Corrections: [4:52] Timbre should be pronounced like "tamber" (tăm′bər) instead of "timber". [12:33] Due to contradictory references to the Daisy Bell recording in whether the synthesis was done on the IBM 7094, 704, or 7090, it is possible[author's conjecture] that the synthesis was demonstrated on multiple computers throughout its development. However, there is concrete evidence that it was at least demonstrated on the 7090, as stated by developers John Larry Kelly Jr. and Carol C. Lochbaum at a 1962 congress.[3]. [12:33] Although this segment is about the source-filter model, the model that synthesised Daisy Bell was actually either an "artificial vocal tract" (as described by Kelly and Lochbaum in 1962. Kenmochi Hideki called it an "acoustic tube model" in 2014[4]) or a "terminal analog" (Kelly and Lochbaum in 1962). Both comprised of a large database of parameters that applied ad-hoc rules given a sequence of phonemes, pitches, and timings, with the first model using articulatory parameters (e.g. nasal, labial) while the second used acoustic parameters.[3] While both it and the Voder were products of Bell Labs, the two had limited further relation. junferno.com/corrections/#list-1
@jackpumpoen2 жыл бұрын
what is the plural of vertex?
@asherasher92492 жыл бұрын
Fourier is also pronounced /four ee ay/ instead of /four ee ur/ because french people
@HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA2 жыл бұрын
vertices (VER-ti-sees)
@28add112 жыл бұрын
Edwin made you do this didn't he
@EdenLippmann2 жыл бұрын
Just want to point out that timbre is a french word, so blame them.
@EdenLippmann2 жыл бұрын
The most incredible thing about the Fourier transform is how it's simultaneously passionately celebrated and utterly despised by everyone who uses it. It's so powerful and versatile, yet so horrible to work with.
@ungrave52312 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first saw it just how much I despised the thing... yuck.
@紺野-純子2 жыл бұрын
this
@btCharlie_2 жыл бұрын
Fourier transform is the OG love-hate relationship
@prezentoappr11712 жыл бұрын
@@btCharlie_ og teacher for me is 3blue1brown cant get wrong with mathematic tag of booru god bless rail programming lang
@valshaped2 жыл бұрын
Fourier transforms and regular expressions
@natalyacat2 жыл бұрын
the "听不懂“ floating across the screen on the chinese/bilibili bit of the video made me choke on my toast thank u. the way u incorporate humor into all the educational bits is fantastic and is why this is rapidly becoming my favorite youtube channel even though i know next to nothing about computer science. also jesus christ the ending had me losing it LMAOOOOOO
@ur1c3hu332 жыл бұрын
What does it mean?
@pacopoko2 жыл бұрын
@@ur1c3hu33 "cant understand what your saying"
@Catsrnice_2 жыл бұрын
@@pacopoko best part is that its said in chinese too 听不懂 (ting bu dong) instead of the traditional tingbudong meme for non chinese speakers
@pacopoko2 жыл бұрын
@@Catsrnice_ i dont know if its a meme and i also cant quite comprehend what your saying
@DanteEhome2 жыл бұрын
I found his Bilibili channel, and suprisingly he had very few views. I guess Chinese are too busy to understand his humor.
@sangyoonsim2 жыл бұрын
24 minutes on how to become a Vocaloid? Can't miss.
@LetrixAR2 жыл бұрын
Actually less
@jas-39802 жыл бұрын
Make an utau then make it have a vocaloid level voicebank
@ruroruro2 жыл бұрын
24 minutes to get Bad Appl'd
@aflvproductions78542 жыл бұрын
My exact thoughts
@Spaghetti7422 жыл бұрын
@@ruroruro 24 minutes to make a king cover
@22pops2 жыл бұрын
not only is the music you used boosting my respect, but i feel like you're one of the only people who has talked about vocaloid + other singing synthesizers and gets literally nothing wrong. misinformation is a very prevalent thing in our community and it makes me feel happy that there isn't any in this! thank you for your work on this :D
@fourplusoneissix25002 жыл бұрын
Technical education is temporary, mikudayo is forever
@okite3743 ай бұрын
mikudayooo
@fcantil2 жыл бұрын
I love how this guy starts explaining things from the very beginning of everything about sound and then also goes to explain the history of Vocaloid. Great work, Junferno! ...And of course, you can't have a Junferno video without Bad Apple.
@gaemer39672 жыл бұрын
Ending fucking killed me, I was seriously debating how technology is the point of life in my head only to get blasted by bad apple when I least expected it 😅
@jody56612 жыл бұрын
I was sitting there waiting to see if he was going to take it seriously or pull a stunt and then when it faded to Black I thought we were done it was so perfect
@snowman49332 жыл бұрын
you least expected that? That was my most anticipated part
@ithinkpaulmightbehavinastr88782 жыл бұрын
@@snowman4933 they seem to be new to the channel
@snowman49332 жыл бұрын
@@ithinkpaulmightbehavinastr8878 yeah, maybe
@eggsdraws2 жыл бұрын
He's a genius.
@amalgamidol2 жыл бұрын
as someone who's been involved in the vocaloid/utau community for a very very very long time this video fucks. there's a lot of misinfo and bad coverage of basically every modern singing synthesis program so it's dope seeing something made by someone who cares enough to parse the arcane mess that is UTAU. also ty for konnan janai at the end
@calupoh97882 жыл бұрын
2:33 there's so many great quotable moments in this video, but I lost it at "A pipe organ is similar to a piano, except for the fact that none of the parts are the same" for some reason great video man, hope you're having a good year so far!
@aryanravi81642 жыл бұрын
An unnatural natural pipe organ, also known as a pipe organ
@finnclegg95262 жыл бұрын
"the pipe is in the shape of a misshapen pipe"
@fatitankeris63272 жыл бұрын
The keysare _simmilar,_ at least.
@andnekon2 жыл бұрын
"can't find any citation for sonic feet, I wonder why"
@stephaniegenso2 жыл бұрын
“artificial intelligence isn’t intelligence and the world isn’t a simulation”
@ehsome2 жыл бұрын
at 23:52 the subtitles say "[Epic funny " i really like the artistic choice of having only one bracket. also adds to the humor
@Grayr Жыл бұрын
Because at the end there "Bad Apple]"
@Christer22222 жыл бұрын
No matter how many Junferno videos I watch, the Bad Apple always catches me off guard even when I am thinking about it. I love the humor in these.
@ChessedGamon2 жыл бұрын
How to get into computer science: develop an obsession with anime women so crippling you turn to developing simulations to get as close as possible to one.
@pinkhead68578902 жыл бұрын
I thought it was desperately trying to script kitty your way out of solving a real math problem after failing calculus.
@skepticmoderate57902 жыл бұрын
@@pinkhead6857890 sympy
@lunafoxfire2 жыл бұрын
@@pinkhead6857890 script kitty lol
@whoisabishag34332 жыл бұрын
Where Do I Sign Up
@infiniteplanes57752 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I’m not the only one. Chess algorithms are the closest thing humans have made to sentience by the way
@aquilazyy11252 жыл бұрын
11:46 I really like how you can see him gradually becomes more aggressive when he says that.
@adrien55682 жыл бұрын
Junferno: "we get a sawtooth wave." Me: "Oh no no no." Junferno: proceeds to destroy my ears.
@QweRinatrtY2 жыл бұрын
i guess you saw it coming, huh
@ltva87812 жыл бұрын
Wait why it sounds horrible for you Oh yeah you haven't listened to chiptunes for 2 years...
@fishstick19002 жыл бұрын
@@tanawatjukmongkol2178 Jokes on you I'm so used to my terrible sound design that even pure saw sounds pleasant to me. I wish that was a joke.
@otesunki2 жыл бұрын
@@tanawatjukmongkol2178 pure saws sound perfectly fine to me aaaaaaAAAAAA
@Penguin_Spy2 жыл бұрын
you perfectly balanced teaching about the history, math, music, and physics required to explain vocaloids without over- or under-explaining, and then ended it off with an existential crisis turned Bad Apple!!, brilliant. your sense of humor and timing makes for really entertaining and engaging videos that never disappoint, 👍
@johnr47242 жыл бұрын
When there’s hatsune miku in the thumbnail But there’s also calculus
@enderphoenix112 жыл бұрын
Mood but have you also considered, 「Calc.」ft. Hatsune Miku ?
@svetlana41332 жыл бұрын
Makes me wanna get a vocaloid Software and write a song about calculus
@ultimatedragon42812 жыл бұрын
@@svetlana4133 Please do. And post it.
@svetlana41332 жыл бұрын
@@ultimatedragon4281 lmao alright
@devd_rx2 жыл бұрын
I love both
@maokus2 жыл бұрын
7:03 Slight error, the lowest frequency is not necessarily the fundamental frequency. There exists subharmonic frequencies (or undertones) which are difficult to obtain but exist nonetheless.
@unowenwasholo2 жыл бұрын
Dude, wtf. The blank screen at 22:19 broke me. I was able to follow like a tenth of what was happening up to then, but my brain started freaking out when the visuals suddenly stopped. Putting that aside, along with almost everything about organs, incredibly informative and good crash course in the underlying fundamentals of what in the heck voice synthesizing software even does. I think. I only understood a tenth of it, but I feel smarter! Dunning-Kruger Effect, here I come!
@marcuschiong3062 жыл бұрын
at 22:19 is he taking about NFTs
@415-k1ub2 жыл бұрын
Damn I didn't know that the UTAU software hasn't been updated since 2013. I recently looked up some UTAU stuff and found some new voicebank showcase videos, in 2022. For the Vocaloid scene, it's not as big as it used to be, but there's definitely some popular producers within it as well as new and rising producers.
@boysdokraja2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you just explained pretty much the entirety of music. As always, great video!
@goombizdvorakkiewicz52262 жыл бұрын
Except for rhythm. Rhythm is when you play frequencies at a pretedetermined rate. It can be syncopated if you're into Math Rock.
@prezentoappr11712 жыл бұрын
@@goombizdvorakkiewicz5226 polyrhytm nightmare with a musician of my classmate; Common and ah sorry forgor the english terms "FPB dan KPK" god bless mr incredible meme with music meme and the demisemihemidemisemi---...quaver guy
@DrSaav-my5ym2 жыл бұрын
really? the entirety of music? what does that even mean?
@peachpink2831 Жыл бұрын
@@DrSaav-my5ym the entire video? What sound is, which combinations of sounds are pleasurable to the ears, chord progressions, how sounds are produced, organically and digitally, how different instrument makes different sounds and its contributions, the science of each notes itself, vocals, vocal synthesis, history of modern music production.
@amalgamidol2 жыл бұрын
just wanted to mention (since its brought up in the footnotes) that VCCV utau voicebanks use the same basic logic as CVVC voicebanks. they're named differently because, at least for english, they use different aliasing systems to represent each phoneme. for other languages, different names are used so individual methods can be told apart bc they all have to be used a little differently
@dirtyduck69872 жыл бұрын
After watching the whole video and considering the combined value of the consumed media, I came to the conclusion that this very video is not only quiet comidically plesureable to watch, frankly I dare to say it was even the most humorous work of art I came across all month, but also emensly intriguing, conserning the presentation and informational value of the subject at hand which leads me to say that this faboulously executed pictorial production is easily to be greatly recommended to everyone and valued as a sheer perfect use of your time, what makes it all the more frustrating to see, that seemingly only a handful of people are going to watch it and I really hope more people are going to find there way to this very recommendable youtube chanal. Applause
@ongyuxuan69892 жыл бұрын
This is literally a good summary of what music and audio is. What I've learnt throughout the years was summarized into just a single half hour video, which is just impressive. Junferno really did a great job right here, a bit unfortunate that most musicians or producers probably won't even notice this video
@koharaisevo36662 жыл бұрын
I has to say this channel only has 80000 subs is a crime.
@noun67062 жыл бұрын
Chanal💀 Awesome paragraph!
@qwerty2732 жыл бұрын
That was the most readable, and pleasurable paragraph I've read... then you spelled channel wrong...
@hahasamian80102 жыл бұрын
With the sheer verbosity of this statement, I feel like the misspellings, which trigger my OCD, cannot be a mistake, and must have been intentionally placed to irritate people such as myself, who would read such a statement but find the misspellings uncanny.
@xmus40232 жыл бұрын
As a music producer of 5 years and counting, this is by far the most comprehensive understanding of music theory and production I have ever seen. Concise and understandable enough to fully flesh out the fundamental physical concepts underpinning the whole art form. It is insane.
@psychicberry2 жыл бұрын
6:18 "complex sounds such as sentences" *crank that lyrics* 8:44 references skrillex rap battle.. which i could sub twice
@sykes1024 Жыл бұрын
15:45 "Utau is japanese for sing, but it's also japanese for english for japanese for that UTAU is a singing synthesizer" Lost my shit
@antoinepins83222 жыл бұрын
This is again a masterpiece, this is what humanity needed (I am looking at you e turning into kirby with the best version of bad apple ever created in the background)
@harukilol727 Жыл бұрын
The mention of what CV, VCV and CVVC was really nice, because I researched a little to know what it is, but gave up some time after Teto is nice And the Bad Apple caught me off-guard KSKSKEK
@Faulheit2 жыл бұрын
the scripts on these videos are so well redacted it's insane lmao
@a52productions2 жыл бұрын
1:56 based septimal intervals Also!! I tried to implement a LPC source-filter myself, in python. I could never get the linear algebra to work quite right unfortunately, so it just made noise. But I might come back to it later some point.
@christophsiebert12132 жыл бұрын
All the history of music and Vocaloid only to end up again in Bad Apple. Junferno truly is a constant in our lifes. Never change, my dude. You're awesome.
@jno72 жыл бұрын
I am so glad KZbin recommended me this Video, because YOU ARE MY NEW FAVOURITE INTERNET PERSONALITY! No srsly this Video made my day I can now happily sleep! ^ -^ Please keep up the fantastic work.
@DocJade2 жыл бұрын
I watched the entire video, and probably only retained 1% of the insane research he shared cant wait to watch this again and retain another 1%! amazing video as always
@endlessboardgame9852 жыл бұрын
A full 1%? Impressive, given how much went over my head.
@avazimbokaluky13352 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I love the way you explain everything in a way that is understandable and also confusing in a way that makes the viewer want to research each topic after watching the video
@problemszzz22692 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this might be my favorite video. Although i should've expected the ending you still caught me off guard
@ydoomenaud Жыл бұрын
At Anime Expo 2010, I attended a panel run by the Yamaha engineer then responsible for Vocaloid. He went into detail on how the software worked, pointing out the challenges of monastic chants in Latin, and as a graphic designer I couldn't avoid noticing the parallels between how proportional fonts use ligature tables/kerning pairs for aesthetic exceptions to standard letterspacing, and how Vocaloids concatenate specific phoneme pairs in its banks to sound more natural. I pointed out that Japan was already experimenting with physical-mechanical simulations of the vocal cords, tongue and lips for speech synthesis, so I asked why Vocaloid wasn't running physics-based simulations of speech instead. His response was that the average computer's resources weren't sufficient to crunch those kinds of numbers as efficiently or quickly as Vocaloid's "phoneme font" solution, and that it wasn't coincidental this speech synthesis system was created by speakers of a phonetic, Mora-timed language with exactly 45 phonemes, five vowel sounds and zero diphthongs, rather than by Western Europeans.
@jokypoky2 жыл бұрын
I've learned more in this video than I have in my first 2 weeks of Technical Physics II. Thank you.
@Shinsemusic2 жыл бұрын
As a music producer, I love this video. You gave a really quick explanation of some fundamental concepts that are for some reason really hard for people wrap there head around, and also explaining how it relates to music theory. I know a lot of people how could really use the first 8 minutes of this video.
@heartlessalice58012 жыл бұрын
wow really great video ^^ Also seeing all those papers, figures and researcher name really throw me back a few years when I did research on voice synthesis in school and read those exact same papers X) Thanks for the nostalgia I guess ^^ (and the math)
@mard1_a2 жыл бұрын
15:23 Kaito IS the best vocaloid thank you for only speaking the truth !
@smestre2 жыл бұрын
what an awesome video dude. the timing of the GBA joke, the editing, the math, the the ending just *chefs kiss* perfect
@newpaperyes2 жыл бұрын
The whole video I was waiting for a demonstration of your voice synth of yourself. Ending didn't disappoint.
@shivajoshi90682 жыл бұрын
dude keep up the gr8 informational content! (that gives the feeling of learning so much...yet learning almost nothing)
@PhilipHubbe2 жыл бұрын
17:28 Thanks for that explination.
@luuexists2 жыл бұрын
I came into this video expecting it to be about you making an UTAU, only to be taught about the full history of voice synthesis. And then for the video to become exactly what I expected at the last second.
@sugakookie16282 жыл бұрын
The quality of your videos are unreal!! Keep giving us stuff we didn't know we needed
@RetoranPetrah2 жыл бұрын
why the hell are your videos so well researched dude, I'm doing voice frequency changing as a third year project in my degree and I've learnt way too much for a funny youtube video. I'd include this video in my citations if I hadn't already decided to approach the frequency change in the time domain.
@TheTriforcekeeper2 жыл бұрын
22:18 That Faster than Light soundtrack caught me off guard! Great hearing that after such a long time :) Now onto the rest of the video!
@charlotteowl4672 жыл бұрын
I knew what was coming and I must say the build-up was amazing and the execution was impeccable
@Klinofff2 жыл бұрын
I live in another country, but we have the same ava (I chose it by accident), I rummage in search of Vocaloids and even did covers (before you created your video)
@gommito2 жыл бұрын
8:15 You mean gameboy advanced, that's my favourite console! ohh...
@GeneralNuisance002 жыл бұрын
19:00 nice CZ sampa there lol also good vid in general, I'm really happy to see something so well researched, especially in regards to an outsider looking in at UTAU. Seeing all the footage of things like Oremo and explanations of VCV and CVVC was really refreshing since most non-Vsynth-focused KZbinrs boil down content on UTAU to "it has teto on it"
@Wapoose2 жыл бұрын
This video is so rewatchable. I watched it before I fell asleep yesterday, now here I am watching it as I wake up. I think this is the new life for me.
@mrED1232 жыл бұрын
I’m telling you Junferno explains an idea and many concepts related so well. I’m really happy I found your channel! Best wishes
@nemoqwert12372 жыл бұрын
just add some tribal drums and you got a ritual commin on in 19:20
@hoshangchakravarty2 жыл бұрын
You never miss a junferno video
@pccasio56282 жыл бұрын
was 23 min into the video thinking where's the becoming a vocaloid part and i wasnt disappointed
@Staircatte2 жыл бұрын
i love how much research you put into this, thank you so much
@lynx_10282 жыл бұрын
I don't watch Junferno for the interesting content, I watch him to learn how to be hilarious while explaining boring stuff. I don't watch him to learn stuff i've learnt already, I watch him because he uses FTL soundtrack as a background for his videos. I don't watch him to inform myself in any way, I watch him just to see at which time is he going to reference bad apple. Amazing vid, hope to see another video in the next decade.
@LC-hd5dc2 жыл бұрын
we get it, You Are Very Smart
@lynx_10282 жыл бұрын
@@LC-hd5dc i'm just here for the memes dude
@gfbtfbtfilyfxbtyewqqef2 жыл бұрын
Your editing is very cool and funny. 10/10
@shinoataya2 жыл бұрын
16:33 Defoko and Adachi rei: yes, real people
@Nonzerotonin2 жыл бұрын
This is an incredible video, very well done! You make the big physics topics easy to understand, and the visual+audio examples you give help to reinforce the information. You've got yourself a new subscriber.
@ZenoDovahkiin2 жыл бұрын
If youtube videos were like live performances, you would have been able to identify every single Tentacrul viewer in the audience as soon as he said "timber".
@Hard_Pretzel2 жыл бұрын
Rarely do I ever see an ending gag so perfectly constructed throughout the entire video. Thank you for your service.
@arahenior27062 жыл бұрын
11:41 is when I remembered this video is supposed to be about vocaloid
@ashiranazenara17862 жыл бұрын
This video genuinely made me smile. Thank you. :)
@iskamag2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you BAProlled me like that... Good job.
@qualia7652 жыл бұрын
this is definitely my favorite way of presenting a topic.
@__8120 Жыл бұрын
6:14 what is that website? I remember seeing it in a VSauce video but I can't remember which one or what the website was called
@Splattercat_art10 ай бұрын
bilibili??
@porto25492 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing! I'm surprised it isn't more popular
@ian57662 жыл бұрын
“The pipes themselves were shaped like misshapen pipes” had me dead
@Garfield333332 жыл бұрын
This video is so well done. All of the jokes are perfectly timed and absolutely hit, while blending effortlessly with the rest of the content, thank you for all the work you put into this!
@sinom2 жыл бұрын
2:48 Another normal search term ruined by a weird fandom...
@zoklev Жыл бұрын
gosh I love your content and I'm so glad YT recommended it to me just earlier
@elgatto31332 жыл бұрын
13:20 Ah elektronica, the casio of the soviet union (and belarus but who cares)
@yumirai42 жыл бұрын
That is one of the best videos I've ever seen on KZbin, thanks for the efforts man!
@xX-DogSama-Xx2 жыл бұрын
was this just the worlds largest most interesting build up to a shitpost ever?
@merouln7002 жыл бұрын
2:13 had me laugh for 3 minutes. Nice video, and thanks for answering a question I never asked myself, nor did I need the answer but I got both anyway
@KookieDanish2 жыл бұрын
14:26 Miku with influenza -That's Miku NT-
@circuitsable2 жыл бұрын
oh my god you have no idea how much i liked this video. the humor was on point and ot covered topics i have been interested in for years, while explaining things at the right speed but also comedically. you need a paypal link or something i beg you
@jackpumpoen2 жыл бұрын
goddamit it’s bad apple again 23:26
@maritoguionyo2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@PanzerSparrow2 жыл бұрын
The quality of this is top tier! Fantastically entertaining video and surprisingly instructive. I also laughed my ass of like all throughout the video, and that Bad Apple was fire XD.
@moechano2 жыл бұрын
Miku will always advance as long as technology advances :) also nice cover.
@eli_net2 жыл бұрын
this is the first person that i’ve seen actually put the songs they used for the background music in the description lol tysm
@dssgoat2 жыл бұрын
0:56 had me 💀, idk why
@mxxkyboi2 жыл бұрын
4:11 OH GOD I THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS CALLING ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT tho Native Faith is the perfect ringtone song you cannot tell me otherwise
@OggerFN2 жыл бұрын
Finally another episode of never wanted to know this but thanks
@Museko2 жыл бұрын
9:27 AYY, a track from the FTL soundtrack (I think it's one of the Rockmen tracks). Nice! I noticed most of the other tracks you used, but I didn't expect to hear this in someone's video today.
@iwaslazkis2 жыл бұрын
Anybody know what the software is that Junferno uses at 6:15 to 6:19?
@boc_fan2 жыл бұрын
This has gotta be the most entertaining way to learn stuff ab random topics... thank u junferno. U r the 10x dev
@madladdie70692 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like you only made this because you didn't want to waste all the research you had to do to get your vocaloid version of Bad Apple!! to work? Also, are you planning on releasing a full vocaloid version of that?
@tibethatguy2 жыл бұрын
I think you meant UTAU instead of Vocaloid, as the licence you need to make Vocaloid VBs aren't really available for the public and also ridiculously expensive, not to mention the quality standards?
@LC-hd5dc2 жыл бұрын
tfw "not@@tibethatguy " but you are that guy
@madladdie70692 жыл бұрын
@@tibethatguy ah. my bad.
@madladdie70692 жыл бұрын
@@LC-hd5dc s'fine in this case. i wasn't getting it wrong on purpose for the meme's sake.
@CommentBanana2 жыл бұрын
you have not only earned my subscription but my life long adoration
@matthew_blumenberg2 жыл бұрын
Bad Apple played on myself
@thyscott66032 жыл бұрын
I love the quality of the videos and thumbnails. Brings me back to 2012
@Incognito-rb4tz2 жыл бұрын
6:09 听不懂ww
@nivin51662 жыл бұрын
i love you and your content so much,, theres so much technical things but its so funnily put together i could watch for hoursss
@sonnymoorexsonic2 жыл бұрын
junferno is hiding in my wifi ☹️
@ch5352 жыл бұрын
This is by far the greatest video I have ever watched, please get some much deserved rest you legend
@_wewww2 жыл бұрын
Junferno Bad apple full version when? Also this video made me learn more than I thought
@gattomiaomiao96342 жыл бұрын
This was easily the best video I've seen since beginning of the year. Thank you so much for your work, it is both fascinating, addictive and interesting. Greetings from Italy