How The CIA And KGB Fought Over Berlin | Battleground: Berlin | Timeline

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[@paulstarr4639]

were going to wipeout Russia because Putin won't stop with the programma

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Lil Renly gxg

[@samallardyce2522]

cia, kgb are lucky johnny english not active during their time

[@ericwilson6994]

Knock knock who's there? You are now a suspect in a CIA, NSA, FBI spy breach and a satellite has just locked into your position and you, along with most of Delaware County law enforcement, are under clandestine electronic surveillance. I have no questions for you. Have a nice day :)

[@legolas7r]

Hahahahahahah 😂

[@franknunoo4075]

Hahaha. Very funny 😄

[@Semtex_1992]

What's that Boff?

[@lukeyarasheski5510]

The CIA is still around...

[@kushaangosalia1274]

Knock knock Who’s there? KGB KGB who? We will ask the questions

[@DaveSCameron]

Erstwhile, Napoleon, Huns, Washington, Idi Amin, Uncle Adolf, Chandra Bose, demonization by mezmerizing our controlled media and yet we're so far beyond that aren't we? Haha

[@LosianOne]

Yeah you forgot the slap

[@Enzorgullochapin]

Oh, Here is where the story endS. Stay Safe.

[@tomson5608]

Knock knock Who’s there? bang - bang This is the CIA, bring out the corpses )))

[@aaronnelson7702]

Bears, Beats, Battlestar Galactica.....

[@sleekilla]

31:05 "I met him on a train to Prague completely by chance. 7 years later it was him that recruited me to the CIA" It WAS NOT completely by chance that y'all met! Not even in the slightest. They been scouting you for a hot one brotha haha

[@Q_QQ_Q]

haha exactly .

[@ericwilson6994]

We had very little instructions as to what to do. Play the game. Win the game. Interrogation, torture, and execution September 2024 CIA safe house in Peru September 2024 disguised as a hospital. I'm 9, upside down, inside out, and one minute ahead of time. I'm the CIA, I'll erase your memory! Spiritual right of passage. Overt ops. Pawn sacrifice.

[@Last_Chance.]

@@ericwilson6994 lame bro. Get a life

[@youraccountingprofessor5013]

Exactly. There are no coincidences in that line of work.

[@pbaklamov]

@@youraccountingprofessor5013 no coincidence in life.

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[@rajatchugg]

Thanks man

[@kaylaseden2698]

You legend! 👍

[@johnmellon1820]

Do you seriously not have an adblocker?

[@user-mg8mb6ss2t]

@@johnmellon1820 it seems that way,some people still manage to scare me, even today!

[@OiabSc]

Thank you so very much!

[@MrBikboi]

Listening to these old gentlemen from WW2 is a treat and so valuable.

[@brienjefferson4882]

For coming up as a child during the 80’s section of the Cold War, it was still a part of life. Our tornado drills were basically bomb drills. Every once and a while the gas masks would come out. The gas masks was due to the “tornado”destroying the chemical plant near the school. Every once and a while I got fun training on how to survive. Looking back, it was one of the best ways to teach kids, just in case. Looking even further back, the public and private drills have made me prepped for the few moments that may punch through to survive.

[@HUMINT1]

I almost can not believe it’s been over 30 years since the fall of the Berlin Wall. As a young Cryptologist who worked with the U.S. Navy throughout Europe and the Middle East in the late 1980’s and later with the ONI and NRO I never realized how my work might have contributed to not only the fall of the Berlin Wall and East Germany but the also the collapse of the Soviet Union in general. Or maybe not. Thanks for sharing this video.

[@DavidPacJr]

You’ve seen some stuff haven’t you?

[@StephenButlerOne]

The Hoff single handedly brought the wall down.

[@HUMINT1]

@@StephenButlerOne OMG I Love this comment!

[@МишаХопин]

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[@franklobo2579]

I also worked in Berlin at Marienfelde and it always makes me smile of the work we did but it was Chernobyl and the massive cover up and lies that actually toppled the Soviet Union. Crazy fact is that I ended up with a Russian woman 😂😂😂😂

[@imeroticbitches08]

Proof you can win a thousand battles and still lose the war!

[@richardlahan7068]

@pammens miss At the Moscow Conference in 1944, Churchill and Stalin secretly agreed to divide Europe up into zones of influence and decided the percentages of influence the Soviet Union and Western powers would have in those countries. Churchill called it the "Naughty Document" for a reason. Good old European wheeling and dealing at its worst.

[@bartbutkis]

@Suprabh Pranjal 🤣🤣🤣

[@williamspenson7868]

@Yoshimitsu Keke yeah, but he loved Soviet cognac :)

[@shamimakter4234]

@@Poison-Pill USA couldn't use nuke after nuke because they only had two nukes that they dropped and they won't be able to to make a nuke for another 2-3 years and Japanese weren't ready to surrender after American dropped the bomb, Japanese emperor surrender because he thought stalin would forcefully abdicate him.

[@dougraddi908]

Really? Come on! No friggin way!!!

[@icreatedanaccountforthis1852]

The new cold war is all these ads.

[@stevetong9899]

NEW COLD WAR BY TV NEWS, INTERNET, HACKERS, FAKE INFORMATION, FAKE NEWS, FAKE PHOTO, POLITICIAN LIES, ATTACK OTHER NATION ! SCREWED OTHER NATION ECONOMY ! NO GUN, NO BULLETS, NO SOLIDER, NO TANKS, UNTIL CRASHING OTHER COUNTRY ECONOMY. TOOK OTHER COUNTRY MONEY, OIL, BUSINESS, AND SUCKING DRY !

[@d1agram4]

STEVE TONG you feeling better 7 months later? Hope you got help.

[@icreatedanaccountforthis1852]

D1agram the fact that Mr. Tong edited his comment brings me a bit of joy. It’s as if he was like, oh I totally forgot the part about NO GUN, NO BULLETS. I need to add that in.

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I’m also bedbound due to disease & a history lover. Sending love ❤️

[@Mark-yy2py]

So glad to spend time in Berlin in the 80s (Tempelhof - TCA) to experience the intriguing issues between east and west

[@garygriffin4744]

Was at Tempelhof from 73 to 75. I lived and worked on the 6th floor (Heavy RADAR). Would do it all again if given the chance.

[@TXL-BER]

Mark 76-79 in the Army’s Berlin Brigade and 85-90 as a DoD civilian employee, to include 9 Nov 89 when the Wall fell.

[@Mikec19]

@@TXL-BER Jealous of your experience. I'm stationed in Grafenwoehr now..

[@tetrahedron1000]

I lived in West Berlin between 1980 and 1982 in Kreuzberg at the time of the squatting (besetzen) movement. I don't remember experiencing any intriguing issues between east and west, only battles between squatters and police. I did visit East Berlin a few times. Of course, all this espionage was going on without people knowing about it. An interesting time in a way. There was nothing in this film that I could relate to.

[@michaelbellinger1363]

Mikec19, I was in Hohenfels from 2003-2008. Templehof closed in 2008. Flew into there from two deployments. I’m a big spy fan and Berlin was an awesome place. There was a bar I used to go to there, called “The Socialist Bar”. It was in East Berlin. It was restored to how it looked like during the Cold War. Thanks for your service.

[@raulcruzquintanilla9834]

The cold war times were weird but the espionage novel between cia and kgb is intriguing indeed

[@GoodVideos4]

You could not isolate a society from the rest of the world - A lesson that is still being learned today, 32 years later.

[@whomagoose6897]

I spent my first years in the US Army in the Berlin Brigade, 1977 to 1979. Assigned to the 2nd Bn/6th Infantry Regiment. Located at McNair Barracks. I remember the occasional spy swaps between the CIA and KGB. I don't know what the German name of the bridge between West Berlin and East Berlin. The Americans named that bridge Freedom Bridge. When there was a spy exchange nobody could go anywhere around Freedom Bridge.

[@whomagoose6897]

The video talked of Freedom Bridge. Called the Glienicke Brücke in German. I never was able to see that bridge when I was in West Berlin. Pictures show it was l, and is, far larger than as described to me.

[@mjfan653]

Only a few years ago on the nato-russia border there was a spy exchange on a bridge. Nothing has changed, russia took a beating in 1990s, and lost territories they occupied, but now they are trying with any means to take them back, and take even more this time, so that 1990 would not repeat. If nato does not uparm as a deterrent, there will soon be war in Europe, and maybe even in america.

[@BOSS_MOTO]

That poor woman who was used ☹️ I felt so sorry for her

[@jameswhite153]

poor girl

[@heidimiller642]

Why did her boss allow this to happen? Why didn't her boss help her find someone safe to date and marry? Her story perfectly illustrates the difference in ideals between the two political parties. The West tends to claim we have privacy in our homes. The emphasize this. What they don't do is spy on their own people. They are way too trusting. The West claims it won, but there is never a winner in any war. The West never admits this to me, because they want me on their side of the political isle, but the Russians were better at spycraft than West Germans were. Obviously they were, otherwise nobody ever would have built the wall between the two sides.

[@M4G4M4N]

@@heidimiller642 have you been living under a rock? The west spies on all of its citizens, have you not heard of the NSA and Eric Snowden?

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

There were plenty of men, just like her who were targets of honeytraps. They were both victims

[@Onizukachan915]

I didn’t, she knew what she was doing.

[@sandragonzales3060]

Two corrections: Germany capitulated on 7 May 1945, and the CIA was not founded until September 1947. Until ‘47, it was still the OSS.

[@michaelbellinger1363]

Sandra Gonzales, And it’s emblem is used in the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) patch. It also had a professional baseball player in it’s ranks. Moe Berg of the Boston Redsox.

[@billbrown1335]

Right?! How old was the guy who put this together, 22?

[@roberteaston6413]

In 1983 Canadian Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau, gave the USA permission to test the cruse missile over Cold Lake, Alberta. He was criticized for this because the cruse missile was a first attack weapon. NATO was a defensive alliance and therefore Canada had no business allowing the USA to test a first strike weapon on Canadian soil. Somebody pointed out that sometimes when Canada negotiates with the USA concessions are made on a package deal. Canada may have let the Americans test the cruse missile if they would do something about acid rain. The two are not related but that is how it goes between the two countries. I am told that when the CIA started up after WW2 they had no knowledge of many parts of the world because, unlike Britain and France, they had no overseas empire; the Philippines and Guam excepted. One way they derived info was from returned missionaries. When an American missionary returned to the USA and spoke at his/her church a couple of CIA agents would be there. After the church service they would ply the missionary for info. The questions were not about Jesus but info about the country where they ministered.

[@noverdinho]

I agree with an ex-cia agent in Secrets of War series who concluded that CIA was pretty much in their history being one step behind and largely followed KGB's rule of the game. KGB had 2 advantages CIA not, 1st it was an older organization dating back from Cheka time in 1920s. Its operational methods were derived from grass root activities since Tsarist era. Consequently, it had more engagement to grass root elements of society such as labour unions, women's organization, and peasant unions. CIA had no such connections and experience, and it was originally a manifestation of an emergency idea out of the OSS whose mission was primarily as special operation commandos, so its role was not originally being an intelligence agency in purest form unlike KGB. 2nd, KGB controlled the position of state security, therefore was also holding several vital security directorates incl. external-internal intelligences, espionage, and secret police whilst CIA was largely limited to external intelligence before being enlarged to include espionage in 1950s. In turn, KGB controlled large number of information from its naturally secretive chain of operations CIA didnt even possess before. Still, CIA doesnt have and never will to have the function of secret police in which, according to the ex-CIA, was giving KGB advantages on propaganda, grass root recruitment, and misinformation operations. These resulted on why KGB had it easier to establish new contacts and networks than CIA with or without large fundings. In those early Cold War periods, only Mossad that was equal to KGB.

[@artcurious807]

Aotearoa Excubitores , this is true but today the FBI very much fulfills the roll of Secret police, and since 9/11 the FBI has taken on a much more expansive roll inside and outside the United States. They not only conduct counter terrorism operations but spy on domestic political groups, black groups, gun owners, Trump supporters, and even Christian churches. Although authoritarian regimes, like China, will always have an advantage because they can penetrate deeply into their societies without legal inhibition the west must rely on technology and using the capitalist products to make up for its constitutional restrictions on gathering domestic intelligence. I have had extensive contact with the extent of some FBI spying methods and as an American witnessing them try to undermine our own presidential elections in 2016, I can say that The FBI is catching up to the KGB in many ways.

[@dickiesdocos]

I thought the Brits were supposed to be the best or one of? At least thats what they say

[@samuelparker9882]

Aotearoa Excubitores There's no US versus THEM. They ALL work and help each other! Because presidents and premires DONT CONTROL OR RUN NATIONS. A few old blue blood FAMILIES run the entire world! FACT!

[@squidcaps4308]

KGB also had jurisdiction over anyone, including party leaders. Of course, party leaders selected KGB leaders so it balances out but it was serious threat to ANY politician in the soviet system. It was a real state within a state.

[@noverdinho]

@@squidcaps4308 talking bout jurisdiction, it reminds me that almost all intelligences of the Warsaw Pact were directed by them too (e.g Staatsicherheit, Esbecja, AVH). Mindblowing when u actually realize that KGB was more powerful than CIA from this perspective

[@collieclone]

One point of correction: The Berlin airlift did not only involve the Americans, much as they like to make it look that way. The RAF flew into RAF Gatow in south-west Berlin and the French into Tegel in the north-west at the same time as the USAF flew into Tempelhof. Airmen from all three allied air forces lost their lives in this dangerous enterprise. Also, Teufelsberg was useful to the Brits as well as the Americans. Don't forget that the Soviet Army and Air Force were present in huge numbers in the GDR, so much more than telephone calls were intercepted.

[@vagoeart1262]

Mine had no commercials

[@KeithMML]

Yeah but it wasn’t even close to the American effort and didn’t the British give up halfway threw? I know France didn’t even have the planes capable of carrying anything significant

[@collieclone]

@@KeithMML A fine example of simply inventing history for your own purposes. The Royal Air Force had 5,290 personnel involved in the airlift at the beginning of 1949 plus 160 WAAF women. 40 Brits died during the airlift, and the RAF in Gatow (plus a contingent of civilian aircraft) handled 42% of all landings, which continued right till the end when the Soviets lifted the blockade. Britain introduced bread rationing in 1948 (which they had never done even during the war) to release food for the German population, which was starving. Don't forget that Britain's cities (particularly in England) were largely in ruins after the war due to direct bombing raids by the Nazis and the country was saddled with an enormous debt to pay for the war, so the airlift meant an enormous sacrifice for them. I resent that sacrifice being airbrushed out of history by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

[@jasonclaros7073]

@@collieclone that's all well and good but try doing it without trying to diminish the well deserved credit America has for the airlift almost to the point of trying to demonize our efforts while greatly padding yours.

[@Cryin_Lion]

@@collieclone Thank you for sharing all of this very detailed and relevant knowledge. I wasn't aware of the profound and heroic sacrifices by Britain's soldiers and citizens. I resent the incessant chest pounding by Americans who are too insecure to handle truth. Notice the 'ok but we're still better than you' refrain by some in this section who were blatantly ignorant enough to leave Britain's actions unacknowledged.

[@KelticTim]

The KGB man is hysterical. “We were better because we had better ideals” scoreboard buddy, scoreboard.

[@emedel5772]

He boasts about a "better" country that has been defunct for 30 years 🤣🤣

[@80sOutrunFan]

All drunks, just look at Russia lmao.

[@shawndyer8140]

They are behind the Dems so they are still in the game.

[@shawndyer8140]

Living on capitalism s scrap s are better than starving.

[@shawndyer8140]

@@emedel5772 not a better country just system s that still live off the sweat of us peons.

[@TheGrandmaMoses]

'I was 32, I was intelligent' - proceeds to bring papers to a man she knows for less than a year, who tells her the papers are unimportant, so she should bring more of those unimportant papers. And SHE DOES! So much smartz. I tell you, some people...

[@natelax1367]

You know those papers about weapons systems. Definitely not important

[@helenajennings4912]

Ya seems a little suspicious 🤔

[@helenajennings4912]

Maybe she was young and stupid 🤔

[@matthewgabbard6415]

Imagine being an ex Stasi agent. All those lives you ruined, or tried your best to. Yeah you may have been better at things, but the West never tried to control people like that. I think some secrets were just allowed to be leaked so that the Eastern Bloc could worry about how far behind they actually were. The East German inferiority complex was a driving factor behind the Stasi. They were right, they were inferior, to the West and the Soviets. Imagine being the lapdog of the Soviets, sad. And when the Soviets tried, too late to reform, the East Germans still maintained that Stalinist nonsense

[@t6v5c2]

An willfully naive, old, and stubborn fool is indeed a pathetic sight. And now they face God’s judgment for assisting an ideology that killed hundreds of millions.

[@vkrgfan]

Hello white supremacist .

[@kollo3457]

Germans are now the lapdogs of the americans

[@JC-vo5dt]

Former D/CIA: "It was not a nice game". I imagine not. How could 10,000s of KGB and Stasi agents see, visit and [some] live in the West and not want that for themselves and their families forever v. what they had in USSR or DDR? I'd like to see a video on family/friend reunions (assuming any) after the Stasi files became public and you were able to see who spied on you, what was said and/or who cost you x-years in prison for uttering a simple derogatory statement. Forgiveness? Revenge? Did the murder rate or assault rate go up in Germany after the fall of the DDR? I don't think I'd be too forgiving if I learned that a close relative or friend reported me to the Stasi and I then spent 10 years in a DDR prison. The sheer number of spies world wide must be astonishing.

[@JTA1961]

& from the German Americans I know in merica they're not going to forgive & forget easily

[@JC-vo5dt]

@@JTA1961 25% German here.

[@msamour]

I just posted a comment to that effect just now. If this would have happened in the US or Canada, they would still be finding the bodies of traitors 30 years later.

[@williamowings6857]

My dad was stationed in Germany during the late 60s. His task was to do whatever maintenance required welding in the zone between West and East. He told his helper not to wander off. The East take their wall seriously. And they are watching us. He started wandering around and an an East German in a snow suit appeared out of nowhere. He pointed to the Army truck. My dad made a show of slapping his helper in the back of the head for being stupid. The German smiled and nodded. My dad shrugged and nodded back. And just as fast as the Border gaurd appeared he disappeared back into cover. My dad got some sort of reward for it but thought it was silly. Other young men were dying in Vietnam and he was repairing and installing outhouses with incinerator toilets. He was drafted and happy enough with his assignment. Counted himself lucky to get it.

[@JTA1961]

OH Weld...

[@williamowings6857]

@@JTA1961 Yes. We are welder/machinists by trade. I forget that's not an everyday thing for everybody. I can see I wasn't very clear about that now. It's the family trade. Everyone is required to learn the basics so they can always find work. If you want to do something else we will support that. A lot of us go into the military for college funds and that's usually what they put us to work doing while serving. It just happens to suit me personally but went into the Navy to take courses in CAD and CNC programing to bring the shop up to date after my enlistment was up.

[@mattt525]

@@williamowings6857 it is weird to think of but we are rare breed. My Dad always taught me basics. Said if I could weld I would be more valuable than a frontline troop.

[@Mr9Guns]

This war continues to this day.

[@danielyoung2027]

Mr9Guns exactly. except we don't call it anything anymore. except for narmal..we are all spying on each other 24/7

[@jamesnichols5163]

I think after the Salisbury attack they officially stated an new information war had begun, hence the public conference by British and Dutch intelligence services public ally embarrassing the GRU for being caught spying on the UN investigation into the shooting down of MH17, which is highly unusual.

[@odst_0054]

Damn right

[@slappy8941]

Except now, the CIA is also trying to destroy America.

[@odst_0054]

Hahaha damn right

[@dgriffen1]

The more you hear these stories and the more you learn, the more you realise it was really all about communication and the lack of between the two nations. There will always be differences of opinions, but it makes you wonder why they just don't talk to each other..

[@heidimiller642]

Who is a coward? The spies are. Why aren't they just asking questions and offering help? No where do I see any of them working to improve living conditions on the planet. All the language of these spy craft videos is about winning and loosing, or who is better than who. I never hear any language that implies a willingness to create friends in the communist countries.

[@michaelmorgan9601]

@DamienGriffen buddy I feel as if that is the whole point. Keeping secret your biggest secrets will keep you in higher power if you are thinking I have much more money and weapon than you and your country

[@ryanbell9376]

One is authoritarian and the other is democratic, polar opposite beliefs

[@alexm566]

there's internet and still Russia and Ukraine have war. it is about mentality of leaders and not individual citizens. I don't think average Russian hates average Ukrainian.

[@TerryWhisk]

Bruh wtf💀

[@franc9111]

If any of you have the possibility of coming to Berlin, you might like to visit the German Spy Museum at Leipziger Pl., the STASI Headquarters Museum, the Checkpoint Charlie Museum and the DDR Museum. The Glienicker Bridge is still there, near Potsdam. Something else that is well worth seeing are the guided tours of the escape tunnels and their stories under the Wall - Berliner Unterwelten.

[@kiasax2]

Billy Waugh was a legend even when I was a young guy learning what I needed to know to survive. That was a bloody long time ago. His stories are incredible. Everyone in SF or CIA can learn from his lessons in survival. He was a real hero whose record in service wil never be equaled.

[@超虎生活]

48:35 I guess he didn't account for wind gusts that day when he put on his hairpiece.

[@Professional_street_hustler]

"How the CIA and the KGB fought over Berlin" one word "bell"

[@Professional_street_hustler]

@@petermilitscher4812 uhh I’m sorry but I have no idea what your going on about

[@Professional_street_hustler]

@@petermilitscher4812 dude seriously wtf are you talking about are you okay?

[@petermilitscher4812]

@KARLOS KHAOS what would Frida say

[@petermilitscher4812]

@KARLOS KHAOSanyone eat any sushi lately got stuck in on a toilet

[@ericwilson6994]

Knock knock who's there? You are now a suspect in a CIA, NSA, FBI spy breach and a satellite has just locked into your position and you, along with most of Delaware County law enforcement, are under clandestine electronic surveillance. I have no questions for you. Have a nice day :)

[@brianlee3357]

US historian at the 51 minute mark not particularly familiar with complexities of infiltrating agents into the USSR and the wider Eastern Block. He cites counter-intelligence as the reason. That's hardly the principal reason. Much more crucial to this was 1) border inpenetrability. These were not states with porous borders. 2) Fear as disincentive. To serve as a Western agent within Soviet and Soviet-satellite borders was sensationally dangerous. Consequences would extend outward from the agent, to his family, friends and even colleagues. The exponential layers of punishment was a serious deterrent. 3) Proximity. Anyone even remotely close to areas of strategic sensitivity were under considerably-great levels of observation and scrutiny. To turn someone in a Soviet ministry, major manufacturing facility, defense industry would be similar to trying to flip someone in the US working at Area 51. This is largely why the most effective flips were actually KGB or GRU agents. They were the observers, not the observed.

[@t6v5c2]

And yet they lost - 🧐

[@dickburt69]

@@t6v5c2 The KGB rarely lost a battle. They were extremely effective like the original poster implied. Of course they lost after the USSR crumbled.

[@brentfarvors192]

I also found the "spy tunnel" completely USELESS; Anyone with the literal PRIVILEGE of using a telephone, would be too afraid to say anything of any importance....

[@brentfarvors192]

@@t6v5c2 That's because it was "eventually" learned, the only way to "beat" socialism/communism, is to let them destroy themselves...Communists strongest opponents...are fellow communists...

[@vkrgfan]

USSR disintegrated not because of KGB, because Gorbachev was a stupid strategist and naively believed that the U.S. has a good intentions.

[@RaniNicholeM]

Thanks!

[@BenState]

That lady still takes no responsibility.

[@A_Haunted_Pancake]

@Ben - Even worse, she seems to not care at all about anybody else. It's so sad for MEEEE !!! That she probably got People killed ... Really a shame that she managed to escape.

[@A_Haunted_Pancake]

@typo pit I can see why she made you think of Kahane. Also no regrets, except "They betrayed meeee !" P.S.: It really is remarkable, how that woman could / can find "systemic right-wing extremism" everywhere - Even in the DDR. It's definitely the World that's messed up, not her ...

[@alexandrubogdan7138]

That's a good documentary but incomplete. Until the late 1970s, communism had a romantic image in the West youth, mostly in the 1960s when students viewed communism through romantic eyes. You might wonder why. Not because communism was good, but because West had a lot of issues such as segregation or pointless wars. Theoretically, communism promises equality and freedom. During the 1960s social revolution, a lot of young people were attracted by communism. This is one of the reasons why Stasi and KGB were able to recruit based on ideology more easily than the CIA who needed to pay millions to their double agents. When the western politicians adopted more social justice and individual liberties, when communism crimes were revealed and when the socialist economic systems collapsed under their weight, all people realized that communism was, in fact, a stupid experiment.

[@danielyoung2027]

Alexandru Bogdan I'm a college graduate with a degree in accounting..im a capitalist through and through. Though I believe with our country in such dispare from having no new.net jobs since the year 2000 I'm starting to think America could start to view communism more romantically as you stated above. With the rich people in this country just passing the money back and forth aka redistribution of wealth..Maybe the Gov does need to come in and nationalize some big corporations so that a portion of all the money we have is guaranteed to trickle down to mainstreet. When they bailed out ING and the 12 Banks that money never made its way down to main street like the Fed intended it too. So we call communism something else. Maybe Nationalism? But I think we are going to have to try something new and radical to get America back to work. The quantitative easing should not have gone to Freddie mac and fannie Mae. It should have been given to labor groups for projects like updating all the bridges in America. That way the money would have his main street!

[@ricsta7660]

@Alexandru Bogdan Very well stated as communism of that era was indeed romanticized, was it due to Vietnam or Civil Rights movement in the US? No easy answers, yet self governing society is not where our Society is now or ever will be? re. Confucius, or even Buddha, Jesus?

[@alexandrubogdan7138]

@@ricsta7660 Communism was romanticized not only in the US. Vietnam War, Racial Segregation, Algerian War, UK high-income inequality at that time. Europe and North America had at that time more students than ever before. Educated people saw a lot of issues within their countries. Communists promised to fix all these things. Che Guevara is still a romantic figure, a symbol of revolution and freedom. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJvcfH2HYtR3a6s

[@ricsta7660]

@@alexandrubogdan7138 I Agree. Yet the fact remains that there probably is no social economic system that satisfies all of society. I do recall the Soviet Union supporting "democratic" uprisings, as well as the United States supporting "business as usual". Perhaps control of areas that possess the finite resource such as petroleum may be laid to blame? Compare and contrast Vietnam & Afghanistan. To further confuse matters, there are the Crimean as well as Syrian disputes. The reality is that China is actually harnessing solar energy to such a point that many of these disputes between the communism vs capitalism will seem like child's play. All empires rise & fall. Return of the Dragon.

[@johnnyscifi]

Yea...but thats not what happened...nationalism, on the verge of infection poisoned the USSR from within. Also, being drawn into a protracted occupation in Afghanistan, and ofcourse, Chernobyl, followed by sanctions from Reagan's administration is what truly killed the USSR. Their economy was just fine, otherwise...

[@Mislavestina]

"I was pretty, intelligent" LOL, yeah, you were so intelligent you leaked documents to the enemy

[@paradox_1729]

You have never done anything dumb?

[@Mislavestina]

@@paradox_1729 I did but i dont claim im intelligent after ive done them

[@paradox_1729]

@@Mislavestina try to understand the context of the language, it will become clear what she meant.

[@Ekstrax]

haha yea he took the easiest but most dangerous route to succes. He knew he had a huge piece of intelligence and in my opinion it looks like he acted out of self-interest rather than anything else

[@BigMeech1]

Depends on where u stand

[@teleopinions1367]

I think that 9 commercial interruptions it's a bit obscene for this documentary. You seem a little greedier than American tv networks. One would have sufficed. Thank you.

[@planetdustbowl4825]

@Daher Hani I havent seen an ad online for 15 years lol

[@Ye4rZero]

@e n o u g h they do, adblock sells your browsing history. It's in their T&C even lol

[@zruvanastrian6062]

use opera browser with built-in ad blocker

[@Whiteshell204]

Use a pop-up blocker (y)

[@rickyboy613]

Obviously you're a spoiled American.

[@johnhopkins6260]

Able Archer '83 affirmed how close the Soviets were to collapse; once on their knees, the rest was inevitable.

[@louisvarre2197]

Such a great story. Amazing

[@Mirandorl]

45:26 Considering this would have been visible to the East Germans, I feel there is some subtext in the placement of the um ... balls

[@ts6603]

gachiHYPER NICE ARCHTECTURE

[@paulsuprono7225]

And, he got away with it - didn't get caught !

[@elzatatarinov1837]

Non tanto l’importante come iniziare quanto l’importante come finisce!

[@markvolker1145]

3:05 *"CIA, KGB the aim of each is to establish their influence and impose their ideologies"* Well, the USSR, "KGB" was established on ideology, the USA, "CIA" was founded on the philosophy of Galileo, Socrates, Platto, Aristotle, and the individual right for it's citizens to reap the benefit of his own harvest

[@destubae3271]

Is that what mkultra was about?

[@kirstinetermansen7234]

If you not born into war, you can't understand it, it's just not words

[@nicholastrice8750]

I know what you mean.

[@korth]

General George S. Patton said about the Soviets: “Lets not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then… we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we’ve failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!” He wrote to his wife: “If we have to fight them, now is the time. From now on, we will get weaker and they stronger.” The media would now begin a campaign to discredit General Patton. Patton, on September 22, 1945: “There is a very apparent Semitic influence in the press. They are trying to do two things: First, implement Communism, and Second, see that all businessmen of German ancestry and non-Jewish antecedents are thrown out of their jobs… … in my opinion and that of nonpolitical officers, it is vitally necessary for us to build Germany up now as a buffer state against Russia. In fact, I’m afraid we have waited too long.” And in a letter later that night to his wife: “I can’t tell them the truth that unless we restore Germany we will ensure that Communism takes America.”

[@Thoralmir]

Now we know that there were communist agents and sympathizers all throughout media, Hollywood, academia, and the government. You can thank the Vernona decrypts for that intel.

[@kamilkurach2982]

Great content but I was hoping to learn more about Field Station Berlin. Seems like good topic for follow-up documentary.

[@catallaxy]

Not too bad a documentary but, it does leave one with the feeling that there was a symmetry of culpability between the C.I.A. and the K.G.B. As though these were two muscle men pulling in opposite directions in an irrelevant tug of war. But the reality was that the Soviets were unwilling to leave their zone of occupation, in the north-east part of Germany, after the 2nd World War. The English, French and Americans were willing to leave but, since the communists were not, the people of Germany asked the other Western Allies to remain, fearing that if they went, the Soviets would try to pocket all of Germany. The whole reason the Soviets took the north-eastern third of Germany, was because it contained Germany's capital city of Berlin. The Soviets did have the nefarious intention of spreading communism all over Germany and the Western powers, particularly the Americans, were there to protect the rest of Germany, from being engulfed by these communists. So it really is a story of good versus evil. Unfortunately our media has a tendency to depress everything to the lowest common denominator.

[@gionncaomhinmorpheagh4791]

[Quote] "Unfortunately our media has a tendency to depress everything to the lowest common denominator". [Unquote]. Actually, "our media" just continue to push the dishonest propaganda that the Soviets wore the black hats and the Septics wore the white hats. You might want to take the time and trouble to research what really happened in the Cold War, instead of relying on folks with a vested interest in misinforming you. MsG

[@catallaxy]

@@gionncaomhinmorpheagh4791 Believe me, i did the research. I lived and worked in Berlin for six years, after the fall of the Berlin Wall.

[@simplicius11]

The Soviets wanted unified and neutral Germany after the war, similar to Austria. Stalin sent *four public proposals* to the Allies, that's pretty easy to find. All of these were refused.

[@catallaxy]

@@simplicius11 They were refused because they were insincere.

[@bobbyboygaming2157]

My favorite channel on KZbin great stuff!

[@kyledurrant8452]

So far timeline have come through with a relevant documentary every time I've searched one on KZbin. Top class👍❤️

[@unpredictable4099]

What were the advantages or strengths each side (the CIA and KGB) had during the different stages of this secret spy war?

[@lillieevans8334]

habiba ashraf I think the Russians had more experience and were better spies; the Americans may had more resources

[@unpredictable4099]

@@TheWhale45 thnxxx

[@aryanbhuta3382]

The CIA had more money, and an easier ability to make friends with neutral actors (leader of the free world, America's Hollywood charm, etc.) In addition, the USA was more developed than the USSR and thus had more legitimacy to its model of government. The KGB benefited from its country as well. The USSR was a very closed-off state. Their customs and immigrations controls, internal network to root out spies, and surveillance was beyond what the USA had. While the KGB could infiltrate the USA through the normal means of passing customs and settling down in the USA, the CIA had to use high-tech (and very, very expensive) disguises, stealthy, fast recon jets, and other methods to get any intel on the Soviets. The KGB also had fewer problems with defectors than the USA, as the KGB had deterrence options unavailable to the USA.

[@jaygray9778]

Great video but the amount of ads disturbs the flow of concentration for the documentary.

[@sam8404]

Download an adblocker extension and/or KZbin vanced. That's what I do and haven't seen an ad in years.

[@ter8901]

3:50 that middle man handshake was to prevent a poisioning im assuming?

[@Tomokakii]

Pretty sure that’s the president

[@robertmorrison8150]

And the end result was the fall of the Soviet Union.

[@ragincajun7625]

The mighty USSR.....where everyone was equally poor and stood in line for stale bread. Those were the glory day's.

[@VictorLazlo1995]

J S ha ha ha ...da tovarih😂🤣😅

[@A_Haunted_Pancake]

@@ragincajun7625 That's such a lie ! The Party-Elite was never poor and definitely never stood in line ;) .

[@rodx5571]

When looking at communist and fascist states, you just have to ask yourself, "self, if their system is so great, why must they put up walls and fences, mine fields, and shock troops to keep the people in?". To which you would answer "self, it may not be so great after all". The walls are never to keep the enemy out, the troops can do that.

[@diesect33]

Yeah walls didn't help israel at all......

[@flaminmongrel6955]

It was the ideology that kept them going and it was the ideology that lost.

[@lovedaddy1582]

A very similar ideology has worked wonders for China though, and they make the American economy happen. Isn't that weird?

[@theenemyofthearrogant4784]

@@lovedaddy1582 what? the fact that US hasn't universal health care system?

[@A_Haunted_Pancake]

@@lovedaddy1582 Yeah, It's such a benefit for America, that millions of manufacturing-jobs have gone to China. The sooner they can break that link, the better for the U.S.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Excellent presentation!

[@LindsayKay]

Reckon I can spot Deutschlanders who grew up in the DDR. Things like never forgetting their day on the apartment building's snow-shoveling roster, being (extra) cold with strangers.

[@OiabSc]

Interesting.

[@will._.x_.861]

Great piece!!!

[@shamimakter4234]

'Everything fair in love and war', I do not know about love but it is certainly true about war.

[@sickstreaming]

Ironically, this documentary, produced by the likes of the British, has failed to detail the involvement and subsequent impact their very own “MI6” had during such time period.

[@onenamlit3861]

Could someone please clear me up about the comment made by the KGB agent at 9:34: "We couldn't lose the GDR, because it was the last defense against the socialist system in Europe"? Was this perhaps a mistranslation and the agent actually said "capitalist" instead of "socialist"? This statement really confused me.

[@howlandowlle7953]

. The Western socialism practiced in democratic countries such as Britain and France was a system that rivaled the interests of Communism with its system of central control and inseparability of party and state. . The system where every aspect of government and society was ruthlessly monopolized by a single political party was threatened by the freedom of thought that characterized multiparty socialist systems.

[@CTOInformation]

there is no clear cut between capitalism and socialism.most european countries have states owned enterprises and central planning.

[@thesmallerhalf1968]

@@howlandowlle7953 hilarious.

[@worldwar2752]

Yugoslavia was NOT part of the Warshaw pact as it was presented on the map @ 2:43.

[@abhishekdev258]

"1 in 3 Germans are on files." Google - hold my smartphone.

[@EmmettConrecode]

As a TWA pilot and a Reserve Marine. I would pick up trips to Berlin to troll the KGB, saying I was doing secret preparation for the USMC in Berlin. 😅😮😂

[@stevenholton438]

Went through there in 67 spent a night on the platform drinking Apfelsaft and great German beer!

[@spideywhiplash]

If your profile picture is you. You do not look old enough to have been drinking in 67.😉

[@stevenholton438]

@@spideywhiplash Let's see now, born in 51 therefore I was 16 and many was the beer drunk on the train through the 2 Germany's.....I really am not sure but perhaps they didn't employ a rigorous carding system for itinerant schoolboys or perhaps the train drinking age was 16? Regardless, the beer in both Germany and Poland impressed me at this early age. Are you the British or American Internet Police? I find, as a general rule, I like to withhold a comment I consider critical in favour of the more positive comment.

[@stevenholton438]

I did note your wink which perhaps elevates your comment to this status😏

[@antonk3533]

@@stevenholton438 you are fine, it’s legal to drink beer with 16

[@Robespierre-lI]

Russia has not given up on the idea of isolating a society from the world.

[@OakInch]

25:00 women specifically targeted and manipulated because it is easy to do.

[@andreas3850]

28:45 Haha she says "I was pretty and intelligent".Doesn't look like she possessed either of those traits.

[@henrysantos121]

Great documentary well done.🤔.

[@dantaylor7344]

24:30 Ohhhh Pershing II was never deployed until the 1980s, 1983 if I'm correct.

[@Kaden10]

Is it me or is this type of warfare more intriguing than conventional warfare.

[@anthonyowen1556]

Why did the Berlin blockade happen> Because the US, Britain and France withdrew from the weekly liason talks with the Russians (which they had agreed to at the start of the occupation) and also introduced the Deutschmark, an attempt to destabalise the East German economy, and contrary to promises they had made to the Russians at the start of the occupation. I must admit I gave up watching at this point, if basic historical facts like these are simply ignored, then the whole documentary would seem not to be worth watching.

[@Carhuclough]

Likewise. This is how history is taught in the 'free world'. W. Churchill did say that history would be kind to Britain as the British would write the history.

[@CV-ly6ct]

The problem Is that the results of the soviet union's ideological warfare are more apparent today than ever.

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Still regret not going to Berlin when the wall was falling. I could have done it. But finishing my studies at university seemed more important back then. Idiot I was. I only needed a week off. That surely would have been possible. Can we rewind time please?

[@santoshdnyanmote5170]

Ha ha ha...I visited Berlin both just before the wall collapse and immediately after the war was torn down

[@harleythomas4094]

why did the world kick the Ussr when it was down,look at us now*Bush sr,Clinton mostly

[@ninirema4532]

Thank you very 🙏🙏 much 😅❤

Do people find it strange that, if you go back in history, before the "AD", when the popular beliefs were into multiple Gods you go to Ancient Greece and the Persians. In Greece, Sparta remembles Russia and later on the Romans. Whereas Athens resembles democracy. The Persians resembles most of what we still see in the Arab world. Nothing has changed really in the forms of government.

[@rowenabeatty804]

My ex was with the CIA in Berlin in the late 1980's before the wall was destroyed. I traveled to East Berlin quite a few times. I remember having to get authorization to travel on any highways out of Berlin. I remember the towers with East German soldiers with shotguns aimed at us.

[@liviume918]

why is the woman at 29:00 not being prosecuted for treason ?

[@pinkbunny6272]

My dad has story on getting out of East Berlin, with the help of a woman they didn't know. She gave them tickets to the train ride, slipped back to West Berlin. I'm still waiting to go to Berlin. Imagine the train rides I can take! Check Point Charlie!!!

[@drivenbymike]

I remember some of these things. I was Berlin Bde 82 -85.

[@ericwilson6994]

Knock knock who's there? You are now a suspect in a CIA, NSA, FBI spy breach and a satellite has just locked into your position and you, along with most of Delaware County law enforcement, are under clandestine electronic surveillance. I have no questions for you. Have a nice day :)

[@Barneys69Ruiz]

17:02 what’s the nameof this song?

[@Flyingkittoh]

4 agents vs 23 agents and both sides think it's a fair deal ? , guess this is where the matter of quality gets involved

[@Boston_Police_isagang]

The best part of waking up is Folgers in your cup

[@Zionist4everr]

2:42 There is a picture of Yugoslavia within the USSR, sadly Yugoslavia was never part of the USSR... So its propaganda from the start...

[@billbrown1335]

Oh yes it was. In so many ways it was red reef

[@Zionist4everr]

@@billbrown1335 Yugoslavia was a communist country, but it was most certainly NOT part of the USSR!

[@brianbelton3605]

@ 33:31, and the previous few minibuses. I would enjoy learning more, of this journey. Especially., the Berchedesgaten area (hope I spelled correctly. I am ready

[@ddd-ly3rv]

'The man of her dreams'. And in no way had she been indoctrinated by the representations she saw, a period of history obviously noted for its impartial and objective out look and having no obsession with the perfect person. It probably could have been anyone with pearly smiles and slick hair and a sprucy dress sense who could say all the right things.

[@rerun3283]

ok

[@ddd-ly3rv]

@@rerun3283 breaking bread with it?

[@Last_Chance.]

Hence. "the right one".

[@AviationNut]

KGB had huge presence in East Germany because KGB had to go against the American CIA, British MI6 and West German BND.

[@mdkcjtl5523]

The KBG had better network the CIA has better equipment in terms of the SR 71 the fastest and highest flying plane that was never detected once by the Soviets however the KGB was good at doing dirty work on the ground and moving around Respect from Serbia 🇷🇸

[@bodyboardingchronicles602]

The K.G.B. is in Sacramento CA.

[@afrikakorps8362]

The SR-71 was tracked all the time..fired upon several times... But all the plane had to do was accelerate to outpace any SAMs..

[@eriksmith2514]

The man of her dreams appears and she feels like running away . . . Gabriella sounded a little mixed up from the start.

[@ALSILVERU2]

Womans instincts intuition she denied. Luckily he wasn't a serial killer, but her life was still as much devastated by the time and original life direction he took stole from her, as she portrayed that by telling and ending her own story. #👁👂

[@bibekghatak5860]

Very nice and interesting video .

[@lolzhammer8281]

We in the free world owe these folks more than we'll ever know. I can't help but wonder how they feel right now... What with the credulous pawns of the old enemy now marching through our streets and institutions. Watching as they make their idiotic demands, bully anyone who dares even question their beliefs and trying their damnest to tear down everything these brave souls helped defend.

[@lordbendtner7021]

BLM leaders did state they were trained Marxists. ;)

[@carlhuffman454]

You are correct. We're appalled.

[@stevenwgoode]

You must be talking about the trump cult.

[@mark.J6708]

People these days have almost no functional memories of what these days were like.

[@Mac3622]

Nice map at the 2:43 mark. Did they forget Canada was a founding member of NATO and had troops in Germany until the 1990's?

[@HolyGuacamolean]

Mac3622 Yes....Eh!

[@carolchen2320]

Yeah, the world tends to forget us. Sorry about that.

[@HolyGuacamolean]

@@carolchen2320 Hahahahaha the Canadian apology when it's not necessary. I love that. So Canadian!!!

[@johnmellon1820]

yeah and Berlin was actually split into 4. there was a British and French sector as well

[@Akrushta]

Lol that's why I like the "Man from U.N.C.L.E" and "Mission Berlin" for a reason. 🗿

[@laurafair-schulz683]

Nice footage but the narration is sensationalized and lacks meaningful analysis. It also contains several factual mistakes. Markus Wolf, for example, was not the "head of the Stasi" (Erich Mielke was for most of the DDR's existence) but in charge of foreign intelligence.

[@Wizardof]

Is that Paul Williams narrating/translating?? Not the guy from The Young and the Restless but A Star Trek Voyager guest star...?

[@shubhamsingh-lc8km]

As per my observation KGB and Stasi were better at spying than CIA.

[@robertosovietunion7567]

Because in those days the Soviet Union dreaded KGB are the 1st Class Spy network than the US CIA .The East German Secret Police the STASI operative are trained by the KGB so thats why 1st Class Spy Network for its Citizen internal security apparatus

[@buninparadise9476]

10:20 Karlshorst is actually situated IN (central eastern) Berlin (belonging to Lichtenberg)

[@jitterball]

Soviet Union never collapsed, it only transformed...

[@mdkcjtl5523]

I wouldn’t say it transformed the Ukraine Belarus Bulgaria Latvia Lithuania Uzbekistan where all lost during the Soviet Union collapse of 1991 a lot of people think it was just Russians that fought for the Soviets and where in the KGB that’s not true tho even Stalin wasn’t Russian I’m from Serbia and that’s probably the only thing we dislike about Russians is stilling credit for other nations work for their own I think the KGB was a better network but the CIA has better equipment the SR 71 was the fastest and highest flying aircraft and still is and it looked really good

[@chrismccabe1795]

Your thinking of Russia, the soviet union which had 15 provinces collapsed. that is a fact. Russia is only 1 of those 15 provinces. and less than half the population of the USSR had. while Russia did dig it's claws in Belarus successfully. It hasn't anywhere else. No matter how much Putin would like to.

[@pbac9570]

No. It collapsed. The Union was a close union between multiple countries … the Russian Federation is a centralised federalist power. The Union is gone and the closest thing to it today is probably the Eurasian Union. Those countries under the SU were not part of Russia … but the "states" of Russia today are part of the Russian Federation.

[@kulak8548]

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation, considered to be the direct successor to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, is the second largest party in Russia. The largest party in Russia, United Russia, essentially shares the same ideology of a state run by its intelligence agencies, but in a more developed form. Russia's governing political ideology is Putinism, essentially the notion that former military or intelligence officers should run the state. So yes, Russia is quite accurately characterized as Soviet Union 2.0.

[@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542]

@@kulak8548 what the UR party is big tent party not a singular ideological party and Putinism isnt an ideology per se but rather his policies

[@joelmalone7922]

While I was bored and skimming through the comments section I came upon a person who wanted to know which country's state tv station produced this doc-show and they assumed it was Russia because they used the initials U.R.S.S. to describe the English U.S.S.R which is what most of us use. This may surprise some of you but it's a French company that made this. If it were Russian/Soviet the initials would've been C.C.C.P. You can also tell it's French because of the rather warm and positive views and lines they used when describing in their mind the rather more superior Soviet system. Out of all the important Western nations during the second-half of the 20th century it was definitely France who took both the softest line as well as having the most positive views of the Soviet Union. Also, of all the West European Euro-Communists it was the French who were most loyal to the CPSU. It had to do with Maurice Thorez, First Secretary of the French Party. He was a 'dyed in the wool' Stalinist who never advanced beyond that. He wasn't much into thinking for himself. That was best because following 'Big-Brother's' line was far more important than anything a single individual could come up with. This is Soviet Communism, not Western Individualism...

[@Last_Chance.]

I do love the french. Great people. I've been there many times and had many unforgettable experiences.

[@paladin0654]

Well done. It's curious that the KGB agent at 9:39 talks about the "socialist threat" of Europe when the second "S" in USSR means socialist.

[@stefanb6539]

I think, that's just a botched translation. "It was a last defence FOR the socialist system in Europe" makes much more sense than a "defence AGAINST the socialist system".

[@joeoliveira8633]

During the Spanish Civil War, the Soviet Union had people fighting against the Spanish republicans who were socialists.

[@stefanb6539]

Ahm, no! The Soviet Union (and Mexiko) supported the Republicans against Franco's Nationalists.

[@stefanb6539]

national socialism is a fraudulent brand. Socialism is all about class struggle, national socialism says the classes are fine as they are, all the problems come only from mixing of races. So it denies everything, that socialism is about, but uses the brand name to appeal to the lower class, while getting paid for by the upper class to destroy trade unions and conjure up scape goats. As for the video, the struggle for Berlin between Nato and Warsaw Pact took place after the fall of the 3rd Reich, at this time no one in Europe claimed to be National Socialist, (although Franco's fascist regime was still going, he just never used the national socialist brand), so this couldn't be what was talked about.

[@alekstash]

@@stefanb6539 the translator says "against... we cant hear what the rusky grandpa says but "against... makes no sense!

[@michaelahern6821]

Going through those Ghost stations must have been some experience....

[@carlhuffman454]

Try working in three of them. I did in the early 1970s.

[@john1606ful]

I never knew Dame Edna Everidge was a spy at 25 30

[@donaldhill2775]

Old post but well done 👍