Tito vs Stalin - COLD WAR DOCUMENTARY

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@TripleMMr
@TripleMMr 3 жыл бұрын
My parents, who were born in 1967 in Poland, would go to Yugoslavia for summer vacation. They described it as much nicer place than Poland, with western products they couldn’t get at home.
@fb.gg.ElDelincuente
@fb.gg.ElDelincuente Жыл бұрын
It was a much nicer place than anyplace in the world will ever be
@Ze_Hans
@Ze_Hans Жыл бұрын
Now Poland is years away from Croatia😥
@fb.gg.ElDelincuente
@fb.gg.ElDelincuente Жыл бұрын
@@Ze_Hans Croatia is just another corrupt country like the whole Eu and USA
@Ze_Hans
@Ze_Hans Жыл бұрын
@@fb.gg.ElDelincuente YES
@Garbeaux.
@Garbeaux. Жыл бұрын
@@fb.gg.ElDelincuentelol. Thanks for the laugh. I really needed it.
@LocalHeretic-ck1kd
@LocalHeretic-ck1kd 4 жыл бұрын
Tito: I don't want to listen to you anymore you big bully! Stalin: Over my dead body. Tito: Sweet. You've got yourself a deal comrade.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 жыл бұрын
*Broz Fist*
@Jungoguy
@Jungoguy 4 жыл бұрын
The pair on Tito.
@theamericanguy1969
@theamericanguy1969 4 жыл бұрын
Војвода Србља Вуковић Влатко What? Stalin killed 40 million of his own people even Hitler didn’t kill that many people
@vedran5582
@vedran5582 4 жыл бұрын
@@theamericanguy1969 Some people look here at Tito as if he was bad as Stalin. He had some crimes under his belt, but nowhere near what Stalin did in the USSR. Worst and only notable political camp, Goli Otok had 16000 prisoners and 413 dead. Most of them were stalinists that were imprisoned there from 1949. to 1956. The numbers are often inflated a lot, but 70-80k Ustasha/German soldiers/Slovene homeland forces killed at the end of the war (Bleiburg) and 10k Italians (Foibe massacres) There were some UDBA killings of Croatian emigrant nationalists and such later on in 70s.
@Wolverine-ky9gk
@Wolverine-ky9gk 4 жыл бұрын
@Војвода Србља Вуковић Влатко Tito might have not been fair towards Serbians, but he was way better than Stalin.
@michaelporzio7384
@michaelporzio7384 4 жыл бұрын
During WWII, Hitler's Field Marshalls ( in a conference) were mocking Tito for taking the title Marshall Tito. Hitler responded that Tito was more of a Marshall than any of them since they were given armies fully equipped to command while Tito created his armies out of nothing (paraphrasing). Tito survived both Hitler and Stalin's henchmen, pretty remarkable. Sad chapter in history that Yugoslavia descended into bloody chaos after he died.
@dang2320
@dang2320 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you thing that is? Was he the only man capable of keeping everything together?
@michaelporzio7384
@michaelporzio7384 4 жыл бұрын
@@dang2320 I wish I knew. Many different ethnic groups in the Balkans with grudges and mutual hate going back for centuries. Tito kept it suppressed (sometimes brutally) while masterfully playing the USSR and the USA against each other. After his death (though not immediately) the hate boiled over. The tragedy is that it was a beautiful nation populated with different peoples all with proud histories.
@ВукВуксановић
@ВукВуксановић 2 жыл бұрын
He should be mocked he proclaimed himself a Marshall, he was a corporal in AH army
@krejziks3398
@krejziks3398 2 жыл бұрын
@@ВукВуксановић He rightfully did so, lol, he was a leader of a country he created...
@ВукВуксановић
@ВукВуксановић 2 жыл бұрын
@@krejziks3398 he didn't create Yugoslavia and he proclaimed himself Marshall before becoming a leader of it
@wood3075
@wood3075 4 жыл бұрын
As Tito in Filipino means Uncle And Stalin is Uncle... Who do I support...? Who is Uncle?
@lukakovacevic4761
@lukakovacevic4761 4 жыл бұрын
Stalin is Papa.
@retrovirus_exe
@retrovirus_exe 4 жыл бұрын
The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 жыл бұрын
Settle it old fashioned way. The one who first cries uncle, isn´t.
@TheRealSpeedWolf
@TheRealSpeedWolf 4 жыл бұрын
Filipino transform the Spanish word from tío to tito. You created your own confusion in that. Now let me get some (hielo) for my drink or someone who don't know how to spell (yelo).
@canman5060
@canman5060 4 жыл бұрын
Transgender Tito becomes Tita !
@timtha2367
@timtha2367 3 жыл бұрын
Tito’s note to Stalin: Stalin. “Stop sending people to kill me. We’ve already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle. […] If you don’t stop sending killers, I’ll send one to Moscow, and I won’t have to send a second.”
@CptMoroni35
@CptMoroni35 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta give mad props to Tito, he’s the only Communist leader who had brass balls to defy Stalin…….. and live to talk about it. 😎
@mickeymaloney3729
@mickeymaloney3729 2 жыл бұрын
moments colder than ice
@Cihan9.
@Cihan9. 2 жыл бұрын
He was a real sigma even before sigma invented.
@matejherceg6139
@matejherceg6139 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cihan9. his birthday was celebrated like a national day why he was alive 😅😂
@TheOnlyOneStanding8079
@TheOnlyOneStanding8079 Жыл бұрын
Thats tough talk💪🙁
@ricolek4166
@ricolek4166 4 жыл бұрын
virgin stalin vs chad tito
@timax4114
@timax4114 4 жыл бұрын
Obojica su bili obične mlakonje, glas kao curice...zato su i činili onakve užasne stvari.
@timax4114
@timax4114 4 жыл бұрын
@Vid The Hunter od fašista, ova tvoja dva miljenika se uopšte ne razlikuju. Zbog takvih kompleksa u glavi, njih dvojica su bili u stanju počiniti takve zločine.
@timax4114
@timax4114 4 жыл бұрын
@Vid The Hunter pa pogledaj malo šta su partizani i komuninsti radili nad narodom, otimali imovinu, ubijali, uništavali istoriju naroda, vodili ljude na Goli Otok. Imaš i zločine tokom drugog svetskog rata od strane partizana.
@timax4114
@timax4114 4 жыл бұрын
@COTW Hunter tebi je sasvim normalno držati političke neprijatelje na Golom Otoku? Sve si time rekao, doviđenja.
@arcsoned1112
@arcsoned1112 3 жыл бұрын
Virgin KGB vs Chad Partisans
@mmdirtyworkz
@mmdirtyworkz 4 жыл бұрын
I remember having the best possible childhood while growing up in Yugoslavia, late 70's and 80's. What a great country it was. So great it had to be teared apart.
@TheWolvesCurse
@TheWolvesCurse 3 жыл бұрын
my mother says the same thing. she was born in 1966 in dalmatia.
@berrafatale25yearsago87
@berrafatale25yearsago87 3 жыл бұрын
My parents said the same thing. It was an utopia
@tuga_ace
@tuga_ace 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@teamspiral5672
@teamspiral5672 3 жыл бұрын
All good things come to end
@markberryhill2715
@markberryhill2715 3 жыл бұрын
The Sarajevo Olympics were one of my favorites. It and the James Bond movie always gave me an affinity for the place, along with Tito's defiance of Stalin.
@anfrankogezamartincic1161
@anfrankogezamartincic1161 4 жыл бұрын
I was 13 when Tito died, i have no bad memories from that period. After his death we quickly show our true faces, sectarian and tribal biggotry. We know how this ended
@yrkim3018
@yrkim3018 4 жыл бұрын
Tito was like a tiny but strong rubber band that holds several heavy machinery. as soon as the rubber band cut off... everything suddenly messed up.
@Tipko
@Tipko 3 жыл бұрын
@@yrkim3018 nice analogy
@silverchair5169
@silverchair5169 3 жыл бұрын
That is the issue. Authoritarianism never lasts. The pipe dream of bullshit communism is nice until the money runs out or the figure head fuck head dies off. It's days are always numbered.
@anfrankogezamartincic1161
@anfrankogezamartincic1161 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverchair5169 Castro lasted pretty long. Kim dynasty too. How it seems, Putin is on the long run too. There is no rule. It works or it don't works.
@silverchair5169
@silverchair5169 3 жыл бұрын
@@anfrankogezamartincic1161 you prove my fucking point. All men die n u just listen men lasting therefore their rule lasting. Their ideas are tied to them and when they die their rule dies with them.
@letecmig
@letecmig 3 жыл бұрын
As a Czech, I visited Yugoslavia as a 13 years old in mid-1980s.(beach holiday). Tito was already dead few years by then. Even at that age, what really surprised me was that it seemed Yugoslavians sort of voluntarily respected Tito and I saw red stars people voluntarily shown on many (privately owned) places. I found that really interesting. In Czechoslovakia, all the 'red symbolism' you would see would be state organized and on state property. And definitely nobody would talk privately about some commie leaders in a favorable manner. My Dad then explained me who Tito was and that he was different from 'our communists'. I found it fascinating. I also remember somebody saying in a conversation with my Dad that Yugoslavia without Tito is heading for chaos.
@nicholascortez728
@nicholascortez728 2 жыл бұрын
Tito was very interesting. While he was a dictator he allowed a surprising level of autonomy. Yugoslavia was definitely the strange outlier when compared to it's neighbors.
@yumallah6984
@yumallah6984 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholascortez728 He wasn't a dictator.
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 Жыл бұрын
@@yumallah6984 Totally wasn't! And Putin is only leading a special military operation in Ukraine.
@markolysynchuk5264
@markolysynchuk5264 Жыл бұрын
​@@account-369 the time doesn't determine anything
@mariaeterovic7501
@mariaeterovic7501 Жыл бұрын
I grew up under Tito, and yes, the people loved him. After his death he was demonized for his ideas about freedom from exploitation of people 's work.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Tito's final months, in the West we had daily updates as the doctors diced him up, desperately trying to keep him alive, probably all mindful that Communist Yugoslavia would not ultimately survive his death, although it took around a decade and other changes to spark the dissolution.
@vladob3
@vladob3 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is the truth! But! There were many interests to dissolve Yugoslavia before the acquisition of other East European countries. There are public documents about those plans from the mid-'70s and then under Reagan administration. And the strategy was to support nationalist and separatist movements in Yugoslavia, to bring some militant dissidents of whom many were in prisons for unrelated crimes in states and western Europe. The reason for that was important and big: almost all of the Eastern European countries were looking forward to being changed to something as Yugoslavia then was = sovereign, independent and influential state. And that process together with harsh measures from IMF and WTO took about a decade to crush down everything that was being built after WW II. And resulted in bloody and pointless wars on Yugoslav territories.
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 4 жыл бұрын
@@vladob3 The same criminal minds as was Churchill a generation before
@petobir
@petobir 4 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Jenkins Because its true
@transylvanianmapper8563
@transylvanianmapper8563 4 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Jenkins Well, after the breakup, Yugoslavia still existed as the union between Serbia and Montenegro, as it seems that serbs wanted to keep the unity of Yugoslavia. They werent the ones that sparked the breakup.
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn 4 жыл бұрын
I listened to the Austria news back then they were terrified they even start building anti tank concrete obstacles in the border it was quit wird when we drove past them when went to the austria in those time :) Yugoslavia survived his death just fine but didn't survive a few dudes who thought that they could become a new Tito.
@NeroPiroman
@NeroPiroman 4 жыл бұрын
As a native yugoslav this is prety well done, but the pronouncination of Kardelj was atrotious, and your information about yugoslavia-bulgaria merger is incortect, Both Tito and Dimitrov wanted it and even signed the Bled acord in 1947, but Stalin was the one who stoped it
@meganoobbg3387
@meganoobbg3387 4 жыл бұрын
Bulgaria was indeed in favor in joining Yugoslavia even before the war. But Yugoslavia kinda shot itself in the foot when they came and told a bunch of bulgarians "Hey, did you know you're macedonians?" The bulgarians in Blagoevgrad and Pirin laughed their ass off when they heard, but the bulgarians in Vardar Macedonia couldnt laugh... because they got genocided, and thats how dreams of serbo-bulgarian brotherhood were killed then.
@NeroPiroman
@NeroPiroman 4 жыл бұрын
@@meganoobbg3387 Dimitrov agreed in Bled that macedonia retains its status as a republic inside yugoslavia and even agreed to merge vardar with pirin macedonia, but he wanted for Bulgaria itself to have more autonomy than other republics inside Yugoslavia, but even with these diferences the talks continued until the 1948 tito stalin split
@meganoobbg3387
@meganoobbg3387 4 жыл бұрын
Bulgaria wanted to be on completely equall foot with Serbia in this alliance, not just autonomy. And ofcourse serbians didn agree to this, and thats why Bulgaria was afraid of joining under serbian supremacy. Dimitrov also forgot many bulgarian communists are from Macedonia, which led to disagreements between them. Bulgaria looked to move away abit from Stalin with this alliance too, but trading Pirin Macedonia for 2 cities felt like trading a horse for a chicken, thats why they didnt do it.
@NeroPiroman
@NeroPiroman 4 жыл бұрын
@@murderouskitten2577 he feared a united south slavic federation as a potential threat to his geopolitical plans in eastern europe
@meganoobbg3387
@meganoobbg3387 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, lets face it, even normal Yugoslavia was too much for the Great powers. A big and strong country or alliance on the Balkans has given all of Europe nightmares. Thats why they've always used "divide and conquer" on us. If we had decided to put aside our differences and actually make a Balkan federation, im 100% sure the US or Europe would have immediately persecuted us for "ruining balance" or some shit. And then theyd nuke us. Remember Belgrade 1999?
@wildyracing1
@wildyracing1 4 жыл бұрын
Tito once wrote to Stalin after an alleged failed attempt at his life: "Stop sending me assassins or I will send one to Moscow and I won't have to send another". This quote is like a myth, but is probably a fact. Tito was very, very respected and loved by the people of Yugoslavia and that gave him the balls to oppose Stalin and the USSR, who the whole world feared.
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 3 жыл бұрын
that's in the video, at the end. If Tito organised Stalin's death, that is just fantastic
@mrhaci7747
@mrhaci7747 3 жыл бұрын
That letter is real. They found it in stalin's office after his death
@lukav3509
@lukav3509 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrhaci7747 kinda funny that it was that letter since maybe tito did kill stalin but who knows we can only imagine
@Abominable_Intelligences
@Abominable_Intelligences 3 жыл бұрын
And yet the Assassin was a Yugoslav infiltrator and lived within the confines of Russia where he finally returned to his homeland
@etnalutt3492
@etnalutt3492 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Animated movies you watch? Tito was peaceful, loving person! Charismatic! Children loved him; I loved him! Tito directed Yugoslavia towards the West! Yugosllavia was never part of the Soviet Union, and geographically far from Russia! Stalin couldn't be involved!
@ksleep6088
@ksleep6088 4 жыл бұрын
Tito played Stalin like a piano
@matthewtuckman4447
@matthewtuckman4447 3 жыл бұрын
Its played like a puppet
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 4 жыл бұрын
There needs to be 2 episodes, one on the formation of the CIA and another on the formation of the KGB and how those two major players got their foundings.
@Schmidty1
@Schmidty1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes 100%
@shellshockedgerman3947
@shellshockedgerman3947 4 жыл бұрын
The CIA is the successor to the OSS. The KGB is the successor to the NKVD. Both are essentially disame, except that the NKVD/KGB is essentially the CIA on steroids, since they also deal with internal affairs and security and border control.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 4 жыл бұрын
@@shellshockedgerman3947 also the CIA was to focus on external affairs while anything within the US was the responsibility of the FBI. For the KGB I believe they handled both internal and external security.
@ruturajshiralkar5566
@ruturajshiralkar5566 3 жыл бұрын
@@shellshockedgerman3947 KGB has its origins in the Cheka founded by Drezhinsky.
@ruturajshiralkar5566
@ruturajshiralkar5566 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marinealver KGB had various branches that took care of various operations. But to sum it all, KGB was responsible for both Internal as well as External Intelligence.
@chickenlover657
@chickenlover657 3 жыл бұрын
Tito was a genius, Yugoslavia was a paradise. We lived like no other in the world while he was alive. When he died, an era died with him.
@mynick937
@mynick937 2 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia was no paradise. If you compare it to other communist countries,yes it was better but still a dictatorship. Say "Tito is an asshole" while he was alive and you wouldn't see home for many years or ever. Tito was Stalin "light" edition. He played West and SSSR in the same time to get what he wanted,one reason that we had it better than Hungary in example.We had more freedom but it was still heavily controlled by the state.
@chickenlover657
@chickenlover657 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynick937 LOL, no one was gonna say Tito is an asshole because he wasn't an asshole. And we had it far better than today.
@mynick937
@mynick937 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickenlover657 I can't agree with that.
@chickenlover657
@chickenlover657 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynick937 Of course you can't, you were probably still peeing in diapers when Tito died.
@mynick937
@mynick937 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickenlover657 Where were you?
@n.d.5452
@n.d.5452 4 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to spend the best time of my life (first 22 years) living country led by Josip Broz Tito. He built a country with free education and healthcare system for everyone. We didn’t have swimming pools in our backyards but we had meaningful life. Now I have a swimming pool and two cars but tomorrow if I get corona I am not going to get proper care since the idiots that came on the power in Yugoslavian republics have destroyed everything he made.
@intel386DX
@intel386DX 4 жыл бұрын
Bas tako
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
@@intel386DX e nisam vidio komentar.. i ja nesto slicno komentirao.. neka :)
@ezrathegreatconqueror
@ezrathegreatconqueror 4 жыл бұрын
But there surely were public swimming pools which were quite decent too!
@n.d.5452
@n.d.5452 4 жыл бұрын
@@ezrathegreatconqueror in my home town we had swimming pool complex and US Olympic Swimming Team trained there before 1972 Olympic Games in Germany. It would be wrong if I said that everything was nice and fine. Yes we had shortage of some common commodities from time to time. During oil crisis we had system of pair and odd days license plates. It means that if last number on your license plate is pair you could drive on those that’s that had pair number in date like on 22nd. But we were trained and prepared for such situation. But those basic and the most important things were generally available and we used to take them for granted. At the end it was not typical communist regime like it was elsewhere it was a mixture or socialism and capitalism. We could have own companies but major companies were owned formally by employees and run by them. It was society that was too modern for that time. I believe that in next 50 years we are gonna be forced by nature to build similar society due to the lack of nature resources.
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn 3 жыл бұрын
@@n.d.5452 You are correct we had par-nepar thing when to drive a car because of officially shortage oil in reality it was fight between 2 different oil importers in yugoslavia Croatian Ina and Serbian Beopetrol, this was after Tito died and was a first crack in Yugo unity. Not to forgot Greece and Italy had similar system, which is largely unknown.
@alm5992
@alm5992 4 жыл бұрын
9:28 every teen smoking for the first time and trying to act cool, followed by hacking their lungs out lol
@anemicsilence
@anemicsilence 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@joehill4094
@joehill4094 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he looks around too to see if anyone saw him lol
@laki5380
@laki5380 3 жыл бұрын
@@joehill4094 who is Jour Presedent at time fule ?
@Mirda1983
@Mirda1983 2 жыл бұрын
Juga was an example of what cooperation between workers can create if we put aside our petty differences. I'm from Banja Luka, Bosnia, Jugoslavia, and I have nothing but good memories of my childhood, being happy, and enjoying the simple things in life...
@thewestisthebest6608
@thewestisthebest6608 4 жыл бұрын
Stalin: Can we still be friends? Tito: Well yes, but actually no
@yugoslaviaist
@yugoslaviaist 4 жыл бұрын
Most of us here in former Yugoslavia still love you Tito with all our hearts and a lot of our cities still have streets with your name,as do many other cities all around the world.We will never forget you and thank you for all you did for your people unlike today’s corrupt politicians that put their own interests ahead of those of their own people who elected them.
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
one of few reasons i am actually sad i dont have children..so i cant pass that knowledge :/ these new manipulators are constantly trying to make him look like a dictator..if that was a dictator than..dictatorship is actually a great thing..i want more of it.. please... again..
@MooncricketsInc
@MooncricketsInc Жыл бұрын
They got a bronze statue of him in the town I'm currently in. I think every country in the balkans has a street named after him? RIP Legend
@yugoslaviaist
@yugoslaviaist Жыл бұрын
@@MooncricketsInc I have a bronze bust of him in my room and I’m 26 lol. Also not just streets in the Balkans, there are streents and squares named after him in many countries arround the world, some African country (I can’t remember the name exactly) even had his portrait on one of their banknotes as well.
@محمدالامريكي-ج9م
@محمدالامريكي-ج9م 4 жыл бұрын
You know he's chad when his name is literally Broz.
@Pokephosgene
@Pokephosgene 4 жыл бұрын
Possible roots of the schism between Tito and Stalin were in the purges of the 30-s, where Tito might have simply grown to not trust Stalin on anything. Ultimately, Tito had Yugoslav Stalinists purged, like Stalin purged Trotskyists.
@vladob3
@vladob3 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but one should understand that Stalin at his time was as strong and important on "his" zone of influence same as Hitler was. And nobody dared to contradict Hitler. Can you imagine that Mussolini, Franco or any puppet state leader would stand against Hitler? That big gamble was legendary Tito's NO! to Stalin
@domo3699
@domo3699 4 жыл бұрын
@@vladob3 Franco was not Hitler's puppet. He proclaimed neutrality in WWII and resisted Hitler's demands on entering war. Much like Tito didn't want Stalin to Command him.
@armija
@armija 4 жыл бұрын
@@vladob3 Neither Franco nor Musolini were Hotlers puppets. Check your facts, they both were defying Hitler all the time.
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn 4 жыл бұрын
Tito's mentality was different he grew up in austrohungary his mother was not really poor Slovenian his grandfather was a major from the village in Slovenia near Croatian border it was obvious that rough Stalin philosophy aint fit into the Tito philosophie and not to forget his right hand was Slovenian Kardelj the real father of yugoslav way of socialism which was much more softer and more pro human than Stalin version. It was natural that Tito send Stalinist in to the isolated island and insure that they cant act as enemy in the real possibility of soviet invasion in those times. But he didnt kiled them if he did then they couldnt talk about later or even today.
@dabome4001
@dabome4001 4 жыл бұрын
actualy,Tito purged comrades for Stalin in Spain
@saellenx3528
@saellenx3528 4 жыл бұрын
Tito was never Stalins BFF. The guy was ultimate manipulator and player. He used both West and East for his own goals and in the end he showed middle finger to both sides and formed non aligned movement.
@thegorb2653
@thegorb2653 4 жыл бұрын
The difference between communist Yugoslavia and soviet union are very interesting, I especially looked into the economic management of both countries. Yugoslavia never seems to be looked into enough in the cold war era and people assume is just like Stalins Russia so you have done well with this video. :)
@rodolfo5022
@rodolfo5022 4 жыл бұрын
@Boris Posavec hahahahahahaa... My man, I couldn't have said it better ! That Tito was a fucking good player !
@rodolfo5022
@rodolfo5022 4 жыл бұрын
@The Gorb seeing how Yugolsavia's sellf-management socialism worked so much better that the centralized socialism of the Soviet Union, I've always asked myself why no other socialist country around the worled followed the model?
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Tito thought as he watched (from a distance) Mao completely destroy China with the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution. He must have thought (like so many of us other folks around the world), "What the h*ll is he doing?". The difference between having a totalitarian leader who at least has some sanity and one who is an utter bloodthirsty maniac.
@deznuces9342
@deznuces9342 4 жыл бұрын
Our Tito, was a demigod of the south slavs! Alpha and Omega of the Balkans!! Slava mu!
@randallrona9618
@randallrona9618 2 жыл бұрын
Of all of the dictators in history, Tito was one of the few to be called as "benevolent dictator". Yugoslavia despite under Communism, remained non-aligned during Cold War and had more freedom than any Communist states. One of few Communist persons that had BALLS to stand against a brutal dictator Josef Stalin. And his note against Stalin was a FREAKING BADASS!
@TF2Scout..
@TF2Scout.. 10 ай бұрын
And he managed to escape Otto
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
yes Tito was a dictator..poor us :( we all got free house, education and health...everyone had a car..a cheap car but still a car...every summer u can go to different country for vacation...everyone had a job..only thing you couldnt do is get rich if you are not in his party...what that brought is.. almost no one was rich..so marriages were purely out of love, friends were made only because you like someone..there was no hidden agenda in ordinary life.. and that was the problem..ex millioners wanted to be it again.. power hungry garbage wanted to be able to manipulate..and bigger powers of east and west knew that with promises of power to such people they can have them as puppets forever.. so yeah.. Tito was a dictator..it was horrible.. and now its great :)) greed rules now..nothing else..so yeah this is good we are saved :)
@pagodebregaeforro2803
@pagodebregaeforro2803 2 жыл бұрын
Well done mate. I agree with you. Thats right, the system HAD to be a dictatorship, otherwise it wouldn't even exist nor last, other powers would infiltrate the country and gain the country from inside out, buying and financing puppets, separatists and parties. I dont like autocrat regimes, but in some situations, depending on the country and what the country want be, its the only way.
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 2 жыл бұрын
@@pagodebregaeforro2803 in other wards what happened to the country since he died :) look i disslike dictatorship as much as any other guy but some parts of the world are made for it.. some parts are made for democracy some for communism some for capitalism some for monarchy some for order anarchy ets. ... depends on everything.. culture, relligion, tradition and overal nature of the people
@MooncricketsInc
@MooncricketsInc Жыл бұрын
​@@darkodarko9 I'll take living in yugoslavia under the rule of Tito over the crazy and shite current day balkans any time.
@tarcioleoterio8795
@tarcioleoterio8795 4 жыл бұрын
Stalin: Nobody is able to be more communist than I Tito: Hold my Rakija
@machinegun3133
@machinegun3133 3 жыл бұрын
I pissed myself laughing at this!
@matthewwhitton5720
@matthewwhitton5720 Жыл бұрын
It’s well worth looking at his biography as detailed on Wikipedia. Goodness me, he certainly had impeccable industrial, proletarian credentials. An immense amount of work done in a wide variety of industries, in particular with anything to do with metallurgy. Completely and utterly eclipsing Stalins own total and utter unfamiliarity with ‘ work ‘ of any sort whatsoever.
@kentchamberlain5720
@kentchamberlain5720 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm pretty sure some of you can rap about Stalin's early life. In Georgian. Backwards." I feel personally attacked by this relatable content.
@ilikedota5
@ilikedota5 4 жыл бұрын
is this a reference I'm not getting?
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 4 жыл бұрын
I didnt get the reference either
@panagiotisxaralampidis2368
@panagiotisxaralampidis2368 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, another edgy millennial who worships Stalin. Even worse, you know history.
@arifahmedkhan9999
@arifahmedkhan9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@panagiotisxaralampidis2368 No its about a Rap song from EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY.
@arifahmedkhan9999
@arifahmedkhan9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilikedota5 I believe he was referring to the ERB but they at ERB didn't call it backwards, It went like "Georgia sweet Georgia, how history books unfold ya, like a messed up mutherfuker bent in mind...."
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 4 жыл бұрын
Proud to see the only legitimate leader of Yugoslavia get his own documentary ❤
@Wustenfuchs109
@Wustenfuchs109 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragosstanciu9866 Yup. Because that people just came out of a piss poor royalist dictatorship, turned into a fascist puppet through the rule of JRZ in the years before the war with king feeling the country for the duration of the war. On the other hand, they had a strong "monarch" who distributed the land, commanded a strong army and launched a grand campaign to modernize the nation. Schooling became mandatory, medical care became universal, factories, railways and roads were growing left and right. So people didn't really give a damn who is sitting at the top or how the ruling party is called. They had a better life than ever before - they did not give a flying fuck who's in charge and how he got there. But he did get there by fighting Germans and Italians throughout the war, unlike the "legitimate" parties so... people tend to rally around those sort of people. So yeah, he was legitimate as one could be.
@Thechezbailey
@Thechezbailey 4 жыл бұрын
When you're used to shit, you'd take piss any day.
@panzerbanz7296
@panzerbanz7296 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wustenfuchs109 No they did not want to live under it, the proof for that are all the enemies of Tito during ww2 and all the people thr communist regime killed, the Monarch had more legitimacy then a dictator.
@berrafatale25yearsago87
@berrafatale25yearsago87 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragosstanciu9866 yes. 95% wanted that, others were just traitors
@berrafatale25yearsago87
@berrafatale25yearsago87 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thechezbailey you sir have very unusual sexual preferences
@zulthyr1852
@zulthyr1852 4 жыл бұрын
It's like the quiet kid standing up against the bully... but on a larger scale.
@stza16
@stza16 4 жыл бұрын
It’s like the schoolyard bully standing up to the mafia don.
@zulthyr1852
@zulthyr1852 4 жыл бұрын
@Metal 1974 woosh
@vladob3
@vladob3 4 жыл бұрын
Well yes, kind of. But Tito's biggest strength was his exceptional understanding of time and power balance. He pretty well knows about plans of both big players = US & USSR. Actually, there was so much going at that time, that it is spectacular how he handled it all at the same time. A slightly different view of federation formation from different nationalities in Yugoslavia, Greece, Trieste, and dispute with Italy, plans of union with Bulgaria, influence in Albania... Tito's big strength was in surrounding himself with first-class strategists and diplomats. Kardelj was mentioned here, but an even better one was Koča Popović. Tito's biggest gamble of all time was exactly this = split with Stalin. Because there were many orthodox followers of Stalin and his way of ruling and forming state. Many of them were on hight political and military positions in Yugoslavia. Famous events from that period are around the forming of kind of gulag on an island named Goli otok (literally: bare island). It is praised as strong and brutal repression. Well, it was a bit of strong and brutal, but more like some Guantanamo bay and way milder than Russian gulags. Luckily, this gamble played out favorable for Tito.
@temistogen
@temistogen 4 жыл бұрын
@Metal 1974 he was a village simpleton.Not a true leader.Tito did not have a primary education,and he talked like an idiot.
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 4 жыл бұрын
The *Camel Man of Steel* vs _2 BIG Spheres of Influence_ Awesome! Definitely a swipe left kinda upload Thanks
@g00dbyemisterA
@g00dbyemisterA 4 жыл бұрын
2:40 I genuinely thought we were about to get a Fresh Prince of Bel Air parody for Stalin
@zeljosarajevic
@zeljosarajevic 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! And here is the extended timeline - WWII ends - Tito declines Jalta and partition of Yugoslavia - Ivan ribar becomes the head of the state as a soviet puppet to ease the tentions - informbiro is founded as a succeeder of komiterna - you are dead if you say you like Americans - great famine - Tito started seeking humanitary and weapons aid from westerners - 1948, the year when soviets and other members of informbiro condemned Yugoslavias move towards west - Tito started prosecution of informbiro supporters - you are dead if you say you like soviets - no more pictures of Stalin and Lenin in Yugoslavia - famine is over after soviet collectable farming is abolished - soviets are ready to invade Yugoslavia - Yugoslavia got tanks and jet fighters from USA - Yugoslavia closes border tentions with Greece and Italy in favour of US support in case of soviet invasion - Yugoslavia became member of UN - Korea happened and Stalin withdrew troops to avoid two fronts - Ivan Ribar can finally be put aside - most of the soviet supporters are smashing rocks on goli otok - Tito is proclaimed as president for life - complete overhaul of country - Stalin is kaput - prosperity - 1992 - bye
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
svaka ti dala :)
@zeljosarajevic
@zeljosarajevic 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkodarko9 živio govornik :D
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
I can't help but admire Marshal Tito and how unique he was in the communist world at the time. Granted some of his methods I don't approve of. But I can't help but admire the unique path he wanted to chart for himself and the country he ruled. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
@Kintabl
@Kintabl 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That Kardelj pronunciation. Slavic J is like Y in word yes.
@mitchceiling1506
@mitchceiling1506 Жыл бұрын
I like the background music at the beginning and end
@s.majstorovic5598
@s.majstorovic5598 4 жыл бұрын
3:02 That's a picture of Tito during WW2, it was taken in 1943. Beside him is Koča Popović.
@MPresheva
@MPresheva 4 жыл бұрын
8:36 It is not Enver Hoxha with Tito in the picture. The man in the hat is Dragoslav Rankovich, at the time Tito's right-hand executive.
@nicholasj.deorio9765
@nicholasj.deorio9765 3 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing
@mario1997281
@mario1997281 3 жыл бұрын
Aleksandar Ranković, not Dragoslav.
@carlosramos-yf8ns
@carlosramos-yf8ns 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you will follow up with Goli Otok and Tito's purges of Yugoslav Stalinists
@vojislavl6665
@vojislavl6665 4 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting!
@rikidiki8940
@rikidiki8940 4 жыл бұрын
Reeee yugoslavia bad. All stalinists should have been sent to goli otok i dont see the issue there tbh..
@koro741
@koro741 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was in goli otok
@D.A.EpicMusic
@D.A.EpicMusic 4 жыл бұрын
My friends grandfather was sent to Goli Otok because he supported Stalin. There, they said to him: "We will give you anything you want, a house, a respectable position in the Party, whatever you want, just say you support Tito". He replied:"Fuck Tito, long live comrade Stalin". And of course, he spent years on Goli Otok.
@s.majstorovic5598
@s.majstorovic5598 4 жыл бұрын
@@D.A.EpicMusic, Good
@yetigriff
@yetigriff 4 жыл бұрын
Tito didn't do much after the Africa song though
@joluoto
@joluoto 4 жыл бұрын
That's Toto, but they're the same.
@david___7039
@david___7039 4 жыл бұрын
🎶I bless the rains down in Serbia Gonna take some time to do the things we never had (ooh, ooh)🎶
@markwilliams2620
@markwilliams2620 4 жыл бұрын
MTV killed them off. They sounded great but were nothing to look at.
@vikipedia5966
@vikipedia5966 4 жыл бұрын
Here's an interesting story my friend told me about his grandma. She was a little kid in Yugoslavia who sometimes sang at weddings and parties various communist songs including a song about Tito and Stalin and how they were best friends and were going to change the world together. After the Tito-Stalin split, her parents would hold her mouth shut with their hands while in public and would beat her every day to scare her into never singing that song about Tito and Stalin.
@Corsa15DT
@Corsa15DT 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia may have been dictatorial in the early years, 1945-1955, but then (1955-1990) it continued to live as one of the most democratic and peaceful regimes in the world. All the ex Yugoslav republics can confirm the same thing. Democracy has nothing on Yugoslavia.
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
its much better now.. buahaha..please someone kill me :( please someone kill us all :S
@catmate8358
@catmate8358 3 жыл бұрын
At the time of Yugoslavia, Spain, Portugal and Greece were actually fascist, UK was oppressing Ireland, France brutalizing Algerians, US doing genocide in Vietnam... So democracy, yeah lol :D
@frejafan
@frejafan 3 жыл бұрын
@@catmate8358 that's bullshit about Greece
@mrmacedon
@mrmacedon 4 жыл бұрын
Stalin was powerless against our glorious leader TITO
@zoranpavlovski1352
@zoranpavlovski1352 2 жыл бұрын
You miss pronounced many names, but I much appreciate the work you made about creating this video!
@DarkFilmDirector
@DarkFilmDirector 4 жыл бұрын
History has been much kinder to Tito than Stalin. I mean let's face it, everyone kind of admires the antihero. Flawed, ambitious, brutal, yet also a talented military leader (unlike Stalin or Hitler), a Spartan sense of austerity, and seemed to have a sense of logic and reason in his policies rather just blind adherence to party dogma. This pragmatism and willingness to move back and forth between dialogue with the west and the east showed both an opportunism in him as well as some glimmer of humanity in his rule. The early part of his rule was pretty typical Stalinesque crap but the second half of his rule was remarkably mild. Plus, who else can say they faced down the wrath of both Hitler and Stalin and outlived them both getting the last laugh?
@NoelDujso
@NoelDujso 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video!
@deznuces9342
@deznuces9342 4 жыл бұрын
Tito truly believed in the soviet idea of global communism. Just at the end of war he saw that Stalin more or less wanted a Russian kingdom. Tito was and will forever be a hero. Alpha and Omega!!!
@TRUECRISTIANJESUS
@TRUECRISTIANJESUS 4 жыл бұрын
sir. While my channel is dedicated to Free Speech, I do not tolerate Hate or Derogatory remarks of ANY kind... And using that slang word, falls into the Delete comment area... I will leave your comment up for a day or so, only so the message comes across... You are more then welcome to respond, Sir.
@rafiqkie
@rafiqkie 3 жыл бұрын
I ❤️ your show, it's enjoyable & funniest script.. Keep on rolling sir! My wishes, be alive and keep safe always in this pandemic..
@josedavidgarcesceballos7
@josedavidgarcesceballos7 4 жыл бұрын
When is it going to be Hoxha against everybody?
@_Ocariao
@_Ocariao 4 жыл бұрын
Tito balls of steel
@rodolfo5022
@rodolfo5022 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed !
@videonofan
@videonofan 6 ай бұрын
*titanium
@jansiftar4445
@jansiftar4445 4 жыл бұрын
It really isn't fair to compair Tito with Stalin and after ww2 Yugoslavia with a dictatorship. Because Tito was elected president for life and everybody supported him and He didn't purge his party.
@samirmadani4027
@samirmadani4027 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to you for pronouncing all the names very accurately! You did great research!
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 3 жыл бұрын
The Chad Yugoslav partisans vs the Virgin Red Army.
@gregorstamejcic2355
@gregorstamejcic2355 4 жыл бұрын
Just a tiny footnote - Edvard Kardelj (Chard'el, i guess, not Cardage...) was a super-important, if controversial figure in yugoslavia. One of tito's closest aides, he was the mastermind behind the self-management ideas, which were quite distinct and could be (without the one-party optics) still relevant today. The basic idea was that small collectives - factories, townships and such - would manage their own affairs, without party influence.
@theodoros9428
@theodoros9428 3 жыл бұрын
In Yialtas the Churchill asked from to pressed Tito for free elections in Yougoslavia Stalin replayed : If you thik i can order Tito you are wrong Churchill didn't believe Stalin But later said : I think i made a mistake
@sirwolfnsuch
@sirwolfnsuch 4 жыл бұрын
Iosip vs. Iosif
@NB-kq7lm
@NB-kq7lm 4 жыл бұрын
Both with jews origin and both leaded by roman church or jezuits then tito became mason.
@viktorviktor1416
@viktorviktor1416 4 жыл бұрын
Opus dei
@karmaneh
@karmaneh Жыл бұрын
Just found you, so excited! Good luck mate :)
@josiptito9412
@josiptito9412 4 жыл бұрын
yugoslavia, best country
@nemanjavukovic6857
@nemanjavukovic6857 4 жыл бұрын
Druže Tito bela lica kad ćeš doći do Užica?
@yugoslaviaist
@yugoslaviaist 4 жыл бұрын
Kad ćeš doći u Užice i dovesti jedinice?
@nemanjavukovic6857
@nemanjavukovic6857 4 жыл бұрын
Druže Tito primi naske u redove partizanske.
@canman5060
@canman5060 4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays is it Croatia , Bosnia Hasigovina , Serbia , or Montenegro ?
@canman5060
@canman5060 4 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia = South Slav.
@beemail6983
@beemail6983 4 жыл бұрын
This makes the isolation manageable
@Thechezbailey
@Thechezbailey 4 жыл бұрын
Hang in there and consume history en masse!
@beemail6983
@beemail6983 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thechezbailey da comrade
@aliakbaryahya583
@aliakbaryahya583 4 жыл бұрын
Many people believe Shah of Iran was a stooge of US. But recent revelations claim he was poisoned by the British using nuclear particles and also had challenged the west on important issues like the the price of the oil and the right of Iran to have nuclear power. So please male a program about it.
@MrNikolaVulovic
@MrNikolaVulovic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video! Continue your great work!
@ExploringwithCole
@ExploringwithCole 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a Titoist!
@minhle6422
@minhle6422 4 жыл бұрын
This episode is good. He used a lot of fun analogy and didn't have long awkward pauses.
@kylelehn2249
@kylelehn2249 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail I thought this was an Epic Rap Battle of History video for a second
@FikoM
@FikoM Жыл бұрын
Many of Tito’s purges included Ustaše and Četnik leaders and their military personnel. This was a necessary step forward in the post WW2 unification and progression of Yugoslavia.
@estatesales9818
@estatesales9818 4 жыл бұрын
No one ever mentions it but I wonder how much of this, "Falling out" was a ruse and Stalin keeping his word to Churchill for a 50-50 split of Yugoslavia after the war??? Makes sense. He did abandon Greece as promised.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, the KuK was more oriented to fighting the Ottomans after centuries of “grenz-ing” against them
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "fighting the Ottomans" sure thing and it wasn't like the Krauts were stealing territories whomever they belonged!
@jollybritishchap485
@jollybritishchap485 4 жыл бұрын
"Two big spheres of influence" *swipes left*
@jonmcgee6987
@jonmcgee6987 4 жыл бұрын
I bet Tito would have really liked that one Fleetwood Mac song.
@tmack11
@tmack11 4 жыл бұрын
Tito is one of the most interesting people throughout all off history .
@Maus_Indahaus
@Maus_Indahaus 4 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was a Lieutenant (or something, I don't know exactly, and he's dead now so he can't tell me) in Yugoslav army at a time. He said, when the split happened, that they (government?) just came one night, woke them up one by one, and asked: Tito or Stalin? Whoever answered Stalin, disappeared. My grandpa survived that. Sadly, after only few years, his mother complained that in his yard grass hasn't been mowed, which was a great shame and disgrace for village people at a time, so he abandoned military service and returned to his village.
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly Жыл бұрын
I saw a comment in another video about Tito where someone called him the modern-day Charlemagne.
@robertoortizalvesjunior9133
@robertoortizalvesjunior9133 4 жыл бұрын
Great vídeo again!
@shay3355
@shay3355 3 жыл бұрын
And people think America and Russia had the greatest rivalry.
@burekksasirom
@burekksasirom Жыл бұрын
Why is this dude pronouncing his names as... Joseph? He's not an English, American or whatever. It's Iosif (eng: Yosiff) for Stalin, Josip (Eng:Yosip) for Tito.
@billmatson8711
@billmatson8711 4 жыл бұрын
Don't mess with Broz Tito . Outstanding content . Thank you
@sovietrussia8216
@sovietrussia8216 4 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if you guys are willing to do a video about the Hmong Secret War as it’s the most overshadowed proxy war in the Cold War.
@mihajlostojakovic9802
@mihajlostojakovic9802 4 жыл бұрын
I am from yugoslavia and i love me president tito
@vladob3
@vladob3 4 жыл бұрын
Od kolevke do groba najlepše je bilo Titovo doba!
@ivefabris7690
@ivefabris7690 4 жыл бұрын
Human tragedy from my town and the whole region of Istria, I already mentioned that the region passed from Italy to Yugoslavia and many Italians left, on the other side some 20 000 people mostly form the Italian town of Monfalcone came to Istria, as they were convinced communist and they wanted to help construct socialism. They were also internationalist and of course saw Stalin as the leader of the the communist block. When Jugoslavia was expelled they stayed loyal to Stalin, and many of them ended on Goli Otok, a Yugoslav soviet style gulag. Only few of them stayed in Istria, as most of them went back to Italy.
@intel386DX
@intel386DX 4 жыл бұрын
Ni su slucajno zavrsili na golom otoku
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Istra passed to Yugoslavia but you forgot to write how Istra and not just Istra, 1/4 of Slovenia too ended in Italian hand i 1918 as bribe or better reward from the west (France &UK) to gain Italia in WWI to start to fight against Germans/Austrians About Tito's Goli otok if this was like Stalin's Gulag nobody or at least a lot of them wouldn't survive but they actually survive in 99,9 % , but I got you you must ate a lot of "new" history
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
ooo poor them..most of them got free and made the next war in the region so suck on that
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
@@intel386DX ne razumijem kako svi glume jadnicke..zna se dobro za sta je bio Goli Otok..i zna se vrlo dobro koji politicari su otisli tamo i koji su bili na spisku da odu..isti oni sto su poslije sredili balkan da bude opet rupetina puna plemena sto glume neke jake narode iz 1500te godine I don't understand how everyone is acting miserable..it is well known what Goli Otok was for..and it is known very well which politicians went there and who were on the list to go..the same ones who later arranged the Balkans to be a hole again full of tribes playing some strong peoples from the 1500s just in case someone from the west is reading this stuff
@intel386DX
@intel386DX 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkodarko9 upravo to, sada ni sto golih otoka ne bi bili dovoljni da strpaju danasnji ljudski odpad. Bas mi je zao sto ni je Tito uspeo da poslaji tamo svi koji su to zasluzili ukljucujuci danasnji politicari I naj vise oni sto su nam sjebali Jugu I huskali kriminal I manipulisali narod!
@RitvikChandavarkar
@RitvikChandavarkar 4 жыл бұрын
When are you making an episode on the non aligned movement
@potatogibbon6214
@potatogibbon6214 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Yugoslavia, you will be missed.
@paulbalogh4582
@paulbalogh4582 Жыл бұрын
Great series. You are doing a fantastic job bringing this “old war”knowledge to todays people. Very shallow historical memory for most people.
@WillN2Go1
@WillN2Go1 4 жыл бұрын
Good videos. Thanks. In the mid 1980s, met a young woman from Zagreb. This was in Los Angeles. I asked her about her life in Yugoslavia and she quickly got around to mentioning that they all been told propaganda and lies, with the implication that she'd sorted it all out. I mentioned that I'd read Milovan Djilas, which surprised her. She knew all about Djilas, but had never been able to read any of his books, she did however know people who had. I then asked her, "What did Tito do during WWi?" "He was a pilot in the Serbian air force." I then said, "No. Djilas in his book 'Tito' said that Tito had been a sergeant in the Austrian-Hungarian army. The pilot story was made up." I thought she'd say, "Wow. I can see why they lied to us about that." Instead she said 'no! He was a pilot.' Usually when you meet someone who believes something you know to be factually untrue, at best it's annoying and tedious, at worst they can be belligerent, she was neither. She simply could not wrap her head about even the possibility that what I said, from Djilas, might be true. I found this fascinating, and I wondered what things did I believe to be true that were propaganda. (Being a member of the Vietnam War generation I was more prepared to accept being told that something was a lie, than to retain it, even if it wasn't.) So when I saw a documentary about western eye surgeons restoring the sight of dozens of North Koreans and all they can do is praise the Great Leader for it. Those people even when the boot is removed still have that stuff rolling around in their heads. (Be interesting to know what affects are still in the heads of defectors living in South Korea.) What I've learned about the Cold War that I think might be its greatest historical contribution is how two nations and their 'camps' were armed to the teeth but, with the exception of proxy wars, did not engage in an all out war. John von Neuman and game theory from the early 1950s seems to have been one of the milestones of figuring out that all out war could be avoided. Also Kennedy's reading and being influenced by Barbara Tuchman's The Guns of August and its effect on the Cuban Missile Crisis. But what was going on on the Soviet side? Also during the 1960s in the U.S. the USSR was presented as a horrible place of deep poverty, total control by the secret police, Gulags, executions and droning propaganda. We were shown documentaries about communism that contained clips of the early Soviet films like Battleship Potemkin, Strike, Ten Days that Shook the World. I was in 5th and 6th grade, we loved these movies, they were very exciting (I've always wondered if the New Left hadn't been influenced towards revolution from having seen these films. I got radical, but when I got to college and saw the original movies, I quickly figured out that I didn't want to make revolution, I wanted to make movies.) One long scene, we 11 year old boys loved, was captured White soldiers during the Russian Civil War taking turns smoking a last cigarette in front of an open pit, while other White soldiers took turns shooting them and then taking their place. For Chinese communism there were scenes of people being buried alive. The ground was moving and soldiers stamped on it. We immediately spotted that the soldiers in these scenes were wearing Japanese Army uniforms from WWII. The teacher told us that the Chinese communists had taken a lot of weapons and stuff from the Japanese. We didn't believe it. Some of the shots we'd seen before were from the Nanking Massacre. (How did these images taken by Japanese soldiers get out? They'd dropped them off at the commercial photo lab in Shanghai, where the Chinese made duplicates.) What I only learned in the 1990s was that the Soviet economy had been expanding more rapidly than the West, until 1970 when it flat lined. The USSR having started much farther behind than the US and Europe, had never come close to catching up... but I could now see why Khrushchev in the Kitchen Debate said 'we will bury you,' and it was considered a real threat. As a thinking young person in the late 1960s my friends and I were puzzled that so much effort was being spent convincing us that communism was a disaster. We didn't like communism, or fascism but we figured out that we were being lied to. If it was such a failure why so much worry? The Vietnam War was clearly a fiasco and everything our government said about it could be seen as false from multiple angles. Guys returning said it was a mess, government pronouncements and promises never turned out the way they said. It made us very cynical. When I got to college in 1974 I joined with the radicals and antiwar groups, but because the draft had ended, almost none of the people my age cared about what was still happening in southeast Asia. It was too easy to just drift back to 'patriotism'. Of the radicals I knew, many were Marxist, but not doctrinaire, most were 'socialists' in that we figured the Swedes had found a good balance between business and taking care of people. We knew the difference between business and capitalism. I only knew of two actual members of the Communist Party USA. The other Marxists didn't like them. One guy said, "Every CP member I've ever met just seems sneaky. No one trusts them." I later knew a few old American Communists, from the 30s and 40s, some who stuck with it in the 50s. Totally different personalities, they were more like all the old union people I knew growing up in Detroit. Another aspect of growing up in the 60s. You could call it the Boris and Natasha faction. Communism and the Cold War stand off could be the source of humor. (It took me 20 years to finally get all the jokes I'd seen in the Rocky & Bullwinkle show. Pottsylvania? The communist country Boris and Natasha were from? I was so little when I first saw this, and the map that looked like Pennsylvania, I actually wondered, Was Pennsylvania communist? My grandmother was from there so I asked her. ) In college my friend Ben Marks and I stopped to chat up a Socialist Workers Party (Communist) guy on campus. He had a pile of these very Soviet looking posters. We let him prattle on about the 'future'. Ben asked him, "How can you keep the purity of communism after the revolution?" It didn't take this guy more than about 30 seconds to start talking about reeducation camps and executions.Yikes! We did get a poster from him. We thought it was hilarious: On it were the six Most Important Communist Leaders in History! The Big Beards: Marx and Engels, Little beard Lenin, big 'stash Stalin, Mao and.... Enver Hoxha of Albania. The funny bit was here were all these looming giants and then there was a guy who looked like your uncle from Chicago. WTF? We taped it to the wall of the dining room in our Robert Owen Co - op house.(socialist, and still there). Everybody who saw it burst out laughing. When no one was looking a girl tore it into tiny bits. Why did you do that? "That, that was....communism." Ben said, "Yeah, but it was funny." The test of being open minded was if you could still laugh. Okay, enough of my Cold War nostalgia....let's get back to the quarantine.
@lakiifornication
@lakiifornication 3 жыл бұрын
Don't really know who you were talking to in LA, but I just can not believe this girl thought Tito was a pilot during WW1. It was general knowledge that he was in the KuK army and it was an important part of the story of how he became a communist. The only thing that was sugarcoated at the time was the fact that his regiment at the start of the war was involved in combat in Serbia and atrocities were committed, that was usually left out, but not always. I mean, the man openly talked about these things himself, look at Tito's interview with Life magazine in the '50s and later interviews. So, I'm pretty sure it was not a problem with propaganda, but poor education. This was part of the curriculum in high school and grade school and a still can't believe she got that wrong.
@cultmamacultmama3571
@cultmamacultmama3571 Жыл бұрын
Be careful with Croatians talking about Yugoslavia...they are very resentful towards Yugoslavia and very often tell straight out lies about it, in order to make it look bad...
@deanbuss1678
@deanbuss1678 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew about this "relationship", till now. Thanks 👍 David
@Jodonho
@Jodonho 4 жыл бұрын
Castro would understand.
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn 4 жыл бұрын
Actualy Castro didn like Tito because of his easy way of comunism Castro was more on Soviet side
@darkodarko9
@darkodarko9 4 жыл бұрын
@@altergreenhorn but it wasnt comunisam.. only countries with socialisam were Yugoslavia and Cuba...comunisam was in Venezuela China USSR Romania Bulgaria Albania Vietnam Korea..and some others dont remember..
@iliakaikaci
@iliakaikaci 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm pretty sure some of you can rap about Stalin's early life. In Georgian. Backwards." How did you know I can do that
@MarkoKraguljac
@MarkoKraguljac 4 жыл бұрын
@The Cold War 8:15 Tito with Aleksandar Ranković not Enver Hoxha
@CArchivist
@CArchivist 4 жыл бұрын
Tito was openly hostile to the Marshall Plan in the late 40s, then actively joined in the Military Assistance Program which U.S. military aid and training was provided to the Yugoslavian armed forces in the 50s
@malizlato
@malizlato 4 жыл бұрын
actually yes...there is the evidence about that letter......Stalin biographer Roy Medvedev published a book where he delivers that very letter which he found in kgb/nkvd archives.....and further more...when Khrushchev visited Yugoslavia...upon his departure while he was climbing into the plane he stopped...came down few steps and looked at Tito...and just said "Thank you"...which later was confirmed to be in regard on Tito's promise in letter
@surfboy344
@surfboy344 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a show on Soviet military deployment in Eastern Europe and the Warsaw Pact war plans.
@yaguapiru42
@yaguapiru42 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy very much your videos, David. When you are done with the hot spots you can start with Latin American countries, it happened a lot during the cold war here. Cheers from Argentina
@kajagrkova8546
@kajagrkova8546 5 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on the effects the split had on Yugoslavia in terms of their economy, political stability and diplomacy
@TheMisa92
@TheMisa92 4 жыл бұрын
fun fact, Tito was only man who smoked in white house (smoking there is not allowed due to house been on fire one time) and he kinda raised the stakes, he smoked Cuban cigare in middle of Cuban Crisis... :D
@ekrem6303
@ekrem6303 4 жыл бұрын
TITO was a legend better than Stalin
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 4 жыл бұрын
Tito was a titan
@NikhilSingh-007
@NikhilSingh-007 Жыл бұрын
What's the background music?
@alanstaresina1916
@alanstaresina1916 2 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia was a great place for growing up in the 70s and 80s.
@prasannamondal7215
@prasannamondal7215 4 жыл бұрын
Well explanation Sir!
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