The music is not loud enough! I can still hear parts of the documentary :( What's the point of releasing a music video with so much background noise ?!
@hardygirl514 жыл бұрын
Hahaha; I see what you are saying--reverse psychology........
@banzaifx46794 жыл бұрын
Lol
@OneofInfinity.3 жыл бұрын
@@hardygirl51 🤦♂️
@hardygirl513 жыл бұрын
@@mike62mcmanus ARE YOU?? That's not the proper way to spell it either.........
@hardygirl513 жыл бұрын
@@mike62mcmanus My name is spelled the way it's supposed to be spelled. There are different ways to spell my name ust as there are different ways to spell Kris/Chris, Tony/Toni............
@michaeljohnson45745 жыл бұрын
I thought the music was going to wake richard
@lizrickaby73293 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@ANinjasMom3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@alleynealisleem97773 жыл бұрын
Yes Wake King Richard Up To Make Love To You! Your Batty Boy Man Lover is Waiting For You!!!🤣😠🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😱🤭
@trudies47913 жыл бұрын
@@alleynealisleem9777 There is something seriously wrong with you. Get help.
@alleynealisleem97773 жыл бұрын
@@trudies4791 what do you mean!!!
@winonajohnston25395 жыл бұрын
I AGREE WITH DAVID HENDERSON!!!!! What an educational, informative beautiful documentary that was 3/4 ruined by loud music, bird sounds, etc. drowning out Mr.Robinson!!! I was SO disappointed and aggravated!!! SHAME ON the producers on allowing this when it could have been a 5-STAR creation!!!!!!!
@beeftec58622 жыл бұрын
The original broadcast will have been fine sound wise. The freebie youtube video is a poor copy; you get what you pay for.
@ncaa12cfb92 Жыл бұрын
Great grandpa get some yearning aids it’s not that bad
@KABModelsExtra Жыл бұрын
Your caps lock and exclaimation buttion seems to be broken, they seem to keep coming on and off at random points and getting stuck
@frederikbjerre427 Жыл бұрын
They never learn.
@lisalambrecht6676 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@DamoBloggs6 жыл бұрын
Would have been a good documentary - if it was n't for that idiotic background music
@ytv316 жыл бұрын
Morteus can't agree more, it's soo irritating!
@lorianneiacobellis22565 жыл бұрын
agreed
@reh3ddoes5 жыл бұрын
Yep, the editor and producer should be fired. I lasted 2 minutes.
@davidcartledge66205 жыл бұрын
@@circusbrains yeah more cowbell
@jleditzig5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean foreground music?
@jillianaprati1086 жыл бұрын
That music is so distracting. In parts I could hardly hear the narrator.
@bigmoniesponge4 жыл бұрын
In some parts I couldnt hear him at all!
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@vilstef69885 жыл бұрын
Many of these documentaries presented by Tony Robinson seem to suffer from miserable sound mixing.
@sairysv86253 жыл бұрын
The music's not bad I think... it's just that its placed as the forefront when it's the narrator who should be the most audible. 🤷♀️🤦♀️
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.😊
@signovsiv11255 жыл бұрын
No one: Absolutely no one: Producers: let’s add some funky music so that no one can hear what he says :D
@professorminstrels646012 күн бұрын
I could hear what was said perfectly fine
@siriuslee96156 жыл бұрын
Isn't background music supposed to be just that ?
@angiemcintosh55436 жыл бұрын
I can't hear anything but the loud music.
@professorminstrels646012 күн бұрын
You must be deaf
@kudu422 жыл бұрын
If Richard killed Edwards sons, why did he not also kill George's son, whose claim to the throne was arguably stronger than his (Richards) - also, at the time of the alleged murder of the princes, the Constable of the Tower was Lord Stanley. No-one could have got to the boys without his knowledge. Stanley promised to fight for Richard at Bosworth, but in the event he reneged on that promise and stood off during the battle. Stanley was married to Lady Margaret Beaufort, mother of Henry Tudor, later Henry 7th - what a coincidence!
@ashleyleonard81482 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. I say this all the time...Lord Stanley is always sus. And honestly, I believe he was hedging his vets. 1. He thought "hey. If they die, and Richard wins, maybe he'll have one less claim off his plate? And if Henry wins, he'll thank me". He was trying to determine he'd be in power regardless, before the Battle of Bosworth.
@lyndsaycrawford2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps cos it was also his wife’s nephew
@lyndsaycrawford2 жыл бұрын
And what a coincidence that Edward V & prince Richard were illegitimate, as well as their father & anyone who would’ve opposed Richard was executed. A lot of convenient coincidences put Riii on the throne
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
If Richard had killed his nephews, he would have declared they died of one of the many diseases endemic to children, had Masses said for their souls and given them proper and public burials. Elizabeth Woodville’s daughters would have had every right to the crown with their brothers dead. Richard never showed anything but kindness to them and to their mother. When Bishop Stillington revealed that he had plight trothed Edward and Eleanor Butler he obviously had some kind of evidence. Richard had nothing to do with this announcement. He was not even at the meeting. Far from killing George’s son, after his own son died, Richard was planning to remove George’s attainder and make young Edward his heir. Edward was later executed by Henry VIII. Between Henry VII and Henry VIII, all of the Yorkist heirs were killed. The only two whose fates remain unknown are Edward and Richard, Edward IV sons. There is an entry in the account rolls of Margaret of Burgundy of money paid for the raising of Yorkist children (or heirs, I’ve seen both words used). Who were these children?k
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
@@lyndsaycrawford Richard had very few people executed. His worst move was forgiving Stanley and his wife, Margaret Beaufort.
@lucinaburgos22846 жыл бұрын
Very good but the music is kind of loud.
@larciabella6 жыл бұрын
very loud
@karenhall46456 жыл бұрын
Just what I was thinking!
@racheldemain19404 жыл бұрын
Yes, too loud.
@shaneculkin71243 жыл бұрын
Yes. Mixed improperly
@GirlPowerGirlStrong3 жыл бұрын
Do the editors not realize that the music drowns out the voiceover?!?!
@alancoe10023 жыл бұрын
Let's put Richard in some perspective. William the Conqueror depopulated Yorkshire. John, numerous murders, including his nephew Arthur, the true heir. Edward I, numerous slaughters in Wales and Scotland. Edward III, started Hundred Years War. Richard II, arbitrarily deprived Henry, Duke of Lancaster of his inheritance, sowing the seeds of his own deposition which would lay the foundations for the Wars of the Roses. Henry V, who re-kindled the Hundred Years War, leading to slaughters of French civilians. Edward IV, who would have numerous opponents put to death for treason, without trial, people who had never sworn fealty to him, staying true to Henry VI. He also had Henry VI bludgeoned to death in the Tower, soon after the battle of Tewksbury had seen the death of Henry's only son and the capture of his Queen. Henry never abdicated, or was 'tried' in any way. Murder was unnecessary. I am not a Ricardian. He was a ruthless man, who saw the boys lives as his death, by the Woodville faction, and who would seek to atone for his sins by funding an unprecedented number of chantries to placate his God, and by attempting some reforms. But, it was not enough to keep those who believed he had killed the boys from overthrowing him. Many of his older brother Edward IV's servants would seek vengeance by means of a relatively obscure exile. So, as tyrants go, there were certainly worse. I wouldn't put Henry VII in that category, unless you include the pecuniary measures, fines, suspended sentences. He disliked shedding blood unnecessarily: witness his mercy with Lambert Simnel, and, at first, with Perkin Warbeck, and, for quite a while, with Warwick. To secure the Spanish Marriage for Prince Arthur and the succession, he 'tried' Warbeck and Warwick for conspiracy and treason and put them to death. He, too, likely felt that it may have cursed his son, in the end. But the worst thing he did was to bring Henry VIII into being. There's your tyrant. Many thousands killed just in the case of The Pilgrimage Of Grace. If Richard had been victorious at Bosworth, he likely would have been seen as a ruthless but just ruler, who had come to the throne by unfortunate means. There certainly had been (and would be) much worse.
@NinjaGrrrl77342 жыл бұрын
If I was wealthy, I would pay someone like you to teach me history. I'm trying to learn, at this late date, with my thick old noggin. I've learned some, enough to follow what you've said and remember most of it from other knowledge. But you have a far more ranging perspective than I do, because you know so much more. I aspire to be like you. So, for whatever it's worth, you're a teacher, a guide, and a hero to someone. Carry on!
@mangot5892 жыл бұрын
All this is true. The problem is looking at it through modern eyes, a futile endeavor, unless you understand the medieval mind. You don’t even have to understand it, but to realize they thought completely different than we do now.
@valaryward84522 жыл бұрын
Lies.. Just like the white washing. If he did kill someone’s it was in self defense. Probably an intruder trying to steal his property, land or someone else.. John Ward City on a Hill or Winthrop mean friendly village, The messenger. Or Allah you pick. The grandfather of Richard Ward
@mortalclown38122 жыл бұрын
Dr. Coe, I presume? 🤗 Great overview of a subject I've only learned in quilt pieces... and from a certain playwright, I'll confess. Thanks for the micro lesson in Richard
@pk68102 жыл бұрын
I wish I could word my thoughts and conclusions as well as you. Couldn't agree more.
@Eastmead6 жыл бұрын
Gave up on this as the crappy music was drowning the words. Whoever edited it ought to be made to listen to it on an endless loop!
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@Boozakk3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved Tony Robinson. Shame I can’t hear him though.
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@lindathomas5500 Жыл бұрын
Actually sod all to do with uploading to KZbin, it’s on their original.
@Thedude592 жыл бұрын
music makes this unwatchable.
@thewayofthegunn6 жыл бұрын
The vocal and music tracks are way out of balance.
@robincupp60875 жыл бұрын
But it turns out he was deformed by scoliosis. When they recovered the body there it was.
@Elisabeth08014 жыл бұрын
Na not really 'deformed', he just had one shoulder higher than the other. Scoliosis isn't that bad
@PomegranateStaindGrn4 жыл бұрын
Lisa Maria Wilhelmine scoliosis can be extremely severe and cause incredible deformity. I’ve seen a case where the young woman’s ribs on one side met her pelvis.
@Elisabeth08014 жыл бұрын
@@PomegranateStaindGrn yeah I know that I have scoliosis too but the case you described is an extreme case. And it's known that the Tudors and Shakespeare were propaganda Masters against Richard lll. So it's likely that they exaggerated too when they said that he had a hump
@pensandshakers4 жыл бұрын
Scoliosis can be corrected and aided with braces, which they would have been capable of creating. Plus, the training of the time would have forced him to stand straight, ride, and battle. The documentary popularly known comparing a modern young man with scoliosis with Richard is deeply flawed in its conception. And one high shoulder doesn't make him a hunchback cripple. The most recent portrayal - by Benedict Cumberbatch - is extreme and likely exaggerated.
@tevansmith4 жыл бұрын
@Felix Ray you said all this much more clearly than I was about to. Thanks.
@Sn0rmoms6 жыл бұрын
The sound is atrocious. It made following the documentary nearly impossible and, at times, uncomfortable.
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@lacouerfairy5 жыл бұрын
So I'm assuming this documentary was created before they found his bones in the parking lot?
@bonnielong58124 жыл бұрын
lacouerfairy yes
@chris79214 жыл бұрын
lacouerfairy Car Park, Dear. We are British!
@llcoollee50753 жыл бұрын
@@chris7921 the best part of watching that documentary of them exhumation of the bones was seeing that woman from the Richard The 3rd society’s dreams crushed when the proved he was indeed a hunch back.
@rubbishwithisabella14553 жыл бұрын
@@llcoollee5075 He wasn’t a hunchback, he had scoliosis. My cousin has scoliosis and it’s not medically considered to be a hunchback, you can barely see the difference between someone with scoliosis and someone with the usual placed spine.
@slyaspie49343 жыл бұрын
@@llcoollee5075 my god that woman was an overly dramatic, wet blanket lol I admire her passion but can you imagine working with her, you can see in that documentary everyone is constantly on eggshells incase she starts having a breakdown lol unprofessional and awkward at best
@danyelacastro16 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing someone was having too much fun with his synthesizer? Wayyyyy to much 😂
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@HistoryMarche6 жыл бұрын
This came just in time for my work break. Thank you!
@kingjulien82753 жыл бұрын
Lovely to see you here!
@TheSquad4life6 жыл бұрын
wtf I really wanted to enjoy this documentary but the loud music is overwhelming the narration, smh what an amateur production
@stussypoo5 жыл бұрын
lol im DOP on this? ur acc peak
@johannnespaul43004 жыл бұрын
its just at the beginning
@terencemichaels6 жыл бұрын
ruined by the loud music
@Skeptic782 жыл бұрын
The music makes this unwatchable.
@printingtimeandspace3 жыл бұрын
I went to a concert the other night, and a documentary broke out.
@hreader6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting documentary - but wish they'd KILL the stupid, intrusive music!
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@dconaway28776 жыл бұрын
background music is NOT in the background. Drowns out narration in parts, Pretty annoying if you are interested in the topic
@charlesmynhier26522 жыл бұрын
You need to turn the volume of that music up, I can still hear some of what is being said.
@Kleinfurkon5 жыл бұрын
Throw the complete soundtrack away and you'd have the beginnings of a good documentary
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@StephiSensei264 жыл бұрын
Timeline always outdoes itself with food for thought! Thank you again Tony Robinson!
@bobredman20576 жыл бұрын
When I try to fairly evaluate Richard III, leaving aside the two princes, what stick in my craw are the murders of Rivers and Hastings.
@thatswhatisaid89083 жыл бұрын
I can understand River's, he was one of the hated Woodvilles, but Hastings... Beheaded without trial or even a priest to confess, and so publicly.
@susanmccormick60222 жыл бұрын
Um.That bothers me too & I am a Ricardian.Diccon did blame Edward's early death on Hastings.But Vaughn,Richard Grey & the extremely talented Anthony Rivers were only carrying out Elizabeth's orders
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
Rivers and Hastings were both tried and convicted. Richard was not present at either trial Rivers was attempting to take Richard’s position as Lord Protector and Hastings conspired with Morton, Stanley and Jane Shore to assassinate Richard.
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
@@susanmccormick6022They took their chances and lost.
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
Hastings was tried a week after his arrest. He was convicted of treason.
@anthonymaddox65153 жыл бұрын
The facts are that Richard had his nephews imprisoned in the Tower. Richard made himself king. The boys disappeared while he was king and they were in his "care" at the time. He was in charge and even if he did not do the deed himself, he is still responsible for what happened. He is guilty by any measure.
@janetpattison84742 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I write in another comment about how I’d never heard the story, but dreamt about it in detail, and indeed, Richard demanded the boys be killed.
@lisalking24762 жыл бұрын
In today's legal terms,Guilty by association 😞
@marksmangaming93062 жыл бұрын
The Tower of London acted as both a prison and a palace, many 'royals' were kept there not just the boys. Elizabeth I and Mary Queen of Scots, Lady Jane Grey for example. As the boys had been already declared illegitimate Richard had no need to disappear them as he was declared King by Parliament. George's son (also Richard) had a better claim than Richard but was an infant yet Richard named him his heir on the death of his own son. So with 3 males all with a legitimate or illegitimate claim to the throne better than Richard if he was going to murder why not murder all 3? In the event Richard only lasted 2 years as King anyway leaving Henry VII to become king by act of conquest (like William I).
@susanmccormick60222 жыл бұрын
@@marksmangaming9306 Called Right of Conquest & the usurper king didn't lift a finger in.the Battle.In fact he was preparing to flee.Those turncoat Stanleys were responsible for Diccon's death!RIP Richard.You should have been laid to rest in your beloved Yorkshire Lord of the North.
@lyndsaycrawford2 жыл бұрын
@@susanmccormick6022 it doesn’t matter, they were victorious no one cares who fought bravely. Richard charged bravely right into his enemies & was killed so who really had the last laugh. & Richard had Stanley’s stepson held hostage to ensure Stanley’s loyalty. How on earth is that supposed to inspire genuine loyalty?
@kevinjamesparr5523 жыл бұрын
You did not look into this too far .Evidence is firmly set in the words of Bishop Morton. Richard was framed to set a new King on our throne . Richard was an able bodied fighter .His twisted spine did not affect his ability to swings a sword or ride a horse as he had a full stable
@leanie52342 жыл бұрын
@@C-eo1rt didn't his unearthed skeleton PROVE that he did indeed have scoliosis ? There is a very interesting video about a remarkable young man, named Dominic, who shares Richard's diagnosis, and who illustrates clearly that one man's debilitating condition is another man's opportunity to shine. In other words, Richard would not necessarily have been "disabled" to the extent that his affliction was obvious.
@lyndsaycrawford2 жыл бұрын
Evidence is a word that is thrown around far too easily where this case is concerned. Most “evidence” I’ve been directed to regarding Ricardian theories are never peer reviewed or been subject to any academic scrutiny. What you’re actually saying is he didn’t look into enough to suit your narrative or some romanticised idea of Richard being set up.
@bopbopanna Жыл бұрын
@@leanie5234 Usain Bolt also has scoliosis. He has to adjust his stride to accommodate it.
@Moose.-vy5ye Жыл бұрын
Lyndsaycrawford, To what evidence do you refer?
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
Richard led the military from the age of 17.
@anniegetchergun3 жыл бұрын
I “love” Richard III. After seeing his skeleton being found, researching and watching his reburial, I think he was badly portrayed and unfairly maligned in history.
@perniciouspete49863 жыл бұрын
To the extent possible so far, everything negative said about Richard III has been proven to be true.
@jaybee12482 жыл бұрын
@@C-eo1rt actually he didn’t try to prove it which would have looked much better on his part. He could have taken steps to prove it and investigated all available contemporary sources like the woman’s family who he claimed was pre contracted to his brother prior to Edward IV’s marriage to Elizabeth woodville, or requesting the papal authorities to investigate the claims made by the priest he said performed the alleged ceremony. Only making these claims after his brother’s death and the death of alleged bride who could have given testimony, removing and or executing any members of the privy council and relatives of the dowager Queen who would object, it’s pretty obvious he wasn’t looking for truth he was looking for power. I have no idea if he murdered his nephews but he did imprison them and he had charge of them when they disappeared and anyone who has studied history knows that if you don’t eliminate any threats to your rule as king, you run the risk of leaving someone for people to get behind in order to overthrow you.
@robbiecrossing94472 жыл бұрын
How do you come to that conclusion from seeing a skeleton??
@Grace-tc1lq2 жыл бұрын
Annie Mars - Why? Serious question.
@jaycee23922 жыл бұрын
evil piggy!! 🤡
@karencawthorn31735 жыл бұрын
In the painting of Richard 111 he looks in pain not mean.
@thomaswhittaker41375 жыл бұрын
@ Karen Cawthorn He may have been in pain, his skeleton showed he had scoliosis and arthritis in his spine.
@gloriaswims34786 жыл бұрын
Can't watch anymore. THe music!!!!
@arwenitaofdoom90416 жыл бұрын
The music ruins everything how can this be so badly done?
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@LauraGlorybelle6 жыл бұрын
The audio is so distracting! Imbalanced and unnecessary background music.
@ScarletTsubasa6 жыл бұрын
Why is the music so loud? I can't hear some of what the presenter is saying because it drowns his voice out several times. Plenty of other videos you have uploaded don't have this issue. It there any way you guys could fix it?
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@johnvoyce2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What would we do without the funky music? Perhaps we might hear a little more about Richard III.
@guyfaulkes30356 жыл бұрын
Horrible sound track mixing is becoming too common with these newly-posted docs on YT. The issues are always the same: music is TOO LOUD, the narrator's voice is too low, and other dialog goes up and down in volume, making adjustments necessary every 30 seconds. It ruins what would otherwise be a good viewing experience. Do the people who re-mix these TV docs for the Internet not know what they are doing with the audio? Are they hiring deaf people to do the work?
@Account.for.Comment4 жыл бұрын
If you ever do music or video editing, you'll find out that exported results look and sound differently in different devices. The sound might work great in the uploader' s computer but became terrible in our product due to the different decoding protocols. And the uploader may be too lazy to reedit the audio and upload a new video, so we have what we have. Hope that explains it. The music is also terrible in my device, but I can at least hear the voices, so I focus on that. Luckily, this is not a movie.
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@MsDjessa5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the bad things Richard did can be excused by pointing to the time he lived. As no doubt future people could do the same for us. How ever I think the lesson is most people aren't either completely good or bad. Richard being a great example of that. And I do mean great.
@Moose.-vy5ye Жыл бұрын
Msdjessa, Bad things? Such as what? Before you go on about his nephews, be aware that there is zero evidence that Richard did anything of the sort. In fact, if they were killed at all, it was more likely that Buckingham or Margaret Beaufort did it.
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
@@Moose.-vy5yeI think Richard sent the boys to his sister in Burgundy after Henry Tudor’s first attempt to invade England. I think Edward died from the abscess in his jaw and that young Richard emerged as Perkin Warbeck.
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
There’s no evidence that Richard did “bad things”. He was considered, at the time, to be a progressive and benevolent king.
@lyndsaycrawford Жыл бұрын
I think Richard iii is a fantastic example of being a man of his time. & no one is simply good or bad! We just need to be aware that life was far more brutal back then & the peerage were the most vulnerable. Especially , with the war of the roses still happening, power was fleeting Firstly, I believe Edward iv made a grave mistake giving Rivers guardianship & naming Richard lord protector, Edward V hardly knew his uncle Richard & would’ve definitely formed a bond with the men raising him ( Rivers & Vaughan) Edward iv should’ve had Richard raise him. With the civil war still looming, when Edward iv died, I believe Richard knew there was a power vacuum & he had to get custody of the young king cos if he didn’t he would’ve probably been executed or exiled himself as he would always be viewed as a threat by the Woodville faction. And they did have great influence over the young king & held a lot of powerful positions. (A bit of nepotism would’ve probably served Edward iv better tbh) I believe Richard underestimated just how much influence & how close he’d became with his guardians. I also believe he misread the nobles who were extremely loyal to Edward iv & expected nothing more than to crown his eldest son & heir. No one would’ve wanted another civil war. Imo Riii ended up with no other choice & he seemed to exhaust every avenue before turning to having them killed , imo, I do believe it came down to him or them & Machiavelli would say that was acting in self defence. He was in very real danger if he did nothing so it’s like politicking but one wrong move & you’re dead. In medieval times it was possible to be a decent king , celebrated war hero, brilliant guy n still get rid of claimants to the throne. Especially when they’re likely to inspire rebellion. That’s why I think he was a man of his time because it was dog eat dog & ppl had to do things & make decisions we couldn’t comprehend never mind relate too.
@jakshar6 жыл бұрын
Sound is bad, the music is far too loud
@frugalmama69465 жыл бұрын
well now we know he was buried by the monastary, never dug up, and never thrown away so how much of this tale is true as well?
@ediekathan0716 жыл бұрын
Interesting story...but the loud sound effects and music are louder than the dialogue in some spots
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@KuwabaraAngel962 жыл бұрын
So, even if Edward the Fourth was illegitimate, he still would have been King by right of Conquest. I quote from the movie "The King".... " all monarchies are illegitimate"
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
Edward IV was not illegitimate. He was born three weeks early. All of my kids were born three weeks early and they all weighed over 8 pounds. No medieval noble woman would cheat on her husband before the first son. Cecily Neville travelled with her husband constantly. They obviously had a happy marriage.According to English common law, no child born to a married woman can be illegitimate.
@wenthulk84392 ай бұрын
It was later proven that Edward the 4th was legitimate
@denniswild56033 жыл бұрын
the tudors right from their graves deliberatley raised the volume of the background noise here, so nobody gets to know about the details surrounding the unsolved "death" of the two too-young-to-be-kings
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@wuipuichang6114 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Exciting information and well done too. I coped with the music issue that so many complain of. Just turn up your volume to hear the narration. It works!! Thanks again ☺
@stephaniejane3066 жыл бұрын
Interesting documentary. Of course some facts are have now been proven to be true. Richard did have a severe form of scolosis. However through all the layers of the time, it could hardly been seen. I think the people who knew of it that were still at court in the Tudor times drastically overplayed the "hunchback". We now know that he was buried in what is now a carpack in Leicestershire. I'm glad at least this documentary mention Henry Tudors mother had a motive. However, why has no one mention Richards wife Anne. She was Queen, the king makers daughter and had a lot of power. Perhaps she has a lot more to do with this than we might think. She could easily have access to the Tower or order someone to kill the boys. Plus since Richard had always been loyal why the quick change of character? The playing nice and then completely changing after a little time leaving the room? Could someone been quietly manipulating him behind the scenes like Anne? I guess we will never know. Also Henry Tudors claim is through his mother not his father. His mother's line was legitimize by the pope so he did have a proper claim. The "spoiling" of the line by Elizabeth of York would not really matter. Besides the current royal family's claim is based on Sophia of Hanover so it wouldn't really matter. Plus just because Richard Duke of York was like the documentary said not there at the proper "time" does not mean Edward was not conceived later and born early but happened to survive. Perhaps not all documentation survived from the Cathedral. We just don't know. Anyway good documentary overall. The music and scene sound was way too high and could hardly hear the narrator.
@hayleyjames78936 жыл бұрын
My feeling is that Buckingham had the boys murdered it is highly possible he hated the Woodvilles since he was fond of idea that someone of his rank had been forced to marry a lowly Woodville. After the Hastings execution Buckingham was in charge of Morton a staunch Lancastrian supporter. Buckingham was constable of England and would most probably had access to the tower. After having a falling out with Richard, who was on royal progress, he went to his estates in Brecon and released Morton who went to Henry Tudors Mother.
@idontgiveafaboutyou6 жыл бұрын
What would Anne have to gain from their murder? Plus, she may have been the Kingmakers daughter and was extremely wealthy, which made her powerful, but she didn’t seem to hold any political influence and probably didn’t want too. Plus she wasn’t that manipulative or scheming as people make out to be.
@phyllisruthmick53915 жыл бұрын
You know I don't even know where to begin! There are so many things that I disagree with! But mainly you are trying to imply that others had a motive to kill those two little boys and that is outrageous! Others at the time barely had extremely vague motives at best! It was Richard Plantagenet Duke of Gloucester who was behind the disappearance and murders of the two boys. It does not matter if he had a servant kill them and none of the other facts surrounding this really matter that much either. Richard killed them, had them killed, whatever, and that is absolutely unconscionable. Whatever good he may have done, whatever rights he may have had, have been blackened by his actions towards those two boys. Simple as that!!! This may be the internet but one should still have good and careful grammar although I have seen a lot worse.
@renshiwu3055 жыл бұрын
@@phyllisruthmick5391 Those accusing Richard of murdering his own nephews should explain what reasons Richard had for murdering them. They should also explain the dramatic change exhibited by Richard: from his brother's right-hand man to the plotting tyrant intent on dispossessing King Edward IV's heirs, if that is indeed the case. What motives would Richard have for murdering his own nephews? He was already king, Parliament had acceded to it. Even if he claimed that they had died in captivity, as was done with Richard II and Henry VI, it would have suggested that he was a murderer. Moreover, their disappearance (and neither Richard III nor Henry VII ever made a statement about the fate of the two princes) would make it seem like Richard was insecure about his own legitimacy and security on the throne. Richard had his other nephew (the Duke of Clarence's son) and his nieces (Edward IV's daughters) under his wardship, and they were perfectly safe and comfortable. As the video says, it was customary for the incoming monarch to reside at the Tower prior to their coronation. Young Richard was probably there as well to keep the two of them secure from plots (and there seems to have been an assault on the Tower). Both the Duke of Buckingham and Lord Stanley held the office of Lord Constable, in which position, they had authority over the operations of the Tower. Buckingham's motives for murdering the princes are obscure, but, then, so is Buckingham's career. He was outside the coterie of power during Edward's reign, despite his rank and marriage to the queen's sister. He was given great authority and wealth by Richard, but he nonetheless revolted against Richard's rule and cast his lot with Henry Tudor. He was also a descendant of Edward III, like all the contenders for the throne during the Wars of the Roses. Lord Stanley was of course married to Henry Tudor's mother, and being the step-father of the king is better than being a mere servant of the king. Stanley was a turncoat with regularity, switching sides and pledging loyalty to the winner of the battle after the fact. Buckingham and Stanley both had opportunity to kill or "disappear" the princes, they both had close affiliation with the throne, and they both acted as traitors. Their characters and motives single them out as more likely culprits in the disappearance of the two princes compared to Richard.
@sabrinadupont20174 жыл бұрын
@@idontgiveafaboutyou true
@davidsexton66044 жыл бұрын
Oi ! Robinson why are you not wearing gloves when handling those historic books !
@johnentwhistlesurelysamsun18404 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with David Sexton, gloves should have been worn when handling those historical books, they of course are absolutely irrepleaceable, and with Richard Duke of Gloucesters signiture on them!!
@rubbishwithisabella14553 жыл бұрын
@@johnentwhistlesurelysamsun1840 In the burial of Richard III the priest (I don’t know if it was a priest, I’m just gonna say the priest) was holding a prayer book that used to be Richards’ without gloves and I was so annoyed.
@Grace-tc1lq2 жыл бұрын
Well, he would have been following instructions. A lot of archives now won’t let you wear gloves so don’t blame him unless you know the full story.
@idaornstein1305 Жыл бұрын
Allow me to add: I’m re-reading Josephine Tey’s wonderful book on Richard third called: “The Daughter Of Time” And there’s plenty in it which tends exonerate him from being the 2 nephews killer.
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
There is that entry in Margaret of Burgundy’s account rolls of money allocated “for the raising of Yorkist heirs”. We know what happened to the family of York after Bosworth. HenryVII killed most of them and HenryVIII wiped out the couple that remained. It was the Tudors who were murderous monsters, not Richard.
@Ann1268111 ай бұрын
Daughter of Time is a wonderful book, that was very popular over 50 years ago and opened up many discussions of was Richard 111 vilified by Shakespeare.
@lyndsaycrawford9 ай бұрын
It’s historical fiction which means she had the advantage of not having to stick to the facts & logistics when it suited the plot.
@AlexanDrMoskalenko5 жыл бұрын
Nice try, Mr.Robinson. Everybody knows that Richard III was killed by Prince Blackadder, and some man called Baldrick was helping him to cover it up
@shirleylane1312 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@lisalking24762 жыл бұрын
Since discovery of the children's bone couldn't they too be DNA tested???
@irajayrosen47926 жыл бұрын
All the background sounds & music drowns out the voice over. Annoying
@harrietallen20404 жыл бұрын
I love Tony Robinson. I think there should be a Tony Robinson appreciation club.
@susanmccormick60222 жыл бұрын
My boss worked for him for a time.
@TheStephanie7156 жыл бұрын
impossible to understand......the music is annoying . The documentary, thought provoking
@pennynorthcutt58336 жыл бұрын
Background music is much to loud
@ecklecticgal70095 жыл бұрын
Even the crows are louder than the speakers!
@halimfusianto2256 жыл бұрын
Auto generated translation help me a lot since the music background louder than Richard III.
@alanj85775 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@gilliangrannum19786 жыл бұрын
Terrible sound track. Music exceedingly distracting and very strange, given the subject matter.
@sasca8546 жыл бұрын
Did you guys not proof watch this before releasing it? Lol.
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@moon_eye6 жыл бұрын
wow the music is so loud :o
@shirleylane1312 жыл бұрын
Love Tony Robinson, a brilliant story teller .
@TheLawDawg6 жыл бұрын
Having discovered his body we now know that he did have scoliosis and had a very twisted back. The rest is still speculation but those who claim his deformity was made up have been forced to accept the truth.
@alvarosager92066 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean he was a hunchback though, nor anything near it. Clearly his deformity was massively exaggerated to hurt his image.
@ScarletTsubasa6 жыл бұрын
I actually have scoliosis. Aside from uneven shoulders most people can't even tell I have it. I don't think it would make most people have hunchbacks
@TheKeyser946 жыл бұрын
Speculation that David Jones and David Starkey don't want to hear anything about it, nothing to destroy the image of their beloved Tudors of being the best thing that happen to England, and how they "reconstruct" England from the ashes.
@Vegetaworshipper926 жыл бұрын
Richard III had special shoes made to compensate for his scoliosis, so he DID have a physical deformity/handicap. Doesn't mean he had a "hunched" back though.
@ethanramos44416 жыл бұрын
Alva Rosager Richard III wasn’t Hunchback. Scoliosis only made his spine curved
@dellajoycebairdmoses78905 жыл бұрын
The sound of music overwhelmed the speaking of the narrator. Very aggravating to say the least. 😪
@Bob.martens6 жыл бұрын
Aah, Timeline: home of the botched audio docs.
@amplifitnessuk Жыл бұрын
Shame that the music was so loud.
@janethagaman3946 жыл бұрын
Not only is the music too loud, so are the battle noises, the birds, and any other background noise. Sometimes all you hear is a whisper from Tony. Tony makes for excellent documentaries, too bad the sound engineer is not as good. Doesn't' anyone review a program before putting it out there? Such a shame I feel like I missed a lot. To bad the CC's aren't any good either, because that's just another way to go, if your not hearing what's being said.
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@ashatteberry21274 жыл бұрын
I cant even watch the rest of this because the damn music is so freaking loud, its given me a migraine.
@gunsprotector20005 жыл бұрын
good documentary. but the music makes me couldn't heard what tony was saying
@TMMS-136 жыл бұрын
Great video but some of the music is louder than the talking
@SyriusStarMultimedia4 жыл бұрын
This music was added as a means to stop me from hearing Tony.
@merakitra2 жыл бұрын
The background music just ruined the whole video, I had to keep pressing the volume control up an down!
@janetlemaire3335 жыл бұрын
Background music is so loud I can't hear what Tony is saying
@idaornstein1305 Жыл бұрын
The music is much too loud! Tone it down!
@deanvrabl4 жыл бұрын
Omg..... Why is that music so loud?
@grahamcox78883 жыл бұрын
They pick on Richard the third because it's a good story. "He probably murdered his nephews but is not the monster he's made out to be"
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that young Richard outlived his uncle. Edward had a serious abscess in his jaw which, without antibiotics, might well have killed him.
@grahamcox7888 Жыл бұрын
@@nbenefiel where is evidence?
@TheMarksman3163 жыл бұрын
Funny thing was, Baldrick (Tony Robinson) picked up Richard III's head after Blackadder killed his grand uncle. lol
@jeaniejones74315 жыл бұрын
Music is so loud, I can’t heard the words. Why?
@jerithblackstone93276 жыл бұрын
I don't know the thought process behind adding the music to the video. The music is horribly annoying and WAY too loud. I really hope you didn't pay someone to ruin the video because that's exactly what the music did.
@leanie96605 жыл бұрын
Seems more like a defective tv stereo. The television in my bedroom does this as well. On one documentary, the seagulls were so loud that the dialogue was unintelligible. This was due to a disconnected speaker inside the cabinet. Easy fix.
@jimmydonohue45045 жыл бұрын
great facts and content, but the music has got to go or get much softer!
@chachadodds58605 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I'd never heard about the French archives, on Edward's birth. Although, the researcher here, portrays Edward as the 1st son, and Richard, as the 2nd, when Edmund, was the second son. Curious faux pas. As others have pointed out, too bad the background soundtrack, became the prominent soundtrack, drowning out the narrator.
@leanie52342 жыл бұрын
You forgot about George, Duke of Clarence....
@lyndsaycrawford2 жыл бұрын
Richard is technically their 4th son.
@lyndsaycrawford2 жыл бұрын
There are no french archives in Edward IV’s birth. There’s a parchment in the annals of a cathedral in Rouen of people who were in the cathedral praying & cecily’s name is listed. So for some crazy reason this is being passed off as evidence that Cecily was praying round about the time Edward should’ve been conceived. She could’ve did both in one night. Not that we even have the means to find out exactly when a child was conceived now, never mind over 500yrs ago. Like all Ricardian theories, it’s been bent & shaped to suit & justify Richards terrible actions. As usual it’s a desperate stretch!
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
There’s no evidence of Richard’s “terrible actions” He had no reason to kill his nephews. If he had, he would have done what EdwardIV did with HenryVI, presented their bodies to the public, have a doctor say they died from natural causes and buried them with due pomp and circumstance. Having them just vanish did more harm than good. Richard was not stupid when he erred, it was through kindness Ike sparing Stanley and Morton, which cost him his life and his reputation.
@wasntme777 Жыл бұрын
terrible Video Quality. Music is way to loud so you can hardly hear what is said!
@jmtubbs16396 жыл бұрын
unwatchable due to sound levels and music interference.
@Min-xm8tp6 жыл бұрын
No, had to leave it at 8 mins. Music way too loud!! Shame!!!
@dellajoycebairdmoses78905 жыл бұрын
Now we know why libraries are so quiet! 🥴
@tomallen61175 жыл бұрын
Needs subtitles. That music is too loud..
@heatherfeather12935 жыл бұрын
Darn it!! Wanted to watch this, but the music is so loud! Can barely hear the narrator
@emilykosoff65775 жыл бұрын
The background music needs to be turned down alot
@kevinjohnbetts6 жыл бұрын
I think the audio is one side of a stereo image or just the front of a surround sound mix. Tony Robinson's voice is more than loud enough at some points and dreadfully quiet at others. The original television show was fine so blame the provider not the sound engineer. :)
@guyfaulkes30356 жыл бұрын
It might've been an original 5.1 channel mix, where music occupied 4 channels (the corners) and Tony's voice just the 1 center channel, so he got buried by the music in the mix-down to stereo. I wonder if KZbin streams their multichannel videos in surround-sound for 5.1 systems? Maybe it's the 2-channel audio circuitry in stereo PC setups that ruins the mix? Whatever the case, somebody has dropped the ball at Timeline.
@ibidthefrog4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they added a track to get round some copyright issues
@camt99673 жыл бұрын
@@ibidthefrog Ah, interesting. Never occurred to me that that could be the case. Don't know anything about sound mixing, only know the this was too loud. Thanks for the suggestion.
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the KZbin audio processing algorithms, not the original production.
@evelyntorres86475 жыл бұрын
Music too loud. Can’t hear the narrator. 🤷🏽♀️
@cyan16163 жыл бұрын
I think it's clear by now that someone else paid someone to have the princes killed so he could blame Richard.
@ashleyleonard81482 жыл бұрын
IVE ALWAYS believed (and it makes more sense historically) it was Lord Stanley. He was constable of the tower. And, he's the one who stood and waited for the battle to turn, before siding with Henry at Bosworth. Henry even executed him. I guarantee he heard he killed them (but I believe, Warbeck was truly Richard. And that Lord Stanley sent them away and then brought him back after Henry wasnt what he wanted) and did it on behalf of his wife. That, and he supposedly supported Perkin Warbeck. Which is hilarious when you consider he fought for Henry. Lmao What a messed up man. But, jt only makes sense if 1. He was trying to win with either side. And 2. Didn't kill them, but sent them away. And then brought them back to conspire when they were old enough to stand on their own.
@cyan16162 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyleonard8148 never underestimate a power hungry man. 😕
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
There is an entry in the account rolls of Margaret of Burgundy of money allocated for “the raising of Yorkist heirs”. We know what happened to all but two Yorkist heirs. HenryVII killed most of them and HenryVIII killed the couple that remained. Perkin Warbeck first emerged from Margaret’s court. She claimed he was her nephew, Richard.
@nbenefiel Жыл бұрын
@@cyan1616Richard was never power hungry.
@paparude77244 жыл бұрын
Dude had severe scoliosis and was in severe pain
@suzannesund45955 жыл бұрын
I can’t watch this until they fix the music . . . It’s dreadful !!!
@andyhowlett6447 Жыл бұрын
Why drown out the voice with bad music.?
@mykellygirl553164 жыл бұрын
Background music is way too loud!!
@Alun492 жыл бұрын
Whoever mixed the sound should have gone to the tower!
@nbenefiel5 жыл бұрын
We know that King John killed his rival, his nephew Arthur. That’s rarely mentioned.
@martyngraham10254 жыл бұрын
You raise a good point. Before Richard iii became king he was like a national hero. Had a very high reputation. John did not have a good reputation. My point is that murdering nephews is something king john would and did do so are we saying Richard was like John?? We know that at least until Richard's reign began he was a different character to John certainly. So it doesn't add up. Doesn't mean Richard is innocent. He has to be innocent. He seems too awesome to be guilty.
@bright_morning_star82123 жыл бұрын
The murdering of King Richard’s nephews was more the master plan of the double-dealing Stanley brothers - also Margaret Beaufort and Henry Vll who hated the Plantagenets and attempted to re-write history to suit themselves!
@leanie52342 жыл бұрын
Actually, John's murder of his nephew is ALWAYS mentioned whenever John's character is discussed.
@keithr35022 жыл бұрын
when the loud music is playing we can't hear Tony's narration . ive noticed this with other video's of Tony's. his sound editor has a hearing issue .......?
@Thesaeed235 жыл бұрын
He now had a Tomb at Leicester Cathedral Thanks to Phillipa Langley et al! :)
@suestaley84411 ай бұрын
I always thought the prince's demise benefited Henry Tudor more than Richard lll.