Tips for reading philosophy

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Overthink Podcast

Overthink Podcast

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@raz8752
@raz8752 2 жыл бұрын
My copy of Ethics of Ambiguity has notes from a previous owner, and you can tell they hated the book because their notes are really passive aggressive and they descend into chaos and madness towards the end of the book. It’s nice having a friend to suffer along with when you’re struggling lol (I am enjoying it more than them, though)
@marq4375
@marq4375 2 жыл бұрын
lmao, please put one of their notes here. I'd love to see what the wrote . >_
@Gabriel-bk3lm
@Gabriel-bk3lm 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@kosterix123
@kosterix123 2 жыл бұрын
as long as they don't use a black marker to hide the curse words...
@ankavoskuilen1725
@ankavoskuilen1725 2 жыл бұрын
It would be great to own such a book!
@sanield2782
@sanield2782 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually hilarious and I totally feel their pain
@armandj.8864
@armandj.8864 2 жыл бұрын
Another method I've discovered is float and focus. That is, on your first reading, expect that you'll understand nothing. If it feels too difficult, float through it. When you come to something that feels comprehensible and lucid, slow down to focus on it. Then float some more. You'll find as you go along that the more comprehensible parts reinforce what you've picked up subconsciously from the more knotty and difficult parts. The further you go, as Professor Anderson indicates, the more comfortable you'll become with the concepts and at a certain point you may be surprised to discover you're absorbed in the argument--it's come alive. At the end of each chapter, paraphrase to yourself the gist of what the author is saying or what you think she's saying, then write it down.
@scambammer6102
@scambammer6102 2 жыл бұрын
Philosophy is the only academic field in which writers intentionally make their work obtuse. It is exactly the opposite of good thinking and writing.
@adriancioroianu1704
@adriancioroianu1704 2 жыл бұрын
@@scambammer6102 It is a feature to find new or forgotten meanings in words you first tought they are trivial or in old or fresh words. Not a bug. Also often times the lexicon of a language doesn't allow the philosopher to express himself/herself in the way he/she intends because it is too poor. Basically can't do his/her job so it's going to make use of weird techniques like using a trivial word in a new sense (like "field" in physics for example).
@scambammer6102
@scambammer6102 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriancioroianu1704 I am not talking about semantics. It is the GOAL of philosophy to spin impenetrable mazes of bullshit to confound readers so that the "philosopher" looks smart. It's a con game, very similar to religion.
@adriancioroianu1704
@adriancioroianu1704 2 жыл бұрын
​@@scambammer6102 I don't share your opinion. To make a poor analogy (probably) it's like when you listen to non-vocal music and suddenly you "see" or feel something that your never "saw" or felt before and imagine describing that in words. Well, good luck with that. Of course you are going to use metaphors and words in weird and unfamiliar ways, sometimes even inventing new ones to express yourself because everything is novel, sometimes even the whole framework. Religion is similar in this regard but less rational in the way we understand today rationality. Anyway i find your take too harsh and even shallow.
@scambammer6102
@scambammer6102 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriancioroianu1704 I assume that most people visiting this channel do not agree with me. I don't think there has been anything original in philosophy since that moron Plato and his vastly superior student Aristotle.
@shaamilthattayil
@shaamilthattayil 2 жыл бұрын
Ibn Sina, the great physician, claimed that he read Aristotle's Metaphysics more than 40 times trying to understand it, so much so that he memorised the lines and those lines started appearing in his dreams.
@aliyaspahic
@aliyaspahic 11 ай бұрын
That’s absolute crazy dedication
@amina-el.
@amina-el. 2 жыл бұрын
1) Skim first (paragraph/page/chapter), then go through in detail 2) Wait until finishing paragraph/page section until highlighting/annotating 3) Watch out for how arguments are built and premises introduced, check for fallacies (reflect!) 4) Resisit the first and second urge to stop reading 5) Read text in several sittings 6) Learn to swim (get used to flow of writing/approach)
@scambammer6102
@scambammer6102 2 жыл бұрын
7) chuck in garbage
@vishnu2407
@vishnu2407 2 жыл бұрын
Ty fren
@vishnu2407
@vishnu2407 2 жыл бұрын
@@scambammer6102 very mature
@scambammer6102
@scambammer6102 2 жыл бұрын
@@vishnu2407 pull my finger
@softlycrumblingcastle1820
@softlycrumblingcastle1820 2 жыл бұрын
7) Avoid postmodern thoroughly refuted and non-sensical theories.
@jcccheung
@jcccheung 2 жыл бұрын
I read Kierkegaard in my first philosophy class in undergrad (200 level). Reading passages like "the self is the self reflecting on its own self.." without any background was 🤪
@simoneeast4282
@simoneeast4282 7 ай бұрын
I think the backgroud and intellectual lineage is imporntant and not mentioned in this otherwise useful discussion. For instance, reading Deluze and not appreciating the traidition of metaphysics and Deluze's reponse to Heidegger's argument regarding metaphoysics.
@jungao6470
@jungao6470 2 жыл бұрын
Ellie Anderson, a new star in the sky of philosophical thinking.
@mlamferreira
@mlamferreira 10 ай бұрын
This is one of the few videos on youtube that actually has helpful tips on reading not only philosophy but theory books in general. Most of the stuff you find here have millions of views but it's bs after bs. Thanks
@christopherkerr6307
@christopherkerr6307 2 жыл бұрын
As a philosophy major, I can attest to all of these. I wish I had this video when I first started my degree. I’m currently a senior for clarity.
@josephwalsh7546
@josephwalsh7546 2 жыл бұрын
You would have been much better off changing your major before you started a useless degree. Enjoy working the grill after graduation.
@dogchaser520
@dogchaser520 2 жыл бұрын
Seniors for Clarity - great name for a band of retired philosophers.
@GodlessEndeavor616
@GodlessEndeavor616 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogchaser520 I would join :D
@lolonyou6169
@lolonyou6169 Жыл бұрын
and are you still sane ? im currently studying sociology btw
@stephenpowstinger733
@stephenpowstinger733 Жыл бұрын
I am the first president of the local “Seniors for Clarity” chapter.
@pizzaspy
@pizzaspy 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the process of working through a text, without any preconceptions based on the academic or traditional views on it, and then comparing after. Even though you will not be benefitting from centuries of really smart analysis, and end up misinterpreting or getting stuck on many things, the process of working through it raw is just so valuable. When you do dig into what other people say, you will have many epiphanies that have more potency because you did the work and have the foundation. Not to mention insulating yourself from conclusions being pushed as fact by various agendas.
@keepitreal333
@keepitreal333 4 ай бұрын
100%
@walterwz
@walterwz 3 ай бұрын
Finding your channel is the high point of today. As part of my training for the Catholic Priesthood, my formation included 5 years of Minor Seminary study where I acquired a BA in philosophy. For decades I saw this degree as an embarrassment. Now as I am pushing 70. These studies back then served as a foundation to all other intellectual endeavors throughout my life. When I was getting this degree, I was amazed that we were given these cliff notes like commentaries on philosophers and NEVER encouraged to read the philosopher's original works. The exception there was the Church Fathers course and Aristotle's Ethics. Since I had nothing better to do, I got really deep into these studies. Now in my dotage, I find philosophical works to be really interesting. Reading a philosophical work really changes the wiring of the brain for the better. I can't believe I read Being and Time in my senior year and on of my major papers was: How the Categorical Imperatives Serve as a Basis For Morality. I think the problems of society today are rooted in the failure to appreciate our rich philosophical heritage. I look forward to watching your videos.
@birdwatching_u_back
@birdwatching_u_back Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!! A personal tip that’s worked for me-if you can find any KZbin lectures by the author, or by a contemporary expert on them, just gobble those up. Get your algorithm full of lectures. There are some real gems on this site. Make playlists, write down time stamps, take screenshots and make albums in your phone. Even if you don’t get stuff, you’ll pick up on things just through exposure and immersion.
@examininglife4338
@examininglife4338 2 жыл бұрын
As a philosophy person preparing for a PhD program and marathon runner, I completely agree with your tips! I will say, in terms of marathon running though, it's important to listen to your body because not doing so may lead to injury. Absolutely build up the physical and mental endurance, but don't get hurt (whether physically or intellectually lol). Love your channel and podcast!
@TheSnowLeopard
@TheSnowLeopard 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed - she has misunderstood the science of fatigue and marathon running. Sensations associated with fatigue are not "stop signals" as she claims; people can literally run themselves to death if they choose to do so. Newer research on the role of peripheral afferents in causing central fatigue has now disproven the theories of Noakes et al. that her comments are most likely based on.
@robertalenrichter
@robertalenrichter Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnowLeopard Very interesting. What about the notion of the "second wind", which a lot of us can relate to, even in daily life? I get the sense that the body does adjust and regenerate somehow, pump different hormones, perhaps. Fatigue can also come from tension. Not disagreeingin fact, quite interested and will look up those peripheral afferents.
@TheSnowLeopard
@TheSnowLeopard Жыл бұрын
@@robertalenrichter A key paper is "Fatigue-related group III/IV muscle afferent feedback facilitates intracortical inhibition during locomotor exercise" (2018) which among other studies with similar results shows the coupling between peripheral sensation and central fatigue, which in turn is critical for appropriate regulation of ventilation with respect to sustained fatiguing activity as an individual exceeds the gas exchange threshold and 'anerobic threshold'. This also helps explain the increased perception of effort which is based on the strength of signals upstream of the motor cortex and is a critical part of the proprioceptive system (muscle function is predicted as real time feedback is too slow), the delayed proprioceptive feedback is then compared and if performance is lower than expected, this is perceived as fatigue (but not to be confused with the physical sensations associated with fatigue that are also facilitated by the aforementioned group III/IV afferents).
@robertalenrichter
@robertalenrichter Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnowLeopard You'll grant that it's a bit difficult for me to grasp all of these temporal interactions, even with repeated, reflective reading. I would need a diagram. But some of the terms are fascinating -- "peripheral sensation and central fatigue", "predicted muscle function", "delayed proprioceptive feedback". The first two would actually look good in a literary text...
@robbc3851
@robbc3851 Жыл бұрын
Love the comment on no spoiler alerts ever being given for the Critique of Pure Reason! One of my favorite observations about philosophy texts now. I am reading the French Existentialists (Simone de Beauvoir, Sartre, Camus) after reading a lot of Russian classic literature last year, (Tolstoy, Gogol, Dostoyevsky, Bulgakov) and I love seeing the parallels between such different cultural philosophies. I just discovered your channel with this video and thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope you have continued to make such content and still enjoy it. Thank you for your work on the video!
@matthewcaldwell8100
@matthewcaldwell8100 2 ай бұрын
They are peanut butter and jelly, truly.
@deepanshchaudhary5094
@deepanshchaudhary5094 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The bit about building stamina to resist temptation of giving up and keep going is true for so many other facets of life too.
@WisdomWorkshop
@WisdomWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I learned (and use) "Multiple draft reading" : 1st draft : skim/scan for big picture, identifying areas that seem really important .... 2nd draft: a little closer read of the parts that seem really important, 3rd draft: slow down and work on passages (by re-reading them, often), and then 4th draft... : re-read.... all the while making notes >.... and if you do this well, it actually SAVES you time and is way more engaging!!! (and can be fun to identify WTF is going on :) thanks for this channel and pod!
@MontyVierra
@MontyVierra 2 жыл бұрын
I was born BC (before computers) and lived in a rural suburb in the US. A traveling salesman convinced my mom to buy an encyclopedia set and some "classics." We didn't have any other books, so at about 10, I just started reading Plato's Republic, partly because it was mentioned at school along with the ideas of democracy and republican forms of government. There were some things I liked and some I didn't, so I decided to create my own "ideal nation." Thus, one way to approach a philosophy text is to argue with it and pinpoint what you don't like. Another way is to extrapolate from it and say "what if." Second suggestion: Read Jostein Gaarder's Sophie's World. Yes, it's for teens, but I recently re-read it and had a great time. Third, re notes: Try Cornell Notes and variations on it. That makes reading far more interactive than highlighting and/or underlining. I wish someone had told me about this when I was starting out in college or even earlier. I teach this technique to all of my students. Fourth, beware of translations. When we were studying literary theory in grad school, we got bogged down reading Derrida. I went online and read him in French and found out the ugly secret: He's telling puns or making witty remarks or going off on delightful tangents--none of which the translator included. In short, sometimes we have to try these works in the original to really get what the author is trying to convey. However, while Kant in German is indeed systematic, ah, Hegel, oh, my gosh, no wonder Mark Twain dissed the German language!
@dineshsai1061
@dineshsai1061 2 жыл бұрын
I just realised by the end of the video that I had to watch it again because all the time I was just listening to your voice. It's so nice😍
@colinellicott9737
@colinellicott9737 2 жыл бұрын
I like to read a philosopher with the Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy open right next to it and jump back and forth. This allows me to get a different perspective on a difficult word, phrase, or idea and reread it again for understanding.
@marywong9976
@marywong9976 2 жыл бұрын
There is so much good advice in here not only just for reading philosophy but almost any other academic texts
@isaiahreyes4318
@isaiahreyes4318 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going back to school after 10yrs and I’m really glad I stumbled on this video. I’m going to use these trips to help me study.
@davidwoodward8344
@davidwoodward8344 6 ай бұрын
this video totally changed how i approached reading things in general. going over it quickly first orients you to certain terms and primes you to see certain things. then the second, deeper reading, allows you to fully engage or interact mentally with the text. i know for certain something i do in general is get "stuck" or have thought loops on certain sentences, this process of reading helps deal with that. ❤️ to overthink
@paulpoenicke5642
@paulpoenicke5642 Жыл бұрын
The screaming skull at :24 is incredible. I love assigning this video to my students, simply because I chuckle at them reaching this point in the video.
@oscarfaith-ell5243
@oscarfaith-ell5243 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the last point. It reminded me of this quote by Deleuze where he talks about Kant (but it can be applied to any philosophy): "It´s an excessive atmopshere, but if one holds up, and the important thing is above all not to understand, the important thing is to take on the rythm of a given philosopher, if one holds up, all this northern fog which lands on top of us starts to dissipate, and underneath there is an amazing architecture."
@adolfogarcia3160
@adolfogarcia3160 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you this is very helpful! One of my Dreams and purpose of life is be able to undestand books like Critique of Puré reason and phenomelogy of the spirit! greetings from Nezahualcoyotl City in México.
@brahimilyes681
@brahimilyes681 2 жыл бұрын
Critique of Puré sounds like a fire recipe book
@dantealighieri4857
@dantealighieri4857 2 жыл бұрын
Puré is smashed potatoes in French lol
@jaram6049
@jaram6049 2 жыл бұрын
no one understands phenomelogy of the spirit, lol.
@alittax
@alittax 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very noble goal, I wish you all the best for attaining it!
@st105900
@st105900 2 жыл бұрын
Best to read a synopsis of these work first before considering if it is worth your time. I liked Bertrand Russell's survey of these two works.
@navneetyadav7139
@navneetyadav7139 2 жыл бұрын
The color palette of this video is one of the most mesmerizing I have ever seen.
@timelston4260
@timelston4260 2 жыл бұрын
A delight to hear someone encourage these tips, thanks. I have no formal training in philosophy, and when I picked up Kant's Critique of Pure Reason I was completely lost and gave up after the second chapter. Years later I read through it with a group led by a trained philosopher, and, like you said, by the end it was pretty easy to understand. Then we went to Hegel's Philosophy of Spirit, and I was lost again, but now halfway through it I am familiar with Hegel's vocabulary and I get the gist pretty well on the first reading of a passage, with exceptions, of course. Thank you for the encouragement to keep reading hard stuff. Subscribed
@aoyenngoc502
@aoyenngoc502 Жыл бұрын
1. Skim and slog. Skim through and go read again carefully. 2. Finish reading before highlighting, underlining or leaving marginal notes. 3. Watch out the logical moves: arguments should be cohesive, built on one point and took another, potential errors. 4. Resist your urge to stop reading. 5. Don’t check your phone. 6. Read the text in more than one sitting.
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones Жыл бұрын
Mark here: Ive just been of the tradition that someone else reads and curates the work for me. Not rigorous, (it IS youtube). You tube is as close to 2 hour lecture in or around great American institutions as I might get. Just really glad these folks put all this great work on an accessible platform.
@jsimonlarochelle
@jsimonlarochelle Жыл бұрын
Several good tips. I would add the Feynman method on top of all that. When you get to a point where you no longer understand ... go back to the beginning and start again.
@unusual686
@unusual686 2 жыл бұрын
As a scientist who listens to philosophy videos on KZbin, I would suggest listening to Shelly Kagan's Philosophy 176 course at Yale about death. Shelly goes really slow and explains everything in detail because it is an introduction course. It also makes it easier when the philosopher is talking about a specific subject that people can relate too. Philosophy has its own specific definitions, and generally philosophers can/will complicate a donut, so it does take a long time to figure out what they're talking about.
@dogchaser520
@dogchaser520 2 жыл бұрын
A _donut_ ...? Surely you mean a post-risen saccharide torus-as-such. In a manner of speaking.
@unusual686
@unusual686 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogchaser520 Spoken like a true philosopher/
@bastiaanvanbeek
@bastiaanvanbeek 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, philosophers are not talking about anything, only unnecessary obscurantism and complexity. Fortunately, contemporary philosophers such as Daniel Dennett are very clear. Assumably, due to the influence of science, which tries to be as clear as possible and actually say things.
@socratesagain7822
@socratesagain7822 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastiaanvanbeek You had me at Dennett. A thinker for the ages! Be well.
@Aki-wq6xh
@Aki-wq6xh 2 ай бұрын
Can’t believe I only found you now, binging through your 100+ episodes. Please know you are doing amazing amazing good work and important work and we love you ❤
@marisolcastillo1589
@marisolcastillo1589 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to recommend 2 things: a dictionary or googling things, and most importantly, approach the book with humility. No snobbery is needed, nothing is easier or harder than making a living and being alive. Don't underestimate yourself. Remember, humility before any reading, 50 shades of Gray or Plato, it doesn't matter (really) what you read, it doesn't make you better or worse, it just makes you, any book that makes you feel joy is a good book.
@beenstressin9984
@beenstressin9984 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by humility before reading?
@Mohamad-dc1zx
@Mohamad-dc1zx Жыл бұрын
@@beenstressin9984 Simply not judging a book by its cover, as we may have prejudice even before reading the first page of a book. We may think the writers aren't good enough .
@stephenpowstinger733
@stephenpowstinger733 Жыл бұрын
“50 Shades of Gray or Plato”. Two works of debatable value. I don’t see “humility”, just an open mind.
@enkor9591
@enkor9591 11 ай бұрын
It does matter.
@scorch_d62
@scorch_d62 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I do that helps is I read the source, then I immediately pick up another book that's all about exploring the source. For example, I read Marcus Auraleus - Meditations cover to cover and immediately followed with Pierre Hadot's - The Inner Citadel. That way I can develop my own ideas and first impressions, and then in some sense "check" against what the literary community believes. It also leads to a lot of "aha" moments that I find oddly satisfying as things you didn't initially understand are explained or when you encounter interpretations of a text that are totally contrary to your own.
@SolveEtCoagula93
@SolveEtCoagula93 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these tips, Ellie. I spent 7 years at university studying for various degrees in physics - most of the time wishing I'd opted for my first passion, philosophy. Now, having retired, I decided to take up that undiminished desire and see if I could learn about the thing that really interests me - ideas. The problems I've encountered do centre around trying to read texts - I am far more used to solving equations. Each time I try to read I encounter the same issue of, 'Am I too old for this?'. With the tips you've given, I'll have a more concerted effort and see what happens. Thanks again.
@artlessons1
@artlessons1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks , for a good overview of reading philosophy. I am a retired teacher and artist who still at 68 read a hour ( re reads and rereads of the classics ) or more a night . From a artist perspective when starting a artwork it is much like your skim and slug rather than getting to the details . I find during my journey especially as a teacher that one must honestly understand and present the work from the inside circle of the author rather than projecting your ideas of it . A find the best professors are one who after teaching the works of many philosophers you don’t know in fact what philosophy he or she endorses because they are teaching honestly to the meaning of the author . Of interest , about twenty years ago l was in a regular restaurant stop of mine . After eating l had a coffee and read Nietzsche Thus Spoke Zarathustra . About forty minutes later the waitress came up to me and asked if l was all right “ because the table of people over there thought you were dead ! I smiled saying oh sorry !, I was reading Nietzsche, so l guess l was a paradigm of his aphorism “ God is dead “ Thanks for bringing me back to life !
@seop1721
@seop1721 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I see them as similar to a classical approach: grammar, logic, and rhetoric. So first the ‘grammar’ read-through is to get a sense of the gist and shape, perhaps of the paragraph or the whole work. Then the logic read-through for the argument, definitions, etc. Then comes rhetoric: what do you think of it? Do you agree with it? Is it valid etc? This 3-stage process is a useful one.
@dlotable
@dlotable 2 жыл бұрын
Trivium is fundamental
@leosgf
@leosgf 2 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian I felt really happy to See clarice lispector in your book shelf
@quantgeekery6358
@quantgeekery6358 2 жыл бұрын
I read philosophy like I am reading a math text: document and diagram the preliminaries until you can genuinely understand the *fundamental* structure of the subject being evaluated by the text as well as the mathematical/philosophical tools used to analyze it.
@owenchan8431
@owenchan8431 2 жыл бұрын
This speaks to me truly. I was reading CJ Stevenson's essay on emotivism and I had that urge to stop reading like you just said, I took a breathe and drank a bit of water, then just pull through, I was so concentrated and it was so rewarding after doing all the highlighting and combining all the side notes into a final explanation of his theory.
@stevenkandro7453
@stevenkandro7453 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea where to start. Lately I’ve been more interested In postmodernism. I’ve really enjoyed zizek, Kierkegaard and umberto eco. I typically enjoy philosophers who comment on politics, current events and culture.
@aporiaiseuphoria
@aporiaiseuphoria Жыл бұрын
Love that there is a Complete Stories of Clarice Lispector on the shelf behind you! This channel is obviously awesome. :D
@lucassaorin1503
@lucassaorin1503 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a brazillian and noticing throughout the video a "Clarice Lispector Complete Stories" on your shelf made me really happy. She is a wonderful writer and really deserves to be read on another langagues besides portuguese as well!
@simonbarraclough5313
@simonbarraclough5313 Жыл бұрын
Watched this in Turin in 2022. Loved it. Am currently reading (slowly but rewardingly) the great Hegelian opus. And big gulps of Derrida. Danke.
@anupamdebnath1884
@anupamdebnath1884 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. You deserve more subscribers.
@WisdomisPower-10inminute-dn5no
@WisdomisPower-10inminute-dn5no 11 ай бұрын
I'm always excited to find people discussing these issues. It's something I'm passionate about and have been exploring on my channel as well.
@shocked1991
@shocked1991 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! I'm a Pomona alum (class of 2003) and it's awesome to see your content!!
@1evilhag
@1evilhag Жыл бұрын
This helped me so much you have no idea.
@shenbrian4763
@shenbrian4763 Жыл бұрын
Don't know how this comes to my phone screen. I am so grateful to listen the advice that gives me confidence to read on :)
@s.wallerstein
@s.wallerstein 9 ай бұрын
Never gotten past the 25 minute or maybe even 20 minute attention span when reading difficult texts myself, but it's great to see that certified as ok by an expert like Professor Anderson.
@gottod
@gottod 2 жыл бұрын
I am kind of a professional philosopher and I myself find this informative and useful -- not for teaching, for myself. Thank you for making these videos!
@frederickt4298
@frederickt4298 2 жыл бұрын
That was super helpful. skim and slog, build and move, logical fallacies, reflect, and pepper in some mindful moments.
@icecave89
@icecave89 2 жыл бұрын
Regards Sartre, it's helpful and enjoyable to read his novels before his philosophy.
@teckyify
@teckyify 2 жыл бұрын
Another important issue is generally the hermeneutics. Most issues arise because (we students) have absolutely no clue about the context the text was written, why it was written, who is addressed in the text, does it continue a previous discussion, is the translation bad or wrong, etc. I had this experience just hardcore in a seminar about Duns Scotus, where everything cryptic came together. We had no clue what we were reading and the million discussion it connected to at the time of its writing. Also the translation was often wrong. Without the professor we'd have no chance understanding anything 🥴
@user-rd6vf7xk1x
@user-rd6vf7xk1x 2 жыл бұрын
After an afternoon of self imposed slogging, I found your channel, and am eternally grateful.
@williamkraemer8338
@williamkraemer8338 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Prof. Ellie Anderson's delivery. I rarely, if ever, hear a pause, and an "ah" before the thought resumes. Beside the delivery, the content is very deeply understood and conveyed. An example is Prof's explaining how, in much Continental philosophy, terms may not be overtly defined but become clear as the term is read and reread. She makes philosophy seem fun, interesting, and compelling because she, herself, obviously feels that it is. I have never had a philosophy prof. that taught how to experience reading philosophy and now to monitor yourself reading it. Her pedagogy may bring many new students to a field that is currently so neglected.
@弘睿甫
@弘睿甫 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is now officially underrated
@Demention94
@Demention94 Жыл бұрын
Your speaking is very captivating. These are great tips as I always find myself distracted when things get difficult. I do find reading Neitzsche exciting. I will sub for your wit and enthusiasm.
@johnnydeutschemark3620
@johnnydeutschemark3620 2 жыл бұрын
Useful and logical advice, thanks. The The D& G passage you read sounded like pure-poetry. The first example from Hegel was a "word salad" if ever there was one. In order to read philosophy: first throw your phone in the nearest river. btw Your hair looks amazing today.
@davidb5711
@davidb5711 2 жыл бұрын
I was amused at the part about the comparison to marathon running. I happen to be coaching a friend in running and he’s running a longer distance tomorrow and I was thinking of how to motivate him to go past the limits he feels his body has. What’s funny is that he’s a philosophy professor with a PhD. So he doubtless knows quite well how to push forward in philosophy texts. I may use your lesson in reverse with him, telling him how pushing past the felt limits of his body on the road is just like pushing himself through all those philosophy chapters in grad school!
@chelseagirl30
@chelseagirl30 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I’ve found this vid! As someone who has ADHD and Dyslexia I find Philosophy quite hard to read at times even if I am interested in the content. I find after reading a whole page twice I realise that the idea being explained could’ve all been condensed into two sentences, but of course it mightn’t sound nearly as interesting that way. I haven’t finished watching this vid before commenting but I’m sure I’ll find lots of tips!
@ksheltonification
@ksheltonification Жыл бұрын
Perfect advice for reading works of theology too! Thank you!
@jingyiwang5113
@jingyiwang5113 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I just started learning my ethics and leadership class at university. It is really helpful. I am lost in reading philosophy and I will try your methods today.
@surajsood1258
@surajsood1258 2 жыл бұрын
Some really good points on continental philosophy here, especially learning the "shape" of definitions and acquiring Sartre's in *B&N* later in the work. I found Kant in *Critique of Pure Reason* very systematic--his logic is easy to follow!
@Rami-ll2bq
@Rami-ll2bq 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say I enjoy Dr Anderson's videos, she is so clear and coherent, but as I am not a human so an outsiders perspective might help. First decide your goal, do you wanna finish the book cause you have to? Do you just want to pass a test? Or do you want to gain understanding. First and second options, fair, this video will help you. But to gain understanding, I treat the text as an archeological dig. every bone, every fragment, complete gird work. I do not presume, I do not rely on past thoughts, Ideas are like fish, you want them fresh outa water. No philosophical books stands alone. I read about 3 -7,8 books simultaneously. Each cadaver, each fragment is inscribed on its own page, each page is a loose leaf, a palimpsest of layers covering other layers, and when I have enough leaves, they self assemble, all you have to do is to have the confidence to allow your ideas evolve to their logical conclusions, all you need to control is the framework. Dont forget, "there is nothing outside the text!" Once you know what that means, The cog wheels of the text will reveal themselves. you have to read texts, you cannot gain understanding through videos. Understanding cannot be given, gifted or found. Its not an object to possess, its a process of uncovering, grave digging, autopsy.
@lerssilarsson6414
@lerssilarsson6414 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to Alan Watts & sipping high voltage cocktails. That's the way I absorb grand ideas.
@nikolaosantonopoulos7874
@nikolaosantonopoulos7874 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank you for this podcast! Many years ago I was a promising student of Philosophy. I had even managed to get a BSc in Philosophy of Science and an MA from KCL... Gradually I have lost motivation and I had given up at the age of 24. I have found my passion in History (in which I have not degree at all regrettably) and I earn my living from it. I am still reading original philosophy texts every now and then... Your video has reminded me of the things I liked about it and has motivated to read some again... It is also a very admirable achievement that you have managed to become a professor at this early age btw... Very motivating indeed!!! Thank you!!!
@phiwemhlanga611
@phiwemhlanga611 2 жыл бұрын
I have just taken my first module in philosophy of science (psychology is my first major) and I am really struggling. I can see the interesting (intelligent) elements of my study material but it's hard to comprehend the arguments by these philosophers 😭
@nikolaosantonopoulos7874
@nikolaosantonopoulos7874 2 жыл бұрын
@@phiwemhlanga611 It will come by time! It needs patience, studying and expeeience!!!
@futuredirected
@futuredirected 2 жыл бұрын
The best advice I ever got, on reading Philosophy (or anything, really) came from Heidegger. “Thirst for knowledge and greed for explanations never lead to a thinking inquiry. Curiosity is always the concealed arrogance of a self-consciousness that banks on a self-invented ratio and its rationality. The will to know does not will to abide in hope before what is worthy of thought.” Similar to the swim, as You call it, I employ the soak. I allow myself to soak in the language, without resistance, making no effort, not attempting to get something, just soaking in it and soaking it in. A lot of people say that Heidegger and Derrida are hard to decipher. Of course. They didn’t write ciphers. Just soak. I’ve been reading Philosophy for 55 years. The older I get, the less I know. It’s awesome!
@lischentejuleour5657
@lischentejuleour5657 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the absolutely insightful video! As a mathematician i actually realise that the tips for reading philosophy in the video actually share quite many similarities with reading maths.
@merrickying4264
@merrickying4264 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this post, professor. I found that your strategies for reading philosophy also helped me enormously with navigating my way through experimental literature, particularly Joyce's Finnigan's Wake. ..... Also, to add a tip of my own, I find that wearing a pair of soft, foam earplugs while reading anything difficult helps with comprehension. Thanks, again.
@ForrestAguirre
@ForrestAguirre Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this. After reading a handful of shorter philosophical texts ever the years, I decided to take on Heidegger's _Being and Time_. About a third of the way through the text now, I've understood maybe a third of what I've read so far. These tips are extremely helpful!
@BillyMcBride
@BillyMcBride 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous! Maybe reading aloud would help for others besides me? I fell in love with reading philosophy, poetry, science, history, novels and other literatures because of the quality of voice which for me and many others is a beautiful experience. Heck, why is knowing a text more valuable than appreciating the author's voice both silently and aloud?
@BillyMcBride
@BillyMcBride 2 жыл бұрын
To cling to the text with all your heart, but especially vocally, is something that makes sense to me.
@DerrickMims
@DerrickMims 2 жыл бұрын
Not philosophy, but reading Henry James out loud helped me to make sense of his famously beautiful but convoluted text.
@lemonhaze1506
@lemonhaze1506 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Prof, these are great tips for beginner like me ^^
@alittax
@alittax 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips. One thing I'd add is to read annotated editions of texts, that way you have expert opinion ready at hand. It makes reading Philosophy a bit easier, but sometimes a bit harder, too, because commentators draw your attention to questions that you've never would've asked yourself. This is good, though, if your aim is to enrich your understanding of the text and the questions it poses. I wish everyone fruitful reading!
@ikramdotani7703
@ikramdotani7703 2 жыл бұрын
Great effort! Thanks for uploading
@brahimilyes681
@brahimilyes681 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, lady, your channel is a gem. Articulate and not pop-philosophy.
@Pkperhaps
@Pkperhaps 2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to get my bachelors oh philosophy but these last few classes (metaphysics and modernity of critics) are pretty difficult reads for me but your videos have helped me. So thank you!
@jasminhamilton1147
@jasminhamilton1147 Жыл бұрын
KZbin got it right this time with the algorithms and introduced me to your channel. Thank you for your work.❤
@mokamoka9048
@mokamoka9048 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I started reading philosophy recently. however I just finished symposium by Plato when I came over some discussion when Socrates and others philosophers discussing ideas I feel like I'm arguing with them too in my mind 😍😍😍😂😁
@Slowhiker-xw2kp
@Slowhiker-xw2kp Жыл бұрын
How refreshing, I was a philosophy student in the early 70's and all the professors were grisled old men, from my perspective, albeit brilliant men one and all. Love your video Ellie!!!!!!
@johnrichardson597
@johnrichardson597 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment about taking up to a year to adsorb the great works of philosophy fully is very valuable. Taking the time to think about and understand the nuances of the context of the voice speaking before drawing a conclusion on the thinking is the essence of philosophy. Only then can you mine out the logic in a meaningful way. We all forget that sometimes.
@davidevans9194
@davidevans9194 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ellie for a very useful vlog - I totally agree with your advice. One has to allow time and commitment to allow these various paradigms to melt into our mind.
@deanlol
@deanlol 2 жыл бұрын
This is good advice for reading nonfiction books in general. Love it!
@stretmediq
@stretmediq 2 жыл бұрын
When my daughter took philosophy she asked me advice about reading Kant. I told her first to read something by someone else explaining Kant. Then when she thought she was ready for the real thing to read the Prolegomena because it's his own "easy" explanation and more importantly it's short so she will get an idea for what she's in for
@Scentless
@Scentless 2 жыл бұрын
This. Has been the most helpful advice for maintaining focus and tackling challenging tasks that I've ever received.
@cellomansings
@cellomansings 2 жыл бұрын
This is immensely helpful. I have been wondering about this, and as you were talking I was forming the question, “ why read it? Can’t I just hear some experts talk about it? “ But then you answered that question! So, I think I’m better equipped to start on some reading now. Great, great tips. Thank you…
@1evilhag_
@1evilhag_ 2 жыл бұрын
So grateful for you! So helpful.
@warwolt
@warwolt 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Nice tone and useful tips, especially just embracing the joy of the struggle of turning pages in a book
@postcodeox278
@postcodeox278 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Hobbes Leviathan is challenging to read. I liked the 25 minutes tip
@DrFranq
@DrFranq 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really enjoyed your sense of humor. Much love from Mexico.
@minervas.owl.
@minervas.owl. 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Feeling alone in facing such problems feels terrible. You are great!
@mutabazimichael8404
@mutabazimichael8404 2 жыл бұрын
the tip on underlining at the end of a paragraph or section is really right and great as i happen to actually get "a sea of color" often times and then i realize afterwards that i emphasized on unimportant text .
@cj1986x
@cj1986x 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this video because you agree with me. No really, this is all very excellent advice that overall parallel things that I figured out over the years of reading philosophical and other really dense, difficult texts. People get very caught up in thinking a text should makes sense the first time you read it through and that's not how it works with texts that are trying to convey very complex, challenging and abstract ideas. The thing is finding a way to read -- and reread -- and think about such texts that will lead you to understanding them, and I find all these tips very practical and astute in that sense.
@adam374
@adam374 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, incredibly helpful
@bucketofbarnacles
@bucketofbarnacles 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for these suggestions.
@phillipbrandel7932
@phillipbrandel7932 2 жыл бұрын
Something that has helped me many times when in a pinch is using an etymological dictionary, especially when reading older works.
@feligo9793
@feligo9793 2 жыл бұрын
Really useful tips.Not only can be applied on reading philosophy But also everything on work or study.
@arthur.0liveira_
@arthur.0liveira_ 2 жыл бұрын
I open the video, I see a woman saying she's a professor and behind her I notice a reunion of Clarice Lispector stories, I subscribe. Cheers from Brasil!
@anirbellahcen5551
@anirbellahcen5551 2 жыл бұрын
I have never been in formal schools, yet philosophy is my favorite subject even when I was just started learning the English Lnaguage. The key to understand philosophical texts and terminology is to meditate over sentences. In other words, you have to read slowly and very carefully, and use dictionary whenever you encounter an unfamiliar or new term. Good luck.
@MM-KunstUndWahrheit
@MM-KunstUndWahrheit 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and really insightful, I hope your channel really kicks off because it deserves more attention and attraction from the people
@namaah554
@namaah554 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, I study philosophy and we were never taught how to read properly, just how to write essays and such so I always felt a little blocked even tough I love this subject, these tips made me feel much more confident in reading !!
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