Building a Generator

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Tim Station

Tim Station

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@Gh0sb0ss
@Gh0sb0ss Жыл бұрын
This actually gives people a very easy way of physically feeling how much power it takes to run different types of circuits, I think it would be a cool idea for a science fair or something
@thebirchwoodtree
@thebirchwoodtree Жыл бұрын
reminds me of a science museum that had a device with a hand crank and would let you try and power old lightbulbs vs new led bulbs and see how it's easier to power led bulbs
@KingJellyfishII
@KingJellyfishII Жыл бұрын
pretty sure they have something like this in the glasgow science museum
@kiburebuc
@kiburebuc Жыл бұрын
​​​@@thebirchwoodtreeSame at the Los Angeles Science Center, but it's a stationary bike there. There are, iirc, 5 incandescent light bulbs and 5 LED bulbs of the same light output that you can switch between powering.
@DiverseGreen-Anon
@DiverseGreen-Anon Жыл бұрын
@@thebirchwoodtree I saw this the first time when I was a kid and visited the "Abrafaxe Extavium" in germany. They had a bike with a generator and besides different light bulbs (incandescent, "Neon" (energy saving), LED etc.) they also had a toaster... After pushing the lever down the bike felt like it instantly slammed the brakes as it is actually quite a lot of energy to only keep the magnet engaged, nevermind feeding the heating coils with "only" ~600w xD. They had a lot of devices plugged into that bike for kids and parents to try out. I only remember these and a fan though
@ehhhhhhhhhh
@ehhhhhhhhhh Жыл бұрын
Many exercise bikes include this as a feature. They have watt readouts and you can feel how much a particular wattage is with your legs.
@Acamperfull
@Acamperfull Жыл бұрын
Once the supercaps are charged you can use them to start a car with a flat battery. This way you can (hand) crank start a modern car engine!
@bob2859
@bob2859 Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious. I did the math and it looks like 100F is about right. That dragster bank is 100F, but I'm not sure about its voltage rating or ESR. There's also the old Electroboom video "Cranking a Car with Super Capacitors (Supercap)"
@jasonharrison25
@jasonharrison25 Жыл бұрын
I have a bank of 6x 3000f supercapacitors in place of my car battery in my TDI. Starts very well if fully charged. I have a 5w solar panel on the roof and charge controller to keep it topped off if I'm not driving it. 6x in series is 500f. I don't recommend anything less after using it for about 10 years now. They will only give you one or two tries before the voltage is too low to start the engine. Another benefit is they charge up in seconds. So 10 seconds or so it's charged enough to reset the engine. Would be excellent for delivery vehicle, postal service, etc that have a lot of stops and starts. The few times I've had to jump it or put a charger on it to charge it back up took only q few minutes to be fully charged. A jump is only 10 seconds like when the engine is running. The cheaper jumper cables get hot with the amount of current running through them. I've also been able to jump start other larger vehicles and pickups with my car and a good set of cables. People are always scratching their head confused when they see it
@Let_the_nonsense_blaze.
@Let_the_nonsense_blaze. Жыл бұрын
Thought of the same thing. Also, I've got a few old tractors where handcranck+supercap could be a very usable solution.
@Parker-di7ef
@Parker-di7ef Жыл бұрын
@@jasonharrison25I’d love to see a video on this! I never heard of anyone doing that!
@luppano
@luppano Жыл бұрын
Or charge the phone. Crank hard a few minutes, and let the capacitors charge the phone for longer at lower power.
@renson2160
@renson2160 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how 4 chapters worth of topics of physics electronics have been covered in a single generator building video
@haidara77
@haidara77 5 ай бұрын
Welcome to real life man!
@EvGamerBETA
@EvGamerBETA 6 ай бұрын
This feels very satisfying, that you can build something that would convert raw mechanical power into something that could interface with complex electronics. It's like holding a manifestation of the civilization at your desk
@LuxAuroraWinery
@LuxAuroraWinery 4 ай бұрын
Now all we need is a power inverter and some batteries and we just powered a neighborhood .❤ I wonder if I could get the 3D plans to this!
@over7532
@over7532 4 ай бұрын
It's in the description! 👍
@zescoot2590
@zescoot2590 Жыл бұрын
Seeing something like this in action really makes understanding electricity way easier than just some formulas
@_Matyro_
@_Matyro_ Жыл бұрын
You should move to active rectifier instead of passive diode one. At these low voltages, you lose most of your power in the diodes at the moment. For ultra low drop diodes you will lose 0.2V per Diode which is around 10% for your voltages, for classic diodes (which you seem to be using) its 0.7V per diode resulting in quite a bit of wasted energy.
@nathansmith7153
@nathansmith7153 Жыл бұрын
FERD diodes are about the same as a synchronous rectifier
@bgdwiepp
@bgdwiepp Жыл бұрын
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@oliverer3
@oliverer3 Жыл бұрын
​​@@manitoba-op4jxThen you're back to needing brushes. Not to mention that they're quite inefficient.
@fishyerik
@fishyerik Жыл бұрын
Oh, how surprised I would be if it turned out Tom wasn't aware about diode voltage dropout already. As the loss depends on the voltage he can also reduce losses by creating a higher voltage, and step it down afterwards, if necessary. Higher voltage and lower amps at a given power reduce losses in wires too.
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 Жыл бұрын
4 Schotky Diodes would do the same job in a ractifier layout. the same 0.2v drop across each diode. their only downside is that they are hard to get hold of in higher amperage but can be done. Plus add a bank of Zener Diodes in parallel to handle the current when regulating back down to the higher limit voltage. say a bank of 12.1V zeners at 5 watts each
@simiken1234
@simiken1234 Жыл бұрын
Its super cool how electrical resistance turns to physical resistance with this thing. Would be a great learning tool for kids!
@markoap91
@markoap91 Жыл бұрын
It's not really electrical resistance turning into physical resistance, it's electrical power turning into physical resistance. The more power draw you have the harder it is to turn. But I agree it would be a great learning tool for kids. This is actually true for any generator and is a part of the law of conservation of energy and not only kids but most people are not aware that generators are harder to turn the more power draw you have from them.
@megaman1997ful
@megaman1997ful Жыл бұрын
@@markoap91 what is the reason for the power draw causing more resistance?
@Kycilak
@Kycilak Жыл бұрын
@@megaman1997ful Because you cannot create energy out of nothing. The speed of turning the generator gives the voltage, but you may draw different current at the same voltage, meaning it has to be possible to generate different amounts of power using the same crank speed. The only things, that affect the power generated, is the speed and the force (alternatively the torque and angular velocity), and with constant speed, the only thing that may change is the force. Hence higher power draw causes the need for more force. As per the mechanics this is caused because the current flowing through the generator coils produces magnetic fields that oppose the change caused by the rotation of the magnets in rotor. When no power is drawn, no current flows, and there is no resistance (ideally). When the power draw increases, the current rises and the magnetic fields opposing rotation are stronger, hence one has to crank against more resistance.
@megaman1997ful
@megaman1997ful Жыл бұрын
@@Kycilak Thankyou for the detailed response! thats completely cleared up the confusion for me :D
@markoap91
@markoap91 Жыл бұрын
@@megaman1997ful @Kycilak covered everything quite well. Nothing I can add to that.
@jana171
@jana171 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE this project Tim ! Attach a propellor, and you have a windmill, add a battery, and you go offgrid camping with full 12V electricity available. Measure available Kw output and explain calculations for windings, batteries, magnets and such, and there's a scientific story to be told too. This could take you in every direction you'd please 🙂
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 Жыл бұрын
Sure you can. The only difficulties are in storing enough until next charging. excellent project!
@flexairz
@flexairz Жыл бұрын
That's why wind power has failed massively. It's intermittent and not demand driven. Nice for small projects but not for large scale applications.
@jana171
@jana171 Жыл бұрын
@@flexairz 🤡
@jarateman6427
@jarateman6427 Жыл бұрын
@@flexairz Water works tho u just need flowing water. Instead of the handcrank u could add on a waterwheel.
@KitsuneKimmy
@KitsuneKimmy Жыл бұрын
@@jarateman6427 True, but it takes quite a bit of water to store energy using gravity. Unfortunately, the amount of cranking on a generator like this that would be needed for practical use would wear your arm out pretty fast! Might be better to hook it up to an exercise bike, though you would still get pretty tired.
@ArktinenPeikko
@ArktinenPeikko Жыл бұрын
My daughter was just asking a few days ago about how electricity is made. This should be clear enough way to show and tell. Might even print a project for us to build out of this. Thanks for providing the link to the files.
@nerddwarf
@nerddwarf 10 ай бұрын
"Don't know if I could spin it for an hour and 13 minutes" Just 3D print a small water-wheel, attach it to the handcrank, and mount the generator by a river.
@Ryuko15
@Ryuko15 7 ай бұрын
It would be great to have a bicycle to generate electricity for a gym
@barookQ8
@barookQ8 6 ай бұрын
3D printing a hydroelectric dam
@deskmat9874
@deskmat9874 6 ай бұрын
@@Ryuko15 I thought some gym machines actually turn themselves on by you beginning to use it, and then it converts that energy you used and powers on the display for the machine
@brett_norris
@brett_norris 6 ай бұрын
@@deskmat9874 I have an exercise bike at home that does exactly that!
@TotalDec
@TotalDec 6 ай бұрын
I've always wanted one of these pushes by fan blades. Set it outside during a high wind time, and have charged batteries for free.
@paulmelois
@paulmelois Жыл бұрын
I have an old Singer sewing machine stand that I've always wanted to repurpose as a manual charging desk; now I've got all the R&D already done thanks to you! Awesome job, thanks a lot
@matthewrodriguez6327
@matthewrodriguez6327 9 ай бұрын
That’s what o was thinking 👍🏼
@sgtbrown4273
@sgtbrown4273 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree, you need a passive diode and definitely hook a super capacitor to it. Charge it for a few minutes and then it will charge your phone. That way you don't have to keep cranking continuously. Awesome project is always.😊
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 Жыл бұрын
Well considering a standard phone battery has enough energy to lift a 2tone car 1 meter off the ground, you will need to crank that a while.
@Dollarwine
@Dollarwine Жыл бұрын
​@@dragoscoco2173so you're saying all I need is several dozen pulleys...
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 Жыл бұрын
@@Dollarwine With great leverage comes great amount of pull. Energy=Force x distance. The more you skimp out on the use of force the more distance you need to travel to produce said energy. 2tonnes lifting at 1m height. Or 100kg at 20m. Or 2 kg at 1km. Take your pick.
@TheJohnreeves
@TheJohnreeves Жыл бұрын
@@dragoscoco2173 That's not much energy. A car jack can easily lift the car in a few seconds. It's a car jack with a much higher "gear ratio". He's limited by the 1 amp output of the USB board he was using which is why it will take the amount of time his phone said it would take (a little over an hour). Maybe with a high power USB board so it can fast charge, but even that would probably take 20 minutes or more. I can lift a car in 20 minutes easy with the right leverage. Use a bicycle to power it instead and I can output enough energy to charge the phone in a couple minutes (but the phone would still need 20 or whatever it ends up being).
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 Жыл бұрын
@@TheJohnreeves I totally agree that is not much for a human to pull off. It is roughly the equivalent energy of me climbing a 6th of 7th story building with my own weight. I could do it in 2 minutes casually. Yet that crank system is not geared or levered for such a feat in 2 minutes. What I tried to imply is just the amount of hand cranking necessary for a standard size phone charging.
@BernardSandler
@BernardSandler Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. When it comes down to it, a generator/motor isn't that complicated. Always good to see that demonstrated.
@AlexusMaximusDE
@AlexusMaximusDE Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah.. these days we have access to materials and methods of manufacturing for home users which far exceed the capabilities and materials early specialists had access to.
@NandR
@NandR Жыл бұрын
My favorite daydream is going back to like 1200 AD and creating a generator. They had metallurgy. Copper and iron and magnets. Energy storage would be harder but running power from a water mill wouldn't be impossible. But using that power would be limited. Lights would be basically impossible to make. Motors would be relatively easy. Using it for heating could work.
@AlexusMaximusDE
@AlexusMaximusDE Жыл бұрын
@@NandR If you can build a generator, you can figure out how to make a motor and some gears. If you can make a motor and some gears, you can make a lathe. If you can make a lathe, you can make a vacuum pump. If you can make a vacuum pump you can do a low friction flywheel and lightbulbs. If you can do that, you can be burned for witchcraft.
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexusMaximusDE The Energy equation implies that the early specialists could build this easily just heavier. We had at some point in time hand cranked army phones.
@AlexusMaximusDE
@AlexusMaximusDE Жыл бұрын
@@dragoscoco2173 So you are saying they could have built a much worse version with much more effort because they had access to worse materials and technologies. Cool.
@ashurean
@ashurean Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the pedal-type generators. Those are something I could see actually being useful in an emergency. They're a bit bigger, but if you lose power, it's easier to charge up a battery bank with your legs.
@panther105
@panther105 10 ай бұрын
This is brilliant. From some experience with hand cranked tools, having a little more weight to offset the crank handle can help smoothen the power input from your hands and help with the overall balance of the whole apparatus.
@jaydeep-p
@jaydeep-p Жыл бұрын
Hand cranks get hard after some time but a foot pedal like those on sewing machines is significantly easier to turn for a long time.
@GeomancerHT
@GeomancerHT Жыл бұрын
Hamsters jay, hamsters!
@markifi
@markifi Жыл бұрын
there's so much power in the legs. 100-200 watts easy, for hours, even more power for a lot of people
@laflador_7691
@laflador_7691 Жыл бұрын
attach it to your bike and you will be able to charge your phone during travels
@greasher926
@greasher926 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, you could easily retrofit a spinning wheel (for spinning thread).
@jerremm
@jerremm Жыл бұрын
Potential upgrades, have a steel plate on either end of the rotor so the magnets have a low reluctance path and you'd have more magnetic flux. (or the same with less magnets) Also a freewheeling clutch thing for if you stop cranking and the rotor can spin freely.
@ransombot
@ransombot Жыл бұрын
Taking transformer plates and shoving them in the center of the coils would probably be better, for less over all weight. Like doubling the output power better. Would also be interesting to see ferrofluid in the center. More used in speakers as a lube for the driver & a flux enhancer but it should work there too.
@BronzSoldier
@BronzSoldier Жыл бұрын
What happens if you put coils on both sides of the plates that holds the magnets? I mean the parts where the magnets are should be open on the both sides and then you put coils on both sides of it. What would happen?
@ransombot
@ransombot Жыл бұрын
You have the problem of transferring power when you do that. Tend to ark and cause corrosion having you wires stationary makes it much easier. Unless you are just talking about making a stacking generator. He hints at that in the video when he talks about the series parallel configuration. You'd get more amp/volts depending on the configuration. The ends though waste magnetic field if it's not directed back in with some ferromagnetic material, or a Halbach array Generally want your ends to redirect the field back in where you are capturing the work. That said it's harder to deign and heavier so where weight is an issue you don't always or to the same degree. Worth noting that the coils when this happens generate heat, copper / aluminum are diamagnetic and appose the field around generating the power. More work More heat more coils even more heat. You'd run a good risk of a PLA generator melting without regulating that extra current or adding in thermal correction with airflow or convection. Not so bad with a hand crank but a wind or motor driven one would Definity suffer a meltdown. Much like an induction heater.
@markusw9455
@markusw9455 Жыл бұрын
The low reluctance path needs to be laminated otherwise he will get huge eddy currents. Perpendicular to the direction of magnetic flux, a bit like arches. Maybe he will get away on bother outer sides with only a flat plate, since the field of the magnets is much more dominant compared to the induced field of the stator. Main benefit will be if he can provide a low reluctance path for the stator coils (filling coil with lamination). Big benefit with the axial machine is, theses paths are already short by design (different as in radial flux machines)
@JackAllpikeMusic
@JackAllpikeMusic Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a series of iteration upon this just like your planes - where you try and design better and better generators, finding what works best/worst and create the most powerful hand powered generator you can while keeping it reasonably easy to use and maintain.
@GroovyGears69
@GroovyGears69 6 ай бұрын
I am currently printing out the parts and have the extra hardware hopefully coming in this weekend. Thank you Tom for your wonderful content. Ill post an update when i finish mine and share my results
@ilanlee3025
@ilanlee3025 2 ай бұрын
No idea why this was recommended to me but very happy it was. Best video I have ever seen explaining and showing the conversion and storage of electricity. Subscribed!
@camelmer02
@camelmer02 Жыл бұрын
You have been the only person to ever successfully explain a rectifier to me. Thank you
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 5 ай бұрын
Like a dual action flap valve box bellows for electricity.
@chipcode5538
@chipcode5538 Жыл бұрын
I think you can increase the efficiency by changing the coil design. As far as I know the part off the coil that is perpendicular to the changing magnetic field contributes the most to the output. The rest is just added resistance. Also you can increase the power of the magnetic field by adding a backing metal or hallbach configuration of the magnets.
@simonlinser8286
@simonlinser8286 Жыл бұрын
Look at hard drive motor, coils shaped like wedges with rounded corners. Why? What you just said about the impedance reluctance resistance etc
@markusw9455
@markusw9455 Жыл бұрын
This type of motor works well, it is called an axial motor. Backplate would be nice, but only if laminated perpendicular to flux direction. This would mean like an arch of bricks between each coil. Winding layout should be 3 coils for each pair of magnet (easiest, classical synchronous machine). And the interconnection should be diffenent. It sure works with all coils in line. But he gets big circular currents driven by voltage differences due to the coils seeing different fields - also depending on winding direction of the coils (clockwise, ccw).
@jtruant
@jtruant Жыл бұрын
Favorite content creator on KZbin. I’m a total electronics novice and feel like I come away with a much better intuition from your videos than I would from other types of learning. Definitely want to print this one!
@khaledadams4329
@khaledadams4329 Жыл бұрын
That is so interesting to hear you say how much physical resistance it creates with a load. I want to try printing one of these now. Thanks for sharing!
@targetdreamer257
@targetdreamer257 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant! It is a compact and elegant piece of equipment. That being said just a few minor design tweaks and you’re golden. 1. Broaden the base of it. That way screw holes can be integrated into it so as to be mountable. 2A. Alter the cranking part. Like having it so two hands can be use. 2B. Or Keep the two crank design so the hand cranks can be swapped out for foot pedals. 2C. You could even change it up so it can be rigged up so the stator can be cranked by a gravity battery. Suspend some weight in the air and connect that weight to the generator by s long cable.
@Bein_Ian
@Bein_Ian Жыл бұрын
After watching many electroboom videos I never could understand what a full bridge rectifier was, but your video made it seem so simple. I love electronics but can't wrap my head around them a lot. Thanks for the video!
@joshua3291
@joshua3291 Жыл бұрын
Cool video Tom, maybe you could make a stationary bike where the wheel charges through the same method, would be a lot less tiring than hand cranking
@michroz
@michroz Жыл бұрын
Another idea for improvement is to put 2 thick steel discs on the outside of your magnetic rotors. I believe this would increase the magnetic field by containing it within the steel discs. Also this could somewhat increase the fly-wheel effect. Maybe the coils also could be wound around (or in-between) the steel cores to even better direct and improve the magnetic field.
@bosstowndynamics5488
@bosstowndynamics5488 Жыл бұрын
High performance axial flux motors generally use either 2 sets of coils, one on each side of the magnet rotor, or 2 sets of magnets, either side of the coil stator, to maximise flux through the coils per unit weight. Obviously this doesn't need to be as optimised weight wise but I suspect a twin magnet setup would be better for increased flux density over trying to direct the field with steel
@googooboyy
@googooboyy 7 ай бұрын
Why hasn't anyone created bikes with these generators for home-use? That way people can get cardiovascular exercises and charge batteries up too! Forget Peloton! Welcome, Electron!
@GroovyGears69
@GroovyGears69 6 ай бұрын
I'm going to give it a try!
@olcuqap1789
@olcuqap1789 6 ай бұрын
they do
@ProfessionalGasLighting
@ProfessionalGasLighting 6 ай бұрын
You don’t generate a lot of electricity unfortunately, even at the high end of efficiency and at the high end of human ability… there are KZbinrs that have done this and have shown the amperage… alternatively, if you have any fan, you can spin it and measure the outlet cord with a multimeter and you will get a very tiny amount of electricity. Most a/c motors are also a/c generators because of the law of enthalpy or something like that
@richhagenchicago
@richhagenchicago 5 ай бұрын
People have built them. There were a few on the Fieldlines forum a number of years back.
@RehaanPlayz0306
@RehaanPlayz0306 3 ай бұрын
There’s something like that in my city named ‘SmartBike’. They are bikes you can rent for 1 whole day and they have battery packs that are charged by your pedalling.
@crunchymilkentmt6351
@crunchymilkentmt6351 16 күн бұрын
These were my absolute favourites when we went over them in 9th grade!!!
@Maarrk
@Maarrk Жыл бұрын
Cool project, if I may add a safety concern is that you'd really prefer to use *female* XT60 connector on your generator. As is, the pins can be shorted easily by anything conductive, and that's why power sources should have female terminals - look at your batteries with the same XT60 plug, or even electrical sockets in the wall. Probably not an issue for this one, but it's a good habit to have 👍
@TimStation
@TimStation Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's correct. However, I wired it this way because it doesn't matter if the generator short circuits (the crank resistance just goes up). But if I charge a battery or capacitor, I don't want the wrong connector on them as that short would be far worse.
@Duamerthrax
@Duamerthrax Жыл бұрын
@@TimStation There's also 15 Amp Anderson Powerpole Connectors, which are genderless and protected on both ends. Regardless, you're right that the battery bank end is the one you need to worry about.
@jayw900
@jayw900 Жыл бұрын
Not actually a concern in this use case.
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 Жыл бұрын
shorting a hand cranked generator...??
@Raccy-theftine-offical
@Raccy-theftine-offical Жыл бұрын
I'm no electricity nerd so I have no idea what you mean by female-
@strawman9410
@strawman9410 Жыл бұрын
Use the capacitor bank to a step down converter to charge a phone etc then once you charge the bank you won't need to keep cranking the handle. Mine powers LEDs for upto 45 minutes after 10 minutes of cranking. Thanks for sharing. Yours gives more power output than mine. 👍🇬🇧
@SapioiT
@SapioiT Жыл бұрын
Next thing to do would be to get a bicycle, add a stand on both sides so you can pedal with the back wheel in the air, and then connect it to the pedals. Or maybe even make a custom bicycle pedal assembly to be able to charge a phone while cycling, regardless of whether stationary or not.
@danthanhhuynhpham685
@danthanhhuynhpham685 Жыл бұрын
Im thinking more of using the motion of a rocking chair to run it So you can rest and charge at the same time
@skullmax3595
@skullmax3595 Жыл бұрын
@@danthanhhuynhpham685 itd be impractical and i think if you wanna rest, a windmill type of energy generator would be best. The bicycle idea would work better ig.
@slurricrasher9923
@slurricrasher9923 11 ай бұрын
@@danthanhhuynhpham685 A simple setup similar to this that could attach to either a spinning wheel like a bike or a dual pedal rocker for a chair would be one of the best camping accessory inventions ever.
@WOLFPACKED
@WOLFPACKED 11 ай бұрын
oh i just made a comment about the kickr core - a bike smart trainer system that i think could be modded for this purpose exactly
@Rockstarbird21
@Rockstarbird21 7 ай бұрын
Hey Mr. Tom. I hope you are doing good. I'm from India. I love your videos and the way you explain. I have been watching your videos from past 2 years. My journey to this amazing channel was when I searched for ebike build videos. Since then I have followed you Since I changed my account I list my subscribe list. But then thanks to yt I remembered your channel back. I was actually planning to buy a car alternator for this project but then you came in and saved thousands of rupees. Thank you so much. Please keep up the great work😊😊😊.
@artpam
@artpam Жыл бұрын
So interesting to see how you apply what you've learned in the past to new projects. Thanks for the 3D files, this will be a fun (and useful) project.
@mennims
@mennims Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, been watching you for over half a decade. Your generator came out beautifully. It looks amazing, seems to operate smoothly and work eficiently enough for it to have some practical use. It's great to see you do more electronics as well! Something I struggled with in electronics was understanding voltage and current and it's relation to watts and using the "correct" terms that other electrically experienced people will understand. I'd like to share a concept that works for me. Power = RPM x Torque Power = Voltage x Current I see RPM as Voltage, current as torque. When I look at the charged storage in your generator I imagine a metal flywheel spinning relatively slowly (low voltage) but with a lot of mass (available current). When that flywheel is charged, your brain may not think "what do I do with all this speed" (or volts), you may think of it in terms of power instead.
@elliot6758
@elliot6758 Жыл бұрын
hey tom! i built something like this just the other day, using a nema34 stepper motor. stepper motors are great for low rpm high voltage generators as that is how they're designed to operate
@marsrover001
@marsrover001 Жыл бұрын
Hand crank rail gun time? It only makes sense. The fallout 3 fans require it.
@ancientstraits9288
@ancientstraits9288 7 ай бұрын
I REALLY want to make this for some reason. One part of me feels like there's no point, because of the electricity we readily have, but the other part of me thinks that this could help me be more self-sufficient and off-the-grid, or something. Anyways, 2-3 hours to charge a phone is actually extremely impressive. And if you made a generator from a bicycle, you could probably charge it even faster!
@Mr.ky89
@Mr.ky89 9 ай бұрын
The air core hand crank generator is very wonderful. Thank you for sharing with the audience
@skrymerU
@skrymerU Жыл бұрын
That was fun. Would have been interesting to see how many amps it could generate and calculate the power.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
maybe 20W
@TimStation
@TimStation Жыл бұрын
This video was meant to be a short build/info video for an upcoming video on my main channel. However, it's gained far more interest than I expected, so I'll be making a follow-up soon!
@specialneedsmolester1957
@specialneedsmolester1957 Жыл бұрын
@@TimStationmake it into a mini wind turbine
@corpuschristihq4370
@corpuschristihq4370 Жыл бұрын
@@TimStation Could you also please explain more in detail how you connect coils, diodes, capacitors, and mini digital voltometer? Any electronic schematic would be greatly appreciate.
@aloismapanzure
@aloismapanzure 8 ай бұрын
​@@TimStation Hi Tim, do you help with 3D printing prototypes?
@londonnight937
@londonnight937 Жыл бұрын
Tom, the only real way to know how much your generator produces is to get a maximum power point tracker and a suitable load for it. The load impedance must match perfectly the impedance of your generator, at which point you measure the power dissipated on the load, and that's your generator rating, for a certain RPM of the generator. Would be cool if in the next video you would do that, because I'm quite curious how much a hand cranked generator will make.
@veryInteresting_
@veryInteresting_ Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess it would be in single digit watts
@adamjc86
@adamjc86 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff Tim, this kind of tangible, real world, but simple project seems like a great way to get people into electronics
@UnKnown-hf4mi
@UnKnown-hf4mi Жыл бұрын
If this thing was made to be as efficient as possible… I would totally buy one from this guy.
@SmartZero-f8e
@SmartZero-f8e 11 ай бұрын
this guy doesn´t have the necessary equipment to do it.
@andrewangerer1399
@andrewangerer1399 3 ай бұрын
This is a great video and has sparked my enthusiasm for at home power generation. I was hoping to scale this idea up to a bicycle that is placed on a training stand. Are there any implications I may need to consider before scaling up? I plan on having magnets on the bike wheel itself and build a larger coil array that will be very close to the wheel. I understand the total power production will be low but this is more a fun project for me.
@B0A2
@B0A2 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see future iterations of this project perhaps on a bike
@CoreyKearney
@CoreyKearney Жыл бұрын
I would add a clutch and flywheel to smooth out the cranking effort. And some Caps so you can crank around 15v to store that up. Cutting the cranking time by 2/3.
@RandomBogey
@RandomBogey Жыл бұрын
8:34 there’s a calibration pot/screw on the back of the blue led volt meter to dial in the voltage readout
@Sembazuru
@Sembazuru Жыл бұрын
For what he is doing the readout is probably "close enough". But, yeah. Most decent voltage readouts like that have a small calibration pot for when it matters.
@elementkx
@elementkx Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. You should sell a kit for people to watch this vid and make one themselves. I would love to make this with my kids.
@ToddyPoddy-fy5dc
@ToddyPoddy-fy5dc 2 ай бұрын
Do you have a hamster
@beaneater6932
@beaneater6932 Ай бұрын
i ate mine 🙂
@yungu1776
@yungu1776 Жыл бұрын
A nice piece of work! It would be great if you show us the actual usable peak current output off this generator.
@gshingles
@gshingles Жыл бұрын
Very nice design. I don't know if you've seen Robert Murray Smith's channel, but he uses serpentine coils which seem like a lot less work to make, to me. :)
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 Жыл бұрын
serpentine coils. ahhhh, stupidity at its finest! go look into "jacobs law". a serpentine coil, by its very nature of construction, limits the amount of power that can be delivered to a load, and instead forms a load itself, and WASTES power as heat in its own resistance. go back to the demonstration of eddy currents, lenz law... dropping a magnet in a pipe. start THINKING about it. what if you cut the pipe? what if its a coil? what if theres a resistor across the cut you made? across the coil? what happens to the magnet? to the lenz reactions aka eddy currents? what is current, what is voltage, anyway? when you start to get an idea of that, you might see these videos for what they really are. trash. they all do the same thing and fail to show anything at all of any merit, and they all just go over the same basic BS... no more. yknow whats sad? that youtube proliferates all these half baked ideas based on miseducation and lack of knowledge on basic fundamental principles... this video was another demonstration of how not to do things, half understood principles, with no attempt to apply well over a century of acquired human knowledge and experience. "just wave magnets (of unknown strength? with no thought of reluctance or the most efficient magnetic circuit?) past some wires (of no given size, length, resistance) wound into coils (of no known inductance or turns) and generate electricity! wow! its magic! and and and... its axial flux!!!! and i used a full bridge rectifier, and made yet another explanation of how a rectifier works... like there arent enough already... and i made sure i had an animation or two..." whatever. i guess im just a troll... :D
@Ed.R
@Ed.R Жыл бұрын
I think has channel is best avoided, its full of BS as he's only into KZbin for the views and money.
@strawman9410
@strawman9410 Жыл бұрын
An even easier build and more powerful is Robert Murray Smith thunderbolt generator. Think he got 150V out of it. Really impressive. Just went round the bolts in a big circle. Easier than his serpentine. With offset magnets to reduce the drag.
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 Жыл бұрын
@@strawman9410 150v into what LOAD? what resistance? how many amps? how many WATTS? and how much power did it take to SPIN? how EFFICIENT was it? did he talk about that? did he mention that? did he test that? 150V means nothing. theres a potential difference of 150v or so from my head to my feet, atmospheric electricity. doesnt do much, does it?
@strawman9410
@strawman9410 Жыл бұрын
@@paradiselost9946 go check his upload called THUNDERBOLT all the information you want
@hallenb328
@hallenb328 Жыл бұрын
You didn't show the schematic for your series+parallel arrangement of the coils. The output of each coil will be AC, but at different phases from one another. If you have several out of phase coils in parallel, a lot of wasted current will be running between each coil and the mathematical sum of the voltages will go to the "output" of the group. You will generate (example) 10 kW of power but only be able to make use of 3kW. This will heat up the coils more than you probably expect and you'll have to derate the current capacity of the wires. A way to fix this is if you have a fullwave bridge on each coil, and you can combine the bridge output in series and/or parallel to your liking to get a more efficient generator. [There are other ways too.]
@phazephlux3260
@phazephlux3260 3 ай бұрын
I built this and it works amazingly after a little bit of tweaking. It outputs 38 V at max.And about fourteen volts at an average spin
@DiyEcoProjects
@DiyEcoProjects Жыл бұрын
10:38 HI TIM ~ i recommend charging power blocks first, then your phone off a power block. That way you can avoid the jagged signal which is likely to kill your phone. All the best
@p1ayM0NKEY
@p1ayM0NKEY 9 ай бұрын
Now do a portable bicycle generator
@Vegetable-Jesus
@Vegetable-Jesus 7 ай бұрын
"please"
@mayday8443
@mayday8443 7 ай бұрын
Imagine an electric bike you could charge by pedaling it 🤯
@Vegetable-Jesus
@Vegetable-Jesus 7 ай бұрын
@@mayday8443 that's already a thing
@lawrence1md
@lawrence1md 9 ай бұрын
You should have put coils on both sides of the magnet array
@FieldBoy111
@FieldBoy111 7 ай бұрын
What would that do
@lawrence1md
@lawrence1md 7 ай бұрын
@@FieldBoy111 it would either double the current or double the voltage depending on how you electrically connect them
@jonathanfernando-k3b
@jonathanfernando-k3b 5 ай бұрын
If u think about this type of self electrical generation its hella genius, cause ur eliminating a whole lot of lossy steps for power generation cause ur literally converting what u eat and drink into electrical energy.And the other big bonus is that it is enviromentally beneficial no pesky co emissions to worry about
@stevenschnepp576
@stevenschnepp576 2 ай бұрын
If all you're powering is an LED light, sure!
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 Жыл бұрын
How incredibly generous of you! Looks like a really nice design, thanks for sharing.
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator Жыл бұрын
This "Hank Kranken Generator" is neat project with a simple easy to understand design. Just in time for winter, should the electric go out. ;) A leg powered crank could allow producing greater amount of power, or allow longer sessions as leg muscles are more stronger than arm or wrist muscles.
@thatguychris5654
@thatguychris5654 10 ай бұрын
They should have one of these in every school's science class. When kids understand how much effort it takes to power something, they might appreciate how energy dense fossil fuels are.
@viermidebutura
@viermidebutura Жыл бұрын
One thing i noticed among all DIY generators videos is no matter how nicely looking the generator is made it always fails in the magnetic circuit part thus the generator will always run with an abysmal efficiency
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Nobody ever seems to have the foggiest about magnetics design.
@mylittleparody2277
@mylittleparody2277 Жыл бұрын
Well then, please do enlight us and teach how to make more efficient generators.
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 Жыл бұрын
@@mylittleparody2277 get rekt, people pay me for things like that
@mylittleparody2277
@mylittleparody2277 Жыл бұрын
@@godfreypoon5148 Then stop yelling at free content if you are not willing to give freely yourself...
@Rose-yx6jq
@Rose-yx6jq 2 ай бұрын
Now if you atrach this to a steam engine you've got a very simple power station.
@ankiesiii
@ankiesiii Жыл бұрын
Ive been on youtube since 2005, and this was probably coolest video ive ever seen.
@fabiant.2485
@fabiant.2485 8 ай бұрын
I think the most ergonomically convenient version of this would be to power it with a foot pedal. Plus maybe a built in flywheel to even out the effort required to keep it spinning. That way you could operate it while sitting and have your hands free for other tasks.
@thatonneguy
@thatonneguy Жыл бұрын
I feel like the maker community is going down a very predictable path, and I'm finally starting to catch up. About 10 minutes before this vid popped up for me, I was wondering if this exact thing would be possible. Every time I think "I wonder if this is possible", I discover it was already done quite some time ago. I'm only 6 days late for this one, and it's the first time I've seen your channel. If I'm correct.... are we really about to be printing clean energy with 3d printers? I'm stoked.
@jarateman6427
@jarateman6427 Жыл бұрын
If course its possible people have made gens like this for years by using bikes + and alternators. Its all the same. Turn it using wind,water,hamsters etc
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 11 ай бұрын
0 electricity blender
@edwardp7725
@edwardp7725 8 ай бұрын
Everytime I think im smart I open up youtube and get humbled
@samirsragegaming1353
@samirsragegaming1353 7 ай бұрын
Fr man
@oylesine285
@oylesine285 6 ай бұрын
This platform breaking my hopes. Feeling so dump.
@tulsatrash
@tulsatrash Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a pedal powered generator could let you run a modem and gaming laptop. New definition of sweaty gamer.
@SmartZero-f8e
@SmartZero-f8e 11 ай бұрын
Yes it does. 120W in total is possible @ 12V!
@hooverity
@hooverity 5 ай бұрын
This is actually pretty sick. You should make the hand crank detachable and make a lil water wheel to generate power
@biervampir6
@biervampir6 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, how about a bicycle pedal powered generator that supports USB-C PD? I could imagine charging a large Powerbank or maybe a laptop directly while sitting on a chair and using your legs. Could be a nice gadget for camping or survival stuff or so.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R Жыл бұрын
Pedal powered generators are cool I've made a few in the past. If you connect it to a 12V battery it's easy to find regulators and chargers to power all sorts.
@Spedley_2142
@Spedley_2142 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see if you can engineer it for using leg muscles instead of hand. Hooking it to your shoe and hanging it from your belt would allow you to use the far larger muscles in your leg. Charging at battery bank at 12V and 5A could be done in a few minutes but would give a whole days mobile phone charge.
@InAJamAgain
@InAJamAgain Жыл бұрын
FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER
@MeixingYip
@MeixingYip 5 ай бұрын
2:30 Could someone please explain to me why the amount of turns in a coil affect the outcoming voltage? Thank you!
@J0HD0H
@J0HD0H 4 ай бұрын
The more wire around it lets the magnets accelerate more electrons than if it was just a bit of wire (don’t take it from me tho I’m not 100% sure lol)
@derklempner
@derklempner 11 ай бұрын
I like this build. As for not wanting to crank the generator for more than a few minutes at a time, you could solve that by converting it into a pedal crank and use your legs/feet instead.
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 Жыл бұрын
yes, it's a hand crank generator. They've been around since the late 1950's. Not practical at all for charging a smartphone
@SmartZero-f8e
@SmartZero-f8e 11 ай бұрын
I can push out easily ~60 W with handcranking. I can charge 3 phones/hour with 60 watts via USB. so it IS practical to have tech like that. Especially since hand-crankers are cheap. they cost only 100$, but are really quite powerful. Imagine you would have no house. You could power nearly everyhing that way. Price is: the pedal-generators are expensive. So with this lowend 5W/10W-Handcranker here you can really have "fun", charging just one phone/hour. It wouldn´t even be fully charged in one hour. But on my handcrankers you can charge so much more and on my pedal-generator you can even charge 4 TABLETS/hour. This assumes a 36Wh-battery used in each tablet. 4 tablets equals 160Wh. 10% power-loss (160W/hour - 10% = 144Wh left netto after USB-conversion = 4 x 36Wh for each tablet 36Wh). My Pedal-Generator can do PD and enables superfast-charging via 12V-Cigarette-Ligher Plug. 10% USB-loss is only because i use a GAN-capable Superfast-charging Cigarette plug.
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 11 ай бұрын
@@SmartZero-f8e you make no sense. The most anyone can generate from hand-cranking would be 5 to15 watts. That means for every hour of continuous hand cranking you can run your laptop for about 6 to 10 minutes, or smartphone for about 16 min. You'd have to continuously crank most of your life away in order to regularly use any tech. So, silly person, you'd better get cranking, lol
@SmartZero-f8e
@SmartZero-f8e 11 ай бұрын
No. Most hand-crankers today can handle 30-40 Watts. Not 10-15 Watts like you claimed. You get this only with 12V output though, as with USB-output 50% of watts is lost because of voltage-conversion. That´s a user-problem though if he wants to charge via USB. I don´t use USB-charging in most cases so i don´t have this problem. My handcrankers can even handle ~50 W max. Though with these old motors the resistance is very high, so you can only reach 40W on these realistically with human hands. I use a pedal-cranking device where i use HANDS instead of feet. I get easily 60-80W here via hands, since my hands have really gotten very powerful in the las 6 monhs. But my pedal-generator can handle up 200W. And realistic are 120W for me currenly/hour.
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 11 ай бұрын
@@SmartZero-f8e ....you're a dingbat
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 11 ай бұрын
@@SmartZero-f8e you babble a lot
@maikolverasson1735
@maikolverasson1735 11 ай бұрын
I had nothing to do with electronics so far in my life, so this was super fun to watch!
@TheRedRobin96
@TheRedRobin96 Жыл бұрын
I know it's not producing a lot of power but I feel like something like this should be in every household.
@Timothymukansi
@Timothymukansi 5 ай бұрын
I immediately thought of coupling this on a bicycle wheel and powering rear and front lights (and maybe some LEDs on the spokes too for aesthetics). Well done on the POC
@AKATEATime
@AKATEATime 11 ай бұрын
The increase in resistance to turning it with a load is exactly how regenerative braking works.
@heikoschwertner1050
@heikoschwertner1050 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, from Switzerland for this video. Clear and easy to understand. I try to build this modell with my 3D printer.
@carlosrodrigues145
@carlosrodrigues145 10 ай бұрын
im new to 3d printing and wanted to try this out, but im confused on the coils. if there are 8 coils and you have 2 soldered in series and 4 in parrallel, what do i do with the last 2 coils?
@emanuelmalm9076
@emanuelmalm9076 9 ай бұрын
Theyre all soulder togheter so put 2 and 2 togheter so you get four series coils and then solder those togheter in parralel. Im no electrician tho.
@NakedSageAstrology
@NakedSageAstrology 9 ай бұрын
You're amazing thank you! I want to print this so my son and I can learn how different sized coils, gear ratios, wire gauge, magnet placement and number of magnets affect the output.
@MMPowerCafe
@MMPowerCafe Ай бұрын
Thank you for showing us this amazing unique 3d-print project dealing with a subject I love to experiment with myself. I will most likely find it easier to start turning compared to others because the coils are air-core, (or to be more accurate: Space-core)? What makes this such a cool project for the exploring student of electromagnetic physics? A: It is the plug-in coil design which lends itself particularly well as a standard platform, easily reproducible in every physics lab at school or home, upon which many people can co-Lab-orate and compare results among their experimenter peers. For that experimenting purpose, to save time and effort, only one unique coil need be built and inserted. Then when the preferred coil configuration is identified, its superior output (Amps x Volts= Watts) can be multiplied with building all the coils similarly. Later, because its 3-d dimensions are already on the computer, it can be more easily rescaled to provide the power requirements of any device appliance you want. What other configurations might be tested? We see here a change in wire thickness (gauge, AWG), a thinner longer wire being able to produce higher voltages, but at a lessor Amperage of electron Current because of the increase in total Ohms of Resistance to that electron current. You may also have fun experimenting with another curious configuration: the bi-filer wound connected in series coil that Nikola Tesla invented in patent US512340. Also, his center-tapped, oppositely wound half's coil is interesting.
@henforli
@henforli Жыл бұрын
Cool project! How about improving the design with a planar gear in line with the axel. Device would be more compact, more stable, more solid and you could make the non-crank side grippable by the other hand. And as other mentioned pop some super capacitors or lipo in the unit with a charging regulator and a usb plug (even better a multi-voltage USB-C plug) in addition to “raw” output. Next step would be to make the hand crank interchangeable with a pulley. Combined with a make shift water wheel and semi elastic cord you have a small ad-hoc hydro-power generator. Next step would then be an interchangeable and foldable wind propeller…😊
@philochristos
@philochristos 9 ай бұрын
If you attached that to a stationary bike, you could charge your stuff a lot easier and get a workout at the same time.
@anrchannel6341
@anrchannel6341 Жыл бұрын
Totally awesome. Alot of kids can learn how generator works.
@Devappl187
@Devappl187 10 ай бұрын
is it possible to put like 5 of these side by side all connected to one crank?
@quellenathanar
@quellenathanar 11 ай бұрын
I have a question. Would it be better to have the coils wound around an iron core? I realize this would cause more "cogging", and certainly more stress on the rotor and stator plates, but my intuition tells me you would energize the coils with quite a bit more power.
@ThisIsNotADrell
@ThisIsNotADrell Жыл бұрын
Could it be improved even more, to a hand-held device just like a phone, or is this the limit of it's size and it's capacity for generating enough power? Can the hand crank be replaced with other mechanical leverage like the ones sued in old sewing machines, or like the ones in hand-held self-generating flashlights? I'm dying to know.
@jayabratabiswas01
@jayabratabiswas01 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom for sharing a beautiful project... 👍👍
@sullychow4123
@sullychow4123 6 ай бұрын
Super cool, hope you make more videos expanding on this. Foot pedals etc.
@AtkataffTheAlpha
@AtkataffTheAlpha 11 ай бұрын
As someone who likes to fidget, this is pretty neat but also has a function that i can use to power or charge something. Also how simple generators really are.
@AttilioG
@AttilioG Ай бұрын
Parabéns !! Um excelente vídeo e altamente didático. Obrigado pela postagem !!! Mas o que aconteceria se acoplado à uma bike !?
@thedarkknight1971
@thedarkknight1971 Жыл бұрын
11:46 - You COULD connect the generator to a big blade prop on a pole in your garden to charge your phone! Especially with the winds we've been having recently! 🤔😏😉👍 😎🇬🇧
@apollo7557
@apollo7557 6 ай бұрын
It would be sick to have a much higher gear reduction, and connect it to a bike sprocket! I imagine this would be very handy in a power outage lol
@grahamcartwright3632
@grahamcartwright3632 7 ай бұрын
I can hear Medhi saying "FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!" in my head
@cosmiccrunch8591
@cosmiccrunch8591 Жыл бұрын
Awesome project! I'd convert this over to foot pedal power for a more effortless, handsfree charging system.
@PepiczekKnedliczek
@PepiczekKnedliczek 10 ай бұрын
Hello, great job and a very well-made and objective film. Fantastic attention to detail. Way to go!
@RWBHere
@RWBHere Жыл бұрын
Nice one, Tim! Next up, you could waterproof it, add it to a bicycle, give the phone a higher current charger and recharge the battery from flat during a 1 hour cycling session, using your legs instead of your arms.
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