Tips to WIN MID LANE in the DRAFT: Counters to 10 META HEROES | Dota 2 Laning Guide

[@xXxGhostly]

sf: ta,lina,ld storm: ember,dk,qop od: sky,puck,sniper,wr ta: clinkz,bat,mk ember: razor,od,morph lina: ta,dusa,tiny wr: mars,sd,lesh voker: naga,beast,alch tinker: timber,zeus,brood qop: lc,ta any kind soul that wants to add the timestamps go ahead and help a brother out :)

[@hydra2688]

xXxGhostly tyy soo much

[@astronemir]

This is why you can early pick TA

[@polykrom9470]

Mk vs ta is garbage tho

[@sycamore2656]

Lina counters qop and qop counters sf.. just wanted to add that

[@bruhbruh2581]

Bullshite

[@HamboningDonut]

Naga's a preeeetty good laning counter to QOP. You dispel the dagger, make her get points in scream of pain just to figure out which is the real Naga, and of course ensnare is a direct counter (although landing it is relatively difficult).

[@Ex0rz]

You get points in scream of pain anyway...... Not just to figure out which is the real naga. Not many matchups where you should level up shadow strike before scream. Naga mostly counters qop due to the retardedly high amount of base armor. Naga has 6.4 base armor, 3.7 agi gain and 320 base ms... Impossible for a qop to kill or even harass naga 1v1.

[@Frischkeks19]

Secret picking Windranger for w33.haa sounds very 2016 dude

[@pontifexsin]

@@gameleapdota2 its liquid not secret

[@SandroWernado01]

@@gameleapdota2 w33 is playing on liquid and not on secret bro xD

[@Jusnt1]

What a lul

[@joshuaearlgacasan8284]

@@gameleapdota2 xd

[@saif0_]

Lol real mistake haha

[@jasserdimaocor5734]

0:20 SHADOW FIEND (TEMPLAR ASSASSIN, LONE DRUID, LINA) 1:45 STORM SPIRIT (EMBER SPIRIT, DRAGON KNIGHT, QUEEN OF PAIN) 3:45 OUTWORLD DEVOURER (SKYWRATH MAGE, PUCK, SNIPER, WINDRANGER) 5:46 TEMPLAR ASSASSIN (CLINKZ,BAT RIDER, MONKEY KING) 7:51 EMBER SPIRIT (RAZOR, OUTWORLD DEVOURER, MORPHLING) 9:20 LINA (TEMPLAR ASSASSIN, MEDUSA, TINY) 10:55 WIND RANGER (MARS, SHADOW DEMON, LESHRAC) 12:39 INVOKER (NAGA SIREN, BEAST MASTER, ALCHEMIST) 15:08 TINKER (TIMBERSAW, ZEUS, BROODMOTHER) 16:52 QUEEN OF PAIN (LEGION COMMANDER, TEMPLAR ASSASSIN, HUSKAR)

[@steffkepn2]

Sf : Ta, Lina Storm: Ta, Lina, Qop, Sf, Puck Od: Puck, Sky, Sniper, i don't agree with Wr Ta: Viper, Huskar, Sniper (but ancient + Sniper, not lower) Dk (also higher skill) Ember: any range high attack dmg and - armor, just watch for creeps. I never lost Ta vs ember in my life, just go - armor build. I would go with Razor but early game. Lina: Ta, Dusa, Tiny, thats correct Wr: super hard matchup, i would go with Qop, maybe Mars Invoker: Ta, Qop, Storm just everything... Tinker: Zeus, Sniper with kitting, Od sometimes, Brood... Qop: Ta with 10 sentry wards literally, and i agree with dispels, even Omniknight can sometimes work. P.S. Viper: Weaver, Wr, Necro Huskar: Tell me pls, I would go with Wr, and maybe Alche, but its hard shit on mid. Necro: Every spell dmg hero Dk: Necro, Viper, Huskar Zeus: Brood, Ta Puck: Ta Razor: Od, Qop, Am mid, Sniper, Timber Brood and Meepo: Earthshaker and a lot of jungle harass. Also Legion can work too if you are good on mid with him. Alche vs them is fucking orgasm too. Alch: just harassing and fucking his jungle, Necrophos can work, Razor easy. Definitely Ta is the strongest laner for so many patches, but can be easily countered. Also this list doesn't work in super high skill.

[@Jeed92]

qop is not a storm counter. Storm is a qop counter. first 6 lvl its even and after lvl 6 it favors storm heavyly. and we dont even have to talk about the lategame.

[@aylekusagami8411]

I think timber is good to fight brood?

[@aylekusagami8411]

And pugna for huskar?

[@fanuelsetia608]

Where is kunkkaaaa?

[@asdfggggga]

Zeus / Brood / Sky / Es = Pugna

[@polykrom9470]

I appreciate that you made the thumbnail with a vanilla art pic and not that modified garbage

[@juanma9511]

2 corrections: 1. Lina is indeed a Good matchup against TA due to her high atack range and attak speed to shred refraction plus TA shouldnt be able to get close to Lina thx to LSA 2. You forgot huskar as a TA counter, just buy some armor and bully her out of lane

[@juanma9511]

@@gameleapdota2 thats totally true !!

[@mgoogyi]

my tips: sf: sky, tinker storm:: sky od: razor ta: dk, pudge, pl ember: huskar, viper lina: sniper wr: pudge tinker: sky, pudge Happy to hear any advice!

[@romyow6326]

Razor would lose in mid to od?

[@mgoogyi]

@@romyow6326 No, I think Razor has a slight edge against OD.

[@romyow6326]

How come? Static would be useless because of od astral plus razor is a agility hero so sanity eclipse will do a tons of damage

[@mgoogyi]

@@romyow6326 Sorry, you are right. I forgot that razor's passive does not slow the targeted spell's caster anymore. In the old times the (very low mana cost) static link was very good vs OD as astral would lead to slow OD heavily and loosing a lots of damage thanks to static link. OD astral does not break static link.

[@princeofsomnia7664]

2:24 that storm spirit hurts my eyes.

[@aBanabis]

been a long time since ive played dota.. but i mainly played TA Lesh and CM. CM mid was mainly only before the stand-alones, when throneit mmr on dota allstars was auto-arranging games for us. it was just a counter to heavy hard carry teams, otherwise i'd go TA every other game that was well rounded. I've always loved Lesh, but I started playing him a lot more when the betas for the stand-alones came out. One thing I wanted to say is that I've always found it kind of weird how most TA almost ALWAYS go the same build path maxing meld last every single time. A lot of times I find it really nice to have points into it early and sometimes even max it first if i'm able to abuse the double meld 2-shot at lvl 7. maybe i was always playing vs shit, but it's absolutely hilarious bullying mid so hard they have to switch with somebody. new guy shows up and just dies instantly and literally had no idea what just happened. like, no idea. soon as they get to lane they just instantly die not even seeing what happened. it's absolutely beautiful, and though they might be trash, i do think it has its uses in high mmr sometimes, especially if you have a nice roam support to set up wards/sentries for you. i mean.. it's an instant 400 damage in 2 hits. that's not including your base dmg and refract with -8 armor. i had well over 90% winrate in 100s of TA games with that skill setup back in the day..but those were much simpler times playing throneit games in wc3s dota allstars.

[@snortingnesquik3470]

Huskar destroys ta, refraction means nothing against his spears. Brood and lion both demolish invoker.

[@zachb8012]

Pango a strong counter against an invoker. Last hitting is difficult but you can soften him up with swashbuckle to the point support rotations should be successful. For teamfights you've got magic immunity. I won a game recently where I was able to secure fights rolling in with an orchid/stun/crash/buckle combo.

[@nightmareTomek]

Viper also destroys TA. In my experience even harder than Huskar. But I'm just a crusader...

[@thatweirdguywithamask264]

Lion can't really do anything against invoker Invoker really only needs enough mana to summon a spirit If lion stun+mana drain invoker can just right click the shit outta him But brood... yeah fuck that hero

[@christianjayinson2364]

I do prefer picking Huskar against ember

[@Ex0rz]

@@thatweirdguywithamask264 What? Lion cant do anything against invoker? The early level spirit can be taken out pretty easily. Just attack it a couple of times and throw a stun. Should easily hit both the spirit and invoker. Its a 30sec cd anyway.

[@zachb8012]

I think my favorite counter pick is CK into Sniper. I play a lot of Alc and Meepo, but if I get last pick with a 4th pick Sniper (pretty common at 2k), I always will take CK. He can't hang in lane with the reality rift and stun. All you need is a warm body to come gank for you and he's dead. CK mid doesn't work in a lot of games, but it definitely works against a Sniper.

[@stelixhyx808]

Just take arc against sniper, simple win. Just keep zoning sniper with wraiths

[@sage4670]

I love playing mid Ck vs Sf. It's such a fun matchup that throughout the game keeps you on edge. Ck does super well vs sf early, after lvl 7 sf does exponentially better, and late game ck usually stomps sf. It's so back and forth

[@Leadblast]

I remember an old Reddit post explaining QoP vs TA is pretty even and can go both ways depending on how smart the players are. TA can dodge QoP's Q with Meld but not if the QoP has a sentry in the lane. Also a skilled QoP can fakeout a Q cast by cancelling it in mid animation making TA waste Meld. QoP can also control runes better thanks to blink. Etc etc Naga is much bigger counter to QoP than TA is. Mirror Image dispels QoP's poison, net makes QoP unable to blink, etc. Sky is also very powerful against QoP and a strong laner himself. Huskar, Viper and Pudge all destroy TA in lane.

[@ajandmardalizad5981]

Hey guys, I just want to tell you that lone druid ( this hero need some skills - I have 500 games with it ) can crush more than one hero in this list. As speed says lone druid will crush sf in mid. You gonna get almost all of denies and he must beg for some last hit. and at level 5 you will bully him to the fountain. Lone druid also will crush storm! It's a bit harder because storm can kill the bear with static remnant and overload combo but lone druid can stop it by buying 1 tp on bear and tp bear out of mid when he's low. But crushing happens when you get lvl 5 before storm get's lvl 6. In that scenario you can kill him 3 times before he became lvl 6 :D Lone druid is OD counter in mid. That simple! I guess lone druid is pretty strong against TA as well because you have 2 hero with high attack speed so you can finish refraction so easily. Also meld do not work thanks to savage roar so TA is completely defense less. Personally I always crush TA with lone druid. Ember is the bear food. You will just eat him. I never left a mid against lina unless I was 3 lvl ahead, her nukes are simply not enough for you specially with help of spirit link. Windranger is one of the hardest heroes to play against with lone druid because that hero has everything to deal with lone druid, but personally sometimes I will outplay Windranger and try to out farm her. Invoker is like ember, just don't forget to buy dust. Tinker, the poor engineer! He's also the bear food! QOP? Dagger is useless thanks to spirit link and life steal. Blink is useless if she gets rooted. She's squishy also so if she gets rooted she's dead! -------------------- Additional info Best lone druid counters: Death Prophet, Razor, Broodmother

[@rael_esguerra1997]

I love qop and storm but its really hard to lane agains LD.

[@T0134125H]

Raely Esguerra i play ld mid against ember and qop a lot, feels like ember wont die to a single root ( he usually goes phase which gives him a lot of armr) and qop just has pretty high base armor and her defensive blink means u need to kill her within root which is hard cuz she is often high health with bottle. Ember in prticular can avoid getting denied by popping flame guard which does a load of dmg to bear (low resist) as well as no way to pop ghe flame guard which means its not so ez to get the exp advantage.

[@oyuyuy]

I've had great success with Clinkz vs QoP, two spells to dodge the Dagger. And if she ever blinks on top of you, you just man up with Strafe and ulti and kill her. Something I haven't played, but that sounds really good would be Naga vs Tinker. He can't deal with illus in lane and you can purge the blind. Later, you can catch him in the trees with Song when he tps on a wave. (Timber is on of the worst heroes against Tinker according to dotabuff btw). The heroes I struggle to counter are DP and Meepo.

[@jhonmichaellamorin2400]

Timber and dk is a very very good counter against meepo in lane. Due to high armor and stat redu sine meepo is a class s agi i think? And same as dk , high armor and damage redu with hp regen

[@oyuyuy]

@@jhonmichaellamorin2400 I don't know, sounds very weak. High armor doesn't do much since Meepo is mainly magic damage and a bit of pure damage for most of the game. They can't really pressure him much in lane either. Going even in lane isn't enough against Meepo. Timber has 35.5% winrate against Meepo according to Doutabuff. DK has 42%.

[@timber4192]

can't belive speeed did not mention brood against invo, even sumiya strugles with that matchup....

[@ralphpapon9145]

It all depends on ur supports on how they rotate and help u out to dumpster brood (Always happened at high mmr matches). But if u are ancient and below dude dont expect ur supports to come and help u out sounds funny but it always happened to all of us

[@ralphpapon9145]

Why would u delete ur comment @zach b i want to hear it dude

[@grtbgf]

@@ralphpapon9145 there is no way for invoker to beat brood mid. thats one of the most one sided matchups in dota.

[@Kyrosta]

@@grtbgf watch sumiya and u'll learn

[@SarthakMishraDance]

Sumiya plays quas wex invo against brood, even most of the players. coz when you level up the tornado, it does pretty good damage to the brood's spiderlings. and go for phase boots and ring of basillus, and you are good.

[@Marine5D]

00:19 SHADOW FIEND < TEMPLAR ASSASSIN; LONE DRUID; LINA 01:44 STORM SPIRIT < EMBER SPIRIT; DRAGON KNIGHT; QUEEN OF PAIN 03:45 OUTWORLD DEVOURER < SKYWRATH MAGE; PUCK; SNIPER; WINDRANGER 05:45 TEMPLAR ASSASSIN < CLINKZ; BATRIDER; MONKEY KING 07:49 EMBER SPIRIT < RAZOR; OUTWORLD DEVOURER; MORPHLING 09:18 LINA < TEMPLAR ASSASSIN; MEDUSA, TINY 10:54 WINDRANGER < MARS; SHADOW DEMON; LESHRAC 12:38 INVOKER < NAGA; BEASTMASTER; ALCHEMIST 15:07 TINKER < TIMBERSAW; ZEUS; BROODMOTHER 16:51 QUEEN OF PAIN < LEGION COMMANDER; TEMPLAR ASSASSIN

[@swombhai6493]

One more qop counter is dk. Regen is more than the damage done by her Q

[@Zero-lr7xf]

Dk is a good counter to qop, as he can max his passive early and get 2 bracers then he can tank dagger forever and push tower when he is lvl 6 without the fear of dying as he is tanks af. If the qop goes to tank he can push tower and farm faster

[@Yusei797]

A good qop will manage to buy veil of discord and max her third skill to flash farm and gank lanes. Because it's just waste of time to lane agaisnt dk. She needs to buy veil l bottle and nullifier

[@RealHypocrisy]

the od pings after the tiny toss had me howling in laughter xD

[@torsti4791]

In the TA qop match up just make sure your opponent doesn't have true sight in the lane. I've countered QOP many times with TA, and good qops buy 2-5 sentry wards because they know that the only way they'll win the lane 1 vs 1 is to have true sight. So as TA, if it comes down to it buy your own wards because YOU CANNOT LOSE the lane if you meld dodge all QOPs daggers.

[@frederickfajardo6807]

In my experience, at early game Death prophet destroys TA's refraction with the life drain then easily kills here with carrion.

[@ochs-hema]

Thanks bro. Good ember counter is legion as well.

[@snyperheadshoot]

qop is a good counter to od and sf as well, if od tries to man up by using e, you just blink and against sf, if you max dagger he can't lane and at lvl 6 he is a kill

[@idkman4655]

I personally prefer drow vs OD, sniper and sky are indeed great too...

[@MrCamocat09]

Pretty sure puck is the single best qop counter. Dodge dagger for free and experienced pucks can dodge the scream and ult. Not to mention you can kill her easily if you reach 6 before her.

[@andraylulu8469]

I dont really find ember spirit a counter to storm. When I play against storm I would simply take storm 2nd skill early to properly trade or remove ember spirit 3rd skill. P.S its just my opinion ;)

[@debopamroy56]

i think this is the most useful video ever xD

[@B20C0]

What about Viper vs Ember? I feel like he's decently good because it gets rid of flame guard really fast (especially early levels) and once you have Atos Ember needs to buy Euls or BKB, but since most embers go Maelstrom before defensive items most of the time, if you hit an early Atos timing you absolutely crush him.

[@kiriya9906]

this video is so great and useful,thanks

[@zigzag92theone]

AM is a huge counter to QOP - if a qop is mid you can easely go AM mid and wrech the game

[@lucifer0247]

actually Viper is a god damn good counter against TA, she can not come in range early in the game to even last hit, also or denying because that aoe is so god damn huge... the only thing she can try to deny is the range creep-, because of that ridicolous aoe that nethertoxin has. she can also not fight against that hero, his nether toxin and skin wrecks her refraction in an instant.

[@DagothUr.]

I personally think lina is a very good counter to ember mid tbh and before you're like "well hurr durr ember has magic resistance skill" yes, but hear me out, ember isnt likely early game to level that skill and if you force him too because he thinks it will let him farm well look at it this way, for starters ember wont have that ability up constantly the cd for linas fire wave is shorter than his magic immunity so you are guarenteed to be getting those hits in a lot of the time and even at level 2 dragon slave can do a decent amount of damage against most heros that dont buy a teardrop early on. Secondly fiery soul stacks are op and not even including the +30 damage skill at level 10 she can rely more on simply right clicking him out of lane so long as you can maintain ward control (Its 2 last hits for a ward dont be a stinge) and keep up on your mana meaning an early bottle and some mangos can take you a long way so long as you also keep track of the fountains! Personally i main lina and i usually stomp anyone i face mid except for invokers that build into quas, the passive heal defeats the damage output of lina and he can easily bully you out of lane when your mana is gone with an emp or 2 but other than invoker i havent really faced any other mid heros that can beat me mid as lina, her magic and physical damage outputs both scale well as long as you take the skills in this order (+30 dmg , +180 stun dmg , +30% fiery soul stacks at 20, and then -5 sec cd dragon slave) the item build usually in this order (bottle, phase boots, euls, kaya, aghs, yasha (for kaya and yasha), daedalus, then if i need protection i go bkb if i need escape or initiate/gank potential i go shadowblade but will only mke these if absolutely needed otherwise if not i go to satanic, then bkb and sell phases for bots, and if the game persists past that ill sell euls for usually more damage output like mkb.

[@giakhanhnguyen712]

The point is. Ember can max w first, spam fists to make ur hp low and buy more regen, thus delaying your items and still keeping a relatively safe position as he also drags aggro. The other thing is that lina hates gap closer. Ember is extremely good with keeping his distance. When he is lvl 6 u dont have a eul yet to set up or anything so there is so little u can do to him. He just slowly chase u out of the lane, then when u tried to farm up he can just go roam around or jungle quite effectively. And u cant really nuke him down with his flame guard. So he is just there, constantly in the lane slowly gaining advantage while u, if not having any gank from ur sp, can't do anything to slow him down. So ya, lina can deal with ember as the way u said. But not very affective as the 3 mentioned. And even if he can't properly use w to doge ur q, any good ember will know that all he has to do is buy 1 or 2 salve to get through 2 first lvl when SoF is not really that strong.

[@Nostalchik]

isn’t pugna the instant death and loose for od??? never lost as pugna in general against caster with high manacost

[@IAmSwatchingYou]

I always find TA gets completely dumpstered by QoP, I typically ship out a sentry right after the bounties, and maybe a second one after I finish a nulls and get more regen. If you can keep the sentry up (which you absolutely should), TA gets absolutely DUMPSTERED and pushed out of lane. She can try to fight your sentries with hers, but you can always buy more and you have better range to break them anyway. In the meantime you'll be getting more lvls and gold (for more sentries), and have so much rune control TA will have to jungle 24/7 if played right

[@danielgrobbelaar9672]

A few cheesy counters weren't mentioned, Rubick, Lion, Pudge and Silencer counter some of those heroes.

[@Microphunktv-jb3kj]

I've never lost a lane to SF with Kunkka. Only equal lanes i usually have are vs MK ... But then again im only playing in Legend7-Ancient6 games. Kunkka might be my hero or just broken atm, most stable hero for me, i always practically have phaseboots,basilus,bracer and BF by the 12-20min , no matter what is going on in the game.

[@stallon720]

basilius and bf - wait what??? since when is bf a kunkka item outside of 1k

[@andersonreis5024]

Dude, i think u forgot the strongest counter to wind mid, which is invoker. He can kill her so easily and so early. His tornado purges her E. So if she press E, she dies. And also invoker actually counters alch, cause he can deny runes and farm, at lane stage. And its not like invoker cares about getting outfarmed by alch.

[@scottjcraig2]

Any meta videos on first phase support picks?

[@Iwis99]

Personally i think best qop counter is puck. Like puck can dodge all qop skill with phase shift

[@mattvalcarc]

I like to play Nyx mid vs tinker, the carapace is really good at finding tinker in the trees and keeping him there

[@polykrom9470]

Nyx mid = playing 1 core vs 2

[@justpostingsomestuff9574]

I think viper is a honorable mention vs TA: Nethertoxin will kill ur refraction + will disable ur psi blade passive, meaning that youll lose ALL ur range when steping on it so u cant keep a distance from viper to cs u cant refract on him cuz ur passive gone no refraction So bad i think better just go straight to offlane and let some1 else do mid

[@aasirhasan7854]

huskar is the best counter to ta, ta cant even think of winning lane against that

[@moxietoxie1900]

I like playing arc vs Tinker i think it's pretty good in early and you can stop his late game pushing with bots

[@RobertB1St]

Tinker lane counter: every hero

[@nayefabohassan]

IMO Razor counter most of the heroes on this list especially TA

[@netaneltannhauser8888]

kunkka for qop is great

[@nhotchiimarvs]

wow! this is the video that i was looking for in a long time. Meta Mid Counters! RIP Spammers! Thanks!

[@progames70]

I dont understand how this video just skips kunkka in the matchups while he is still super popular, hero crushes windrunner, qop and lina.

[@lowisl289]

that basically means kunkka has no counter XD

[@alibaghlani6172]

Nice vid

[@kale72222]

What about mk,meepo,and kunkka? Need more videos like this to explain more counters for the midlaners

[@Stefan1234567898]

Kunkka counter is mk, puck to dodge combo, dk, legion is ok, huskar Mk counters viper wr tinker, storm is good late and ok on lane, necrophos Meepo counter lina viper wr tiny

[@SlowMoe462]

no huskar or viper as TA counter?

[@Kazzvic]

I think huskar is kinda ded

[@tusharjamwal]

Should've mentioned Viper against TA

[@MrCamocat09]

I think veno counters ta better

[@smilinggeneral8870]

how is ember a counter to storm? 1 remnant and overload, your flame guard is gone. even if you manage to dodge that, storm is a range hero and his remnant has a very short cooldown. plus, storm these days usually pick vortex on level 3 to negate sleight of fist dodge.

[@xyrellevongrafilon5375]

Ya and whenever I played storm and match up with ember . I can totally wrecked ember in any point in the game

[@smilinggeneral8870]

@@xyrellevongrafilon5375 well, ember can build eul on midgame to dodge that and root can be a problem for storm. BUT, what if you get a set of rax before ember manage to get eul? that's what happened to me.

[@Nafolux]

Any list of counters for OD, that does not contain pugna feels incomplete. Its pretty much shutting down OD all game, and thus is commonly baned in pro games when picking up OD. (To the point that you can predict the OD pick by the pugna ban)

[@chrisfelonall1177]

Haven't heard anything about Kunkka why?

[@netaneltannhauser8888]

viper vs ta? I'm great at ta but got dumpstered by viper, had to go to jungle at min 5

[@BreMi142]

When you know your passive won´t work on this lane why would you level it up? Viper is superslow and has low armor so max refraction and meld him down when he steps out

[@TheOneClubberLang]

@@BreMi142 yeah, why level up the skill that let's you flash farm ancient camps to catch up from a lost lane, just because you lane against a hero that can and will win your lane whatever you do.

[@oyuyuy]

Why would you lose to Viper? Viper maxes W and skips Q these days, harass shouldn't be a problem. Additionally you have like double his attack damage. You can just deny everything.

[@netaneltannhauser8888]

BudgeThePutcher that viper maxed q

[@DiMiS08]

How can you not include puck for qop counter? evade all dagers, locking qop in place with ulty, silence...

[@lancepenar1231]

SF is really good against qop he can just insta burst him with razes and clear out wave. Just skill raze at level 1 to secure CS at early games since at level 5 qop cant solo kill u and u can burst him easily with lvl 3 or 2 raze

[@sycamore2656]

I meaaan what... qop can destroy sf mid... it depends on the outplays... If you allow as Qop for sf to solo kill you, you aren't true QOP At beggining qop has better right click and better harass... if she gets lvl 6 faster, the time you show up on lane u are dead.

[@jokerrampagino4032]

best video guide for mid player for this year... pls abuse it

[@marvindalagan3085]

Ember against qop is good u can easily dodge her dagger 😜

[@ndricimhalili9793]

Doesn't Viper destroy Ta as well? He gets rid of an entire refraction with one poison attack, or when he is hit, corrosive skin also destroys Ta and Netherotoxin not only does great damage, but it breaks Ta's psyblades.

[@richikoko1481]

Bat rider is the best counter of ta and yeah its my favrite too cD

[@BannedByMe]

As a solid SF player i find it very difficult playing against Viper mid.

[@aarontalua9456]

5:15 sniper has a high range *fails to reach OD. Hahaha. Kidding aside, you're right.

[@thisjoman]

you forgot the 60%+ win rate lycan mid XD

[@moe9227]

much needed video thank you my man speed

[@eugenecaro5805]

Storm vs. Qop i wud always choose storm. Iv never been crushed with that match up.

[@eugenecaro5805]

@Bence Nagy im at divine 3 and always playing mid. If qop is so harassed then i play same thing too but u need to have sustainability to manpower her. i promise, u wud always deal much damage than her and at thesame time with a great farming😊

[@ricardohammond4475]

eugene caro I hope we can try playing against.. As a crusader4 , 7/3 against against yellow and blue rank storm user

[@LatteEsportsLeague]

Damn I really need to learn TA

[@KompletterGeist]

I think viper and sniper are way better at countering TA than any hero mentioned here. Batrider is really good but clinkz gets shredded so easily by psyblades. monkey is not a counter at all imo

[@FlymoutHM7031]

ill just say it... dazzle mid vs qop and vok feels so good!

[@arashiranfar858]

and TA ofc Dazzle is considered a counter to TA even in recent pro scene games

[@FlymoutHM7031]

@@arashiranfar858 true

[@Alan-dk1pf]

Please provide counters for clinkz, viper and kunkka. They r extremely difficult to lane with 😭

[@SilverForMonsters]

Stack up on 3 rings of armour for kunkka, upgrade one to basilius, get phase boots, that's all you need to lane against him

[@Alan-dk1pf]

@@SilverForMonsters buying 2-3 rings will merely help survive kunkka. How can one 'win' a lane against kunkka

[@SilverForMonsters]

I don't know that you can win against him with any certain hero, just survive and out play him

[@fonsbusico1369]

DK, kunka cant solo kill you with ur armor regen and hp.

[@SilverForMonsters]

Yeah try that

[@forsaken6937]

u forgot kunkka, but in my opinion,i counter kunkka with timber 😂

[@vsqshok]

Would like to know if there is a 'perfect' counter to mid morph. I did good in Laning stage with lina but still

[@ZivelaGeneracija95]

I had the misfortune of playing morph mid vs a brood. Its fine until level 4 or 5 and then you just cant do anything

[@finnmalicdem8496]

Qop is QUAP .made my day dude

[@Kyo199X]

I pronounce it kyop or just akasha.

[@mikisimonovski9512]

Thx for the advice and quide Speed, but you sure crack me up!! Secret.w33 another roster change!!! Hahahahha

[@ggnggaming4297]

make a pos 1 faceless void video

[@asdfggggga]

Skymage vs alch, storm Disruptor vs invoker, storm, od, puck, que Phoenix vs TA

[@xhrajin4212]

I just viper or ember against TA

[@amirashoury783]

all that true. IF you have the last pick. if not GG stay in archon

[@BJOOO-lk4by]

Storm vs viper is pretty sad too

[@ajifel3473]

"unless you're trash....kiddin" hahahaha

[@logboblogbob1969]

I don't play any of those heroes mid. What about Arc Warden? Who counters him mid, cuz I haven't run across many problems as Arc mid at all since I've started pub stomping with him.

[@BrunimMCD]

Lone Druid counters it, you can deny her creeps if u control him great, level 5 u get a root if u kill arc before his level 6 you will assure lane dominance, u can push before arc get his itens.

[@logboblogbob1969]

Neeto, thanks.

[@grtbgf]

Guys please do not pick timber mid to counter tinker, or beastmaster to counter invoker. We are jebaited.

[@carlosmontiel7078]

Before I keep watching, let me think about qop counters, uhmm, Kunkka and viper? 3k btw

[@weedeveryday3987]

You forgot the most important mid heroes , meepo huskar and sky what counters do they have?

[@jamessh9294]

meepo counters are end less : kunka earthshaker od timber or any hero with aoe control supports like lich and ww are gameover for meepo huskar counters are heroes with evasion and relatively high burst damage so wr phantom even mk can fuck with huskar As for sky he is very overrated once you get past his dominant laning if you can catch him its a free kill but as for mid pugna is a huge counter to sky nether makes it impossible for him to cast spells at any point in game kunka is solid vs sky as his high hp and tidebringer can destroy sky at any point in game meepo is a good pick as well as he can outfarm and kill sky at any point in game with enough experience hopefully this helps

[@Jeed92]

You might be rank80 but you have no idea of storm counters. Dk is no storm counter at all (the matchup favors storm easyly, in best case for dk he will have even farm and maybe 1 kill with gank help but thats it if the storm player knows at all what hes doin) Qop is definetly not a storm counter (even before lvl 6 its even, but after storm is lvl 6 qop cannot do anything anymore if both players have even skill).

[@painx2389]

Jeed92 im always picking ember and it works

[@Jeed92]

@@painx2389 it can go both ways because storm is so strong against all eroes in 1on1 who have to get close to him. but its defitnetly better than dk i agree

[@lonebrowvg5219]

Whats good against Sniper in lane?

[@nayefabohassan]

QOP , Razor,... I dont think it's hard to lane against a sniper :)

[@chucknorri2577]

Brood, QoP, Arc, Wind, DK is ok too (high armor)

[@oyuyuy]

Morph, Brood, Pudge, PA. Clinkz and Zeus are fine too.

[@ken-dt9jc]

i put am mid vs qop and he does not expect me to get lvl 1 E he eats her own dagger and after that he tries to fake but doesnt work lmao

[@amirheydari6104]

all these heros get counter by brood and meepo balance game

[@cacingngruwel90]

How about techies mid? I cant lane vs him

[@rael_esguerra1997]

Qop when u hear the bomb blink out. And harass him w/ q

[@varungollapalli4388]

'secret is picking for w33haa' ? Keepo? 4Head? Pepega?

[@DanielDota]

Where is my man kunkka

[@peep679]

Also you forgot lc is a counter to ember too

[@befree1797]

What about am mid v qop, i think i lt is a good pick but am is Type of dead in This fast gameplay meta, mb when the mega will slow a Little big am can be a good qop counter

[@befree1797]

@@gameleapdota2 i had played 3 or more anc games mid am v qop, and it wasnt that bad after all, i went agility build and tryied to haras qop. But after all am is Just a bad pick in This meta, and This hurst me becose i'm lvl 25 am and i cant even play my Hero on normal game

[@seannalangan1019]

You forgot silencer countering OD. I'm an OD spammer and it's hard when you're playing mid against that fucking silencer

[@avishkairoshan5383]

Mk can counter sf?

[@gotchie15dota]

in short, if mid lane is magic., u need tanky heroes..basics

[@sicheng_wang]

Back in the days when storm was a counter pick to ember

[@kougou48]

I don't agree, he is still a great laner against ember.

[@m7mdhunter33]

How conter sniper mid?

[@nicholepolicarpio5811]

Kunkka is a hard counter to almost Int mid heros. It is very hard to kill and has a very high kill potential. Dude, Some of your explanations are not legit including zeus countering tinker. Zeues can easily counter tinker because of nimbus and detection using ult. You also forgot meepo to include in the list. :(