Titanforge Podcast 197 - Multiclass Tanking & Murozund's Rise w/ Plkatv

This week we're joined by Plkatv to talk all about Multiclass Tanking (and Prot Warrior!) and Murozund's Rise!
0:00 Intro / Hero Talents / Roadmap
30:00 Multi-Class Tanking
46:00 Tip of the Week
52:00 Murozund's Rise
1:29:00 Patreon Thanks
1:32:00 Q&A
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Music: Take a Chance by Kevin MacLeod
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[@BeepBoop335]

Plka was a great addition to the podcast, I'd like to see him on more. His insights on M+ added a lot, and his take on adding more non-progression focused content was the cherry on top.

[@Shadowfolds]

I respect the hell out of someone who does high keys on their off meta spec. LOVED hearing how pika was trying to replicate other spec's utilities and talk about prot warrior, even though I don't play it.

[@ztormur6504]

my goodness, Plka had such a good take there at 1:35:47 . I'm sorry but it just HAD to be said by someone, and he sure did. Great episode guys, keep up the good work !

[@esjames458]

I'll never understand what player housing is for.

[@travislamar5986]

Get Quazii on this joint

[@yunadestined]

Yes please please please!!!

[@bricegardner7815]

Helllllllllllll yeah

[@bricegardner7815]

And that mf Kyrasis

[@VersusAllOdds]

Quazii is a goddamn giant... he helps the community so much, and always selflessly. And Kyrasis is awesome too, very nice and intelligent guy, would be awesome if he replaced Tettles forever.

[@---rm8do]

​@@VersusAllOddsthey already had Kyrasis on...

[@kamarii413]

Coffee and TF is a great way to start the morning!

[@CoreyDowning]

Builders doing more damage than spenders is part of the elemental shaman class fantasy at this point.

[@Girney]

Not sure if it works for other immunities, but Hunters, you can Turtle through the Gauntlet and nothing will hit you. So make it past the first large Drakonid in the doorway, pop Turt, and just head straight for the door at the end. You can literally just run right over the small casters while turt is up, nothing happens.

[@OosdwoO]

Surprised no one mentioned that if you do Rise its better to run only two range in this key for Deios encounter. It makes the fight so much easier when you know who is getting orbs above them so one of them always move and the other stay. A tip if you have 3+ range dps in this fight: Have one range alone and the other ones stack. one orb is gonna always choose the lone player.

[@Cr4cK41]

on the point of trading gear. You could tie it to veteran/hero/myth track instead of pure item level. So i you already have a hero item in taht slot you can trade eventho its 4/6 instead of your 1/6 hero item

[@thechartech]

I thibk what m+ dungeons need are more cosmetic incentives like the courser or score based ones outside KSM

[@Desmayy]

Exactly. M+ should have it’s own tier recolor at the very minimum. But I really think quality cosmetics like the MoP and WoD challenge dungeons should be a thing again, zero reason for it not to be.

[@kileNoe]

I know this is an old epiisode but the current state of SOD is : all the healers damage specs are insane so theyre all playing dmg haha. There is a healer shortage. Im raid logged on arcane mage healer in sunken temple. Just came bacn to dragonflight just in time for season 4!! Hype

[@treecat125]

Timers are so weird this season. I did a +17 with 3 full wipes on Manifested Timeways and still finished with 5 mimutes left. We weren't even doing a particularly large amount of damage.

[@emmakleis1364]

YES personal loot for pugging. It's so ass not winning set piece for the 6 or whatever week

[@baseboned]

personal/group loot has nothing to do with how often you win loot. It's the same rng either way

[@ReatuKrentor]

WRT Rezan in Atal, What causes Rezan to sometimes just nom you even though you are really far away? I was on disc priest far out of range and it just nommed me.

[@soulsharts]

I don't know what happened in an Atal'Dazar run I did while on Rezan. I was picked to be pursued, I'm a mage and so I Invised, dropped his pursuit and then he ran out of his pit and reset. Not sure if it was a result of my invis or if it was something else that caused him to reset. Has anything similar happened to anybody else?

[@MuuMiFin]

I need to get that mistweaver WA for my Arms Warrior

[@EpicgronTV-iv2sj]

Also have someone that plays Aug because they love the spec.

[@MacGregor3]

world quest titan forged gear was the woooorst. Having some dog trinket from a wq be your best in case it TF'd felt so derp

[@dommguard]

Titanforging would be TOTALLY FINE if they fuse it with the item upgrade system...

[@Dooferification]

As a healer i disagree with tettles on the defensive. The problem is there isnt enough rot and every mechanic is 1 shot. They need more mobs and bosses that have something like the second to last boss in Hoi where you need to be pumping heals consistently

[@NickAug47]

The problem is also that some classes have way to many defensives (mage)

[@Dooferification]

@NickAug47 those defensives matter less when the sources of damage are 100 every sec rather then 2000 every 20 secs. Its the same dps but your defensive nets more value from stopping 1 big hit rather then small chunks. Then you can make swirlys do less but still be just as punishing as it's hard to keep a group topped with small more frequent damage ticks

[@olafraflokfar5539]

The next big improvement for wow has to include new experience and the ability to chose to have previous expansions scale once you are max level so that doing old content is engaging. During preseason, I started doing legion to get artifact weapon appearances, but it just feels tedious and bad when your gameply isnt hitting things, but the game being a running sim to get between stuff. I think this is something that both casual and hardcote players can enjoy, many people like nice transmog.

[@DarkScreamGames]

pro tip- level alts in legion focusing on your class order hall campaign, genuinely enjoyable experience

[@themInterwebs]

Just as I’m learning to tank for the first time on BrM! Woohoo!

[@followmybel]

Can’t season 4 coming till march cos that’s when the mdi final is and can’t see the season 3 ending before that happens

[@ChronicHabit42]

fire mage is playing ignite again? I might have to log back on retail for a bit

[@ashwhisper]

Mage 100% needed to be tuned for raid... It was absurd to see a class with 3 dps specs all at the bottom. That said, I don't understand why they didn't focus strictly on single target since they were already fine in M+. Weird approach by blizz

[@Geo2470]

Tettles mic. Buzzing like crazy.

[@100timezcooler]

Fated Nighthold pls

[@mattstreet4104]

We need Quazzi

[@jameshall8711]

Let me do like a fated nyalotha the fights are already built and old enough

[@steelzeppelin]

Hi

[@Incantus]

actually quit a world 100 guild as a mage because mage is so bad in raid, purple parse in raid as mage = still bottom of the dps meters, not fun. not rewarding. although shout out nymue, letting me do insane things with my blink and alter time

[@DeputyDump]

The hero Talents so far seem like they just want to delete healers. Unless they make healers like mini augs.

[@Kmaitland89]

This is incredibly dramatic

[@DeputyDump]

Yes it is... But we've seen decently high keys timed without healers, DPS and Tanks will now be able to branch into tank or healing. Obviously it will never kill the holy Trinity. Healers get more damage or healing? I'd like for them to be mini augs. It's only a few trees we have seen and I'm clearly jumping the gun here.

[@baseboned]

you've seen exactly 1 healer related hero tree and it's the one shared with aug, and your conclusion is "all the healer trees are gonna be like aug".....

[@DeputyDump]

@@baseboned please reread what I have posted and tell me where it said all healers will be augs.

[@TheQwaser13]

Hover isnt on global

[@EpicgronTV-iv2sj]

Dratnos please tell me what “favoritore” is lol JK

[@WarMage]

the tuning was so raid-centric it was really frustrating to see... yes there should be some raid tuning, as an assassination main, i get the 3% nerf, they kinda needed it. but that fucked their already perilous aoe damage, then they buffed mage, but not just single target? when they were already doing the top keys? like, fuck... can we get someone who puts more effort in, like you can say it's difficult, but it feels like they put no effort in whatsoever.

[@Luxumbra69]

1 month later....that last trash pull of Rise is being lusted on fort. surprise surprise.

[@fitemilkhero]

Tettles must have never played a hunter becsuse i would love more defensives abilities! 😂

[@vaeell6532]

They didn't like that sin was the new fire mage, so they nuked it from orbit and buffed fire.

[@NickAug47]

In what world is Assa rogue nuked? It’s still really strong lol

[@vaeell6532]

@@NickAug47 10% damage nerf in 2 weeks is a pretty strong nuke. Most guilds have stopped PIing them in raid this reset because of it. Go look at the 1 day logs in WCL. They've fallen below WW lol.

[@carsonkitt7651]

yea its really frustrating. Playing keys with sin ever since I started playing this game and this is the only time its been viable (since ive started, heard it was viable in legion). I'm so tired of being nerfed in dungeons where we are mediocre because of raid performance. At 3200 atm but its so demotivating playing more when its so mediocre. The only good build for assa is the cleave/raid build for m+ and now its just 10% shittier which makes my aoe that much shittier because all of sins aoe is from sitting on a prio and caustic splatter.. Its sad that the "single target" spec is now the lowest single target of the 3. its niche is now just execute, just no point in bringing this spec. Anytime outlaw does more single target the balance is complete dog shit imo (subs ok since its always done st too..) Before anyone jumps down my throat just use your eyes and go look at logs for the last day/week

[@CrippsyS]

Tettles can't even give a proper reason for no defensives in Hero Talent tree. Then uses an example which reinforces the other point xD

[@bloodscar1]

Tettles big mad that his spec had such poor defensive that he lost his raid spots to feral for once in 30 tiers now gaslighting us into believing defensive in the hero trees is a bad thing. ridiculous.

[@CrippsyS]

Literally couldn't agree more. No idea why defensives in hero talents are a bad thing. Man just crazy as he has Barkskin and Bear form xD

[@MarshHare]

Holy shit weirdest take. “Stop giving players the ability to live”

[@Yes-wm7hv]

every time tettles talks i just want to skip it holy hell

[@hebziba8786atgmail]

Perfect timing!!! Work is so boring today!