Whenever I attack a bomber they're a fucking bullet sponge, but when I'm in a bomber I get pilot sniped by planes with nothing but 7.7's
@rurushu80947 жыл бұрын
Daniel Gerhardt The He-111 and Wellington
@ecdesperados55247 жыл бұрын
Chin Chin The Dark Lord Well the Wellington should be pretty well armored but it's too big to turn so I'm guessing when your engines go out you can't turn or make it back to base and the He-111 from what I know has little armor, I don't know for sure as I have never used it. Other than that I would recommend you just use American Bombers as they are the best. Avoid the Soviet ones the only good one they got is tu-4 lol
@rurushu80947 жыл бұрын
Daniel Gerhardt I started researching the bomber tech tree for the US, I've already reached tier 3 with the fighters but I'm still in tier 1 for the bombers
@willy-nilly12393 жыл бұрын
Same
@caturlifelive3 жыл бұрын
Same
@dr.michaelr.foreman21708 жыл бұрын
The rear gunners use to be the bain of my existence until I discovered some tricks: 1. Always make sure you have the right amount of gunners. If you bomber for example has 6 gunners but you have only 3 or 4 gunners, you are not going to get the results you need. If your plane has six gunners then, fully train 6 gunners. 2. Gunner Convergence: Most fighter pilots set their guns convergence for 300 or 400 metres at best. Therefore, I set my rear gunners convergence at 600m. I have found this is the best distance. By setting my gunners distance at that convergence my rear gunners start shooting at twice the distance of the fighters convergence. So, by time he get within his convergence, he is already shot to hell or dead. 3. In addition, I have found that after dropping my bombs and returning to base that, going into a ten degree decent makes me a harder target to hit, and gives both my top turret gunners and my belly gunners clear shot at the attacking fighter. Not only that but my bomber is much faster in a dive then most fighters can go. So, this way, I have all my gunners able to fire on the fighter, and I am pulling away from him too. OR, I throttle by bomber back to 30% thrust, and deploy the flaps keeping me nice and slow, and causing the fighter to overshoot me. BUT, by then he Is so close to my rear gunners they have no problem shooting him at such close range. What I have described is all using the AI. There does however, come times when the gunners are not killing the fighter fast enough to satisfy me, then I switch to the rear gunner and aim right at his engine. But to accomplish taking out his engine, I make sure I am using armour piercing ammo. This guarantees me, I take out his engine, and the shell is able to penetrate the pilots protective bullet proof glass. You mentioned the YER. I found the tactic I described above very effective in the YER. HECK one game I destroyed 4 fighters behind me, by going into a slight dive and letting just my AI gunners shoot them down. As soon as I dropped my bombs at 5k meters, I instantly turned towards our base, and went into a slight dive from their base to mine. Every fighter which got behind me, was destroyed doing this. I had the whole length of the map to descend back to my base to reload. Some attackers however, have tails which your rear gunner cannot shoot around. When in an attacker I will keep about 120m off the ground, this way, my rear gunner is always shooting up and not straight behind. Very few fighter pilots will drop that low, so you are almost always guaranteed your gunner will be shooting above your tail. And the odd fighter pilot who does over shoot and dives below you, you can shoot him with your front guns when he comes out on the other side in front of you.
@klesk4never8 жыл бұрын
Wow. I din't know that gun convergence applies to gunners. Tnx :)
@trinitystallion43877 жыл бұрын
Haylicon A the gunners would be firing at a far convergence so that mean that the bullets would be close together. It would do exactly as he said
@troynixon84977 жыл бұрын
This is really really good advice. I find the ai gunners fairly competent with training, ammo, long convergence, and good shooting angles like you said. More competent than me plus I can focus on flying well.
@TheIndignation7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I find that if you point enough points into # of experienced gunners, max out fire accuracy, put a lot of points pin precision, some g-tolerance, at least a bit in vitality, that the AI gun crews can do a pretty good job. Once I got them well upgraded, I'm really only getting shot down by good fighters who approach from a good angle and kill me on the first pass, and the other half the time I'll be able to shoot down enemy fighters (especially those who approach from the rear) before they can take me out. Of course oftentimes I'll sustain bad enough damage that I won't really be able to maneuver around to make multiple passes in AB, so that's a bummer - but hey, a kill is a kill.
@royaldarkness84535 жыл бұрын
uhm, so what your advice for air fight now ? , with the change for fighter cannon, and the bomber, it change in a way that I feel more than half of your advice no longer legit now
@x4jb9085 жыл бұрын
What? Bomber cant do head-ons??? Ju 87 D-5 w/ 8x 20mm: "Let me introduce myself"
@c00kedmilk5 жыл бұрын
6 20mm*
@c00kedmilk5 жыл бұрын
@@das3610 ah yea my bad, I thought it was 4 in the gunpods.
@igotdainfinitystones77605 жыл бұрын
Try the B25-J1
@f4fphantomii4685 жыл бұрын
That's not a bomber. It's CAS
@thecoolguy74035 жыл бұрын
hit the tip of your wing into them and try to land with 1.5 wings
@cd-studios73493 жыл бұрын
me in lancaster when bombing targets : I’m doing this dam-busters style
@lobster53644 жыл бұрын
Me : **dogfighting with HE-111-H16** Also me : **gets shot by P51** Me : **surprised pikachu face**
@robinwiggie7 жыл бұрын
But there is No aircraft who has a reticicle on the ground in realistic Battles
@jakobbril80816 жыл бұрын
Robin Wiggie the recticle in realistic was removed
@lukabenedicic1476 жыл бұрын
yeah bombers are useless in realistic now
@antebudimir40655 жыл бұрын
@@memeygamer4381 true
@Drgunzo6165 жыл бұрын
I miss the reticle. It was OP.
@x3-LSTR-5125 жыл бұрын
@@lukabenedicic147 F7
@nunoroberto87137 жыл бұрын
"The Bowel fighter" I like that plane :P
@minifitz6467 жыл бұрын
how come every war thunder video i watch, they say recticle, when it is clearly reticle
@xboxgamer96807 жыл бұрын
Here's another tip, when an enemy dives on you and you weren't expecting to, go the same way the tracers are going, countless times ive done the boom and zoom on an enemy and they roll into the wrong way and die
@lucid51832 жыл бұрын
Regarding 7:08 and the gunners and all that, setting the "pitch axis" in the settings to a mouse button works really well for me overall in warthunder and when in the gunner's view you can decently dodge enemy gunfire while still being in the gunners view. It is quite late to this topic, but it is highly recommended to mess around with this. The setting I use that works wonders for me is "Maximum value = MB4 and Minumum value = MB5". What it does in short is it makes the plane go up and down. Good luck on your War Thunder adventures.
@stonebridge1578 жыл бұрын
I find my rear gunners AI are really good. It also depends on if you lvl on them on the crew lvl.
@cock44467 жыл бұрын
Im playing the G8N1, my gunners are maxed everywhere and they cant hit shit, im also down with 1 or 2 hits
@Loregamorl7 жыл бұрын
Ston3bridg3 Viking exactly, up their precision and accuracy
@randomuser54434 жыл бұрын
My crew is maxed. They can’t aim anymore
@hardcrypt15425 жыл бұрын
4:47 Ahem....AIRBREAK SIR!
@claudiapamfile79278 жыл бұрын
The ju87 tail twin MG81 is one of the more effective gunner in the game for what it is, due to the nature of the stuka of being an easy kill. It will demolish and light on fire all of the enemies you face off, although facing cannon wielding planes will make you sad.
@arcturus47626 жыл бұрын
Yak-9T says hi
@pouletbidule98313 жыл бұрын
@@arcturus4762 u ain't meeting 9ts at 2.3 anytime soon
@arcturus47623 жыл бұрын
@@pouletbidule9831 Do you think fridge-launching cannon-wielding plen cares? I mean, it kinda does, BUT DO YOU THINK IT CA-
@mr.rubicon1193 Жыл бұрын
Ive had the pleasure of flying a B25 including sitting in the tail gun seat. What a great view.
@AndreasVictorsson8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video - I picked up some good tips ^-^ I never realized *why* one should use timed bombs instead of assault fuse but I've been blown up by my own bombs quite a few times... I never connected the dots :)
@BradaTemplar8 жыл бұрын
No problem! I'm happy to make it!
@BIOSHOCKFOXX4 жыл бұрын
@1:15 - works only in arcade and kind of in tank RB, but you wont get out alive, 20% chance only, since you'll be downed soon after by a swarm of fighters and whatnot, so basically such tactic is one way trip. Going high above by circling around own base or behind own base (spawn) can let you climb high and stay there at least until you bomb something and get to the next site, only few will be able to climb that high that fast, and fewer will even notice you if your team will keep them busy.
@elliottrefz75974 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a game where you fly a bomber and you team up with a friend so you can work together to change jobs like someone could maneuver while someone else guns
@T600INFILTRATOR7 жыл бұрын
You've earned yourself a sub. You're a very underrated WT KZbinr.
@lllIlllIllllI7 жыл бұрын
I play wit hmy friend alot, when i go a bomber and he is escorting me he always just dies... But when he is a bomber i always some how manage to defend him
@gooseguy91484 жыл бұрын
I hate it when he says "your not gonna make it out I'm afraid" all the time. Or is it just me?
@lukachikhladze24044 жыл бұрын
The bombers have changed A LOT over these four years. Just started to play this month, I am currently rank three and I nearly always play as a bomber. The dive, bomb and leave tactic isn't really working anymore, because before you get to the target the fighters are already right in your face and you are down (especially if it is a spitfire). What I do is go up up in the sky (5000 alt.) and go for the target. I try to be on a straight line with the target, so that I dont have to turn in the last moment. Then, if there are too many clouds, I go down below the clouds, so that I can see the target. Then I press f7 and when the crossair is right on the target, I bomb it. I usually tend to use bigger bombs in smaller amounts. On high altitudes as 5000 even a slight second makes a difference, so having twelve little bombs is a no-no. then I turn and go up, at that time I hold 3 to see how the bombs are going. I 89% hit the target with all of the bombs, destroying it or leaving a little for other bombers/fighters/attackers who can finish it off. And I return to the base. I hope this helps for war thunder 2020.
@berkerbuger75783 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I started as İtalian bombers and totally new to the game, missed both of my 500kgs. Sucks to miss 'em.
@berkerbuger75783 жыл бұрын
Also, how do you climb to 5k? Spiraling till you hit 4k? And one more, I tend to think I lined it up well, then I figure I'm a bit off, how do you line up, by pilot shooting screen? Playing at 'realistic' when I learn to do it well, maybe I'll go for simulation as well.
@a.d.studioa.dstudio.13442 жыл бұрын
useful tip for medium plane bomber : always fly near to ground
@nicolaslandicho87695 жыл бұрын
My A.I gunners on my Hampden Mark 1 are amazing, they can land crits really easily
@agravemisunderstanding96689 ай бұрын
In the early stukas, it's actual a lot more viable to sit in the gunner seat, you aren't out turning a biplane, but you can outrun them in a straight line, tank most of their weak mgs, and your gunner will light them on fire pretty quick if you know how to aim, Also if you turn you expose your cockpit whereas if you head-on or fly away you have armour between your pilot and gunner and the enemy fire
@hectroagario47836 жыл бұрын
Very good tips. Thanks
@nicholascamp61167 жыл бұрын
I fly the ju 87 a lot and figured out that if you know you can't outrun or out turn them, then use the gunner. If you use the right type of ammunition, you can destroy with the back gunners.
@scouttrooperhh-14875 жыл бұрын
AI or you shooting?
@Igoreuss4 жыл бұрын
Actually B-25 is pretty agile now. Maybe they buffed it.
@jussi8111 Жыл бұрын
allways hurts my heart and soul to see videos about the good old days of WT when the game had a soul and gaijin didnt try to become wargaming
@horse._ Жыл бұрын
thanks for teaching me about grass cutting. I love it
@robertbalazslorincz82183 жыл бұрын
What you can do with some aircraft (if you know where the indicator would be) is to combine the lawnmoving and divebombing tactics, basicly approach the target at a 30-45 degree angle. This will give you speed to shoot back out, but won't give you too much.
@Big_Berg2 жыл бұрын
2:22 Thats why you play arcade mode
@fionn76315 жыл бұрын
I just get my friends in bf 109's to escort me
@JohnyMilkBucket4 жыл бұрын
The dive bomb rlly worked for me like really
@hornet14703 жыл бұрын
"Extreme Overload 1G" Me: Ahh yes, earth gravity is now unlivable.
@screamingenderhawk87394 жыл бұрын
I used grass cutting but I can't anymore because my fuse won't change from 1.5 seconds so if I drop a bigger bomb like a 500kg bomb I will die
@ceppoc6 жыл бұрын
How do I use the bomb view so I can see when and where it lands? Like the view that follows the bomb to the ground? Please answer would be really helpful
@bluebrave36556 жыл бұрын
A Ceratosaurus Said press V or f7
@hamzasami83626 жыл бұрын
Hold the button that u drop ur bomb with. For me, I hold space because I dropped it by pressing space
@lorenzooliveira11573 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, you can use U, hold it and in like 2 seconds you’ll see your last dropped bomb
@ohayoch.4 жыл бұрын
Well the IL 2 can take alot of hit and can go head on especially the IL 2 (1942) those 23mm canon can rip a plane apart in seconds
@Humphree5 жыл бұрын
The optimal plane for gun camera is the BV 238
@lucassmith45242 жыл бұрын
There IS a trick to dropping without a reticle. I just forget what it is.
@generalprincecodyhedgewolf29442 жыл бұрын
Heres a useful advice: SOME planes have Air brakes (Dive Bombers specifically
@Sal_Vito7 жыл бұрын
Fine work... thanks for your efforts!
@krendaxstuff76358 жыл бұрын
I do both grass cutting and dive bombing and I found that I, out of habit, do grass cutting.
@polrosario37075 жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial,loved it
@nikotvshow4 ай бұрын
This will probably come out of nowhere... but im really watching 8y.o. video of war thunder and the explosions and crashes effects look a lot of better than the new ones ??
@Kinghans-fc1do3 ай бұрын
they were changed in the "new power" update, was massive visual overhaul. I personally find the new ones a lot better
@47_jordan5 жыл бұрын
You are so good am so bad because I can’t even hit an ai
@bassembeshai57445 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you for this video.
@wiegerkieboom24317 жыл бұрын
I have around 1250 battles in bomber wich 750 are b17s I land with the b17 in a grassfield and I ride to some light philboxes and I kill them with my gunners and than i take off and fly to another field
@troynixon84977 жыл бұрын
I never considered that
@benp94427 жыл бұрын
wieger kieboom thats a another way of doing it😂😂😂
@attilagyorgybalogh28692 жыл бұрын
i have 1 simple question what is the keybin for dropping bombs ?
@dragon1warrior7 жыл бұрын
If your have a hard time at the game as a bomber then get the tu-4 it has the best gunners it can pilot snipe
@fidan2fast4 жыл бұрын
Avoid head on Me flying an IL2: LOL I'm a fighter now
@IGNACY-fp8zo4 жыл бұрын
Vehicles who have a bomber view should still have the reticle
@AxelKuno6 жыл бұрын
I ususally find that if one fucker starts to dive and bomb and then die the rest of us are kinda safe in high altitude because everyone went for that fucker
@derpyallan14357 жыл бұрын
I remember always diving and flying tree top level with most of the heavy bombers back then trying to rush all of the bases (best ones were Halifax and Tu4) It was pretty effective especially with the Halifax and Tu4 but I feel like it's way more risky than it was before especially with the Italians and some weapon buffs Also I haven't done it recently because I don't use bombers that much but if the map (RB) has clouds covering most of it then it's best to dive with engines off, prop feathering on, and gunners off to go full stealth mode I've had enemy jets pass by my Tu4 so close I saw their wings and I was completely ignored by them but it has only happened twice and that was way before I stopped playing bombers
@hiortintexasracing3 жыл бұрын
How do you get that reticle outside the aircraft ?
@thechronicle14913 жыл бұрын
Not every bird has it, some do and some dont.
@dr.michaelr.foreman21704 жыл бұрын
UPGRADE YOUR REAR GUNNERS TO EXPERT OR BETTER- TO ACE. I never go into the gunner seat. I will stay in the pilot seat and do evasive maneuvers with the plane to make me a hard target to hit. When your gunners are fully upgraded they are accurate to 6600 meters. They are quicker firing and quicker turning and lining up on the enemy planes attacking you. For instance, recently, in my bomber coming onto an enemy airfield to drop my bombs, I was attacked by a 4 planes at once. Before I dropped my bombs, my AI rear gunners had shot down 3 attacking planes and the 4th so severely damaged they had to break off the attack and later crashed trying to land. If I have any plane with rear gunner(s), it is my first priority to upgrade those rear gunners as quickly as possible. It is so frustrating to have friends whom I have flown with for years, and still refuse to upgrade their rear gunners.
@solidcoal81313 жыл бұрын
I was more wondering how shoot down fighter while being a gunner not a common sense guide
@trepkas8 жыл бұрын
I love the B-17 and im going for the B-29 Cruz the B-29 is such a great bomber
@Audeeeze7 жыл бұрын
I ONE TIME WAS INNA B 25 AND ALMOST NEAR HOME AIRFIELD AND I WAS FOCUSING ON LANDING WHEN ALL OVE A SUDDEN I heard one short burst from the top ai turret and on my screen said aircraft destroyed and a Yak 3 was destroyed
@redalertiscool51724 жыл бұрын
Basicaly escorting a bomber means a kill for you cose theres gonna be that one dude who tries to take him down
@purplemamba126 жыл бұрын
Really good tips
@Reptle_4 жыл бұрын
How to see the bombs falling? Please answer
@Albert.Schlosser4 жыл бұрын
Reptile072 hold the spacebar down
@Reptle_4 жыл бұрын
@@Albert.Schlosser ok but when i want to se them while i am in Air i hold It but drop another bomb
@Albert.Schlosser4 жыл бұрын
Reptile072 if u wanna see the First bomb u cant let go of the spacebar When u drop the bomb
@meetsthexavier18026 жыл бұрын
After cannon buff is impossible to play with bombers now
@cptcool-__-75014 жыл бұрын
thx bro this helped
@livinginagony4 жыл бұрын
it wouldnt let me drop bombs in a match
@mr.protein84763 жыл бұрын
how come when i bomb a base with a large amount of light bombs it ends up with more damage than with the 1000kg bombs?
@Delta42807 жыл бұрын
One thing he doesn't mention is some bombers/attackers also have the option of dogfighting (like the Ju-87 B-2 and R-2 variants)
@sir_duckington12455 жыл бұрын
I use Frontline bombers for what they made of NOT dive bombing
@f4fphantomii4685 жыл бұрын
Yep. They don't dive bomb, they fly above the battlefield and drop their bombs in enemy forts/Enemy Units. They're actually Tactical bombers.
@sir_duckington12455 жыл бұрын
@@f4fphantomii468 then why everyone fucking dive bombin the shet out of stuff XD
@inquisitivebatman20197 жыл бұрын
When I dive bomb in my bomber with my combat flaps it snaps of and I just fall
@Porouskilldeathratio7 жыл бұрын
dont use combat flaps, if your bomber has airbrakes you can use them with H If not, dont use flaps when dive bombing.
@troynixon84977 жыл бұрын
Don't use flaps above 200 mph good rule of thumb. Maybe a little faster, be careful.
@inquisitivebatman20197 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@m1co2944 жыл бұрын
Im still new to the game (although im starting to get better) and i main the ju-87 b-2, i feel bad for the fighters i took down with it, they got absolutely demolished by a slow dive bomber
@hermanzegerman59126 жыл бұрын
i my self go to 1500m and than go streagth down and quickly pull up and do it again,so the aa guns cant realy get me
@bobenson7207 жыл бұрын
this must be a great video to have no dislikes
@jamesprice46686 жыл бұрын
Very nice!!!!
@srpskihayk5 жыл бұрын
Is this the tag for paul joseph watson? This guy sounds just like him.
@mileskhan56837 жыл бұрын
What the hell is the use of the Stuka? I can't hit targets smaller than a base.
@rebeccarodriguez69454 жыл бұрын
Alright, let’s go to Japan
@sc0pe_raid9204 жыл бұрын
How do you get a bomb plane?
@allsome56756 жыл бұрын
Don't you hate it when you try to give tips and it falls anyways because people have different opinions
@shutupbeyatch35234 жыл бұрын
How do you drop the bombs plz as it what do your press on your xbox one controller to drop them?
@pfeffermartin6423 жыл бұрын
nice explained -- but if i go in gunner view i can still maneouver my aircraft ehen i change in settings excuse my english
@Kursae_6 жыл бұрын
With the bomber scope, you drop the bomb in the middle of the cross?
@devildog11786 жыл бұрын
cool thanks for the help!!
@jamestucker32227 жыл бұрын
ty good help
@nokyz_noob7 жыл бұрын
Whats your first favourite bomber nation, second nation and third nation ?
@kekblob7 жыл бұрын
Its called a Retical NOT A Rectial!!!!!!
@JegiDobrak6 жыл бұрын
0:45 how did you make that aim spot on the ground? I have same bomber and it will help me so much? Is it avaible in realistic mod?
@lukabenedicic1476 жыл бұрын
they removed it, so bombers suck in realistic now
@anonymoushunter98085 жыл бұрын
How do you open bomb bay doors by pressing a button instead of it doing itself?.
@HI-me3td5 жыл бұрын
Bind it in the controls
@yosefpolinsky76677 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much for ur advice and effort.
@devildog11786 жыл бұрын
for example would the Catalina and premium plane B 10B have good guns and armour cause im not sure
@tadeasbeniak35526 жыл бұрын
DD117 mollydog i dont know about the B10 but catalina isnt very agile so probably yes
@antonitomasik89466 жыл бұрын
What about the Wellington gunners ?
@romo43928 жыл бұрын
I do divebombs with timed fuses right and plane is right on my tail I drop my timed bombs on a triple aa and the bomb killed the fighter
@burbasaurexe4 жыл бұрын
can you make an modern tutorial niow in 2020 the game is changed alot, and i would like to see how to improve skill at 5.7 with my b17 before go with b29
@bambipaglatis27186 жыл бұрын
What ammo is best to kill Tanks and Pillboxes??
@osoreru43814 жыл бұрын
I can be at 11G with the bombers and enemies cut off my tail in one shot from 2.5km
@thecoolguy74035 жыл бұрын
I dropped a cookie on some ships and got 5 kills I think you can use big bombs on little targets
@mightymichael25016 жыл бұрын
Is a Lancaster mk1 worth going into gunners
@gwalchavad20477 жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid!
@colincampbell36797 жыл бұрын
When playing WT.. I am say flying a Russian early bomber, it is a good bomber although bit slow. but the front mounted wing guns are brill. and the turret gunner is very good AI.. You can be bombing a enemy then while waiting for the bombs to reload turn and shoot down enemy fighters very well indeed? the only thing gets me, is how can a enemy fighter not only outfly you but with one shot knock out your pilot even though your taking lots of random flying actions or blow of your wing or both wings with such ease? Really a huge pain.
@troynixon84977 жыл бұрын
Bomber cockpits are made of glass mostly, raise your pilot vitality it helps a lot, also try to not let them get a long look at you head on.
@dezz5704 жыл бұрын
wat to press to bomb
@shutupbeyatch35234 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where we can get Eagle Shields on PS4 plz new player here but need some information on PS4 how to get bombs and others for the aircraft plz and thanks