Time Travel | Forbidden Frontier #46

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[@Cole99v]

My favorite rule about time travel is. “If time travel is possible then it’s already happened”

[@Ballbaggins]

Just like the "were living in a simulation" theory

[@smd1876]

Maybe..

[@FaceEatingOwl]

Not if it's invented in the future and they haven't been able to travel backwards, or if possible they haven't come back this far. So, not really a rule.

[@GeeMannn]

​@@FaceEatingOwlcouldnt they just theoretically move forward enough into the future to get the more advanced tech that allows them to move backwards? Lol just a thought.

[@ilari90]

Problem with time travel for me is that you'd need to specify the machine so that it also moves you in space, so essentially you have teleporter at the same time. Speed which we travel thoughout the universe means that the machine must take that travel in space into account on very huge scale or for the story telling purposes you need to just say that earth is the origo in space and just leave it at that. But yeah, the time and space must be accounted together so moving in time needs the teleportation in space too in it, and essentially would give ability to teleport nearly everywhere.. EDIT: Damn, wrote this as my first thought when began watching and it was the first thing Gary says, pffft.

[@Heinlein.]

Once I added that space is what’s moving I could transport anywhere

[@kurtwk]

It feels like I’m listening to “Coast to Coast “ … and I’m digging it.

[@TinyGirlSpaceMan]

The intro is a banger tbh. Every time I hear it I get excited.

[@peterjansen5536]

also, the 10% of the brain thing is a meme, mostly. We don't consciously use a lot of our brain, but people tend to forget it does a shitload of work in the background, all that "keeping us alive" business and stuff we don't think about but involves the nervous system.

[@DianeCee57]

We didn't get Skinwalker Ranch until the autumn in the UK. So I watched it & also Beyond Skinwalker Ranch after they were flagged up on FF. There was a lot that happened in SWR; the blob that was captured by the highspeed camera 30ft over the Triangle, the orange orb that passed thru the mesa, and the 'tunnel' with a high metallic content that was under the Mesa. Not to forget the weird little object caught on camera for a second or two in the field & the fact that when the native american chant was taking place that parts of the mesa glowed hotter & 2 orange orbs went into the mesa. Totally fascinating. But Beyond SWR was really cool too & that was glossed over a bit by the FF. Andy & Paul found similar phenomena in Colorado, the weird tunnel between a concrete plant & a mountain (& the drones that were turned back when they tried to film the mountain indicating the US military were involved), the Navajo Nation, the Chris Bledsoe episode, the Pugwudgy, and in that last episode the weird eye like lights that were staring at Andy & Paul. FF needs to go back and rewatch BSWR as there is some odd stuff happening.

[@simondeep]

2:02:02 in Jim butcher’s dresden files, he once called it the law of conservation of History. Sometimes somethings were meant to be-with a little wiggle room

[@elliotthebert4419]

Gary has become the knowledgeable professor that sits back and lets his students take the topic and go. Wise Gandalf

[@AllFlimmits]

Changing the timeline should never be anything to worry about. All you have to do is travel back further than when you made the changes for literally an instant without interacting with anything and you can jump forward to your starting point and be on your original timeline.

[@coreyleader6206]

Can't be worse than the current timeline.

[@failedgrace2891]

A Sound of Thunder fan by chance.

[@honilock577]

No you can't. Literally anything you do will create a new timeline. You can't reverse time because you'd have to reverse literal existence, you'd have to push the whole of spacetime backwards through time but leave yourself unaffected. It's basically the opposite of warp travel

[@film-lars3412]

When Adam says that the kid is 19 years old, it is exactly 19 minutes into the show !! Spooky and strange. 😆

[@Ryan-vl2nn]

Gary, love your channels. Especially the Forbidden Frontier videos. That being said you guys should definitely do a video featuring Rudolf Steiner and his views on the progression of the human experience upon death. Truly fascinating stuff. Especially that you’re into the occult studies.

[@S4ns]

Every time I heard "Nazi Bell" I kept picturing a 1940's version of Art Bell's radio show but instead of the strange and paranormal the host just angrily shouts about a specific group. "NEXT CALLER!" "Yeah, I think I saw Bigfoot" "VHAT YOU SAW WAS JUST A HAIRY JOO! UND ZHEY NEED TO BE SCHTAAPPED! NEXT CALLER!" "I saw a UFO!" "YOU SAW DER FLYING JOO! UND ZHEY NEED TO BE SCHTAAPPED! FOR DER FAZHALAND!"

[@doggodproductions2259]

😂 My God, I can see it (and hear it). Comedy gold

[@imaginemyshock8067]

I figure there might be a lot of inertia to the roll out of events as time passes, so if someone went back in time and changed something, it would have to be either at a key vulnerable moment or a major change to overcome the inertia that would otherwise steamroll the events of history to continue going in the direction they were already going. For example, if I get a red light or make it through on the yellow, it's not likely to make a noticeable difference to the history of the world. It might, but probably wouldn't.

[@markusjanus2151]

Also note: if the "Landings" of the objects are both East and or west that could also mean that the object was forward or backward in time.

[@TwoStepsFromAnywhere]

The observation made by Garret that time is relative is much more profound than I thought. It means that not only you have to move in space and time, but you would also need to know the relative velocities from now to the point in the past of both yourself and your destination, in order to calculate how far back in time you actually need to travel. It would be insanely more complex than most depictions where they assume there are some sort of absolute global coordinates. Wow, I never thought about that !

[@vidman5000]

The 1st story reminds me of that TV show Sliders. It was 90s schlock, but that's all I could come up with. Deadpool 3 looks great, btw.

[@iamnotyu5548]

will say, US regularly sells ships and they are always lighter than standard weight as a great deal of equipment that is still considered proprietary is removed.

[@Rx_Firm]

Black Sheep isn’t auto parts, that’s Tommy Boy Gary.

[@spastictreefrog]

The actual fact is that we only know what 10% our brain does, not that we only use 10% percent of our brain.

[@myleskelly2950]

17 mins Garrett is so spot on with the changing frequency to what/were/see/how and who it's great💪

[@AlexJones-ex8ox]

Just got back from a 9 day cruise through the bermuda triangle had no internet for the duration made it back home and this is the first thing im watching

[@peterjansen5536]

The DNA thing is a bit farfetched, though as somebody very familiar with the subject in general, it's true that our knowledge of DNA and Genetics in general is quite minimal. For the longest time, we thought we had the "central dogma" but protein moonlighting broke that portion wide open, and we're still not quite sure how aging/DNA are related, let alone what the function of basically all of the non-coding regions. It's a fascinating subject, also terrifying considering how modern companies are looking to tap into something we barely understand

[@LukePeiffer]

Random thought. When Adam said "I'm in the future" I thought of Squidward cringing "futureeee..."

[@killashandrahoban4262]

Greg Bear wrote a book about a micro black hole that was used to attack earth and we had months maybe years where it goes back and forth past the core until it finally grows large enough for us to start noticing. Then the earth dies.

[@chrisbingley]

Forge of God, a great novel. Got it on my bookshelf.

[@briandain8432]

I'm 6 feet 9 inches tall... Luv helping endless short people reach the top shelves... Good to have purpose in life. Thanks all you munchkins out there!

[@RealTalkT.V.]

44:55 Numbers 21 v. 8 - 9 Also, old video games were putting people on this. Think about it, CoD Black Ops 1 & 2 specifically the zombies mode. If you did those Easter Eggs in the maps you know what I'm talking about. Also, like they keep saying...the Assassins Creed games...especially 1 & 2. They were on to something back in the day.

[@neaverdeadned6853]

Space is outside of time. The items were in a different location in the future because the earth is rotating. Like sticking a piece of tape on a ball, rotate the ball. Pull the sticker off, let the ball rotate 1 second, put the sticker back on the ball. The sticker is in a different location relative to the ball, but not relative to you.

[@shawnwillis7561]

I don't think we think about time properly. We seem to look at time as though it's like hitting rewind or fast forward on a film. I think we should think about it in terms of the position of atoms within space. That's why you would need more energy than what exists in the universe. Because you would have to move every single atom in existence to a point in space where it was at a particular time. If your moving every single atom, where do you get the energy to reverse or fast forward those atoms? But if you only want to reverse time in a small region of space, than you don't need infinite amounts of energy. If you just want to reverse the path of every atom in our solar system, you would need a gigantic amount of energy, but it would be way less than the energy you would need to move atoms within the entire universe. I don't think you can create a paradox this way if you think about it in terms of atoms and not in terms a story line your reversing or fast forwarding

[@charlesrodden4019]

I'm not high enough

[@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm]

He only needed enough power to move his body’s atoms, not the universe’s. That’s why he always reappeared somewhere else ( space moved under / around him )

[@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths]

Actually a smart comment. Why am I so seriously surprised?

[@aldunlop4622]

I agree, I think if you went back say an hour in time, nothing would be there, all the molecules in the universe have already moved forward to NOW. This current universe doesn't exist an hour ago.

[@aldunlop4622]

It's a bit sad that you think you need to be high to think...@@charlesrodden4019

[@jakeskywalker69]

Why can’t Adam pronounce “electricity”

[@Impuritan1]

His pronunciation of Göbekli Tepe grates my goddamn nerves.

[@iBeHampe]

Last week or the week before, I was the one who tagged you all on X asking for you guys to cover The Nazi Bell!! If that was what inspired this, thank you!

[@SilverHolland]

Missing Link: High consciousness individuals such as advanced monks and jogis have been known to have their bodies disappear after death. No bones left. This ties in to the original Easter story, but perhaps also into missing links. If nearly all humanoids were friggin' saints, they didn't need tools to craft structures and you'd not be finding their bones.

[@aurorauplinks]

that is a interesting idea :)

[@ilari90]

myea, just watched some stuff on this, some were believed to live after death after they were mummified, but those stories about those mummies mostly come from later times and should not be taken on face value, they might have been mummified for something else and when the "religious winds" changed in a buddhist sect, ye olde mummies from teachers were given new stories to bring more support money for the temple, they were quite shrewd on occasion.

[@zekehooper]

to funny about "The Snap"! Being brought back to where you were in a plan, but it is not there. Now you are falling.

[@thehermitman822]

The way he was talking made me start thinking about planes disappearing so the passengers fall then come back 5 years later for a second round of damage. 😂

[@alandy222]

I love the theory that the Nazis used the bell to escape to Venus! Think about that next time you see it in the night sky.

[@Rossman7133]

Good topic ❤

[@Whiskey0880]

You guys should look up the storyline of assassins creed revelations. There is so much in that one game that you talk about. Templars, an ancient civilisation wiped out by disaster (specifically a solar flare which is Robert schochs school of thinking), who leave behind advanced technology, and it's set in turkey, where you visit ancient caves....

[@aurorauplinks]

neura links will eventually be good and work well. imagine being able to envision an entire library in your mind, not just the data but the building, to build a 3d structure in your mind. to use science, physics, mathematics, just a few shifting of thoughts, reaching a sense of perfect understanding of your surroundings. not sure what it will do to our brains if we ever try to have humans not dependent on having those installed at a young age, but it is a powerful technology. we would probably be back at the stone age or worse if they all stopped working and have to re-evolve a lot of ways of thinking and doing things. maybe. maybe not. who is to say for sure. thats the advantage of being spread out to multiple star systems so if something goes bad at one, the others can send rescue teams, even if they had to use time travel to rescue everyone. assuming they wanted to rescue those that were lost however they were lost. really great ideas for new episodes of star trek or other ideas etc

[@jfp17]

Gary interviewing Dr. Emmett Brown confirmed.

[@briandain8432]

One of the Pet channels on KZbin had the Superb Owl stream. Cute little critters.

[@GreggsOverEZ]

And I've been reading it as Superb owl..

[@Dreckmal01]

I prefer Super Bowel

[@stable_confusion]

Mythenmetzger interviewed a Swiss guy who apparently was showed a gaint mumified appendix finger, (while he was researching in Egypt) also had photos. Was a really interesting watch. It's in german though so if anybodies interested you have to watch the subtitles.

[@imaginemyshock8067]

A frustrating thing in this video is an exciting idea gets raised and I'm hanging on to hear where it goes, and they either don't finish the sentence or are interrupted by someone. So instead of hearing something new, we get half formed notions that don't take us very far.

[@jeffhall768]

Also, there's a difference between traveling faster through time and time travel. The faster anything goes through space, the faster they move through time relative to everything else and that is not time travel.

[@thehermitman822]

There's a worry of some ancient disease thawing in the artic or antarctic but the problem with traveling back to the ancient past is carrying a disease back that wipes out the future or drastically changes the future.

[@MOE-db8oc]

Thank you so much for giving us content so we can completely ignore the Stupid Bowl. I am headed over to Razorfist next.

[@thehermitman822]

I found out it happened because of them and at least started looking for trailers 😂.

[@michaelminkler7267]

Make me think, could Medilla Effect??!!

[@petergalione1414]

The earth is moving through space. Time travel would result in showing up in empty space.

[@basvandiepen2772]

25:54 sounds like he made teleportation

[@phonic0photon]

FYI, Galaxies travel along Birkeland Currents, like Suns do. It is not yet known if there is a Universal centre.

[@thehermitman822]

That one long haired asian looking scientist said that everywhere is somehow the center of the universe.

[@CoalCoalJames]

Stargate movie is AMAZING, disregard Gary's hot take. Also I second that stargate series has some banger time travel and multi dimensional episodes.

[@drifter6870]

every time I see the line, I just think of a carpet bomb

[@Phillip_of_Burns]

The screw falling, or being held up, could be because he created a magnetic field. If the electricity dipped, because he's using way too much power, the magnet then could have fell to the floor.

[@greenmachine6638]

UFOs Over Leytonstone

[@williambrownlee9978]

Glad to see you back.

[@eprohoda]

Nerdrotic~ unusual ! 💫

[@iamnotyu5548]

1:07:00 it wasnt that they gave up, its that they bit off far more than they could chew. they had no access to oil and were heavily leveraged. Germany did have several advanced weapons that they simply had no way to mass produce and deploy. a problem both the US and Russia are running into today. in contrast, us strategy was quantity. the sherman tank wasnt the best, but it was good enough, cheap enough, easy to make and repair, ect. us could make dozens of them in the time and cost that the nazis could make a single tiger II. a big thing people get wrong about technology is they think when they see it, it was suddenly invented when the reality is these things have been around for a long time but the question is always can we make enough of them cheap enough and reliably enough for it to be effective. literally nothing in the iphone was new when it came out, apple simply put the right parts together at the right time and for the right price to boost the smartphone revolution. there are 100s of weapons technologies that you might believe only exist in videogames but actually have been built but have thus far proven to be impractical for use or production. what about a suit that makes a soldier invisible.....as long as he doesnt move...neat but useless. what about a coat of pain that would again make a tank impossible to see, except on thermal imagining where it would glow insanely brightly and makes the vehicle so hot its signature could be detected 100 miles away. again neat but useless on the battlefield. there is a completly different approach that doesnt seem as neat to us but far more useful, technology that can change the signature of a vecle and make a battleship look like a speedboat on sensor equipment. far more useful, not quite as neat

[@SilverHolland]

To go back to the build of the Sphinx, you might need to take a few tries. Go back 5,000 years at a time, to see whether it shows up? Careful not to land in the Nile. Then if it doesn't show up on one of the jumps, you'd need to jump back again and hope you didn't prevent its construction (or divine creation). Unless you in your (let's say second) jump 10,000 before present, someone tells you exactly how long it's been there. It might take a lot of tries. By the instant you get it right, there may be a huge statue of your time machine where you expected to find the Sphinx, and now the whole world has become suppressed by a religion in your image. Upon your arrival, you're get disarmed from ever jumping away, they need their gods/devils.

[@deoccultist]

The Canadian scifi show Continuum covered time travel in one of the best ways ever. So well done. Check it out.

[@Vault_tec_spy]

It be absolutely awesome if you guys got George Knapp on the show for and interview

[@SergeyBerengard]

1:46:15 Gary mentions a bunch of GOOD time travel shows and movies. What was the last one?? Please add more to the list... 🕐

[@failedgrace2891]

He said, Live Die Repeat. It's also called Edge of Tomorrow. My suggestions are Predestination with Ethan Hawke and A Sound of Thunder, which may be a little harder to find. The first is a more serious thriller while the second is a popcorn flick

[@SergeyBerengard]

@@failedgrace2891 Oh that one. Gocha. Thanks for clarifying and the suggestions!

[@ShumaniTatankaOwachi]

It’s more like Quantum Leap

[@talliyb]

Time travel is impossible without being able to travel through space simultaneously, because the solar system is moving insanely fast through space. If you time traveled, you'd end up in the middle of empty space.

[@joelpeet]

There are Shakey's Pizza in the Philippines still

[@Lars.442]

we will travel back to the year 199

[@scrappypirate2268]

Is it just me or does the bell which is supposedly more aerodynamic than a sphere is shaped like a minie ball musket bullet? This was a design used on ammo in unrifled muskets to make them more accurate

[@yassver]

My favourite subject

[@Privat846]

There is no time, time and space are an illusion , its the kick out from paradise if you like to see it . Theres only here and now .

[@SergeyBerengard]

The Line is the new Babel Tower

[@AlBQuirky]

Stein's Gate anime. All about tie travel and done well. Yup.Anime recommendation on Forbidden Frontier. LOL

[@markusjanus2151]

@ about 17:30, repost: just wanted to say that when you create time travel the person who goes through starts a multiverse journey, due to the fact that he changes history by just being there....

[@anonymoose9315]

Gary, QBG, why don’t you guys work on that website for Art Bell?

[@ojawall]

i lived in Vietnam 5 years to 2017, it is doing better but police often take coffee money from stores, businesses, traffic stops, police often collect money from many people in vietnam

[@deoccultist]

I wonder if Quinn Mallory in the show Sliders is loosely based on Mike Marcum.

[@cjo2012]

There is NO WAY you guys don't know about Joseph Farrell....

[@calvindeaton624]

I think it's a position thing as in the earth is rotating while it's rotating around the sun while the sun rotating around center of the milky way so if you want to go back or forward in time you have to be were in space you want to be before you go to when that's why you need something capable of space travel because were earth was is not were earth is

[@marcel1105]

Apart from the very interesting topics... Love how you guys try to pronounce german words ^^

[@JaBlade]

FYI, Fruit Of The Loom Cornucopia is real! Just saw a picture of an old shirt that had one in the logo. Im pretty sure my grandma has one in her closet still 😂

[@tiomkinnyborg2289]

Space and time is space-time. If you move in space, you move in time. So if a time machine existed it would move through space and time as a function. So going back one day would move you back one day in space as well as time. You would not find yourself stranded in space with the planet a million miles away.

[@joshyoder871]

1:40:40 Cleopatra was actually Marc Antony...

[@imaginemyshock8067]

The more I listen to this the more I wonder why Dutchsinse has not been contacted. He would be a mine of information on these subjects, including things I think these guys haven't heard about yet.

[@Donkey-Magic]

Time travel will only be possible in space its the only place you can be stationary. Just hope your ships still there in the future lol you cant go back in time for the same reason unless your TT machine is on the outside of your ship and you fly through.

[@Pauzix]

1:18:10 QBG rediscovering plot of Stargate Universe

[@MichaelS-pq1ep]

Short? They are talking about Tom Cruise.

[@Ishfein]

Tom Hardy should be Wolverine

[@imaginemyshock8067]

I want to know if the Die Glocke bell takes 9 millimeter ammunition.

[@franciscastiglione5832]

😂10mm it’s German; they dropped 9mm in favor of 10mm (lol that’s actually true).😂

[@christopheranthony4217]

Other Wolverine is Daniel Radcliffe, book it.

[@Adr1an511]

Cant find the bow and arrow supernova referance, did Garry mess up the name of the star? Or thats just me

[@soil-ew2nv]

According the Vulcan Science Institute, time travel is impossible.

[@EvidensInsania]

Trying to say the portal movement makes sense because of the Earth's rotation doesn't make any sense. We are not just rotating around our planet's axis, we're also traveling 67,000 mph around our sun, which is traveling at god knows what speed around our galaxy which is also traveling at an unthinkable speed. If you did some sort of time travel jump for just a second you would be in the middle of space.

[@The_Desert_Hero]

Xray Girl is my favourite big booty asian!

[@robertseptim3579]

She's top-heavy tho

[@Likexner]

​@@robertseptim3579Even better. Big booty, big boobies.

[@TheBrianhardkiss]

That’s the butterfly effect movie.

[@dallanlax]

Read the books by Mauro Biglino and Paul Wallis.

[@cooleycollege01]

You should watch Stein's Gate. A great anime about time travel, pretty in depth and even features cern as a evil organization and other Easter eggs

[@chrisgunther109]

I was just about to mention that! They basically keep describing the plot over and over.

[@RayloNormie]

Trump is MODOK. Calling it. That’s the only thing I can glean from Garrett’s statement

[@robertchadwell7146]

Eldredge sounds close to eldritch

[@DEFIANT_FILMS]

Please be Dredd urban

[@fefnireindraer144]

If you time travel to the past even 1 second you would be in deep space or inside the earth because we are moving through space at 1000 mph.

[@markusjanus2151]

@ about 30:00 min in, repost, if what your saying is true with the only E/W, 100 yrds, you can tell the time it's in linbo by triangulation.... time / distance = time (in limbo).

[@TheSabanrab]

We already know who the other Wolverine is 🤣😂🤣

[@dannyboy5008]

Who?

[@TheSabanrab]

@@dannyboy5008 not telling 😂

[@dannyboy5008]

@@TheSabanrab then you don't know, got it

[@TheSabanrab]

@@dannyboy5008 🤣😂😂it’s Harry Potter 😁

[@RetroPages]

If that's true, while I know that would sound cool to some people, I don't think Gary would be that stoked about Daniel Radcliffe. @@TheSabanrab

[@hobomaster6237]

love the show and love the boys , but you'd think after one year you guys get a little organized and coherent

[@edgarplummer6750]

Henry Cavil as Wolverine gotta be.