Tinted Clear Base Coat Version | I Quit My Job

[@Porphis-Group]

Hi Paul, your spraying was perfect as always, and I'm glad that our product is in your hands for what it should be. ps: Good luck with your work on behalf of the porphis brand! Good people shine wherever they are!😉😉😉😉

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@Porphis-Group thank you, I really appreciate that. Your spray guns are amazing and I will be buying more, I really want to try the PRD 627 vs type. Keep up the good work 👏 👏👏

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

That hood (bonnet) should have been blended as well..... I know for a fact that it dodnt match...... Good for you for walking away from that shop. I walk away too when they just dont get it....... BLEND IT & SEND IT !!!!

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@thistledewoutdoors3331 yea I totally agree mate sometimes you have to walk away.

[@kseries20-24only]

Thanks for sharing, great technique on gun!

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@kseries20-24only thanks I appreciate that 🙏

[@sphdg]

Good luck at the new place brother!

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@sphdg thank you 👍

[@richardbusby7141]

They should have got a demonstrator to show you how their products work

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@richardbusby7141 I'm OK with the products. My issue was colour matching, the camera said it was a match and when you sprayed it, it was different. They had their camera replaced while I was there, and the rep came out a few times. Nothing changed tho. I asked how to get the best out of visualise but it wasn't much better.

[@Ulr149tw21]

Wonderful work thank you so much

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@Ulr149tw21 no worries thanks for watching 👍

[@glen4407]

Glad you found a better shop. Have to find the easiest paint to use for production work. I just put up a short on a trouble color I have. The fender in it we had painted and the camera still picked the wrong variant when I painted it again. I'm hourly so I can waste time doing sprayouts, the paint we use is less than half of axalta cromax pro. I demo'd it.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@glen4407 The paint can make colour matching better or worse. The reason I sing the praises of spies hecker and standox is the camera is really accurate, if it tells you it's good then it's good and I can trust it. Just saw your short. There are quite a lot of variants. Those last 3 looked much closer than the first 3

[@glen4407]

@@paulphillipspaintwork I always joke that the beep when the camera is done should say good luck. The paint rep just tells me I need to learn how to pick the right one. I use the one it says is the best. Global match is never good. I just wish they made color decks.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@glen4407 lol everyone said to me "just pick what you think is best" the problem was I didn't have time to make a spray out prior to painting so I didn't have a starting point. I.e it needs to be redder or bluer ect.

[@srodgie]

Hello Paul, Great video, mate. The purpose of a "foreman" in ANY industry is to give advice and provide help! In your case, it was about the paint product itself..... NOT on how to paint a car! Fairplay to you for moving on! I'd love to spend one week with you.... my skillset would increase by 200%!🤣🤣 Have a great day, mate, Steve 😎👍

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@srodgie thanks Steve, yea it was a strange feeling to not fit in like but hey on to better things now. That would be cool, but honestly painting is mostly experience on the gun. And knowing how to fix stuff that goes wrong 👍

[@JonathanCox94]

Good job Paul, I have just done that Vauxhall/ Peugeot 3 stage blue the other day in max Meyer and I found the mid stage came out a bit patchy, I think skinny almost wet coats like you done is the way to go, slower and loading on it seems to make it patchy Still not a fan of base mid stages though especially without a modifier it’s a lot of layers to dry and can dry back Hope you find somewhere good in the near future it’s the trouble I have when I tried to find places it’s all about the people in there

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@JonathanCox94 thanks mate, I really appreciate that. I have found a good place, close to home and everyone is really friendly. Which is a massive plus. I prefer the tinted clear coat version of these colours. I completely get what you are saying. If you have to put a lot of base on like that, it's probably worth baking for 10 -15 mins before applying clear coat to try and avoid dye back. 👍

[@sbr1160]

In every company you'll get the know it all that knows nothing, I'm a welder and had a carpenter telling me how to do my job, the worst bit was he continued to send me dimensions to work to, and when the work came out the wrong size blame me for it being wrong, but when measured and presented with HIS dimensions on paper I got released from my duties for calling him out in the workshop haha Better off working in a place that appreciates your skill levels and experience.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@sbr1160 that's bull sh*t man you don't need that at work. I always joke "what do I know, I've only been doing it for 20 years." And I do asked other people's opinions and for help if I need it. But sometimes they know best 🤣 I did get advice from a painter once who said "if they tell you to do something a certain way and you know it's wrong, just do it because it's their mistake. If you then do it your way and there is an issue for whatever reason it's your falt for not listening, so put the responsibility on them"

[@sbr1160]

@@paulphillipspaintwork That painters advice was spot on, the reason I got laid off was the stupid carpenter was good friends of the boss, the boss even knew he was in the wrong haha so better of our and sane than in a job and ready to cause physical harm to a tosser.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@sbr1160 🤣 did you find somewhere better to go? Things like that are usually a blessing in disguise

[@sbr1160]

@@paulphillipspaintwork yeah opened a vape shop in Belgium, at that point I'd had enough of working as a welder in the UK thanks to Tom the twat haha

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@sbr1160 that's awesome 👏👏👏 congratulations. I kinda want out of the trade, I started PainTeX selling paint products to painters using my knowledge of the trade. I'm not sure I can work for people lol. I've had enough bad bosses lol

[@Sovereign80]

I agree with so much of this video... Had me nodding away..

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@Sovereign80 thanks, sometimes you got to say what's on your mind

[@robborobbo8174]

One of the main issues you had here is you should have put down the correct grey shade basecoat down first over the primer. This would have given a feathered edge not the harsh edge of the primer. It is another process and material but will give easier coverage in low coverage colours in PPG.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@robborobbo8174 who ever was priming the car had the responsibility to camera the car and then use the grey shade that was suggested so it should always be the correct grey shade. But I have heard guys the the gunman complaining that ppg doesn't always give the correct grey shade.

[@class5bodyworks]

​@@paulphillipspaintwork I'll agree with both of you here. I'll either use a spectral gray sealer or base coat first. But I have been burned on a PPG ground coat recommendation. It was a complete 67 Mustang. They suggested a number 6 on a red pearl which took a third coat for coverage. If I had used a number 5 or 4 probably two coats amd done.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@class5bodyworks I've heard quite a few people have been caught out by the ppg grey shade suggestion.

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Hi Paul, superb video and for me the voiceover from the top of your head is far better than a scripted one as you tell us what's going on and what you are doing at that point in time👌 I think you did the right thing getting out of that place, yeah the paint system didn't suit your painting style but there was more to it than that, at some places there seems to be a lot of bickering and backbiting going on which to me is just down right childish as these people should be professional adults so why not act like it 🤷‍♂all of this just makes for an unhappy working environment so I think the people loosing out here is the company👍 I hope your new place works out for you, we know the paint system is ok so lets hope the workforce is just as good🙏👍

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@JohnWD40TC02 thanks mate, yea it's a shame. It wasn't a bad place, but you would the we would all work together for the good of the team, but there was none of that there. I enjoy doing the voice overs that way but sometimes I forget that some people may be new to the channel and might be wanting to learn and I'm just rambling on about something else lol.

[@Ontheroadbrogymgo]

That place sounds like it wasn’t a good place to work. To many bosses.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@Ontheroadbrogymgo it was alright and if I give it enough time I'm sure I'd get the hang of ppg but nobody was really that helpful in there and that just compounded the problems.

[@adampye905]

Nothing worse when you don't gel with the other painters

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@adampye905 totally agree if we spend 8-9 hrs together per day we have to get along

[@gaacko]

Paul your older videos with the green skates and runners in the oven, Was that a Gemini shop?

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

Yes mate

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

PPG is a 3 coat paint !!!! Spies hecker has the 1.5 coat system but it sometimes requires 2+..........

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@thistledewoutdoors3331 yea I agree but 98% of spies hecker colours aren't an issue so in faster paint environments it allows the painter to just get on woth what he need sto do. 👍

[@theirishman088]

1 and a half my a$$. It's a scam to get companies to use there crap. It's so thick it takes forever to dry. I never used solvent and I would rather use that than the crap waterborne paint that's out there. I used ppg and we had cars in and out the door in no time. Trust me when you switch you will be begging for ppg

[@MichaelNeiland]

We use ppg paint at work crap gone to dupoint bloody good paint

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@MichaelNeiland to be completely honest I haven't heard many good things about ppg lol

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

Did you spray over a sanded primer ??? Them edges look pretty solid and not transparent.... You can always spray a scratch coat of base over that primer or sealer for coverage and then go into your final color.....

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@thistledewoutdoors3331 yes it was sanded primer, we don't tend to seal stuff much in the UK, but I can see a need for it with ppg lol.

[@sphdg]

Ppg enviobase is definitely not a one coat system. All those chips in the cabinet are supposedly 2 coverage coats 1 drop coat. I call bull on that alittle bc some are 3 coats or 4. But all these transparent colors are not 1 coat. In my computer system 493 doesn't say one visit modifier I think someone manually entered that. Even in p sheets I don't see anything about it calling it a one visit modifier does that color call for g5? Alos one more thing i got bit on a gm tinted clear ladt week bc i didnt seal my blend pannel and i unmaasked it didnt even look like i blendd it.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

There were no colour chips at this shop, we were using the camera with the latest computer updates. The one visit modifier is T4900 there are videos about it on KZbin. The grey shade on the car is the shade the computer suggested for the colour we were applying. Also I don't understand why I would seal anything as the correct primer shade was applied, it's just adding an extra step for no reason. In the UK we only put sealer on new panels. I have never seen anyone seal over primer?

[@grantssmartrepairs]

sounds like a shite work environment and poor management mate should be a team and all help each other, i could not work for a boss i have not got it in me 😂😂 great video mate 👍👍👍👍

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@grantssmartrepairs thanks mate, that's partly why I have started PainTeX so I can work for myself. I joke that I'm unemployable in that sense.

[@BoundByHonor700]

This system looks headache i orefer tinted clear or the 3 stage but unfortunately with sikkens its no tinted clear.. i did a 46v soul red for the first time in the 3 stage bumper and wing blend and came out perfect match its not that difficult aslong as you cover your mid coat over the ground effectively. By the way one of our polisher just gets on with the polishing no dramas most jobs are clean and shiny but the other polisher crys about a few nibs and wants gun finish every single time lol as you were talking about the trizact part it made me laugh 😂

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@BoundByHonor700 I like sikkens it's good stuff. But I am starting to worry about the industry the dinosaurs won't change and there isn't many people coming into the trade who want to learn. We all would like a perfect gun finish with no nibbs but it's just no realistic they do happen from time to time. I think you have been spoiling your polisher and he expects to much now lol

[@orkengoss1315]

With your skills why don't you open your own bodyshop mate

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@orkengoss1315 thanks I really appreciate that, just the initial cost of a big ol compressor and a booth is gonna be a huge investment then the paint schemes are pricey too. It's a lot to pay out.

[@jamessharr8095]

I would have to disagree regarding standox standoblue be ing better than ppg, I used ppg for 15 years and loved it, now been using standoblue for the last 3 year and i would have to say ppg wet on wet is better the base coat is so much nicer/ easier it apply and the lacquer 8138 is one of the best lacquer out there. I've have more problems with standoblue colours in the last 3 years than I did in the 15 years using ppg, as far a support goes with standox its non existant, after contacting the tech guy 10 calls later basically ends up being a waste of time and nothing gets sorted. Ppg were spot on , had a great rapor with the tech guy always answered my calls and came up with a solution when needed. If I had a colour that was that bad I would cut a piece of the old panel and send it to the colour lab for it to be matched , normally done within a week. Unfortunately standox have nothing like this and I'm just left to try and get by with what ever shade is on the computer. So for me ppg all day long

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@jamessharr8095 I literally have the same experience in reverse. I can tag you in a standoblue video where I was sharing how I get excellent results with the camera. We hardly ever had colour issues using that method.

[@jamessharr8095]

@@paulphillipspaintwork I've use the camera and it gives me say 97 do a spray out card and the colours miles off, especially black and greys. I did toyota 202 last week it gave me 99.7 and it was really gray, I did 3 more spray out cards on different shade and all miles off.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@jamessharr8095 have your recalibrated the camera? When it asks for the blue effect tile, scan the white until it says there is a problem (3 times) then it asks you to scan the white then the blue (do that as normal) we realised our camera hadn't asked to scan the white tile for 3 months and were noticing our colour weren't match well any more. Recalibrated this way and they were perfect again.

[@jasonevans6720]

Sorry but PPG is the most over complicated and overstated system out there

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@jasonevans6720 I just couldn't match the stuff. The visualise said it was good then when I sprayed it, it was pants lol

[@Ontheroadbrogymgo]

Absolutely 💯! Try spraying other brands, and you will quickly find out that PPG is overpriced, and other brands are more user friendly.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@Ontheroadbrogymgo totally agree 👍🏻

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

PPG is like every other paint out there. Spies has more color chips to match from but,, PPG has us custom tinting ourselves......

[@robborobbo8174]

This is why I went on to Baslac

[@ANDY-we7mr]

Paul is that the iwatta 1.3 WS400

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@ANDY-we7mr no mate, I don't have any iwatas

[@lesliwells5433]

PORPHIS PRD 'S ARE AWESOME PRD 715 IS FASTER❤❤❤

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@lesliwells5433 I have the 715 too, I really like that for base coat.

[@lesliwells5433]

@paulphillipspaintwork ME too

[@lesliwells5433]

PUT ASIDE TO GET YOUR OWN SHOP,OR A BIGGER YARD AND START THEIR, YOU GOT THIS

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@lesliwells5433 absolutely that's part of the reason I started PainTeX, I did paint a lot for myself a few years back crash helmets for racing drivers they were really cool. If you look back at my 1st videos you a few of them 😎 see what I can really do with paint

[@lesliwells5433]

@@paulphillipspaintwork COOL DEAL 😎 👌

[@timdeakin2524]

Work somewhere that doesn’t use ppg 👍

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@timdeakin2524 lol that's what I've done.

[@timdeakin2524]

@@paulphillipspaintwork ppg is a terrible paint system. The only reason anyone believes it’s good is because it’s extremely expensive!!

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@timdeakin2524 expensive doesn't always mean good lol

[@lesliwells5433]

YEAH MAN, THOSE OLD DINOSAURS ,THOSE T-REX'S WILL EAT YOU ALIVE MAN, they just can't see change,BLIND AS A BAT😂😂😂😂❤

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@lesliwells5433 yea it's a shame, but there is just no talking to those kinds of people 💪

[@lesliwells5433]

@paulphillipspaintwork I know, I worked for a oilfield company 12yrs.,same mindset,wouldn't listen to me, THEY LOST a 200 million dollar contract,because they didn't want to PAY ME,I LOST A JOB,THEY FIRED ME,BUT THEY LOST THE COMPANY,Do that make any sense, SO VERY SAD,what hurts the most, Many FAMILIES out of WORK.......

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@lesliwells5433 yea it's sad, especially as these places have so much potential if they would just listen.

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

Slower is faster in the paint world.....

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

@@thistledewoutdoors3331 totally agree

[@martynrudd6070]

your getting problems firstly your rushing it too wet too soon, wrong primr colour grey is terrible, drop some colour in the primer red or something to get it close, thats why you got coverage problems, plus the cap was black so that will be different, didnt you learn keep the under colour close to the sparyed colour. dear me poor aplication here mate.

[@paulphillipspaintwork]

You have some valid points, possibly to wet to soon but the rep didn't mention it to me when they were out to see how I was getting on, this would only cause dye back if it was the issue. The primer was the shade suggested on the computer for that colour, and water base paint and solvent don't mix so I cant tint the primer unless ppg have something that helps bind the two together that I don't know about as this is the first time using ppg. But no worries now as I have left this place and am back on the mighty Spies Hecker where know the system inside out.

[@martynrudd6070]

@@paulphillipspaintwork Unfortunately I find some reps havent a clue, they do a demo or tell you stuff about a product but are parrot fashion just saying what they been told, experience here is key. Any heavy pearl of certain colours need specific primers to give better coverage, My golden rule is the colour of the under paint decides the match lots of people dont get good colour match but use wrong primer colours, you cant go wrong with tinting primers with a colour similar to the final colour. It defo helps to get the coverage on the tricky colours like pearls and reds yellows, also I know you might have a few cars to paint in a day but as the artist here its your call put a light coat on first always then sit back see what ite like before you hit it again. I always dry blend and I noticed you did the blend first using a to of material, I mask off the blending panels then make sure the repair is covered then remove the masking and on the final pass float thee blend into the door lightly you used so much paint on the blend in my opinion. hope you are happier in the new job.