WT - Beginners Guide Part 4, Defensive Maneuvers

This tutorial covers what to do when there's a plane on your six, avoiding interceptors and Boom and Zoom defense, and dodging head-ons. Note: This video is intended for Arcade players - many of the maneuvers shown here may not work as well in Realistic Battles and would be disastrous if attempted in SB mode.
If you'd like to support me in my creative endeavors, you can do so at / long5hot
The movie clip at beginning & end is from a film called "The German", which can be seen here - player.vimeo.com/video/3120290...

[@jack88536]

For Personal Use.. Table of Content 0:15 Introduction 0:48 The Hard Break 3:04 The Climbing Spiral 7:18 Scissors 9:31 Split S Reversal 13:13 Boom and Zoom Defense 17:22 Head-on Evasion 18:38 Guns Defense

[@ashishdeharia9137]

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[@plchan1160]

ur the best

[@MattproThe]

damn.. i reinstalled WarThunder after 2 years without playing, i still remember most of things i learn from you Longshot, you made me a great pilot in-game, i miss your videos a lot, hope you are doing well :)

[@bo-cephus]

as a new player who used this to geat effect, yes

[@dbg5744]

I've watched all your vids and studied them hard, practiced in training mode and now, after a few days of solid training and refining i usually always come first on my team, 3 being the lowest position. I personally use Hurricanes (not the best, but tough) and it is irrelevant what a planes turning speed is, if you know what you are doing you can be a god among men in the sky with anything. I now implement the same strategies in RB with decent success. Thank you for your tutorials, they really opened my eyes.

[@thepope2811]

DBG yes I agree I have shot down planes with dive bombers with a full load

[@davidbradford4105]

@@thepope2811 DB2 by chance? Watched someone rack up 7-9 kills a game in one.

[@vosswatter]

How have you been able to get away from Boom and Zoom attacks with heavier fighters i.e. P47 or P38 lightning? I have been having some real difficulty avoiding Bf 109's when they dive on me and even when I do escape, I'll flip over expecting them to overshoot only to realize they've turned into me as well.

[@dbg5744]

@@vosswatter always difficult against BF 109s. They are BnZ gods. Though you can either climb and try to match their altitude negating, for the most part, their ability to BnZ or get close to the ground. That might scare off a few because many won't risk diving if you hug the terrain. But that brings up its only problems. Dog fighters mainly. Though a trick to combat BnZ is to turn into their path. Never turn away. Because they will be on you once again. Turning into their path causes them to over shoot and they will have to climb. Which you can use to better position your self or tuck in behind them. Split S is also a decent tactic to use. Advised, even. But it has been a long while since I played War thunder. Just things off of the top of my head..

[@vosswatter]

@@dbg5744 thank you! That makes things much easier since the P47 was never known for its agility. I've been playing American since I first started playing (about 2 months ago) which is not very beginner friendly as I have learned. However I am determined and your advice is very helpful

[@TokugawaDio]

Two 11 kills right after watching your videos. Thanks a lot

[@long5hot]

you're welcome!

[@CastlesLaw1911]

Hey I don’t know if you still play or work your channel but I wanted to say thanks. These videos made me a way better player and wingman for my buddy who plays air arcade. I’ve come back to you half a dozen times to learn and relearn more. Whenever I find myself getting wrecked you have my answers. Thank you

[@josephstalin5751]

You really helped me out with my BF109. I’m now getting about 9 kills every match and still mainly die but it’s worth it. I just hope your doing good right now. You really helped me out when I was about to stop playing. So thank you for everything. Wish you luck

[@uncleardistress]

Ok. This is absolutely THE BEST Damn tutorial series for War Thunder. Hands down. Thank you Lon5shot for putting these together. Really fantastic stuff. Legendary. Still relevant in 2020

[@tristinalg8245]

Love the vids, Longshot. You deserve more views. I'm sure you know there are a lot of maneuver guides for warthunder here in the tubes, but a lot of them were made towards its initial release. I'm glad to see guides that apply to the game in its current state. Thanks!

[@sweetiebelle1668]

Ah, so that's what you were talking about when you said you out-turned a Chaika with the Ki-61's rudder :) Very nice video- a lot of great advice that I'm sure will be of help to beginner AND intermediate players. Showing both points of view is definitely worthwhile, as it isn't always obvious what your opponent is experiencing.

[@long5hot]

Well, on reflection there's things I didn't show - such as how to avoid someone while keeping your energy high in order to gain a reversal not by forcing an overshoot but by gaining an energy advantage. All those sharp breaks etc have their cost in terms of speed loss. I guess they're good enough though for 90% of your typical Arcade encounters.

[@drunktroll4042]

Perla!!! I have watched this many times when reacquainting myself with af arcade in warthunder and always helps to polish the blade 😊 Thanks Long5hot

[@sccojake]

Great job Long5hot! Very informative and helpful. I know I need to work on my defensive flying and this should help a lot. I totally understand your desire to take a break, but I hope it's not too long for you shall be missed.

[@J._.R577]

This is the most helpful maneuver video I’ve ever seen. Alright time to win some more games.

[@txthtxth]

Hello longshot, good to see you're uploading videos. I wanted to recommend you the Ebook name "in pursuit". It's written by a WWII pilot and while it's meant to help more to people playing other (more realistic if I might say so,) WWII games, I found it to be quite helpful even in the unrealistic tug of war that is war thunder arcade.

[@photoshopedcountryballs5094]

i see this is 4 yrs old but if you can tell me where can i find that book

[@Air-Striegler]

How very nice to see you back, Longshot! Very well done video - as usual! keep the good work up. - See you in the skies!

[@htin24]

Thanks for ur vidoe. They are very clear and i learn a lot from them.Listening to ur voice like watching a documentry. Thanks

[@SpearHead1011]

Thanks for posting these! I used some of these tactics in game and offensively I got my best ever, 9 kills in one game. However, I still need ti work on my defensive tactics as I lost 4 aircraft. Thanks again!

[@TheLooking4sunset]

Some amazing mentoring right there. Thank you sir, you have the answers to my questions, i am impressed

[@Molybdan42]

Great video as always. Looks like a lot of editing work. Nevertheless I would also be happy to see some gameplay footage of you. It's always a joy to see you fly.

[@thebigfriend9847]

Quality of the player community can only be improved through better...education. Hopefully more people will watch these vids. Keep up the good work :)

[@jonjones820]

Dude, your lesson. videos are the Best! Thank you very much for doing these (and for helping make me a better pilot. Kudos times one billion.

[@nonfique429]

You do a fantastic job with teaching new players - like me - about the strategies we should use to be more successful, so I wanted to say thanks to you for all the effort you put in making these videos :) Although I'm sad because you are taking a break from the game, since you said that you do not enjoy the game as much as you did in the past because of the new changes patch 1.45 has offered I think it is a step in the right direction - even though I'm not here to judge you :) We should play games to enjoy them and stop playing if that enjoyment is no longer present. PS: That Bf-109 skin with the red nose tip and black-gray painting (I believe it was a E-3 skin) looks nice. I searched the web a little and could not find it, can you or someone give the link to the file on the web if possible?

[@long5hot]

Hey NF, firstly the skin can be downloaded from live.warthunder.com/post/27386/ Two things have made me take a break from WT - wall to wall clouds and short games, often both together. I had a terrible run of them and felt like throwing my mouse at the screen, so it was time to step back and do things which I actually enjoy rather than playing a game that induces frustration & rage (I'm a very calm person IRL). I'll be back playing, indeed I dropped on for a couple of quick games tonight.

[@nonfique429]

novocas7rian I somewhat dislike clouds too, they are good for dynamic/realistic maps part where maps we play differ from one game to another but the amount of clouds force players to go dogfight at lower altitudes or have a bad game fighting the enemy within the clouds. On the short games part though, I was always thinking that we as a team didn't do our job at killing their bombers or simply they had too much bombers that our bomber hunters could not catch up killing them, so we lost. As a new player I usually can't figure out the reason why did we win or lose, simply because I can't see the big picture in most of the games. Also, now that I think of it, maybe - if you have the time - you can address this issue in this series, give tips about following the gameplay or knowing the reason that caused one team to lose, etc. I'd gladly appreciate it :)

[@zoojuice7893]

I played war thunder for a while and i wasent good but when i watched your guides i got very better like surviving attacks geting more kills and getting more RP.All i can say is thank you

[@mar61182]

Awesome Video long5shot !!!! Many thanks .

[@sgt_juk3m83]

Keep doing these videos THEY ARE WORTH LIFE!!

[@jervonics2112]

Great Job, you have drastically improved my gameplay!

[@chimp3po1]

I think I may have just played a game with you on the US server! Your videos are great, they really helped me when I was playing Warthunder Air a lot.

[@long5hot]

Yes quite possibly, I just finished a bunch of 3.0 BR games squadded up with Setch. Glad the vids are helpful :)

[@thefredkalis]

you have done a very good job easy to understand . thank you and greetings from France .

[@pmurphy5948]

These are freaking EPIC!!

[@staringdowna45]

I'll freely admit I'm not very good at War Thunder, but I enjoy the game. But this video has helped me immensely. I'm still not very good, but I certainly survive longer now, and for that thank you.

[@joefarah06]

This game is too fun. I’m losing sleep in favor of playing

[@thesaltyhotdog3761]

You shouldn't do that. Lack of sleep can severely damage your health, can make you short tempered, and it can prevent you from thinking straight. Only play when you need a bit of rest but not when you have already gone through a lot of unhappy emotions.

[@josephstalin5751]

I can sometimes find the fun in this game. The grind sucks dick and most of the time I get killed by some dickface in a P47 that I never saw. I can’t even fucking spawn because I just die by 4 guys on me. How do you guys not lose your fucking mind trying to play?

[@lilbigmac5824]

Same

[@Sideways_social]

Dude same and I just got it last week

[@anxiousearth680]

@@josephstalin5751 Calm down Stalin kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKTIl3psoLZsrNE /s In all seriosness, I'm a noob but I hope your games get better.

[@Thetepkai]

Learning to do the climbing spiral made a huge difference to this game for me as i am now able to rope a dope and get the reversal on other players so much easier its "almost" unfair.

[@long5hot]

***** Yep, the climbing spiral is so overpowered - its amazing how much of an advantage it gives you.

[@invalidusername6809]

After much practice I have finally learnt to do a climbing spiral. It isn't perfect and it took longer than it should have to learn but I've got it now.

[@travistaylor3186]

Another excellent video! Thank you

[@oceanbytez847]

Thanks for the tips. im off to practice to compensate for my Yak's average turn rate. I figured the attacking stuff out myself. getting reversals is harder than it looks though.

[@colewebb9881]

It’s 2021 and this is still helpful!!!

[@xtcMakc]

Great tuts, thanks a lot.

[@easyaussietarget3355]

Great video mate, very good standard indeed!

[@topsecret1837]

Believe it or not, but this is also a great guide for an app on iOS, called Wings of Duty. It's a very good game that can use the methods you teach.

[@underthewater_]

I might have missed it, but a I thought a helpful peace of advice is to use speed deceptively. Or, in the attackers position, to throttle back to prevent overshoot. It would seem counter-intuitive. But it's always gratifying to really stick on someone's tail because you've throttled back to counter their scissors. I don't know how much this should be used because you sacrifice speed for a single positional advantage. But it's helped me simplify engagements, to allow me another chance at a shot.

[@mwbev]

+Colby Paradiso Just use a yoyo-maintains energy and prevents over shoot

[@belanpe2010]

Great hints. Will definitely practice my keyboard techniques.

[@fernandoi3389]

Amazing video!! thanks ! helped me a lot!

[@MarcoBecker]

Awesome video! Thank you.

[@JM-tu8mg]

It would be awesome if you could also share what are the keys that you pressed when doing these maneuvers! Lots of time I don't know which button should I press and what would the plane move after I did that. It would be super super helpful to study these. Btw great videos! Very informative and practical!

[@danieldeleon941]

Hello longshot I'm one of newer viewers/followers and Ive shared your guides to members of my clan and I can say our matches have gotten alot more enjoyable. I do like to ask though ive noticed alot of video's are classified as beginner guide and I was woundering if any plans for advance guides

[@long5hot]

Daniel Deleon To be honest, the beginners guides pretty quickly leap into advanced territory, with the whole energy fighting topic being something that the vast majority of Arcade War Thunderers (and many RB players) never really understand. The individual plane guides probably take things a bit further, also the new "Analyze This" series I just started will hopefully provide plenty of opportunity to explore more in-depth concepts and tactics as well, depending of course on the replays that people send me.

[@tojiroh]

I can't remember who pointed this out to me, but you can also gain the upper hand heads on if you face slightly off to the approaching bogey's vector, and at close range give a bit of rudder to get him on the cross-hairs. Risky and not to the faint of heart, not my got to escape to be sure, but if you're feeling daring... Why not? ;-)

[@patchedupdemon7104]

i have became much better since following your tutorials,i just want to say a big thank you. im struggling with my camera work.is it possible you could do a tutorial on it. every time i try and look at some one while doing a loop the camera never goes back to default and i cant tell where im going if that makes sense

[@182Nym182]

beautiful tutorials...it's like watching documentary series

[@jodejoja2896]

cant seem to maneuver , im 100% USA planes , i like the game but get very little time to play as i cant get enouth money from battles for repairs 3 of 10 battles i get maybe 5k others less cant seem to get good but i like watching your videos , very good :)

[@BUBBENVAN]

not enough hits for the quality of your videos. Subscribed

[@NeilManongsong]

great vid! i learned a lot!

[@seiner0ne]

2019. Watching your videos help so much, i die less and i get 1 or 2 kills most matches. I still need to work on my aim. I still get shot down when i climb after performing a boom n zoom

[@bob967]

Love your videos :D Only problem I have is knowing more people will employ these manoeuvres and escape my attacks XD

[@long5hot]

Heh, well, I only have about 1800 subscribers which is just a drop in the ocean. I don't think you need worry too much ;)

[@Leo-xk2oi]

Well done Tutorial! :D

[@johnniewalker6236]

Awesome content.

[@long5hot]

thanks!

[@Statwoir]

This is the frustrating issue with War Thunder, the rudder can somehow out turn the wing. It gets so much roght for the feel for flying, but that is just nonsense. Great videos mate. Keep them coming.

[@long5hot]

Yep its true - rudder should not turn the plane as much as it does, nor should it do so with negligible speed loss. In using rudder turns I'm not flying as a real pilot would, but instead I'm blatantly exploiting the messed-up physics in this game :\

[@Statwoir]

Absolutely, I have learned the hard way as I try to use the manoeuvrability of the Spit against something that should be less manoeuvrable, only to see a very strange high speed rudder turn which becomes my undoing. Shame, most of the flight model feels so right, which is why I play it.

[@Antifaith29]

Ive found these videos extremely helpful and thank you for posting them. Just curious if you have a specific method of camera control or if its just something you have to get used to. Seems to be my main issue right now, keeping eyes on my target while maneuvering. Cheers mate.

[@long5hot]

Antifaith29 When I'm maneuvering using keys for elevator/rudder, I don't use the C key for looking around as it isn't needed - mouse aim isn't active while a tail control key's pressed, so you can look around as much as you like without snap-back. Maybe that's it?

[@nellydog01]

This is the best war thunder videos on you tube . Which key is the elevator key??

[@long5hot]

You'll find the answer in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYvMd3yejc56eqc

[@effiedeia1850]

I love your videos! They're so in depth and informative! What is the name of the clip at the beginning of your video?

[@long5hot]

That's from a film called "The German".

[@effiedeia1850]

novocas7rian Thanks! There is a short film called "Paths of Hate" that you would enjoy. (If you have not already seen it.)

[@sharangcool]

any other movies or clips you can recommend that has some great WW2 air combat? Please don't say Pearl harbour :)

[@long5hot]

Corypheus I was going to say Red Tails (joking of course). Look I honestly don't know. Perhaps some of the old Pacific war films - Tora Tora Tora and Battle of Midway might be worth watching?

[@effiedeia1850]

Corypheus Battle of Britain.

[@markn8671]

Lon5shot is the bob ross of warthunder

[@JamesBjorkSax]

Another great guide, thanks! One thing I've wondered about is if you can't dodge head-on encounters, how can you WIN them? Why is it that I get pwned in these nine times out of ten? I hope you might cover that at some point.

[@long5hot]

To be honest, while I occasionally mastered head-ons and would go through periods where I'd win most of them, I'd then have a sequence of encounters where I was shot down. I do cover aiming in the head-on in the How to Aim video, but my enemy was a slow ping leading to poor hit detection, hence I always found it better to evade and look for a way to engage that doesn't let the other guy shoot back.

[@mickwrinkles2318]

Great vid and thx for the tipps. There are still some things I don't get about the climbing spiral: You say that you are holding rudder and the up elevator. Why is it then that your plane does not go into an increasingly steeper climb, but keeps a flat climb angle(which would never happen if you hold the up elevator)?

[@long5hot]

The answer is the speed - notice it drops off very quickly. Very few planes will be able to lift the nose up too far at 140km/h. I'm taking the plane right to the edge of its performance, and using the spiral technique to wring more out of the plane than would be possible if I was banking the plane to turn & climb.

[@mickwrinkles2318]

Aha, so I was doing it with too much speed then. Thx for helping us/me advance.

[@doomshax2447]

useful and already know all of them but the defensive climb thanks now my Do-17 heavy fighter will live

[@compfox]

Hi. Learned a lot about energy and b&z from your tutorials. Very good. But when it comes to keyboard assisted flying as discribed here, I can`t get anything right when I try your keystroke advices.( Flying Me109 and FW190 in RB mode.) Hard break or climbing spiral only results in wild loops and other crazy horse behaviour. Anything I missed in setting up my keyboard ?

[@long5hot]

Reinhard Breuer Well, bear in mind that these videos are for Arcade mode where the flight models are more forgiving. Even in Arcade, FW190s are not great at hard maneuvers and I generally avoid using the keyboard for elevators & rudder. Its planes with stronger turning abilities that benefit most from keyboard use & that's the case in RB as well, so I wouldn't worry too much about using the keyboard with your German fighters, except for the roll keys of course.

[@compfox]

long5hot Thanks, thats my experiance too, so far. I´d really would like a mode to use joystick and mouse more than keyboard and mouse. Like shooting in gunner view with mouse while controling the plane by stick.

[@HAHA-ht6zt]

What maneuvers would you recommend if someone is 0.6km away chasing you and both you and him are at the same speed? Same plane (power-to-weight ratio) a) if you have altitude b) if you don't have altitude

[@mrcllean8239]

I need help, this video help me a lot on fighter tactics but I need some for bombers. I just recently got my b17 and was able able to get to the bomb target 3 times out of the 26 times I played it. I am not use to heavy bombers and need to know some tips and tricks if there is any.

[@julianmartinez3188]

Hey Longshot, what if you are in a zoom climb and you are stalling one out but a second one does a low yoyo and has greater energy than you (while you're climbing)? Would you rutter or elevator over faster? Thanks.

[@Johnnybroham]

This should be mandatory training for any War Thunder player

[@ericmatthews1422]

Hi... I saw your videos and all I learned comes from you, but still have problems to see arround me, some times I use rear view but loose control of my position or point of view, other times use the "C" key and the same, specially to keep track of other planes chasing me.... do you have email so I can ask you some questions...?

[@mmk749]

Thank you very much!

[@unphazed_]

11:33 is literally me when I play and longshot is the dude that I usually get pissed at for killing me

[@themyii]

Love your video, thx. What's the name of the movie at the end of your video please ?

[@long5hot]

+themyii Its from a short film called "The German", the link to which is in the description text above.

[@themyii]

+long5hot Thx, sorry i miss the description.

[@TKNikhilSeenivas]

novocas7rian from which film did you take those scenes? They are simply epic and ill watch that film at all costs!!!! Can you please say the name of the film?? Plz plz plz? ????

[@long5hot]

Its a short film called The German, the link is in the description text above.

[@StickyBomb0512]

Hey longshot, I don't know if you'll end up reading this as this video was uploaded a long time ago, but I wanted to thank you for this series. I've gone from a lousy arcade pilot who constantly lost turn and burns to an experienced player who consistently top 3's the leaderboards. I just wanted to ask you, do these tactics also apply to RB and SB?

[@long5hot]

+Walruseon In concept, yes they do, however flight models in RB/SB are nowhere near as forgiving as in AB. Low-tier planes, for the most part, simply lack the power to pull some of these maneuvers in RB, though they can do them in Arcade. Some planes will lose their wings if you push them too hard, or they'll radically drop speed and that'll do you more harm than good. Only higher tier planes can pull off maneuvers like the climbing spiral. I think RB/SB are more about the positioning of your plane approaching combat, the decision of whether to fight or flee, and maneuvering before someone gets a chance to open fire. Generally by the time someone has guns on target in RB, the situation is pretty much decided unless the attacker makes a bad mistake and allows a reversal by overshooting.

[@StickyBomb0512]

long5hot That makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to read through your comments. Keep making videos, you're good at what you do!

[@astafzciba]

+Walruseon me too i love this game because of his tutorials and i love to play german i don't care

[@Official.ORIENTCAVALIER]

I actually miss the old gunfire sounds, they just had something to them

[@dewiroberts1456]

They are sick manoeuvres, however PC players have a "rudder" key, how do you do these moves with a JOYPAD?

[@TheWindsTwelveQuarters]

Either pedals, or some joysticks have a rotatable stick to use instead.

[@p7outdoors297]

You good man? I haven't seen new content in a long while

[@long5hot]

Yep I'm good, just working hard at 2 jobs, no time or energy for gaming or making vids I'm afraid. How are you doing?

[@steelpanther88]

These tactics are working in war thunder of course, but they are not realistic manouvers for real flying. It only works in arcade where there is unrealistic physics, mouseaim and external views. Normal break turn is a hard turn into the enemy. Usually enemy cannot see under engine cover (because of internal cockpit view). Accurate deflection shooting is very hard when enemy is invisible to view. Normal break turn saves a lot more energy than your variation of the arcade rudder and elevator turn. Just saying that this advice works best for arcade and realistic battles with mouseaim and externals.

[@long5hot]

This is very true. All my videos are for Arcade, and in many ways its just "gaming the system" - using what Arcade provides and pushing it as far as you can, as you do with any computer game. It has little in common with real flying. If you tried to pull some 100% rudder turns at high speed in a real plane you'd probably lose your vertical stabilizer :)

[@Lemontech74]

For the climbing spiral, do I just jam on the "UP Elevator" key, or am I supposed to feather it/use a joystick?

[@long5hot]

+Lemontech74 Jam it, jam the rudder, feather the ailerons.

[@Lemontech74]

+long5hot Thanks!

[@long5hot]

+Lemontech74 And Jam WEP as well :)

[@Kai-jd4dx]

Thanks man

[@ReguluzAlfa]

I can´t really make a Flat spiral... its sooo hard to me.

[@rurushu8094]

I can't seem to find the button for the elevators on PS4, is it possible to perform the climbing spiral using mouse aim?

[@bilge677]

God damnit i said i was gonna stop watching war thunder videos and get hyped up to play it, as my pc has trouble running it at lowest graphics and settings.

[@aaroncheng3927]

I think your tutorial is great, easy to understand. But If it can have the "CC", the subtitle would be better. Because our man voice is low and deep, may not easy to hear.

[@reid1283]

Does this work against more agile aircraft like the Mc.202

[@0waffel0]

How do you keep the camera on him??? When u use shift you zoom in like crazy!??

[@antonjames6187]

Great now i will try these and use acrobatic smoke to practice these

[@jaykia]

Hopefully when or if you ever do come back, all these damn bugs will be fixed (but don't hold your breath!).

[@scheise4433]

I try the first maneuver in an American fighter, it doesn't work because the guy behind me has a a6m2. Some aircraft are op in turn radius

[@MrNonaste]

In the flat climbing spiral to the left it looks like he's moving his mouse horizontally to the left as well. Am I seeing that correctly. I'm trying this in a P-40 and it's is not working at all. I'm all over the place doing aileron roles. I don't have enough fingers and hands if he's also using the mouse

[@long5hot]

if you're holding the key for a tail control surface (rudder and/or elevator) then the plane ignores the mouse - I'm just using it like a free look camera without having to press C.

[@MrNonaste]

@@long5hot Thanks, for the clarification. I'm impressed with your skill at this. It's a damned sight tougher than it looks. What control mode are you using? Mouse Aim or Simplified Controls?

[@long5hot]

Mouse Aim, it's the best by far for both Arcade and RB.

[@adamlee6435]

Hi long5shot, I need some help. I've been flying at high altitudes but I just can't seem to bleed off my opponents speed before they break my wings. Been practising climbing spirals with p-400 and A-36, been really frustrating, could you give pointers?

[@long5hot]

+Adam Lee I'd suggest flying planes with better high altitude performance. Both the P-400 and A-36 are better lower down, and it could simply be that you're losing due to their lack of horsepower compared to your opponents. Perhaps try planes like the F6F, the P-47Ds or the F4Us instead?

[@adamlee6435]

thanks, I'll give them a shot.

[@albertjackinson]

How do you get those neat aircraft maneuver pics that show their flight path?

[@long5hot]

Photoshop ;)

[@albertjackinson]

@@long5hot Were those aircraft models that you showed made in photoshop as well? If not, where did you get them?

[@long5hot]

From memory, I cut & pasted them from graphics found on the internet. What I'd really have liked to do, but didn't have the ability, is 3D animated flight paths like this guy uses in this awesome vid ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3uliq2GgJ5nopI

[@gamerdad5363]

subscriber number 2K! Im special

[@long5hot]

There ought to be a prize!

[@r3ds0vy3t5]

Nice tutorial but can you make a tutorial based on hunting bombers.Tx's vids are just too long.BTW for RB, I also recommend to check Crouching walrus' channel.

[@MaximilianHartTV]

I've been practicing the spiral climb in test flights and I can't seem to get it right ... I always end up in a loop or having it be too flat ... how do you get the angle right?

[@long5hot]

Arathaert The key is keeping the cockpit facing the sky. As soon as you let it roll over too far you'll exit the climbing spiral and be into some other maneuver, so keep tapping the roll keys as needed to keep that cockpit facing up and you'll stay in the spiral.

[@MaximilianHartTV]

Thanks for the reply! It's not that it's rolling over... it's just pulling up too sharply and goes vertical. That or it never really goes up, even though I'm holding the elevator key, and just kinda turns gently and noses down (I expect that's a speed issue). I'm in an F2A-3 if that helps.

[@hvcbandit5583]

im trying to do these tactics on a ps4 but i cant bind my r1 tomy yaw axis,i did with my l1 and it makes the plane turn right but i need r1 to make it turn left

[@long5hot]

+Jay Berry I've heard there was a way to bind the various control surfaces on a PS4, but I don't know what it is. You always have the option of plugging in a mouse & keyboard...

[@hvcbandit5583]

long5hot dont I need a extra part to connect a mouse and keyboard or I can just plug them in to the ps4

[@long5hot]

+Jay Berry As far as I know you can just plug them in. I haven't got a PS4 so I'm just going on what I've heard.

[@gauravhotkar4847]

Hello this is my mom account thank u for helping me u r better than phly daily and baronvongames also I have question can I perform pugachev cobra if i m engaged in dogfight in close distance

[@Jetpusher]

Longshot, How does one perform these manuvers in RB since the rudder is only useful in small turns.

[@long5hot]

To be honest, most of these maneuvers are Arcade-centric and would not work as well in RB. You can pull a hard break in RB but generally only with elevator, using the roll key to change your angle as needed, but depending on the plane it could cost you a lot of speed and leave you vulnerable to a second attack. Clever use of the roll key while holding up elevator, could however force an overshoot, as demonstrated by Messer Smitt in his vids. Climbing Spirals with rudder are generally out of the question. Snap rolls depend heavily on the plane's flight model as to what the rudder does - on some planes it can be done, but on others it will throw you into a stall. Generally the oblique approach followed by a change of direction in & under the attacker is a better head-on avoidance method in RB.

[@Jetpusher]

Thank you. Ive been learning from your videos for a while now and i could even send you and Analyze this for you to take a look at. Only problem is i do not know how to.

[@long5hot]

You can send replays to [e-mail] - first though, watch your replay to make sure the camera's motion is replicated correctly. You can see your camera movements by pressing the semi-colon key. The recent updates to War Thunder seem to have semi-broken this feature which severely detracts from what I can do in an Analyze This vid.

[@Jetpusher]

ok thank you so much!

[@Jetpusher]

I shot you over the replay in the gmail.

[@txthtxth]

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[@long5hot]

Thanks Josef, I'll check it out :)

[@long5hot]

That book is brilliant! I encourage everyone to read it if you can.

[@tojiroh]

Josef Shalom Thanks for the heads-up, I've been enjoying the read! :-)

[@broken2352]

What is the Hollywood movie you clipped called?

[@twoodson3871]

Are you using a stick in this video? I tried it with my mouse and it doesn't work very well

[@long5hot]

T Woodson No stick, purely mouse and keyboard. I only use the mouse for more gentle maneuvers, when I need to turn sharply its always keys.

[@Bru946]

Very helpful now I can get my gunner to accurately hit something lol