Time For My Stories - Mad Men - Matt Christman and Felix Biederman

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Pour yourself a stiff glass of grown-up juice while on the clock at your job, and let Chapo Trap House's Matt and Felix pitch you on Mad Men.
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@dancingzorbas 2 ай бұрын

What Breaking Bad did for under-employed STEM graduates in the 00s is what Mad Men did for under-employed liberal arts graduates

@GaziRahman-ux3sz 11 ай бұрын

Old Gold cigarettes, they're not just for you, they're for the child within, who was molested

@rickkroll 11 ай бұрын

Bars

@sonnyboyfranco 11 ай бұрын

Energizer batteries

@jmb..... 8 ай бұрын

Why would, let someone, molest you?

@Garrett1240 3 ай бұрын

Cumtown lives

@d.m.collins1501 Жыл бұрын

I think they're wrong about this show having too many seasons. The show is about the 60s, and it took us from its beginning to its end. Some of its final episodes were among the best. Though maybe I'm biased, because I REALLY liked seeing the groovy sixties from the perspective of socially conservative office types.

@CircuitRider 9 ай бұрын

Yeah I think the show pretty much only got better with every season, although it sort of peaked in Season 5 which is near-perfect. Season 6 and 7 are also fantastic though (especially the second half of 6 and first half of 7). I'd say it's even more consistent than The Sopranos tbh, which has some clunky episodes and an awkward first season - I don't think any episode of Mad Men is less than good, though admittedly I'm biased as it's my favorite show. I think the tonal variety of Mad Men is part of what makes it special; to me it's not nearly as overbearingly depressing to watch from start to finish as other greats like The Sopranos or The Wire. Like Sopranos, there's lots of comedy and a great balance of comedy with drama, but somehow even though Mad Men goes to some dark places it's never punishingly grim. The character interactions feel true-to-life in such a subtly complex way. It's both distant and abstract yet warm and humanistic. Just the best writing ever done for TV in my opinion.

@dongliker 7 ай бұрын

The sixties wasn’t “groovy”. It was basically the 50s with more social panic and slightly better fashion. The hippie movement wasn’t a real thing it was a cultural tulpa

@d.m.collins1501 7 ай бұрын

@@dongliker I completely agree yet also disagree. In many ways, the image and lifestyle of the "hippie" hijacked what could have been a true cultural revolution in politics and society and took it out back, got it stoned, and turned it into the 1970s. In less than a decade, popular activism on the Left went from the rolled-up sleeves of Pete Seeger and Rosa Parks to horrible, selfish, narcissistic assholes like Jerry Rubin and Eldridge Cleaver. After the initial huge successes of the Civil Rights movement, nothing really got done--not even ending the war, which dragged on well past the height of hippiedom. Drugs in particular, and the ethos of personal freedom from responsibility in general, caused a schism between the working class and the activist Left that has never healed, and is a big part of why conservatives have taken so much power in modern times. They still think we're flakes, and you know? A lot of us are! But then again, the hippies and other long-hairs weren't JUST about peace and love and listening to the Beatles over and over again. They DID show up at major protests. They DID help end a lot of institutional racism and, later (since half of them were chicks) they helped end a lot of institutional sexism! They even threw bricks at Stonewall! I don't like to talk about it in front of the boomers, because they're already too full of themselves, and have en masse rejected the best of what they once stood for (or at least, the best of what the best of them stood for). But a lot of the changes they helped usher in were lasting and have made our lives better. E.g. I could go to a fancy hotel tomorrow and have sex with someone who's not only not white, but she's not married to me! And sometimes she's a he! And the cops won't come and put me in a paddywagon. (Though they might still lock me up if I'm male and black and look shifty coming out of the hotel lobby... But more to your point, I do love how the show refused to show "groovy" cliches of hippies at Woodstock but instead showed things like how I assume they really were: 1) A weed dealer who wears a tie and a loud sports jacket 2) A commune in Greenwich Village, but they're really squatters who steal meat. 3) a hare krishna guy who wants to write for Star Trek. 4) A rich ad exec's wife who wants to pretend she doesn't have a TV because she's play-acting at being a hippie. 5) Multiple women whose newfound hippie freedom causes them to abandon their children... 6) Acid being trendy among urban elites. 7) .... and of course that "I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke!" ad!

@d.m.collins1501 7 ай бұрын

... and on a personal note, I also just like a lot of music from the mid to late 60s. I don't like it because of its forward-thinking lyrics (it rarely had any) or because I think it's spiritually deep. I just think it's legitimately cool, a unique break with what came before ... And, clearly, that change had a lot to do with taking tons of drugs and going nuts! It sounds like it would have been a recipe for disaster--and it eventually kind of became one in the early 70s for some bands. But starting in like late 1965, somehow the post-British Invasion bands kept pulling it off, single after single, album after album, all over the WORLD, for a couple years straight! And the best stuff was just at the CUSP of the changes in fashion and fugggin.... Like the Fugs, Love, the Byrds, the Thirteenth Floor Elevators and all the fuzzed-out psych-punk bands of Texas, the Beatles Revolver, the Beach Boys' Smile... and all these musical forces that were just getting their START! Like, imagine seeing the Mynah Birds in maybe 1966 or so, with both Neil Young AND Rick James in the band! Or the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test! Anyway, yeah... I love me some 60s. Hare Krishna!

@dukebaloof2540 6 ай бұрын

What the fuck is a cultural tulpa? What in gods name does that mean lmfao @@dongliker

@ryguy081399 Жыл бұрын

Boardwalk Empire is a GREAT show 😡

@rickkroll 11 ай бұрын

I love it but i feel like it does fall apart as it goes on and messaging can be a little off

@garcalej 8 ай бұрын

BE was like an F Scott Fitzgerald novel come to life. There was never a moment I didn’t like watching it. And it was every bit as memorable, funny, insightful, and depressing as Sopranos or Mad Men.

@jmacdon4 8 ай бұрын

I felt like I was being manipulated a little by a formulaic tendency to build up then kill off one beloved character each series. I thought it was really good though. The final episode is the most crushing tv I can remember watching.

@I_can_do_20_push-ups Жыл бұрын

Nice. I’m gay.

@ReallyCoolGuy6969 Жыл бұрын

Nice. I'm gay too.

@Thoggnee 11 ай бұрын

They basically predicted the Wednesday Netflix show at the end

@deanemarks8611 Жыл бұрын

The characters were the GI generation, not boomers. The kids in the show were boomers.

@coreygolpheneee Жыл бұрын

And the Pete Campbell's of the show, he's a first generation boomer being born probably right after the war to a family that didn't really fight in it

@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they said that.

@MoRobinson1997 11 ай бұрын

Literally exactly what they said

@CircuitRider 9 ай бұрын

@@coreygolpheneee Nah Pete was at least like 22 if not closer to 25 when the show starts in 1960, so he'd have been born in the mid-late 30s most likely

@purdueswash 3 ай бұрын

Maybe I misread the show, but I really don't think the writers shared their sense of nihilism. They were far more favorable toward their characters.

@OrinLinwe 10 ай бұрын

...I watched exactly one episode of Mad Men (the first episode) after seeing it hyped up on Oprah in a very forceful way of "oooh, everyone is talking about Don Draper. He is so mysterious, what's his secret? What's he all about? Aren't you alredy invested, without even having seen a second of the show? He's so dark, tall and intriguing, you just gotta find out what his deal is." Maybe it's just that my taste of men is essentially completely the opposite of the guy who plays Don Draper, but it felt like such a weirdly front-loading of a premise ("aren't you incredibly curious about this big-jawed, tall guy in a suit, who you'd otherwise clock as a gross finance-douche if you actually met him?") that I never gave the series a chance beyond that, and, this late after it all, absolutely never will. Still find the commentary/dissections of the series interesting, though.