Time Team Special: Boudica's Lost Tribe | Classic Special (Full Episode) - 2011 East Anglia

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[@aairsick]

The closed captioning is done by AI -- tell the robots

[@future_me_6067]

​@@aairsick We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

[@Patrick_Cooper]

@@future_me_6067 Off with there heads...

[@bethbartlett5692]

How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage. As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus. (There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths" I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan". The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann" I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have

[@bethbartlett5692]

An Alternative possibility: How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage. As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus. (There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths" I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan". The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann" I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have

[@abestm8]

I am 71 now and spent my life in Aerospace Engineering. To me, in my opinion. They knew far more than we think because, they buried the Torq's on separate levels. That to me indicates they knew about what we today call, dissimilar metal corrosion and took care to separate them on different levels to avoid corrosion. It also makes me think, that they were not being discarded because as you would only do that to preserve them for future use. So they were recoverable for the precious metals or maybe some type of ritual use. I do love these video's by the way lol.

[@jessicles23]

I agree

[@glassini]

I agree. There is a ongoing tradition among tribes worldwide of ceremonial burial of their most treasured items before going to a very hard battle from which they may not return. My belief is these torque represent each family and tribe that is gathered at that spot as an army. The burial is both ceremonial and preservative. They did not make it back to retrieve the items.

[@freyatilly]

Intetesting insight

[@thedreamweavingalchemist]

You're the new cool kid in class Sir 🙂

[@Tonymarony5113]

I've been in the building trade for 31 years. I look at the megaliths all over the world and think they must have had more technology than we give them credit for. Take stone henge. Recently, they have discovered some of the stone came from northern Scotland. I just can't see primitive people being capable of bringing them all that way. I wonder what these things did. It must have either been very important or pretty easy for them to move these blocks of stone.

[@matthewhale2464]

She may have ultimately been defeated but she is one of the very few to stand up to the Romans and although it may have cost her tribe dearly, although we cannot be sure, she is the embodiment of the saying that it is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, all hail the queen ❤️

[@jmwilliamsart]

Why did the Britons, Romans, and various peoples of the ancient world harm non-combatants (unarmed women and children) back then? It seems wrong to me to harm and kill on-combatants no matter who they are. So why did Boudicca and the Britons go after Roman women and children instead of just sending them packing back to Rome, their actions don’t make them any different or better than the Roman army.

[@seanmmcelwain]

@@jmwilliamsartancient times were brutal and no side was innocent of this brutality read up on more history. Not pleasant but that’s the way it was for centuries until relatively recently where brutality is more obfuscated.

[@freyatilly]

​@@jmwilliamsart.... methodology. Those that are of foreign influence, origin and hostility to the established Britons were perceived as a threat of not just their way of life through betrayal and brutality, but ultimately, annhialation. So it was that, which was thus meted out to them. However, ironically, it eventually brought the Iceni down. But such a moral code of only attacking combatants is a modern warfare game.

[@TomasFunes-rt8rd]

Oh yes it's all very neat and PC to pretend there was equality of brutality, no nation WORSE than any other, but GOOD LUCK trying to make that cutesy-wootsy belief correspond to the real world in the case of Boudicca's GHASTLY atrocities against the civilians of Londinium, good luck trying to find these "Romans and various people of the outside world" cutting off women's breasts and shoving them in their mouths (as Boudicca's "army" did), without going all the way to the Armenian Holocaust in World War 1.

[@Timetraveller2208]

​@@freyatilly Tell that to to Putin. Lives of women and children mean zero to him. It seems he's using the same tactic. Kill as many as possible, so it takes much longer to repopulate. 'Scuse me for speaking out of context; but it was the same strategy I saw after reading the comment/s.

[@ianfleming4356]

TT on Sunday evening, just like the old days

[@ledacedar6253]

Feels right, doesn’t it.

[@MrOllieBD]

@@ledacedar6253it does indeed!

[@BionicRusty]

Aaaand relax 🫖 ☕️ 😄

[@Patrick_Cooper]

Seeing that child's split skull. Brings it home, my heart broke a little...

[@genie5251]

Boudica has always fascinated me. I so appreciate this special. I hope that over time we will be able to learn even more about her nd her people.

[@adamsjerome1839]

The Gods have smiled upon me. A brilliant documentary to relive the tedium of my day. Old telly friends teaching me wonderful history.

[@54mgtf22]

Aah, Time Team. Like comfy slippers on a winter night.

[@kaylamarie2242]

Tony and Boudicca?! I’m being spoiled!!

[@HooliganJackMusic]

I understand!

[@Julie5231veg]

Brilliant episode, I’ve always admired Boudica. Thank you Time Team!!

[@jeffevarts8757]

I cast no aspersions anywhere else, but as a long-time (20+ years) fan of Time Team, this is my favorite production from Time Team Official yet. Great job. Encore encore!

[@honeybadgerisme]

Sadly, you cannot top Boudica.

[@cynhanrahan4012]

I remember watching this episode when it was new. It inspired me to try working with copper wire bought at the local hardware store. Since then I've learned lots of metal working to make jewelry. Only for myself, but it's enormously satisfying. I even like keeping the copper polished.

[@carloishoo4995]

I like the time team program wery mutch with Tony Robinson and the rest of the original crew more. When you have follow a program 20 years its hard to just forgett the show with the old crew.

[@cherylford2421]

Tony, Phil and Guy...perfect!

[@future_me_6067]

Don't forget Helen!

[@cherylford2421]

@@future_me_6067 oops...of course not...sorry Helen!

[@KernowekTim]

For me; Philip Harding and Francis Pryor. With Guy de la Bedoyere bringing up the Roman rear-guard. Pryor and Harding are "Deep History" expert professionals. If not for 'Black-Adder' Baldric would be no-where to be seen. Though he is a lovely-horrid-funny little man; bless him and his infuriating trench-hopping.

[@cherylford2421]

@@KernowekTim I agree although Sir Tony met Mick on a dig in Greece I believe so had an amateur interest...which is good, he made the archaeologists accountable! I love Francis for his undying enthusiasm

[@karamia1392]

Vale Mick…. Much missed 💐

[@BSWVI]

Time Team is my Happy Place ❤❤

[@TheCynthiaRice]

Fun fact - Lost wax technique is still used to cast parts in all kinds of materials.

[@DaveP1991]

"East Anglia became something of a backwater, just as it is today", Tony being absolutely savage!

[@kevinjamesparr552]

Like old times Tony and Time Team. Dont watch it now but came to this and rejoiced

[@veldawells2839]

Just magical. History of our Isles is simply amazing. Educational narrative with Sir TR deploying his incredible, colourful and mesmerising storytelling. Thank Q ❤

[@stephkluske423]

So good to see Tony Robinson back. He just lifts your interest in the subject 😊

[@maudieg8459]

Always a great pleasure to view time teams offerings. As a lover of history, I truly appreciate your work. Go Time Team!!

[@laughingoutloud5742]

The story of Boudicca fascinates me! Thank you ❤

[@Teresa-ih4sn]

Tony, Phil, Francis, Guy, Helen oh wow! Delitefull!

[@stewartmarshall4112]

Helen is still positively adorable in the new episodes.

[@terri200]

It is so wonderful watching all of you digging up history for us!! I have always loved anything on Boudica and their history! Thank you so very much for delving into this more for us!!👏👏👏💯💯💯🙏💖🪶💞✨️💜

[@LotsofWhatever]

I don't know if i ever saw this one so it was a nice treat!

[@stumccabe]

I used to work with precious metals - silver and gold. I think there is a mistake in the explanation for the gold-rich surface of the torques. I believe the surface layer was enriched by repeated heating and "pickling", that is heated to oxidise the copper in the outer surface, then placed in an acid bath of some kind to dissolve away the copper oxide. This process has been used for centuries and I'm pretty sure it was discovered millennia ago.

[@suereed8630]

If the experiment Torc Team had been working with a rod of the alloy, maybe they would have found this.

[@annemarieanderson4824]

The presenter did actually mention heating oxidization and quenching in acid, while she was describing the hammering process.

[@oc2phish07]

Fantastic. What a pleasure it was to find this one posted today.

[@archangel807]

Queen Boudica lived and died for her children and her tribe

[@future_me_6067]

Freedom

[@KNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

Don't we all??

[@Onora619]

I wonder how many people of British descent are descended from the Iceni tribe. I know there is no way to know, but sometimes I wonder what clans my ancestors were in. Where were my ancient British ancestors when all this was going down? Did they fight? On which side? Did the warriors survive the battle or just their children?

[@Historian212]

It would be interesting to know if DNA studies have been done on any of the Iceni skeletal remains. They could check for Y-DNA and mtDNA, which would give clues to such questions. 25 years ago, the DNA tech was unavailable. Maybe Google around to see if any studies have been done.

[@joanhiggin1134]

Some if My ancestry come from Norfolk

[@sarah_n_dippity]

Starting in a few minutes? I’ll just make the tea then…

[@BradleyHayward-yr8kq]

Already eating mine, dessert will have to wait though

[@OldHag73]

Same

[@Katmando376]

Yes it was great fun being with Timeteam.

[@CravingCanada]

This is just so right on a Sunday. Time Team never fails to deliver the goods.

[@noma5050]

Tony! HOORAY!

[@Go-Dawgs]

Thank You For Letting Me See My Old Show FAVORITES!!! Tony, Dr Pryor, & Guy from The Beginning!!! This Is Awesome and I will Not Stop Until The End. I am as Excited about my favorite Educators as I am About This Great Topic!!!! I can't Wait....Must Go Watch!

[@AdDewaard-hu3xk]

Saw this so many years ago. Now, re-edited, reshown. I'll rewatch. This was some of the best television a quarter century ago. And how about all the "farm" videos? I may just troll the past. Of course, I'm heading for my mid-seventies. No longer excited by anything new.

[@SmithCaro]

Boudica is my favourite person of all time ... 😊

[@mswildstraw]

Thanks so much for a fantastic episode. Bravo 👏

[@Sharon_Mc]

🇬🇧 I believe that the battle where Boudica was ambushed was not at Mancetta but just off the Foss way somewhere near Leamington Spa. Also, Hill top restaurant near Leamington Spa is surely a Roman troops lookout. It has views all around and is just off the Foss Way.

[@RHCole]

Love being a patron 👍🏻😁❤️

[@janemorgan154]

So glad the old team are back. Brilliant episode as always

[@tinkmarshino]

So good.. I have always loved this channel.

[@CharityGal]

Norfolk, England....where my father's paternal ancestors came from, who sailed to America in 1836. I wonder if my great-great grandmother had any Icini ancestry as she had a Celtic name. Rest in Peace, Boudica, brave warrior queen! I admire her courage for standing up to the brutality of the Romans.

[@OriginalMudSlinger]

Brilliant just amazing love it great work Time Team BIG UP

[@Davlavi]

Love learning about this period in history.

[@terrynunn4643]

Looking good Tony, great to see some of the team again.

[@roddupre8314]

Loving it from Loveland Colorado usa

[@amandajstar]

Comments by Guy and Francis towards the end...very illuminating.

[@edwardtuijl7517]

There is rarely a mention of the huge hill fort north of Thetford, attributed to the Iceni. The excavation was led by Tony Gregory in the 1980s and must have been a key area after the defeat of Boudicca

[@stephanieyee9784]

I love Time Team.

[@KNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

Its absolutely facilitating the history of BRITAN i hated history at school as well but TIME TEAM does history way better you actually see the relics..

[@devinangola3458]

This made my Sunday, seeing the old faces from TT!🥲 Seeing Phil in his element puts a smile on my face!😂😎👍

[@sarahwatts7152]

Love the recreation of the torque

[@JohnMacFergus-oz5cp]

My take on the destroyed torques is that they belonged to the dead, never to be worn again by anyone. Great episode! Everyone on Time Team needs to be knighted!

[@sammoore8445]

Great stuff something to learn from all of the troubles 😊

[@g.dalfleblanc63]

For anyone planning to visit Venta Icenorum there's also on the southern outskirts of Norwich some other places of interest: Whitlingham, now a country park, its flint mines date back to around 4000 BC. The area was known for flint-knapping, a process where flint stones were shaped into tools and weapons. Arminghall Woodhenge, a Neolithic ring of wood posts, the remains of which are underground or have been excavated recently, the site radiocarbon date is 3650-2650 Cal BC (4440±150).

[@Starman_67]

Awesome stuff 🤘😎🤘

[@victoriahhigman9611]

Thanks

[@Alan_AB]

Never let anyone say that the Roman Empire was a glorious one. They were as barbaric, if not more so, than the people they conquered.

[@williamhiller3988]

What a lovely surprise!

[@Luddite1]

Glad Francis Pryor said that . I don’t think it’s a case of Rome ostracising the iceni more a case of the iceni turning their back on Roman ways , they didn’t need that Roman market town they’d got their own

[@freyatilly]

Fantastic insert into a lesser known, short but fascinating period of Britannia's ancient tribal history. After all, what did the Romans do for us?

[@zyxw2000]

Architecture, language and alphabet, (maybe) roads, aqueducts, Roman baths.

[@louiseedwards29]

Kiwi with lots of Norfolk ancestry. Sometimes I dream a little, that I have Iceni blood in my veins. You never know.

[@richardh8082]

I like to think Boudica was satisfied with giving the Romans a darn good kicking, and it may be all she wanted :)

[@happygrandma5637]

I've always rather wondered where the gold came from that they made the jewelry from. Who taught them to work it? Always great to see these, I've loved watching the Time Team first finding it during covid and now as a patron of their comeback.

[@suziesearle9170]

Wow Stonea is near march that is quite a distance from Norwich.

[@fluff4115]

"Time Team" is not Time Team without Tony Robisnon - Come back Tony

[@SqueakyOojine]

Its TONY!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@lindasolomon4235]

Gotta love Phil.

[@michaelmazowiecki9195]

It is striking that the soil overburden above the Roman layer is so thin. Just compare to Londinium which lies several metres below the current surface of the City.

[@kelliv2995]

❤❤❤

[@ClassCiv]

I chanced on this when KZbin threw it up on my Home page. The funny thing is that only the other day I wondered what had happened to this show. Interesting because a) I'd never seen it before and b) I don't really have any memory of filming the scenes with Tony at Castor St Edumnds or Colchester (which must have been in 2010). What I mostly remember is breaking my toe on the bed in the hotel at Colchester because it was only about 6 inches narrower than the room I was in, and that the motorcycle I had driven down on had a defective rectifier which had flattened the battery. The content of the show I had totally forgotten.

[@ramonaausterman9620]

They had nothing but time to master their metallurgy skill sets!

[@user-bt2od3yw1b]

Brilliant, great episode. Celtic/Briton Britain and Ireland will always be the most interesting history of the British Isles. If there are more episodes from this period that haven't been uploaded before would love to see them. I would love to know more about the period of Celtic Britain between the Romans leaving and the Anglo-Saxons arriving. Is there a Box set of Time Team that we can buy somewhere or even a digital boxset of all the old episodes?

[@theskycavedin]

Venta Icenorum was what was known as a "civitas." It was built as a "capitol" of sorts for a particular tribe that had territory in the Roman Empire. So it was built to be a Iceni capitol city.

[@fraeris68]

Can't wait 👍

[@charlesdavis9937]

The furthest ancestor I found in England is the saxon King Aella.

[@janesalisbury3686]

Ooof, rundown East Anglian town . . . sounds like modern-day Wisbech.

[@jameslee-pevenhull5087]

Iron age metalworking. Have many tools been found? Did the metalworkers have a bench vise?

[@cadderley100]

That JCB digger looks like a mobility scooter with a mechanical digger arm put on it.

[@moonshayde]

Question - if the metal had to be hammered as in the programme so have any anvils been found in digs?

[@seanpaula8924]

An appearance of Phil Harding 👍👍✌️

[@KNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

With his sweaty hat..

[@littlemouse7066]

the Icini had all the right to rebel and the fact that horrible assault on Boudica and her dauthers was narrated by a roman historian makes it believable because it comes from the perpetrator. that's why I hate conquerors and don't understand people fascination with them.

[@darkeolas6587]

"where we are from we have hillforts, and we put them on hills" that got me

[@josephkarl2061]

I’m going to argue the torcs were broken once the owner died. They didn’t want to be buried with them because they feared someone would come along and despoil the grave, take the torc and claim the authority of the previous owner. This way the power was broken, and no one could claim that power for their own. My hapenny’orth anyways 😃

[@456ArmyGuy]

ICENI IDENTITY could still be there in lots of those that were always there.... even Centuries later to today

[@flirtygirl2569]

VERY TRUE , MOST ARE LED TO BELIEVE BRITONS WERE FEW IN THE DARK AGES THAT'S NOT TRUE.

[@brynmorjenkins4376]

It still remains a great mystery to this day the actual site of the last battle that the Iceni and other tribes took on the Roman legions. Somewhere there must be evidence of this.

[@woodyw9798]

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[@manuellubian5709]

It's a shame that even after all this time we've never really found solid proof of whatever really happened to her body. The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps she was cremated. However even for someone as revered as she was it's almost hard to imagine that they would have even allowed a cremation to occur if anything I would imagine that her body would have been venerated. So still fingers crossed for the day that perhaps sometime in the future her body or traces of a burial for her is finally found.

[@The_OG_Peaceloveandpuppies]

Poor Phil he really didn't like seeing that skull 💀

[@1PhoenixRising]

So.... Anyone tell me when and more interestingly why? Beau-de-see-ah became Boo-di'k-a'. I know it happened, but why? Do we think we now know more about how they spoke? Or....?

[@georgedorn1022]

Boudicea is the Latinised version of the Brythonic Boudica, so the reversion to Boudica is simply using her actual name (albeit possibly an honorific title as it means essentially 'Victorious Woman') rather than the Roman name.

[@1PhoenixRising]

@@georgedorn1022 Thank you friend. I knew it must have a good reason

[@davidrohlader3498]

Heat the mold, melting the wax, then pour the metal.

[@roxysimmons]

I had a thought about there being parts of the torqs buried... is there any chance that the Iceni, when forced to give over their weapons, melted down their gold to make weapons to fight the Romans? It was just a thought.

[@AuJohnM]

Google maps satellite picture shows the field (SW of Caistor St Edmund) with the grid lines of Venta Icenorum visible on the ground (And no, I don't believe St Edmund was named after Edmund Blackadder.).

[@MioVendetta]

Personally I believe the reason the torc are damage is because you wouldn't want anyone else to use, if only high status people wear these object they wouldn't want anyone else wearing it that's for sure.

[@tesIa.Iives.on.24]

It's a good 'un!

[@hrbailey379xhd]

From across the pond, not sure I understand why it’s called a revolt. Was the tribe not here prior to the Romans?

[@zyxw2000]

Yes, but the Romans had conquered Britain. Think of Native Americans here in the US.

[@456ArmyGuy]

Could this be where Boudica was born, stayed in, or where her village was?

[@Tom_Quixote]

If the smoke slowly trickled out through the straw roof, wouldn't the smoke deposit tar and soot over time, making the straw extremely flammable? Straw is naturally flammable, but adding tar would make it into a giant torch...

[@guyplachy9688]

Guy may like to look upon the stagnation of Venta Icenorum as the Romans holding back from the Icenii but I think there is more to Francis' suggestion, that the Icenii, defeated in battle & their population devastated, were still proud enough to reject complete Romanisation, & that the vast majority of those who survived & came after them thrived in their traditional settlements as they had before the Romans invaded Britannia. Of course there are some who would have succumbed to the newest Roman fashions but the large number of round houses within the town walls show that even many of those who had to live within the town did not care for the Roman way of life.

[@anastasiarose9003]

I found this very interesting it's a. It's a really new take on boudica. I think that their tribe would have been destroyed anyway the Romans were in the process of doing it when she stood up to them. However I am sad that they didn't continue with their arts and artisanship. But they probably didn't have the metals. And the purpose for that fine craftsmanship were the torx and for swords and other weapons and that wouldn't have been allowed by the Romans after that.

[@twanderson7756]

No mention of the defeat of the Ninth Legion. And we were shown geophys images of a townscape packed with features - what happened to all that? Could the Snettisham Hoard indicate a deliberate self-destruction of the tribe's leadership? You would have thought that an obvious question for the Team.