‘Mystery of the Manor Moat’ (Llancaiach, South Wales) | Series 18 Episode 9 | Time Team

[@martinscholes2023]

Proof that life is all about the journey, and not necessarily the destination! Loved this one. If I had a pound for every time I hear “Stewart has a theory……” 😂

[@joemcknight6304]

"Stewart has a theory" is my favorite soundbite from the series!

[@Charlie.M.Green1905]

@@joemcknight6304 make it a drinking game 😂

[@Veronica-lw1tf]

beautiful how archaeology has it's well deserved importance to the people, everythig yet so old but still so well documented. I love the fact that the owner wants to thell the history to the children who visit the site and learn about their own history. It means that the history has a valuable importance and kids will keep going with it

[@user-kt3zv1cm5j]

The shots of the concerned gardeners 😂 i do love the sense of humour on time team. never a moment wasted, even in an episode where almost nothing is found 💗

[@BladeRunner21577]

But they did, theyre just not drawing any conclusions from what they found to take account of the evidences that they found.

[@mchristiansen137]

Time Team has gotten me through the pandemic lock downs and everything closing. Since I do not watch television, I would lay here at night and watch a show or two. It is just amazing history of the whole U.K. from prehistoric to medieval times. I did try the new time team, but it is not the same energy.

[@deadmanjones]

An episode that entirely encapsulates what I love about Time Team and why I Patreon. Fascinating and entertaining to see how difficult it is to prove you've found nothing, and yet nothing being built is exactly what saved that one bit of bronze age pot. In its final series TT claimed some sort of monumental discovery every episode with very little credibility, but it's the "almost enough evidence to prove nothing was happening" that we loved. You don't have to rewrite the history books, you just need to show us archaeology in action. The more frustrated the archaeologists the happier the viewers are.

[@54mgtf22]

Aah, Time Team. My happy place.

[@texasrose455km]

Finally! Vague memories of this episode have been knocking around in my head for ages and I could not find it. Now I know. thank!

[@texasrose455km]

@@NeungView I know, but I couldn't remember the title or the location of the dig.

[@matt_cummins28]

@@NeungView if you only found the channel recently - like me - you won't know that or, frankly, care. It was great fun. Sorry you found it disappointing but at least it gave you the chance to type a comment here. That's nice, eh?

[@karlkarlos3545]

@@matt_cummins28 And if you found this channel years ago - like me- you would have noticed that they upload the same old videos at least three times (And think nobody will notice. Lol).

[@kevinjohnbetts]

@@karlkarlos3545 They don't call them 'classics' for nothing! 😁

[@karlkarlos3545]

@@kevinjohnbetts I don't think repetition is the definition of 'classics'.

[@johnparnham5945]

This proves that finding very little or nothing still tells a story and changes misconceptions. They have solved the mystery of the supposed moat and found the true story of the place that they're in.

[@matt_cummins28]

Great fun. Poor Faye and Raksha... I did feel sorry for them. Thank you.

[@stephenhammond6962]

Best video! Due to finding “nothing much” And Tony being Tony “Find something small and sexy” “I’ll be in the next scene” 😂

[@kiwi_kirsch]

i had no idea how entertaining 47minutes of almost fruitless archaeology can be. "the cleanest people of wales" :D

[@fionaanderson5796]

Yeah, it's really odd that there's almost no rubbish found even for the years since the house was built. At the very least there should be stuff from the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. There are large areas where they were unable to explore - that building to the south and the large gravel courtyard, for instance, and there was only that small pit out the back.

[@annieedstam2668]

​@@fionaanderson5796😅

[@caroleminke6116]

So nice not having to do anything at all while they exhaust themselves for our entertainment

[@Sandra-Gibora]

Spoiler alert 😮

[@robertpickles1858]

There are bronze age burials mounds in nearby Machen, we had a farm about a mile away from this dig on Gelligaer mountain there are various bronze age mounds and standing stones

[@FanFicnic]

I love the owners enthusiasm.

[@jamesrivis620]

Totally amazing...loved every frustrating second !!!

[@jmc7034]

Never saw this episode. Ta for uploading it❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@bujin1977]

15:30 This is a perfect example of why there's such a stink in Wales about people coming in and changing the place names because "they can't pronounce the Welsh". The place names contain the history of a location, or point to old myths and legends about the place. For example, changing Llyn Bochlwyd in Snowdonia to "Lake Australia" because "it looks a bit like Australia" is abhorrent. If the name is changed, the history is lost. Sir Tony Robinson, in this episode, proves that the only reason people "can't pronounce the Welsh" is because of laziness on their part. Llancaiach Fawr is not an easy word to pronounce, yet he does so excellently here. All it takes is (a) realising that Welsh is *not* a dialect of English, (b) asking a Welsh person how to pronounce the word, and (c) a bit of practice and effort.

[@Rover200Power]

Lake Australia is a stupid name, even if the place was in England. I'd rather fail at pronouncing something Welsh than have a new name given to it in English which has no meaning.

[@Stettafire]

It's also very colonial and insulting to the local people who do actually speak the language. Renaming things to please the English just pushes us out

[@janinecreager9418]

I will be traveling here with some friends that live in Wales next month. I really want to pronounce the name of the manor correctly, but as an American, I’m struggling. Can someone give me a phonetic spelling of it here in the comments? I hear him say it, but I can’t figure it out for myself. I don’t want to look like a stupid American! Ha ha.

[@bujin1977]

@@janinecreager9418 First thing you need is to know how to pronounce the "LL" sound, which is very tricky to describe, but this is a good video to explain it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/noKleIKYbM6EkJI&ab_channel=GwynethAngharad Next, the "CH" at the end is pronounced much like the "CH" in a Scottish "Loch" (not quite a KH sound, but that will get you close). Once you have those worked out, the rest of it is pretty easy. LLan - there's that LL sound, the rest of it rhymes with "can" (or the way Gwyneth says the start of "Llanberis" in the above video) Cai - the C is a hard C, more like a K and the rest of it rhymes with "eye" Ach - the A is again like the A in "can", and there's that CH sound Word emphasis in Welsh is almost always on the second to last syllable in multi-syllable words, so on the "cai" part in this case. llan-CAI-ach. Hope this helps, and hasn't made things even worse for you! 🤣 Croeso i Gymru!

[@janinecreager9418]

@@bujin1977 thank you so much for taking the time to do this! I have a week before I leave on my trip. Plenty of time to practice and be ready. 😂

[@fabricdragon]

i suspect the family either wasnt actually that old... or needed to prove/shore up the idea that they were without proof. so yeah, they built a house that looked OLD... that looked like what they thought would look as though it had been there for ages... and they built it where there was some ancient evidence of something, maybe the stories of that ancient hero crossing a ford near here... because they needed to make it look like "they have always been here" apparently some things never do change

[@fionaanderson5796]

The house is "old fashioned", not "looks like it's been here for centuries". The style is still very much Tudor. It would be more like if you built a 1980s style house now, it won't look Victorian. It would have been good if they'd looked more closely at the house itself instead of just getting a dendro date. The overall impression is mid 1500s, but there are signs that the house was renovated early in it's history. The windows look like they've been retrofitted and don't quite match the rest.

[@Knights.of.Ni.]

With a house that old you'd think there would be loads around it horse stables, barns, sheds, servants homes

[@fionaanderson5796]

And a midden. Even if it was only used occasionally, like a holiday house or a hunting lodge, there should be something, and there's not.

[@carolinecleaveley-q1r]

Hi Aaron. on british tv we have a show called time team of which i am a patreon subscriber. Last year they did a programme from Modbury in Devon including the surviving member of the Stetson family from that town, who.s family moved over to the states and developed the Stetson hat you probably have one of . Caroline from the uk.

[@transmaster]

I have all of these Episodes from when they first Aired.

[@tgbluewolf]

...I mean, at least it wasn't Tony's dreaded cattle enclosure!

[@patricktracey7424]

tony has a daunting task trying to make archaeologists seem interesting.

[@forthwithtx5852]

Is it possible that the attic timbers are not original to the house? Perhaps a fire and were replaced at some point, which might skew the dating of the manor.

[@georgedorn1022]

Possible but unlikely I would think. If there had been a significant fire there would probably be other signs and, stylistically, the building isn't that much older than the timbers, archaeologically/historically speaking.

[@donaldwatson7698]

A nice thought, but I'm guessing not. As we've seen on other Time Teams, there's usually a paper trail of letters and expense books, something to which the museum or local archeologists would have access. Had there been a fire, there likely would be a record of expenses paid to those who made the repairs or those who sold goods for repairs. But I do wonder if the attic was the only spot they took core samples. They've taken them from fireplaces before.

[@fionaanderson5796]

I wondered the same. I don't think the stone window frames are original. I think some remodeling has occurred, possibly after the restoration. Although that does not fit with 1550 for the roof timbers.

[@MrSnead-vp1ll]

I love these reruns however I do feel the need to also support the newer time team that's trying hard. I know it's not the same but however could it be.

[@theofficialdiamondlou2418]

So @ 19:04 looking at the aerial shot. There’s a square pattern in the field exactly SE of the manor .. that almost fits inside of the “moat” . Also a weird diamond shape SW of the square . 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@Matt-nk2tp]

Can we have the king of bling episode from Prittlewell, Essex. I want to show my children some local history but cannot find the episode anywhere!

[@lynnedwards7462]

The Prittlewell programme's one of the specials, not one of the regular series.

[@Matt-nk2tp]

@@lynnedwards7462 ahh ok are the specials not uploaded on this channel then?

[@lynnedwards7462]

@@Matt-nk2tp No. Hopefully, that will be, "Not yet!"

[@420darthbong]

I am descendant of Pritchards and have Welsh dna, also scott/dane on that side. This was very interesting for me.

[@jlselc]

Without seeing the end of this episode...I do know that in the period between the bronze age and late midevil much of England was wooded. Could that have been the cause of the lack of finds.

[@joshschneider9766]

It's plausible.

[@donaldwatson7698]

What they were missing was probably under the car park. 😉 I do wonder, with the new tech that the geophys folks have for the new shows, if it could look deeper than the ridge-and-furrow plowing that was so hampering the team on this shoot.

[@RatelHBadger]

Please not another cattle enclosure... Oh Tony, don't you know by now, the mundane is the most interesting.

[@kevschorr6875]

Although I pass Llancaiach Fawr quite regularly I speak with no archaeological talent or knowledge. But, it doesn't take Sherlock to consider the Time Team didn't mention once how long it would've taken to build. I'd take a guess at hundreds of skilled men and hundreds of labourers needed to build a house that size. Built 1550 (ish) and coins found nearby would suggest, to me anyway, that where they found the coins was where the builders etc lived. Anyone got a better theory?

[@georgedorn1022]

It is an odd site based on the artefacts recovered. Aside from the Bronze Age sherd, the earliest pottery found was from the 18th century yet we know that the house is 150+ years older. Where is the 16th and 17th century pottery? The multitude of craftspeople/labourers and subsequent occupation of the site should have left some evidence. There are medieval coins but these are mostly worn and/or broken so must have been in circulation for some time before ending up in the ground.

[@fionaanderson5796]

@@georgedorn1022 yes, the lack of any sign of occupation - pottery, middens, out buildings from the C16-17 is very odd, to say the least.

[@benediktmorak4409]

i wonder when i will find Series 1,Episode 1. Is there such on youtube?

[@philipr1567]

Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZqcfKyHaK2Ho68

[@desbelfastireland9982]

THANK YOU.. DES CREAN,, BELFAST ,, IRELAND

[@piripi40]

Ha ha, John is my favourite

[@promiscuous5761]

Thank you.

[@Shaden0040]

Stewart's dream is to Geophys all of the UK

[@Dave-dx4lu]

For me this is incredible. My family name on my dads side is Pritchard. Not sure how long we've been in wales but we are in mid wales. Not sure if we are related to families in south wales though

[@TermiteUSA]

"Geophysical Phlegm", what a description.

[@valswhitewolf6611]

Being part Welsh always love ut when your in my great great great grand ma's homeland.

[@robertgriffiths6350]

ah, the lovely Faye.....

[@Outlier777]

Every single time.

[@gmg9010]

As an American when I hear 19th century I think wow that’s old but to a Brit not at all

[@Jonny5a]

Makes sense in a way, in the 1800s the British empire was at its peak so everything was made to make an impression, in America you were still reaching for the pacific and building anything you could as fast as you could to keep up with that expansion. One lasted better by design

[@gmg9010]

@@Jonny5a yeah and I live in more specifically North Dakota which became a state in 1889

[@Jonny5a]

@@gmg9010 often wondered about the Dakota's, were they founded separately or split up for some reason? I'm not good with American dates is 1889 too late for civil war?

[@gmg9010]

@@Jonny5a well North Dakota and South Dakota used to be in the Louisiana purchase and then we became the Dakota Territory then on November 2 1889 we both became separate states South Dakota becoming the 40th and North Dakota becoming the 39th and yes this would of been way after the civil war which happened 1861 to 1865

[@aaronmonette7849]

@@gmg9010 Actually only western North Dakota was part of the Louisiana Purchase the eastern part was added on after the conclusion of the War of 1812 as it was territory disputed by America and Great Britain. But yeah ND became a state in 1889 and thinly settled by European Americans until after 1889, but there are amazing archeological and paleontological sites. Excavations of Indian village sites North and Southwest of Bismarck show that people have continually lived in this state since the 1100s.

[@jcortese3300]

I think this is a nice result -- the land is pure Welsh. From the Bronze age to the time the manor was built, it was only Welsh and appears to have escaped the tumult following 1282.

[@markgarin6355]

Just can't figure their 'moat-ive'.. fish pond? Besides, apparently it didn't take much to make anyone an expert and officially designate anything... anything.

[@maggpiprime954]

I keep getting distracted by half-assed story ideas I could possibly write, but the research I'd need to do for it to be any good would dwarf the story itself. 😩

[@johnbacon1854]

Can you imagine Mick being called to the prehestoric finds..... he would of been dancing a jig and smiling from ear to ear.

[@Billio68]

It ended up not being anything and the home not being old like said

[@THINKincessantly]

Anyone know the weed at 32:12? 🌿

[@brianknowles7130]

More like an episode of Time Team I like. at least the narration keeps it interesting.

[@bosse641]

The old series are so much better than those being made now, imo. Love the old stuff.

[@brianknowles7130]

@@bosse641 Agreed. Can only hope that the makers of the new series read this eh. Although I will watch any new episodes, I find them quite drab & dreary.

[@jimkillip4156]

This episode is already on their channel, it was posted 2 years ago.

[@private15]

How disappointing. I have watched it already. I was looking for something new.

[@jimkillip4156]

@@private15 Me too.

[@matschmoon399]

How do you expect to watch new episodes, when the thumbnail already tells you the opposite?

[@jlaakso1706]

@Neil Deep They are, but I don't think they'll be showing on the "classics" channel

[@RosHaywood]

It's a remastering of an old episode

[@CartoonHistory]

45:09 hahahahaha 😅

[@toomanyopinions8353]

How truly odd.

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

first aired 3 April 2011

[@MikeWilliams-yp9kl]

Was the geo fiz machine working properly, I tried to date the dead horse ,but it said nay .

[@SL-sd3sg]

I wish you would take the labels out of the seed trays..my pet hate (labels)😜. Very interesting episode tho.

[@WmAnnis]

Ha! "Last ditch effort!"

[@robertbowers9856]

"Last Ditch" attempt, was that a pun?

[@daveseddon5227]

First aired 3rd April 2011 - UK

[@simoncordingley3122]

What's with all the adverts interrupting the show? Not happy, Jan! :(

[@OldDunollieman]

Thank God the real Time Team episodes are still here much better than the so called "New" Time Team snorefest.

[@AmblingMan]

got distracted be Helen's shirt's cameleon like abilities to blend in with whoever she's talking to :D

[@vsznry]

I think some fictional stuff was filmed at that house.

[@THINKincessantly]

Edward VI house

[@patdaveydrums]

"last ditch attempt"

[@michaelpoole7264]

🐨🐰🐰

[@stephenhammond6962]

“baldrick!”

[@anotherbrickoutthewall9237]

Ohhh arrre Tony what a let down! Stone the crows no good archeology! Nice bit of pot tho

[@SceneArtisan]

I admit, when I think of a moat, I think of: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZuypYmvaNlqY7M

[@cjhawk9308]

should have gone digging 4.34 miles, 346 degrees north of there.

[@richardsanchez5444]

How the hell is Llancaich pronounced klan kaich?? The two L's at the beginning are the same as the ch at the end. Welsh what a language.

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

Got me try pronouncing Hawaiian 😂

[@dancollinssr2117]

His Name is Alfred Coates. He went to the US to teach in 1969. He was a headmaster in Rutland. His area of expertise was History. He was a damn good teacher! Has he been consulted on the dig?

[@marcelovolcato8892]

That was a funny episode, but with almost no archeology. Maybe the people who lived there were poets, all they did was a bunch of poems...

[@bobomac8330]

Didn't dig up the carpark? Next series

[@richardlighthill3228]

Why build a manor there? Because it is flat, cleared, plowed land that could raise cattle, hay, wheat, barley, oats! It is a field for crops, plain and simple! Admit it!

[@divaden47]

I wonder why they are wearing hard hats over a trench that must be all of 8" deep.......

[@kevinjamesparr552]

Cn tell you it was only a farm and only a myth that King Charles visited .You will find nothing there I assure you. Sir Kevin Parr Bt

[@s1nb4d59]

Ive seen this episode repeated alot recently.

[@caroleminke6116]

Agatha Christie’s only child Rosamund married a Pritchard who died in WWII so they inherited this pile & her only child Mathew ended up with this as well as most of his Nima’s estate & then his only cousin Jack died childless… guess who got the original inheritance from the wealthy American side that married into Agatha’s mother’s family? She said he’s the one who got the silver spoon!

[@pwimbledon]

There was no evidence to suggest the Bronze Age features were visible in the 1500’s. They just plucked that out of their bums. It would have been a non-descript smudge in the dirt, just like it is now.

[@georgedorn1022]

They may well have been visible, depending on when, and how intensively, ploughing of the field began. This could have been as late as the post-medieval to early modern periods. Bronze Age field boundaries are still visible in certain areas, Dartmoor for example, where no subsequent activity has taken place - these earthworks can survive for long periods of time if left undisturbed. The report actually states, however, that the Bronze Age pottery was actually from a disturbed deposit and the ditches were not securely dated so your bum-plucking theory may not be too far off the mark ;)

[@pwimbledon]

​@@georgedorn1022 ​ They may well have been, but there was no evidence to suggest that. We talking about quite a highly populated area of southern Wales, which would have been cultivated for millennia. It would have been ridge and furrow from very early on.

[@orwellboy1958]

There's no evidence that they weren't visible, either.

[@greenfire6924]

Another example of the unscientific assumptions of most archaeologist. A coin or other object found in dirt doesn't doesn't date it's drop into the dirt. That object could be hundreds of years old before it was dropped. Lame Stream archaeologists are like our loveable dogs. Dogs have no yesterday and no tomorrow, they only live in the moment. The most reliable method to date the past is a combination of archaeology, linguistics and DNA. Unfortunately, even that combination leaves questions.

[@elliotthughes2382]

Is it me or does Stewart talk utter rubbish 99.999% of the time? 😂

[@souloftheteacher9427]

I'm afraid it's you.

[@elliotthughes2382]

@@souloftheteacher9427 I think you need to rewatch a lot of these episodes. The amount of times he comes up with random shit, and then as soon as someone digs they are like "yea... No, not even close" 😂

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

Is that the same as when they dig an find nothing 😊

[@elliotthughes2382]

@@PaulMahon-w2b no, because they don't state anything like it's fact until they have dug it and can prove it. Stewart at times conjures elaborate things based on literally nothing.

[@malcolmformosa1772]

My 4 Girls and also me we all like watching the Time Team program we can't get enough of it, now our 22nd times Great Grandfather was King Edward l Longshank. 🥇🇦🇺🦘⚜️👑⚜️

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

Thank you.