RANKING The BEST LEGENDS In Apex Legends Season 23! (Tier List)

[@TimProVision]

What do you think of the support class of legends in season 23 of Apex Legends? Don't forget to hit the like button and hop in the discord and say hello! Additional thanks to my channel members as well Hope we all have a GREAT Season & Holiday as they approach! *Edit: Some of you need to understand these tier lists are just a baseline and they are purely my thoughts on the meta from my 5-6K hours in game. There is no right or wrong way of ranking legends. Its completely up to the player to make the most of the legends and really every legend has viability in Apex. Just because some legend is one tier lower or higher, doesn't give you the right to insult me or anyone else in the comments.*

[@pascalakcan4613]

I have to say i like the way you deliver your legend tier Lists. That said i do disagree with a lot of the placements. Gibby, rev, wraith, ash, Loba and newcastle, wattson I would have placed differently. Most of them by 2 tiers so i think personally this is not an accurate List. Despite that i like your videos and keep it up.

[@TimProVision]

Thanks or the input. Rankings are pretty opinionated so there isn't really a right or wrong answer

[@JT-km6th]

Newcastle not being god tier makes me question if you’re playing ranked.

[@TimProVision]

Well considering the entire videos footage was in ranked lol

[@Briiiannn02]

@@TimProVisionfr 🤣

[@MoneyMindset500]

I agree Newcastle should be god tier for sure. Bro’s making gameleap’s tier list look good

[@tee-boppin_em8147]

True!! His quick Rez perk is insane! Especially if you have a lifeline, In Ranked game played today Me an a Lifeline literally rezd each other like 8 times before dieing

[@armonix5745]

New castle is not god tier ranked and idk why everyone acts like anyone just picks up new castle and is good lmao 98% of new castle don’t know what they are doing and are just goat meat shields lol new castle has the highest skill cap in the game

[@Professor_Finesser]

Crypto’s EMP NOT DESTROYING Gibby/Lifeline Ult is incredibly stupid. Idk why that was changed that’s the entire point of the EMP

[@TimProVision]

It was already a really niche counter, seems weird to remove it. Probably a strictly a pro play decision

[@aepheixa]

@@TimProVision NICHE counter? It's like one of three counters to them

[@Ravager-u2v]

1. Gibby's ult is constantly sending mortars, why woud it do anything when its a single flash of a EMP???? 2. Lifelines Ult is more similar to Gibby's bubble, which also doesn't get destroyed by crypto drone, thus it is correlated

[@Professor_Finesser]

@@Ravager-u2v my apologies gibby bubble and lifeline ult

[@ghernandez909909]

And also Lifeline and Newcastle are literally God tier that’s all I have to say

[@lukedent]

@@ghernandez909909 lifeline, and Newcastle in my opinion, was always goated. Glad they’re getting love now tho lifeline mains deserves the buff.

[@shkrsimpson44]

Yea they're literally ridiculous now

[@aperson6382]

So much so she's probably going to be nerfed into the ground soon.

[@tolvhed]

Some thing you haven’t considered is how well maggie actually counters gibby and life line as she can not only drill through the shield but also cover massive peaks through the shield to make your team be able to push so much easier and also throwing her ball inside the LL halo is so much fun seeing them bounce around she’s Double S fs

[@y_conflict2930]

Newcastle is easily god tier for both ranked and pubs without question. He has arguably the best revive in the game , his mobile shield makes him a menace with shotguns, his alt is great for mobility whether your taking height, getting out of a rough spot or saving a teammate. His alt is great for creating choke points like blocking a door or creating cover to hold people in storm. His mobile shield can be used while reviving people AND he can still use it while he is knocked. ALSO his alt counters all projectiles. Now this by it’s self is stupid BUT you also have to take into count that he’s a support legend so he also has all of those stupid buffs. With all of this the sheer amount of options you have to outplay someone is practically endless.

[@neener461]

Crazy how all these list going around are not ever close to each other

[@aja3longhorn375]

These are consistently some of the worst though. Octane in B tier for ranked is a joke. There is literally no way someone could ever convince me Ash is less useful than Octane in ranked. Catalyst in same tier as Wraith too. Crazy.

[@esiahlynch]

@@aja3longhorn375thank you wtf was he thinking. Not to mention mirage being over ash wtf is going on

[@manuelvasquez2432]

I think you had backwards thinking for ranking maggie. I also would say to switch maggie and fuse. Having alot of grenades is cool, but none of them can pass thru shields and with so many shield abilities now being indestructible, it gives more reason to play Maggie more with her drill. Her drill is the only ability that makes enemies regret throwing down their shield abilities, and her passive makes her one of (if not) the best legends who can pass thru shields, land big damage in a little amount of time, then stepping back out when they shoot back. Especially with how many more Lifelines and Newcastles in every game, Maggie should be a top priority

[@Calebreed289]

@@manuelvasquez2432 also you can throw her ult inside of gibby domes and lifeline ults now

[@1kvvrt]

Newcastle has to be God Tier. Plat lobbies are a headache right now

[@pumps585]

did he get a buff or smth? why does everyone all of the sudden think hes really good

[@maano7909]

@pumps585 Yes, he got an insane buff. You can't shoot out his tactical anymore, and he can move it when he's knocked plus the whole support buff lol

[@pumps585]

@ Gibby is still better IMO. Bubble has a 17 second cool down and, while it can’t be moved, it’s still a whole bubble, so it’s just better in my opinion. Apart from that, the extra arm shield health is great for good players, and his ultimate can basically kill a whole team when needed.

[@timmynguyen4758]

@@pumps585 new castle is a mobile cover unit with his ult and his moveable shield while also being able to move his allies while reviving them and having a shield while reviving. Really gibby could be considered better in certain situations but Newcastle within a building (and even paired with lifeline this season) is def better than gibby Edit: Newcastle’s ult is also a mini trophy system that destroys grenades when thrown towards the front of his ult. I’m saying all of that without mentioning that new castle is slightly a smaller hitbox than gibby and an lmg can still give you the same gun shield effect. I’m not gonna really count the new support buffs since that’s all supports that have it anyways. His cooldowns are also shorter than gibs

[@pumps585]

@ the tactical being moveable still doesn’t compare to having a full bubble. Newcastles shield is still very easy to nade out. And the ultimate being able to destroy nades barely does anything, since it’s only from one angle, and Gibby’s bubble, running on a 17 second cooldown, will block them from all angles.

[@LuisMoryc]

I last played in Season 21. i just watched this video because i was interested in how apex is now. And now I am still shocked about the lifeline changes.

[@UthmanAbdu]

@@LuisMoryc Facts ikr, I last played season 2q And im returning so im checking out everything before I hop back in

[@antonio_candia]

I feel like Ash is overlooked way too much. Even HisWattson acknowledged ash’s power last season

[@d0uma369]

@@antonio_candia i was thinking the same , she is definitely not the worst assault legend. Above fuze and balistic atleast

[@DarthShyon]

⁠@@d0uma369especially if your pair her with fuse or revenant

[@d0uma369]

@DarthShyon I'd say she is exactly in the middle if u were to rank all the legends in order of viability. The snare is perfectly fine now that u can throw it while shooting, healing etc and the ult is some of the best/ safest engage/disengage team abilities. Only the passive and blue upgrades are kinda shit. If they wanna keep the kit as is, all they need to do is make the blue upgrades like 10 more metters for ult distance and the other like 30secs less ult cooldown for exp

[@haloboy817]

I recently started playing her. And this video pretty much explains it perfectly. Her Q is the best for making plays but its situational, her passives are borderline useless info but info nonetheless. Her Ult is surprisingly useful for rotations and getting out of fights, but I struggle to get INTO fights with it and overall Wraith outperforms her kit tenfold. Snares are outstanding but they dont always work the way you want them to.

[@d0uma369]

@@haloboy817 "wraith outperforms her kit tenfold" .... It never stops to fascinate me how people will so confidentiality say the most objectively wrong thing

[@telvanniis]

i'd probably raise both alter and ash to high b-tier. alter's passive is actually insane, it's like a 24/7 mini loba ult. if you need an evac tower, ok you just got one. do you need ammo? here let me grab some for you. her tactical is obviously very strong, and not a lot of people realize it can be used to get to basically any high ground too as it has an insane vertical range. her ultimate is also solid in this support meta. ash has some of the best opening potential of any legend with the snare/nade/portal combo, and she's only held back by a lackluster passive.

[@buoofi9234]

ash is good in ranked, her passive lets you see where people are fighting, lvl 2 armor allows you to know how many squads are around, and lvl 3 amor allows you to trap multiple enemies, her charges fast allowing a 3+ use per match. I honestly have had great success using ash

[@illtyuh8336]

I actually agree with this list overall, maybe have seer a little higher, wall hacks and silence are pretty useful no matter what

[@gaelchavez130]

I like what’s been done to the support class even before the buffs a squad with a support legend usually beat a squad WITHOUT a support legend especially it’s a Newcastle or Lifeline, however it wasn’t enough to convince pub squads to run a support legend but I can say that every game I’ve played this season someone always picks a support even me if neither of my other teammates picks one

[@TheCryptoCB]

I think a new assault legend would be cool. Especially if they introduced a different kind of play style with the new legend.

[@d0uma369]

Love how they made conduits passive alot less niche, makes the kit feel more complete

[@lorideeds5782]

Amazing tier list as usual. I did like it the way it was before tho, like where you did them all together and not like each role.

[@itsjustdorian8927]

I’m still a bloodhound main, I think their passive is amazing especially in rent when you’re searching for that last person that got away and is healing somewhere secretly I track them down and it makes the game fun like I’m a predator

[@xSweatyTryHard]

Ash with greedy snare on this season is actually op With support getting such a big buff that most teams r running close together especially behind walls in domes/halos so more captures

[@ImLiterallyHimTho]

Mirage health bar is allegedly not fixed

[@Nandoooooh07]

I had Gibby/Lifeline/Newcastle as my top 3 biggest winners this season. They have the best support kit, and they provide so much for a team if you choose even one of them.

[@skillzay6335]

My biggest issue with Alter is that randoms don't use your ult when they should, costing the game.

[@messymakaveli9098]

Yeah it's frustrating, I only use her when I'm playing with friends as they have brains

[@ThatGuyGagik]

Hey Tim, great video as always. We haven't had a stream for a while... I'd like to suggest one in the future, especially with OG Apex back. 👍

[@masenv.1051]

Your tier lists are the best. Such a pleasure to watch/listen to them.

[@TimProVision]

Thanks!

[@adamschroeder5842]

I've been saying since release, give Alter a perk where she can yeet her ultimate. That would give her an offensive use for her ult.

[@pwvincil]

I wonder if some offensive buff to mirage ult would help. Like if you shoot the wrong one it would drop a grenade or something like that. Really play on the chaos element

[@pumps585]

YALL ARE SLEEPING ON THE GIBSTER! Even before this season he was amazing, you just had to know how to use him. It seems like there's just a lack of content creators paying attention to him and using him, making it so the playerbase gives up on him. He doesn't need a buff, he just needs more attention.

[@TimProVision]

Maybe

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Ballistic Should get Revs silence on his whisler either you shoot it out or your running. If you stick someone and they try to use their abilitie it immediately hits you with the 50 damage and lock abilities for 2-3 secs.

[@money657]

Good thing you have no control over this game lmao. This would be broken

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

@money657 no it wouldn't

[@money657]

@@eekajmoneybaby9309 your an idiot tbh. Why would it do 50 damage, cause overheating, and silence abilities. That will literally never happen bc it would be overpowered.

[@therealnoxic]

@@money657wouldn’t be too broken, maybe less damage if it’s locking abilities though.

[@Brandon-ou4wc]

Bad thing with Watson is that her ult destroys friendly grenades and ults abilities. That and her ult will charge enemy shields if they get close enough.

[@nourmallysalty]

hot take: they need to restore seer’s interruption ability for his tact. with how strong the support is now, there has so be more counters for their insane plays

[@pumps585]

This is a pretty big shift, and I haven't watched any ALGS yet, but there's no way this is the biggest meta shift we've ever seen.

[@TheRealOnee12]

Caustics needs to get a buff

[@207brapper4]

No

[@Night-warrior]

Can you make a video on how to properly use today’s legends and upgrades? I’m trying to expand my playing style but also want to know more about how to expand it

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Someone told me good players won't need counters. Legends without counters means you can't deal with the slightest inconvenience

[@SL-iw8jt]

ash on her own may not be too impressive but in combination with horizon and either of fuse or maggie , that could likely be a good counter to the current meta

[@romanrules007]

I watched GameLeaps tier list last night and you guys don’t agree on a lot of legends. For example he but ash in A, alter in secretly broken, and fuse in C tier 😂 he also put lifeline in B tier

[@TimProVision]

Yeah, they don't really play the game

[@romanrules007]

@@TimProVisionI did notice he only used other streamer footage while you actually us your own, so maybe you’re right on that

[@filipedonatti5803]

My Caustic has been nerfed so badly… (though he’s very tanky now) the gas ticks don’t make any difference AT ALL during a fight.

[@lukeharris7870]

POV Respawn: Legends can go where ever they want as long as the qualify a little. Valkery: Goes to Recon. Lifeline season 23: Goes to skirmisher 💀

[@illtyuh8336]

I personally never had an issue playing around Ballistics tact, I’d have him C or D in upper ranked and keep him at B for overall, Bloodhound is way better if you want to play aggressive not to mention the faster sprinting unlike ballistic

[@OrangeSoda1432]

The downfall of seer has to be the greatest in apex. When from “if you don’t have seer on your team you’re trolling” broken, to complete dog poop 💩 😂😂😂

[@AlienCats969]

@OrangeSoda1432 ngl The silence itself is good because of how much support legends rely on their abilities. But I do some-what agree that the other parts of his kit are kinda mid 🧍

[@yungdraco7625]

Bro using pathy in the o.g mode been so much fun

[@everope]

Getting a support legend on your team in mid-level ranked was pretty rare, now everyone is picking Lifeline or Newcastle lol

[@J4zzEditz]

just came back and love to see my boys pathfinder and rev in god tier. octane still could be better tho. i hope my girl ash gets buffed soon

[@C-A-M-456]

Got a 4K with pathy the other day he’s so good especially with his tac refresh on knock

[@neemzer7968]

please do a weapon tier list 😊 loving the content as usual

[@TimProVision]

Working on it next! Hopefully will be up around Tuesday

[@peterdippenaar7877]

Swap wattson with newcastle and you got a pretty good list here.

[@yaddietv4621]

In my opinion you just need to know how to play ash I have maines her since she came out and I have hit masters with ash in season 22

[@unarmingnewt6495]

Now we need buffs for skirmisher legends and Assalt they have pretty bad extra abilyts

[@glenncaldwell4620]

I think they need to buff assault and controller

[@jennybird_]

pretty obvious that Assault and Skirmisher classes are getting reworked in the upcoming Season(s). Recon and Controller got reworked in S22 Support in S23

[@swagwolf13]

dope list Tim! mind sharing what song you used for the background music? it was so chill and I’d love to add it to my playlist.

[@TimProVision]

thank you! I use 3 songs in this video. The intro and exit is Son of Zeus - Sons of Hades. First background song is Almannagia - West & Zander. Second background song is Rissa - Valante

[@swagwolf13]

@ dude thanks a ton!

[@braydoncarter4058]

As a Watson main I watched it just to see Watson I am happy😊

[@tomhusher2668]

Just a joy to watch your videos as usual, top job , keep it up mate !

[@Leon_vandaele]

If you have first upgrade on mirage you can get your ult in 30 seconds hes S tier i love it

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

They need to revert they crypto alter interaction it was actually skilled based and took a lot of coordination unlike cat and seer. Being able to enable a legend that was relatively mid to really strong isn't that big of a issue because it could still be outplayed.

[@timmynguyen4758]

This season is really the lifeline and Newcastle duo’s dream and it’s quite annoying but they deserve it. (Now let me get my ash rework)

[@diablo.7153]

thing is if you’re good at the game in general you gon do good with any character I think a big thing about apex is being brain smart rather then having the best legend

[@Barcxde-]

One of my least favorite types of teammates is a greedy/selfish loba. I can’t count the amount of times my team has had to chase a loba around the map, just for them to get aped by themselves.

[@JG-im3fn]

Haven’t been able to test this yet but can you drop Gibbys bubble inside of lifelines ult to protect the top?

[@TimProVision]

You can!

[@Amar0134]

That G7 skin at 1:10 is CRAZY

[@Nuncents]

Ballistic being better than ash, snaring is a lot more useful, you can snare jump cannons and jump towers.

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Giving everyone the ability to revive does buff some legends but it also it encourageous bad players to run immediately instead of being there for a gun fight I've seen to many people be like this when a fight could have been a easy win but then they constantly sell the game just to reset their teammates.

[@hayvanejones8791]

Newcastle, lifeline, Gibby are one of the best Rank legends. Yeah pathy and bang to. But these 3 are a must if you want a easier life.

[@YTCrossedG]

Alright there is enough rampart love. And yes the new shields are a new thing to wrap the mind around. Loce the content.

[@SamR-g5o]

Hi Tim I just wanted to ask for a legend recommendation again (sorry) but I'm lvl 160 still with no main and I'm struggling tbf I've only been back for a season for a year long break, is there any legend who you would recommend or one that you think is worth learning and could be very rewarding and I would learn a lot, thanks

[@TimProVision]

Id try any of the support legends right now

[@haloboy817]

Can anyone explain how exactly you can get around a Newcastle wall this season? I feel like once it is down, there is NO counter to it. Any throwables are useless, it eats up most Ults and you cant simply get around it if they deploy from height or even on top of you. Pair this with a Lifeline and then either Wattson or Rev and its such a garbage meta to fight against.

[@lolalela93]

imagine how good it must feel for your shots to actually register.

[@Nuncents]

Ransoms don’t use alter ult, you will get no value from alter as a solo queuer on top of having underwhelming perks

[@nastygamingz9101]

I feel like octane needs a sub category cause if you’re a movement god he’s definitely s tier if you can’t do any movement he’s not good at all

[@xorkns]

Gibby S tier newcastle god tier imo

[@redthekantohero5040]

Maggie is a balanced legend on height you can throw the ball in the halo

[@philipbrackett443]

I'm sad, man. They're gonna nerf my boy Newcastle into the ground after this season. I would have been happy with just _one_ of the buffs they gave him and the support class. But all of this at the same time? They're insane in the membrane

[@pumps585]

I honestly don't really support this idea that bang is a "hybrid" legend. Yeah, she can do a bit of everything, but when I want offense on my team, I look to fuse and Maggie, not Bangalore, and when I look for team support, I look to basically any support legend, not Bangalore. All things considered, yeah, she can do a bit of everything, but her main purpose is survivability, and if you want anything else, you shouldn't pick her.

[@gabrielalbertogarcia4356]

I have to disagree heavily on Maggie. I've found the wrecking ball to be better now since it can cause all sorts of mayhem inside a Gibby or lifeline dome.

[@sleet9289]

i want a new control legend, they have the most interesting kits, in my opinion.

[@pieterdonut]

OG royal tierlist pls!!!

[@joshgrandmtl1098]

A little bit Bias of a list imo, but still love your videos! You earned a Sub ❤️

[@lauens]

03:29 wish my enemies would just stand still

[@xMankii]

I would take an Ash on my team any day of the week over an Octane for ranked

[@patrickgarrett1439]

I would love a best squad comps list

[@TreNance]

Bro no shot at 4:53 that was me and my homeboy 😭I forget if we won that game or not ngl 😭but ggs

[@tbas1015]

Ash: C, D I still proceed to see practically every squad I come across with an Ash 😂

[@TobiAlay]

What about a assault legend with psychic abilities that’s actually Wraith brother

[@ghernandez909909]

Sorry but Ash is literally A tier for me..her Ult ain’t the best but it’s literally a great way to get high-ground and her tactical is insanely underrated..every time I use her I get kills with it left and right..making ppl stay in a certain area not being able to fly or run away? That’s insane

[@Ankjear]

Ikr, I feel like sometimes when people makes there rankings they don't play her properly, catching people trying to run away is so good, and if they have a third that's a little bit further away snaring them so they can't be right then and there in the fight

[@AmirKazimi]

there are reasons when nobody plays a legend

[@JT-km6th]

Lol hell no

[@OrangeSoda1432]

@@Ankjear it was better last season, she could hold down Newcastle ult, valk etc, but now, she’s pretty much worthless unless you have someone low and you don’t want them to run lol her ult is the only thing viable but imo, if you’re playing her just for that, it’s over for ash.

[@YOUNGxCRAVEN]

Cough cough horizon

[@jg_____5090]

Yep you got it right!

[@clipz_power6387]

Who should i buy

[@KaiVanzo]

This was great I would love a oh royal tear lest

[@TimProVision]

Thank you! Appreciate the support

[@jamaul67]

Love your content, but I don't think you based the tier offs of the meta as well as you usually would. Rn with support being the needed spot for every team in ranked it's either about who pairs well with a support class or who counters those support legends like lifeline or Newcastle

[@TimProVision]

Pairings are always critical. I usually try to look at the legend as to their benefit to any other legend, not specific pairings as it gets way too complicated then

[@brianj9634]

We need an updated new castle guide !!

[@TimProVision]

noted!

[@Booshiii554]

Assault and skirmisher need some sort of perk. Everything else does now

[@shalindelta7]

Nope, the buffs are mostly to increase pickrates, something skirmisher legends don't have a problem with. Stop rushing to conclusions about how legend buffs will pan out, it may look broken at first but with some adaptation you'll find your way through.

[@ho2673]

Ash underrated AF

[@manuelvasquez2432]

Hold up.. You ranked maggie by the nerf to her ult against gibby dome and the recents buffs of newcastle and lifeline. While the gibby dome encounter does weaken her, Wouldnt the best pick agaisnt newcastle and lifeline be maggie for her drill?? Her drill is the only thing that can smoke out cocky newcastle's when they hide behind his tac shield and her drill can pierce thru lifeline's new ult meaning they can't hide and heal. So wouldn't that make maggie better?? I mean you said it yourself her drill is still great for applying pressure.

[@shalindelta7]

You have a point, the drill alone makes her scary

[@XOMXY]

The alter that just gave up halfway through the fight💀

[@rubensollid]

Will you be making a gun tier list for this season?

[@TimProVision]

Yeah, working on it now

[@kelseykent1196]

Is there a bug going on with lifeline now? I’ve tried reassigning the drone to other people and it just will not prompt the ability for me to do so when it’s already out. And also it doesn’t give me the ability to recall it like I don’t see it on the tactical section. However, when I go into the fire range, it’s there the option to recall and assign so am I misunderstanding something? And also I threw it out one time and it just wouldn’t heal me so Idek what’s up with that can someone help me out with this issue please 🙏🏿

[@TimProVision]

Yeah... I haven't been able to reassign either

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Maggie not being able to break barriers anymore means she's back in C tier

[@victormartinez4381]

need a gun one next!!

[@thesketchartist6328]

Why is Wattson in god tier? She is all defense with no offense or movement. While you put new castle in S that has defense, offense, movement. His wall literally has Wattsons ult ability to destroy grenades.

[@TimProVision]

Ranked isn't really all about offense. Surviving, being able to see where the ring is moving to, support the team with gen heals, etc. is why I put her on top

[@joshruffin3464]

Disrespecting gibby is insane for ranked

[@JosiahGamezYT]

My tier list Assault: Ash: B tier pubs C tier ranked Ballistic B tier pubs D tier ranked Maggie A tier pubs B tier ranked Fuse S tier pubs A tier ranked Bang S tier pubs S tier ranked Skrimisher Octane A tier pubs D tier ranked Wraith B tier pubs A tier ranked Alter B tier pubs B tier ranked Horizon S tier pubs A tier ranked Pathfinder God tier pubs S tier ranked Revanant A tier pubs B tier ranked Recon Seer D tier pubs C tier ranked Vantage B tier pubs A tier ranked Crypto C tier pubs A tier ranked Bloodhound A tier pubs A tier ranked Valk B tier pubs S tier ranked Controller Caustic D tier pubs B tier ranked Catalyst B tier pubs S tier ranked Rampart C tier pubs B tier ranked Watson B tier pubs A tier ranked Support Mirage B tier pubs D tier ranked Loba C tier pubs B tier ranked Conduit S tier pubs S tier ranked Lifeline God tier pubs S tier ranked Newcastle god tier pubs god tier ranked Gibraltar God tier pubs God tier ranked

[@JosiahGamezYT]

Gibby, castle are god tier and arguably lifeline too. And counduit is S tier. Mirage is C tier,