to go about it, my friend.

[@danielriberio1767]

so you can ignore ea trying to sell a bad game like is gold and you can ignore being forced to hear the "agenda".. your problem is people getting mad for it, sure that makes sense

[@MistaFiOth]

You didn't hear what I had to say, so there's nothing to discuss.

[@danielriberio1767]

@MistaFiOth i did, bioware was always progressive and people still love.. that came out of your mouth but the problem is still racism and stuff

[@KirinDave]

Thanks for saying it. I really wish folks would listen to their own advice when tabohtalk about Wukong or w/e and say you shouldn't blame the game for the lead dev's crazy comments, and then go on to say "btw veilguard is woke we downvote woke games and they're bad."

[@MistaFiOth]

Double standards are the bread and butter of the media space. We can do better. Thank you for watching with a critical eye. I want as many people like you as possible in this community.

[@DK78831]

I think in SIMS you could marry any gender you wanted..make out with anyone and adapt kids. So what all this mess abour DA VG?

[@niksen3300]

1) Sims offered a great game first, message after 2) Nothing was forced into you

[@DK78831]

@niksen3300 yeah of course it was a great game. And it was 20 years ago. There wasnt any noise back then.

[@niksen3300]

@@DK78831 First i got to agree with you are saying. If it came today there would be hate comments and anti-woke videos up 100%. But even with todays noise, my point still stands. Sims was a game first, message second production that embraces this kind of options. DA is not. But did you setup your comment in a way to trap people though? I hope you understand that this speaks volumes for your intention when you make a genuine question that leads with a completely based answer.

[@DK78831]

@@niksen3300 man i dont understand what u mean by dtrapping. I am no predator abd all people here are adults. No worries. It was just a thought.

[@MistaFiOth]

I really have zero experience with the SIMS franchise, so I can't add much to this conversation I'm afraid.

[@gaita8991]

Fioth κανε 10 push ups 😂

[@MistaFiOth]

Πίσω στα στρατά!

[@Cavethug]

Here's the fact. This game, and the games that follow the same path, are not made for you. It's not intended to be entertainment, it's intended to be indoctrination. That's just a fact. Personally I don't care. Not saying it shouldn't or can't be made, not my place. What I know is that it's not for me, not made for me, the people who made it absolutely despise people like me. People like me don't want woke dei garbage in the games they play. We play games to get away from that crap, it's called escapism. There is no escapism in this game. It forces you to deal with the same garbage that these same people throw in your face as often as they can in the real world. The reason people have such a huge problem with this is pretty simple. All of this woke DIE garbage takes from something. All the dialogue, all the writing, could have been another quest, or story line, all the character modeling could have been actual decent content. Instead, you get a game aimed at appeasing 5% of the population, ironically it's the same 5% of the population that isn't going to buy their game anyway. It would be like a musician focusing on making music for deaf people, or a painter making art aimed at blind people. It's so mind numbingly idiotic that it just defies common sense. The end result is pissing off the 95% of your prospective audience, because you've made it crystal clear you don't care what gamers actually want, and even if you did, you refuse to give it to them. The really sad thing..... these people act as though they're in a cult. They can't fail enough or lose enough money to actually wake up. They've taken over big studios and gotten their diseased claws into formerly beloved IPs and they won't stop until both are completely destroyed.

[@MistaFiOth]

Sad that you think that there is no healthy way to approach social issues, but to each their own. At least you watched the video and took the time to state your point of view. I appreciate that.

[@dustin1308]

@@MistaFiOth I completely agree with that person as well but honestly can you blame us for thinking like that? The people who push and force DEI so hard are probably one of the most racist people i have ever seen just look at Sweet Baby Inc and their tactics "terrify them so they comply to our ideologies" this is beyond sickening not to mention the work environments that people talk about now where you clearly are suppressed for being a straight white male. and regards "we try to no to offend anyone or not make anyone uncomfortable" honestly i feel very uncomfortable seeing almost every woman looking like a muscular guy. and lately they love to portrait us as whiny and annoying while this is literal force feeding propaganda to us. So we should rather shut up accept everything blindly and be ignorant to what is actually happening right now? I will never support games that go this route and think pushing out a message is more important than anything else. I would never go after trans people who just want to live their life, but i also will not stand by while being told what i have to think or like. All that just because a very small portion of our population is confused in their head.

[@MistaFiOth]

@dustin1308 you seem to feel more threatened than hating, so I can sympathise, to an extent. It doesn't have to be a blanket statement, where you accept everything or reject everything. That's why the word nuance comes into play so often in the video. I hope you watched it in its entirety.

[@dustin1308]

​@@MistaFiOth I did and i agree at least to that regard that people should not be excluded just for the sake of it the same as people should not be included just for the sake of it if it makes absolutely no sense. The situation in the gaming industry is very dire at the moment and it seems to get a lot worse. A neutral position is in my opinion not possible to have at this point But i will tell you this if all of this drama happened with Baldurs Gate 3 even though the game itself is really well done and shows that it cares about it's players then i can understand that this complete outcry would be too much. That still doesn't mean i like it, but i would tolerate it at least.

[@MistaFiOth]

@dustin1308 BGIII was much richer in content and included literally all kinds of characters, without pushing anything. No reason to think anyone would have a reason to be annoyed by it.

[@gonzalomartinez6219]

The problem is in the videogaming communities we are experiencing the same that is happening in all the other parts of our lives: politics, social networks, media, clickbait streamers, conspirative nuts, etc, people who vote to morons like Trump, Milei, Melloni, brexiteers, Bolsonaro and all the other ultra right wing politicians in Europe are also gaming and trying to force their politics in our games while they whine about deverlopers trying to be inclusive and talk about real world politics: women like sexbots, gays and trans inside the closet, etc, etc, etc. I am so fed up with the anti-woke crowd, they are annoying AF. This said I won't buy Dragon Age the Veilguard, I don't like the pixar esthetic and I don't think I will like the writing, the watered down story, a fun light RPG for everybody with fancy combat but not too much depth. But I am not really a big fan of the Dragon Age franchise, I only liked Inquisition. I am a Mass Effect fanboy, I hope they don't screw that up.

[@MistaFiOth]

I LOVE this comment, man. I totally agree. The saddest part is that the people who supposedly rally for human rights, end up being more forceful than they clear-cut conservatives. You can't FORCE people to see things progressively, you have to cultivate. Corpos - who want clicks and money above everything else - won't go that way, ofc. They are pushing for division and clashing between parts of the community. In the end, they get free marketing and fanaticism. Doesn't look good for anyone. The issue is a hydra: You cut one head only to find another spawn from the wound. I think it's going to get much worse before it gets better.

[@brandonpoole1670]

Well spoken! I believe in live & let live, to each their own, and the golden rule of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. However, it is annoying when society’s culture wars bleed into certain art & entertainment intended to provide an escape from subjective reality. Be it a galaxy far, far away or a fantastical game world, there should be outlets where we can ALL escape from the noise. It’s tiring when everything is politicized. Sign of the times I guess! These catch-all “dirty words” like woke and DEI that the right loves to shout about are products of their own making, by being hateful and bigoted for years & years to sub-sections of society. Conservatives created the controversy and the more they continue to whine and belittle, the more pushback there will be. It’s like the snake eating its own tail. At the end of the day, nobody is being forced to play a game. These social media bandwagon crybabies who intentionally tank a game’s rating simply because they’re butthurt over fairly inconsequential issues are a joke anyway. Peace! ✌️

[@MistaFiOth]

Fantastic take brother. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts. Love having the chance to converse on an adult level online, an occasion that's getting rarer and rarer these days. Cheers!

[@reignmans]

The best thing about this game, is the optimization... which should be a given considering the game has been in development for almost 10 years. Level design and set pieces are looking great, lighting is also pretty good. Combat is okay-ish, tried to mimic god of war, but nothing to write home about when all you gotta do is basically roll your face on the keyboard and keep moving forward. Character creation is OVERBLOWN. The only good thing in the character creation is the head part where you can actually make unique faces according to your likings... But the body modification is a joke. Height is also a joke, tried to make the most tall and buff human i could... and he looks like a halfling twink, you really can't make this ish up. Party members... you can't use them anymore... they got no health bars and they are basically unkillable ghosts with zero presence since everyone just attacks you and ignores them, you can't issue them actual specific orders except for using a couple of skills... what the actual f.? Dialogues are deceivingly OKAYISH for the first couple of hours or so... then they quickly and progressively get dumbed down and start diving into current day California territory. Writing is utter trash and breaks immersion every time.... we are in Thedas... trying to deal with some freaking world ending events and my companions first world problems are apparently their pronouns, non-binarism and how it sucks to not feel comfortable in your own skin... Y I K E S. Art style (characters and enemies) is anything but dragon age... they look like they came out of a Pixar movie and is extremely goofy and off putting if you take the setting of the story into consideration. Final pet peeve, i don't need the game to hold my hand, spoon feed me or treat me like a toddler. Doesn't matter if you are in your early teens or you are a full blown adult, this is extremely patronizing, i don't want to play a game that patronizes me, i am playing games for escapism, bringing all that current day bs along with a patronizing behavior, makes me believe you think of all your customers as brain damaged individuals. I'd summarize this game as "Identifies as Dragon age" p.s If it was about the people... the "bigots, right wings" etc... then BG3 which got TONS of "wokeism" wouldn't sell like hotcakes, almost everyone that played it wouldn't be singing its praises, it wouldn't get top tier user scores and reviews. Only a very small minority that is actually that simple was there to keep crying wolf. But with DAV we got a strong majority having SERIOUS issues that doesn't just stay in the lane of "DEI". Nobody had problems with the previous dragon age games (bi and gay characters all over the place) because the game was WELL WRITEN and never had any kind of to the nose conversation that would instantly snapped you back to reality... which means WE HATE having our ESCAPISM destroyed with extremely poor millennial writing.

[@MistaFiOth]

Do you think that the only thing gaming can offer in 2024 is escapism? Should there be artistic expression in it if it doesn't agree with our world views? I suspect you watched at least some of the video.

[@reignmans]

@@MistaFiOth this is a main focus on a lot of people that are actually playing a game. they want to escape. you can't just brush it over, especially when we are talking about FANTASY rpg on a well established world. I am still watching it, at 14 minutes atm

[@MistaFiOth]

I am not brushing over anything. Gaming can be more than escapism and sometimes, what the creators want to say is going to be in contrast with what we want to hear. I am covering this as well. Always open to discussing it in total, after you are done.

[@slybootsstan1809]

Omg, thank god that you're here to educate us and to let us know that we need help. I don't know what we would do without you. Allow me to pull a quick barve before I go back to watching this blue chick come out to her mom as nonbinary.

[@MistaFiOth]

You are welcome!

[@granityseis104]

😂😂 this is the most disliked video of your channel.Veilguard is sure success.

[@MistaFiOth]

Complex matters usually lead to polarization. Dislikes are fine. I just want people to keep it civil. Have you been following the Channel before watching this video?

[@-PureRogue]

No, you are wrong , they were never progressive games, just because there were some rare characters, or unique races does not mean they were progressive, you had all kind of characters in lot of games, with all kind of stories and races. This is some hard cope seriously. I think you have no understanding about games in general , just my opinion.

[@MistaFiOth]

It's OK if you watched 20'' and decided to rage like a child. This video was not made for you.

[@BLaCkKsHeEp]

Garbage game. Had to get a refund

[@MistaFiOth]

That's not the basis of what I'm stating here, though. What are your opinions on the subject at hand?

[@BLaCkKsHeEp]

@@MistaFiOth that is my opinion. the game's garbage. not against inclusion, i am against companies shilling for forced inclusion. patronizing to me like some child that wasnt aware of LGBT. im from Philippines. LGBT is actually pretty common there. so i dont need another game dev telling me "oh you have to have awareness to these issues." i got friends and family in PH and the US that are LGBT. just write a good story, at least a semi decent gameplay, and forget all that social justice warrior crap. i think ill just replay Inquisition instead.

[@MistaFiOth]

I read you. Did you watch the video in its entirety?

[@chrisstanton70]

I think BG3 is evidence that people aren't being bigots. In BG3 you can be as gay as you want and be a they/themer and it got game of the year. Bioware crossed a different line here and that is with the bad writing in a game where its important for the player to be able to get immersed in the setting/story. That's a symptom of their bad business practice where they are only hiring non binary non-male people even at the expense of quality. They aren't practicing what they preach with DEI and they only have that single point of view to draw upon now.

[@MistaFiOth]

Yes Chris. I agree with most of your points. Fairness is important, and keeping your eyes on the prize - it being quality, first and foremost - needs to be the focus. All High Art is considered a stepping stone for the human race because of its quality, before anything else. That's why it's timeless. Thank you for the comment and for the levelheadedness.

[@r.m.bailey9061]

@@chrisstanton70 because this wasn't a political talking point then

[@MistaFiOth]

When/Where, in 2023 or in BGIII?

[@billsyrigas6618]

I could say a lot but i dont feel like it now what i will say is that people being angry is no bad think because it means they still care that bad part comes when people stop caring just go ask disney and marvel.

[@MistaFiOth]

Caring is miles away from becoming hateful towards your fellow human beings though, isn't it?

[@tastefulavenger]

Asari are not intersex...asari don't even have sex via physical means hell it's speculated we don't even actually know what they look like. They just psychically appear appealing to whatever species is looking at them....that aside I don't think you're equipped to talk about this subject matter efficiently. If you take no issue with the toxic positivity that stems from the LGBT alphabet mafia, that's on you but you're not having a "Grown-up" conversation by talking to a camera and brow beating people who actually believe in something grounded lol. Go watch Aydin Paladins video on why representation doesn't actually matter to get a better understanding on why this game and concord and dustborn and others get such a bad rep by a LARGE consensus.

[@MistaFiOth]

At least you watched a part of the video. I am stating that "it's the closest you could get away with" back in 2007. Not that they are Inter. If you disagree with me, it's totally fine. I think I cover my points efficiently enough. You don't. It is all peachy. I appreciate that you went for just the obligatory "lol" in this small paragraph, and not 25 emojis sprinkled around. Good talk!

[@RussellMiller-i5h]

@@MistaFiOth What's ironic is how preachy you sound in this very comment. You speak about "open mindedness" but then you are flagrantly dismissive of other people's opinions.

[@MistaFiOth]

Not at all. Granted, putting two words next to each other does not constitute an opinion. If someone's "opinion" is "lol, woke" then there's no reason to waste any air trying to have a discussion. If you can support a view, I'll gladly read it.

[@nathanconnolly395]

An adult discussion but he clearly learns towards the left and completely strawmans the argument from gamers which is why are you prioritizing identify politcs over the quality of the game you also say you've played all the dragon age games the qunari already have a term for non binary it's called qflock (I definitely spelt that wrong) so why would the term non binary even exist😂 it's stuff like that where actual fans of the series get angry because it's blatantly obvious that non of the devs bothered to read any dragon age lore or play any of the games.

[@MistaFiOth]

"Leaning towards the left" is your issue here? Guess it tells me all I need to know about which is your preferable angle.

[@nathanconnolly395]

@MistaFiOth oh great way to take everything I've said out of context by the way I'm not American and I'm a left wing libertarian so nice attempt at painting me as something I'm not it's blatantly obvious your a complete hypocrite who will pretend a bad game is good because it has a political messaging you agree with you started your video by stating let's have an adult discussion but you immediately went into culture war nonsense I'm simply pointing out that you don't know how to have an adult conversation and that you're not a gamer because you don't care about the quality of games all you care about is seeing the message in a game.

[@MistaFiOth]

@@nathanconnolly395 your syntax needs a lot of work. To be on-topic, I am not painting you as anything, you said I leaned in a certain direction, which is something I expect a certain demographic to use as criteria for judging one's work. If you feel like it's not what you are about, maybe your way of stating your intentions is a bit flawed.

[@nathanconnolly395]

@MistaFiOth ahem no it doesn't for you see I am dyslexic 🤣.

[@nathanconnolly395]

@@MistaFiOth no you see what you don't understand is when you review something there is an expectation that you are unbiased now the problem is you are clearly biased towards a certain demographic so you're not a reviewer you're a mouthpiece. You tried to present yourself as someone who is unbiased but in less than 1 minute into your video your talking about culture war nonsense instead of the games quality basically I'm calling you a tourist.

[@Hexentric8]

it's not that representation was never in Bioware games it's that the writers used to write these things to fit in with the fantasy setting and universe and didn't actually use words like "trans" and "non binary" .. i dont ever remember Dorian actually even saying the word "gay" and he's one of the best characters in inquisition, writers of veilguard aren't good and they dont know how to write, periodt. maybe instead of white knighting check yourself and expand your own knowledge. thanks bestie ❤

[@MistaFiOth]

It's funny how so many of you watched for 2', think I'm defending the game or its choices and came here to furiously type your edgy comment. Have a nice one.

[@wompoo7967]

There is "NO" place whatsoever for identity politics in gaming, or indeed entertainment. DEI is a wonderful concept, but it cannot and should not be forced. Unfortunately it has been hijacked by extremists, gamers can and should choose to reject the extremist and "The Message". A lousy eight fking percent of the gaming population have over stepped their relevance in the market.

[@MistaFiOth]

Did you watch the video in its entirety?

[@malcolm_in_the_middle]

You think DEI in games doesn't matter, but you're in the minority. Most gamers care deeply about the content of a game, and frankly Veilguard is cultural vandalism.

[@MistaFiOth]

Gaming is my long time passion and my work. I care on a much deeper level than the average conservative who thinks that change is "the enemy". I don't play DATV, I made it clear. And don't make the mistake that because bigots are loud they are the majority.

[@malcolm_in_the_middle]

@@MistaFiOth What is the most followed curator on Steam? It's a curator dedicated to identifying DEI in games. I'm afraid the available data do not support your stance that you are part of the majority.

[@MistaFiOth]

@malcolm_in_the_middle I don't feel the need to be part of any majority, I am not insecure. You think that metrics on Steam are the standard for the whole of society? For all people playing games? This is so pointless...

[@malcolm_in_the_middle]

@@MistaFiOth If you don't feel the need to be part of a majority, then why are you arguing that you are?

[@DemolitionboyXX]

DEI is fine. It’s when it’s made mandatory. BioWare is allegedly only finding those with these views to be the only ones with values. We can’t act like DEI isnt being used as a weapon. It seems like your downplaying the issues. The facts are facts: people don’t like that these views are becoming mandatory. No amount of what-aboutism will change that. Not taking a stance is fine, but when you choose to downplay the issues that people have, that is toxic and harmful to the discussion. RIP to Isabella’s assets 😂

[@armyofray8096]

Okay I get it. You're liberal. You don't understand story telling but more so you don't understand people.

[@MistaFiOth]

When I first read your comment, initially I thought "another MAGA tool, let's just delete this and move on". But no. If that's what you think, it's fine. If you watched this 20' video and this is the conclusion you reached, living the way you do is bad enough, I don't need to add anything to it. Have a good one.

[@Blameitongeorg3]

Jesus what a brainlet

[@MistaFiOth]

It's getting sadder and sadder with every passing year. Brainrot is taking over.

[@reozen8727]

想玩ZZZQ，没问题。老子不买账。 whoever wants to play the DEI thing like bullshit, fine, no problem. i won't buy it.

[@MistaFiOth]

A pretty simplistic way to reply to a 20' video, but it's fine. We vote with our wallets.

[@chadachord1011]

Because that’s what this damn game was made but everyone wants to ignore the elephant in the room and treat like any other game.

[@MistaFiOth]

"what this game was made"?

[@warbaby32]

Why? It's not game for grown ups...

[@MistaFiOth]

I actually laughed out loud at this. 😂 Touche!

[@warbaby32]

@@MistaFiOth You're welcome... f*ck, now I have to actually whatch the vid, don't I?. 🤣