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[@cebeast403]

Thanks Todd! I'm headed out to the workshop to do exactly this to my Night Moves

[@stanhristov]

Thank you Todd and for all your good videos and hard work.

[@tntamusements]

Our pleasure!

[@DAYBREAKER1980]

Thanks for all these awesome tips videos and the amazing work you guys do for these classic machines. ^^

[@tntamusements]

You're welcome!! This tip should fix a few hundred games over this weekend!!

[@tannerwalters2756]

You are the Man, Todd! Thank you for your videos! Hope to see you at Expo in the fall (2022!).

[@Eastsidepinball]

Thanks Todd! Hopefully I can get this old Bounty Hunter up and running again properly.

[@willhunt696]

GOD Bless you Todd, this TYPE of video is what the world needs; of coarse Frank joking with you is what makes it truly Funny! Keep up the WONDERFUL work. Will Hunt Gaithersburg MD.

[@tntamusements]

Thank you Will! We appreciate your comment!!

[@xaos2012]

Thank you for this mod my gold wings is so much brighter and plays like new now!!!! I know I told you in a different video but I had to say it on this one since it's the video that helped me out . Thank you so much and love your channel and I will spread the word . Let's get you up to 1m subs !

[@tntamusements]

Thank you!! We all appreciate it!!

[@filthyrichandflameingknigh1256]

Bec Todd is the expert Master one the grand masters of knowledge 👍😊. Btw I'm going to check to see if this fixes my new problem on my new Genesis pinball I got come some lights that are very faint when I was playing game tonight. I was mind boggling it was fading before my eyes play Field lights. I'm going bed figure this out tomorrow. Todd like make more system 80b videos on connects and wire fixes

[@toddschaap674]

I have the Cubs triple play pinball machine and love it. I enjoy all things Cubs. As the game progresses with a ball in action the score board goes out. The sounds and game keep working as usual. You can not see your score nor other scores for multiple players. Please help - will this fix that issue? -Schaaper

[@TheCurtisnixon]

always give Curtis a raise.

[@TheAaron3dg]

Thank you! Very handy to have a video guide

[@BenLaurence]

What gauge wire do you use for the new wire? Also what was that little thing you used to scratch up the side?

[@GameplayandTalk]

Thanks for making this video. I have a System 80B game that is giving me all sorts of problems and it sounds like based on what I have read it could be related to grounding. I still have the molex connectors on the game so I have high hopes doing this fix will correct some of the problems.

[@tntamusements]

Austin Mackert Yes...it probably will!

[@GameplayandTalk]

TNT Amusements Inc Good news! It seems some of the issues I was having have resolved themselves after doing this fix (the biggest being random game resets and the sound cutting out). Thanks again!

[@mrdss]

Hi Todd, Will this work on my Genesis? Thanks, Love you channel. I wish you were closer to Salt Lake City!

[@mcees3345]

Thanks for showing and no thumbs down either so w2g Todd!

[@tntamusements]

Eventually we have a thumbs down from some troll---I just wish they would simply NOT watch our videos!

[@edptrs9040]

This was already done to my Victory when I got it. Thanks!

[@tntamusements]

Great!

[@marcelcevani5688]

Hi from Germany. Got my first pin. It's a tx sector ❤️. Have much trouble with it, I will do this fix.. Thanks 🙂

[@that_pinball_metal_dood169]

Terrific video! I was wondering what larger gage wire size is recommended? (The new bit of wire tied on to the bundle of wires)Thanks!

[@tntamusements]

you should try to use 16...but 18 will be fine also

[@xXmysterio32Xx]

Love this series! I'm starting to go about my first restoration on a Williams High Speed, but can't find much reliable information on the right way to test the machine with a multimeter. Is there any chance we could see a video on testing boards on Pinball machines? :)

[@tntamusements]

As we get time, we try to fit in the videos. We had to do the ground mod on this ROCK and we had spare time to film it. It then took me perhaps 90 more minutes to edit/title/add clips/research the games it fixes and upload it. The end result is a video helps people, but it actually does not bring in any income for us. So this type of video has to be done when I can squeeze it in. Most of our videos do offer pointers and tips we squeeze in here and there! Keep watching!!

[@dgriff2290]

Thanks for doing this video! My wife and I own a Rock and I really want to do this ground mod! Do you guys have a preferred place to buy the parts you've shown in the video? More specifically, the heavier stranded wire, solderless lugs, and grey/red wire nuts? Cheers

[@tntamusements]

You can buy everything from Home Depot or Lowes including the stranded wire...but a couple feet of heavy lamp wire...thats stranded and you can easily cut it down!

[@dgriff2290]

Went out and got the goods and already have a (possibly numb-nuts) question: I bought this wire. www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/1000/3c/3c4aa547-3e7a-47d1-8a95-e973726abd21_1000.jpg -> but it's copper. Is it alright to mix this w/ the wiring of Rock?

[@PsyDin_]

Question, what exactly is "re-heating" the power supply and logic board? Tried googling and couldn't really find anything, I may have an 80b soon and don't have much exp with pinball machines (just game controller boards and PCs) and I'd rather not screw it up.

[@tntamusements]

It means the header pins are reflowed with new solder... The original solder tends to crack at the base causing possible intermittent connections.

[@PsyDin_]

@@tntamusements oh cool that makes sense, thanks for that

[@Crucifuxrecords]

Thank you Todd ! Very helpfull as usual...

[@tntamusements]

Glad it helped!

[@ABWard-ri7uu]

Hey Todd (I'm new to pin repairing) when you say the power supply and daughter board needs to be reheated. Does that mean just reflow the solder?

[@tntamusements]

+alexander ward yes...all the solder pads that have the header pins all get "cold"!

[@jolypg]

Do you have a vid on how to do this....im a novice with pins....i did have a problem with one of my pop bumpers originally....it worked intermittently then stopped....the Coil seems to be ok...checked the resistance....

[@tntamusements]

Sadly, no we do not.

[@uzi1951]

Tod, would you please tell me exactly the name and model of wire strippers that you used and where to purchase that and the fiberglass burnishing tool. I have a tiny pen type I bought from Wico and my Molex stripper, cutter doesn't work as well as yours.

[@compu85]

Looks like a combo stripper / cutter you can get at most home improvement stores and Radio Shack. I have an Ideal branded set I got at Lowes.

[@uzi1951]

Thank you

[@SwedishEmpire1700]

Any such tips for Gottlieb System 80's too? like Volcano?

[@tntamusements]

+Luzur When we have time, will try to do something like this!

[@SwedishEmpire1700]

Please do, i got a Volcano a week ago and any modding tips for it is just great.

[@jolypg]

good video, I am having problems with my machine, when in diags mode everything seems to work, but when I play no ball kickout and I cant select more than one player....I will try this mod to see what happens....Tks Todd

[@tntamusements]

your problem sounds like a switch line rather than a coil...possibly a wire broken off one of the playfield switches (they loop 6 to 8 in a line) or a blown switch line. Usually its the switch line associated with the lane change switch.

[@kuneytercero]

Hello, I would like to know if I can do it with a Gottlieb Excalibur, greetings and thanks for so many good videos and sorry for my English

[@tntamusements]

Glad you like the videos....the excalibur I think as the long molex connectors...an upgrade...you can do it differently...no wire cutting...instead, take off the two boards mounted to the side of the transformer, and reflow new solder on all the header pins...they are cracked, but not as badly as the older style plug...its possible ONE pin may be burned in those 4 connectors...simply moe that pin and wire to an unused spot in connector (replacing the pin in the connector too), so it makes a good ground from a DIFFERENT part of the connector!

[@kuneytercero]

Thank you very much, I'll bother you again with any other questions

[@davidcarper314]

"Hilaricrimping" from Molex/Waldom Group. llc.

[@alistaircg76]

can I do this on a bad girls, my flippers wont work on mine and one pop bumper

[@tntamusements]

I think Bad Girls has individual wires going to the transformer on bottom, but each wire has its own pin. Check and make sure NONE of the pins appear burned...if they are, change those pins. Also, the little satellite board on the logic board always has ice cold solder connections on it...its tricky to reheat though, but that usually solves boatload of intermittent problems too.

[@needavirus]

Interresting, I'm actually do that on my Big House. I laught a lot with the "Todd's Tits" ^^ Nice ambiance in your workplace, I love it :-)

[@tntamusements]

needavirus Love Big House...rarely seen!! The guys laugh extra loud when they look at their paychecks!

[@needavirus]

TNT Amusements Inc Rarely Seen ? It's pretty frequent here in Europe. (I'm From Belgium.) If you want, I'll send you pictures when it's done 100% ;-)

[@ericjackson1455]

Hilarious! Serious question though. Can this ground mod fix my issue? Have a Hollywood Heat that plays great but every once in a while I get a random beep or out of place sound effect. Voltage is steady at 4.99v and never dropped below 4.97 during a game.

[@tntamusements]

***** tRY IT...IT CANNOT HURT!

[@SagePatrynXX]

see working inside a computer (DESKTOP!!!) and a pinball game this is all familiar to me. although I've worked on things that give you a shock as well. (something that rhymes with tit -- ahem bad wiring in houses is how I learned to do stuff. although putting on a copper wire counter clockwise is inherently stupid (oops) which is why I like the holes on the new outlets/switches. but not that you've given me the proper area to crimp the above (oh thats why that never works) next tip is how to properly solder something or de solder. I could watch someone else on youtube but they are either in the wrong accent or so dry I can't pay attention X_X (Thanks Curt for keeping me alert )

[@cedricgirouin9144]

hi i have a robowar, is it possible to do the same tips with this pinball?

[@tntamusements]

cédric girouin Absolutely...watch our 2 Robowars videos!

[@cedricgirouin9144]

TNT Amusements Inc oh sorry i look just one. Exellent

[@ForkLiftCertified]

Greetings from pinside Todd.

[@tntamusements]

Yes!! D the Pinsiders still love me??

[@jolypg]

arrg, the mod was already done....on my Genesis machine....now one of the kick outs wont stop kicking out.....

[@tntamusements]

definitely a shorted switch line!

[@lylejohnson7591]

I think so many grounds caused a ground loop problem. It has been a long time since I was in electronics and that was back in tube and transistor era.

[@tntamusements]

I short and to the point letter to Gottlieb is in order (and also Rockwell, who designed the boards)---but they are BANKRUPT now! GONE! ... CREEPS!!! :-)

[@gallimead]

Freaked, when you just cut all those wires, without noting them down. Called down, after I realised they where all ground wires. What a sloppy way to ground a machine. I wonder who passed that at Gottlieb??

[@tntamusements]

They should get FIRED!!! Actually, the entire system was developed by Rockwell Electronics---the same company that does all the electronics for spaceships for NASA

[@gallimead]

You should call up Gottliebs support line, and give them hell!!

[@lylejohnson1093]

TNT Amusements Inc I feel sorry for NASA.

[@k5steel]

NUTTY LETTERS PLEASE!

[@tntamusements]

maybe when I am not going crazy getting these games done!