What System Of Government Did The Native Americans Use? | 1491: Before Columbus | Timeline

In this episode, we look take a deep dive into the political infrastructure of Indigenous America. How did the Native Americans decide upon their leadership? Wha kind of intricate and sophisticated systems did they develop for trade?
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[@selakery3297]

Each and every tribe had their own system of government. It's like comparing Britain to Mongolia. They're just different. Not wrong. Just different.

[@ricardobecker7028]

within that difference there were some fairly more advanced than others, when compared these different tribes

[@jakestephano3145]

@@ricardobecker7028 not really, just diffrent systems. nothing is more “advanced”. dont confuse complication with advancement

[@d.c.8828]

It's a shame that pre-European history is almost never covered in grade-school.

[@startrekmaniac1701]

Yep instead they are indoctrinated with gender identity and crt

[@johndoeiii9767]

💯

[@lady2550]

What's pre European history, vikings were here before 1500s

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

That's why we have this thing called the library..we also have colleges that cover those types of things in depth

[@kingofkings4917]

It was where I went to school, when being taught about American history we started with the native Americans

[@Elizabitchk17]

Amazing, please do more films on Native Americans!

[@bobablaw1298]

Native American Literature was my final course in college. That opened my mind to many perceptions, and all we need to do is stop & think. Then the Observe & Report task gains much clarity. The Native American mindset is making its way back to mainstream; we've got the answers within us already.

[@cruisepaige]

6 in a series not enough? YOU make one.

[@rachelzeigler4608]

I pay to avoid commercials, only to have Timeline imbed them in the video. :(

[@kristoffliftoff9316]

?

[@Last_Chance.]

Gotem!

[@aliensoup2420]

learn to use the fast-forward key.

[@rachelzeigler4608]

@@aliensoup2420 I would rather they just not sneak ads in.

[@jonathonmcglew4992]

Calm down dude. It's not that bad w/YT premium.

[@travisgray751]

The tobacco part with the little people caught my ear. I'm from the Seward penninsula in Alaska, we have stories about ishigat/q. Idk everyone has different names for them, but ours are little yoked dudes wearing traditional, and had little huts underground.

[@rhondagilbert-puketapu6246]

Would love to hear more :) I find them interesting. So many of there stories across the world, my personal opinion they 100% exist. 4.5 Billion years these stories give us an insight to what was happening here on Mother. :)

[@timothyhoran9521]

Loved this. It's so important that this information is shared and known. Thank you. Well done.

[@DOOMJESUS]

TOO BAD IT'S NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF MADE UP STORIES WHICH YOU ARE ALL TOO READY TO BELIEVE.

[@deong6289]

The human story is far more complicated than this simplistic view point. Enigmas can be found in the Pracacas, the amazon, Honduras, and across North America (mostly east of the Mississippi). Even the very old stories suggesting these lands have had many kinds of beings living there beside the native Americans way before Columbus arrived. But everything needs to "political correct" and placed in neat little boxes.

[@benjaminwachold3736]

Thank you for the education, it is always interesting 🧐 to me to learn more about Native American cultures. I find the Aztecs to be the most interesting of the Mesoamerican tribes. Cahokia is also very interesting and fascinating that it was a place for trade that connected all of the tribes in North America in one place. What did the Aztecs believe about the human energy being released in blood 🩸 through human sacrifice??

[@krono5el]

weird because aztecs were just around as long as the europeans and have nothing to do with Pre Colombian American history.

[@bluskies1000]

Like most people I found the Aztec. Mayan and other central American city states built around horrifying terror cults. The ritualistic Flower Wars, based on capturing people to be used for human sacrifice, was unusual.

[@jakestephano3145]

@@krono5el wat

[@AaronJohnson-qg3fr]

I love these documentaries lots of good information.

[@rhondagilbert-puketapu6246]

More like, what system did the U.S government implement from The Native Americans? peace treaty’s (how to conduct a peaceful settlement) respect (how to respect each other opinions, coming to agreements without war) I mean this more in that aspect. :)

[@dopeymark]

So it's a native American version of a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court? An eclipse brought the tribes together? That's interesting.

[@danhanqvist4237]

Was it really the intention to pose the question as referring to "system" (in the singular)? Of course there wasn't one system use by all the several million Native Americans. Posing the question in that form actually speaks volumes.

[@MrSimeonk]

Here, hear.

[@bfairfax8772]

If they don't pose it as a system then it doesn't make any sense . It's just millions of disparate people living in different groups at different levels of social development throughout the Western hemisphere . Then they need to try and explain why that is.

[@danhanqvist4237]

@@bfairfax8772 What doesn't make sense is to assume that all those millions had one system. It's like asking about the "European system of government". Europe has seen a large number of systems throughout history and still differ pretty widely among themselves (compare, say, Russia and Hungary, with Norway and Ireland). My suspicion is that whoever came up with the question in that form assumed that "Native Americans" were all the same (very likely along the lines of the stereotypical Plains tribes) and lived in a world without history.

[@DOOMJESUS]

THEY HAD NO SYSTEM OF ANY SORT.

[@TheeRocker]

Well,,, They did have Pow wow's... A Tribal Governance 🤠🏹🦃🛶🤠

[@anthonynicholson5193]

This has been a great series on pre American colonialism

[@BRILIANT660]

Thank you so much for great suport

[@geraldmantel4955]

"Honest, peaceful coexistence" --- What happened to all that?

[@bluskies1000]

The native American government was based on anarchy and war in most of North America. Some say 500 nations or tribes, all different.

[@Avery-zl9lw]

Once i heard a story about a place like CAHOKIA. It was said that the Spanish use to trade at a place like CAHOKIA. They returned again the following your and all the people where gone. They asked other people "where are these people at?" I don't think they found out what happened to.

[@baswordfish]

This is the 5th on 8 episodes : Governance and trade

[@jameswest7945]

So they always fought each other, cannibalism, and no technology? Stunning!

[@thegadflygang5381]

Dont you know in the modern faux egalitarian fairy tale of neoliberal anti-Whiteness and anti-Christianity, the more primitive, brutal and cruel you were/are, the higher you get placed on the victimhood pyramid

[@batrachian149]

They probably had fewer and smaller scale wars than more centralized societies. Cannibalism was mostly a Mesoamerican thing. The people genocided by British colonizers did not practice that, as far as I know. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWXKhmWKqNtpnrs

[@brittabadie1512]

Literally fought each other over territory and sacrificed themselves off the planet.

[@grantsmythe8625]

No, not always at all. As the man said, human relations had broken down. That means that human relations were once healthy, then they broke down and then the Peacemaker comes.

[@batrachian149]

@@brittabadie1512 Fighting over territory? Shocking. And no, human sacrifice was at its height among the Aztecs, and (nearly?) absent among North American groups. They diminshed because of disease and genocide.

[@EverythingNetwork1]

Another Great Video

[@bluskies1000]

What happened to the Native Americans was similar to the treatment of the natives of Spain by Phonecams, Greeks, and Romans.

[@MrSimeonk]

The Vikings were in North America centuries before the Italian sailor, Columbus. Some speculate the Egyptians, too. My point being 1492 was not beginning of the start of introduction of Old World diseases to the New World that decimated indigenous populations.

[@jameswest7945]

Who cares about introducing diseases, we invented modern medicine and were challenged with the same disease. No guilt at all

[@cabbyabby8490]

Very sad part of history

[@jameswest7945]

@@cabbyabby8490 how lol

[@batrachian149]

@@jameswest7945 Millions of people died of disease.

[@jameswest7945]

@@batrachian149 like millions of Europeans no different

[@JuanJohn013]

So much different kind of Native American. So system each use was different

[@beautiful8853]

Beautiful documentary!

[@vicariousgamer2871]

The subtitles state that the local natives were speaking in a foreign language 😂🤣😅

[@OrvilleBJenkins]

A great presentation overall. But not an auspicious beginning. Sentence 2 says "We have been here from the beginning." Sentence 3 references their migrations to get here and depicts a sea arrival in a canoe. ???

[@DOOMJESUS]

LEARN TO RECOGNIZE LESSONS IN MANUFACTURED HISTORY A.K.A. PROPAGANDA.

[@GameSetPatch]

@@DOOMJESUS learn to type without textually yelling at people by using all caps. Also, "manufacturered" history as opposed to what? All of history is recorded by one or more people, and then compiled and explained by one or more of a different group of people some time later. The only natural history is what we find by extrapolating meaning from physics and chemistry when applied to physical materials. But I doubt that is what you meant.

[@DOOMJESUS]

@@GameSetPatch I GUESS, ARTIFICIALLY CONSTRUCTED OR CONTRIVED WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE OF WORDS. YOU CAN BELIEVE IN WHATEVER YOU WISH TO BELIEVE IN. BUT BY ALL ACCOUNTS BESIDES THIS ONE, THIS SO-CALLED DOCUMENTARY IS NOT A FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF HISTORY. ALSO MOST EDUCATED, REASONABLE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS THE WORD WHICH CAN BE CAPITALIZED BY THE USE OF A SINGLE UPPER CASE LETTER AT THE BEGINNING AND NOT THE LETTER THAT IS CAPITALIZED. AND THAT THE CAPS KEY ON YOUR KEYBOARD IS A FORTY YEAR OLD MISNOMER. AND THAT THE PHYSICAL ACTS OF TYPING AND YELLING ARE TWO COMPLETELY UNRELATED THINGS. PERSONALLY, I DON'T UTTER A SOUND WHEN I AM TYPING, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU THOUGH. ALSO PEOPLE MIGHT TAKE YOUR MEANDERINGS MORE SERIOUSLY IF YOU COULD SPELL SIMPLE WORDS CORRECTLY.

[@DOOMJESUS]

@@GameSetPatch I GUESS, ARTIFICIALLY CONSTRUCTED OR CONTRIVED WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE OF WORDS. YOU CAN BELIEVE IN WHATEVER YOU WISH TO BELIEVE. BUT BY ALL ACCOUNTS BESIDES THIS ONE, THIS FICTIONAL HIT PIECE IS NOT A FACTUAL ACCOUNT OF HISTORY.

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

you sound like you assume a certain definition for "the beginning". did they say what exactly they referred to as "the beginning"? no they didn't. so you can't know for sure.

[@krisbest6405]

I,d love to hear new ways of living. Especially peaceful, prosperous clans.

[@maracohen5930]

Entirely depended upon the Tribe.

[@drakehopper2600]

i believe that they used the sticks n stones system of governance

[@janegilmore102]

I want to thank you For bringing up the Australian hieroglyph done by aboriginal people. More people are coming together. But still need more coming together. Come see our indigenous life, jewellery and best of all the people and their stories. Don’t forget to be respectful and to ask permission not only from the First Nation Aunty or Uncle. Also let the trees and what ever part u go to again ask permission & please don’t take anything with you. You will send it back asking to tell the spirits ur sorry. Many ppl come to see Uluru and take rocks. When they get home things start to happen and ppl send back what they stole.. I wouldn’t go into ur house and steal what I wanted.

[@geraldmantel4955]

Did they have a Cahokia Stock Exchange?

[@terranrepublic7023]

"Societies exist under three forms sufficiently distinguishable.1. without government, as among our Indians. 2. under governments wherein the will of every one has a just influence, as is the case in England in a slight degree, and in our states in a great one. 3. under governments of force: as is the case in all other monarchies & in most of the other republics." - From Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Paris Jan. 30. 1787. "I am convinced that those societies (as the Indians) which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under European governments. Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, and restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did any where. Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep. I do not exaggerate. This is a true picture of Europe. Cherish therefore the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention." - From Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, Paris 16 Jan. 1787

[@geraldmantel4955]

Was it a dictatorship, or a "two"-party system? (re: Incas)

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

What else could government be except councils of the people..same as anywhere else

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

um, hello, monarchy? monarchies aren't councils of people. tell us, up until when did europeans have monarchies?

[@b01tact10n]

I got my DNA checked...100% Native American! They said my DNA has similar characteristics, traits as those of Inca decent... I was like WHOA very mind blowing, along with traits and characteristics of Inupiaq up North. Who would ever want to mess up a system that worked for over 10,000 plus years?

[@TwitX2007]

Weird question considering there were many different tribes in North America and completely not unified.

[@johndoeiii9767]

Western ignorance, generalization and prejudice. Same old same old.

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Yeah..unless there exists masses of people who can't think of any form of government other than what exists today..or some king and queen type of thing..maybe they do exist in large numbers making the question in need of answers for them..I guess that can't be a bad thing ..i mean..ones with no clue need to start somewhere before they can escape the clouds covering their heads

[@gorymarty56]

Another great video

[@peterxd3610]

it always begins modestly and ends greedily

[@tishahouse846]

Listening from the ukwales❤️

[@jesteravrgjoe2888]

Someone is trying to rewrite history here. Sadly this lie will live forever because the internet is forever.

[@batrachian149]

ok boomer

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Jester. I give you the medal ..a liar calling truth lies..good luck liar

[@krono5el]

Like you know anything about history bub, we know where you went to school and we took the same idiotic curriculum in the same idiotic schools.

[@CambodianguideTV]

Interesting history, friend

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

A wonderful & Informative Video About Indigence American Peoples Before European invaders ,Migration waves arrived ..Thanks Time Line

[@zaggy3110]

Christians destroyed native culture in North America Muslims/Arabs did the same in Africa

[@bethbartlett5692]

The Iroquois show an add on (through breeding) of Basque DNA in a number of their people's. The Basque are largely the lineage of the Irish, in post-flood time, and the Basque are overwhelmingly the largest group of Rh (-) blood type. Basque DNA in the Irish is most prevalently concentrated in Counties Kerry and Cork, Ireland, (the most Southwestern area, that class seat to the USA, so to speak.) and they s area has a 🆕 table % of Rh(-) blood type. My lineage is from County Kerry. Ireland, and I'm Rh(-). Either the Basque sailed to the USA in the pre-Columbian era, and/or Irish of Basque Lineage did. Based on these findings, it doesn't mean we are of same original origin, but we are relatives. The Cherokee are Iroquois that means bed South and in the area of Tennessee, N Carolina, northern Georgia, and Alabama, many of the People/Residents that have been in there s area for 3 - 4 or more generations are largely of German, Scott-Irish, Irish, and British lineage and of these folks,, at least 1 in 3 have a Cherokee relative (Grandparent, G-Grandparent, Brother-n-law or Sister-in-law. I actually had a Grandmother, my Dad's My m, that was half Cherokee and half Irish. My Mother was 100% Irish, my Dad over half Irish, and our DNA (my siblings and I) have this reflected in our DNA. Many have written about the Irish being the Daniels (one of the tribes of Israel) and there has been references made to Native Americans having been influenced by one or more of the Lost Tribes of Israel. I have one of my degrees in History and based on my indepth studies/research, I feel this is a real potential. It was said to have been checked and didn't appear to be found, however, one must understand the specific need to request the Ancient Test. There were 12 Tribes, a variance of origins, and of these, the folks from Judah, 2 main tribes and about 3 - 4 other tribes, would reflect the Semetic DNA, but the remaining would reflect Ancient DNA associated with Anatolia, Sardinia, Syria, the area of the Levant, or Ashkanazi, and unlikely but possibly the Lemba People's of Ethiopia, whom migrated to Ethiopia. Ashkanazi showed up in my DNA. There were 2 more tribes that reflected some Basque in their DNA, one is Navajo (that surprised me because of their location), the other I'm spacing at present, but I do recall it to be in the South Eastern USA. I found this all so interesting and it proves that there was far more seafaring in History than the Mainstream Academics are willing to admit, (but that's all together another story.) Best Regards

[@kiwibob223]

So many defensive white guys in this comment section.

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

reality debunks the myths they make up for themselves. accept reality and move on. leave the ego behind. the world will be a better place if you do.

[@kiwibob223]

@@yaddahaysmarmalite4059 yep

[@RoryK]

Very sad.. I know this type of ethnic cleansing has been happening for thousands of years but this was particularly sad because of my native ethnicity. Also because I've visited a few Native American reservations which were all depressing shadows of their former glory

[@genmanion2389]

the blackfoot had fairies too

[@AmericanWoman1964]

Now its History hit? How many names does this guy have and what on earth would make anyone subscribe to it.

[@stuarthastie6374]

As i ampartially sighted and cnnot read the subtitles i canno understand the converstion, so mmust leavve.

[@bendershome4discountorphan859]

The one guy looks like keven neland

[@michielvdvlies3315]

arguments of silence. people back then werent stupid.

[@shanek6582]

Fact is, we don’t know for sure about the social/government history of native Americans because they never invented writing, all we have is secondhand stories “passed down “ . Heck, they ever even invented the wheel.

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Yeah we do know..same as others through history..simple councils of law were mainly used..how is this not common sense ???

[@MrSimeonk]

Writing only became available to the majority of Europeans at the same time. Literacy was the preserve of the elite prior to the late middle Ages, but oral traditions are still with us Europeans today. I see your point to some degree but the indigenous populations caught up very quickly with Old World technologies.

[@krono5el]

The Maya had thousands and thousands of written codices but the spanish burned them all except 4

[@batrachian149]

Written language existed in Mesoamerica.

[@acephaedramusic9588]

@@krono5el I'm a descendant of the Kingdom of Benin. Thank God we didn't write anything down. Memorizing stories, genealogy and religious tales are literal and individual jobs The British destroyed the walls of Benin and everything else, but they couldn't destroy our culture. It's alive and well. Except for many people becoming christians. But even that form of Christianity is mixed with Vodun. It's fascinating

[@eodyn7]

What system? They didn't.

[@williamfaith8855]

How about the Comanche ?????😧

[@batrachian149]

Translation: I've never heard of Mesoamerica.

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

System of councils..geez..education is failing you

[@johndoeiii9767]

Christendom and Western Civilization's imprint on the world is so dark. The legacies and remnants still withstand to this day. Particularly in non-white communities. The fetal alcohol syndrome, the unemployment, all the addictions, the mass incarceration, the poverty, and so much more. Not only were cultures and communities disintegrated and destroyed, but so too were natural ecosystems. _"Cape Malay" / "Cape Coloured"_ from Cape Town, South Africa 🇿🇦 #TheCapeOfStorms 🌊 #TheCapeColony ⛓️

[@jimmyjimmy7240]

Christianity and western civilization has a brighter light than any you could mention.

[@georgekenny9820]

I know, white people have so much to answer for, democracy, engineering, inventions, Christianity, the horse,cities & civilisation but there are always a few who miss the canabolism, tribal wars & paganism.

[@jameswest7945]

Ok what did cannibals and child sacrificers give us?

[@jimmyjimmy7240]

@@jameswest7945 corn. Lol

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@jameswest7945 leave them be. let them get drunk on their mouthwash and firewater lecturing about how much superior their mud huts were compared to the Sistine Chapel

[@bryanfox2735]

You mean a loner eclipses

[@dhjtfvv567]

Bunch of white scholars playing Indian. No surprise here

[@phillybulphillybul4319]

Show and tell the world truth about the moors of America

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

They had the purple underwear and done BEN HURRrrrr

[@voodoochile7581]

Too many ADS

[@geraldmantel4955]

Sounds "secular & socialist" to me ....

[@autentico3284]

Democrat is the first thing that comes to mind, but most likely was socialist.

[@d.c.8828]

What?

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Uh..yeah..the independence articles were modeled in part from the Six Nations

[@zebwalton979]

Thank goodness for European settlement. The technology, medicine, governance and religion has made our lives richer and more meaningful. Our tribe has never been stronger... praise the Lord!

[@jakestephano3145]

u worship white people or aomething?

[@jakestephano3145]

governance and religion quite literally replaced a life of being out with nature to, sitting in an office all day lmao

[@theodoresmith5272]

When and where. There isn't a uniform government from a people that went from Alaska to Chile. The primitive like the plains natives had a male chief or shirt wearers. If you made camp in that chiefs camp, you played by his rules. He may kill you if you don't. You were also free to leave at anytime. Several eastern native group had councils of elders that included or were completely made up of females. Some groups females held great authority. Some none at all..central and South America had there own thing going on with much more a hierarchy of religious, political and wealthy class of people hold some type of powers. Before the Inca wiped out 66 civilizations we know of in about 150 years before the Spanish arrived, the mid Andes had many forms of government. Here is one from the first 2 minutes, they new about the stars..please name an ancient people that didn't? Remember this is about 2000 years after groups like the Greeks and Persians and many old world groups that had figured out a lot about the stars way before them.

[@cabbyabby8490]

@@David-vq1zg the sun was worshipped all over the America's and all over world.

[@theodoresmith5272]

@@David-vq1zg and caral in peru and the big 3 pyramids in Egypt are 5000 years old.

[@krono5el]

@@theodoresmith5272 the pyramids in Guatemala and the mummies in Peru are much older than anything in egypt.

[@krono5el]

greeks and persians didn't even know what numbers were, they had no clue of anything.

[@theodoresmith5272]

@@krono5el maya ruins are like nobody elses. The art work on everything is amazing. Roman and inca ruins are very simple. Maya made pretty stuff. Ive been to many with tikal and palenque my favorites. Well the Toltec sites, a group from NE of Mexico city that held power over a lot of southern Mexico before the Azteca, had really cool art on everything too. As far as age... ..Guatemala is Maya and there classic age starts about 250 ad. Pre classic Maybe 400 years before that.. southern Mexico was a very late Commer to the civilization thing. Civilization in peru had been around about 3000 years or so before and there is some question if peruvian and or the cultures of Colombia didn't jump start it. Basically come in and in some way influence the native group with higher knowledge of pets say building and planting and such but not in numbers that it was a invasion. there is one group to the north west of Mexico city that shows at least that group, that held off the Azteca, had some things that really look Peruvian. Mummies in Egypt are older but both go way way back.. The 26 pyramids of coral outside of lima peru are the oldest in peru to date found and about 3 years older then the great pyramids of Giza. Many older, smaller pyramids can be found all over Egypt and tombs built into the earth before them at least 2000 years.. I really except all about ancient cultures and civilizations..I will say I have some favorites but I try to stay very objective and fair to all..

[@TwitX2007]

My family has been residents of this country in North America for nearly 500 years- pretty sure we’re “native Americans “ now.

[@johndoeiii9767]

Colonial settlers.

[@TwitX2007]

@@johndoeiii9767 okay so the “native Americans” are Polynesian or Asia settlers? I don’t think anyone believes the people we refer to as native Americans just sprouted in the North American continent, do they? I mean we have some significant evidence of how “settlers” came across the land bridge from what is now modern Russia ..

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Yeah..just not the first natives..nothing wrong with that

[@krono5el]

Thats not how that works at all, Arabs ruled spain for 700 years do you think the spanish consider themselves Arab. your people need another 10,000 years or so and wipe out all evidence of a the Natives : P

[@TwitX2007]

@@krono5el I don’t think so. I’m a native born American- I’m not “European “

[@MA-vw1pl]

Can't prevent humanity in its entire spectrum. Humans will be humans just like boys will be boys....

[@ilenestrack1488]

Columbus was not the first one to find America the natives did from across the globe

[@briannichols4856]

Highly unlikely...

[@chuckaustin7234]

So we're all natives. Peace ✌️

[@qweef69]

So did the dinosaurs.

[@bfairfax8772]

So what your saying is that prior to 1492 Native Americans were living like people in of the rest of the world 1500 or 2000 years before in Antiquity ? That Native Americans just never entered the Bronze Age like other parts of the world so they get stuck at a point of development prior to that age and consequently never move beyond either ? If that's not what your saying explain it more clearly . Sure what happened after 1492 wasn't right ,but wasn't it expected considering the vast disparity in modernization and both parties lack of medical knowledge ?

[@danhanqvist4237]

I don't think much of what happened was expected. The most important element was the spread of disease. That was certainly not intended -- the last thing the Spanish wanted was to have FEWER people to boss around. Given the very small number of Spaniards it is entirely conceivable that the outcome would have been very different if such enormous number of Native Americans hadn't died from disease. Also, the conquest of the Aztecs and Incas did not, actually, crucially depend on Spanish technology. Without Native American allies it's far from certain that either empire would have been conquered. Always keep in mind that "Native Americans" is a modern catch-all for very different societies with very different languages and historical trajectories. There wasn't one homogeneous Native American civilisation that met another homogeneous European civilisation. Even the Spaniards themselves were conflicted about how to deal with Native Americans. Especially the Spanish Crown worried about what the right thing to do was and tried to restrain the conquistadors and settlers. Both the Inca and Aztec nobility was absorbed into the Spanish nobility, not at all unlike what happened in respect of other Habsburg conquests and acquisitions.

[@bfairfax8772]

@@danhanqvist4237 I understand but imagine if nobody had ever gone to the British Isles so they advanced though history thousands of years behind the rest of the world. Then 1500 years into after the first big leap in technology the Bronze age someone goes there having entered the early age of gunpowder . Also having come from societies that have domesticated animals for farming and consumption . As for the disease neither culture had enough of a grasp on medicine to realize there might be an issue . It's simply that the entire Western hemisphere was isolated from the technological growth of the rest of the world . If the hadn't been they very well may have sailed across the ocean and concurred Europe .

[@danhanqvist4237]

@@bfairfax8772 The reason for the devastating effect of the bacterial and viral transfer is of course that the Old World and the New World were isolated from each other an that the fauna and climate of the Old World let the populations there go through the pandemics that the people in the New World escaped. But I don't think the technological disparity was as great as is often made out -- it wasn't the stone-age meeting the space age -- and the Spaniards were very few. Other cultures at other times -- the Japanese, for instance, or the Native Americans in North America -- could adopt and adapt European technology to fight back -- and to fight each other. We mustn't forget the politics. There were not two separate sides. There were many different groups of Native Americans with their own agendas and many different groups of European settlers with agendas of their own, contending with and using metropolitan interest groups, differing amongst themselves as well. The "Clash of Civilisations" model is grossly simplified and don't allow for human affairs in general and, in particular, discounts Native American agency. I think people look at it too much from the perspective of post Civil-War US Western expansion and late 19th Century European colonialism and extrapolate backwards.

[@bfairfax8772]

@@danhanqvist4237 It's not the stone age meeting the space age but the pre bronze age meeting the gunpowder age . Still a very large disparity in technology . If as the video says everything changes in 1492 . As for medicine neither culture understood contagious diseases enough to keep from passing them to each other . We barley have a grasp on them now just look at how we as a world culture responded to COVID. Some recommended one thing and others contradicted them only to change their minds later and vise versa .

[@danhanqvist4237]

@@bfairfax8772 I've tried to make several points. The Spanish presence was not very large -- especially not in terms of fire-power. They largely fought with steel. By sheer numbers they could absolutely have been contained, and Native American could -- like the Japanese -- have picked up the technology. Without the pandemics it would have taken the Europeans a veeeery long time to defeat all Native American civilisations by fire power. Without the diseases things way well have turned out very differently.

[@jamesg3141]

Yea but did they have a flag?

[@Neuroguy1]

Too bad there are so many commentors below who think that this is the appropriate place to hawk financial scemes. Piggy backing on someones else work for free advertising is wrong.

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

A form of the snake oil swindlers

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

report them

[@aliensoup2420]

10:00. "But five arrows are too strong"... the symbol for Fascism before Mussolini was born. Probably a borrowed anecdote to embellish the story.

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

no its not a borrowed embellishment. anyone would have noticed ages ago that just a couple arrows in the quiver is easier break than a quiverful of arrows. the quivers weren't stiff. its a basic archery hunting fact that arrows can get broken while tramping about through heavy brush. otoh, including the multi-arrow tidbit because of the similarity to and viewer familiarity of fascist Italy? absolutely. but then there's also that Bible story too. So is it the Italians? Ancient Hebrew? or all of the above? all of the above.

[@phillybulphillybul4319]

U guys are lying about the description of the people

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Fillup. You BEN HURRRrrrr

[@zaggy3110]

38:40 This sacred union was between a man and a woman

[@midnightvibes5485]

The Chad Chief Enjoyer vs Virgin Genocidal Maniac "Democracy" Fan

[@ricardobecker7028]

that is because europeans dominated the occidental hemisphere and loved to write about themselves.

[@fathertime9433]

Dead branch on the evolutionary tree..

[@TRUEROOTS2022]

No such thing as a Native American until 1970. American Indians are who you’re reffering to.

[@krono5el]

Indians are from India

[@TRUEROOTS2022]

@@krono5el India wasn’t called India until 1949. They were Hindustan and are still referred to as such locally. We were called Indian since the 1400s.

[@krono5el]

@@TRUEROOTS2022 thats actually wild, and i do call india Hindustan, but its called india on the map. so its all very messed up : P

[@TRUEROOTS2022]

@@krono5el yes messed indeed

[@kqueen-j8642]

Thank you!!!! This is all wrong and they still trying to steal and misinformed the real American Indians history. This year things will come together to tell the truth!

[@savantianprince]

Native Americans had the true meaning of peace.

[@AvalonDreamz]

Really? Because I clearly heard "cannibalism, retaliation war" in there. Did you watch the same thing I did?...

[@OrvilleBJenkins]

Were you really listening?

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

@@AvalonDreamz . every where in the world people had peace at times then war at times..peace breaks down if things come into place . How is it that people would blurp that they were all Disney peaceful completely or all continuously evil warlike ? ..

[@danhanqvist4237]

Well, that's an odd take on the Incas and the Aztecs.... Their respective neighbours would have taken a very different view.... Which is why the joined the Spaniards.

[@comfusedWorldpassanger3399]

@Max K. Lowe: Which of the hundreds of different tribes are you talking about?

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

But what about the KANGS and QUAINS ?..the still have forty acres and mules to work out wit their dada

[@johndoeiii9767]

Columbus personally noted a Muslim presence. Muslims from Mali voyaged to the Americas. +-200 years before Columbus. Both Christians and Muslims reached the Americas. But yeah, the rest is history. Christians "discovered" and went on to "civilize" and "save" the indigenous peoples of America.

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

And when you woke up from this fantasy dream was your pillow wetted ?

[@ByronBTB]

America has lasted longer than the Incan empire and Oxford University existed before the Aztec Empire did. Still facinating but there's a lot more to learn from civilizations that lasted longer and recorded more.

[@batrachian149]

The Inca and Aztecs were newcomers, but the Maya have cultural continuity and written language going back thousands of years.

[@EternalEmperorofZakuul]

Olmecs and moche existed before oxford. Your point?

[@DOOMJESUS]

CANNIBALISM.

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Some like this " D C · " character needs pre European history taught in grade school in order to ease it's hurt of it's rear ..needs it taught here..the U S.A. ..Not this prehistory of people in the hemisphere it lives in cause..you know..wouldn't be a good thing to teach prehistory of a place where it is not originally from..like it's Europe..lets all pitch in and help end it's hurt on it's back parts

[@uniquejewell1141]

More lies about people, who are not the 1st people anywhere. The 1st Americans are aboriginal. These people are not aboriginal. Reading is fundamental. TRY IT

[@batrachian149]

ok boomer

[@ThermicLight]

@@batrachian149 - No one cares about your mommy and daddy issues.

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

I don't need a book to recognize another BEN HURRrr or it's slave master your highness

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

European American. People of European ancestry in America aren't descended from the Natives who were there in America when the Europeans finally arrived a mere 500 years ago. Those people who were already there in America at that time are the Native Americans. The Native Americans are not of European ancestry. That is why those of European ancestry who are born in America today are not Native Americans. Sorry but its a logical fact. You can try to appropriate it but that only makes you false.

[@woodygilson3465]

Look into ancient DNA. No one group has lived anywhere for forever.

[@briannichols4856]

DNA testing shows a strong Eurasian link with most Native Americans

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

And it doesn't prove your claim that red people had to have come from Asia

[@krono5el]

yeah we have a tiny bit of siberian dna left from like 30,000 years ago

[@willbe5994]

There is some Siberian dna mixed with some southeast Asian which shows where they migrated from. But everyone in the Americas also have a particular strain of dna that occurs nowhere else on earth.

[@phillybulphillybul4319]

Nothing with a pale face has no attachment to the Americas, Europe either/QUEEN EUROPA DAUGHTER OF THE EGYPTIAN QUEEN BIRTHED EUROPE

[@briannichols4856]

@@phillybulphillybul4319 Egyptians were White

[@lady2550]

Native eurasians

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Nah..Europe and Asia are on the other side of the world ..this is the western hemisphere sis

[@briannichols4856]

yes

[@KCJAM1]

@@creaturecaldwell9858 Have you heard of the Bering Strait Land Bridge, Beringia? Or is that theory put forward by those crazy lettered scolars, archeologists, and scientists who demand empirical data to improve on existing theories instead of blurting out hyperbolic attacks on anyone that dissents against the fables and P.C. revisionist bullshite!

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

@@KCJAM1 I heard bungee cords are a source fun for many of you..I could dangle you from one for a livin

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

however you want to slice and dice it.

[@hostiliscivitas]

Timeline = The Fake History Channel

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Yeah sure thing

[@batrachian149]

L

[@lonnienoel8938]

Very finely done video. But at the end I have learned nothing. None of these systems of government were worth a hoot. Iroquois rather impressive, you missed Cherokees impressive as well. Still, none worth a hoot. They accomplished nothing in their own time, and are dead today.

[@nakijekusari5747]

sad but true lol

[@donaleigh2352]

Shameful that this channel is referring to Indians as natives.

[@See-through-The-Veil]

It's amazing the absolute lies these history channels put out to the 🐑 who believe it...

[@briannichols4856]

From the Beginning???? NO America had no human habitation for Thousands of years

[@aliensoup2420]

My first thought as well... what is their idea of "the beginning"? Are we talking about Young Earth Creationism now?

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

brian. There might be evidence that says otherwise.The people hunted prehistoric animals at the time when Neanderthals were disappearing while the first modern humans came into existence.

[@krono5el]

The five cradles of civilization would have a word with you : D

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

you're making assumptions regarding what they mean by "the beginning"

[@aliensoup2420]

@@yaddahaysmarmalite4059 It"s the OP's fault for being so ambiguous.

[@zachary007]

We brought them freedom LOL

[@clivebaxter6354]

None there was no government

[@briannichols4856]

they had tribal govt

[@clivebaxter6354]

@@briannichols4856 depending on your definition of government

[@krono5el]

@@clivebaxter6354 you need to have a chat with european Benjamin Franklin if you think The Real Americans had no government.

[@clivebaxter6354]

@@krono5el He died over 230 years ago, to claim they had a government is like saying they had a navy as they had canoes.

[@athensmajnoo3661]

Clive Baxter:::: how do you define a government? description of a government changes from place to place, and time to time. Palestinian people had government in Jesus time, people at thee time of Abraham had their own idea of government, Pharoes had their own kind of government, Indians their own....... Which one among these is not a government according to you?

[@jackiedunn9404]

Did I hear we were here from the beginning but then they migrated from someplace else just like they accuse us of doing. And they didn't own anything they moved around and fought each other constantly. So nobody took their land because they didn't own the land they used it unless another tribe said no we want to use this land then they fought and are made at other immigrants for doing the same thing

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Yeah..we shouldn't be mad invaders took our land..put us in camps..we put all the tribes in the U.S. from coast to coast into reservation prisons just like the squatters..how dare we get !!! Hold on..wait..did we do all that from coast to coast also ?

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Yes jacker. You heard from the beginning..meaning the first humans here..you got it ?

[@jackiedunn9404]

@@creaturecaldwell9858 who is jacker and the beginning of what certainly not since Earth was formed and which tribe is claiming they were everywhere at the beginning because none of them were. Even those I'm decended from. We came from someplace else and we didn't own all of the continents here. Just like none of them owned any one place. They didn't believe in ownership

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

@@jackiedunn9404 meant Jackie. None of what you said takes away the fact that red people were here long before any else..I don't hold that over anyone's head ..only if any brings b.s. to this table I tell it like it is..all you seem to have is some want and/ or need to make the truth false..with your goofy talk sounding like a toddler upset that their home has people who have an older history with a one of a kind uniqueness ..so you blabber on as the next one born every minute

[@krono5el]

@@jackiedunn9404 What do you make of all the Maya Metropolises jacker, are they not a place of ownership. it takes hundreds of years to build one pyramid and central America has the most pyramids in volume in the Universe.

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[@dragonflydude]

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[@talianun3259]

Got dam savages

[@creaturecaldwell9858]

Born again baby !

[@livinglucidly4153]

Hey Greg to you plan on buying bitcoin back?

[@samiam5557]

None they were savages.👺 they never invented writing, all we have is secondhand stories “passed down “ they never even invented the wheel

[@batrachian149]

Translation: I know nothing of Mesoamerica.

[@yaddahaysmarmalite4059]

you are a savage. just look at your hateful behavior. savage.

[@athensmajnoo3661]

Sam lam:::: paleskins were more savage than the natives.