Titanfall 2 | The Advocate Theory

[@bluecaptainIT]

I believe the Advocate organization has been created by Dr. Hammond himself. Who produces weapons, Titans and Ships? Hammond Robotics Who designed Spectres, Stalkers, Reapers and Simulacrons to fight in the battlefields? Hammond Robotics Who, in the first place, commands the IMC, funding the Armed Forces and the Exploration of the Frontier? Who has the power to give weapons and utilities without the bat of an eye? Hammond does. Connect the dots! Pilot rankings, Gifts, Coliseum... All for a simple purpose: if there's war, there's demand for weapons. Hammond knows it best War is business

[@christianmartinez5676]

What aboat the imc?

[@bluecaptainIT]

@@christianmartinez5676 Hammond still controls it, but supporting only one side makes a short war. Why would you destroy what you created?

[@vo3_bigpizza_yt921]

bluecaptainIT i dont believe that. The war (which Costs a shit ton) Will cost more than what they Will earn.

[@bluecaptainIT]

@@vo3_bigpizza_yt921 Oh boy, think of it as a job: more people are needed, more people work, more people spend money and pay taxes (ish). People die, less salaries to pay! Mercenaries are more expensive in the short term, but what if they die? *Poof* Spare money outta nowhere! Weapons and equipment get lost, it's cheaper to purchase new ones! Titans are expensive yet very expendable... Remember how many Titans drop in a match! Ammo, ships, suits, camouflages... Billions of credit moving every hour for pretty much everything, including toilet paper. That because people need them ASAP, there's a war out there. How's that not profitable, again?

[@vo3_bigpizza_yt921]

bluecaptainIT collateral damage, bases destroyed. Super carriers destroyed. War is not cheap my dude. The IMC Will not win anything by Selling stuff to The militia. The IMC is already beginning to lose. It just wouldnt make sense that The Advocate is Hammond. War always Costs more than what you Will earn by Selling weapons. Yes you Might earn a couple of billion credits but what When your bases are attacked and trillions of credits have to be paid for repairs? And not everyone in The IMC are mercenaries. In fact, its a very very small percentage that are mercenaries. It would make more sense if The Advocate was IMC, turned rogue and has formed a space mafia

[@aaboyz11]

I see that a lot of people believe the Advocate is Hammond. I would agree, but I think the idea of the advocate is a metaphor for Respawn Entertainment. They don’t necessarily take a side for any faction in the frontier, they are just making the lore rich for those who seek it. They reward the pilots (players), and need the war between the Militia and IMC because there would be no “Titanfall” for the pilots to experience. They also warn the pilots about regeneration, and how you can get a fresh start on the game (with the memories of playing it). There’s probably more evidence, but I don’t want to comb through the video again to get it all...

[@Omivon]

Sounds pretty believable

[@ratking1776]

I read hammond as hamood and was incredibly confused for 30 seconds

[@alexcawley2981]

"A rare chance of getting a rare one"

[@Demoman42]

Very rare extra rare rare pretty rare to get

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

Rare^2

[@blehh_mae]

hey wait is your pfp hentie

[@jamesf9096]

Please don't stop making these Titanfall 2 theory video's. The game has been dieing slowly but surely and most TF2 KZbinrs have stopped uploading. These videos are really fun to watch and I don't want them to stop

[@istopdabbingnowok1455]

No

[@ly_g1570]

Pony On Crack no yes

[@jamarkus5928]

@@ly_g1570 perhaps...

[@sebastianw.6637]

Hey look! Its a video about me

[@moon5996]

...

[@ultra_phantomaj8300]

...

[@Ivy64_]

..................

[@christianmartinez5676]

.....

[@kaimcconnell2137]

The Advocate oh Advoc aw te give your blessing on to... Cheeseday is everyday.

[@grimlers9408]

The longer the war goes on, the more power the advocate gets.

[@imperialplebian2547]

The longer the milk is in the bowl of cereal, the soggier the cereal will get.

[@ru_barefoot3417]

The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it will become.

[@reye5960]

What if its Marvin all along

[@Demoman42]

Beep boop Marvin don't tell them

[@goodbyejeffery]

I guessed it was Waluigi, but I guess that makes more sense.

[@daniellestetzinger2270]

It needs DRAMAIC music

[@jackdren9974]

Fuck I knew it!

[@ltwolf-mp5bt]

that depends on who "made" Marvin it probably wasn't mr. moonshine but, he's the one who "owns" him, marvin may be a part of it, maybe Hammond put something in marvin while he was being made. But other than that no, marvin might manage certain things for Mr.Hammond but no Marvin sadly isn't "the" Advocate. Would be hilarious though.

[@Skyler7667]

8:45 Re-read that until you see what's wrong

[@nathanjamison830]

UH OH

[@BT--oh1ih]

i noticed it right away while watching the vid

[@anomaly_echelon7994]

GITF

[@dacrazysoldier3473]

What's wrong?

[@trickzclipz5910]

@@dacrazysoldier3473 GITF

[@Arun_7]

What if the advocate is hammond robotics and they are observing the performance of their weaponry in battle to make improvements so they can put humanity in the next stage of evolution in the form of robotic bodies or exoskeletons

[@ltwolf-mp5bt]

that seems most accurate

[@ltwolf-mp5bt]

It also goes along with what BluecaptainIT is saying which i believe.

[@luckyluxgames7988]

I think the Advocate is a group of robots/spectres trying to take over the world so they need to hire Experienced Pilots to help them and won't stop the war until they have enough Experienced Pilots I believe the (Rank Chip/Advocate) is Spyglass because if you compare the voice of Spyglass and the Rank Chip it does sound similar in a way Spyglass was a mole in the IMC and convinced Kuben Blisk to save the spectres in the last mission in the Campaign in Titanfall It's possible that Spyglass was discovered since we don't see him in Titanfall 2 and we don't see the Rank Chip either

[@FS--ew3se]

Isn't spyglass in the facility where BTW gets captured or I'm mistaken?

[@drattdarkstar]

Great theory, I really never thought about the Advocate like that before. And yeah, I could see "double agents" hired from the companies, to help add equipment and technology to the Advocate. And these agents pretty much would be "asked favors", doing so at a minimal risk of exposing themselves.

[@doomdave475]

what if the Advocate needs enought money to conquer the whole frontier (the Imc and militia would feel pretty stupid for paying their own executioner) edit: It would be cool theme for tf3 you as one of the few remaining militia soldier againts the advocate dominion

[@jrsharker23]

*Aldmeri Dominion... wait a sec... that would mean every game is just a Skyrim mod... OH MY GOD EVERY GAME IS A SKYRIM MOD

[@trickzclipz5910]

Hmmmm... that's what I had in mind too... tf3 would probably be named "Titanfall - Fallen empires" anyone agrees?

[@doomdave475]

Awesome and the first level could be called “Primus Inter non Pares” (non means “not” in in latin)

[@trickzclipz5910]

@@doomdave475 yeah we are in for a surprise from respawn... I could smell it

[@marpas2290]

@@trickzclipz5910 I like tha idea :) and DOOM DAVE I think that is an amazing idea for respon :D (respon if you are reding this...)

[@MetalBenderGaming]

WAIT... how about when blisk says he has people with money to talk to at the end of the campain in titanfall 2? Was this the "Advocate?"

[@elda7153]

I got so excited seeing this on my KZbin, thanks for making an awesome video.

[@sablan7555]

I think the advocate is respawn and the developers way of putting them self into the Titanfall world the war needs to keep going for future content they get paid when you buy cosmetics and starter packs but the don't take any sides with the factions so I think that the advocates are then respawn entertainment team developers.

[@netsong2239]

The logo of Titanfall is A anyways.

[@echoweeibo]

Tf

[@cosmology124]

@@echoweeibo www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjQ-bu32MLeAhUUO8AKHaMCCNsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kisspng.com%2Fpng-titanfall-2-logo-decal-xbox-one-youtube-subscribe-3735727%2F&psig=AOvVaw2QdIuwpuv1dhxk6u2M6Ot4&ust=1541694157544692

[@auroralee]

I like how your mind's working here...

[@ThePridePilot]

I always thought that it stands for apex. Ya know because of apex predators

[@Chementani]

holy crap

[@semiblue7411]

A great video, as expected.

[@corbin4360]

So if the Advocate has so much money and power, and they are the ones supplying the war.. then imagine they suddenly cut supplies and then use all their power and take control of the entire frontier. The Militia would be crushed because they already have limited supplies, and the IMC would have a pretty rough time, probably falling apart in the end. Then the Advocate has full control and can use all the resources in the Frontier to make a profit. At the same time, it would most likely be better to just keep the war running. They would only do this if the war is about to end, and people will stop needing supplies. Y'know, an even better idea, wait until right after the war ends, and then create some new faction that swoops in taking control. This faction would be backed by the Advocate, however would only be a fraction of their power. This faction will purposely be abusive and get another war started. Keep doing this, perpetual war, perpetual money. The Militia might need some bigger organization to fill their wallets though, so they keep spending. But seriously, just keep making organizations to attack people and get a rebellion going to fight back. They buy supplies, the Advocate makes more money which they can use to fuel the war. Obviously they would want to keep each war running as long as possible to minimize the amount spent founding new organizations. Sorry for the long comment

[@fraggrenade7327]

I just realized I haven't subscribed yet I've been watching this channel for about 2 mounts but I'm subbed now, I've just been watching these through my recommended

[@renny9897]

On PlayStation at least there is an account. I believe it is called ‘the_advocate’ or something along the lines of that. It is the same account that created the advocate network on titanfall 2 and the only two games on the account are are the tech test of titanfall 2 and the full game of titanfall 2.

[@vo3_bigpizza_yt921]

ELIMINATE ALL SQUEAKERS there is something about that The_Advocate is not a Real account

[@trickzclipz5910]

@@vo3_bigpizza_yt921 how would ye know?

[@vo3_bigpizza_yt921]

Trickz Clipz some people have tried to search him up. My friends included

[@trickzclipz5910]

@@vo3_bigpizza_yt921 oh ok

[@user-lp7tx1fe6t]

Is this real?

[@brunomonteiro8528]

Maybe when u end titanfall 1 u end to be hired by the advocate and when u play titanfall2 u are a member of the advocate

[@Ivy64_]

Tea Cup, Did you get a new mic? It sounds a bit clearer than I remember. Also when you talk about the coliseum, you had a typo. You put Advocate gitf instead of advocate gift.

[@sh4rds0fgl4ss]

I think the advocate is all of the fractions together and the factions have different parts in the job like how Hammond dynamics creates the titans and both Hammond dynamics and Ares regenerate the pilots

[@harelmist1341]

Great vid as usual. One of my biggest questions is who is the advocate and I really wanted you to do a theory about it and now you did it and I have never clicked on a notification faster then now,unfortunately I couldn't watch it until now. One of my top ten favorite youtubers no doubt

[@blake5356]

He knows too much... take him out! -The Advocate

[@ZenPlaysVideoGames]

Seems like they were setting up an antagonist for TF3, I swear EA ruins everything I would’ve loved to see what would happen in the next installment.

[@PlayBoX-qq9kr]

The advocate logo shows a sword going through a piece of a planet, if you played and finished the campaign you will see the the planet typhoon explodes due to the explosion of the fold weapon after BT destroyed it, the planet separated in different parts that looked like the advocate’s logo.

[@blehh_mae]

1:46 maybe the advocate is just a mercenary type business, because; 1. pilots for hire 2. doesnt the daily message thing say something about how they work for pilots who have skills, that could mean they give jobs (the multiplayer modes maybe?) to skilled pilot mercenaries 3. meaning of advocate "publicly recommend or support.", reccomend or support the mercenaries maybe

[@blehh_mae]

6:14 or maybe an advocate just means 1 company doing it (but for the advocates purposes) instead of it being the seperate faction (or combined factions) of the advocate

[@awesome2beat815]

Thank you for sharing your theorys with us

[@AAA-p3i5v]

It’s me, just having a laugh.

[@APwhiskey]

The reason jack cooper was so adept at becoming a pilot/saving the militia! He was a memory wiped advocate agent!

[@Amira-rg3sk]

Thanks for making this video the advocate is something i've been wondering about.

[@loop2743]

Their a large scale private military group with the ability to mass produce, train, and fund mercanary pilot groups. This PMC funds and supports mercenary groups groups by supplying them with what they need and uses the Coliseum to advertise the mercenaries to the IMC and Militia.This is interesting and terrifying.

[@yeetusboiboi9678]

If it is the adovocate sorry for bad spelling then it is 1 person an adovacate is also singular so that means the adovacate is a single person and who is very unknown can be the adovacate small easy theory

[@YoRHaUnit2Babe]

the Advocates are such an interesting topic. mostly because similar corperation[s] exists IRL

[@asukalangley6422]

Oh wow i just got here and I love your vids

[@AGuyNamedRicky]

I think the advocate in the lore is a manufacturing firm. There is an unspoken relationship between brutal war and technological advancement. The standard of living is always improved by the technology developed in response to war. For in game reasons I believe Respawn developed the advocate as a way to deliver their credit system to the player and maybe even help players look forward to playing as the “bad guys” But what Respawn did without really intending was create a surprisingly deep mystery that now we want the answers to!

[@whimsicalrhino8926]

I heard the rank chip active and got drowned in nostalgia

[@SerhiiYastrebov]

Omg, third party - the real enemy - so much potential for tf3 campaign

[@neonhorizons5800]

I think the Advocate network is like the Bounty hunter's guild from star wars, the Advocate finds work for pilots and provides them with weapons, equipment, and titans, and in return, the pilots give them a chunk of their earnings.

[@samikaislasalo3947]

"rare chance of having rare" Hhmm yes the floor here is floor

[@EngorgedBanana]

I think The Advocate is the official school that trains all the pilots in the game and the organization that produces the research and tech around the titans. When I think about where pilots come from in the second game, I always had a feeling that none of the factions actually train their own pilots. A pilot's uniform used to be distinguishable by faction in the first game, but in the second, uniforms instead represent a pilot's kit and are not distinguishable between Militia, IMC, etc. This suggests that pilot teams representing any faction are composed of freelance mercenaries, capable of jumping between factions at the choice of the pilot. All players are pilots and all players can switch factions nearly at the start of the game. All players are pilots and all players are involved with The Advocate, as was established when a new player receives his/her 3 free titans from them. Therefore it's possible that all pilots in the war are involved with The Advocate and that it's canon that all pilots switch factions at any point in time. I think that their goals line up with Tea Cup's theory in the sense that they seek to thrive business through war. Factions will pay the Advocate, the Advocate sells them the weapons, then the Advocates pay you, with sweet shaders and titan chassis.

[@kylebeckk]

Thoughts on Titanfall 3 potentially dropping Q3/4 of 2019?

[@nine552]

I would love that

[@pisenbibovi4324]

2020 mb

[@jackdren9974]

Idk man Titanfall 2 was so good I doubt if they can top it, or if they can at least make it as good. Hopefully no microtransactions tho

[@kylebeckk]

@@jackdren9974 of they're are micro transactions hopefully they're cosmetic only

[@sabagamer3052]

@@kylebeckk respawn won't make same mistake I believe in them they listened to us and made Titanfall 2 great I have no doubt it will be great

[@witherwolf3316]

I have a theory about Titans and more specifically Titan Batteries. Titans use an onboard fabrication system that harnesses energy from the batteries to fabricate ammunition, ordinance, and traps, which is why these abilities have a cooldown, they need time and energy to fabricate them. This also explains why batteries repair Titan armor, it causes a greater influx of power, allowing for that power to be put into repair systems. This also explains the core meter, it takes time to build the reserve energy to use the core, which is also why batteries grant a 20% boost to the core meter.

[@witherwolf3316]

This also explains why you lose health when a battery is removed, the sudden loss of energy means that certain systems have to be compromised to fit the power consumption.

[@novamortis725]

I think the advocate network is a faction that plays both sides for some sport similar to apex legends the advocate feed info and give pilots to both sides for them to fight in a Location and get paid while they can watch which is why they offer pilots regeneration if they reach level 50 the people what them to stay so they can continue with the sport

[@dennissalaiz3670]

This would makes sense if you correlate it with revenants lore! Hammond's has a secret group of assassins which revenant came from as a brainwash simulacrum. Hammond created the simulacrum and gave it to possibly the advocates, thus instructing it to do their bidding as a killing machine, while hiding in the shadows as it represents another company to further their secrecy.

[@draknight5081]

So the advocate is basically the administrator from Team Fortress 2 they can stop the fighting but they dont want too.

[@Dwagon64]

The advocate is the faction in the shadows they fuel the war and make profit as the factions do get weakened as well so in the end the only powerful faction standing would be the advocate.

[@HausAbendrot]

I really hope Titanfall 3's story is about an Advocate-based Pilot! It could go in so many directions!

[@thedarkknight727]

I'll not be surprised if Advocate it's the next Villain for Titanfall 3, and the one behind it, it's a Senator Armstrong type Character, from MGR: Revengeance.

[@MrCat-fy7bz]

What if the reason the rank chip existed was to collect data on the fighting styles of pilots to create AI’s for the robot pilots in titanfall 2.

[@sjirko]

Now whatever you say Marvin is the robot from Titanfall one you occasionally see with the meme "Why isn't there an option to high five the robot?" from Titanfall 1 and now he has an option to high five but you don't. :(

[@megaree7209]

3:00 how did you get that monarch skin? I've been trying to find it for a while.

[@KoeSeer]

Respawn: *make an organization to make sense about players doing prestige rank and owning seemingly an expensive pieces of equipment like a titan or pilot battle suit* This guy: let's make a theory about it

[@potatochine-gun]

Finally a new video!!! Miseed you bro!

[@JadedMarigold]

Honestly this is a good theory, maybe we will learn more about the advocates in TF3

[@nightingale664]

Mini theory: you know how Jack was leading the militia to victory? If the advocate wanted the war to continue, they would have assassinated him right? What if Jack was the owner of Mrvn and that's why he went missing?

[@gilbertopara3844]

CLAN-DES-TINE

[@humogwai]

Can youdo a theory of how this entire battle started and how the concept of a titan came about (provided that there is enough info)

[@ZipZeroYT]

What if, since lifelines backstory (from apex legends) says that her parents are war profiteers for the frontier war, maybe they’re from the advocate network

[@polinttalu7102]

I'm pretty sure the Advocate is a group of mercenary higher ups who does things diplomatically Basically a Pilot Association who oversees Pilots

[@ericweiler2522]

Can you do another theory on the order in which the campaign and multiplayer take place? The thing that I'm skeptical about is the way we can pick up batteries without leaving BT. Would that be a Vanguard Titan thing, or is it technology developed after the multiplayer?

[@bluerdoll3460]

where the wallpaper for holo and pulse from? 7:40

[@DavidBarkland]

What if the Advocates aren't merely trying to keep the war going for profit, but act as a shadow council that are the de-facto rulers of the frontier? During the course of the war, they might have gradually subplanted the Militia and IMC leadership, assassinating people who could expose them. The war could very well be a cover for something more devious. alternate theory: humanity at large is a Kardashev 2 civilization; The Frontier is more or less a testing area. The IMC and the Militia is only the latest conflict: a deliberately contained war to pressure technological development, or simply as a giant test (like Aperture Science)

[@guy7912]

No wonder why. This makes so much sense!

[@zachnuerge]

Or they might be a weapons manufacturer coalition, which would benefit from the war.

[@teodorteisberg8344]

Fuck, I love the Titanfall universe so much. I cannot WAIT for Titanfall 3 campaign for more to the story

[@marpas2290]

I think that Jack Cooper is a part of the advocate cuze....he hase a smart pistol all along +the SERE kit

[@rimmertbekker9843]

Make a video about Viper and heb sad wans Viper 1 going down dos dis meen that there are more vipers?🤔🤔

[@justabriish3490]

Not the guy HİMSELF but there are probably multiple People using the code name "Viper"

[@xshullaw]

The Advocate is a collaboration between a cabal of Black Marketeers and Hammond Robotics. Hammond supplies weapons, Titans, vehicles, and mechanized infantry to the IMC, but also to the Black Market, who sells it to the Militia, who pays a large amount for these much-needed resources, and then an equal share of that payment goes back to Hammond. Pilot Regeneration was probably a collaboration between Hammond and ARES, and when ARES dumped the project, Hammond discretely sold it to the Black Market, who picked it back up and perfected it. The Black Market regenerates the most impressive Pilots, those Pilots go back into the fight and need weapons, Hammond sells those weapons, someone demands better weapons to kill that pilot, the Black Market sells those weapons, the Pilot either lives to Regenerate again, or dies and a new impressive Pilot Regenerates. The cycle keeps going. Hammond is a separate business from the IMC. They support the IMC openly, but war is damn good for business, so they work through the Black Market to support the Militia as well. They keep impressive and deadly mercenaries on the field so both sides keep hiring them. By hiring mercenaries, the two factions can go waste their resources somewhere else, probably where another legendary mercenary just blew their whole operation, so they need more resources.

[@Farfallingdeep]

8:52 “A Advocate Gitf” misspelt.

[@aggressivecarrot8355]

The advocate are the Hyperion cooperation and regeneration is just a respawn station

[@jmr8464]

What happens if the advocate has something to do with the syndicate in Apex Legends?

[@mohamednail1707]

I think the apex games is just a bigger version of the coliseum by the advocate to find good future soliders or even pilots

[@Lazet69]

the roll the dice card wasnt cut it was removed after a while i had earned it two days after release.

[@Liamrll]

They might be mercenary supliers and they want the war to continue to earn money, they can end the war if they stopped supplying

[@AkmBeats16]

I was in your 10 000 stream at TITAN BRAWL ArcadesCZ

[@Alstrix]

I think I’m Titan fall 3 the IMC and Militia will team up against the advocate after finding out they are the one(s) that wants the imc and militia to fight

[@acevixi]

my guy you have done a thingy and earned a sub

[@SrFlink]

The first time i see the word advocates i readed like avocados

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

Anyone else notice the name of the platinum trophy? “Mark of the Advocate”; earned all trophies. Maybe this factors in?

[@shadoweddragonfilms4424]

Going to be fully honest, after watching the TF1 gameplay, I really miss that game.... The TTK and such were perfect.

[@Xhawk777]

Finally, I’ve been wondering about these shady guys!

[@echoweeibo]

Maby the advocates is actually working with both sides but the connection is blurred like (advicate=a milita=b and imc=c) the connection between a&c is invisibal to b and the connection betwen a&b is invisibal to c but a&b and a&c still have connections symaltainusly. Or they own both sides of the war but neither side knows about the connection (bacicly the a,b,and c thing again) this is supported by the one quote stating that the advocates seem to be fueling the fire that is the frontier war. Pls let me know if you agree. Edit: this is allso supported by your theory of the advocates giving both sides mercenaries/gear 2nd edit: maby a possible story section of titanfall3 is the milita or imc find out about the connection.

[@dacrazysoldier3473]

For the res and Hammond logo it might be res or Hammond tech

[@Maskplayer-e8u]

Q&a on the game not multiplayer when someone says this one we build ourselves not the one we stole

[@Haarunen]

There’s one proplem. If the advocate is so powerful and want to keep the war going, why didn’t they stop IMC from using the ark?

[@ryngymir]

The Advocate is legit just the thalmor. It wants the war to continue so it can take Skyr- I mean, the Frontier for itself.

[@skytheannur6168]

2 years too late, but what of the Advocate(s) were that of the Syndicate that we hear of in Apex Legends?

[@net343]

So in a nutshell the advocate is the team fortress 2 administrator

[@WolfeSaber]

I think the avicate is a company split in two by the warring factions

[@marcosramirez2278]

HE IS ALIVE

[@water4204]

It could be the 6-4 and remaining Apex Predators working together so they can keep getting payed or keep fighting or maybe it's so they can do things without worrying about any of the different factions. I don't have any proof for this but the Apex Predators love money and how many times in games and movies do you hear about mercenaries that don't lie, only fight for what they think is right, and have a group. Think about it

[@CRAZYSHARK2013]

TItanfall 1 nostalgia brooo

[@Sergio-jk9fb]

Can someone tell me how do you get that Monarch skin at 3:00 plz will much appreciate it

[@gaso3035]

Earn 500 killing sprees or 300 something like that

[@debbiehf05]

Liking the Titanfall 1 gameplay

[@ZipZeroYT]

I think they maybe run a group of mercenary pilots and hire them out

[@xharx]

I love that hahahh "hello boys and girls!!" hahahahh XDDD

[@jupius8544]

What if they are like a Temp Agency.

[@DrunkenSpectre]

Most if not all wepons in titanfall have their manfacturer faction symbol on them, its not hard to find