@accolon question and your thoughts...you have mentioned how the light isnt what people think it is...what if the arathian empire is the one that we are going to end up fighting with in the end. Im using something i know as a spring board for this thought and i wont give spoilers in case people consider this one but im curious to your thoughts

maybe she loves almond crescent cookies

I still think shes Elunes first Avatar

At 13:00 you said all Titans go to the shadow lands and I don't think that is true. Argus went because he was infused with death magic. The normal titans are infused with order magic. So likely, there is a realm like the shadow lands that is like the 'order lands'

Xal'atath is the soul of the titan that Sargeras killed (by cutting it (the planet) in two). Do you remember the story of how Sargeras first met the void that settled on titan, and he killed the titan, cutting the planet. And after - hello Nerzul version 0.00 How about this theory. And now Xal'atath will try to “regain what should rightfully be hers” - life in the guise of a titan (somehow).

I may be mistaken, but doesn't Elune turn red or orange when she becomes angry. Could that be in essence the rage that Xal'atath is trying to make here own from the mortals of Azeroth?

hmmmmm elune might be dominating Xalatah hear me out: Zovaal had runes literally cared into his flesh by the primus. look at xals face in the closeup @09:02. thats not a tatoo. thats carved into her. Runes of? Elune..... (some other runes look like nialotha runes....) maybe Elune and oldgods are not so unsimilar?

Blade of the black empire looks like a Mourne Blade - LITERALLY for trapping/transfering souls. 100% Primus or his teacher made it.

He’s not a developer, he’s the project lead for Warcraft. He oversaw the direction of the Franchise and he came in around 2012 when a lot of people would Argue the direction took a turn for the worse. Holly and Ion are the faces that really make WoW tick. THIS will Impact Hearthstone and Rumble more than WoW by a large margin. Rumble was in large part his brain child. Hight helped save Hearthstone after Benjamin Brode left. Hights loss will be felt but not exactly how you think or where you think.

The blade kind of reminds me of the symbol of Lordaeron.

So if Titans go to oribos, what was the point of loading Argus with death magic?

Xalatath refers to elune as an upstart goddess.

This goes into stretch territory for me. Not because it's a bad theory, but because they literally just did the split soul thing with Sylv. I don't think they would want to do the same thing with Xal no matter who she is or is involved with.

I always thought xall is to elune what Shar is to Selune

Azeroth was cleansed of Elune/harbinger and the remaining sealed to protect it. Elune cheats to get rezzed, but dwells on the moon watching over her other side? So this is a fight to wee which Azeroth side gets to exist when she gets unsealed? Wouldn't Outlands world and soul be cleaved and killed too, like Argus?

Okay I'm totally confused now. I quit wow before the first patch in shadowlands. But came back in the last patch of DF. I thought the whole story of SL was that the Nathrezim were corrupting Argus with death magic so when he died he DID go to shadowlands and a titan spirit going there broke the arbiter or whatever it was called. But now blizzard confirms all dead titans go there? Then how tf did the sorter thing even break?

the titans like to erase memories and were quick to try destroying everything the minute their plans didnt go right, so I don't trust anything they say at all

Elune is there, behind the barrier in the Emerald Dream) And, I have a strong feeling, that she will come to ask Xal’atath some questions.

Too complicated. If Blizzard are going in this cosmic direction nobody will have a clue what's going on. My brother had never heard of Xal'atath and he plays wow. Elune could just be our real god. The Titans are demi gods who have overstepped.

Soo.. What you are saying because the night elves dont worship the sun, it means An'she is not relevant? Real, we might not see him ?

Gotta' stop touching so much grass, bro.

Josh and Anduin, one person with two hearts and brains. I've done a bit of voice acting for friend's animation, it's weird at times when you're in the room alone with your thoughts. I can see the angry part come out in the Battle for Azeroth cinematic. Anduin's a fresh, new king, still mourning his dad but with more to do. He sends troops in and sees them falling. Then Sylvanas does her banshee kill, leaving dead and dying soldiers. Saurfang knocks him off his feel and the "oof" sounds like you nit the ground hard. Greymane starts to help you up and is shot from behind by the troll who is going in for the kill. The "No! No! No! No!" as Anduin is trying to break through the shield of the troll is one heck of a voice piece. I could feel his panic and pain. then he pulls the bubble and raises everyone, then "For the Alliance!" Perfect scene and gets me right in the fieels. The other one is the "I have no light. Not after what I've seen. Not after what I've done." with the obvious pain of PTSD, was the saddest plea I've heard and the game has a lot. But it broke me the first few times I watched it. Completely prfectly done. Thanks Josh (and thanks Accolon for having him).

Maybe because he realizes that Blizzard is a sinking ship that already fired 99% of it's GM's just to outsource to Hindi Scammers like Microsoft.

When he pulled up the cinematic and showed Xala'tath...those markings looked like they were seared into her flesh and the placement reminds me of a face guard on a helm. Probably tricked into putting it on and getting this stuff burned into her flesh. the other runes also look like Black Empire too.

The xalatath dagger has to be a rune weapon... forged by the The Primus.... it collects souls... it has a powerful soul inside of it that talks... just like frostmourne... and it literally has runes engraved on it!!

And xalatath is literally an elf! Elune's people are the night elves!

@9:15 a good question for the artist: Why is 1/3 of Xal'atath's iris obstructed by her eyelid? I don't see the crescent moon. I see improper proportions. Her iris is literally larger than her eyes naturally open, which is really... weird, and not in a lore-related sort of way.

Xal'atath wants to *MAKE. AMERICA. GREAT. AGAIN!*

"Everyone wants to DPS" is such bullshit. More people want to play DPS but lots and lots of people prefer healing (myself included). If I couldn't heal, I would quit.

I predict Midnight will have a heavy Elune focus. The moon shines bright at Midnight...

I don't see it personally, I'm willing to be wrong but right now the connections are a little thin for my liking.

I wonder if Xala's plot was originally Silvanas's plot to go against the great cosmic design, but the devs felt like they had to get rid of her after so many people started crying about seeing her so much. We need more Sylvanas. Now that's a real conspiracy theory

Taking into consideration what happened to Sylvanas when stabbed by Arthus, the dark side of Elune could have been put into a morneblade. In this case, since it was a stronger being, it couldn't be kept completely contained.

The chatter convincing himself that this is all somehow sun imagery made me real activated lol

I like the ideas, but I keep thinking back to xal'atath's whispers. I really hope we eventually find out what Xal'atath is/was and how exactly she ended up in the knife. - She directly implies she is one of the beings we call the old golds. - She also implies that she is one of the "first" and that they have masters (whom reside in a different realm). First what? Dunno. First warriors from the void realm to be sent to Azeroth I presume. - Their masters are the void lords or whatever it is that we recently found out is likely coming to devour Azeroth. - She implies that the naaru are equals/brothers that took or chose a different path. - She considers Elune a great enemy - She mentions having an opinion on "this world's new owners". The Titan's own Azeroth? Or Who? Who owned it before? - She's made it clear that we haven't seen the true powers of the shadow and the light.

Every time I see her, all I can see is the crescent moon highlighted in her eyes. I very much get 'tied to elune' vibes from her. For every full moon, there's a dark one. Super fun to speculate about it all

I've had an assumption that Xal'atath may not be with them. There always seems to be a Judas somewhere and I can see her being that. Whether her goals are beneficial to us is questionable, but we'll have to see.

I actually commented this in a Pyro's video two weeks ago and his fanatic fanbase rampaged me 😂 The simple idea that she has SHINING CRESCENT MOON in her eyes is too strong not to consider she has a strong connection to Elune, as her half-soul, avatar, servant, whatever you choose. And when Tyrande summoned the Night Warrior's power in the cutscene she demands "to wear her darkest face", then she literally has void-like face and becomes an instrument of vengeance. And guess what?! She also has a HUGE SHINING CRESCENT MOON all over her forehead... C'mon!

As soon as I saw the title I thought pooh yes this will be so fcked up, I need to click it

The irony behind affirming a turnaround of what's good is bad (Titans) and uplifting what is seemingly obviously evil that constantly does evil acts is now the true Good...? Bleh. Xal's weapon form and its appearance is a helluva lot closer to Frostmourne and Primus/Jailer, specifically. We don't know if part of their deal were weapons for his brethren (perhaps to dominate), but I wouldn't swear its Titan construction at all if the above is taken into consideration. Sorry, I have to wholly disagree that Amunthul wouldn't know Elune if she were part of the SL - he obviously knew of the Shadowlands and interacted with its most powerful member(s). That aspect (no pun intended) just comes across as a wholly bad take on the surface. Finally, while a crescent moon COULD be a rune per se, it doesn't make it that way by default. Sometimes icon symbol choices are merely that of individuals without being part of some runemagic automatically. No, Titan souls do NOT natively go to the Shadowlands. Argus was filled intentionally with anchors TOWARDS that end and with his death, it is what happened as a result. Just from his appearance there (and he wasn't the FIRST or ONLY Titan to ever die supposedly) that it disabled the existing Arbiter, which further strengthens its uniqueness. It was artificial, direct manipulation. I mean, c'mon... Titans go to arcane/order seemingly unless 'fuckery' occurs, which only on record happened once and the evidence strengthens that with NOTHING hinting at any other occurrence of it.

It's like magic systems. Sending us to the realms of death means you have to explain how it works. Magic systems are often vague in how they work for the same reason. Who wants to get into all of that? Plus you start seeing inconsistencies and that leads to confusion, etc.

Elune the moon has 2 sides like the Naru light always chasing the dark (phases of the Moon) look into the legion encounter Sisters of the Moon text might have hints.

How dare you trigger my PTSD with the mention of Titanforging!! have a like for this atrocity!!

It will not be one person killing a boss. It will be one person and the rest in npcs killing a boss. Just like the follower dungeons except it’ll be in a raid form.

its only the Tauren, because they were one of the first races if not the firsts, on Azeroth.

I feel like they are going to do another Sylvanas redemption thing, but with Xalatath.

Maybe dude just wanted to chill and relax and semi retire. Maybe he got an offer to become an owner of a company. Who knows why is it always a conspiracy that we go to?

It could also be a lunar eclipse of the BLUE moon, which would still be blue.

I do think you are on to something here. I think you are like 60% there. Keep digging down this path.

Wouldn’t elune come from the life lands? Am i the only one who still thinks there is a “lands” for each of the 6 primary forces? So like an order-land, disorderlabds, void lands. Now they don’t all need land in the name of to just put the force in front of lands - like shadowlands was death land. I thought elune was life