You’re probably thinking of the term “tell tale”. A tall tale is something of an unbelievable story.
@theluckiesteh9058 Жыл бұрын
Sure, the Toei episodes had errors up the wazoo but AKOM came in and made it even worse.
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Жыл бұрын
"No fear. (AKOM gets hired to do your animation) 1 fear."
@calvinstraveldreams Жыл бұрын
It’s not just the errors, but the much cruder art style that makes AKOM episodes look bad. Specifically the characters consistently look “off” in terms of proportions, with really strange expressions as well-like they were drawn by children. It’s especially noticeable because while Toei episodes have lots of errors, the overall art style is actually quite good by 1980s toy cartoon standards, whereas the AKOM episodes look like GoBots episodes, or even like 1970s era Hanna-Barbera cartoons.
@KazuyaMithra Жыл бұрын
An interesting fact about AKOM: Part of the reason they switched studios was because the season 1-2 series director Kozo Morishita (who is Toei Animation's chairman) left Transformers and started directing Saint Seiya; right after working on Transformers The Movie. That's how Nelson Shin went from producer to series director during season 3.
@larrychilders6599 Жыл бұрын
And then they went to Dragon Ball Z after Saint Seiya
@beartrapinuwuland Жыл бұрын
That image of "all" the combaticons makes me think of how funny it would be to have some form of action master type figure of the different combiners but in the same scale as the other figures
@misterbadguy7325 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing about AKOM was that the Simpsons animators apparently had a pretty fond opinion of them, claiming they consistently put in the best work. They even threw in an homage to the studio in that one episode where Bart and Lisa write Itchy and Scratchy scripts under Grandpa's name--at the award ceremony, there's a He-Man-esque cartoon named "Strongdar, Master of Akom."
@PrincessMatrix Жыл бұрын
I think that's because of the shows themselves. The Simpsons was a smash success, so they obviously put their A team to work to ensure they stay in their good graces. Transformers and Batman were toy commercials (Granted, Batman went above and beyond, but the studios at large were mostly interested in making a cartoon to advertise the toys), so they didn't put in as much effort
@TF80s11 ай бұрын
@@PrincessMatrix No, it's because the studio was only starting out when they worked on Transformers, most of the animators weren't that experienced, Transformers was their first series...obviously over the years they improved, especially by the time it got to the Simpsons era. The Simpsons was also a much easier cartoon to animate given it's simplified character models and backgrounds.
@ShinSeikiEvan5 ай бұрын
Simpsons are much easier to draw than Transforming robots. AKOM bit off WAY more than they could chew.
@Doglad983 ай бұрын
@@PrincessMatrix AKOM did get fired from working on Batman the Animated series, and I feel like that was their wake up call to not screw up that badly again.
@KazuyaMithra Жыл бұрын
Another important note: the reason for AKOM winding up with so many incorrect models was because Toei Animation was ultimately responsible for creating the final models and having final say over which Sunbow designs DO and DON'T get altered; seemingly without Sunbow knowing in some cases. AKOM simply took what was received from Sunbow, and seemingly never corresponded at all with Toei (Toei having shifted their priorities by this time in favor of Saint Seiya, until Takara created the G1 sequel series).
@RodimusMinor1987 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Akom draw a Snarl in Rodimus colors amongst the Decepticons still haunts me with how bad it was
@Critter97 Жыл бұрын
10:12 Core class Bluestreak and deluxe class Ironhide and Ratchet.
@Transfixed Жыл бұрын
9:34 "telltale signs" is the term you're looking for. Good topic, I learned a lot about Akom today 👍
@KasumiKenshirou Жыл бұрын
Nelson Shin is the guy who started AKOM that you're referring to. He directed the 86 movie and prior to that rotoscoped the lightsabers in the original Star Wars. (I think his work might have been redone in the Special Editions.) He was involved with an interesting piece of lost media: an animated feature called Empress Chung, which was a co-production between North and South Korea. 6:44 Modern Simpsons doesn't look all that great. The characters are animated very robotically compared to the earlier seasons from the 20th Century. This shot at 15:00: A lot of them are more than just miscolored, but off-model as well. I think some of them are just derivative generic robots that they slapped together from pieces of other characters. 15:13 They did the inconsistent number of Cyclonus Armada vs. Sweeps mistake in the movie, so at least it's not a new mistake. The movie never had THAT many Cyclonuses, though. 18:07 Hot Rod is also missing his yellow spoiler from his back and has a Decepticon symbol on his chest. I honestly don't mind Hun-Gurr being that large, if Abominus were even larger.
@chasen0436 Жыл бұрын
if Hasbro got Sunrise Studios to do a Transformers show that would be epic
@calvinstraveldreams Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, won’t happen given that Sunrise and Bandai are tight, and the rivalry between Bandai and TakaraTomy.
@jessopjessopjessop860 Жыл бұрын
Worth noting that the owner of AKOM was Nelson Shin - who directed the '86 Movie.
@OptimusPhillip Жыл бұрын
I think the word you're looking for is "tell-tale sign." As in, a sign that tells a tale.
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Жыл бұрын
"Akom." Me: "NOOOOOOOO!!! (Blinks) What? Sorry, force of habit."
@Patrick2480 Жыл бұрын
AKOM was found by a Korean guy that worked in the 60s in the US, then move back to South Korea, thats why in The Rebirth end credits its mostly korean names of the staff
@TransDrummer1312 Жыл бұрын
So it was a Korean sweatshop basically. No wonder it was all-expenses-spared.
@Cdr2002 Жыл бұрын
16:49 blaster looks vaguely like Miles O’Brien to me there This feels like foreshadowing
@vustvaleo8068 Жыл бұрын
so working on Batman TAS is the first and only time they got fired? that is like setting a new record, lol.
@Headcrabman9999 Жыл бұрын
The phrase you're looking for is "tell-tale"
@Isolder74 Жыл бұрын
It involves a lot of heart!
@CHASEMARC Жыл бұрын
to be fair if AKOM was given old, outdated pictures of the transformers how could they get it right?
@katsomeday1 Жыл бұрын
I loved in "The Autobot Run" where AKOM animated Chip Chase standing up from his wheelchair to catch a grenade. Then again Chip could rip a 5 1/4" floppy apart like it was nothing, so feats of strength like pushing himself out of his chair to catch it are believable. 😆
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
Quick question- would the Newage or Magic Square Constructicons scale well with SS86 Ultra Magnus? Because I have the morbid desire to replicate that infamous error from “Carnage in C-Minor” just because it’s hysterical to me. Magnus just looks like a perturbed Dark Helmet responding to his underling saying “no, I didn’t see you playing with dolls, sir!”. I also want to see a Titan Class or Commander Class Broadside just so I can replicate the scene of Broadside using his ship mode to one-shot Devastator.
@crimsondynamo615 Жыл бұрын
Also have to replicate broadside and ultra Magnus heiling each other
@DetectiveBarricade Жыл бұрын
Hard to say considering 86 Ultra Magnus isn't out yet, but I'd suspect either set of unofficial Constructicons would be in the realm of "close enough". I wouldn't expect Ultra Magnus to be able to actually hold them like in the episode, mind you.
@larrychilders6599 Жыл бұрын
Ah Akom, the Studio Live of Transformers
@minimalbstolerance8113 Жыл бұрын
15:02 I know it's an animation error, but personally I like to think that this is actually us finally getting to see Cyclonus' "Armada" that Unicron promised but never delivered on.
@symbiote1982pk Жыл бұрын
It's telltale signs, tall tales refers to outlandish, unbelievable stories, often lies.
@feralstorm Жыл бұрын
AKOM gets a lot of work on many series by being one of the less expensive animation studios. They're far from incompetent, but how well they do depends heavily on the nature of what they're doing. Their work is fine on simpler, less ambitiously-animated shows like the Simpsons, but with more dynamic animation or complex character designs, like TF or Batman TAS, they stumble more frequently.
@rafy2983 Жыл бұрын
The inconsistencies are atrocious, this is the worst crime against Transformers, worse than Bayverse
@IsiahTomas Жыл бұрын
Worse than Kup's assassination in IDW's Transformers/Visionaries crossover? Or the Decepticon that kicked the puppy in the anime one time?
@ThePageofRage Жыл бұрын
Animation errors didn't make Bumblebee piss fuel onto John Turturro's head.
@genyakozlov1316 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePageofRageThat was actually one of the better jokes of the first movie. All humour involving Sam or his parents is way worse, especially his parents.
@mechanwhal6590 Жыл бұрын
(Laughs in Kiss Players)
@XenotHedgehog Жыл бұрын
Ramhorn hitting the guardian robot reminds me of the YGO card Super Rush Recklessly. I want that screenshot of Metroplex with the Eiffel Tower animated to make it look like he's playing electric guitar.
@marvelfanatic9535 Жыл бұрын
AKOM was the reason why the animation from X-Men: TAS was bad at times
@MikeD974 Жыл бұрын
Akom might have had bad animation but still thought season 3 was the best in g1
@alphatrion100 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Alot of the stories were good!
@krewlsorrow354 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking more into AKOM over the last few weeks. Funny how this video pops up (the algorithm, no doubt). The thumbnail made me think of something. It feels as though during the run of season 3, the Constructicon Scrapper got shafted by AKOM rather harshly in episodes that included him. He was mostly obscured and incorrectly animated (Rebirth part 1 being an example).
@dylancrossman8502 Жыл бұрын
I actually do like Optimus’s backpack being grey. It kind of looks like his trailer folds up and becomes it.
@robrice7246 Жыл бұрын
14:53 I know there's a fan website dedicated to it, which should work as a Legacy sub-line.
@jd213_ Жыл бұрын
Akom eps have their moments where characters are kinda drawn nicely, even if it's not amazing. And I'm so sick of CG TFs, I think I'd rather see Akom give TFs another shot rather than another CG series,
@samurexatlas7373 Жыл бұрын
9:39 Tell Tale Tall Tale is a big lie.
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Жыл бұрын
I mean. "tell" and "tall" are only 1 letter off.
@samurexatlas7373 Жыл бұрын
@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 I know, he asked and I answered. It was a simple response.
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Жыл бұрын
@@samurexatlas7373 Ye. Just trying to maybe give a rationale. You gud. :)
@YIONON1 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's nobody liked TheCore, when it aired me and my friends just went outside to play😮💨
@panelvixen Жыл бұрын
It gets worse, Rhino.
@IndyCrewInNYC Жыл бұрын
I remember "City of Steel" one of my favorites from Season 2, utterly ruined by Akom and its ugly pastels and creamcicle colors. 🤮
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Жыл бұрын
Same, bro. The concept is so awesome, but...AKOM...
@sabregunner1 Жыл бұрын
TJ, i think you mean "tell tale" tall tale is like paul bunyon and pecos bill
@echotransformer Жыл бұрын
TJ you create fantastic content…I’ll admit I was very surprised AKOM animated Only Human, it was definitely one of the better ones with brighter colors, decent proportions a bit more gloss and fewer goofy movements
@TF80s11 ай бұрын
Are we sure he's right about Only Human though? As far as I'm concerned, that was one of the best looking eps in season three.
@ShadowWingTronix Жыл бұрын
Double-checked the numbers: season 1 was 16 episodes, and three of those were a miniseries they just shoved into the first full season. It only aired once a week. Season two is when they started airing FIVE days a week so you can see where they needed help to fill the required week count (if memory serves back then 13 weeks was a season for kids TV) on a larger schedule. When Hot Rod is being attacked by Hun-Grr his backpack thing is missing. Just today I saw a couple of PSA videos with Spider-Man and a group of more cartoony designed kids and the occasional adult. Spidey wasn't quite the same as the 80s cartoon, which would have been weird even though it was also by Marvel Productions, but the animation wasn't that bad. I guess it depends on their time crunch?
@unnamed12346 Жыл бұрын
AKOM honestly sometimes made the weakest of Toei look like they were animated by Seasoned Pros sometimes (Especially Carnage in C Minor, like mercy, why is it this horrendous?)
@philipjohnston5822 Жыл бұрын
AKOM did an episode of B:TAS? How?
@capmodesty Жыл бұрын
They did several, there are accounts from the showrunners about just how unimpressed they were with the quality
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Жыл бұрын
By falling aft-backwards into it?
@philipjohnston5822 Жыл бұрын
@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 This is a good way of putting it.
@mattr75 Жыл бұрын
Akom: the gift that keeps on giving
@vxrdrummer Жыл бұрын
As an episode, I love the Core. It just hurts me how badly its drawn. The one I struggle to watch is the Autobot Run. It's just beyond bad and I'm surprised TJ didn't mention it. I watch G1 episodes most days and the AKOM ones are always difficult to cope with, as for the most part, they are well written episodes.
@maximusprime3459 Жыл бұрын
The switch in animation is jarring when re-watching the series.
@curbydinobot8633 Жыл бұрын
The reason Broadside had different looks and sizes
@mrf19741Ай бұрын
All of the animation in Carnage In C-Minor haunts me to this day. Seeing Devastator, Brawn, and Huffer fighting against Decepticons is just Sacrilegious!
@Smacgregor88 Жыл бұрын
AKOM proves with Simpsons they still can't do good with Transformers. AKOM = the animator Racheal Lillis voiced in her Jessie range (Animation Runner Kuromi)
@primusvsunicron1 Жыл бұрын
video on the rushed nature of The Unicron Trilogy please
@KamenRiderSeiryuXV0 Жыл бұрын
The worst Animation Studio, Akom. Not compatible when pairing Transformers.
@GreenLanternPrime01 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail for this video the first thing that popped into my mind was "City of Steel"!
@scifiguy26 Жыл бұрын
I noticed & hated that as a kid some episodes looked like anime👍 & some episodes looked like it was animated by Hanna-Barbera👎 🤮
@dialNforNinja Жыл бұрын
That Face of the Nijika screen cap explains why the new Legacy Ultra Magnus has such a small head, at least. Animation accuracy!
@nilesbrook4216 Жыл бұрын
Akom is the Bizarro to TMS Studio’s Superman
@LittlePixieBot Жыл бұрын
Since Toei was working on the movie, why didn't Hasbro/Sunbow utilize TMS over Akom? Sure Akom is cheaper, but it also reflects in the animation. You get what you paid for.
@bonorbitz5 ай бұрын
My guess is because making the movie was expensive, and S3 had to be produced at the same time in order to air in the fall after the movie’s release. So, Nelson Shin, director of the movie offered AKOM to do the whole season for a set amount of money which was competitive, low, and didn’t allow for corrections and adjustments.
@1cioda Жыл бұрын
Ah AKOM. Responsible for so many issues in animation. Check out some of the earlier BTAS episodes for a few good examples
@jetseekers Жыл бұрын
BTAS?
@Regrocks81 Жыл бұрын
@@jetseekersBatman: The Animated Series.
@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Жыл бұрын
Three words: CAT. SCRATCH. FEVER.
@Critter97 Жыл бұрын
They even got fired from that show because of their subpar work.
@mistyknightsbionicarm Жыл бұрын
They shitted up xmen too
@shawnkarg3794 Жыл бұрын
I was so underwhelmed by S3 as a kid. Optimus was dead, Rodimus was a wishy-washy replacement, Galvatron became a farce of Megatron, Grimlock got dumbed down into comic relief, and the Quintessons sucked. The Starscream ghost episodes and Optimus returning (for real or as a zombie) were meager highlights in the season.
@windsweeper8002 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't do the Return of Optimus Prime. The first episode was horribly animated though to be honest it was badly written anyway and the human villains voices were terrible.
@carlosmiramontes966610 ай бұрын
In season 2 Optimus Prime’s head is more square and Season 1 head is more round and it looks like he’s wearing a hat.
@superquad74 ай бұрын
If i had unlimited income, I'd pay for a high-end animation studio to reanimate "Five Facesof Darkness" at least. It's criminal that good of a story isnt animated with the brst of quality.
@LightBloxVidsYT6 ай бұрын
Hard to believe that this is the same animation studio that worked on the Simpsons and Animaniacs
@Rabbitlord108 Жыл бұрын
Maybe 2D. But here's an idea for a future video. What's the worst in terms of 3D animation?
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
Cough cough Machinima
@nickdeltufo3857 Жыл бұрын
Pick any episode from Energon. To the point where some scenes they would briefly swap back over to 2D for the Transformers.
@Rabbitlord108 Жыл бұрын
@@nickdeltufo3857I find it so weird that they did that. It's so jarring it's not even funny (Cybertron having the Transformers be 3D animated and the humans be 2D animated is something I also find jarring. Even if it's to a lesser degree) It's not Season 1 of the Iron Man cartoon using CG for part of Tony's suiting up segment odd. But still odd nonetheless.
@JohnWilliams-wl9px Жыл бұрын
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHonchoMachinima didn’t animate anything. The actual animators were Tatsunko production a famous studio in Japan.
@Rabbitlord108 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Yeah. I know that thanks to the Ruined Forever episode Diamond Bolt did on Combiner Wars.
@TrueNomadSkies Жыл бұрын
Selena looked fine as hell in that cat scratch episode just as she always did. Their work on Transformers was really where it shit the bed.
@PowerRangersLostGalaxyFanFilm Жыл бұрын
Speaking of AKOM, any episodes of Season 3 animated by them was very hard to watch. The cheapness and the quality of their animation weighted Season 3 and the Rebirth Miniseries down. Maybe the cheap animation of most of the bulk of season 3 set the tone of where the '86 movie set up. Given also it's somber melancholy post-Movie. Okay that's a bull crap reason. EDIT: Also, some of these AKOM episodes were featured in the Generation 2 Run of the show. Badly Enough when the G2 "cartoon" was cancelled in early 1995, they concluded with "City Of Steel" from what I heard.
@TF80s11 ай бұрын
Yeah, l never understood why they gave so many akom episodes the G2 treatment but then left so many of the far superior episodes out...crazy stuff.
@destroyer_3002 Жыл бұрын
18:12 I noticed hotrod also has a decepticon badge. (I don't know if that's intentional)
@LittlePixieBot Жыл бұрын
It bothered me that Alom continuously gave Optimus Prime a white backpack when it's supposed to be ed. Occasionally, Toei would mispaint something here and there, but not in the entire episode.
@Dystnine4 ай бұрын
They did season 4 of Transformers and Prime's "mohawk" was coloured white the whole time. Also Bumblebee and Goldbug. Season 4 was weird.
@raulzavala9061 Жыл бұрын
I think even any GoBot episode is better animated than an AKOM TF episode, I'm surprised Nelson Shin didnt have AKOM animate Transformers The Movie.
@benwalters9725 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Tj
@jacksonbell6601 Жыл бұрын
I love this video
@Enigma2K99 Жыл бұрын
Yes... YES. BURN THEM.
@onespark100 Жыл бұрын
"Tell tale"
@Ranma_Leopard Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video
@MutantsInDisguise Жыл бұрын
AKOM was one of the reasons Transformers went from a phenomena to a failure after the snimated film.
@julianlymond975 Жыл бұрын
*Animated
@random_toaster Жыл бұрын
Tell tale signs. 😊
@A-Microwave Жыл бұрын
here's some help, you mean to say telltale whenever you're saying tall tale
@dylanphilpott8698 Жыл бұрын
Akom is kinda like ai upscaled art it just looks off
@shanejayell Жыл бұрын
I do remember season three being pretty bad....
@robertoenbusqueda4302 ай бұрын
En Ese estudio de animación parecían que dibujaban menores de edad.
@Rojixus Жыл бұрын
AKOM is the Devil.
@windsweeper8002 Жыл бұрын
Akom was hired so the animation matched the poor writing.
@santiago-r7i9 ай бұрын
yes five faces of darkness is badly animated, also the horrible rebirth from season 4