TMAF 2024 - Russian Views on the Future of Manoeuvrist Approach

Krisztián Jójárt, PhD (HUN), research assistant with the Swedish Defence University, and a research fellow at the Budapest based John Lukács Institute for Strategy and Politics
As opposed to Western militaries that are not themselves involved in warfighting in transparent battlefields, Russia has gained first-hand experience at its own expense over the course of more than two years of fighting against Ukraine. Therefore, Russian lessons of waging war on a transparent battlefield will not only be important to predict Russian doctrinal development, but can also provide valuable lessons for Western militaries too

[@hisevilness_com]

With Ukraine suffering heavy casualties it can hardly be called a stalemate. It is called attrition. Where positional warfare plays its role, because in order to manoeuvre you need the opportunity to do so.

[@michaelfaraday8391]

Russia is advancing and advancing steadily. I don’t understand why these people are still referring to it as a stalemate. It’s not a stalemate only when Ukraine has the upper hand

[@ikaustralia]

It's as close as the west can get to admitting defeat 😊

[@frankdukes3253]

@@michaelfaraday8391 I think it's the same reason they said Ukraine could have achieved a "Greater Victory" in the presentation. I don't think they're allowed to allude to or outright say Ukraine is losing.

[@opairsoft8100]

And the Russians aren’t suffering massive casualties?

[@opairsoft8100]

@@ikaustraliaso tell me, when the Germans were at the gates of Moscow in 41, were the Soviets admitting defeat? Defeat only comes when one side is unable to wage war or when both sides come to a consensus and hostiles stop…. Both of which haven’t happened and show no signs of happening soon… So tell me again, how should the West admit defeat when defeat hasn’t even happened?

[@Hashishtani]

Despite the "Oppressive regime in Russia, it encourages the military thinking" :-) It looks that your regime is so oppressive that wouldn't you start your monologue with this words you would not be allowed to the scene. Otherwise, thanks for review...

[@borisbritva7453]

Touche!

[@niklasnorberg5071]

Correct , from what have seen, Russians in general are much more open for selfcritics then what we are. While they have learned alot from this war we still think we are superior.

[@Vedioviswritingservice]

The EU is far more oppressive than anything you will find in Russia. They just cancelled an election in Romania because the wrong candidate won. Now they are looking to remove him completely, just like what they are trying to do with the AFD.

[@John_Pace]

Obviously Sun Tzu Art of War has NOT been translated into Austrian German.

[@ns_gefolgsmann6156]

Children book?

[@Tossa60]

✌...in English, French either?

[@miguelgameiro8063]

Worst part the second best book about war “Von kriege” is in german and seems to also go unread

[@jittertn]

Love the superposed presentation composed on top, ups the quality and makes following easier

[@sowelie1]

Great talk, when a lecture has few yt likes usualy it is very good

[@An1Kum]

LGBT army looks concerned

[@alexandriaoccasional-corte1346]

That's why they try to recruite Q+ lol

[@MultiMuditha]

So dos your mom.

[@mladenmatosevic4591]

What is happening now is not stalemate. Russians have favorable ratio of human losses and in same time gain territory. But modern weapons gave huge firepower in hands of relatively light and mobile units so fast and deep military penetrations can result in ambushes and large losses, while slower progress give chance to defender to quickly set defense line and ambushes.

[@MultiMuditha]

Source is Lavrovs ass as per usual?

[@opairsoft8100]

How is losing more men in a month then what your recruitment process can come up with a positive manpower trade for Russia??? Is 10+10 the equivalent of 5 to you???

[@THEDAVILAK1]

I think what OP meant is that a 3 day operation has been going on for almost 3 years

[@bogdanobradovic7621]

He seems to highlight that Russia did not have sucess early on in the war. The area around Lugansk was a large sucess, it would not be possible without the operation around Kiev, where Russia also did well considering that they were greatly outnumbered there. Then the author attributed the destruction of the Kahovka dam to Russia when the evidence is inconclusive, and in an academic presentation, facts must be considered, especially since the destruction seemed to favour Ukriane and not Russia.

[@finenavaljewelry5798]

If you consider the attrition of Russian Airborne Corps and Spetznaz a success, then sure, Russia was very successful around Kyiv. Destruction of Khakovka dam does not favor Ukraine in any shape or form.

[@borisbritva7453]

@@finenavaljewelry5798 And your opinion about "attrition" is based on what?

[@complex_variation]

Russia was not successful in Kiev

[@niklasnorberg5071]

​@@complex_variation I think they got exactly what they wanted Zelensky shitting his pant in the bunker and comming to the negotiation table pretty fast. Unfortunatly for at least half a million Ukrainian soldiers we convinced them to walk away from that and now things are much wurse.🤡

[@ChopsUm]

@@borisbritva7453 I would guess it's based on the large amount of attriting of their people that they experienced.

[@unixtohack]

Interesting to find out both ‘parties’ are learning from eachother … the presentation was OK but the foundation of this is ‘the west knows everything, the east nothing’ … in war underestimating the opponent is a very faulty level of thinking. Do you. know the story about the samourai and the thee-maker. Even if someone don’t have weapons, he/she can be very deadly … But this is only a story. I want to know the numbers of lost lives on both sides of this conflict ...

[@Br1cht]

And he will have a great career, our rulers have some yes-men that follow the party line much more happily than critical thinkers.

[@evgen-cy6so]

1) "Russia is a dwarf, I will bring it to its knees" (Charles XII, 18th century) - Sweden forever lost its status as a great power! 2) "I will conquer backward Russia" (Friedrich, mid-18th century) - in 1759, the Russian army triumphantly entered Berlin! 3) "Russia is a colossus with feet of clay" (Napoleon, 19th century) - in 1814, the Russians entered Paris in triumph! 4) "I will conquer the USSR by the end of the year" (Hitler, 20th century) - in 1945, he committed suicide when the Soviet army entered Berlin! The world has changed, but they simply forgot to tell the Americans and Europeans about it!

[@FiveBarbarian]

The brief need a lot of work and correction. It will be interesting to see how the RF blow the dam considering that they lost all the def., they are on the low side of the river... Work and no BS plz

[@ChopsUm]

"It will be interesting to see how the RF blow the dam" Perhaps they used explosives. I think the Russian Army has some explosives.

[@AMOUREDD]

​@@ChopsUmboy you could only understand certain words in his complaint

[@Silentbob515]

The RF blown the dam by putting a rather large amount of explosives inside it

[@FiveBarbarian]

@@Silentbob515 yes u are right, not everyone can have a critical thinking and logic

[@Silentbob515]

@@FiveBarbarian Look i know this is gonna be too close to reality for you, but here's a thing... the dam was destroyed from the inside and the explosion happened on the russian side now i understand that in your dimwitted brainded reality Ukraine smuggling tons of explosives inside russia held dam is perfectly plausible, but outside the fantasy world in which you live that simply didn't happened on account of being impossible hence the only option is that russia did it, because russia was the ONLY one capable of doing it on account of them being the ones that held the place that exploded...from the inside! by the way the amount of explosived to destroy it was so big it registed as an seismic event hundreds of kilometers away

[@Vizhajtas]

Krisztián!!!!! Hajrá!!!

[@moscow3424]

Не взрывали мы плотину. 1. После взрыва затопило наши войска. Левый берег Днепра низкий, правый высокий. 2. Из этого водохранилища Запорожская АЭС получала воду для охлаждения реакторов. 3. Из этого водохранилища по каналу поступала пресная вода в Крым. 4. Артиллерия ВСУ доминирует на оперативно-тактической глубине с высокого берега Днепра.

[@TheRomankopler]

The whole strategy of NATO and the West as a whole to take down Russia by a proxy war in Ukraine was asked on the idiotic assumption that Russia is weak - underestimating Russia is still a silly hobby in the West.

[@ChopsUm]

The West wildly over-estimated Russia. The West thought they'd occupy Ukraine in a few weeks. It's now been three years.

[@opairsoft8100]

Tell me again how your Cold War equipment stocks are doing…or your “totally Russian” North Korean personnel

[@TheRomankopler]

@@opairsoft8100 well - how many tanks and artillery UK has left? Or Germany - or even France...? Don't worry about the Russians... and more important - why is Ukraine running out of ammo AND trained soldiers?

[@opairsoft8100]

@ considering the French were producing something like 12 or so 155mm Caesar SPG’s per month back in summer of 2023, I’m sure they are doing fine just like Germany….. Plus you’re still forgetting the 2000+ Abrams and about 1,500 Bradley’s the US still has in storage or the powerhouse’s that are Sweden or Poland.. Also didn’t you hear, France just finished training and equipping an entire new brigade and another one that was trained/equipped in Germany by the US….

[@TheRomankopler]

@@opairsoft8100 all will be well then...

[@krikorbedrossian6573]

Very interesting and informative 🙏✌️

[@anthonyezenwa3620]

Who told you that they relied on German and French The way you tell what person think is so delusional of you

[@fmnan7247]

I must say this seminar was so vary bad, so low quality. He talked talked talked but was just mentioning theories, while he develped none.

[@GabrielB-mr7jp]

Totaly true!

[@CasusBelli-zm3ot]

agreee, i watched most of them but gotta fast forward or skip em, very low quality, its clear non of em served in tank/cav unit with real experience. just talking bs or obvius facts u can read on wiki.

[@radoviddrobnjak3692]

Not only he is not wearing s skirt, maje up and high heels, he does not even know that the traditional greeting in eastern europe is bread and salt and not bread and flour. So sad.

[@tawahachee8914]

It doesn't even make sense to serve bread with flour.... How does he imagine that I wonder? Jesus Christ...

[@redbird8888]

He said bread and flower

[@zrgbrg]

Wow, Bot activity is really high under these videos

[@stana1278]

Where? I looked for bot comments. Didn't find any. Or is the word 'bot' now a euphemism for 'a commentator you don't agree with'?

[@zrgbrg]

​@@stana1278 This video series has attracted the most idiotic comments, obviously attracted by the word "Russian" in a youtube video. "LGBT army looks concerned, why is the not wearing a skirt" and so on only under this video, not mentioning the others. If you don't see it, you are probaly part of the endeavour.

[@Br1cht]

@@stana1278 Yes.

[@opairsoft8100]

@@stana1278oh your sad about Block M39A1’s landing in Russian aren’t you.

[@Internetbutthurt]

Cope harder NAFAG

[@chokosabe]

This talk is pure gold

[@timboz88]

Overall, a balanced presentation. I'm somewhat reassured that the serious thinkers behind the scenes do take the Russian's seriously, but they need to be very careful. I hope there is some discussion posted on the elephant in the room. Oreshnik (Russian: Орешник, lit. 'Hazel tree'). Thank you for posting these. It will soon be the celebration of Jesus's birthday, for those inclined, a prayer for the soldiers on both sides would be welcomed. 🎄

[@MultiMuditha]

Why pray for the orcs?

[@opairsoft8100]

I mean, Oreshnik isn’t that crazy…. the West have MIRV’s too you know..

[@ХРЕНОРЕЗ]

The Russians are winning with great success. NATO has empty warehouses. That's why they have a briefing. If Russia was losing, then the briefing would not be necessary.

[@ChopsUm]

This makes no sense. If briefings stopped when you were winning, you'd quickly start losing.

[@MultiMuditha]

I'll save your comment for when competion for most idiotic statment 2024 starts.

[@opairsoft8100]

Tell me again how your Soviet Cold War era equipment stocks are doing…..

[@WashingtonSanchez]

Love the Perun slide theme 😂

[@Internetbutthurt]

Perun is a propagandist. Anyone who takes him seriously is a fool.

[@thousandsish]

So they are talking about Russia military problems, instead of what Ukraine and Europe need to do to push Russia back,

[@vincentgroudeniutes1655]

You Germans choosed to attack Russia several times…. You refuse ro learn… seems like 😂

[@joingermany2669]

Философ и пропагандист пытается пропихнуть,своим военным,что Россия зло и тоталитаризм. Но вопреки всему учится и признают ошибки The philosopher and propagandist is trying to push through,to his military, that Russia is evil and totalitarianism. But despite everything, they learn and admit mistakes.

[@CasusBelli-zm3ot]

why dont ukraine create manouver formations with girl officers like sweden and uk ?

[@opairsoft8100]

Because the Ukrainian women are too busy flying FPV’s into Russians and North Koreans

[@thebestof3132]

Perun ripoff?

[@Internetbutthurt]

Perun is a propagandist with zero credibility. Only morons listen to him.

[@nikkip46]

Love Russia!

[@MultiMuditha]

No

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

Are Russian citizens literally coping in these comments 😅

[@Silentbob515]

just bots, these videos are getting swarmed

[@ilyesh1]

I don't think ru learned anytime anything. Also in ww2 they were first rescued by the western alliances and then won be sheer number of people and not by any good tactics or strategy. Just look at the number of kia.

[@AntPictures]

I think you are looming inside the Hollywood ponyland. Check the actual record on that. The whole Western alliance faced 20% of the Germans. 80% of them died on the Eastern front. Most of the casualties that soviets got was in concentration camps where people were destroyed on an industrial level. Peasants at the beginning of the war didn't knew what surrender would mean. Also soviets were not faced by the Germans but with half of Europe at that point. Look how many countries became Nazi offilliates in 1942.

[@MrZlocktar]

You don't think. Precisely the cause of all your problems. I don't know which WWII you're talking about, but it's probably WWII from some other multiverse where western alliances destroyed over 80% of entire Germany's army. Cause in our universe USSR inflicted all this damage on the Eastern frontline. And during this war Soviets never had as many casualties on one frontline during 1 week as Normandy landing. Talking about winning by sheer number of people and not by any good tactics or strategy. Normandy landing fits this description. It was stupid waste of life only for political reasons to get to Berlin faster than Soviets. And even then, Soviets took Berlin and war was over.

[@OfficialVortexHD]

You don't seem to have a clue. Of course they learned, just like they are learning now, and that's why the Russians are doing well tactically, in contrast to 2022. They learned from their mistakes in the same way in World War II. You can easily read about it if you look into it, which is never really done. What you're saying is, as always, the ignorant nonsense that every "expert" who has his own narrative spouts. And if you can't get out of your narrative, then you're lost anyway.

[@markheithaus]

​@@MrZlocktar He's right. The sheer numbers of vehicles, weapons, money and so much more that the Soviet Union received from the US alone shouldn't be downplayed. The numbers are staggering. And Germany MIGHT not have attacked if it hadn't been for the Soviet Union's horrible performance in the Winter War against little Finland. AND the war might not have happened if the Soviet Union had simply opposed Germany from the beginning. But no, the Soviet Union helped start the war in 1939. The USSR lost 27 million people with tons of help in a war they helped start. Yeah, brilliant.

[@kopzukusaft]

This is the most biased shit i read in a loooong long time. Holy shit how ignorant and incompetent can a sentence be? There are so many books and works from actual historians about soviet tactics and strategies that worked absolutely well. Even Memoirs of German officers mentioned the strength of the soviet soldiers. Military has to be seen in an objective way. It doesn't matter if you like the nation behind the army. Damn do you people even think a second before typing nonsense like this?

[@Silentbob515]

The amount of bots in the comments tells you all you need to know

[@ArunSingh-iw4wu]

Bullshit analysis.

[@HNH421]

SO NICE TO LEARN the solution to positional warfare in ww1 was the Russian invention for the TANK Russia number one big 🤏🤍💙💔