Titan Lies

The Titans of World of Warcraft have a long history of deceiving and lying to the mortals of Azeroth but their greatest lies have yet to be revealed.
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[@selasiovec8581]

Two things i've been noticing recently: Mages can spec into Alter-time and Priests can spec into either Dominate Mind or Mind Control. both of which seem pretty highly sus.

[@inquisitortrevelyan2606]

"The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all". The Titans are the enemy of all, hence they have access to the light.

[@BritGirlJay]

Maybe 'Titans' isn't a race but a committee made by the other celestial powers to grab power over things. Perhaps a cabal more than a committee - heavy hitters who grouped together and made 'Titans' as their own faction to rule over all.

[@Nickywoowoo]

Which would mean there's a Void "Titan" somewhere?

[@helbalee1498]

The actual Surface of Azeroth is just a layer put there by the titans. We all know Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms were once Nyalotha. So why did the titans put a massive layer over it and like lock it away? Is it actually a mechanism put there to keep Azeroth asleep? What if we break that layer? Like it happened in Uldir and Ulduar? Where the old gods have been imprisoned. Like the big buldings are gates into the real world down below.

[@willythemailboy2]

Your last point mirrors something I've been saying for years, that the "other side of Azeroth" is far larger than the part of the planet we know about. When we finally break through the veil we'll find out we've spent the entire time fighting on the equivalent of Australia, with the rest of the world now visible for exploration.

[@MegaJugganot]

I'm only halfway through the vid as I write this...but what if titans aren't truly aligned with Order, but their nature is random, but can be altered by infusing them with energy as a world soul? And the it just so happens that Amanthul was a light soul but was "corrupted" by order, and being the first he propagated order to the rest. We already know of an unnamed shadow infused titan sargeras killed, and we also have argus infused with death...

[@hardwing]

Twist alla Shymalan: In the it is not a new continent that is hidden by Titan technology, but we and everything we know now of as Azeroth is just a small part of the real planet that has been isolated by them.

[@deckofcardboard]

"But Pyromancer," I hear you say, "the Titans don't use the holy light!" (Titanic Watchers like the Maiden of Virtue in Karazhan, and Maiden of Vigilance the ToS boss. One of the named tribunal heads in the Halls of Stone has an arcane ability, but it still looks like yellow holy light rather than the traditional cyan or magenta color associated with arcane magic.) And Golganeth and Khaz'goroth have very traditional elemental powers; skies AND oceans for Golganeth, and "Shaper and Forger of Worlds" for Khaz'goroth. Really, none of them are strictly, let alone mostly about arcane magic. other than maybe Norgannon, who's still very sussy, with all his dreamweaving.

[@damdamdamdumdidum]

0:26 - I'm so sad about that. I want more cosmology stuff.

[@sympathiea]

Eonar having command of life magic makes sense to me. They might be beings from the realm of Order, but mortals are either natives to the Material world or... Death beings that use the material realm as a spawning pool. Either way, being from one place doesn't prevent you from casting magic from different places. Nature spells do get cast in Ardenweald, as an example! Orrrr shadow spells by Denathrius. If you're going to sail around space looking for eggs that your people hatch from, and terraform planets you find into little pet projects, each Titan taking a specialised role, to me it seems obvious, a facet of being Order-oriented. You can't have planets made of one specific thing; you need each spoke of that cosmic wheel if anything is to survive. Why do they do it? I unno. They were looking for space eggs, but Draenor is proof they don't need a world soul to bother terraforming and panspermia-ing

[@NerdrageHockey]

I was hoping to find a video today in regards to this 'Panda'monium thing now that blizz has actually announced it with its seperate timeline and how it will converge with our timeline in time for the next expansion. I am guessing with all the xalatath references in SOD and now a completely different timeline coming out her influence will probably be felt in it some how as she gathers what she is gathering. If that is the case I think blizz putting this much work into setting up an entire backstory is amazing. You're up Accolonn, speculate :D.

[@mornhammer]

Yeah the Titans have always been a little weirdly resourceful. I mean even if we look at Sarg who took in the fel. It never stopped him from wanting to re ORDER things. Its almost like in a way they can use the other forces in some capacity, minus void, and still be themselves to an extent.

[@briancates3576]

I love your analysis and speculations…but you’ve CLEARLY giving this much more thought than wows writers

[@CDTC666]

We can just assume that they did something similar to Sargeras. They absorbed the power of a different force, but it didn't make them as strong as Sargeras. As for the Well, that was the plan, they created a wound that they could fill with arcane/order magic and through it convert Azeroth to their side. The linking to the timelines was done by either Amanthul or Murozond on purpose, or it is another lie and it is not in fact connected to all of them.

[@fazza84]

Order copied and ordered the power of the light, which naturally chaotic.

[@wperrottoiii]

The "First Ones" preceded everything in the realms of "Warcraft" then the Titans came along and saw. what they would call, Chaos and decided it needed order to survive and chose to enact what they "Perceive" as order and to force it unto all they come/came across. In the annals we know they were shocked that life already existed on Azeroth and their "Leader", you know the one in charge of order and time, thought to reorder said life but was met with resistance even among his fellow titans and they chose, instead, to corrupt said life, sorry, reorder said life.

[@trymeout1091]

there were no necrolords when the void attacked Bastion either....so Necrolords are pretty freakin useless...

[@ThinFady]

Hey Acco. I'm just wondering here, when are we gonna get the next episode of defending azeroth?

[@nemesradu5807]

how about each titan has his own realm but they are united in this circle. eonar life thul light etc......and exactly like u said they got a contract. half of map is united by order and other half is united by death. and old gods are the united circle of death so we can say its order vs death titans vs old gods

[@nickjordan8996]

Great video

[@justinb7494]

I've been questioning for a while why there seems to be a Life/Nature related entity planted in most of the cosmological forces for a while, it cant just be a coincidence of the First Ones. Eonar-Order, Elune-Life, WQ-Death, and (just pure speculation) An'she-Light. Void and Disorder seem to be the only ones lacking such an entity.

[@donshea7828]

That alls some good points, yeah. I do wonder if the Old Gods would count as Void Life? Arguably, the curse of flesh seems more life than void aligned. There just seems to be a really distinct difference between the Old Gods and other more nebulous void lord types.

[@Delfree77]

Aren’t the titans just giant robots? Like the bigger dudes from shadowlands were just robots, and that blue boring lady was eluns sister. N she was a robot. Sooooo everyone a robot but the first ones?

[@jessejames209]

That seems to be the case. It's like they were trying to sabotage their own IP, so bad that lore is

[@Elorius]

Yeah this seems to be the case, The First Ones created all the Pantheons so Titans, Eternal Ones and even Elune all have this robotic vessel like the Jailer had.

[@talisredstar1543]

"Everything wrong with the Titans in 17 minutes or less." lmao

[@deckofcardboard]

Source on Tyr being Aman'thul's son? I don't think any of the keepers are stated to be children of the Titans. Tyr was supposedly given powers by Aggramar, not even Aman'thul.

[@justinb7494]

I'm sure it wasn't meant literally more like how you described it but you are correct. It was Ra that was also empowered by Aman'thul not Tyr.

[@TheAccolonn]

Yeah, I misspoke sorry, had a whole section on Ra as well and kinda just skipped over it. The son part is meant to just be shorthand for empowered, cause well son not son, they were made and powered by Titans so I took some liberties cause it's quicker than qualifying.

[@urIncyte]

You know the whisper “The Light has made a bargain with the enemy of all” I have a theory that this is referring to Arcane and the Titans

[@jacoblionel4829]

I love hating on Titans. Down with the Titans!

[@jacoblionel4829]

Ragnaros uses surf.