TL;DR - Age Differences in Korea

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This week's TLDR tackles the issue of the differences in age in Korea, the different ways you should address people of different ages, and the different ways you should act as well. Including some of our mistakes (particularly those involving alcohol), and the question of whether it is possible to ever be friends with someone of a different age.
Thanks to B1A4 Chile for the Spanish subs! Woot!
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@hiiiimymelody
@hiiiimymelody 9 жыл бұрын
Simon's shirt is amazing.
@ashleycasey2093
@ashleycasey2093 9 жыл бұрын
thought the same thing!
@kait5204
@kait5204 9 жыл бұрын
So... I kinda started to freak out when she started mentioning Boys Over Flowers... **regrets nothing**
@tasha1555
@tasha1555 9 жыл бұрын
Same
@kait5204
@kait5204 9 жыл бұрын
Teggest Teka Nice icon LOL
@MerlinVSharrypotter
@MerlinVSharrypotter 8 жыл бұрын
Luna !
@lavahead146
@lavahead146 8 жыл бұрын
Simon's shirt is foreshadowing him accidentally shaving some of his beard off!!
@tedlancaster9233
@tedlancaster9233 8 жыл бұрын
Koreans were impressed with my drinking capabilities I felt so special
@MilieNopeNotHere
@MilieNopeNotHere 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'd get in trouble if I lived in Korea. My personal belief is that wisdom (hard work), kindness and talent is what earns you respect, not age. I know many adults who are complete idiots, why would I wanna respect them? Just because you're older doesn't mean you're better, or just because you're younger doesn't mean I'm better. I just hate being restricted, which is not to say I don't have manners, but covering my mouth when I drink or making sure that my glass is in the right position? It just feels very unnecessary. I know it's all culture and tradition, but I'd just feel uncomfortable with all that. And stressed out about having to respect people I might despise.
@MilieNopeNotHere
@MilieNopeNotHere 8 жыл бұрын
***** I wanna go there too and experience the culture, but I don't think I could live there. The culture is too different from here. I'd go insane. Just the idea that ''he's older than me and told me to do this so I have to'' is awful to me. Also the fact that boobs are a nono but short skirts are ok, the homophobia, the sexism. I can respect the culture (although I will never respect homophobia or sexism), but I don't think it could ever become part of my daily life.
@m1sh474
@m1sh474 8 жыл бұрын
+Emilie F I believe that too but also you need to see how bad westerns treat their elderly most of the time so is like 2 extreme ways.
@MilieNopeNotHere
@MilieNopeNotHere 8 жыл бұрын
+Misha HJ there's a difference between elderly and elders. I think westerners just treat the people who deserve it with respect. If you are talking elderly as in "old people" I don't think we treat them worse than Koreans? I think the main difference is that Koreans seem more dependent on their parents and grandparents where westerners try to become independent fast.
@m1sh474
@m1sh474 8 жыл бұрын
Emilie F come on, don't fool yourself. Most western countries, mine included, treat elders like trash. Dumping them into hospitals and special houses.
@sephkurai
@sephkurai 8 жыл бұрын
+Misha HJ They do that in Korea too. And obviously you've never had to watch over an elder with dementia. It's a 24/7/365 job. I had to stop my great grandfather from getting in the car and driving almost every day and at any hour because he can't see or use his legs and doesn't have a license but he forgets all that and tries to drive to the store. He'll kill people and himself if he didn't have someone watching him every waking second. That means no job, no social life and you can't even leave the house to go to the store yourself because they can't be alone. When destroying your own life to watch an elder is respect, then the world is a terrible place. That's just one of the many examples of how difficult it is. He throws temper tantrums because of strange fantasies and dreams he has that never happened. Hide the keys from him? He'll yell and get in your face until you give them back. He'll bang on your door at 3am and tell you the house is burning down when it's not. He'll accuse you of ridiculous things like stealing and adultery. Every day. every hour. every minute.
@all-that-glitters9367
@all-that-glitters9367 10 жыл бұрын
If you meet someone younger than you but older than you in a business sense depending on the person you'll call them sunbae at work and hoobae outside work or call them sunbae no matter what. I only know this because my Korean friend works at the same place as me and she calls me sunbae at work even though she's three years older than I am. Outside of work though were more friendly so I call her unnie.
@brigomez2895
@brigomez2895 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for mentioning that. I was curious about that.
@elisabethgrace117
@elisabethgrace117 9 жыл бұрын
So...Basically I'll never be friends with my idols who are all like 10 years older than me. lmfao
@khai1732
@khai1732 9 жыл бұрын
Aye there is always "seventeen" they are pretty young depending on ur age lol
@elisabethgrace117
@elisabethgrace117 9 жыл бұрын
Mikayla Bledsoe That's true! lol. I think I'm actually older than a few of them.
8 жыл бұрын
+Ashley Casey Martina did not originate South Korean culture. Don't shoot the messenger!
@chris-iw8cz
@chris-iw8cz 8 жыл бұрын
+BenjaminFranklin99 Lol I'm pretty sure she was talking about the mustache
@idraote
@idraote 8 жыл бұрын
It's so difficult already finding good friends (I mean true friends, not acquaintances), if one has to limit oneself to the people born the exact same year...
@SmartYouTubification
@SmartYouTubification 9 жыл бұрын
Oh man, back when Simon and Martina had obnoxiously loud music in their videos instead of at a background murmur.
@stefsstuff2161
@stefsstuff2161 10 жыл бұрын
Hope as times get more modern the age-respect thing relaxes a bit because you can miss out on meeting some really great people. Most of my friends are not even my age so it would really be hard to be social with rules like that.
@aikataichyo
@aikataichyo 10 жыл бұрын
exactly! I live in Japan and we have those similar honorific social rules too, but it died down as time passed (but it's still going). I'm the only person who's in the 20s in my beauty class & the rest are either straight out of high school or 30s. So when me & the 30yr old guy introduced ourselves, we told everybody to call us by our first name/nickname.
@Phobos2085
@Phobos2085 9 жыл бұрын
Well this wasnt intimidating in the slightest. I think I'll just go play in the sandbox and make sandcastles now.
@ElizabethhLouisee
@ElizabethhLouisee 10 жыл бұрын
What about age difference in relationships in Korea? I really want to know this...
@rion4590
@rion4590 6 жыл бұрын
SAMEEE
@dmays67
@dmays67 9 жыл бұрын
Omfg was that a Flight of the Concord reference! My love for you both increases 💝💗💖 Wellington, NZ represent! Lol
@chiwowalyssa
@chiwowalyssa 12 жыл бұрын
my best friend is korean but she's one year younger than me. i always wondered why she was so uptight about being respectful to me even when i told her to let loose! now i learned something new. thanks simon and martina!
@estevanss5
@estevanss5 9 жыл бұрын
The music in this video is too loud!! i cannot understand you guys!!!
@MrKnucklez1000
@MrKnucklez1000 11 жыл бұрын
This was the first video i saw of simon and martina, needless to say i was hooked.
@girly0912
@girly0912 11 жыл бұрын
when drinking with an elder, do you have to turn every time you take a sip or is it just the first sip that you have to turn away?
@girly0912
@girly0912 10 жыл бұрын
Darkie999 okay, every shot you take, do you have to turn away?
@QxBoNG
@QxBoNG 10 жыл бұрын
heather natalie yes you do for every shot until they say it's okay. I drank with some older guys and they jsut get real traditional on the first shot, then he said, its no fun when you keep doing it but as long as we got it out of the way...but yes, you do it until they say otherwise or else it's VERY rude.
@Raphanne
@Raphanne 10 жыл бұрын
Q Bong Lee Sorry to intrude in this four months old conversation, but do you know if you also have to turn away if it's with someone just one year older than you? Or just with someone important like your boss? And also, should I drink the whole drink in one shot, or just a bit and finish it later?
@elilee3328
@elilee3328 10 жыл бұрын
and receive the drink with 2 hands
@MsSkou5
@MsSkou5 11 жыл бұрын
This video was helpful! I am only half a year older than my korean-american best friend, and when I met her korean grandparents who grew up in korea, they told me to take good care of her, as if I was a ton older!
@HereIsHelena
@HereIsHelena 10 жыл бұрын
I'm still confused about something. How do you interact with people who are younger than you but senior in whatever the work (or other) environment is? I'm not sure how much this can happen in a traditional work environment but clearly it happens all the time in the idol world...
@1234kingconan
@1234kingconan 10 жыл бұрын
This is a good question for America too. I had this situation recently. I think if you are at work and they are senior to you, you have to treat them with the respect of any senior even if they are your junior technically in years. That doesn't mean you need to grovel or act in an undignified way though. How they treat their unusual seniority thereafter is their own choice and you won't be on the line since you did the right thing. :)
@zebra1665
@zebra1665 8 жыл бұрын
My favorite phase of Simon
@TheMadameHannah
@TheMadameHannah 9 жыл бұрын
Is seonbae like senpai?
@littlemissmello
@littlemissmello 9 жыл бұрын
TheMadameHannah sort of yes, definitely!
@littlemissmello
@littlemissmello 9 жыл бұрын
***** oppa is nothing like sunbae actually
@samyukgu369
@samyukgu369 9 жыл бұрын
TheMadameHannah same chiness word...different pronounce...
@krystaescudero4671
@krystaescudero4671 8 жыл бұрын
+TheMadameHannah I would compare sunbae (korean) and senpai (japanese) to senior in english. But remember that when comparing language/culture, nothing is going to be exact. :)
@CookieDevillicious
@CookieDevillicious 9 жыл бұрын
Love Martina's look in this video
@anoziraflaminghot
@anoziraflaminghot 9 жыл бұрын
i know it's been said before, but it's still an issue, i have trouble hearing what you guys are saying because the background music is a little too loud. i try turning the volume up so i can hear better but the music just gets louder too :/
@multifandomarmyandexo-l2871
@multifandomarmyandexo-l2871 9 жыл бұрын
There is CC
@SkyDustCry
@SkyDustCry 12 жыл бұрын
Haha I have to say that this is one of my favorite videos that you guys have made. Not only did it clear up the confusion I had between seonbae and hubae, but I loved the informational video. Boy over Flowers. lol.
@essennagerry
@essennagerry 7 жыл бұрын
5:20 wow, here in Bulgaria we have to cheers and look into the person's eyes when we do so - so whoever's glass is making a *ding with yours - you have to look into their eyes. My grandpa was SO strict on that.
@duchessedeberne3909
@duchessedeberne3909 7 жыл бұрын
essennagerry the same for Switzerland. Not making eye contact is considered rude.
@lev1anus
@lev1anus 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly like in Brazil. Turning your face and dont making eye contact is weird and rude.
@TheCuriousGirl01
@TheCuriousGirl01 12 жыл бұрын
3:31-3:38 is THE BEST part in the entire video. LOVE Simon's "I like her."
@navataru
@navataru 10 жыл бұрын
Hello, I was talking among friends about visiting South Korea and among my group my Indian friend posed this question so the whole group is genuinely curious about what Korean people's views are on Indians and Arabic People? So Muslims, Sikhs, Hindu's...etc... I am curious do you think you guys could ask your Korean friends and peers on their feedback I am genuinely curious about how they view Indians... given their tanned skin I know that's a general negative point but what about other stuff like Facial hair, Turbans, their religious views... etc... THANK YOU!
@chaeyounglim9501
@chaeyounglim9501 9 жыл бұрын
hallo. ich bin koreanerin (nicht halb oder koreanische deutscherin). vor der erklärung soll ich es sagen, dass meine meinung von der meinung anderer leute anders sein könnte. normallerweise(sorry of this word) haben sie ein bisschen negative meinung davon wegen der einige vorurteile über arabische kultur z.b: arabische männer sind zu konservativ und haben viele frauen. manche männer handeln ihre frauen böse(schlagen und beschimpfen) nicht so positive...
@Eulumiii
@Eulumiii 9 жыл бұрын
They love the turks
@amyrich2008
@amyrich2008 13 жыл бұрын
@Aubsies they're used to doing it in public probably turning away simply means "showing respect" not necessarily to an older person, but to just anyone. they were showing respect to ur family/house because they were invited
@Takemysenf
@Takemysenf 9 жыл бұрын
no matter how I look at this - it just seems bothersome. I really like cultural diversity and all, but I am not a big fan of forced social hierarchy which basically does nothing else but seperate people. I know this derives from Konfuzius and all, but Koreans are going way overboard with this
@eda5936
@eda5936 12 жыл бұрын
watch lots of dramas, or variety shows especially. they'll help you become more familiar, it's always more fun to learn it that way, than by memorizing endings.
@anulkaaw
@anulkaaw 8 жыл бұрын
"My name is mo mo mo"? That's so Korean, Martina! ;)
@ChristinaAndJuli
@ChristinaAndJuli 11 жыл бұрын
OMG THE DISCRIPTIONS FROM MARTINA WAS HILARIOUS!
@cocoacoolness
@cocoacoolness 7 жыл бұрын
What about age differences in relationships? Where I live if a girl is older than her boyfriend it's often viewed as a bit strange (depending on the age gap) but this doesn't seem to be the case in korea?
@danielasylvester
@danielasylvester 12 жыл бұрын
This was a very good and informative video. It definitely cleared some things for me that I didnt understand from kdramas, like the drinking part and the different names. Thanks guys!
@lovablecharacter8167
@lovablecharacter8167 9 жыл бұрын
I guess if my friends and I ever went to Korea, they would think that I am super disrespectful because I am 25, one is 26 and 2 are 29. We joke around with each other and call each other names (out of love) and the things I say to them would be totally disrespectful in Korea. Lol they'll probably find our relationship weird.
@Ken-kn7eq
@Ken-kn7eq 9 жыл бұрын
You don't have to use honorifics if you're really close to your friends
@desiko16
@desiko16 8 жыл бұрын
That situation with an old man sitting behind you is forever stuck in my head! I'm reminded of it almost everytime I see sb drinking and turning away in a drama. :D
@gabrielaed6407
@gabrielaed6407 10 жыл бұрын
What if the person with a higher position is younger?
@chunwilliam9061
@chunwilliam9061 10 жыл бұрын
you would respect them in front of other people but you would be cursing that higher person when you are alone:)
@h3modynamic
@h3modynamic 12 жыл бұрын
u two are sooooooo made for each other. love u guys
@QuietStorm26
@QuietStorm26 10 жыл бұрын
so many rules
@eda5936
@eda5936 12 жыл бұрын
ahh took me ages to learn them... trust me dramas and variety shows help with those. -shi, is used after names, especially when youre introducing someone formally. -goon, is like that too, except it only applies to guys (i.e. minho-goon). -yang is also like the previous two, except it's used for girls (i.e. minyoung-yang)
@chloecarr3263
@chloecarr3263 10 жыл бұрын
Agghhh yet another boys over flowers reference ughhhumergerd xx
@eda5936
@eda5936 12 жыл бұрын
well again, seonbae is a term for like a school senior. ive seen people still call their husband 'oppa' but as they get older, they all seem to slide into terms like 'jagi' or 'dear' as in 'please get the door, dear..'
@rall860331
@rall860331 9 жыл бұрын
Notice me Oppa!
@samyukgu369
@samyukgu369 9 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Llamas younger female call to older male
@rall860331
@rall860331 9 жыл бұрын
Oppa, you finally noticed me! :D
@sunaleexo
@sunaleexo 9 жыл бұрын
+Ricardo Llamas NOTICE ME SENPAI
@maromarkopoulou3400
@maromarkopoulou3400 8 жыл бұрын
+Sunalee is that jimin
@sunaleexo
@sunaleexo 8 жыл бұрын
Maro M. Indeed !
@nATHIE48
@nATHIE48 12 жыл бұрын
oh thank you simon and martina I wanted to understand this better.
@flayuhat
@flayuhat 11 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS BACKGROUND MUSIC I really want it on my iPod and it's been stuck in my head for awhile now XD
@KiwiCutieX
@KiwiCutieX 12 жыл бұрын
OKay, the fact that you guys watch AND quote Flight of the Conchords raises my respect for you by A LOT ^^
@jema2609
@jema2609 12 жыл бұрын
@veggievegetarian - I can appreciate that! I work with children, and have always introduced myself as Ms. Jacqui. That's what I expect to be called. One of my families allowed their kids to call Jacqui. No Ms., no other courtesy. Now my other family calls me Ms. Jacqui in front of the children, modelling the expected behavior. Guess which one's my favorite?
@MidnightRaven66
@MidnightRaven66 11 жыл бұрын
I know right, I bought it off amazon last week and I got it on tuesday, whenit came in the mail I was so figgin happy.
@CarlGorn
@CarlGorn 11 жыл бұрын
They actually dealt with this in the Kdrama "Pasta." The real owner, played by Alex of Clazziquai(good band, that), actually hired an ajeossi sonbae of his to pose as the owner, because he was younger than any of the head chefs he wanted to hire and younger than the sous chefs, too. That's the length some people will go to in order to respect this tradition.
@xXDarkMoonSodiumXx
@xXDarkMoonSodiumXx 11 жыл бұрын
Simon's shirt is awesome.
@ianpolitano07
@ianpolitano07 13 жыл бұрын
I would agree with everything they've said in this video. I've learned the same things from my Korean roommates as well as friends, who studied abroad at my University. Although since my roommates and I were at most 3-4 years apart, after a while, they told me to not turn my body when I drank. They wanted me to drink comfortably with them, but in the beginning they, well never forced me, but since they knew I was interested in the culture they would remind me.
@mathiniv
@mathiniv 8 жыл бұрын
YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!!!!!! OK, now that I got that out, I'll move on to my comment. I didn't know that Koreans had honorary names as well! I grew up in India and we had them too. But mostly for siblings, relatives, and family friends. Not so much for seniors in school and so on. This video was very interesting! I've loved all your videos so far and am going to be very very sad when I go through the entire library. What will I do between uploads?!
@tokee1234567
@tokee1234567 13 жыл бұрын
@blingblingshineshine say... whether society demands or not, in Korea one must not only consider themselves but also how they are viewed to the others. it's just how it works. what you consider and such only works if you're close to them. if you're just meeting that person that day or something and will not form an actual relationship with that person, then just treat them respectfully. that's all I can say
@Eri1982ca
@Eri1982ca 12 жыл бұрын
Its really hard to hear what guys say at time cause the music being louder than you guys. It drives me mad when I miss something important that you say. So have to rewind all the time. Other than that I have been watching your videos for a few days and I'm so hooked.
@elly_angelic
@elly_angelic 9 жыл бұрын
I have questions related to this topic~ -How do you know when you can call people "oppa" or "eonni"? Do they have to tell you that you can call them that? -Also, you wouldn't call your teacher "oppa" or "eonni" would you? like if you're a kid/teenager, how do you refer to adults? -Also what about "ms." or "mrs." or "miss" or "mr" ? (like -sshi and -goon or whatever) -And when do you use "ajusshi" (and /or "ajhumma")? -What does "sunbaenim" mean? Is that a special kind of way to say "seonbae"? -And etc etc... (that's all I can think of right now, but I may have more)
@Wei_Radula_Regiment
@Wei_Radula_Regiment 9 жыл бұрын
You can ask if you may call people these sibling honorifics, but the more socially acceptable thing to do is wait for them to offer because it signifies closeness through a lower level of respect, so the junior should not initiate this. A student should definitely not call a teacher one of the sibling honorifics; the word for "teacher" is much more revered and applied to non-teachers who have a position that is respected. The only exceptions I've seen are when it's non-formal anyway, like a star addressing a much older fan who would like to be thought of as young enough for a sibling honorific to be used. Sunbaenim is a more polite way to say sunbae (sunbae and seonbae are different romanizations of the same Hangul) and the "nim" just means you're showing more respect. I'm sorry I can't answer how youths should refer to adults, mr./mrs. specifics, or ahjusshi and ahjumma. All I know is that most people don't think of flattering things when they hear "ahjumma" (they usually think of women who are old, loud, stingy, and rude), so most women hate being called ahjumma, even if they fit the textbook description.
@eda5936
@eda5936 12 жыл бұрын
dongsaeng is a term one can use for someone who is younger than you, whether it be your actual younger sibling or someone else outside your family
@EnigmaticPhilosophy
@EnigmaticPhilosophy 11 жыл бұрын
Respect is not synonymous with basic courtesy. And tbh, way too many people do not understand that simple fact. It's entirely possible to be courteous & polite to another person, and still have no actual respect for them. The truth is that genuine respect has to be *earned* - it is not a given. And simply living a long life does not entitle you to anything - what matters is what you have done with that life and the content/quality of your character.
@eda5936
@eda5936 11 жыл бұрын
and here's another one -yang is like the opposite of -goon. it's used when addressing girls, but usually by a person who is older like 20+ yrs, and it's more of a thing they use for official things or on tv and such.we don't really use it in everyday life
@bgates275
@bgates275 9 жыл бұрын
When I was teaching there, I got in trouble for giving my attendance sheet to the vice principal with only one hand. I was later told by my coworker, that the respectful way to do it was with two hands. It wasn't a big deal to me, and from that point onwards I always did it with two.
@booyaboo_83
@booyaboo_83 11 жыл бұрын
The moment we are born, we are considered as 1 year old. Also, we don't consider our birthdays as a day we age. We add 1 year to our age on the new year day. So, the difference between American age and Korean age can be a year(if the birthday has past), or it can be two years(if the birthday has yet to come). Hope it helped!
@fashionfashionguru
@fashionfashionguru 12 жыл бұрын
seriously so glad i found this channel. i am korean and i am learning from you guys lol
@Maryphosaa
@Maryphosaa 12 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankfull you're doing this I've learned so much about culture and stuff ^_^ it's nice to know :D
@eda5936
@eda5936 12 жыл бұрын
well imagine it in differently. imagine you were in a subway in korea, and a person came up to you and said "you're really pretty." depending on the type of person you are, you either say thank you, or look them up and down and turn your back on them. i think this was a problem of personality rather than culture..
@eda5936
@eda5936 12 жыл бұрын
it's actually not as lonely as it might seem to foreigners who are trying to memorize all this. it's like english grammar to americans. it can be so illusive to foreigners who are trying to learn it because there are so many rules and exceptions, but for people whove grown up using it theyre whole life, it's no big deal, because they know it by ear.
@gwacie98
@gwacie98 12 жыл бұрын
Ahjusshi and Ahjumma mean more of middle-aged. A good reference is if the person is as old as your parents go with ahjusshi/ahjumma, if they're more the age of your grandparents then go with haraboji/halmoni.
@4EVERSMAC
@4EVERSMAC 12 жыл бұрын
The rule of Three, right? First, Martina held the coffee with two hands, second, Martina poured the bottle into the principal's glass first and third, Martina drank out of the shot glass in front of him instead of everyone else away from the principal.
@eda5936
@eda5936 11 жыл бұрын
it wouldn't be considered rude, especially the longer you get to know the person. believe it or not, many koreans feel that way and tend to be on first name basis as opposed to the whole honorific thing with people who are younger, although it is less common.
@Oceansky0616
@Oceansky0616 12 жыл бұрын
When they are the same age, means born at the same year( not nessearily born at the same month or day ), they can be just friends not unnie or hyung etc but just call their names but only when they are close enough. When they are not close enough, they call each others '[name] SSI' like Hyuna SSI, HyunJung SSI .
@anjelkrush89
@anjelkrush89 12 жыл бұрын
although it is true that there are certain barriers between older and younger associates, i love the relationships i have with my oppadeul because there's also a sense of protection and adoration that i feel from them, when they take on that title. but it can get frustrating because i'm frequently branded sagaji upsuh.
@eda5936
@eda5936 12 жыл бұрын
it totally depends on the person. you should ask your friend what she wants you to call her. because what you call each other usually depends on the older person. two girls with a 2 month difference can be unni-dongsaeng, but a different pair of girls with a 2 month difference can just be friends. it's not as strict as everyone's making it seem,
@madyisonstandby
@madyisonstandby 12 жыл бұрын
HAI :) if someone's a few months older than you/born in your year that means you're 친구 (chingu) which literally means friends. so you can talk informally to them and you don't have to call them oppa or unni if you want, depends how close you are! but this rule starts to fade if someone is like a year older, if you're older than someone and they are more experienced they would be your sunbae-nim so instead of calling them like "hyung-nim" you would call them their name then put "nim" on the end
@og13jumpman
@og13jumpman 12 жыл бұрын
I just had an experience that has to do with this. I have a penpal, we're both 18, but when she found out I'm from 1993 she totally freaked out. I calmed her down, but boy is age difference something very important in Korea.
@LibraAlfa
@LibraAlfa 11 жыл бұрын
I live in Romania an we experienced 23 years of democracy that was misunderstood by most of the people and that lead to excessive freedom and lack of respect! That's why I admire Koreans so much, they respect their elders, they have a limit in everything (that I strongly believe is a positive thing), it's the kind of society I would like to live in! Trust me, you should be thankful you have the chance to be a part of it!
@bltsdsubbie
@bltsdsubbie 12 жыл бұрын
THIS VIDEO. Inspired me to start watching Boys Over Flowers. I think it's safe to say this is one of the best decisions I've ever made.
@jujuvonpinega
@jujuvonpinega 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! This was once again a very informative and funny video. Martina looked especially cute and beautiful in it^^
@TheVigilette
@TheVigilette 12 жыл бұрын
@TheWooHooism it's still sunbae. literally it means "older teacher," or something along those lines, but its different in context as well. and they wont be angry if you call them sunbae. it shows you're still trying to be respectful. even if you should say something else they'll still appreciate that you were respectful, and usually after a while will tell you to call them something different. but just go with sunbae. its safe, and they won't get angry or ignore you. :)))
@Hydayach
@Hydayach 11 жыл бұрын
actually, its not only in korea. mostly, asian countries has 'nickname' for ppl who older than them. kinda like unni, noona, hyung and oppa. but different for every country, but it has same meaning. we show our respectable act to the older ppl with it.
@sososorri
@sososorri 12 жыл бұрын
its culture. and honestly its not uncomfortable at all to do. i mean if you dont like them. you just dont hang out with the older person. naturally you will hang out with people you like. and the respect just comes naturally. its not respect for who they are. but where they are in life. i do it too. sure there are people i dont like. but if anything it has taught me tolerance.
@BystanderGirl
@BystanderGirl 13 жыл бұрын
That's true. There are so many things you have to do for manners. I'm Korean but now I'm living in australia. Its so much easier here.
@eVeRyTiFuL
@eVeRyTiFuL 13 жыл бұрын
i actually sorta remember that once i was friends with this 언니 who was really nice at my church camping. The good thing about this is that i was being respectful and didn't get a punch on my face :D. A bad thing is that i kept forgetting her name, since i never use it :D, so i didn't call her 언니 with a name , i just called her 언니.
@gwacie98
@gwacie98 12 жыл бұрын
Certain things are a little old-fashioned sure, but in Korea there is definitely a lot less mouthing off and being rude, since you're raised to be respectful.
@eda5936
@eda5936 11 жыл бұрын
yes. you're one when you're born and every new years day you gain another year. so if you're born on december 20, by january 3, you'd already be 2 years old
@keesalemon
@keesalemon 12 жыл бұрын
Makes so much more sense. Thank you!!
@eda5936
@eda5936 11 жыл бұрын
i couldn't agree more. i may be korean but that doesn't mean i agree with all the traditions. but something you'll discover if you visit the country is that change is not going to be possible, and if it is, then only VERY SLOW change. it's just that the system is so integrated into society that no one thinks twice about it. it's also why i plan to never move back there, even though social hierarchy is just one of the many contributing factors:P
@shilladorable
@shilladorable 11 жыл бұрын
I went to Korea once.And I wasn't really happy about their manner.on my first day of the trip,I was on Seoul Metro,then an elder asked me something in Korean and I told him that I don't speak Korean in a very respectful manner that I've never even done to my own parents.But then he scolds me in Korean and pointed my face.I just said sorry and bowed my head.And whenever I asked anyone in english, elders or youngsters, they just passed through me as if they didn't hear a thing. is it common there?
@eda5936
@eda5936 11 жыл бұрын
they will understand if you're foreigner. make lots of mistakes, they really won't care as much as everyone is making it seem like and it's not exactly that they get offended if you don't take your shoes off. its just that thats that that's what everyone does (i've always just thought that it was more a cleanliness issue than anything else) you learn to adjust, just go with the flow and learn as you go
@tokee1234567
@tokee1234567 13 жыл бұрын
@blingblingshineshine yes. if you're close then you and that person will talk how the other wants to be called, but usually honorific titles like "onni, oppa" are still used (but you can say Name + onni, etc.. and the older can say the younger's name without any suffixes attached.) so basically it's just the polite speech that's dropped.
@forestlily96
@forestlily96 12 жыл бұрын
I know this is out of topic but I just love Simon's shirts!They're so cute! :DD
@Immakingasandwich
@Immakingasandwich 12 жыл бұрын
The curly hair detail was very interesting!! hahaha :D Anyway, really good question an really good answer, BRAVO!
@EdwardoLover
@EdwardoLover 10 жыл бұрын
Love that Flight of the Conchords ref.:)
@gabyvillanueva25
@gabyvillanueva25 10 жыл бұрын
im so glad that im learning so much of this culture, because my sister always asked why Koreans do this, or they do that, and i seem to have a good explanation, Thanks Ea Your Kimchi you make me seem smart :D
@oneD4576love
@oneD4576love 11 жыл бұрын
I understand how you feel. But I feel, if it's a close friend you feel like your close enough to call by their name. But if it's like your older family member, boss, neighbor, something like that, they deserve respect. It's just manners. And I know some people might be very disrespected, if you don't use it.
@GenieOfBeast
@GenieOfBeast 12 жыл бұрын
Idk I really like the boundaries. Anyway I did notice that I always thought that soju must be really light but when I found out it was pretty strong I was mindblown- I mean those dudes can handle A LOT!
@eda5936
@eda5936 11 жыл бұрын
Korean age: you are born already one year old. every new year's day you gain another year. so if you were born on decembr20th, by january 3 you'd already be two years old. the suffix 'nim' can be thought of as an ending you attach to someone you respect, especially if you aren't that close. "sunbae" means "senior" like a school-senior who's in a grade higher, or maybe someone at work whose been there longer. example: 'minho sunbae-nim' would be more formal than 'minho sunbae'
@SpringOfYuki
@SpringOfYuki 12 жыл бұрын
I dont think the expected formality to elders are barriers to being comfortable BFFs. Friends should have respect for each other and this drinking etiquette is more of a formalized way to show respect.
@junghashin3582
@junghashin3582 11 жыл бұрын
Wow I am Korean. and this video is very perceptive, so that I can't believe foreigners made it. I'm really impressd
@hhg0104
@hhg0104 11 жыл бұрын
Actually in that case you mentioned, the position is the more priority. But they also need to respect the older person, even if he is at the lower position than you. As a result, they try to respect each other at the some point level...... Complicate one,
@unit613
@unit613 11 жыл бұрын
Best. Doctor. Ever.
@dwa0thaigirl0pimmy
@dwa0thaigirl0pimmy 12 жыл бұрын
im always checking up martinas make up and hairstyles....EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! It's so pretty. She should do some styling vids in >Playlist mOOOOOOOOOd< hahaha....love them
@BlueSolify
@BlueSolify 11 жыл бұрын
@Catherine Pham no he calls her by her name becuase she is younger. but she has to call him Oppa or Sunbae since he is older and she has to respect him
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