The Father Figures of Transformers

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[@zaxitron2714]

The Nobel Starsaber truly is the type of dad to make an out of pocket joke

[@samurexatlas7373]

But the Brainmaster is in his pocket

[@zaxitron2714]

@@samurexatlas7373 that’s the point

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@zaxitron2714 You missed the dad joke

[@zaxitron2714]

@@samurexatlas7373 oh I see it

[@zaxitron2714]

@@samurexatlas7373 I think

[@RedneckOgre9000]

Surprised Spike being a dad wasn’t mentioned.

[@Alverant]

That means acknowledging the existence of Daniel.

[@superomegaprimemk2]

That is one of the most important ones as we get to see Spike as a father who is happening to juggle being a parent and an ambassador to the wider galaxy

[@megazaku1139]

@@Alverantwhat’s wrong with Daniel?

[@RKStrikerJK5]

@@Alverant Daniel is not _nearly_ as bad as folks remember him.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

@@RKStrikerJK5 Unless of course we're talking about how he's portrayed in Headmasters.

[@mariapazgonzalezlesme]

Now I want a mini-series of Grimlock and his Technobot sons.

[@matthewelliott7294]

Fanfic writers get to it

[@superomegaprimemk2]

A comedy would work best for that!!

[@mariapazgonzalezlesme]

@@superomegaprimemk2 With Swoop, Snarl and Slug as their uncles / aunts. Wait, so that means that Slash could be the mom?

[@superomegaprimemk2]

@mariapazgonzalezlesme I would say Slash would be the long-lost sister or a cousin who has been twice removed than a mother due to the fact that she is a later character who never existed in the G1 cartoon!!

[@mariapazgonzalezlesme]

@@superomegaprimemk2 Hmmm fair enough. Meaning that Wheeljack is the grandpa.

[@Alverant]

As a GenX who was a latchkey kid who watched Transformers, Prime was a father figure of sorts.

[@Nolan_Studios_OFFICIAL]

Happy Father’s Day.

[@GladDestronger]

I just wished mine a few hours ago. He wasn't home... But I left a message wishing him a happy Father's Day.

[@Arthus850]

7:10 Marissa Faireborn’s father’s name is Dashiell Faireborn, and he may have been a one off cameo in Transformers, but he’s far from a one off character. Because Dashiell Faireborn is the real name of Flint from GI Joe which as I’m sure you know is canon to G1 Transformers. He was even voiced by Flint’s voice actor, Bill Ratner, in his cameo in Transformers. And her mother is Alison Hart-Burnett, aka Lady Jaye from GI Joe.

[@samurexatlas7373]

Excuse me, WHAT

[@Arthus850]

@@samurexatlas7373 yup. A character from Transformers is the daughter of two main characters from GI Joe. I mean, it makes sense. The two shows are canon with each other. There was even an episode of Transformers Season 3 where a bunch of terrorists extracted the minds of Rodimus Prime, Springer, Ultra Magnus, and Arcee and put them in human bodies while their robot bodies were controlled by the terrorists. And who gave them their technology? A black market weapons dealer named Old Snake who is very clearly an aged past his prime Cobra Commander, even voiced by Chris Latta and does the Cobra yell at the end of the episode, though it makes him cough due to his old age.

[@8ball180]

The girl in the manga is Marissa's daughter,sue, not marissa herself and the man with her is Dirk manus not Flint

[@Arthus850]

@@8ball180 Thanks for the info. I didn’t know that, and neither did TJ apparently since he seemed to think it was Marissa. I was just answering his question about Marissa’s father’s name.

[@8ball180]

@@Arthus850 No Tj said it was Marissa's daughter

[@Varatho]

You have to wonder why Star Saber didn't use his Brainmaster mode more often, if only so he could fit inside the school to check it out.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

2023- the year that the movies and comics remembered Optimus used to be a father figure (with one medium doing it far better than the other)!

[@RogerPyoko]

Speaking of Grimlock and the Technobots, one of my favorite fan arts I ever saw online is Grimlock looking through a digital "photo album" and showing the Technobots pictures of Wheeljack and Ratchet. It's just a sweet image.

[@adianolkonen8488]

Does this make Wheeljack, Rachet, and Sparkplug Witwicky as the Technobot's Grandpas? Canonically (per G1 cartoon) those three made the Dinobots, and Grimlock the Dinobot made the Technobots.

[@adianolkonen8488]

Several comments to add to this topic: -The relationship between Lio Convoy and Lio Junior can easily run parallel to how Young Justice depicted Superman/Clark Kent & Superboy/Connor Kent. -I abdolutely agree with you; Alex Malto is yet another Father figure to really look up to! -Referencing Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime when he was explaining his leadership style to Ultra Magnus, "We are Family." This cements Optimus's status as Robo-Dad.

[@stevenbock1961]

If Grimlock making the Technobots was given the time for it, I could see Grimlock cognitive decline referencing adult children dealing with parents having Alzheimer.

[@FortressMunkimus1985]

Chief Charlie Burns from Rescue Bots should have got a mention. Come on a single Father leading a team of his children and 5 Autobots in all sorts of weird events definitely makes him a good Dad. As nobody else is going to mention him, Denny from RID 2015 at least deserves a Honorable mention.

[@jimmyrobot3170]

10:10 Lyzack was Leozack’s twin sister

[@lc5719]

And his wife?!

[@jimmyrobot3170]

@@lc5719Nope

[@THEW0LFB0Y]

Was not expecting the last slide 💀

[@karatgaming5792]

10:53 One interesting story revision for this could be: Sixshot starting off as an Autobot and a great father for Quickswitch, but later becoming a Decepticon due to a terrible hardship of his wife getting destroyed by evil aliens. Quickswitch fighting hard to convince his father that being a Decepticon isn't the right way to cope, and after a while Sixshot coming to his senses and becoming an Autobot again, though reformatted as Greatshot.

[@warmachine9846]

The character's name was Dirk Manis and somehow I can't believe Fairborn was actually stupid enough play carry on a relationship with that dude. Or that Flint would tolerate him

[@violette1349]

10:14 Lyzack's his sister actualy, that's why she looks like that

[@Jimboliah3985]

You really should've mentioned exactly how Star Saber became Jan's father. So for those who are interested: Jan's parents, Mr and Mrs Minakaze, were crewmates on a spaceship. And one fateful day, they were killed when that ship was attacked and destroyed by the Decepticon Dino Force, with Jan himself being just a baby at the time. Before the shuttle blew up, Jan's parents loaded him into an escape pod they fired into space, becoming the only human who survived the attack. He was found by the Autobots, with Star Saber raising him as his son.

[@autumbreeze1129]

Isaac Sumdac is an amazing dad, having to try and adapt so quickly to things no dad ever really has had to. One moment, just a single dude. Next moment, legit dad without any mother to help him raise the daughter who just seemingly appeared out of nowhere. Thankfully, due to how he handled raising Sari, it seems she never questioned where her mother was before getting her upgrade. Also, I never thought about that, how he got to skip dealing with his daughter going through puberty 😂. With a half Cybertronian daughter, I can only imagine how much more stressful Sari's puberty would've been. Dude seriously dodged a bullet there. Talk about lucky 😂

[@Undrave]

Star Saber's core is a tiny human size robots but he never hangs out with his son as a tiny robot. Pretty sure Lyzack is Leozack's SISTER, not wife.

[@medafan53]

Who else started chuckling the second TJ mentioned the two guys who are actually named Optimus Prime, knowing about the latter one.

[@piranha6406]

6:54 OMG yes that would be such a fun video especially seeing all the different types of enrgon food

[@Rabbitlord108]

Happy Father's Day.

[@Roboshi2007]

Don't forget IDW 1.0 tyrpticon who became a father to an entire hotspot of New transformers and readily called them his children. (Though thinking back was trypicon female in 1.0?)

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

10:53 I actually have a rough outline for a four-issue limited series all about late G1 that seeks to explore Sixshot and Quickswitch’s relationship. I went off the one line used to describe Quickswitch (“Determined to make good where his Decepticon father went bad, Quickswitch joins the Autobots) and fleshed out the story from there. Basically, Sixshot and his brother Greatshot (I don’t care what the Legends manga said; the two are separate in my mind) split over whether to get involved with the war, with Sixshot joining the Decepticons and Greatshot joining the Mercenaries. Centuries passed, and Sixshot had donated some of his CNA to a group of Decepticon geneticists… said CNA ended up in a protoform charged with a Phase Sixer spark that would eventually become Quickswitch. However, the Protectobots raided the facility and spread the protoforms across the cosmos to keep them out of Decepticon hands. Quickswitch ended up under the guidance of hoity-toity flyer Highbrow. He’s a real stubborn, jaded, and trigger-happy guy who hates the Decepticons for “killing his father”. Unbeknownst to him, Sixshot and Greatshot have both been looking for him for millennia…

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

You mentioned the Victory Manga, but I'm surprised you never brought up how Deathsaurus adopted a kid(Solon Kitakaze) in a similar manner to his eternal frenemy Star Saber.

[@samurexatlas7373]

10:13 Wait Wait I thought she was his sister TJ please don't do me like this.

[@cristiantiniguar-sevilla467]

Deathsaurus has a wife, Leozack has a sister, and TJ had a brain-fart and combined the two.

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@cristiantiniguar-sevilla467 GATTAAAAAAAAI!!!!!!

[@ixadorillcasterthe3rd146]

Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus aren't technically brothers. But they are semi related

[@cyberdraco001]

And the RID 2001 versions actually are brothers.

[@warmachine9846]

You forgot to mention Danny's dad Spike you know spark plugs kid

[@Cdr2002]

10:14 Lyzack is Leozack’s sister, you may have gotten confused with Deathsaurus’s wife Esmeral

[@RenjiAbarai777]

12:05 My personal canon is that she becomes PotP Slash with how the story ends.

[@cyberproductions3736]

I Iike in one idw comic they introduced mentors that look after a young bot. Basically a parent for them 😁

[@Razorgeist]

Good idea for a video. The idea of a transformer adopting a human child as and being a father is such an interesting idea. Glad to see someone did it with Star Sabre. Honestly it would be a good idea for the next live action movie to try. Hey you forgot to mention Optimus Primal. He was a father figure to Cheetor and to a lesser extent Nightscream.

[@bryannkam]

I would say that Optimus/Orion and Trion have a more grandfather and grandson-type relationship, especially in the Aligned Continuity, their dynamic always gave off a Harry and Dumbledore-like feel to me. To the point that, had he not passed away recently, I would have preferred Michael Gambon voice Alpha Trion in Transformers One rather than Laurence Fishburne.

[@faustmeth]

Something tells me that the Optimus Prime that stole a car didn’t have a father figure in his life…

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

LIO CONVOY AND LIO JUNIOR YAY! My favorite father/son duo. Whenever Lio Convoy comes around and eventually gives in, my heart melted. I know it’s cheesy but it was so cute :)

[@escamoso6351]

Now i wonder who is the father of the autobot brothers, lol

[@lawsonallen7741]

The Six shot having a Son thing was first found out in a toy add.

[@mvanh1956]

You forgot Chief Charlie Burns in Rescue Bots, and Denny Clay in RID 2015

[@adianolkonen8488]

Absolutely! These two human Dads were both wonderful parents!!

[@inesatt1313]

Spike Optimus Prime Professor Sumdac Star Saber Optimus Primal Earthspark Megatron Alex Malto The parents of The Unicron Trilogy Daniel(in the future) Ultra Magnus Sparkplug Witwicky

[@elxr9434]

Hate to be that guy but..... Lyzack is leozacks sister not wife

[@Patrick2480]

some people consider Soundwave a father to all those animals and Rumble/Frenzy.

[@TJOmega]

In one of the GI Joe Transformers crossover comics they actually wrote him that way.

[@ethanmiller5469]

Gives me season 1 optimum prime of the 80s cartoon vibes for some reason

[@dylancrossman8502]

As far as human fathers go, Denny Clay, Chief Burns, and Doc Greene are all pretty top tier

[@Cdr2002]

I honestly prefer when Transformers DOESNT abide by strict “they’re robots” logic. They’re also people

[@8ball180]

A mixture of both takes is ideal where they a similar family structure to humans but the mechanics are different

[@Cdr2002]

@@8ball180 I agree with you, I just get really annoyed with people who get really pedantic and in the weeds about the robot stuff as if these aren’t stories told by humans for the benefit of a human audience

[@8ball180]

@@Cdr2002 oh yeah those people are very annoying and have a very limiting view on robot stories

[@RialVestro]

Some other notable dads NOT mentioned in the video... If we treat the creator of a new Transformer as their parent, which seemed to be the case in G1 fiction... Wheeljack is the Dinobot's father and technically the Technobots Grandfather. I also think they're some how related to BW Dinobot but not sure how since he was originally a Predacon. Spike himself is also a dad after the time skip in the movie. I don't think G1 Alpha Trion is really Optimus Prime's dad but they did build the Arielbots together. There is however a fiction where Alpha Trion is specifically mentioned as the father of Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus who are brothers in RID2001 and both mention Alpha Trion by name as their father. He never actually appears in the show but is name dropped. Not sure how that plays out in the original Car Robots version but it was a thing in the English dub. And of course RID2001 literally kicks off with the first scene of the series being Megatron in his giant hand mode kidnapping the main character's father because he's a scientist and Megatron needs his scientific knowledge for his plans. The main plot of most of the series is just about the Autobots helping Koji to get his father back. There's Ron Witwickey and Cade Yager in the live action films. And as much as I don't like the live action movies I will give them credit for doing one thing right and giving the human characters actual names. Sparkplug sounds like he should be a robot not a human and that name has been reused for robotic characters where it fit better than the G1 version. So I'm happy the live action films called him Ron instead. Cade has a more interesting and more active role though and oddly never stops being a dad even when they wrote his daughter out of the last movie using that excuse that she was away at collage, he still writes to her, he still talks to her, it's not like they forgot about her. He still acts like a dad even when his daughter isn't physically there with him. Chief Burns from Rescue Bots is the father to 4 kids, Cade, Dani, Graham, and Cody. Cody being the youngest is the only one without a Rescue Bot partner but he kind of bonds with all of them. There's also Professor Greene who is the father of Cody's best friend Frankie and later in the series gets remarried and has another baby... they never mention what happen to Frankie's mom we just know the woman who is the mother of her baby sister is her step mom. And you didn't mention Earthspark Wheeljack who Twitch calls Dad2 because she sees Alex as her first dad but then later finds out Wheeljack invented the drone she scanned for her alt mode and Wheeljack teaches her how to use the tech he built into the drone so there's a familiar bond there. And spoilers... I did get a chance to watch most of season 2 and there's another 2 part episode all about Twitch and Wheeljack that expands on their relationship. I kinda like that Wheeljack didn't really see himself that way at first but has warmed up to Twitch over time. BTW not official canon but I did write my own TF fan fiction that uses a lot of these familiar bonds and is set in G1 fiction. Optimus Prime and Elita-One are the parents of 3 children, Optimus Primal, Heinrad, and Slo-Mo. In my fiction there's a Primus Council, loosly based on the Convoy Council from Japanese fiction but they aren't all directly related to Optimus Prime, they've just all been reformatted to look like him. Optimus Primal however being a direct decendant who took his name I just literally wrote in as his son. Heinrad is in there because he shares Elita-One's ability to stop time. And Slo-Mo, which yes is based on the Animated human super villain, in my fiction is a former Autobot turned Decepticon who also shares her mother's ability to manipulate time just like her brother Heinrad. I never really thought about Megatron that much but I basically treated all of the BW cast with G1 names who were meant to be seperate characters as if they're directly related to their G1 name sake in some way. I just put a lot more thought into Optimus Prime and Elita-One having kids because I wanted a back story that explained Slo-Mo's extreamly rare powers that only 2 characters have ever been known to have. (Technically Bayverse Hot Rod can do it too but that's a different continuity.) I even gave her 2 better known brothers that are actual established characters to explain how she fell in with the Decepticons. My Slow-Mo is basically a forgotten middle child.

[@nitrostormskystriker478]

Why we're You banned from tfw?

[@RialVestro]

​@@nitrostormskystriker478 I was being discriminated against and harrassed by one of their moderators. The person locked a thread for an argument that had already ended on peaceful terms over 6 months before he even did anything about it. He also locked me out of a mental health thread for talking about my mental health. I went to an admin above him to get that reversed which took them nearly 3 months to do and the moderator was still an active moderator after I complained about him to the Admins and was still continueing to abuse his privligages to stalk me on the forums. I ended up ASKING them to delete my account because of this which they refused to do so I got banned on purpose by publicly calling out the staff on their abuse of power.

[@RialVestro]

​​@@nitrostormskystriker478 Not sure how that's relevant to this conversation but basically there was a moderator abusing privages and harassing board members he didn't agree with. At least 4 other people I'm aware of also had complaints about him and nothing was ever done about it. I tried going through the proper channels to complain to admins about him but between multiple complaints about him privately and continued harassment for over a year and a half I finally went public with the issues which is against forum rules and was banned instantly. Clearly their priorities are more focused on protecting their moderators shady behavior than protecting their members. I actually asked them to delete my account because I was no longer interested in being a member there and they wouldn't let me to that. My tolerance was wore down and they left me with no better options. I've been much happier since than banning though. I regret nothing.

[@Ice--Scream]

Transformers needs to explore more familial relationships not only between humans and bots but between bots and other bots. It might just be my aroace ass being self indulgent but i would love for Optimus and Bumblebee's father-son relationships to be explored in a more serious story (like as soon as i read about them in the go! Go! Manga i was just hooked!), or hell! Reinterpreting Starscream's and Megatron's relationship to be that one of a unhealthy father-son! (Never forgetting me and my friend watching the G1 cartoon and him calling Starscream "Megatron shitty bird son thing"). And not to keep going but the crimes i would commit for Megatron's and Optimus friendship to actually be a sort of doomed found brothers sort of tragedy...

[@likeits1985]

Very creative how you think up these topics relating to Transformers.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Lio Convoy isn't a very good father to his son Lio Junior. Don't be like Lio Convoy this father's day.

[@rayvenkman2087]

He’d rather have a Discord where he’s yelling at a person that’s involved in a predator scandal-Oh, sorry. Wrong Lio Convoy.

[@samurexatlas7373]

1:50 Oh My MAGNUS

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@user-xf2my3hq8x Primus doesn't exist in Animated, or at least I believe Derrick kept him from canon

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@user-xf2my3hq8x The god, Cybertron the planet IS in Animated, just not alive.

[@Captain_Timezone]

20:07 nemesis prime

[@masterfarr8265]

Professor Sumdac was great.

[@paulramos1530]

Where's DEATHSAURUS? Victory Manga version

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

Weirdest bot to end up being a dad to me will always be Sixshot

[@moltenamber85]

No mention of Denny Clay from RID15? Why was he left off the list?

[@8ball180]

He's often forgotten unfortunately

[@p.g89]

Doesn't IDW2.0's mentor idea count ? Its practically the same thing.

[@bendyandtheyoutubechannel4372]

surprised that you didn't mention probably no definitely the worst father in transformers media a.k.a Dr. Jones

[@theprimo100]

Honourable mention to Skuxxoid.

[@Alex876]

reminds me of ginrai in omni dub being named optimus prime

[@ProwlatronPG]

I see Sumdac.. I click.

[@yamilhiram9697]

20:17 optimus crime

[@BatFan1]

no mention of the dad in the movies?

[@d1g1n0th1ng]

no mames....., arrestaron a Optimus Prime......!!!!! solo falta que lo libere Hot Rod y así se convierte en Rodimus Prime.....!!! xD

[@masterfarr8265]

Screw Dr Jones and the rest of the Jones family from energon.

[@zboltx305]

22 seconds ago? Damn