Time to Chisel Plow | What Tractor Should I Use?

[@tyfrank3427]

If you watched your depth and had a big enough cylinder, the M would pull it.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Agree 👍

[@reaperhunter7297]

That 826 is a beast! It sounds healthy too

[@thomasknouse3934]

Hi! I enjoyed you chisel plowing for the first time video. I had a super MTA with 4 1/8 inch pistons in it which boosted the 264 cu. in. displacement to 281 cu. in. and I wouldn't expect the super MTA to pull more than five shanks. The chisel plow pulls harder the first time you plow to brake up the hard pan you have built up running the furrow tire in the bottom of the furrowl. I also farmed in eastern Iowa in clay ground. I had a ten shank chisel which I took two off and pulled it with a 1650 Oliver diesel which was a load for the Oliver. And it pulled hard in the clay knobs. The 400 has the same 264 cu. in. engine that the super M and super MTA had from the factory. Tom

[@FarmallFanatic]

If I ever overhaul mine, I will put a 450 kit in it

[@gregarthur4746]

I pull a 10 shank behind the 966 w/dual at 8' to 10" deep. I run in Low 4, high torque. You want to chisel around 5 mph or you throw too much dirt out and it make it really rough to disc down. A 13 shank on the 5088 works well also.

[@charleswelch249]

Back when I was younger we pulled a 16' chisel plow with the 806 like butter with the duels and front weight.

[@FarmallFanatic]

That's what I want to get

[@TimmyFew]

Hey buddy I am the farmer that sold you the 826. I have heard no bad. I knew I gave you a fair deal. Cool videos. Love it

[@FarmallFanatic]

Tractor starts better than a gas tractor...love it 💯

[@bruceblaylock1397]

That 826 sounds awesome when pulling, I think you have a keeper there.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Definitely

[@toddmuehleip9250]

My 7 shank is a Glencoe no collector .I stretched the frame out to let cornstalks flow through tne shanks otherwise it was a dump rake. I somtimes use it almost like a subsoiler with a modern 190 hp tractor. 3 inch cylinder is what I have. Enjoy channel always

[@rogue9ine]

"Now I'm angry pulling" LMAO! The ole 826 showed her who's boss! In High 2nd. Holy cow!

[@FarmallFanatic]

🤣

[@rodneyvlieger9923]

Skip any liquid in the rear wheels. Put on cast iron, you can adjust your weight a whole lot easier. Also tire repairs whether you DIY or have tire shop do them are a whole lot cheaper/easier & less messy! Just thoughts from years ago growing up on the farm. Them sizes of tractor tires are fairly easy to handle, not taller than the average guy! They now have manual rim clamp bead breakers and with battery impacts a couple of tire spoons and soft faced sledge hammer help make quick work of tire repair.

[@stevenernst8262]

Pulled an 11 shank fully mounted with a 766, white cab back in the day. Then followed with field cultivator do all with rolling baskets. Been zero till on all acres since early 1990s, I sure don't miss tillage!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yeah, I heard the fully mounted ones pull much easier

[@andyg3240]

I don’t miss depending on 86 & 66 series IH tractors. Torque amplifier and transmission & rear end problems. Run John Deere equipment these days. Might be fun to hobby farm with but not to make a living on.

[@rainbowboa100]

any of these are nice! I used to run an 856 diesel w/ the wide front end, great tractor!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Definitely

[@jonathancrissinger2301]

That was awesome. Thanks for sharing. Had the smoke rolling alittle. 😂😂. See you later.

[@davidneil3864]

It is definitely time to use 826. Go enjoy that big beautiful tractor

[@martyh299]

Agreed!

[@nathanalmond8280]

Ole 826 is doing good with it. I knew it would I pulled a 10 shank John Deere 3 point hitch with mine before I got the 1066 and I don't have depth wheels on it. I pulled it in easy ground in low 4 high torque and in tight ground low 3rd high torque so the temperature wouldn't get too hot. I always like to chisel plow one way and then go across it on an angle and take care of any ridges and skips then disc it and that will help get it down level and in order for planting. Good luck.

[@FarmallFanatic]

What you said seems to be the consensus

[@nathanalmond8280]

@@FarmallFanatic good luck with your tillage and planting.

[@cafekiva7892]

Interesting because it's essentially suited to YEOMANS water retention use. Run it on grade in 40-50- ft parallel passes and you can catch a lot of soil-producing moisture in the A-horizon. It's the key to establishing a fruit orchard or windbreak.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Interesting

[@benjames2497]

Glad to see you out having fun with your 826, good looking tractor!

[@Husker3435]

That was enjoyable FF, she snorted a few times, that’s good for her😎keep em comin💥🇺🇸💥

[@FarmallFanatic]

Clean that engine right out 😁

[@danherrmann8755]

Thanks for the ride. Getting ready for corn field sking.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Right on

[@garrettsilveradoz71]

That 826 sounds beautiful! I have faith in that SMTA!!

[@FarmallFanatic]

I do too

[@KellyBenedix]

You make my heart smile! "You got jokes " Lol

[@FarmallFanatic]

😅

[@mmielcarek3046]

Like the line of attachments/tools. Uncle finally put crushed stone on the ground to slow the weeds down. slow the rust from being in the dirt. Grease fittings you only wipe them off before you grease them. The amount of dust it collects keeps the zerk ball shiny.

[@troyshoup3695]

Old girl sounds good! Great to see it being worked and clearing it's throat. Haying is ok but turning dirt👍🍻

[@markstokes6075]

Great video bud,been waiting on the ole 826 in the field pulled like a champ ,I'm still waiting to get my 826 in the field to start cutting hay soon as the rain let's up keep these great videos coming 👍.

[@FarmallFanatic]

It's actually raining here today... I'm glad I was able to do that yesterday

[@jamesmorrison1884]

Hello Gino looks great. The 826 just playing with it. I've never chiseled plowed the ground. Enjoyed your video have a great day.

[@FarmallFanatic]

826 had what it took

[@jamesmorrison1884]

@@FarmallFanatic Yes no problem

[@tyfrank3427]

The 826 just plays with it. With the 06 series, we usually go in 3L to chisel. We usually chisel twice and go on an angle once. It really helps break it up. Your ground seems to break up good. Also, we use harrows behind them. they are often mounted right to the cultivator here.

[@FarmallFanatic]

So chisel twice?

[@tyfrank3427]

@@FarmallFanatic Yes as a rule. We always go on an angle the second time because it's too rough riding if you don't, plus it breaks up the ground better. Your cultivator will automatically drop a bit.

[@kylekenan2321]

7:10 I've had break aways not break away before and ripped the tubing out of the valve body.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Oh it's entirely possible, but this increases your odds of a clean break

[@stanleyharrell6009]

Oh man, that 826 brings back memories. Growing up, a cousin of my Grandpa had a an 826 as his primary tractor. I have ridden quite a bit on that 826 with him. It was a very good tractor and he sold it when he retired. It would keep pace with the JD 4020s. Now we had John Deere tractors and equipment because my Dad was a JD mechanic. So he would have disowned us had we had IH equipment😂. But Farmall and IH was good stuff.

[@FarmallFanatic]

It's a great tractor

[@AndrewHCann]

Excellent video Geno :) also I know my dad 1963 McCormick International B414 didn't have back hydraulics for lifting only loader and 3 points hitch hook up ! 1950 Cockshutt 40 no 3 points hitch or hydraulics hose up! But 1968 International 624 A Desiel motor, 1978 International 724 Desiel motor loader both had hydraulics hose hook up and 3 points hitch! Also 4 implements Machinery on farm had each cylinders only ones didn't have for long time was New Idea corn picker and John Deere 474 A 4 row corn planter ! But eventually my dad bought one each for both them from John Deere tractor dealer near home farm!! Also you tried best on Farmall MTD and 826 had go with Geno was great test for sure on International 50 Shank Cultivator!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Thanks buddy

[@thomascruff786]

Awesome video Farmall fanatic.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Thanks

[@Jtwes]

Nice chisel plow.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Thanks

[@BobbyP-ld9dh]

That “sound” …… you just know the power is there, Red Power!

[@alexwhitaker5144]

If you are open to suggestions the only thing I would suggest is 3" left and right twist shovels. It dose a better job covering.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yeah somebody else was saying that too

[@alexwhitaker5144]

@@FarmallFanatic if you were closer I have a dozen I would give you that I have no use for since I switched to 4"

[@joescheller6680]

We break sod like couple three inches deep first time couple three deeper second time in diamond patern then third time straight. You have a fine seed bed. Pull the disk behind in tandem.

[@FarmallFanatic]

What state are you in?

[@bernardjones6162]

That is so sweet! Nice to have a variety to choose from!

[@joescheller6680]

You need to tie the disk behind the chisel couple passes and your ready to plant. Disk level the chunks out nicely for nicer ride second time around.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Nah, I want to disc with the Super M-TA

[@scottpecora371]

There are definitely advantages to diesel. People rarely understand that a diesel essentiall runs full throttle or full air, and then power output is determined by the amount of fuel added in the cylinder. Gas engines unless under full throttle operate with restricted airflow so the proper fuel/air mixture can be maintained which is then lit by the sparkplug. So unless you're essentially floored with a gas engine, they are always running at a restricted power setting. Then, with a diesel, add a turbocharger. Since there is no air restriction with a diesel, the turbo can be spooled up at all times. The more fuel added, the higher the exhaust pressure or exhaust velocity which can dramatically increase the intake volume of air, which has the effect of increasing compression which equates to more heat, more power, more efficiency. Even non turbocharged diesels are very fuel efficient, especially the old two cylinder John Deeres. Because of their very slow engine speed combined with a very large and very long piston stroke allowed the engine to extract all the energy and convery it to high torque output. There were certainly limits tothis design, but for things like plowing, or other continously heavy loads. Watch the last of the series, a diesel 830, turning about 1400rpm if that and its pulling a 4-5 bottom plow and it doesn't even sound labored. There was a reason old time farmers loved their Jonny Poppers, they sipped fuel. Down south farmers used to run them on peanut, corn, vegetable oils, or kerosene, or jet fuel when you could drive onto a local airport that serviced jets or Turbo props and ask them to fill up your farm tank with Jet-A kerosene 12 cents a gallon until the 1970's. Thats why all the jet-liners use to fly around at .92 mach, or 650mph. Even DC10s first flew at 600+mph, and Convair 880's and 990's routinely flirted with .97-98 mach. Fuel was cheap, simply light the blow-torches and go like hell. My father flew DC-9's in the mid 1960's until the mid 70's. They would reach cruise and then when they started to decend they'd leave the power on until they started getting the mach clackers going off warning you were just about to go supersonic then they'd just pull back enough power to keep from going mach 1. He said everyone did, that was just normal flying with 12 cent fuel. Time was more important than fuel. Now fuel consumption is everything!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Another thing about diesel is they mostly don't use fuel

[@duncand5148]

I ENJOYED THIS VIDEO!!! I was wrong about the MTA. And now seeing and hearing the 826 pull, I’m questioning whether or not the 400 will??? IDK. Might not be a good idea to pull it with either. I guess it’s something to the 10 or more per shank rule??? One thing for sure., that’s a VERY NICE chisel plow you bought. No doubt about that. That was a very nice find indeed.

[@FarmallFanatic]

You could do it at a shallow depth.But I need to get a different cylinder

[@duncand5148]

@@FarmallFanatic I believe you could too.

[@bradh74]

That 826 is worth a lot because it's still a practical tractor for a farm to own and work daily! I wonder how the 756 would do dragging the plow around?

[@FarmallFanatic]

I think it would struggle

[@andyadelmann3158]

The 826 just a snort’n out there , sounds good 🇺🇸

[@benniehazelwood9276]

Get Reed of the chisel point get you some 10 inch chisel sweeps it will do better then the points they will tear up more land. And get read of most weeds.

[@eric2895]

706 German with a turbo pulled a 12 shank with rolling cutters low 3 then 22’ field cultivator

[@FarmallFanatic]

Turbo is a game changer

[@codygaynor2098]

826 handled it perfectly. Can't wait to see the mta on the disc again

[@billtodd6509]

We always cross disked then lengthwise and done. That soil looks good and corn ready June 1

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yeah that's probably what i'm going to do

[@richardschaffling9882]

I have a cultivator with shovel points some people say plow points and it has six if I run it shallow my farm pro 2420 will pull it but I hooked it to my IH 454 and ran it deep probably about 14 inches just to brake up the hard pan then I ran the plow deep and disc itI usually use a 4 foot tiller

[@AJmx2702001]

The best thing in the spring with a chisel is just stir the dirt and definitely hit it with a disk in a few days to seal the top up.. the more you use the chisel the easier it will get since your moldboard over years of use leaves a compaction layer so just try to break the layer the plow left.. I have one place with a dead furrow that you can still feel with 45 years of chisel going over it

[@FarmallFanatic]

That does make sense

[@KeithDennisBrewer]

Hey great video, NB Canada saying hi there and I subscribed!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Thanks Keith!

[@williamspates1015]

Looks like good setup you can make good time and definitely got plenty of power.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yeah. I was surprised how fast it was

[@williamspates1015]

@@FarmallFanatic only thing I think you may not like is from my experience you have more weed pressure after chisel plowing because it just mixes the dirt up doesn't really turn it completely over and eliminate weed growth like a moldboard plow will. We chisel plowed every other year and just disced on opposite years with offset disc still had better weed control then no-till planting.

[@nicholasneidlinger1323]

Now you have the chisel plow working, it's time to see what the 2 way plow can do.

[@davidneil3864]

I can see your smile even though the camera is on the chisel

[@kylejohnson557]

I'd enjoy a comparison of that 756 vs. The 826 working those chisel plows

[@FarmallFanatic]

That can happen

[@craigrasnic4178]

I had to put a 4” cylinder on my 14’ disk for my M and then it lifted it fine. I pull a 10 shank with the D19 Allis but it’s a 3pt. A pull type pulls a little bit harder, well you need more weight or duals on the tractor to get your horsepower to the ground and not just spin your wheels. I honestly think the SMTA or 400 will pull it with the straight 2” shovels the 3” or 4” shovels maybe not

[@FarmallFanatic]

S m t a or 400 must have a four inch cylinder

[@landontesar3070]

when is it time to chisel plow? To break up hardpan, or just to open up the soil for more effective disc? Too wet here after this spring....

[@FarmallFanatic]

Both or either really

[@martyh299]

The 826 definitely has the power plus the weight without liquid ballast and wheel weights. Man, what can it do once you add the wheel weights and possibly rim guard? 10 or 12 shank easily is my guess! She definitely talks to ya….gotta love that!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Duals

[@AaronMoore-s3f]

Would the smta lift it if you moved that cylinder up a hole. I see you have several to chose from. That farther from the axle the less power it would take to lift it

[@FarmallFanatic]

Part of the problem is no rear wheel weight at all

[@jameschainey2343]

That 1 time you done a close up on the right rear-drive and a tire was QuicklyThose tires sure do bite in😊

[@FarmallFanatic]

Definitely 👍

[@30pkattack-91]

That 826 sure sings a melodic tune under load!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Definitely

[@kh2140]

Farmall M is my favorite antique tractor.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Powerful 💪

[@landontesar3070]

It's a classic for sure. Muscular

[@bobpaterson1845]

826 just showing his her siblings just who is the Red Power 💪💪💪👌💥king 😁 great video 👍

[@FarmallFanatic]

King of the farm currently

[@lynnmitzy1643]

❤ooooh the Red Power is strong with this one 💪🏼❤

[@cesmith4566]

I'd say you got the right combination ,if you want work more soil more, change shovels to something wider and curved!

[@FarmallFanatic]

I may get to that point eventually

[@rogerhecker4111]

I would definitely take the 826 .. No question about enough HP with that one …(It looks nicer also LOL)

[@grantmagnuson4883]

No, I would plow it, and then disk it. The chisel plow will give you nice for rose when you plow. What do you have a four or five bottom blow?

[@FarmallFanatic]

4 bottom

[@turbo5488]

That 826 does a bueatiful job on pulling the chisel plow IH muscle 💪 under the hood

[@FarmallFanatic]

Felt great to be on that tractor 💯

[@lamontpowell6235]

What are the hydraulic quick connects called? Im getting older, had a stroke, and need to replace my hydraulic connections with something easier.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Pioneer

[@lamontpowell6235]

@@FarmallFanatic Thanks

[@dwayneruthig242]

I would have been surprised if that MTA handled your 7 shank. I used to run a DMI 9 shank with individual coulters and 4" twisted shovels behind a 4166. Sometimes you had all you wanted. In our area they are stone lifters. :) We followed it with a Glencoe finisher.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Well, it will handle it.I just need to get a bigger cylinder so that I can control the depth

[@briandietrich1373]

Love the 826!

[@FarmallFanatic]

It's a comfortable tractor too

[@paulmartin8784]

We pull a 13 shank IH 55 chisel plow with a IH 1586,got a lot of extra power, but that's the way I like it

[@FarmallFanatic]

Me too

[@paulmartin8784]

@@FarmallFanatic it be fun to see the MTA pull it though

[@willardway3037]

Well I liked the wide shanks for spring work does a better job, and saves you a trip in the field with the disk? depends on the trash in the field. (trash= weeds and junk)

[@FarmallFanatic]

I always plan on disking

[@rickwascher4730]

Depends if you're paid by the job or by the hour.

[@clarkwheeler8764]

Talk about having FUN----Woo Hoo!! I think I know your reaction---Now you'll want MORE acres to chisel. lol If your ground is still rough, go over it again at a different angle and then disk a few times.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yeah it is a good time.. it's raining now

[@win1885]

Humming along!

[@markstampe9406]

i gotta say, the 7 shank surprized me!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Me too

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

John Deere commercial at the beginning of this video 🤣🤣🤣 Chisel plow made the 826 grunt a little. Great seeing you in the field!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Hey, if john deere wants to pay me, show me the money 🙃

[@billtodd6509]

I'm building a chisel plow for my super A using a couple front bumper guards from my 1970 c20 Chevy pickup. Will I need front weights? Just kidding. Either of those tractors should get the job done unless in clay. Bill

[@joescheller6680]

You use cylinder stops or blocks to regulate the depth.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Well, yeah, what did I say?

[@richardniswander6090]

That 826 sounds good.

[@hturbo1007]

You want that chisel plow to do a nicer job, put three inch twist shovels on it then run the tractor in four low when plowing. It all depends on how much trash you want on top to prevent erosion.

[@bobhickling1837]

Might want to add some elbows to those hydraulic hoses at the cylinder. Saves stress on the hoses.

[@FarmallFanatic]

That actually crossed my mind and I do have them on other cylinders

[@bennyhill3642]

Man that was sweet! Inlove some tractor pullin lol Gr8 vid 😇🙏👍

[@MarkJLarsonOutdoors]

Way to find what works my friend!!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Thanks 👊

[@landontesar3070]

nice plow, must be a reason we don't see the IH brand of this on the market often.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Because they quit making them years and years ago

[@gm-yv5xq]

Looking good, man.

[@tbishop6726]

Still no under hood review on the 826 ..... or did I miss it

[@FarmallFanatic]

I keep forgetting

[@tbishop6726]

@@FarmallFanatic keeping everyone in suspense.. hopefully weather will turn around so I can get enough done before the showdown show....

[@Joshua-b2t3x]

Love to see her (mta) dauled up it look tuff

[@FarmallFanatic]

Me too

[@casedoumasr656]

Well you did it happy days and looks like no Rocks big pluse you have the Right formula.Lets go and letter grow ⛏️😊

[@FarmallFanatic]

💥BOOM 💥

[@paulpochan9631]

You LOVE IT...!!! Angry plowin'....!!!!

[@FarmallFanatic]

🤣

[@paulpochan9631]

... We were due for the 826 PICK UP STICKS...!!!!

[@challengerhitchman]

It looks like all your shanks were pulled back off the stops and riding the springs. Alot of tractor for that chisel. We never pulled our 55 chisel near that deep. 12 inches was plowing depth for us.

[@budafarms]

I got a model 13 allis 13 shank chisel plow I pull with my 806 farmall

[@FarmallFanatic]

How deep

[@budafarms]

@@FarmallFanatic about 10-12 onches

[@FarmallFanatic]

@@budafarms What state are you in

[@budafarms]

@@FarmallFanatic Nw Minnesota right in the edge of the red river valley of the north

[@FarmallFanatic]

@@budafarms Okay that sounds about right

[@MarkWYoung-ky4uc]

Big Red got it done!

[@glennschlorf1285]

I think knowing about IH disaster with the 560 I think I definately would have let the 756 play... the rear end is tough but not that tough... I just would personally rather have the larger tractor over the minimum.... tractor is just to light

[@FarmallFanatic]

Which, as you see, happened

[@glennschlorf1285]

​​@@FarmallFanaticgotta have the weight and the traction to pull them chisel plows.... My Dad had a 4020 John deere and borrowed the nieghbors 10 Shank.... it took everything that one had and that was enough weight but the ponies were not work horses... she had 95 Horse

[@FarmallFanatic]

@@glennschlorf1285 I wouldn't want more than 9

[@GrantMcIntosh]

4:37 I can't believe you took the time to make that edit 😂

[@FarmallFanatic]

I don't play 🤣

[@GrantMcIntosh]

Polished her up.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yep

[@meateaterwhitetail7291]

I'd go 6-8 inches into the ground. Don't want to go too deep.. sand you'll dig the sand out, rock areas you bring rocks up the surface...

[@FarmallFanatic]

True

[@AaricHale]

I really enjoyed the video! It took the big tractor to get the job done after all. What do plan on planting? Thanks for sharing and have a great day!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Soybeans and clover

[@lithiumike]

Looks like Red Diesels are back on the menu boys! haha

[@FarmallFanatic]

L.O.T.R. 😅

[@williamsnipes9810]

First I've watched much chisel plowing. Now we know why plows are going away. Took a little more to pull it than what I thought. Then you eliminate the plow and burn less fuel. Win win. Chisel plowing is now a little more popular.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yea, it's much faster than Moldboard

[@geesss8675]

Why didn't you spray with burndown before turning the soil? Are you going to moldboard plow this field and then use this chisel plow

[@FarmallFanatic]

I'm minimizing my chemical use

[@jerryjohnson8268]

nice going

[@ranchhandrandy3213]

Chisel (deep as she'll suffer), turn, disc.

[@FarmallFanatic]

That's what I was thinking

[@charleswelch249]

Gotta question have you ever swapped out a C135 IH engine for a C153 engine in a tractor and is there something more than just a swap I'm going to run into.

[@FarmallFanatic]

I never have... What is the one fifty three coming out of? Definitely going to want to check the bell housing pattern

[@charleswelch249]

@@FarmallFanatic it's out of a 504 industrial utility and I'm putting the engine, front hydraulic steering axle and steering column with everything including the lines on mine. I'm junking the useless steering system that is in the 340-460 tractor. You can't get rebuild parts and it's a week design that looks like a 8n Ford. Going hydraulic steering is much clearer and less parts to fail. And you know hydraulic cylinders are easily rebuilt and cheap.

[@FarmallFanatic]

@charleswelch249 If possible, I would do a mock setup. If the bell housing is the same, it should lock right in

[@charleswelch249]

@@FarmallFanatic same block as the 135 just instead of sleaves it is full bore and a longer stroke. I'm getting the center section as well in case I have to switch both.

[@FarmallFanatic]

@charleswelch249 Now, I've heard mixed reports as far as power...Make sure you let me know