TNA's Greatest EMBARRASSMENT At Victory Road 2011 (This Week In History Pt. 2)

[@vsmith1688]

Apparently Brain threatened to walk out of WCW if they didn't allow him to pay tribute to Monsoon on Nitro after he died. A true friend.

[@ninjacape]

I met Jeff Hardy at the TNA fan fest in Philly a few months after Victory Road and swear he was on a different planet than everyone else in the room that day.

[@ant4158]

I could imagine Bobby Heenan if he had a podcast "Hello humanoids"

[@ShaunTheCHB]

That would have been pure gold.

[@aldibiase3612]

Yea I like that and would have a "Ham n Egger" award too

[@chrisf2471]

@@aldibiase3612 beat me to it call the podcast “The Ham and Egger Podcast”

[@aye_its_karate6169]

A "will you stop" (in honor of Gorilla) segment where he craps on the new product.

[@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA]

TNA management was their biggest problem...Starting with that on air meeting Dixie had with the talent..Things went downhill from that point..

[@adamcarl46]

It's still mind boggling to me how sting refused a match vs undertaker at wrestlemania 27 for a disastrous match vs Jeff hardy at victory road.

[@chrisf2471]

Undertaker didn’t want match

[@kfire2567]

@@chrisf2471 and Sting didn't know Jeff Hardy would show up high off his bean.

[@adamcarl46]

@@chrisf2471 it was actually wwe who offered sting a match vs undertaker and a hall of fame induction and it was sting who rejected the offer.

[@adamcarl46]

@@kfire2567 jeff hardy Shouldn't have even been allowed into the arena to compete.

[@chrisf2471]

@@adamcarl46 no one ever policed anything in Dixie-land

[@notoriousrjg9257]

Now 8 months later here we are again with Jeff

[@abrahamfarraj84]

I'm just glad Jeff Hardy found a way to come back from this stage of his life. He was in a BAD way.

[@thattimestampguy]

0:00 March 13, 2004 - The WWE Hall of Fame inducts many superstars and a celebrity. *Bobby Heenan* 3:19 WrestleMania XX - "Where it all begins...again" *Brock Lesnar - Left after being The Next Big Thing, The Biggest Push* 7:59 TNA's 2011 Victory Road Catastrophe, Jeff Hardy vs Sting 18:30 Recent Historic Event

[@TheJSexton24]

Induct this man into the Solomonster Hall of Fame

[@mothra__13]

Thank you!

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

I feel that the biggest wrestling moment that we've been deprived of, during Covid-19, is The Undertaker's retirement (?) thirty years to the date that he debuted, as well as at the very event that he made his debut. Having a crowd there would've been beyond awesome! The things that we take for granted, right!?

[@bdr113080]

Great episode of this week in wrestling history. A couple things I want to point out number one is about the four Horsemen parity and I have seen so many people talk about how they hate Kevin Nash and the other and WO members for doing that, for starters it wasn’t any of their idea. That was a Terry Taylor idea. Also did those same people that were so upset were they just as pissed off when Steve Austin and Brian Pillman did a four Horsemen parody and Mock them and their age? The other thing that I wanted to comment on was the Jeff Hardy incident. He’s right it’s really sad that no one there stepped up and just grabbed Jeff but the saddest part is that if you listen to Eric Bischoff‘s podcast and I think Bruce Prichard has said this too, Dixie Carter, the one running the show was standing right there with everyone and just didn’t say or do anything. She was standing There like a plant, just something in the background and she didn’t say a word.

[@jacobdonnelly27]

I actually paid full price for that PPV at the time. Thank god it was the last one.

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

I think that it's so cool and such a testament to the amount of respect that Gorilla Monsoon commands, that no matter what wrestling company that it is, that one area behind the curtain is known as "The Gorilla Position". That's love right there. 👏👏👏

[@ShaunTheCHB]

The Hall of Fame revival was a pretty good line up. I remember my parents being very interested in it when they came out on stage and yes I also bought the dvd when it hit stores. To see the ceremony was interesting for a one off viewing. But the dvd extras were the real meat in the sandwich. Great bonus matches and footage. TNA should not have allowed Hardy to go out to the ring. They could have filmed something that took him out of the match and came up with a good replacement match. Have RVD and Anderson take him out backstage or something like that.

[@Nandoazul1119]

My two favorite hall of fame speeches are Bobby the Brain and Bret Hart! I have never been so entertained just by listening to old wrestling stories! Bobby Heenan made me cry! Definitely one of the most emotional speeches of all time!

[@vbadger1056]

Best thing about victory road was it was the wake-up call Jeff needed to clean up his act and he’s been clean from drugs since that night

[@deadalivestore]

Can't wait for four years time when Solo is talking about how AEW shit the bed.

[@raynwolfsbane2084]

Sting was a really good sport about Jeff. I wouldn't have been so forgiving.

[@bigdaddycool28716]

I don't know how Jeff has gotten so many chances in his career

[@g-dub5272]

Back then I didn’t knew Goldberg and Brock were gonna leave. I got so hyped for that match, I always thought Brock was a Goldberg wannabe at the time

[@constablekennedy7705]

Jeff Hardy was Hilarious whilst Taunting the Fans with the T-Shirt and Tazz on Commentary was Awesome ... 💀

[@kierenbuckley370]

he also tortured us with that ugly Jeff Hardy TNA title

[@juansanchez209]

Sting should’ve broke Jeff’s back, bent him over, and made him humble in the middle of that ring. I like Jeff a lot, but that was one of the most shameful performances in major pro wrestling history.

[@sochioranmyaku]

That PPV is such a shame. It’s not like I was really following TNA at the time but what a legit main event for a show. Sober Jeff Hardy vs Sting could have been very memorable.

[@screamrad218]

That’s a money match right there. But damn if Jeff wasn’t on the drugs then the match would’ve been way better.

[@samoanjoseph1457]

I love how the story at Victory Road is people saw Jeff was messed up when he got there, everyone waits for a decision to be made, Eric can't because it's not his job, and Jeff of all people says, "F it, I'm going out" and walks out to his music.

[@kierenbuckley370]

I still remember watching Victory Road 2011, it was soo bad and I stopped watching TNA every week

[@constablekennedy7705]

I still hoped that WWE would’ve Booked Sting Versus Jeff Hardy at a SummerSlam to get a Proper Build and Match for those Two on a Big Stage ...

[@screamrad218]

I would’ve loved to see that match in WWE. I still need closure from the shitshow that was Victory Road 2011.

[@deadwafflez9685]

Gorilla and Heenan are the best. "Would you stop?!"

[@edalder2000]

Heenan and Monsoon remind me of an old saying that the best comedies and parodies are that way because the comedians truly love the subject they are lampooning.

[@Donald_Allan]

We could have had Undertaker vs Sting. Instead we got Triple H vs Undertaker which was alright and Sting vs Jeff Hardy which was just abysmal. In fact I think it will be the one moment in Sting's career that he will look back on with huge regret.

[@madddoggnogood1491]

Taker never wanted the match. Thats why he stayed

[@Donald_Allan]

@@madddoggnogood1491 He never stated that he never wanted the match and back in 2011 the video packages hinted towards that match at wrestlemania 27. However Sting re-signed with TNA and the rest is history. Regarding not wanting the match. He wouldn't want it now because he knows he can't deliver the same caliber level of match he once used to. Here is an excert of his interview with the Comic Book from 2020 where he is asked the question of a match between him and Sting. " What do you say to the fans who, to this day, still hold out hope for a match between you and Sting? Well, in this world, you never say never, but I think as great as it sounds on paper... And it does, I mean obviously that is a super marquee match, right? But where I kind of differ from a lot of people is I look past the marquee value and I look on the ability to deliver. So like you said, there's so many people that are clamoring for that match that I just don't know that the match could deliver on the people's expectations. And the only reason I say that, I'll take full [responsibility], I don't have the mobility or the same skill set that I once did that I would need to make that match great. So there's just certain things, it's better left to the theater of the mind to actually put it out there. And then with the expectations being so high and the match not delivering, it would be a bigger disappointment than the match never happening at all. It's different, but in the same sense of like who's the greatest: [Michael] Jordan or LeBron [James]? I mean, you're never going to know because they're never going to have the opportunity to play against each other. And it's the same thing. That's a great match, but 10 years ago I think it could still happen and it could still be a stellar match. I'm just not sure at this point that it could deliver on the hype."

[@madddoggnogood1491]

@@Donald_Allan Taker never wanted the match then either . that match wasn't guaranteed even if sting signed.

[@Donald_Allan]

@@madddoggnogood1491 Can you provide evidence from a credible source where Undertaker specifically stated that he never wanted to face sting at wrestlemania 27?

[@madddoggnogood1491]

@@Donald_Allan yes . His past statements going back 20 years ago. People have been bugging him about this since wcw closed. Undertaker never wanted to wrestle sting. If he did...it would have happened. Taker has enough stroke with vince to request tons make that happen if he wanted. The truth is....the fans wanted that match, sting wanted that match undertaker never wanted that match... Look at lashley vs Lesnar.......if Lesnar wanted that match it would have happened by now.

[@addi543]

That showed how far Jeff had fallen. A few years prior, Jeff Hardy was main eventing PPVs over DX, Orton, Cena and Batista. He got far more opportunity than Punk and/or Bryan ever got, and it seemed like he was the closest anyone got to overtaking Cena as WWEs top star at the time, and he decided to piss it away for drugs.

[@tashrif46]

8:45 I feel bad for Sting. He's been part of some of the infamous moments in wrestling history. Starrcade 97 and Victory Road 2011 are just top on the list. And the worst part is, he was at fault for neither of them

[@Ian-Omega]

You don’t have to guess what Bischoff said to them, they played all the audio on the Hardy’s wwe network doc.

[@gaipontiff2]

Couldn't agree more Solomonster. #1 Hall of Fame speech belongs to Bobby Heenan. My second favorite happened a year later with The Iron Sheik's speech.

[@sonicheroxd5767]

That Victory Road PPV as a whole was a HORRIBLE show, but that main event is what solidified it as one of the worst PPVs in wrestling history.

[@DJVm4GOD1]

I think what I loved about afterwards with the Jeff situation, was that they turned it into an angle of sorts. With the idea that Jeff fucked up and let everyone down, and needed to make amends. While sure he was with Immortal beforehand, so that could explain it. But still.

[@DJVm4GOD1]

Wrestlemania 20 was my first Wrestlemania as a fan. It's mad to think a few years, I'd match that number in terms of Wrestlemanias. When Wrestlemania 40 comes round. Mad for me to think about.

[@watersandblue6001]

I always doubt if Cena would be where he is today if Brock would have stayed in 2004.

[@LukesYuGiOhChannel]

Sums up TNA.

[@TheVampirePredator]

A Heenan podcast would not have worked even in the infancy of podcasts because the throat cancer already killed his voice.

[@jaynyce5923]

Victory Road 2009 vs Victory Road 2011... Which was worse? 🤔🤔🤔

[@jacobdonnelly27]

I'd say 09 was probably the worst PPV overall (especially cause of that HORRENDOUS Jenna vs Sharmmel match) but the ending to 11 was easily the most embarrassing TNA moment ever.

[@ericcartridge1361]

I bet Hardy would have put on a great match completely blasted. I drive better when I'm drunk!

[@TheBlakkEra]

I Miss Benoit man 😓 he was my favorite wrestler . I was only 10 when the murder happened

[@earvinlewis1]

I was officially done with tna after that!

[@jasonjimerson7046]

What was Bischoff's job in TNA? Dixie Carter's fluffer.

[@theothesir]

Bobby Heenan on a podcast with Corny would be legendary.

[@millionfish]

Monsoon died from diabetes.

[@TheSolomonster]

Heart failure, actually

[@lesliefarlow5734]

I think Hardy was fucked up on Soma's lol Old Tna thinking they were going to hire Hogan & start a Revolution when they already had AJ Styles,Joe, Christopher Daniels, Beer Money. Crazy I went to a house show & got autographs from everyone but blew off this small tag team, little did I know about 3 years later they became 1 of the most over teams ever the Young Bucks

[@ninjacape]

They should have made Brock and Goldberg a 3 way with Austin. Austin stuns and pins both in 30 seconds and then announces his retirement. Retiring a hero with a proper send off.

[@MVP7689]

Gotta remember that WWE wouldn't clear Austin the year before. Literally couldn't have happened

[@ninjacape]

@@MVP7689 That’s why I said 30 seconds. He stunned both of them anyway.