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@habibaamr6968 Жыл бұрын
Stefan is Caroline's best friend!! Of course he's gonna protect her!!!
@senortrekkie8 ай бұрын
What Stefan did went beyond protecting. Caroline had already left, Tyler wasn't going to go after her or anything. Stefan acted wrongly out of his friendship with Caroline.
@_lolo7423 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how y'all blame Caroline, Tyler have a right to be mad becuz someone very close to him slept with his mom killer.... But Tyler was the one who leave Caroline and choose revenge over her,they already broke up many episodes ago
@-Sophia Жыл бұрын
It’s a show, not that deep but it’s interesting how people in the comments will focus on Damon, call him “needy”, call him “co-dependent” but those same people had nothing to say about the other brother. Just picking and choosing when certain behavior is bad depending on which character does it. Since nobody else has mentioned it, I will 😁 Stefan in 3x19: “no matter what I go through, fighting my blood lust, trying to gain control of my life again, none of that matters if she has feelings for somebody else” Stefan in 4x7 “I just want to rip into someone’s artery and feed until I can’t breathe anymore”, turns a guy, and forces Jeremy to stake him all bc Elena broke up with him Stefan in 5x4: says “the hunger returned” bc Elena tells him that she’s dating Damon and then he goes and bites Jesse His behavior/blood lust being dependent on how she feels about him and him feeling like fighting isn’t worth it if she doesn’t want him hmm…
@bhliss5088 Жыл бұрын
Yuuuup!!
@bailey3804 Жыл бұрын
This comment 👏🏼
@adeleis7 Жыл бұрын
people tend to forget that stelena's relationship was not healthy
@Alewaxon Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but that's a false equivalence... Trying to equate the amount of times that Stefan depended on Elena to behave himself or to "anchor" him VS the amount of times Damon needs it... Which is 100% of the time almost... Even those situations you listed have caveats; starting with that fact that in almost all of those situations Stefan actually got thru it BY HIMSELF or without Elena's hand holding or BECAUSE OF Elena... He might've said that in 3x19, but he did it anyways still knowing that Elena has feelings for Damon, so that one falls down... In 4x07 and the situation with the cure wasn't "just because Elena broke up with him", and you know it (or should know it) it was also because Elena was miserable as a vampire and now that the cure was a possibility he wanted that for him... And 5x04, Stefan literally had no memories, like, the context of that situation is WAY different; and guess what, when he got back to being himself, his actions or behaviors weren't affected or dictated by what Elena did or was presently doing, it was his PTSD So no, it is a false equivalence... This behavior from Damon ISN'T NEW and ISN'T RARE... it happens EVERY TIME he hits a bump in the road with Elena and he encounters any minor inconvenience... And, FYI, we are almost 6 seasons deep into Damon's "character development" and it is still happening... That's why it can be argued, quite successfully, that Damon's (almost) entire arc is defined or revolving around Elena and that he has very little character development that can be 100% assigned to himself... And it has been a mayor criticism of Damon character every since the show was aired, for a very good reason... And pretending that Stefan is just as dependent on Elena's approval or judgement in order to act like a half decent human being by naming a handful of out of context lines, that actually Stefan ended up resolving by himself or without direct "supervision" from Elena, it's just a HUGE stretch... Like, you know damn well that, for example, Damon doesn't really care or gives a fuck that he killed Aaron, he just regrets it in future episodes BECAUSE ELENA IT'S GOING TO GET MAD AT HIM, same with killing innocent Witmore's, same with many other bad deeds that he really only regrets or worries about because of what Elena would think of him... Not always, not 100% of the time and every situation, but most of it... That's quite different from Stefan's constant state of self punishment and regret for the things he does (same, not always, but most of the time)
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
very well said 👏❤️
@lucariomew365 Жыл бұрын
Notice that the only person who could've confirmed that Katherine isn't dead had pretty much been missing all episode. Convenient.
@Twix44 Жыл бұрын
Plot hole
@MaCherie92 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad you guys understand and empathize with Tyler's anger. People tend to bypass it when Klaus hasn't done anything to redeem himself towards these people, even a little bit, and it's so annoying when people glorify him.
@jojotherapy008 Жыл бұрын
They’ve put Klaus on S tier!!!
@reekaren2609 Жыл бұрын
I love Klaus, he's my all time favorite character, but I always felt bad for Tyler and hated that he wasn't even allowed to be angry over this.
@senortrekkie8 ай бұрын
@@jojotherapy008 so? That probably only means they like him as a character/villain. Enjoying his presence does not mean they root for him.
@habibaamr6968 Жыл бұрын
I'm genuinly curious what did Caroline do that makes her so bad to you guys? I've seen loads of reactors that likes her without watching upcoming seasons so what is YOUR issue with her?
@rach3l629 Жыл бұрын
Season 4 Caroline did it for them
@Alewaxon Жыл бұрын
I think mainly that she criticizes too much, mostly Damon... And they like Damon and they like the chaos that Damon and other characters, like Enzo, bring to the show; so they probably don't like a character that's overly critical of the bad behavior which is entertaining for them... So, it is (IMO) an entertainment issue mainly; because in moral terms or in terms of the story, there is really not much reason to "hate" her, given that she is almost entirely right in the things she "complaints" about.
@habibaamr6968 Жыл бұрын
@@Alewaxon I understand this but I just don't get people hating characters for hating characters that I love but I KNOW are problematic! I myself don't usually agree with Caroline but I know where she's coming from since Damon did her so wrong!! even if I don't see her side of things, I would just enjoy her banter with Damon and move on...also they are judging people for liking Caroline like it's "normal" to hate her!!
@calmbeast1329 Жыл бұрын
If u cannot see the fault then that means u are not a good judge of character.....and that means people like u must be ignored...💩
@fusifaafia1363 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the show in a while im not sure where I left off I think it’s when the double of Stephan shows up around there but yeah i don’t not care what type of development Caroline gets or if Tyler ever forgives her for that I will never understand or forgive Caroline I like her as a chart but I will never forgive her for what she did to tyler and yes (elana not sure if I spelt her name correctly) and Damon are in the same boat Damon for all the things he did and elana for getting with him idc if they broke up u should not fk your friends mom’s murderer I feel like most people who have a brain would agree with Tyler I personally thought he should have fought Caroline as there both supernatural and she can take a beating I wouldn’t kill her but she definitely deserves to get fked up
@habibaamr6968 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see you defend Damon's actions the next couple of episodes, calling him the "fun" compass 😂
@camjam420. Жыл бұрын
The way you guys act like Tyler has never done anything wrong lmao. He literally was gonna let Caroline die in season 2... but Caroline hooks up with Klaus and it’s poor Tyler. 🤣
@legendfraid9923 Жыл бұрын
You're so stupid that you don't even know why they have a problem with this 😂 it's not the fact that she slept with someone it's because that someone killed his mom
@Phizzo4real7 ай бұрын
Uhm, no he wasnt... if he wasn't willing to let Elena get sacrificed, what the fuck do you think he was going to let Caroline die. He let the torture her. That I find was wrong. But if you want start counting sins, Caroline is definitely way up there. She does all this crazy shit and turn around start sitting on everyone else for doing crazy shit 😂😂😂 They all do bad, crazy shit. I love tge character because of the performances, not because of some weird thinking that they are "good" or "morally good" ppl. No they are not 😂😂😂
@_lolo7423 Жыл бұрын
Even if you like a character you need to acknowledge how bad they are, it's annoying how you'll root for Damon when you kinda hate someone like Stefan, Bonnie, Caroline.... You don't have to like them, you have to understand them too.... What Katherine said about Damon was true , Elena can't be with Damon knowing he would take it out on someone and kill them whenever they had a fight or breaking up..... This is exactly what he always do, He blame Katherine for all the things he did even Vicki death... Stefan may have a bloodlust or he killed people more than Damon but The difference between Stefan and Damon is, Stefan choose to be good , his heart is pure, after everything his girlfriend and his brother did to him he wish his brother happiness while still love that girl, If Stefan was the one who love his brother girl Damon would kill Stefan or make him suffer in other way, it's not about the Body count and that is why Stefan is the better person......... Damon is no better than the 'Katherine' he despite, the difference is Damon has people who loves him and to give him many chance no matter what he did
@leahthemushy28594 ай бұрын
I agree with everything except damn killing Stefan. That’s the one thing he just wouldn’t do for Elena. He still could’ve killed Stefan even if it was or wasn’t his girl.
@foodiefiles6537 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Elena is not dead, her consciousness is suppressed by the Traveler magic. Katherine's spirit is occupying Elena's body
@amayarice2229 Жыл бұрын
The Stefan hate is ridiculous he didn’t even do anything this episode😭
@gentwhoisoverit6992 Жыл бұрын
They hate that man for no reason 😂
@senortrekkie8 ай бұрын
Punching Tyler is not nothing. The reactors did not show hate towards Stefan only disappointment in his action.
@Phizzo4real7 ай бұрын
He punched Tyler for having "potty mouth" like gtfoh.
@lizziem033 ай бұрын
I 💯 completely agree!
@gentwhoisoverit6992 Жыл бұрын
How y’all like evil Damon but everybody else gets heat 😂
@adalia1959 Жыл бұрын
Damon is back to his bad boy self. I prefer him this way. Him and Enzo killing and being generally badass is my favourite thing. Enzo is good for the show, he sort of takes the position Alaric did for Damon - the bromance. Katherine, I love you so much! Even though Stefan came to Caroline’s defense, I personally still didn’t see Tyler as the bad guy. Tyler is a hot head, he’s always been. The fact that he also didn’t retaliate and hit Stefan back shows he knew why Stefan punched him. I respect that.
@hfq6332 Жыл бұрын
Idk why pick and choose who to support or not, I mean y'all empathize with Tyler which is fine, Caroline slept with klaus so what everyone's done their fair share of shit like why not hold elena at the same place when she got with damon after he almost killed jeremy abused Caroline, jus becoz a characters a favourite y'all shouldn't look past Damon's behavior
@E.M2335 Жыл бұрын
To follow up with Hayley's pregnancy, you need to watch the Originals
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
فاقد اهمیت
@foodiefiles6537 Жыл бұрын
@@zaraamm1134 Actually it's very important
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
@@foodiefiles6537 nope
@rojeliocastro9733 Жыл бұрын
@@zaraamm1134 yes
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
@@rojeliocastro9733 ❌️
@amayarice2229 Жыл бұрын
Also Tyler had no right to attack Caroline they aren’t together. About to abuse her so wtf
@dennis2667 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t attack her he told her to leave lmao
@voxsilver7931 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he had every right to be upset
@rach3l629 Жыл бұрын
Wow, how many times does a dead person totally dominate an hour show? Lol It was deliciously Katherine Pierce all 42 minutes. Nina was beyond fantastic acting in this episode. I hope she got some kind of award for this season. Damon is back to his evil ways. This is good. Also, dat chemistry with Stefan and Caroline.
@33llie Жыл бұрын
i can't remember if this is true or not, but i think the whole "universe driving doppelgangers together" thing doesn't matter anymore at this point in the narrative because the whole point of it was to drive killable versions of silas and amara (elena/katherine doppelganger) together.
@matlohn9381 Жыл бұрын
Tyler had every right to be that upset.
@amelianeioko978 Жыл бұрын
@@LovedByYou ok? this isn’t about something as trivial as relationship drama. this is about the principle of being a good person. caroline literally slept with the man who murdered her ex boyfriends mom like-
@bhliss5088 Жыл бұрын
@@amelianeioko978Exactly! I love Klaus, but this whole thing was wrong. Tyler’s anger was justified.
@amelianeioko978 Жыл бұрын
@@LovedByYou yea i would say tyler is a good person. he was driven to his breaking point because of klaus but that was more of a mental break than him being truly evil. damon and rebekah aren’t good people idk why’re ur bringing them up. adds nothing to the conversation
@calmbeast1329 Жыл бұрын
@@LovedByYou yes u idiot he is a good person...tell me how many persons has he hurt? None...he is a saint in my book...if i were him I would kill caroline...
@brunocorner7349 Жыл бұрын
This is the only plot hole I could think of from the whole series, Bonnie not telling Katherine didn't pass through, also team #Caroline #Klaroline ❤️
@hadeekatariq4957 Жыл бұрын
Bonnie can't help by saying Katherine didn't pass through as as she's no longer supernatural. She's a human.
@hadeekatariq4957 Жыл бұрын
Oh wait. But she's a doppelganger too. Which makes her supernatural.
@adeleis7 Жыл бұрын
Katherine is so cringy in s5. Girl was so desperate for attention that she didn't even care if Stefan calls her Elena after she possessed her body. People's standards must be really low if they think she's a good character after these episodes🥴
@senortrekkie8 ай бұрын
Yes my standards are low. 🎉
@coltonparfitt3847 Жыл бұрын
In terms of the doppelganger thing, As much as I like them together, Katherine isn't Stefan's doppelganger match. Each doppelganger is in the same time period as each other so in the 1500's there would have been a "Stefan" somewhere for Kat and in the 1800's there would've been a " Katherine" one for Stefan, we just didn't see them.
@E.M2335 Жыл бұрын
Damon is so codependent. I love seeing him struggle with his demons but he's so needy
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
👁!👁
@E.M2335 Жыл бұрын
@@zaraamm1134 ?
@foodiefiles6537 Жыл бұрын
Why would Bonnie just leave and not tell people that Katherine didn't pass through her? And why didn't Elena snap the witch's neck to stop the whole ritual? It's getting harder and harder to keep watching this season. Nothing that anybody does makes any sense
@E.M2335 Жыл бұрын
They make the clue-cracking characters (Bonnie and Jeremy) disappear so they can leave a gaping hole for their newest weakest plot. You don't invite Nancy Drew when you're staging a big mystery for everyone to solve.
@reesevandyke Жыл бұрын
As TVD fans, we just gotta suffer through Season 5 to get to the good stuff (Season 6) lol
@foodiefiles6537 Жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately
@JessLoveyy Жыл бұрын
That’s why I stopped watching. It was getting too ridiculous
@ihh619 Жыл бұрын
Damon in season 5 is my least favourite. I can get past what he did in season 2 (killing Jeremy) because it was a moment of madness, he wasn't thinking then. Here he had plenty of time to think of how to hurt Elena. It's a toxic relationship
@maryylou Жыл бұрын
So excited for season 6,best one lol
@joshuaross4515 Жыл бұрын
Yo the Stefan hate is crazy 💀 Like why do they hate him so much Also why every time Damon say anything they laugh right away.
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
easy, Damon's a likeable character Stefan not 💁
@emmahosas8616 Жыл бұрын
@@zaraamm1134 or they’re Damon Rick riders
@jackiecheng7499 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being so pathetic you have a problem with people having a good time.
@emmahosas8616 Жыл бұрын
@@jackiecheng7499 the bias is too strong Stefan defends Caroline he’s the worst person on earth but Damon kills Aaron and hurray
@jackiecheng7499 Жыл бұрын
@@emmahosas8616 so effing what if they have a bias? This ain't some objective news report. EVERYONE has biases. And yes people who do worse things can be more likable to different people. But y'all are literally leeches, sucking the fun out of people who are enjoying the show for what THEY like in it.
@namjoonswife3300 Жыл бұрын
When Elena ran to Damon, she could've said it quickly that Katherine is in her body.
@amberaugustine9948 Жыл бұрын
As much as I love soft damon. Evil Damon is just as good too.
@foodiefiles6537 Жыл бұрын
The best!
@amreeeeeen8 ай бұрын
Funny how they don't care or never call out damon killing someone or doing something terrible just because he is their fav character! But do hate when other character does the same shit. I absolutely love damon no offence but this type of stuffs are so weird for real
@jeannguyen3199 Жыл бұрын
So you guys don't care that Aaron died?
@E.M2335 Жыл бұрын
I agree Katlena's heart felt talk with Damon was brutal, but Damon knows nothing she said was incorrect or a lie. He just didn't expect it from Elena and of course it wasn't. It proved to me I've been right all along...Damon truly hasn't really changed, it's only an act to keep the girl and get what he wants. Elena needs to realize (when she gets control of her body back) that she's being used as a humanity anchor by Damon.
@jovieshacarty5811 Жыл бұрын
Nah he deeply loves her
@E.M2335 Жыл бұрын
@@jovieshacarty5811 I don't disagree. I just think he's too dependent on her. To point where it's unhealthy for a dating relationship
@JessLoveyy Жыл бұрын
Exactly. No one should need someone to make them good.
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
Who else here is tired of the original related comments/spams? like it's getting too annoying after the announcement they still asking the same repetitive question- bro why 😭
@possum1888 Жыл бұрын
Tyler and Elena are the worst characters in the show. Tyler want to kill Klaus before his mum was kill + they breakup so he have no right to angry Mum hated Tyler form the season 1
@bobross2251Ай бұрын
Learn grammar
@youtubejosie98 Жыл бұрын
I think Katherine did not pass through Bonnie because at that point she is just a human and only the supernatural pass through Bonnie. So they have no reason to think that anything is wrong because Katherine was never supposed to pass through Bonnie (this is just a theory, but I think that they mess it up that theory later on in the show but I can’t explain it without spoiling future episodes for you guys)
@foodiefiles6537 Жыл бұрын
She's still considered supernatural even in human form because she's a doppelganger. So it makes sense that she would end up going to the other side. Like Elena was supernatural before she even became a vampire (when she killed Alaric and he came back by the ring since it was a supernatural death).
@ILoveRealityTV6 Жыл бұрын
“Where is Bonnie” Unfortunately the writers were racist and would often leave her out of episodes and only bring her in to be the designated witch to save the day..
@foodiefiles6537 Жыл бұрын
Sadly
@jojotherapy008 Жыл бұрын
It only gets crazier from here. I liked Aaron and I’m sad he got killed. I do like the duo of Enzo and Damon, at some point though you’ll see the error of Damon’s ways. As far as Caroline goes, I think there is a justification for her actions. What Klaus does, is what he does, and if she’s no longer with Tyler she can do whatever she wants. Tyler hasn’t shown any desire to be with her, so why does he now care what she does?
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
sure she can do whatever she wants sleeping with the man who killed many as well as her ex's mother(like there's zero respect to Tyler even as her friend?) and her friend's aunt yet when her friend is dating someone she loves caroline dares to disagree bc he has done so many horrible things! yeah logical🤔
@frontlines9356 Жыл бұрын
How dumb can you be honestly? Why does he care all of a sudden? 😂😂dumbest thing I read all day
@Sjfyy_Ай бұрын
@@zaraamm1134 Exactly!!
@spikepsych Жыл бұрын
I mean arent most patreons literally only patreons for tvd ? so shouldnt originals be like an automatic priority? I am honestly not sure how you will even manage to not lose most patreons after you finish tvd so originals seems like your best option
@lizziem033 ай бұрын
My fav characters are Stefan, Elijah, and ENZO!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
I'm totally on Tyler's side in this, like he has all the rights to be mad and Caroline definitely deserved that (I'm talking to you coming out of nowhere Stefan).
@TanishaPrashar Жыл бұрын
Well I am enjoying ur reactions.but the originals is gonna be so much better and I am excitedly waitinggg
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they're gonna be bored watching TO
@TanishaPrashar Жыл бұрын
@@zaraamm1134 I think not bcoz to definitely is better. But, if your taste is high school drama bs then maybe🤷♀️
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
@@TanishaPrashar it's definitely better only bc u think so? lol that bs if hadn't existed there wouldn't be any boring to too. And that was my opinion why so pressed :))
@TanishaPrashar Жыл бұрын
@@zaraamm1134 bro I never said everybody agrees with what I say. Also, vampire diaries is based on high school relationships with supernatural characters and originals is based on more deeper mature and mental health issues which makes it very different and interesting and that's a fact. Never meant to say it's the same for u or anybody else but just my opinion. It's you who are assuming things that I never said and look quite pressed. Chill out and enjoy whatever show u like and leave me alone.
@zaraamm1134 Жыл бұрын
@@TanishaPrashar 😐 what did I assume? pls open ur eyes at first I only said my opinion aren't I able to do so? yet you offended me by saying your taste is bs this is your exact words "but if your taste is high school drama bs.." and now you tell me im pressed and should leave u alone?😂 who's not chilling😭
@tonborges1937 Жыл бұрын
I love katherine soooooooooo much
@MiramosSeries Жыл бұрын
With the Bonnie's thing... It is okay if she doesn't say anything abouth Katherine because Katherine could be just walkling around for another decade before going throuth Bonnie she doesn't have to go as soon as she die, she could be hiding or evoiding Bonnie just because. And Tyler.... Mmm... I mean, it's okay to be mad, but Caroline was struggling wiht Klaus even during her time with Tyler so... she was single Klaus was around, so that's sex. And Tyler was awful with her before, so fuck him. And Damon at this point is very boring to see, he does always the same, go watch the Originals (?)
@scarletgurr Жыл бұрын
Love Jeremiah🙂 also a lot of people disagree but I think Damon= jere and Stefan= conrad maybe a little cuz Jeremiah literally is Damon Salvatore 🤣🤣
@thatonkgau5221 Жыл бұрын
I was completely on Tyler's side Klaus murdered thousands of people Elena's Aunt and Tyler's mom. And Caroline slept with him she slept with the man that killed her Ex boyfriends mom like wtf does she have no morals or standards
@dancerkris9511 ай бұрын
Lol Elena loves a guy who killed her brother and the ONLY reason he didn't stay dead is because Jeremy was wearing the ring that Damon didn't know about.
@hadeekatariq4957 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are right about bonnie and damon, but Stefan is moral, compassionate, heartbroken,a ripper, fun, he's a mixture of everything. He's an amazing character. And yes Tyler is the victim here undoubtedly and Caroline is overrated. The female characters I like are Rebekah and Katherine. Not elena Or Caroline.
@shelbyramirez5897 Жыл бұрын
🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳🎳
@amberaugustine9948 Жыл бұрын
Tyler had every right to be mad at Caroline. Of course Stefan being to a hypocrite and all wouldn’t see the issue here. Damon being a savage is what I love to see. Once again Katherine broke damon’s heart. I hate Katherine so much.
@arnavmishra1454 Жыл бұрын
#Denzo...
@flyingfosk Жыл бұрын
Where is the originals reaction
@dhruthi7286 Жыл бұрын
Ur stefan is just unbearable nowadays
@JessLoveyy Жыл бұрын
Katherine was right about what she said to her breakup with Damon. He shouldn’t depend on anyone to make him “good” and it’s not Elena’s responsibility to. That’s the issue I have with their relationship. -That being said, I’m enjoying Katherine. She’s definitely making this crappy season better. -I can understand Tyler being upset to an extent, but it is what it is. He left her so 🤷🏽♀️ she can be with whoever she wants.
@calmbeast1329 Жыл бұрын
Caroline is the worst girlfriend of all time...no wonder i never liked her like Damon...😂😂 She is like my best friend... attention seeker 😂