Tiny Bike...Big Decision (Brompton First Ride)

[@NottinghamshireMadness]

And thank you for a brilliant morning chatting and coffee, it was great to meet you

[@rizalsapi007]

It’s brilliant Andrew and Paul 🎉

[@Beamish32]

I think I just heard @Paul Messner lying about his inside leg measurement 🤣.

[@jhickman4735]

Lovely to see a proud Brit flying his flag too..

[@richardsracingmad]

@@NottinghamshireMadness nice bikes

[@ftmvanlieshout]

I have been bike packing / train packing with Brompton's for 20 years. I live in Holland, Wild camping forbidden, but most campsites are within 20 km of a station. Brompton's (folded) are free in the train. In a normal weekend I can go out on Friday after work, hit a camping before sundown, and relax until Sunday... What I can take with me is almost ultra light, ca 10kg on the front bag, don't use anything on the back but still need a backpack.

[@paulhumphrey3402]

Great video for years we have been using e-bikes carrying on the back of our campervan , because it was hassle to take off bike cover remove straps and remove bike locks we didn’t use them so much also because of the high value we had to carry gold secure locks which weighed as much as a small house . Now we just open the rear doors of our campervan and just unfold and cycle no need for locks most rides as the bikes come with us. We have so many people come up to for a chat about the bikes and owners of Bromptons saying how good they are . We absolutely love our Bromptons

[@WoBSpitta]

Just watch your film at the campsite, sitting in a Helinox chair next to my Durston tent, did 400km in the last four days on my Brompton with all the gear on board. It is a wonderful touring bike as well 😉

[@NottinghamshireMadness]

Wow that’s some tour, cool

[@Sunila_DragonladyCH]

I once fell off my bike when it was almost stopped, slipped on gravel. I hit my head pretty hard just from the fact I couldn't break my fall properly, and the little extra speed. I fell on the side, then my elbow and the momentum just had me tipping over on my head. Since then I never used a bike without a helmet. I have a cousin who is disabled after a car ran into him on his bike too. Concussions are not to be messed about with. Of course it's still a personal choice but it's not like falling when walking.

[@rundt7605]

@@Sunila_DragonladyCH you are right ,was watching Andrews video in the morning fell off my Brompton the same afternoon ruined an expensive helmet ,but head ok .

[@chrisbailey1966]

Yes, used to ride all the time without a helmet as that was normal - would never do that now. Personal choice but volunteering for Headway opened my eyes to the risk of even a very mundane ride can have.

[@noodlish]

Literally packing my Brompton for a weekend ride up the coast when this popped up

[@WiltshireMan]

Hahaaa Great to see Andrew on the channel:) You will never regret owning a Brompton, it's my go to bike if I have to go into town, get some shopping or visit the dentist and it's well capable of extended touring, but like all things one bike will never do everything. The Bromptons downfall is it's not great off road and the small tyres inflated to high pressures are not the most grippy, I've come off my Brompton twice now but no damage. Regarding helmets wear one on every ride, just a couple of weeks ago a good friend fell off her bike and banged her head hard, she wasn't riding very fast at all. Fortunately she was wearing a helmet which broke in 3 places and probably saved her life. If you can afford the Titanium version you won't regret it but a lot of money, Titanium does have some very good properties for a bike frame, When I go Brompton bike packing I have the large bag on the front and a 35 litre rucksack on the back. Check out another KZbin channel called "Brompton Traveller" for any more info :)

[@ifitrollsrideit530]

Loved this one, Andy is a really interesting chap. Can't wait to see your first bike packing video.

[@mariojavier1623]

The front bag makes the Brompton more stable. I climbed Whistler in BC on my Brompton C line. I am now intrigued in buying the T line. Thanks for the video.

[@iainamurray]

I once travelled from Poole to Newcastle on a Brompton. I rode to the train station and went to Southampton Airport. Packed it in an IKEA Dimpa bag with all my stuff protecting it. Flew to Newcastle, unpacked the Brompton and rode to the hotel. Easy Peasy! Didn’t even break a sweat!

[@d33671]

Tell them its a mobility aid and get it on for free ;)

[@rizalsapi007]

Welcome to the club 😊 Andrew Marshall mentioned to me yesterday, you coming to see his bike.. thanks for sharing.

[@kevinmcguire6774]

I’ve just purchased my first Brompton, and it’s a brilliant piece of kit!

[@muskadobbit]

I love my Brommy. It’s red and I call it Mighty Mouse. You need two, one for you, one for Jo. You’d look some bold, the two of you, bopping around town.

[@GeekfromYorkshire]

At least 2. One a super light to carry into shops and handle gentle hills, another with a rack and custom wide range gears to go bike touring. A 3rd for +other.

[@NottinghamshireMadness]

@@muskadobbit When Paul left that was my parting comment!

[@obarwell]

Bought a Brompton a month ago to commute in Bethesda, MD, USA. Brilliant.

[@jorgeantonioruizvargas7573]

Good, good video. From Cucuta city Colombia 🇨🇴 South America

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

Brompton delivers an "Insert" for the saddle which assures that the sadle high is the wanted each time! It needs a measuring (described in the Users Guide, but also shown by Hannah, from Brilliant Bikes in a film here!) the first time to be cut to length, inside the frame! But then no fidling! As a tall guy I just pull my seat post out to full stop! Finn. Denmark

[@GeekfromYorkshire]

I have been bike touring with a tent with a Brompton for 20 years. I just replaced my 2012 Tarpent Notch with newer version. The Brompton fits in the vestibule. I modified my Brompton to have wider range of gears and I'd regularly to a Lakes loop of train to Windermere, bike to Langdale, camp at NT Langdale, bike into Little Langdale, push bke up Wrynose, bike to Hardknot, push up Hardknot, bike down Eskdale to Wasdale Head, camp at NT Wasdale, bike via Ennerdale, Winlatter Pass, camp at Braithwaite, then bike back to Windermere and train home. Camping kit the Notch, Thermarest Xtherm, PHD Minim 300, Jetboil Sol Ti. If it's summer I use a Tarptent Protrail instead, roomier inside, less-warm tent. You'll need 2 Bromptons, one optimised for superlight about-town, carrying into shops, good for train journeys carrying down long train carriages, and another optimised for camp-touring with more gears and a rack to hold sleeping bag + airbed. My current about-town is the T-line 4-speed, replaced a 2007 2sp. My bike-touring is a 2011 6sp + Schlumpf Mountain Drive. Luggage: put heavy stuff in front, I put tent, cooking, food, water, back I put sleeping bag, airbed. In summer I also strap a waterbottle to the seatpost.

[@gordonmculloch4904]

If you can afford one, buy the P-line 12-speed. The more gears the better. They are so handy. You can fling them in the boot and when you reach your destination pull it out and go sightseeing. I take it with me when I go car camping.

[@GeekfromYorkshire]

I got a Schlumpf Mountain Drive for my 12 speed. 15 inch bottom gear, go anywhere, even easier with a camping kit in front T-bag to stop the front wheel lifting off the ground.

[@UKIcarus]

Agree. The 12 speed is awesome. Did 367 miles on one in 24hrs

[@BUCKSHOTSTV]

@@UKIcaruswow that is absolutely incredible!

[@shaunhiggins1545]

Awesome video Paul, I've seen the fold in half bikes, but this is next level. Must be amazing for taking on a camp as you can carry it to something not too far from the path you cycle on.

[@adrianlw2750]

Big miles possible on a Brommie. I have an M6L with a 44T chainring which I bought new end 2019. How timely as in 2020 when roads were deserted, I covered over 5,000 very enjoyable hobby/leisure miles. Definitely the favourite bike in my collection (others are mountain, touring, & vintage sports-racer). Very handy for popping into town and not having to leave it anywhere.

[@taber247]

Great, an assured well looked after Brompton, from Nottingham Madness, whom I also follow. I know which one you bought as I watched the second vid first. Thanks again for sharing. Many days of enjoyment to come, and I can see you havevalready enjoyed it so far too. Take care. They are lively.

[@Dutcharmytent]

Been looking at used prices in the South for ages, very tempted, looking forward to seeing this video.

[@TiberiusWallace]

I love my Brompton. Best thing I've bought in years. It's over ten years old and I've been slowly blacking out all the silver bits. I did put the new type shifter/brake levers on that Brompton says you can't put on but I did. I was trying to get the cranks and pedals off earlier but bugger me if they won't move.

[@willkriel-hartley1156]

I love my Brompton. 10 min ride t’ train station in the morning. Bike by the side Of me on the train for an hour. 20 min ride t’office at the other end.

[@davetay44]

Not my kind of bike, but anything that gets people out pedalling is good by me. Nice one Paul!

[@chrispriddey4594]

Love my Brompton, brings the joy back to cycling! Join the ‘fold…you won’t regret it!

[@BlakeKlopper]

If you go bike packing on a Brompton, you can use the bike and a tarp to make a tent. It’s snug but it works.

[@GeekfromYorkshire]

I keep my Brompton in the vestibule of the Tarptnent Notch. Tight fit but perfectly if you get the telescopic seatpost so you can easily remove saddle then fits perfectly. Bike in one vestibule and other to get in/out.

[@barneysbimbles]

Great to see you getting into the Brommies Paul. Have taken mine on a few camping adventures and its a great way to camp. British engineering at its finest 👍

[@alexmorgan3435]

Brompton is the best ever machine I have ever bought. End of. Mine's a 6spd, red and black, 18 years old and still going strong in great condition. I have done many camping tours on it the UK, France, Spain and Gran Canaria on it. Great bikes.

[@carolinenicholsonphotography]

You cannot go wrong with these beautiful bikes. I’ve had several foldies and the Brompton is in a class of its own. My beautiful pink brommie is 15 years old and still pristine in every way and the most convenient bike to take anywhere. I’d recommend them to anyone. ❤

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

As a first when buying mine during Covid 19 in 2019, I gave it an Autopolish all over and found the small pieces of "clear tape" from the Factory useless and the one worn to the paint after two or three folds! So as a second I ordered a set of Protection plates, from China, so my bike is still as new, also with leather on its frame and stem post! Finn. Denmark

[@sallytrippass4700]

I have a C- line I got this as it’s got 6 gears and I live in Sheffield too so needed the extra gearing for all the hills!. Been contemplating chucking the helm 1 in the front bag and taking off to the coast and pitching overlooking the sea. It’s perfect for public transport but also nice to chuck in the boot park up and have a pootle.

[@fugdefano]

i bought a six speed, my daughter very quickly bought a b75. her husband soon sold his mountain bike than bought a six speed. i can fit all three in my nissan leaf boot easily. ps i converted mine to electric love it. and they are surprisingly good off road. and for camping get a trailer. Radical chubby made for the Brompton.

[@davidpalmer5290]

Very interesting video. Thanks for putting this out.

[@andyml1]

As a bit of a Brompton old hand I’d thoroughly encourage you to get a Brompton, you won’t regret it. My advice, if you’re touring with a load, is get the 6 speed with lowered gearing. For that sort of use the Schwalbe Marathon plus is probably a good idea. I don’t go out in to the wilds very often and I’ve been very impressed with Continental Contact Urban tyres. I think you’d be happy with the same ‘bars that Andrew has on his Bs. Happy riding. 👍

[@keithdainton6043]

Great video I'm feeling rather guilty because I got myself a Brompton A line but yet to take it out because I have 3 bikes

[@TGRacing]

If a B75 is still available it's a great first Brompton. Might need to add a couple of bits (e.g. bag mount bracket) but an entry-level gem

[@alexcarter8807]

It's called the A-Line now. Same bike.

[@gohumberto]

I rode with a fellow Brit (he was riding a Brommie) on Paris-Brest-Paris 1200km in 2015. OK, he said he'd never do it again, but he still managed approx 800 miles in 4 days. I quit after about 800km, and I was riding a carbon Road bike. (I did make it round in 2011 I hasten to add). Bromptons defy expectations and logic (I am also a Brompton owner, M3. I love it but I'm never doing PBP1200km on it. I bought the fabulous electric Swytch kit for it)

[@MichaelWilde.pushbikegraddad]

Welcome to the Brompton club, they are very addictive bikes

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

Amazing ❤️ it’s not much bigger than a kick scooter and way smaller than my Decathlon folding bike! No doubt they make a nice backpack for it 😊👍

[@carlconner1166]

Pure class this is like all the other vids thank you very much

[@Borovets2010]

Have 2 Brompton’s a C line and a CHPT3 v4, amazing bikes. About to bike pack from Kent to Somerset along the south coast on one.

[@AshleyIrons]

Good video that Paul. Very interesting. Another Notts lad here also working in Engineering.

[@KamilJay-ds2rs]

Well, it's too late. I've bought one already... C line 6 speed. Love this thing.

[@bobalinga]

I put my camping stuff on a Brompton. Can use the train to get somewhere then pedal off.

[@stevelindley2041]

Bags. There are dozens of alternatives. Not all Brompton. Many are totally waterproof. You can add rear rack bags and panniers. When you pick it up. Put the nose of the saddle over your shoulder.

[@teddybeargrylls6663]

Hi Paul, great vid. You’re talking my language now, bikes. When you get your brommy, you need to call a gathering for a ride in the countryside for Brompton owners. I’ll be first in line. Thanks to Andrew as well for his invitation and showing off his bikes. I’ve got a C line but im tempted to get the t line as well

[@Mat-kr1nf]

My father bought a couple of what were probably the original ones for the caravan which was basically our holiday accommodation growing up, back in maybe 1978 or so. I can’t remember if they had gears, if they did, they would have been a 3 speed hub gear. Pretty sure it didn’t have the little “trolley wheels” that come into play when it’s folded up though.🤔

[@SingaporeUntold]

I see the guy with a vincita bag. They have a whole system of bags that you can consider to fully utilize the bike

[@rundt7605]

Have a look at berm peak on his Brompton doing tricks in a bmx park ,tried to break bike ,didnt manage it 😂

[@SomewhereInTennessee]

That video was awesome! 😂😂😂

[@willkriel-hartley1156]

If you haven't done it already, fit a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres on them. I was frequently getting punctures with the Brompton standard tires that came with the bike. Switched to the marathon plus about 5 years ago and theyve been solid.

[@PaulMessner]

They should be arriving today 🚵‍♂️😄. Thank you

[@JS_1183]

I THINK THIS IS THE BEST CONTENT PAUL,, BIKING GOING TO CAMPING THATS NICE TO SEE THAT

[@dylanclements2485]

Love my Brompton, nice content 👍

[@marksmith566]

Great video Paul, nothing against Brompton’s but I would I have thought a Gravel bike would be more suitable for bike packing. It’s what most people use including your friend Sandy 👍

[@pootlingalong8928]

Ha ha, brilliant video and good to see Andrew who is an inspirational Brompton guy and helpful to everyone on all things Brompton related. Can’t wait to see which bike you pick, Paul and your first little bikepacking adventure! 😁👍🏻

[@jonathansapier7574]

Great video. I have 4 conventional bikes ( all have different a frame material) but going on trains is a pain and you can’t take a bike on the bus, as you know. I love the design and practicality of the Brompton. The only nightmare I can foresee from other videos is the rear tyre puncture. The process to change the wheel seems like the ultimate nightmare especially on the fly, on a cold wet day. Has this been an issue?

[@markd988]

great vid paul cant wait to see your new cycling videos , with that you can hop on a train and get off and cycle anywhere , coast to coast cycle ride coming up i can see 👍👍

[@markd988]

also have a look at sustrans routes , lots of traffic free cycling 👍👍

[@phillblake6829]

Love Nottinghamshire madness and love my Brompton Best product I ever owned

[@ed0078]

I watch Andrew’s channel all the time - Tucson, USA. My only suggestion is try not to touch the seat post because oil from your hand attaches to the pole and eventually coats the seat post sleeve making the seat slip more and more over time. If a build up has occurred the best fix is to remove the seat post entirely and clean the sleeve along with the pole with brake cleaner, a bottle brush and thin towel works best. Don’t think the sleeve needs to be replaced when the seat post begins to slip it’s probably just oil buildup.

[@littlechris5656]

These bikes look brilliant, think this might be my Christmas / birthday present! Just one point - the flag of the union was upside-down 😂

[@NottinghamshireMadness]

Google has the answer lol😊

[@Mat-kr1nf]

16:08 Have to say, I came off so many times as a kid and never hit my head, usually did a roll or sort of somersault, I always wear one now though, no point tempting fate after so many “good” rolls of the dice.😬

[@pootlingalong8928]

Could be that not wearing a helmet encourages you to protect your head instinctively in a fall - or not fall off in the first place 😁

[@SomewhereInTennessee]

You guys are making me want a Brompton so badly! 😂❤

[@JohnRichardson-v2l]

Susanna Thornton rides a brompton and wild camps on her KZbin channel (she dunt wear a helmet) helmets its choice...... 'Ull' east yorkshire.

[@mrwiggy25]

From Cropwell Bishop so the guys cool!! Guess where I grew up!

[@grahamramsay3402]

Load up the front with a bag on the luggage mount it will feel less twitchy.

[@MsLori62]

Get one. You’ll love it. I have three.

[@Tominthetent]

Dont worry about not having a helmet Paul Gramps wearing Flip Flops 🤣🤣💪 Great vid dude nice to see a good bike vid !

[@Dibble.officer]

Can you "bust out some moves" on the Brompton please...lol.. you're a star..👍

[@BinManSays]

Well well well look at you two boys saying all places I noo, I went t that clown college n I used to chill down bow-zer. I might ride a bigger bike but my riding buddies back in Sheffield and we're off to rivlin this weekend I can't wait

[@andrewbesford324]

Lovely bikes ,I've never heard of them , deffo you though , couldn't see myself buying one ,for too pricey for the use I'd get but very cool

[@peterrobertson8141]

How many Brompton's do you need? Guess that'll be N+1 (again!). 😊 Really enjoyable video Paul - and Andrew.

[@kevinseversonandhisvizslas8287]

I’m in the states and that is my favorite bike to ride!

[@DeanPeckett]

Hey Paul, enjoyed the video with Andrew and the Brompton collection. If you are considering buying a folding bike it might be worth looking at the new Fiildo X Folding Electric Bike, saw it online a few days ago and it’s looks great loving your content and honesty all best D

[@alexmorgan3435]

Ebikes are bad. Leg and lung power only.

[@glyn_mtn]

My and my mrs have Bromptons - hers is electric! During lockdown they were selling for stupid money

[@GGg-ic9ku]

What is the channel that your friend has? I’d like to see it he seemed to reference during the ride that he posts some maintenance videos. I’d like to take a peek at? Look forward to seeing your camping info later, do you want to do some camping on my new Brompton someday next year and look forward to seeing what you advise.

[@BorderRambler]

Go for it Paul , I got a C- line last year and I love it . Still to do a bike camp on it yet tho . Atb Dave 🚲⛺️👍🏻

[@PaulMessner]

Cheers Dave, Watched a load of you bike packing videos lately

[@BorderRambler]

@@PaulMessner loving the bike camps at the moment 🚲👍

[@Bigblueone]

You did very well not to fall off paul....as they feel skittish the 1st time you ride one ....did you come away with the green one ? Ive got 4 I'm 71 and I use a brommie almost every day ....great video really enjoyed it 👍

[@COYSMike]

Make sure you get one with the right gearing to get up those hills fully loaded

[@pootlingalong8928]

Or just get off and push. It’s all exercise and frankly nice to stretch the legs!

[@alexmorgan3435]

39T front chain ring.

[@matty741]

I love cycling but, have never used a Brompton. At first I thought they were just a daft gimmick, but then realised that actually, its a brilliant bit of kit. For me I've never really needed one. I have a roadie and an mtb and love cycling but I never get the train. Maybe one day I will, if my dream comes true of having my own bike repair, life style and apparel shop. On the helmet debate, I get all sodes of it. My issue is that my wife is a carer and has a client with a brain injury. The kind that he has can be caused by the slightest fall. I know it's not likely but to me it takes a couple of seconds to put one on and some of them look mint so why not. In Australia it's part of the law. Not sure we need that but they're so many people that dont wear them on longer rides that its just a bit daft. Obviously its up to the individual, I'm just a bit of an over thinker when it comes to this kind of thing

[@simoncarter-by7yh]

Are you going Lightweight. I would love one. If you go for one in between. You would always what the light one. Its so cool

[@GaryB_OutandAbout]

Ah dammit, I’ve never thought about a Brompton, I’ve never wanted a Brompton. But I now want a Brompton! 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣👍🏼 Cheers, Gary B

[@sarahtrew9331]

I love my Brompton 😊

[@CristiNeagu]

Interesting bikes... makes me take my old road bike out, give it a clean and a tune, and take it out for a ride. And btw, love that flag flying above Andrew's door.

[@andybrockbank3027]

Wear a helmet at ALL times. You get one head and contents - don't waste them by thinking a fall will never happen. Low speed crashes are just as dangerous as high speed.

[@jamesb9303]

I attest to this!! I lost balance going 5mph and fell. My head slammed on asphalt mixed with loose gravel and my helmet was heavily dented with cracks! Imagine dying or becoming disabled falling off a bike going 5mph..

[@iananthonyjames]

@@andybrockbank3027 What a silly comment. Physics means high speed crashes are multiple times more dangerous. Don't be bullied by the helmet police.

[@pootlingalong8928]

Don’t want a head injury? Don’t fall off your bike! Too many inexperienced riders riding many-geared bikes, no idea how to ride and control a bike in everyday situations.

[@pootlingalong8928]

Rubbish. Scaremongering.

[@celsteer941]

I couldn’t imagine riding that bike in Sheffield! You need a dinner plate cassette to take it easy

[@johnbell2722]

How is the camera. mounted for the front on shots whilst cycling?

[@PaulMessner]

selfie pole and clamp

[@iancantrill5961]

Great British design and if I lived in a big city I would have one. I certainly won’t be bikepacking on one.

[@kpj5]

G line is the one you want 😅

[@PaulMessner]

I’d love one

[@luiscypher9657]

He should try to incorporate a wheel so u can wheel it for those that haven't the strength to carry it full weight

[@chrisjones6110]

Had a brommie for 12 years, it’s a perfect little bike

[@BromptonHabitude-fe1in]

Yes, I have been following Andrew @Nottinghamshiremadness for some time now. In fact, I bought my P Line after seeing he had bought one. At the time I had three others. It's Andrews fault that I now have four, and he will be to blame when I buy a 12 speed T Line!! 😆 I have to say, I had a test ride on one from Brompton Junction in New York, and they are incredible. Great vlog and just subscribed. Good luck with your future purchase. Mal.

[@rossbarnett3759]

I reckon these bikes with the right kind of inflatable kayak one could travel the world.

[@terrysallbikes]

Two of my favourite KZbin channels for the price of one, can see me loosing my Brompton wild camping crown!

[@jamessmith1652]

I'm curious Paul how you mounted the camera to the bike?

[@PaulMessner]

selfie pole and clamp

[@jamessmith1652]

@@PaulMessner thanks Paul! It held up well and didn't vibrate.

[@kenh3344]

Well there has been folding bicycle s before . But tbis looks the bees knees. How much to purchase one ., ? This looks like a winner .

[@thegeordiefellwalker8878]

bickerton are quite well known as well 🚴

[@johnbellis1179]

My mates got a Brompton and has had a few unplanned departures from it due to potholes. Potholes and tiny wheels don’t mix .

[@jamessmith1652]

This. People don't realize before buying small bicycles the downsides to small wheels.

[@alexmorgan3435]

Maybe your mate needs to visit Specsavers? I've never fallen off mine ever in nearly 20 years of riding it and I have ridden it on some pretty rough trails.

[@johnbellis1179]

@@alexmorgan3435 His eyesight is fine thanks but the roads where he lives aren’t. Physics tells us that a bicycle with larger wheels with a slack head angle will traverse rougher ground better than a bicycle with smaller wheels and a steeper head angle like the Brompton. If this wasn’t the case mountain bike teams wouldn’t be riding with 29’ wheels and slack head angles would they. If Paul is going to do any off road cycling he would be obviously be safer on a bike designed for the job. Bromptons are great for the purpose that the vast majority of people use them for but definitely not the safest. My dad will probably sell his if anyone wants it, it’s folded up and has hardly been used. Reason for sale, he must have something wrong with his eyesight too 😂😂

[@alexmorgan3435]

@@johnbellis1179 It is difficult arguing with some one so misinformed and unwilling to see or admit to this.

[@johnbellis1179]

@@alexmorgan3435 Thanks for another polite response. I’m not arguing with you, my comment is based on science and bicycle research, it is not my opinion. Maybe bicycle companies are misinformed and you are right. Take your theory to someone like Canyon, Trek, Specialised or Santa Cruz and tell them that they are wrong 😂😂. It’s them I base my answer on. Brompton are great for their portability but they can’t match a bicycle designed for a specific task. The stage is yours, explain to everyone using science (not your bias opinion) why I am misinformed. Try to keep it polite if you can. Many thanks.

[@MichaelAndersen_DK]

Nifty bikes, excellent for taking with you in the train or RV, I just wish there was a factory version with disc brakes. And that laugh at 29:09! PS (you asked for it) I've been ran into doing both 10 and 40 km/h on my bike - just wear the damn thing on your head if you have anything to protect. /rant off

[@richardsracingmad]

I have a Dahon 18 speed Visc, P18, picked it up for £200 in mint condition last year…11.5kg.12” wheels. For the difference in price, it’s only a tiny bit larger when folded, compared to a Brompton. Not a lot in it, if it’s going in the back of a campervan.

[@pootlingalong8928]

Dahons are made of aluminium. Ride steel bikes and notice the difference!

[@Beamish32]

I know the Brompton has got a place for commuting but those tiny wheels scare me. I've moved from my old 26" mountain bike to a 29er though but back in my motorbike days, I looked at people on on Vespa's and Lambretta's and thought 'those things don't look safe'

[@Beamish32]

Just realised that my grammar school English teacher would have killed me for those apostorphes but, in my defence, I did start working at 06.30 and am still organising camping gear for a trip to Bamburgh with my son

[@alexmorgan3435]

Your fear is totally unfounded and irrational. You have clearly never owned one.

[@Andy_ATB]

Oh dear; as a cyclist, I've never really considered a Brompton........and now I am looking on their website.....the C-Line in Racing Green is tempting.