Timesuck | The Riverside Killer: America's Forgotten Serial Killer

[@kennethianhusband7433]

Funny side note. Pat Sajak's son is my father's doctor over here in York PA. I don't think I should share this episode with him but I really Want to!!

[@jeremypeterson1573]

Man. You just saved my day. I forgot it was monday and a new episode!. I love to decompress to this. This podcast format, the set and colors, the people getting cummins law'd. You're killin' it. 3 outta 5 Stars.

[@BadMagicProductions]

Thanks for the love Jeremy!

[@shanghei22]

I used to deliver pizza to the ft worth address this dude lived at when he killed his child. So creepy and I bet the current residents have no clue

[@cameronsnyder1246]

Woahh that's wild.

[@JeremyAbear]

How did you find out about the clue?

[@ruvoodoo4862]

​@@JeremyAbearwhat clue??

[@shanghei22]

@@JeremyAbear I was watching a documentary and it showed the apt building and I had a flash back. I used to deliver pizzas in and near downtown Ft worth. I looked up the official Suff vs Texas case and it mentioned the address 1610 Alston ave Ft worth Texas. And bingo it was the exact place I remembered. It’s an old house that was converted into 4 units. It’s in a historic district so all of the houses there have to remain the same.

[@Trashpanda04203]

Some states have laws about this that they have to disclosed what happened in the house before. Least here in Oregon it’s against the law not to tell the new owner.

[@davidglasspool4921]

i’ve been listening to this show for about three years now. It wasn’t until a month ago that I listened all the way to the end of an episode and I’m now having to go back and listen to all of the Timesuck updates and emails and what not. had no idea that was there this whole time.

[@BadMagicProductions]

Now you know!

[@Cierbhal]

I did the same thing. Timesuck universe never ends.

[@davidglasspool4921]

@@BadMagicProductions you say true, i say thankee

[@snidog1]

Bill Suff worked for my grandparents in Lake Elsinore while he was on his killing spree. He used to give me a ride home from school on his motorcycle. When he was arrested, I did the math and figured out that at least a couple times, he gave me a ride home and killed someone in the same day.

[@NobodysGh0sT]

Dude that's gnarly!

[@12-Poler]

WHOOOA😮

[@iceberg227]

I’m having my lunch of chili and chips, I turn on Timesuck to listen to the new episode, 4 minutes in he warns not to eat chili… I’m scared.

[@smhivehadenough]

imagining you screaming this chili recipe over ragtime around the house all week is a hilarious mental image

[@Sarah-re7cg]

Couple things right off the bat: 1. Hell yeah thank you for bringing up womens rights and feminism. I think you should do a Timesuck episode on feminism. I’d suggest tackling it in its waves and within those waves, different main branches and criticisms. I think we’re getting to a point where intersectional feminism (which is in my opinion, the most comprehensive and integral to the feminist movement) is getting more and more widespread attention and coming into popular consciousness. 2. Carol obviously absolutely should have left, but I think it’s worth interrogating why she didn’t (or if that was really even a viable option). I don’t want to turn this into a “she’s a complete victim” vs “she’s a complete monster,” what I mean when I say I’m not sure she was able to is with consideration of: -finances and childcare being tied to this guy -where were she and her children going to go? Were there any women’s shelters available at that time? -was it safe for her and the children to leave? Entitled psychopaths like this guy hunt down, terrorize and stalk their partners and children even if they did successfully “leave” -what level of cultural and religious pressure was there, insisting everything was her fault and that it’s her duty to stay? Remember, it takes a certain number of times to leave an abusive relationship because of the psychological grip abusers have. I also think it’s worth noting how our “default” response to true crime stories and the people involved is informed by the framework of the court system’s decisions. Meaning, we’re forced into a binary “guilty” or “not guilty” in court, so the way we interpret and judge the “case” is also through that binary lens. That being said, yeah, I just hope this doesn’t turn into “why didn’t the mom do anything?” when it should be “why is this dad doing this in the first place?” But I also don’t want to take complete agency away from Carol in the situation. These conversations are incredibly hard to navigate.

[@DanielHughes-rf2yf]

I was gonna read this... but then I remembered I have better things to do with my life.

[@BadMagicProductions]

I love this thought-provoking comment, Sarah! Yes - it's complicated in situations where someone like Carol is not the abuser. She's a victim of abuse herself. How much responsibility does a parent bear in a situation where they are not protecting their child, but also, their child is being abused by the same person that is abusing them? It's so easy for me to judge, since I'm not in that situation and also, a 6'1" 235 pound man with the ability to financially provide for not only myself but also my kids. It would be much easier for me to stand up to Bill than it would be for Carol to do so. But also... is allowing your infant to be slowly beaten to death over the period of a few months excusable in any circumstance outside of actual imprisonment? (I'm thinking of an extreme situation such as a mother being kept in a concentration camp). It's all so tricky. I feel like Carol should not be totally absolved for her lack of intervention, but also, I feel terrible for her as well. It's so complex. What is not complex is judging Bill himself. He is the clear monster in all of this. Okay - I'm rambling now. Thank you for commenting!

[@glizzzerd]

I love you Dan. I work a shitty office job right now and your podcast is the only thing that keeps me sane.

[@theLOREof84]

Everyone around me tries to get me to listen to crime podcasts all the time when I bring up time suck, my answer is always the same, "I would, but Dan makes these stories tolerable and fortunately/unfortunately kind of funny. So no, but thank you and you should listen to TimeSuck..." I've said it before and I'll say it again, thank you for making it a little easier to be in the know with these stories. No one does it like you. 3 out 5 stars, don't you dare change a thing! 😊

[@RecluseBootsy]

*looks at my chili bowl* "I've come too far to go back now."

[@NeurologicalTreat]

I grew up just down the road from there and lived in Riverside during college while he was active. Excited to give this a listen!

[@rydz656]

How entitled of you.

[@SteveSpencer-k4f]

​@@rydz656 Excuse me? If you knew the school you'd understand the sarcasm.

[@andrewbegley6754]

Timesuck and chili...best combo ever?

[@SteveSpencer-k4f]

I lived in Riverside County, and despite Dan's jokes, it is one of the deepest, darkest and dirtiest fissures on Hells a-hole. Truly not a nice, beautiful or welcoming place, at least when I lived there, some 35-40 years ago.

[@BeefSkellington]

I shattered my spleen last summer, it was for a motorcycle wreck. Something like that happening to an infant is unthinkable.

[@rachael9999]

I lived in and around Riverside for many years. Can confirm re: orange eating zombie demons. 😂 seriously, I actually haven't heard of the Riverside killer, and I'm a true crime enthusiast of sorts. Any of us locals know it is super haunted here. Sad to know that this awful individual added to the lost wandering souls.

[@stevied5459]

Yay I needed this today ❤️❤️❤️ thank you so much for what you do man.

[@ChIGuY-town22_]

Grew up by Gacey, a friend lived across the street. In america there are currently around fifty serial killers currently on the loose...

[@R8ERN8TION52]

As someone who grew up in riverside county and currently works by UCR in riverside I can confirm it is hell and a shit hole. But that shit hole is my home.

[@12-Poler]

Level 4 demon zombies, I thought Daybell😂😂😂 That was great!🤣🤣

[@ohighojones4029]

Idk what I would do without timesuck.

[@cameronsnyder1246]

The 1st Gracie Jiu-jitsu gym in America was in Torrance California too.

[@Coloradobadbro]

What’s up with all the whack jobs from California?! Dan, you’ve become my favorite true crime detective, and I like how you tie in a lot of the past episodes references in each new one, very funny stuff with the very dark material. Killing it bro!

[@RecluseBootsy]

We're raised a little different. 😀

[@Coloradobadbro]

@@RecluseBootsy ha fair enough. I love cali, beautiful place. I thought it was a crazy factoid about the percentage of people who commit grisly murders that come from there. Never knew that. Is it partly that Wild West mentality perchance?

[@12-Poler]

@@ColoradobadbroWhack-uh-DOODLES! 🤣🤷‍♀️

[@DM-kl4em]

"threw it like a frisbee" I feel bad for laughing at that one.

[@BadMagicProductions]

A real visual

[@MadGrubble]

1:46:27 ❤You got me Dan. I believed the wheel of fortune thing. I paused the episode to yell at my phone “wtf does Wheel Of Fortune have to do with how you’re murdering women and helpless little babies!? You rancid dripping pustule!!!” Then I resumed the episode and um… I might owe my neighbor an uncomfortable apology/explanation the next time I run into her 😅

[@davidglasspool4921]

he got me when he told me Casey Anthony was currently working in childcare

[@MadGrubble]

@@davidglasspool4921 lol, ya that def would have freaked me out for a second too 🤣

[@stevensonjc21]

His little lies are SO GOOD. If you guys haven’t listened to the CLEAVELAND kidnapper Ariel Castro episode , you NEED TO ASAP

[@countdankula420_]

“WHAT CAN I SAY…. HIS CHILI IS THE TITTS!”

[@mikey2time484]

Just listened to your Randy Kraft episode.. got my sub brother. Love the humor it breaks up the darkness. Would be dope if you did a episode on Robert Berdella the kansas city butcher Edit. Yeah i did 2 years in new york for attempted rob 2nd. And yeah.. the officers tell us whos a pedo and whos not lol they not supposed to bc these prisons actually protect pedos.. if you attack one.. get this, they charge you with a hate crime. What...? Yeah so most people dont bother bc we just wanna do time n go home. This system is fcked

[@clownemoji_vi]

there is an episode about berdella in case you havent found it yet

[@martinoberman4685]

Regarding the light bulb..... maybe he was a huge Adam's Family fan stuck the bulb in his mouth it didn't work. Then ironically another dull light bulb went off in his head and.....

[@ericjacobs5315]

And here we go!

[@yickyhite1725]

Damnit, I wanted to be the first comment. :/

[@jonathanulrich4905]

He killed a child and got out of prison? Yay justice system!

[@ScreamingEagle101st]

Yes ! Back to true crime ❤

[@Bad_Chariot]

like the Pat Sajack?

[@stevensonjc21]

OH COOL! Free KNIFE!!! - I am fucking dead. Clearly used to make his award winning chili. CLEARLY

[@dominictrujillo5323]

As a cook/chef of 35+ years who has made and sold oceans of chile, or chili(😖), that monster should have gotten the death penalty for making chili with mayonnaise!!🤢🤢

[@k20z3keith7]

Luckily I ate my chili before I started the show. But, that's just showbiz!

[@lerink4008]

you should do a suck on The Code of Hammurabi - I just learned about it a few hours ago.

[@thatoneguybrian2365]

Anyone transcribe the chili recipe? Ive been looking for a good one

[@VioletRing77]

I came to comments to see if anyone had transcribed/made it yet... Disappointed no one has. Give me an hour and I'll comment the recipe.

[@VioletRing77]

William Suff Riverside Killer Chili ½lb lean ground beef ¼lb stew beef, cut into ½ bite sized pieces ¼lb shredded beef, cut into ½ bite sized pieces ¼lb ribeye steak, cut into ½ bite sized pieces Maybe also 1 human breast 16 oz tomato puree ¼c sweet pickle relish 2 tablespoons malt vinegar 2 tablespoons lemon juice ½c Budweiser beer, flat ¼c hickory smoked bbq sauce ¼c Hunt's ketchup 4 tablespoons Best Foods real mayonnaise 2 tablespoons French's mustard 6 tablespoons Country Crock tub butter 2 packages Lawry's Chili Mix Seasoning 1 large bag Fritos corn chips 1 small green bell pepper, chopped 1 small stewing onion, diced ½c green olives with pimientos, quartered 8 large fresh mushrooms, sliced and quartered 1 large jalapeno pepper, diced 3 Bay leaves 2c sharp cheddar cheese, shredded 2 tablespoons chili powder 1 tablespoon corn starch 2 teaspoons salt 1 teaspoon black pepper 1 teaspoon dried minced onion 1 teaspoon oregano 1 tablespoon hickory smoked salt 1 tablespoon garlic salt 1 tablespoon paprika

[@VioletRing77]

In a large skillet, cook the ground beef thoroughly, then pour off and discard grease. Add one half of the bell peppers, stewing onions and mushrooms, plus one tablespoon malt vinegar, 2 tablespoons butter, 1 tablespoon chili powder, one teaspoon salt, and one package chili mix seasoning. Cook 10 minutes over medium heat, stirring occasionally. Pour juices into a saucepan after spooning the meat and veggies into a 2 quart crock pot set to low heat. Place the saucepan juices, covered, over low heat to simmer. Next cook the ribeye, shredded beef, stew beef, and maybe a human breast in the skillet, then discard the grease. Then follow the above directions to cook the second half of the above ingredients with the meat. Again, pour the juices into the saucepan to simmer and the solids into the crock pot. To the simmering saucepan add the pickle relish, garlic, salt, hickory smoked salt, lemon juice, minced onion, cornstarch and oregano. Bring the heat up to medium, stirring until the mixture begins to boil, then add the mixture to the crock pot. To the ingredients in the crock pot, stir in the flat beer, tomato puree, mayonnaise, barbecue sauce, ketchup, mustard, jalapeno pepper, black pepper, bay leaves, two cups crushed Fritos, remaining butter and one cup shredded cheese. Cover and let cook on medium for 2 hours, or on low for a minimum of 15 hours, stirring occasionally. When through cooking, locate and discard bay leaves. Then pour remaining cheese over top chili, cover and let's sit 10 minutes with the heat off, allowing the cheese to melt completely. Serve hot with paprika sprinkled over the top of each serving, and put remaining Fritos in a side dish for dipping. Salt and pepper to taste. *Disclaimer: I used Sir Mushmouth's reading along with a recipe I found online to put this together.

[@thatoneguybrian2365]

You have won my heart. I will be making this sometime this week. I'll let ya know how it goes

[@AprilStarr29]

Maybe his dad didn't just leave, maybe he went home to change his clothes and got killed?! Maybe they should have reported him missing!

[@hensley1175]

Just here to feed the algorithm gods!!

[@Castaway67]

You're early today! 3/5. Keep this shit up!

[@goldenglowable]

Where does “ Hail Lucefina” come from?

[@jackwilson8870]

New here from Whitney's podcast, did I miss something about Pat Sayjak? Was he in the #metoo round up or something I missed? Is there a reason we use Pat Sayjak?

[@Bit_of_Sunshine]

I gotta stop listening to you in the gym. I damn near kill myself when I drop my weights because you get me laughing so hard. Thank you for the information with the chaos. It turns my fascination with the darkness a bit lighter. #twinflame #cultcultcult

[@jackiestahl34]

Not Pat Sayjack😂😂😂😂😂 Not sure if i spelled that correctly

[@augustwilliams3556]

Ed Grimley comes to mind

[@jdmartin2984]

America is too easy on these killers

[@redmustangredmustang]

They found another murder of his through DNA and he confessed. 1986 murder of Cathy Small age 19. This announcement happened today on August 13, 2024.

[@Sarah-re7cg]

Cheers to the person who wrote in and to you Dan for reading it. On the point about people getting sucked into incel bullshit and coming across sympathetic views towards incel attitudes, this is why I really wish more comedians were careful with what they “joke” about. I keep seeing this rash of whiny comedians going headfirst into this annoying as fuck shock jock rampage on stage trying to dress it up as some kind of nebulous “freedom of speech” shit which is an insult to the likes of comedians like George Carlin. Theyre not “bold” or “brave” for echoing sentiments that you’ll hear on incel forums, they’re just making society more dangerous for everyone.

[@jamiloy7769]

I like Katt Williams 😂

[@zionnichols7710]

George carlin wasn't brave he was a asshole

[@JeremyAbear]

I listen to all videos at 2X playback speed. Dan you talk quickly normally but damn at double the speed i gotta seriously focus

[@lerink4008]

I do 1.75

[@TravisChenZhen]

Hail Nimrod! (Sorry I'm late)

[@BadMagicProductions]

Hail Nimrod!

[@bigredpacheco-RedDawg]

Great content Dan bro fuck yea bro!🎯👌😆😂😂😩💯

[@wolfbones666]

Wait, which Riverside? We got like three of them. edit: Damn it!

[@kerrie2222]

Less than an hour in and I HATE this guy. Adult on adult crime is awful but adults make decisions. It's really difficult to listen about children in these situations. I will never understand it.

[@headshothendo]

California was beautiful in the 1800s, except the 11 foot grizzly bears year round that dont hibernate, and the ridiculous amount of rattlesnakes.

[@thedesolateone8260]

Monday Meat 🍖 Sack Madness. Hail Lucifina 🤘🤟

[@frankyquilavafireblast895]

I wasn’t expecting to be laughing so much near the end, ragtime music in fact, makes everything worst; that sarcasm for the record. Also, I agree if you have the stuff, just use it, be safe, etc. etc. I will never judge anyone for hiring, or being a sex worker.

[@BadMagicProductions]

😂😂😂

[@davidbrogan-f7p]

should do a timesuck on Keith Raniere

[@TheGoldenCrime]

OK how in the FUCK have you not drawn up a podcast about micheal mf mcdonald?? Praise NIMROD

[@Gibby8097]

Oh Californians, you so crazy!

[@ohighojones4029]

Hail nimrod!

[@juniorred4011]

❤

[@nataliewood8930]

You forgot Dan most best babysitter's that are the best are gay or trans.

[@zackbourgault6073]

Ah come on man, as a pervious avid fisher your should know its pronounced crop-ie instead of crappy.

[@nabrog2674]

Weeeeeeeeeee!!

[@rahhclipper131]

I emailed u guys about this story a few times. But I guess I’m too native and not too literate for u white ppl

[@BadMagicProductions]

Thanks for the suggestion! Glad we’re were able to cover the topic. 🤙