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The Trans-Pacific Partnership is a trade grouping of 11 nations all of whom are based around the Pacific Ocean (as the name suggests). Their new prospective member, Britain, seems undeterred by geography & is looking to join the club. In this video we explain what the TPP is and its history before discussing why Britain wants to join.
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[@james-1110]

Same vibes as Australia in the Eurovision

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

I think Australia should join the EU then, with our huge amount of natural resources we'd have highly complimentary economies.

[@SuperJibulus]

Australia doesn’t have land or borders in Europe. The U.K. does in the Pacific, so it’s slightly better vibes for the U.K.

[@SigmaSalt]

@@SuperJibulus Australia has land borders with both Norway and France.

[@dimtiartachev1573]

@@SuperJibulus how much as Square metres from england are in the pacific and how much of the factories and people are living there :D

[@SuperJibulus]

@@SigmaSalt in Europe?

[@matejlieskovsky9625]

UK declared independence from the constraints of geography

[@thewingedhussar4188]

lol They want to not have the sun set on their empire again. ROFL Problem, empire no longer around.

[@maxpowerii7368]

@@thewingedhussar4188 no one in the UK even cares about the empire anymore. Your embarrassing yourself trying to give off the vibe you have one iota of understanding about the UK.

[@bertrandmarion1927]

@@maxpowerii7368 considering 4 years of brexiter constantly claiming their empire back every two minutes 24/7 Make me think the opposite And you seems to be the one changing the reality to fit your idea in it

[@arleygomez465]

Do you realise not all economic sectors are constrained by geography? The UK has a large service industry that would benefit.

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

@@maxpowerii7368 The empire mentality figured into Brexshit delusional mentality so there comment is reasonable.

[@dominicthorpe2300]

TLDR: Britain is not a pacific nation The Pitcairn Island: Am I a Joke to you?

[@Bluesfan1780]

Everyone: Yes

[@arleygomez465]

Whats your point? Do you think trade purely consists of manufactured goods shipped around the globe? Britain has a large finance and services industry that are not constrained by geography.

[@vinniechan]

Well the accession requires unanimous approval anyway If u do get everyone to agree u can write whatever clause into the agreement so being in Europe might not be a big deal

[@SuperJibulus]

The UK is a Pacific nation.

[@ymk8355]

UK and Britain are not interchangeable names. And anyway about 55 people live there. it is now up to TPP to see if this “handful” population can qualify the UK to move into the bloc.

[@soloroy6020]

Selling fish to Australia, sheep meat to NZ and our British Nissans to Japan. Great deal. Just wonderful. Exactly my sense of humor

[@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge]

🤣😂😂🤣🤣

[@iggyme4133]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@neil492]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@hoseadavit3422]

Oh I see the Irony

[@Arkturus88]

And Scottish Whisky to Malasia (Liz Truss said that), a predominantly Muslim country.

[@boldiegoldie]

Ah yes the uk the most famous *pacific* country

[@peterdunlop7691]

Well we did try and unify the world that one time to bring global peace. That made us pacific right?

[@lordcutlerbeckett58]

What about pacific overseas territories

[@arleygomez465]

Whats your point? Do you think trade purely consists of manufactured goods shipped around the globe? Britain has a large finance and services industry that are not constrained by geography.

[@frankkobold]

@@arleygomez465 and you think that the pacific countries with their own financial sector want a big player like London to join and dominating the market? Sry, but I don't see how this would work out, besides maybe if uk would be paying for the membership without influence on the rules.

[@calumbishop7082]

@@lordcutlerbeckett58 The only Pacific Territory we have is the Pitcairn Islands home to exactly 43 people, as well as uninhabited territory of a bit of the Antarctic coast. Hell France is more Pacific than the UK since their Pacific Territories equate to roughly half a million people.

[@mandategaming]

Britain 2069:We are having another Brexit so get ready for hell TLDR Bruh the people in the comments.....

[@HShango]

to leave TPP

[@mandategaming]

Yea

[@maxpowerii7368]

Funny how you conveniently miss that segments of the British population opposed joining and remaining part of the EU from the very start. They were never given a proper say on it hence the 2016 Brexit referendum.

[@arleygomez465]

Why would there be a 'Brexit' from a trading bloc? Do you not understand the difference between the EU and a mere trading bloc?

[@hobog]

on the 20th of April, for month-day-year format :P

[@marcusmeijerbom7658]

This line of thinking opens up brand new possibilities. Like inviting South Korea to the EU.

[@axelfiraxa]

The EurasianUnion :))

[@sociolocomtsac]

What a grand idea lol

[@MalloonTarka]

I mean, politically they'd more or less be a shoe-in. It's just geography (both distance and the needs of a country in North-East Asia vs. needs in Europe) that means it wouldn't make much sense. Which is probably exactly what you meant.

[@dean1039]

South Korea doesn't have any territory in Europe. Whereas Britain does have territory in the Pacific. If Britain ceded Gibraltar to South Korea, then South Korea could join the EU. See how it works now?

[@MrAapasuo]

@@dean1039 No, not really as Gibraltar would be miniscule part of SK with practicly no part in mainland government. Hell its opinion hardly mattered in brexit as it is

[@HDv2b]

I remember pre-referendum, friends arguing we should leave the EU because the EU was supposedly about to make a deal with the loathed, bad-for-NHS, TTP, and here we are.

[@georgesdelatour]

The TPP never actually came into existence, and the CPTPP only got off the ground in 2017, after the 2016 Referendum. So how could the EU have been negotiating a trade deal with either before the Referendum?

[@HDv2b]

@@georgesdelatour I just looked back at the conversation (still on my FB from pre-referendum), the deal in question was actually TTIP

[@andrewriley4735]

Would have been useful to have TIPP mentioned in the context, why it is different erg. TIPP provisions for business to be able to sue after strengthening labour rules seemed a big issue back in the day. Are they part of TTP-11 agreement?

[@Mngalahad]

Breaking news: UK decides to join the Organization of American States. "Americans decent from us so were basically the same type of stand".

[@natsgreatoldgamereviews6271]

We do own the Fauklands

[@beu9245]

@@natsgreatoldgamereviews6271 Are you fishing for Argentinians?

[@MrPrivmack]

@@beu9245 Next: UK applies to become an American colony! 😂😂😜😜

[@kamanashiskar9203]

What the hell do you mean?

[@ilFrancotti]

When China said that it was a "semi-Arctic" nation people were laughing.. now the UK is a Pacific nation.

[@DrewLong-ek1uh]

We technically own land in the pacific so we can be considered pacific

[@ilFrancotti]

@@DrewLong-ek1uh fair point but the economic reasons behind the choice to join a "Pacific agreement" are hardly visible. Unless the UK foresees to drop much of its trade with the EU in the next future.

[@zilosis3794]

@@ilFrancotti Canada, Mexico and the US also have atlantic borders.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@ilFrancotti it doesn’t but it also sees the value of trading with Asian markets and also gaining more influence in the regions. The uk isn’t a North America country yet it should join the usmca or meaningful trade deals with the region. You know why. Cause trade with anyone is good.

[@oliverqueen5883]

Maybe the UK can be Australia in Eurovision of this group

[@martinpaulaquilina1244]

We’re happy they’re there but no one votes for them 🤣

[@insertnamehere0247]

That’s a lie didnt australia nearly win it twice

[@CzornyLisek]

Tho Eurovision isn't European and never truly was it just happened to have word euro in it ; p Before it was called "International Broadcastings Union" but because Nazis used it they renamed to "European Broadcasting Union" while remaining international as "International Telecommunication Union" which is group of EBU associates.

[@squirepraggerstope3591]

We must hope that at least 'Pacificvision' is not so excruciatingly dire as Eurovision. And after all, at least the CPTPP is an infinitely more inviting prospect than the loathsome EU

[@springer3783]

@@squirepraggerstope3591 Well it’s a trading bloc , no anthem, no Parliament, president , no foreign ministry, things I find quite odd for a trading bloc to have ?

[@Vienna3080]

Finally the 50 people in the Pitcairn islands can have more trade

[@MrDavidJMa]

Comes as part of the NZ package so they don't feel left out and hated by Nuh Zild. It is of little consequence.

[@sodthelotayou3712]

Yes but you have to find it first

[@kamanashiskar9203]

Pitcairn Island can become an important trade city for the UK since the UK's starting to trade in the Asia/Indo-Pacific region.

[@angelsaavedra633]

@Just Vienna what anime is your profile picture is from?

[@lestersys]

Nah, I'm in Malaysia and we've heard nothing about the UK wanting to join the agreement. All the news is focused on that other big issue at the moment. 😅

[@MrDavidJMa]

Ahhhh.....found Joh Low yet and jailed your ex PM yet. Nope? Thought not. Won't happen of course......

[@verbalwound5874]

"I've not heard about the news, so it must not be real."

[@rocknroll4995]

@Heed The Ba' I think he actually meant that it is irrelevant for Malaysia rather than nonexistent

[@porcupineinapettingzoo]

@Heed The Ba' When did it happen?

[@jonny2900]

@Heed The Ba' yes but as pointed out in the Video the Pacific countries, especially the south esst asian countries dont do a lot of trade with britain

[@IamTheHolypumpkin]

When does Britain get the tugboats to tug the country into the pacific?

[@megaangelic]

It's already in the Pacific. And the Atlantic, and the Caribbean sea, and the Mediterranean, and the... Etc.

[@DaDunge]

@@megaangelic No, it's not, sure it's got colonies in those regions, but the vast majority of the land mass and the people of the UK is in the Eastern North Altantic.

[@dkoda840]

@@DaDunge UK: but it does have land there therefor TPP time.

[@SuperJibulus]

@@DaDunge The Pitcairn Islands’ soil’s Britishness is as British as that of London’s. I’d argue it is more British than Scotland at this point.

[@DaDunge]

@@dkoda840 I very much doubt that they will allow it. Many of these countries have fought very hard to keep Europeans out of the pacific.

[@timypp2894]

I'm guessing 10yrs down the line, the UK will be moaning about something about the CPTTP - when the UK can't gets it way.

[@edwardbernthal160]

@nicholas carter and who intervenes in trade disputes?

[@edwardbernthal160]

@nicholas carter If there is a trade dispute between Vietnam an NZ who will they go to to get the problem sorted?

[@edwardbernthal160]

@nicholas carter this is complicated reading but there must be some answers here for us. I will read it again when I am sober.Have a happy evening or morning if you are in the Southern ½ of the planet.

[@cristinatrincado7956]

Instead of France and Germany as partners, let's have Brunei and Malasia. Sounds like a good idea, yes!

[@AIArtworks45]

@Tdan Kendros If you like artificial islands, big guns and a new cold war, yes, the pacific and south est asia is the perfect place where to be for the next years. China is a great host XD

[@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501]

@Tdan Kendros Can you elaborate on that?

[@yohaneschristianp]

@Tdan Kendros And UK isn't? Germany is a lot better in tech than UK nowadays France... I don't know, UK and French, you guys are in quite similar fate

[@jamesmichaels4979]

Why not all? Oh thats right. The EU wouldn't allow it unless some muppet in Brussels can rule as a king.

[@Doso777]

@Tdan Kendros The UK is dying too .. so what?

[@carlavanda1585]

TLDR it would be interesting to check out a comparison in standards&regulations of both blocks EU and TPTT

[@leet.s9213]

That's a good shout

[@greifinn24]

would be weird leaving one block to avoid rules , then joining another to be ruled by!

[@leet.s9213]

@@greifinn24 rules will apply because of trading, also to protect their country interest

[@callume]

I think I might have seen standards have to be similar between countries, but they don't have to be identical like w the EU

[@tepesobrejac4360]

@@greifinn24 Well, the CTPP doesn't have a commission or a parliament or a customs union.

[@reiteration6273]

The UK be like: Hey, we used to own half the countries in this bloc, that makes us pacific, right?

[@megaangelic]

The UK still has Pacific Territories.

[@mikeblatzheim2797]

@@megaangelic So does France (bigger ones, in fact, with several times the population). But you won't be getting much trade from what's essentially a few villages spread across an ocean.

[@alejandroojeda1572]

Can't believe it, it's actually more than half. 🤣🤣🤣

[@aonary5382]

@@megaangelic the UK has 1 Pacific territory...and only about 50 people live there

[@mharris9655]

@@aonary5382 And that's all they need to get their foot in the door.

[@peterwilson5528]

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." Groucho Marx

[@Kafei01]

This makes a lot of sense since the UK is next to the Pacific Ocean.... After that, why not a partnership with the moon ?

[@swanky_yuropean7514]

Or mars. Better call Elon and make deals with our future Mars emperor early.

[@flannel2699]

I've already started saving my files to the Oort Cloud

[@peterebel7899]

Come on Pick up a corn of phantasy!

[@kordellswoffer1520]

You’re making yourself look like a clown.

[@jacobarcher1097]

What's funny is the TTPs goals are very similar to the EUs goals back when the EU was started. Looks like in 20 30 years we'll be brexiting again lol

[@cammysmith7562]

It’s really nothing like the EU. The block was set up for all our nations to end our reliance on China and increase trade between us. Nowhere in the Commonwealth paper on Australia joining does it state our goal is to create a single market so I have no idea where TLDR got that from.

[@RoyalTheRebel]

Want the point of brexit for many people that the eu was good when it started and it began to become sour when it became political though?

[@leandroschristides9410]

Back to the future

[@AIArtworks45]

@@cammysmith7562 Evem the EU wasn't the EU 40 years ago... You just have to wait. Maybe your union will be somewhat different, but the direction is that one. An it's natural, and there is nothing wrong with it. How do you think will you be able to compete and protect your interests against China? Only togheter.

[@cammysmith7562]

@@AIArtworks45 why would we form a politically union with a country like Vietnam that is a one party state. It’s really not a natural progression, NAFTA isn’t a political union it’s a trading block, and RCEP isn’t a political union despite both having a larger world market than the EU.

[@nicobernard]

Don't apologize for providing context, it always makes for a better understanding. Thanks for yet another interesting video !

[@Mesozoic_mammal]

Breaking: UK declares independence from reality

[@kamanashiskar9203]

Ships: Allow me to introduce myself...

[@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501]

No reality is better than a piss poor reality. Lol

[@Silvercloud-cg7gs]

How so?

[@nottmjas]

It's our decision so I don't give two hoots what the likes of you think.

[@joehodgson2815]

Wait, so we leave a trading bloc on our actual doorstep, and then join one that's literally on the other side of the planet?!?

[@HShango]

I said this a couple days ago, it doesn't make sense at all.

[@arleygomez465]

Oh please. It's really not comparable to compare EU membership with membership of CPTPP. One is a supranational entity and the other is more akin to intergovernmental agreements.

[@sirnigeloffarage9255]

yeah but it wont cost us Billions to be a part of and they wont tell us what to do..... win/win

[@SwissSareth]

Well, the TPP doesn't have a parliament, doesn't want an army, doesn't try to politically dominate a continent... Yeah, I can see why they would prefer the TPP over the EU.

[@MRAROCKERDUDE]

Geographic proximity is losing its significance, especially in the UK with its large and growing services sector. Where goods are digital and can be traded with Hong Kong at the same speed as France. Brexit allows us to have a trade pact with a family of growing nations (that’s where the opportunity lies and will continue to lie in the coming decades. Add to that the fact that since it would be a trade pact and not a political union, we can continue to open new trade agreements and join trade pacts with additional countries and territories. Thanks to Brexit, we can have the current FTA with the EU, we can join the pacific trade pact and we can keep adding to our list of FTAs

[@handbanana4899]

Same energy as a girl dumping her boyfriend and moving out of their flat, to go live with friends in another country until she can find her own place

[@sodthelotayou3712]

Only to find that no one else really wants to be in a relationship with her because she lies, cheats, is arrogant and thinks that she is exceptional.

[@edwardbernthal160]

so the UK will be entering a sort of rebound relationship, they rarely work.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

You know nothing.

[@emilchandran546]

I agree this agreement was designer for pacific nations and I’m not sure that the UK really fits in. But the comparisons to the EU I see in the comments are not accurate. I mean, it’s much more about trading of goods and services. No political union. There is nothing like the European Parliament, or courts or open borders or labour or anything of that sort.

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

Yes, it's capitalist globalism rather than democratic unionism.

[@annoloki]

Yes there is, it's called "investor rights", the courts are private, with private law, and only investors from other countries can use them... so foreign investors have more rights than domestic, and neither parliament nor domestic courts can challenge the rulings.

[@neodym5809]

Of course there are courts. How do you believe disputes are settled?

[@emilchandran546]

@@neodym5809 I meant there is no court like the European Court of Justice which has a much broader jurisdiction that the TPP’s ISDS. At least that is my understanding. My other points still stand about the degrees of cooperation between member states, how open the economies are and the borders are. I want to make it clear that I am not in favour of the TPP. I mean these replies make it sound like I’m advocating for it. I’m just saying it’s an entirely different beast to the EU. Not like by entering the TPP the UK would be in the same situation. Obviously, a lot of the criticism of the EU was the uncontrolled migration, the foreign labour etc. But I agree, if the idea of Brexit was to reclaim sovereignty then this runs counter to that objective. Any prospective member country would be giving a great deal of theirs away, at least in terms of trade regulations. As an Australian, it isn’t covered a whole lot in the media, but there is concern out there about essentially a huge framework that hands regulations over to multi-nationals. So I’m definitely not endorsing the TPP or anything.

[@neodym5809]

@@emilchandran546 I have read your statement with interest and agree mostly with your position. As you are Australian, I want to clarify one point: there was NEVER uncontrolled immigration from the EU to the UK. First, the UK never joined Schengen, therefor passport checks were in place. Second, under EU law, immigration of EU citizens in another EU country is both regulated as it is restricted. Each member nation has a array of tools to deport EU citizens if they fall in certain categories (criminals, dependent on social welfare...). It was the UKs own choice not to use them. Also it was the UK`s own choice to allow immigration of eastern European workers much earlier than others. Concerning non EU immigrants, this is an area that is under full control of the nations.

[@lcoyle1998]

Imagine leaving the EU and pissing off almost every main trading partner we have just to sign a deal to shift goods to people on the other side of the world to people we already have deals with... SMH 😤

[@wakey87]

Thats one way of looking at it. But we were considered the link between the US and Europe, now we could be the link between the whole of the Pacific and Europe.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

Well, the new deals are much x infinitely better!

[@3diq225]

@@wakey87 Thats a complicated matter, not everyone sees that like a good thing, some ppl in Europe dnt like the idea of UK being a backdoor for certain products and want a more reliable link...

[@omahabricks]

@@wakey87 you forgot to consider one minor detail, if the EU wants to get trade deals with all the TTP countries, it won't definitely rely on the UK to get one, especially after all the bullshit that Boris said during the last months of 2020. The EU will get its own trade agreements. The US on the other might be the country that will benefit the most by joining the TTP. It's way more likely that they will be the link between the Pacific countries and Europe

[@rettenthetetlen8759]

@@kamanashiskar9203 Could you please explain why are the new deals are better?

[@alfresco8442]

Like living in Newcastle and doing your weekly shop in Exeter Tesco.

[@LednacekZ]

nope. Like living in Newcastle and doing your weekly shop in Majorca. Exeter is too close.

[@rozafisheikh7968]

Weekly shop in Antarctica 🐧

[@R1project0]

@@LednacekZ and considering the current container crisis. you can also add a hefty thousands of dollars payment for home delivery for the near future.

[@linyarin]

Seeing how the UK dishonoured themselves whilst a member of the EU I would suggest the TPP think very carefully about allowing the UK anywhere near them.

[@matts6816]

Why do you hate your own country so much? What did the UK Do to dishonour themselves whilst in the EU? Go ahead.

[@iggyme4133]

In July to September 2017, 42% of the UK population aged 21 to 64 had achieved higher education qualifications, this is explains everything, Brexit wote also all idiots in UK voted to leave hahahah 🤣

[@ryanmoss7482]

This is a natural reaction from anyone that wanted to remain, but you also have to remember that money speaks louder than emotion. China is the perfect example. Here you have a country with multiple moral issues in terms of human rights violations etc; and yet the number of countries that have free trade agreements or trade deals with China is staggering. Not only that, the EU themselves have a trade deal with the UK. If the EU can say "you were a shit partner, but we're going to deal with you anyway" why wouldn't anyone else?

[@linyarin]

@@matts6816 I do love & respect my country so what makes you think I don't?

[@pipmill7076]

Dave, the UK has not distributed themselves. UK took a democratic vote and the government honoured that vote. What's distributable about that? Also what makes you think the European union is honourable? The fact remains that the European union beurocrats have themselves a pay rise during a world wide recession.

[@FlamboyantInsomniac]

Uh, cool. A trade deal's a trade deal I guess. Wouldn't mind being the second biggest economy in *another* block.

[@BoojumFed]

@@kevinh4869 Which no trading block (including the EU) has ever done. Besides, what do you think the "Regulations underpinning trade" the CPTTP includes are if not the same thing as the "Sovereignty-violating" common standards and dispute resolution mechanisms you had in the EU?

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@BoojumFed mind blown lol 🤯

[@leet.s9213]

@@kevinh4869 so Japan Australia New Zealand don't have sovereignty? Also would that make Europe no sovereignty under EU?

[@leet.s9213]

@@kevinh4869 oh ok then sorry, was on the same page 😂

[@amt439]

@@kevinh4869 oh so you want to deport a foreign National who hates your country has been involved in several terrorist plots and has sworn to destroy you. Nah, that’d be against his human rights, instead you must pay for him and his family to live in the U.K.

[@robertwinslade3104]

In order to tackle climate change shouldn't we be relying less and less on long distance imports and exports? It seems pretty damn stupid and counter to this goal to throw away our place in the EU's single market for access to one on the other side of the globe

[@mrteeve]

"was it big for me in a TPP country?" hadn't heard of it until I saw this video...

[@FlamboyantInsomniac]

Based

[@Chunkypumpkinhead]

@@FlamboyantInsomniac Same

[@RamonMizzi]

Same here Steve B. I live in Australia and I just heard from here...

[@cammysmith7562]

Well this video doesn’t exactly do a great job of explaining that it’s just a multinational trade deal. The video makes out like it’s a big group that has influence over our lives like the EU but most people have never heard of it because politically it’s not all that important.

[@pipmill7076]

It's just reading partners not a wannabe empire like the eu. I doubt tpp will threaten to sanction people lol I think by joining some of the restrictions come off a you become a partner as supposed to just a customer or exporter.

[@dbosch71]

I’m Australian and this is literally the first I’ve heard of the UK wanting to join.

[@francissaunders4050]

This has been talked about for over a year now and NZ, Auz and Japan have already given it a thumbs up, so I don't know why you haven't heard about it? Don't you follow the news?

[@random_channel7376]

it's cause we lonely lol

[@francissaunders4050]

@@random_channel7376 😆

[@biocapsule7311]

Well their government are desperate to pretend there's something "positive".

[@random_channel7376]

@@biocapsule7311 tip boris

[@adamblissett3583]

Important question. Does Farage still follow your channel and has he subscribed to TLDR Global!?

[@joebenno6835]

Doubt he follows TLDR EU though

[@joyfulmarlin]

@@joebenno6835 they have been taking our headlines!

[@kamanashiskar9203]

@@joebenno6835 Most likely follows it to comment about what a s*** the EU is!

[@RafaelW8]

@@kamanashiskar9203 So he is the one down voting all the TLDR EU videos? Makes sense

[@joebenno6835]

@@joyfulmarlin time to reclaim what belongs to Britain 😤

[@therealdave06]

at least we'll get more shipping movement on our Pacific coast!

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

Carbon emissions be damned eh!

[@themeparkjaden]

We own Pitcairn Island which is in the Pacific

[@aonary5382]

@@themeparkjaden and has a population of about 50 people and no airport....

[@themeparkjaden]

@@aonary5382 Still a part of the U.K.

[@aonary5382]

@@themeparkjaden only because no one else wants it 😂

[@peterrandall8717]

The UK: "Let's leave the single largest internal market in which we have democratic political representation entirely for the sake of sovereignty, and then join a new organisation which gives coorporations free access and power over national sovereignity, but in which there are no democratic processes of representation!"

[@neodym5809]

@@dmwhite6735 Private courts to settle disputes between governments and companies. Part of almost all FTAs.

[@peterrandall8717]

​@@dmwhite6735 Yes I did watch the video. If you read up on TTP and the controversies surrounding it, you will very quickly learn that there are serious concerns that it will allow corporate interests to overrule national laws.

[@jdd109]

... someone should tell them we're in the Atlantic Aight these replies are mad I highly recommend if you want a laugh. I happen to think this is a good idea, I made a joking comment about how we would be an outlier. At no point did I say the UK should become entirely self sufficient and never trade again or that every country should be limited to trade only with those on the same continent. Calm down kids😂

[@chips1889]

So is the USA but I understand they might join.

[@Bluesfan1780]

We have overseas territories in the Pacific tho.

[@aonary5382]

@@chips1889 the USA has an entire Pacific coastline...

[@domskinner7887]

@@chips1889 I think you skipped an important part in your geography classes

[@domskinner7887]

@@Bluesfan1780 they use the dollar because of how far they are from the UK, seems logical to throw the entire UK trade system into the same problems 🤦‍♂️

[@dazsmith3201]

Are you going to produce a COVID colouring book like the BREXIT one?

[@danielpickton-allen8385]

Seems a bit far away, if only there was something similar closer to home we could apply to join...

[@random_channel7376]

hah

[@R1project0]

I think Russia and central Asian countries are trying to put together something like it

[@danielpickton-allen8385]

@@R1project0 the Soviet Union you mean?

[@R1project0]

@@danielpickton-allen8385 that was the beta version, however they are stuck into development hell as they can't agree on the new core mechanics and China is offering some devs positions for their Silk Road mmo. now that I'm done talking out of my ass it's actually called Eurasian Economic Union.

[@azzyPOONIP]

It's okay. Relative to the size of the universe, Chile and NZ are our neighbours

[@senanur1983]

I was just working on this topic for my next article, thank you for giving me more info.

[@taipizzalord4463]

Are we gonna get a referendum on this?

[@kamanashiskar9203]

No. The people are too stupid.

[@jackh9654]

Nope. You know what you did last time this happened. British voters are going to sit in a corner while the Parliament finishes sorting this stuff out.

[@Delogros]

Why would we need one? Is just a trade deal there is no political issues like with the EU...

[@valenrn8657]

Atm, CPTPP is just a common FTA with multiple countries. CPTPP Commission is weaker than EC's Merger Treaty enabled Commission of the European Communities (precursor to EU's European Commission).

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

We didn't on lisbon treaty either

[@Djungelurban]

UK: "I don't wanna be some junior partner in a trade union!" Also UK: Applies to be an even more insignificant junior partner in a different trade union.

[@joshbentley2307]

Trade unions are good. But the EU isn’t just a trade union is it?

[@rxdxctxd2287]

We did not leave because of the trade but because of political matters that surrounded the union. For example Hungary has had access to millions in EU grants despite being one of the most corrupt EU countries.

[@peterebel7899]

UK will get special rights as well. As leadership of the pack will be granted to UK solely.

[@alganhar1]

If the EU was just a Trade Union the UK would not have left. Problem is it is NOT just a Trade Union, it is a Political Union with the STATED AIM of eventual Federalisation of its Member States. As for being an insignificant Partner in the EU? That made me chuckle, as the second largest Economy in the EU the UK was FAR from being an insignificant member of the EU. The UK was not a junior partner in the EU... not when it was one of the main contributers to the EU's budget....

[@peterebel7899]

@@alganhar1 The path to insignificance is a stony one. But UK is willed to take it.

[@RafaelW8]

Take a shot every time Jack says "TPP", we got wasted.

[@williamnomates1456]

The TTP needs to imagine the scene in 40 years time, when the UK is done with it and will seek to destroy it. Learn from the lesson of the EU.

[@alexanderlipowsky6055]

seek to destroy, but fails, destroys itself instead

[@mrlegkick91]

How on earth is the uk seeking to destroy the EU?... are we that important that us leaving is literally destroying the EU??

[@bearsagainstevil]

we joined a thing for free trade and free movement , not political union thats why we left the EU changed

[@houdicov]

Yes a democratic vote that was actually implemented must be a huge shock to the EU institutions, normally EU countries are told to go back and have another vote until they vote the way the EU can approve of.I imagine you would have preferred the ballot paper with the choices of, Remain or Not Leaving the EU.

[@kreb7]

@Yelaa Bob push for rapid expansion, block military cooperation that would cut costs, keep pushing for consensions and protection rules from other member. The complain that EU got to big, and quit then complain again for Been outside and EU has too many protection rules for 3rd party countries. Ie fishing

[@mark63424able]

Geography matters for fresh produce but things like the Services sector, which is a large part of the UK economy, would very much benefit from this; and the UK will continue to trade with the EU regardless so why not? Nobody is saying this is a replacement for EU trade; its an expansion.

[@cammysmith7562]

As an Australia I couldn’t care less if the U.K. join. The video makes it seem like we are some exclusive club like the EU when our main goal was just to try end our reliance on China. Any new markets we can make money from then I’m happy for them to join.

[@mvnkycheez]

Sounds pretty based

[@jeffcampbell1555]

So, the English found the imposition of EU standards and regulations an infringement of their sovereignty. Will the TPP's ruffle fewer feathers? What about the shipping costs of moving goods into the opposite hemishpere. The UK is part of Europe. This is further irrational BS from the emotionally challenged Tories.

[@alecneate76]

The cptpp is not a limiting deal like the EU. There's no supranational parliament full of unelected bureaucrats dictating our laws.

[@Brommear]

Welcome to the UK! Far too few British products available in Chile. And our wine is better than French wine!

[@craigh2205]

between newzealand and chile the uk has the pitcairn islands so they r part off the pacif rim technically lol

[@plyjhny]

Pitcairn Island is defacto NZ teritory

[@craigh2205]

@@plyjhny still belongs to the uk tough

[@plyjhny]

@@craigh2205 In theory, New Zealand is still a realm of the British Crown

[@koolaak2926]

France has got more overseas territories in the Pacific area than we have. Fors sure they can join us at TPP. Happy ain't we?

[@SwissSareth]

Well, I want this to happen. I also want the US to join. That block would be a significant opposition to China's expansionist agenda.

[@MrStoneyburke]

The British will try to wreck your Union just like they tried to do to the EU.

[@jms6945]

@@MrStoneyburke I don't think the UK tried to wreck the EU. They just left.

[@rxdxctxd2287]

@@MrStoneyburke I love it when people say my country tried to destroy the Union. Clearly you my man need some tea 😉

[@joshbentley2307]

@@MrStoneyburke you’re delusional😂

[@theendoftheworldhasbeenqui2485]

China is literally one of the potential members that might join, you sinophobic idiot

[@NotHPotter]

Why does the UK keep trying to horn in on trading blocs that are a world away?

[@Frankablu]

It just left the EU trade block and now shopping for a new one

[@rettenthetetlen8759]

@@Frankablu That wasn't a question. Have you misunderstood the question❓

[@Frankablu]

@@rettenthetetlen8759 * rolls eyes *

[@rettenthetetlen8759]

@@Frankablu steaming 🧠. Uhh sorry there's nothing to steam.

[@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc]

Investor State Dispute Settlement. Otherwise known as if a company doesn't think a country is giving them enough unreasonable conditions, they sue.

[@papi8659]

with secret courts ......

[@colorpraeterita3824]

TPP member here (NZ). I haven't heard anything about this in my local mainstream media, although to be fair I don't pay them much attention anyway. I'm not actively against the idea of the UK joining as such but given they're on the other side of the world and, as this video points out, they do or will soon have trade deals with most of the TPP members then I don't really see the point of them joining... all it does is give Boris a 'win' to aid in his domestic politics which is meaningless to the rest of us. Something this vid doesn't mention is that back when the deal was nearing completion (when Obama was still the US President) there were many large, organized anti-TPP protests in many of the member nations (including NZ), with things such as the ISDS system and patent protection rules been seen as particularly egregious tools in an agreement that was less about trade and more about expanding US corporate control at the expense of others national autonomy. When Trump pulled the US out (one of his few silver linings) it also created space for some of those things to be renegotiated to be less crappy... however I worry that if Biden wants back in with the TPP he'll try to get those awful old rules reinstated. Personally I wish it had remained as the original P4, as smaller countries like mine will always struggle to have fair dealings with other much larger economies.

[@clasqm]

Don't you want to join BRICS instead? We have vodka.

[@dumdumbrown4225]

😂 lemme in!

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

SOLD!

[@ARW.7]

Great video - well broken down and narrated 👏🏼

[@mattisglad]

Great vid thanks

[@PhilipJackson03]

I’m surprised China wasn’t mentioned once in this.

[@jie1379]

He probably doesn't wanna piss off china, bcz China wasn't invited to the party. 😂

[@hirsch133]

I’d there’s one thing I love more than an Free trade agreement, it’s a multilateral free trade agreement.

[@highdownmartin]

I’ve started driving to netto in greater Manchester for my weekly supermarket shop. It’s under 600 miles for the round trip and I’m so happy now. Local shopping is on the point of collapse. I might go to Dundee to do a car boot sale in the summer,been having a good clear out during lockdown so have lots to sell.

[@jmacdonald6195]

For sure, I'm out of milk so I'll just do a quick run up to a Tesco Express in Aberdeen then pop down to Gibraltar for some fresh veggies

[@igorb2958]

Thanks for interesting educational video. It was not too facetious (treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor). I am in Canada, and I think Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) with even more countries should happen.

[@calcrappie8507]

It makes sense just for defense contracts alone. UK has some excellent companies in the defense realm and the tensions in the Pacific would mean a growing market. Fresh winter vegetables and fruits from Chile. Tropical products. Manufactured products from Japan and Vietnam. Tighter connections with Australia and New Zealand. Fish products from all over. And best of all, an alternative to buying stuff from China.

[@Be-Es---___]

The UK traded EU rules for CPTPP rules. Sovereign UK lasted one month. 🤣

[@SM-ly5tf]

This isnt a union, but a trading block, uk can leave any time

[@Delogros]

*sigh* When you export to another country or trading area the exporter is required to adhere to that destinations rules and regulations, in the EU 100% of UK domestic goods where also required to adhere to EU rules and regulations, this is not the case with a trade block.

[@desbowman9497]

Great video very informative

[@discoveryman59]

Britain, Canada , U.S.A., New Zealand, Australia, That's all we need! If we formed an alliance no one could stop us!!

[@emeidocathail7808]

Let’s leave a big trading block full of rules .. so we can then join another big trading block full of rules.

[@bad307207]

The rules are very different, I might be wrong but tpp is just a trade deal, no free movement etc...

[@pipmill7076]

I was going to say the European union is completely different. I doubt there are plans for a tpp military etc.

[@oakstrong1]

@@pipmill7076 There never was a plan for EU military. That was just another "talk" of brexiteers trying to scare people for voting out. However, the way Russia, China and the US and home-grown Nazism are gaining power, I don't think its that bad idea...

[@jamesswinden603]

@@oakstrong1 there is definitely a plan for it, where have you been? It’s been discussed for the past few years at least. It might not happen and become a reality but to say there is no plan for it is wildly inaccurate. You can KZbin speeches in the European Parliament openly discussing the plan for it. And as per your suggestion I’d guess the purpose of said plan is to act as a deterrent to Russia, especially after annexing Crimea on the EU’s border. Generally they don’t seem to give a shit. But does that make it a good alternative to NATO? Considering how few European countries are meeting their defence spending obligations under NATO I’d say yes, because no ones taking NATO spending seriously, except Poland and the now departed UK. Without a few key players like the USA, the UK and France the EU is toothless.

[@houdicov]

This trading block isn't demanding 10's of billions a year membership fee, or demanding our fishing grounds. It doesn't have a parliament (or even 2 in the EU's case), there is no ECJ, common currency, Presidents ,anthems, flags etc. It won't try and create an USSR type state. There will be no attempt for fiscal and monetary union, and moves towards a common foreign policy. Good old Guy Verhofsdat has already made a speech in the EU parliament of the need to create an EU empire, and the need to get rid of national vetoes. But apart from that ,yes it's the same really.

[@blakegilmore9360]

Discount code finally motivated me to actually get the NZ pin I wanted lol they are actually cool unique merch which is rare for youtubers

[@maxout7306]

Another very good fact based account to educate. Asia is coming up so Britain needs to be involved. I like this channel for it's good narration and clean graphics. Other channels can annoy by putting forward what they think we need to see. Please keep this format. Liked.

[@hawklord100]

No one laughs at the commonwealth of 83 nations trading with Britain, what is the difference with a group of nations in around the pacific, Britain already has trade relations with Japan, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, coming together with another group of Pacific nations is just common pragmatic trading sense.

[@therichieboy]

You say TTP, I say TPP. Let's call the whole thing off.

[@leet.s9213]

i yes geography isn't good but second biggest economy, every country in the group would indeed benefit from uk and UK trade will benefit from the block also i think uk is hoping for usa to join so uk can get a deal with the usa, making the block biggger economy then eu but it depends how uk other 11 member trade with the uk

[@Von104]

I like the red tape creative choice at 3:06

[@gachacaspa]

I mean maybe. Like you explained the history and how we trade with so many already and maybe another 2 in future. But could we have info on the practicalities of the remainder?

[@jamesmckay435]

What colour will the passports have to be, and where will the plumbers be coming from?

[@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501]

We won't need passports because we won't be able to afford travel and we won't need plumbers because we will be digging wells.

[@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501]

@Heed The Ba' Yes indeed.

[@a2falcone]

The CPTPP can't answer those questions, because it doesn't regulate migration. It's just a trade deal, albeit a very comprehensive one.

[@davidgreen6490]

Oh silly Euro boy, its a trading bloc unlike the EU it does not affect passport colour lol. The EU clowns are sooooo brainwashed with their outdated political union bollocks ha ha.

[@jamesmckay435]

@@davidgreen6490 The EU don't dictate passport colour either. Ever seen a Croatian one?

[@RafaelW8]

Jack, you didn't talk about how like it is that the UK is accepted into the TPP

[@RS-sj3fb]

The other nations in the TPP are far down the road of genuine free trade ( well perhaps with the exception of Canada with their EU-style dairy protectionism) so it is inconceivable that the UK would not be welcomed into the TPP. But the UK would have to embrace genuine free markets and free trade. The UK won't be a welcome addition if it comes into talks armed with loads of reasons why Welsh sheep farmers need protection. Canada already screwed NZ out of any real benefits from joining the TPP.

[@nautilusshell4969]

'Could show some of Britain's vision going forward'. What's that then?

[@tombowen6430]

Great idea - a trading group just half a planet away - what could possibly go wrong?

[@berlindude75]

Careful whom you invite into your midst "in a specific and limited way".

[@arleygomez465]

Never mind the fact the Internal Markets Bill never ended up breaking international law, lets talk about the EU casually breaking the Good Friday Agreement the other day to the outrage of Ireland.

[@thesaintirl]

@@arleygomez465 but that didn’t actually happen, article 16 amendments were dropped after 5 hours, dry your eyes.

[@arleygomez465]

@@thesaintirl dropped after condemnation from Dublin and Belfast. At least the IMB went through a proper democratic process, the EU can break the GFA by diktat without even consulting the member state it affects.

[@paulwood6729]

@@arleygomez465 And approved by every Commissioner, including Ireland's.

[@arleygomez465]

@@paulwood6729 does the Irish Commissioner run Ireland? The Irish government were completely blindsided by the EUs announcement.

[@Tintin-hh1gf]

Uk really wants to be in other union dont they Its like they need a rebound union after they left eu

[@arleygomez465]

Did you even watch the video before making that comment? This is nothing like EU membership.

[@numega7323]

The government knows Brexit was a mistake. That's why, because it was stupid. Trade deals only mean good.

[@jamessteel9016]

Desperate to prove Brexshit ‘works’

[@MRAROCKERDUDE]

CPTPP is not a political union like the EU. Nothing like it. It’s a trade pact. There’s no Parliament, no court, no budget contributions etc. We can have multiple FTAs and trade pacts with countries and groups of countries across the globe. Membership of the EU meant we could not take advantage of opportunities with growing nations. The Asia/Pacific region is where the growth will be over the coming decades.

[@Tintin-hh1gf]

I did watch the viedio i ment it as joke

[@BZAKether]

Mexico: No, in fact, I think everyone forgot about the CPTPP as 80% of our trade has been and will continue to be with the USA, we like it or not.

[@paulv9258]

It's a good thing nobody has read BJ's EU trade deal. So 48% of Britain can dream about being part of the Pacific while tariffs go up on the EU side and 45% of UK trade goes down to, say 5%.

[@joseenciso9099]

Nice!! That could make easier for me to achieve my dream!! Authentic Mexican tacos and a restaurant❤️

[@BoojumFed]

Canadian here. This video is literally the first I've heard of Johnson wanting into the TPP... Sounds like a good excuse for shipment jobs from coast to coast here and (let's face it, mostly) in Mexico, but it's not exactly going to be helping with your shipping costs, is it?

[@megaangelic]

As much as many may tell you, shipping is actually a very minor impact on cost.

[@Fordnan]

I think the tories have their eyes on Vietnam. They don't complian about sh*tty working conditions...

[@vinniechan]

The ideas of joining has been around for a while the UK and Japan mentioned their support during the trade talks

[@BoojumFed]

@@Fordnan Well, the nice part about the TPP is that reducing trade barriers means working towards equalizing working conditions and I can tell you right now that any attempt to bring Canada's down to Vietnam's is gonna be met... unkindly, despite what our last couple decades of union-crushing would have you believe.

[@RS-sj3fb]

Fantastic news that the UK is joining the TPP . A real poke in the eye to the Americans who piked out. Welcome from NZ

[@teod1298]

Except not really? You've got a real elementary level understanding of things... And it shows.

[@jonathonjubb6626]

We look like a desperate divorcée looking for a girlfriend. And making all the same mistakes...

[@awatt]

Only that girlfriend is as hot as hell and has to fight them off with a stick.

[@awatt]

@Name not supplied Have you seen the "cabinet as women" meme. Boris is quite the looker.

[@awatt]

@Name not supplied Google Male Tory leadership hopefuls reimagined as women in gender-swap pics As I can't post links for some reason.

[@awatt]

@Name not supplied You got caught out googling tub girl ?

[@guyh9992]

Makes more sense than CANZUK from an Australian perspective.

[@alecneate76]

Both can happen together

[@aonary5382]

Ah yes the Pacific Ocean....makes sense

[@thewingedhussar4188]

Or for that matter, what is stopping the UK from just declaring independence again? (ROFL)

[@MRAROCKERDUDE]

In a country with a significant services sector, which relies less and less on the trading of physical goods vs digital goods, geographic proximity becomes less important. We have a large and growing financial services sector which doesn’t need geographic proximity to trade internationally

[@aonary5382]

@@MRAROCKERDUDE isn't the UK financial sector relocating to the EU? Besides trading groups tend to be organised geographically, otherwise the TPP wouldn't be a thing would it...

[@thewingedhussar4188]

@@MRAROCKERDUDE But that still doesn't explain what would stop the UK from just declaring Independence?

[@martinhami3]

"we don't trade much with them"... Yes, which is why it is a good opportunity for growth

[@chrishousby2685]

That map really doesn't show how massive the pacific is, there's a lot less distance between the UK and Canada, same goes for the Americas. Getting to the east asian countries is a bit awkward though.

[@pedroarjona6996]

Two of the 4 countries in America have an Atlantic coast

[@alejandroojeda1572]

Yeah....it's pretty absurd. More even when you realise that it's shorter to go through the Suez canal to Singapore than through the Panama canal. Britain is THAT far away. in fact I'm pretty sure some of those countries are closer the other way around.

[@Deepthought-42]

There is a lot less distance to Europe but UK couldn’t make a go of the EU so has to look further afield.

[@alganhar1]

@@Deepthought-42 Yeah, the UK could not make a go of a Political Union that is gradually increasing its hold on its Member Nations.... And that right there is the issue with the EU. It is not simply a Trading Block and has not been for decades. THAT is what Britain objected to, but of course that is generally ignored outside the Country isn't it? Breaking news, Trading Blocks do not generally require a standing army, such is left in the hands of Nation States. So why then is the EU going ahead with its plans for an army? Comparing TPP with the EU is what morons do, there is no comparison. One is a Trading Block, the other is a Political Union seeking increasing Federalisation of its member states... Guess which one the UK does NOT want to be part of?

[@fyngolnoldor4891]

Ah, a 5D chess move designed to pay off in 2050, just about the time when the Brexit dividends might start kicking in...or was that 2070 according to Rees-Mogg?...

[@sagmilling]

To join, you must learn about kilometres.

[@AIArtworks45]

Nope! XD There is not chance they will ever do that XD

[@peterebel7899]

UK will change the club to Imperial Units.

[@edwardbernthal160]

@@peterebel7899 as sure as god made little green apples the UK will be wanting to change the rules and begging for dispensations.

[@peterebel7899]

@@edwardbernthal160 EU will have to abandon the metric system because it's not god given and far too socialist. EU will pay lifetime fees to UK to get the permission using imperial units. Whenever you measure length, weight, ... you will have to pay a percentage to some Tory friends providing this service.

[@edwardbernthal160]

@@peterebel7899 and so they should, after all the UK does hold all the cards and once had an empire.

[@DaDunge]

6:30 That's not bad, if that's nominal GDP it's just under what the EU and US has.

[@meshonni7716]

7:34 i dont know why but there is an island called hi right in the center

[@josephhilditch5086]

Good. A trade area without a political union.

[@Tintin-hh1gf]

Well asean is kind of a politicle union in south east asia

[@josephharrison8354]

@@Tintin-hh1gf Are we planning to join that?

[@Tintin-hh1gf]

Xd are sure that good idea we dont want another politicle exit xdd

[@leandroschristides9410]

Joining a different block running by "unelected bureaucrats" on the other side of the World ? Why then we left EU ? Is it make any sense?

[@Doso777]

So you can Brexit again.

[@Felix-cn5vf]

Decent well rounded video. One thing I'd add is concerns where you said it would only add a couple counties to the deal tally. But wouldn't being in an EU-type free market be a better deal than those that are 'continuations' of deals that the EU had with those external countries? So my point is: Isn't it more like 2 deals to add to the tally, and 9 major improvements to exiting deals. I'd like to know what you make of the text so here's a video idea: Differences between EU deals and TPP benefits, is it any better? Though I get why you just mentioned the '2 new deals to add to the tally' - its not really something the conservatives can share on Facebook/Insta lol

[@ciaran_telfer_18]

Interesting

[@marikal2341]

I wish the UK wouldn't be so anti-EU.

[@megaangelic]

Being Pro-Globalisation isn't being Anti-EU per se, it's just that the EU is anti-globalisation and heavily protectionist.

[@swanky_yuropean7514]

@@megaangelic Can you explain how the EU is anti-globalisation? That makes no sense in the context that the EU is the leading organisation with the most free or comprehensive trade agreements of any block or individual country.

[@marikal2341]

@@megaangelic All trade deals and unions give their members perks and the outsiders see it as protectionist and it's partly true. EU has numerous deals to numerous places in the world. The UK media just portrays a skewed picture sometimes. It has been very heavy on anti-EU rhetoric for decades, ignoring the good sides. I wish you all the best, I just think it's sad. We are neighbours.

[@masta11m11]

by all means join just to leave

[@brunorebelo6879]

I am amazed that some here defend Brexit because they did not want to be a colony of the Franco-Germanic empire. Instead of complaining if you had really tried to make a difference, several other EU countries would have supported you. The conclusion is that you can only complain about yourself.

[@houdicov]

Ha ha ha ha,reform the EU ha ha ha ha.The EU has no interest in reform, try listening to what the EU leaders are saying. They want a Federal Europe and they won't stop until they get one. A country called Europe with nation states reduced to effectively council chambers. We are not complaining we are just happy to be finally rid of your protectionist racket. We are just the first to leave.

[@Arkturus88]

After all that hostility towards various latin people in Europe (Italians, Spaniards, Romanian) I'm happy to see UK so excited to sit at the same table with our fellows Peruvians, Chileans and Mexicans. I like this positive change of direction!

[@anja4790]

Lol

[@Arkturus88]

@Yelaa Bob Brexit campaign was pointing out that some EU nations were weaker economies that slowed down the UK, mostly naming the “Latin” ones. It was not just about economy, there was also some good old cultural racism: I still remember Nigel Farage making some bad jokes during an interview, mocking a journalist about an hypothetical “family of Romanians (or Italians I don’t remember) moving in his apartment”. I’m happy to see this change of course, that’s all.

[@Arkturus88]

​@Yelaa Bob Sure, I'm ignorant. During my work trips in UK no one ever insulted me because of my nationality or "weird accent", specially after 2016, I was just delusional or it was all just a dream. You really should be nicer to strangers, I don't know you and I'm not calling you an ignorant out of the blue. I'm not even expressing myself in my first or second language; I'm asking you this courtesy. If you are saying to me that things are now different, well I'm happy to hear it.

[@Arkturus88]

​@Yelaa Bob Italian. I'm sorry but after 2016 every "weird accent" was not that pleasant to hear by common people, specially on public transportations where I had some bad encounters. You are giving for granted that everyone can recognise a "good" foreigner from a "bad" one, with a anti-migration climate the everyday man can act like that. I was there because of an international company, for temporary assignments, not for stealing job... and I'm very sorry because back in 2011 I didn't saw anything like that. Don't let me start of the Daily Express titles. I repeat, if you are saying that things are not like that I'm glad to hear it. At the end of the day I'm not welcome as I used to be, I need a passport and a check (i still have to check if a visa is needed for a work trip). Just, please, don't be offensive. I'm just describing my point of view.