EASY $189 Mini Gaming PC You Can Build Yourself!

[@ToastyBros]

Save money on your next gaming pc with Jawa jawa.link/TBAug24

[@josephdias5859]

It needs undervolting the gpu is throttling hard

[@DARK-SHADOWfq5qk]

Hello I am new here , so is this channel about PC only 😊

[@josephdias5859]

@@DARK-SHADOWfq5qk Yeah

[@mortysmith666]

Unable to access the link

[@andresp2595]

Would this be enough to get great ps3 and xbox 360 emulation?

[@vipast6262]

Be AWARE - Not all Mini PC's have the Graphics card port soldered onto the board. Which means you can't just buy this for ANY 800g5

[@montreauxs]

Nah... It's all good.

[@vipast6262]

@@montreauxs lol.. what does that mean

[@rolfathan]

I'll check mine, thank you. I have the intel version of this same computer, we'll see if it has the port.

[@vipast6262]

@rolfathan yeah. I had about 12 of these type of models from a business and none of them had the graphics port connector on the board, you could see where it would go, and I couldn't find any ports to salvage to see if it was possible to even solder the port to see if it was possible to just add, or if it was also bios/firmware locked.

[@danielv.8915]

​@@vipast6262It means exactly as you read. It's all good 🤙

[@matthewdetmers]

I would highly recommend getting the lid with the holes in it from the 65 watt unit, or drilling ventilation holes. Your GPU is thermal throttling. The GPU itself consumes around 40 Watts + 35 Watts for the CPU == A TON of heat. Additionally there is a VGA BIOS mod that exists for the GPU that allows you to push the power levels up a little bit, and unlock extra performance.

[@KorpseDusT]

yea i was going to recommend that there are lids with perforations in them already for those models. Use them in our office. i HATE when i see people cover them up. IT problems lol

[@dailylife8901]

What's that VGA bios mode?

[@RuruFIN]

Funny to think that 40W for a GPU is a ton of heat, when my RTX 3080 pulls 350+ watts during gaming.

[@iwillruletheword]

Where can I find this mod?

[@Mohammed_x]

yeah i really want to see them try those mods

[@Yarpopcat08]

1:13 intro and sponsor end, video starts

[@Tarfhayes]

The Hero we never asked for, but needed nonetheless o7

[@Apex8r]

@@Tarfhayes eh, not really 7mins in maybe Also, was cool 20yrs ago

[@Ultimatebubs]

At 4:30, it has the all important "Callout Text" feature. That's important for a gaming PC! :)

[@PeggyIverson]

I just want to say THANK YOU! I already own the exact model and have done light research to try to figure out what kind, if any, of external GPU I could use. All of them seem to be an arm and a leg. So, this seems like it will be a worthwhile shot for what I'm looking for. I have no intention of playing games, but I do some rather intensive projects in Illustrator and if you could game, it should be able to get closer to what I need. If nothing else, it could push back the time frame on me getting something newer, greater, more obvious in a laptop. I know I'm not your target audience and this was long to not be in that group, but this was incredibly helpful to me. Thanks for testing it and showing how to install!

[@milescarter7803]

Use a vented lid, it needs at minimum an intake for the fan and a way for the GPU exhaust to escape (the square metal duct). Also unplug the blue wire in the fan plug or your performance will be abysmal. I built and tested one last year.

[@therealdonchelios]

For your use, you would be better off getting a quality NVME, faster dual channel 32gb ram and some good thermal paste. Should be good. You won't get much improvement from this graphics card that you would see. Sounds more like this isn't the system for you.

[@wink_butterdog]

in the fortnite pre launch settings, enable pre-download streamed assets. it pre-downloads skin models instead of downloading them during a game

[@InsanityPrevails]

4:28 "Callout Text", hehe

[@ghostfreckle]

I was wondering what those ports were for... Now, I'm even more confused. 🤣

[@CameronVanNatta]

Callout Text support is very important in a mini pc build.

[@ToastyBros]

oops

[@Karlus_LeV]

@@ToastyBrosit’s ok we all make mistakes

[@CosmicTechASMR]

The Editor was caught lacking. 😂

[@XanderRowlet]

I bought the PC featured in this video and it has a new life as a dedicated Plex media server. I’ve also got a new ventilated lid for it in the mail. Little guy hopefully won’t break 65° ever again!

[@novamaster0]

If you don't mind me asking, this is what I'm considering hunting one of these down for. How well does it support transcoding? 1080p? 4k? Subtitles? I would love to hear your experience with it as this might be the solution I've been looking for fitting well in a server rack.

[@XanderRowlet]

@@novamaster0 I’d honestly go for something with an 8th gen intel CPU or later. Plex doesn’t natively support hardware transcoding on AMD. I can only get 2 4K transcodes going at once before I bog down the system.

[@DennisPochenk]

I got 3 additions to make on this build because i use the same setup 1. You can't turn off the GPU cores of the already embedded GPU in the CPU, this would lighten the heat and stress on the CPU. 2. Your SSD is going to be toasty under that GPU, add some heating pads to enable touching the GPU underframe to make the (NVMe) SSD perform better than standard. 3. Since you can't turn the embedded GPU cores of, try a powersupply of at least 180w, i use a 250w since i had that laying around and amongst with cooling the SSD it does make a great difference, so take the review above with a grain of salt. (4.) i ordered a thin strip extension to keep the addition to add a SATA SSD outside of the case

[@matthewstoltz1563]

There are versions of that HP micro PC with 2400G instead of 2400GE CPUs. I think the 2400G runs 65 watts. The 2400GE are 35 watts. The 2400G models come with the perforated lid. If you look at the GPU cooler you can see that it expects to pull air through the perforated lid of the 65 watt model.

[@rolfathan]

I got two intel versions of this for... $15. The business that bought them thought they were broken. They were using the wrong power supply. I might go ahead and pick up these GPUs and power supplies to make them both a bit more usable. Thanks.

[@milescarter7803]

Don't forget to use a vented lid, and if the fan doesn't automatically ramp up unplug the blue wire to see the actual performance without the thermal throttling.

[@Ancient_West]

05:15 - "... It's better than a traditional office pc." 07:55 - "... upgrading, like, an old office pc with a budget GPU would be a FAR better solution."

[@milescarter7803]

They didn't unplug the blue fan wire, so the fan never sped up, they were thermal throttled the whole time. Needs a re-visit. (Source: I built one last year). Also they didn't have the vented lid, so completely stifled the inlet and outlet of the GPU heatsink.

[@Denis92Gottlobeanu]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelchristianrusso]

​@@milescarter7803 it's like they weren't even trying.

[@milescarter7803]

You missed a trick, you were thermal throttled the whole time. The 560 is way faster than the integrated GPU. You needed to unplug the blue wire from the fan connector to get full speed on the fan, and of course a vented lid. Bare minimum use a hole saw for the fan intake and another for the outlet from the heatsink. Or just run it with the lid off. I ran mine on HoloISO (SteamDeck OS), it is faster than a steamdeck if you mod the fan speed.

[@PeggyIverson]

How do you unplug the blue wire? Do you cut it? Which end would be the easiest? Near the socket or the black tape? Also, after watching this video for a second time, I think it just hit me that they had to replace the SSD that it came with. Did you do that also? Sorry for what is most likely rather basic questions, but outside of just recently replacing the fan on my 705, the most I've ever done to a computer is replace RAM. So, I'm wondering if I could just leave the lid off, connect the GPU and use some foam to sit it above the cage they took out. Clearly, I'd have ventilation, but I also wouldn't have to figure out how to switch everything, including the OS over to a new drive. Am I offbase about this possibility? And, thank you in advance, if you even think about answering all of this. 👍

[@milescarter7803]

Looks like my comments get auto deleted if I mention procurement of parts 🙄🤫🤐

[@milescarter7803]

​@@PeggyIverson Blue wire can be pulled out of plug if you pry the plastic clip back a little. Then it can be put back if desired.

[@milescarter7803]

​@@PeggyIverson I use an M.2 Drive and CloneZilla tool to copy the whole drive over to the new one. Leaving the lid off is good for cooling, and putting the original 2.5" drive away from the hot GPU would be wise. Maybe it could fit over the CPU plastic shroud?

[@milescarter7803]

Other SFF include the Lenovo Tiny which accepts regular PCIe cards that are ''low profile'. Or something like a 'Zillion H610' ITX motherboard that slots the card in from the side

[@R3AL-AIM]

Another option if you are crafty enough. I have seen someone take one of these, use a PCIE riser/adapter and put an RX 6400 in it. You might be able to find one short enough to put some electrical tape on the back of the PCB and stuff down into the case. Cuts small slits on the top for some air and make sure the DisplayPort is accessible. Beefy little boy it would be.

[@saiyanwastaken7617]

the cpu would bottleneck that gpu It would almost be the same performance

[@unholysaint1987]

@@saiyanwastaken7617 i can't imagine it would actually be all that bad, assuming it fits in the case... theyre both 4gb, the 560 is a pcie 3 x8 with a 128 bit bus, the 6400 is a pcie 4 x4 with a 64 bit bus, the theoretical max memory bandwidth of the 6400 is only about 12% higher edit: also add in the fact that during the gaming in the video, the 560 was in the 90 to 100% usage range almost the whole time, and for the most part the 2400g was between 40 and 70%, with a few blips higher

[@milescarter7803]

​@@unholysaint1987 they closed off all the GPU airflow, both inlet and outlet with the lid. And if you don't unplug the blue wire the fan doesn't speed up. You need to check the clocks to see if it is throttled from the heat. Source: I built one last year.

[@bluelotuscoding]

How would that work? I have a few of these and id like to know which pcie raiser can be used here without making it external. Take a 3050 low profile gpu for example.

[@sixtyinsix]

FYI for anyone interested in this concept. I have an HP Slimline 290 that I upgraded in a similar fashion. CPU upgraded from a Celeron to an i5-9500 and the gpu to a Gigabyte RTX 3050 OC Low Profile 6GB. I had to "trim/shorten" the 4 prong CPU power plug on the cable side to fit the card flush with the pcie slot. My first card (an Asrock Arc A380 low profile) was shorter and didn't hang over that plug in the motherboard, so it fit just fine.

[@rudy_dstroys1821]

I'm curious about your mini pc. Sounds beefy in a small package.

[@DigitalJedi]

Very similar mod here with a Yeston single-slot 3050 6GB in a Lenovo P330 Tiny. I made my own top cover with more ventilation and de-shrouded the GPU to save a few mm in thickness to get back to the stock form factor. Mine game with a 9700T and that was a nice surprise. I thought I was buying one with an 8600T.

[@VanadiumMC]

Almost done getting parts for my first pc Still need the gpu and monitor. I am so excited

[@sj7178]

Nice, what parts are you planning on getting?

[@VanadiumMC]

@@sj7178 the 6650xt and a Sceptere Monitor 24in 165hz 1080p

[@mcatoz3438]

I got my first pc Ryzen 5 5600g 8gb ram 250gb m.2 SSD 500gb laptop hdd 450w psu

[@VanadiumMC]

@@mcatoz3438 Nice!

[@VanadiumMC]

@@sj7178 I have a Xeon 2680v4, 32gb of ram, and I am going to get a 6650xt

[@dexmiermaxime8583]

There is an adapter to turn the proprietary slot into a regular pcie4x slot. Letting you put a low profile single slot card. Like a gtx1650, rx6400 or the latest rtx 3050 6gb. You may have to a different power brick tho

[@janlamp]

I use this PC as a personal GameServer for Rust & Minecraft, and it works absolutely perfect 👌

[@rudy_dstroys1821]

Thats also what I was thinking of using.

[@milescarter7803]

I sent the toasty bros an email. This thing was throttled to 1/4 or worse performance the whole time. I built one last year and unless you vent the lid and ramp the fan it dogs down to 300mhz on the GPU. Unplug the blue fan wire to get the fan speed up. If they set their display to show GPU Clock or Watts they would have seen what was really going on.

[@theinktician]

For anyone considering this, I STONGLY recommend you look at one of the mini PCs with the Ryzen 6800H or 6900HX. While these are mobile CPUs, they run laps around the G series 2000 chips. The 2000G series had weaker CPU power than 1st gen Ryzen, and its iGPU is weaker than any mobile Ryzen 5 from the 4000 series onward. You can find the mini PCs on sale for around 350 if you wait - and you can get one of the 5000 series pcs for even less, but in modern games it will only be slightly better than this 2400G.

[@misterthegeoff9767]

11th gen intel CPUs with Iris Xe graphics are also more powerful than you would expect, they aren't great but they can hold their own against this older stuff and if you're buying ex-corporate mini PCs there's a lot more intel ones out there than AMD so it's easier to pick up a bargain

[@milescarter7803]

Better yet get the one with the mobile RX6600 graphics chip.

[@sheesh7719]

These mini pc's with 680M graphics are nowhere to be found on the aftermarket. Vega 7/8 is the only thing available.

[@paparansen]

@@sheesh7719 lol

[@FaZePxlm]

whats about the asus PN53-BBR575HD ??

[@StruggleBoxing]

It would be better to just upgrade the CPU to a 5600g and use the IGpu. U will actually get better performance in Alot of games over this setup with RX560. If you put a laptop cooler on top of the case and flip the cooler upside down it would prevent the GPU from thermal throttling.

[@Terry-PC.Enthusiast]

It overheats badly, the graphics card doesn't support a good gaming experience, overall. It does exactly what it did before we upgraded it and not much more.

[@saysbadman]

It would be great for batocera. I don't need to play the newest hotness. Plenty of fun to be had.

[@Conumdrum]

They added an additional 80 watt GPU to a tiny case with little ventilation. They created an easy bake oven without room for the cake pan.

[@masterace9543]

😂😂😂 ​@@Conumdrum

[@ToastyBros]

@@Conumdrum Honesty its wild that HP even allows this.

[@malikplayz4425]

I'm interested in playing EA Sports FC games - 24 and 25. I watched a gameplay from someone with the same specs as the mini PC for him and it ran well for him on high settings (regular PC). Do you think I would get the same performance using this mini PC?

[@Ori-Retro-Gamer]

To get better air flow , you chould try modding the top case, cut out vents for cool air intake around the gpu fan area

[@thatmoy]

Callout text

[@invictus0x0]

A lot of the Lenovo Tiny series will let you use a LP card. A RX6400 paired with an 8th/9th gen I7 will run most FSR titles without issue @ 60 locked. with a Dremel you may even be able to get a A2000 to work..

[@sendittozach]

If your case is not meant for to have that card in it it will throttle terribly. The case intended for that card has vent holes populating the entire top of the case. Couldn’t tell if you had that or not. There is another creator who had the non vented case and took a drill and made holes to emulate the intended enclosure. Worked a treat!

[@fatherof4kids]

The parts are now $225. You can buy a dell I7 -3.6 ghz and a 8gig rx580 for less than $200.

[@frostbyte11]

If drill exhaust holes on the top where the GPU fan is would it cool it down? Or cut the section out and add a magnetic vent cover? It look as though the system is having issue due to thermals. Just curious. Also could you do a return visit to show emulation performance?

[@milescarter7803]

There is a vented lid from HP. Also the fan was not going full speed. You can unplug the blue fan wire and make it go full speed. A PWM fan controller would be better though.

[@konstantine_c]

The fact that this tiny form factor PC has a dedicated GPU option is pretty incredible! I think this would be great for games from around 2015 and earlier, as well as older console emulation. This kind of reminds me of the Alienware Alpha Steam Machine, which looks cooler and probably runs games better than this tiny PC. In any case, I enjoyed watching this video and would consider getting one of these PCs down the road when it's even cheaper. Thank you!

[@katieblackmore2004]

Toasty Bros are the only people i know that could build either a working potato or a £5,000 PC........ And they'd still show/play test Halo Fortnite Apex CoD Because hey, that's all us PC players play

[@RC360]

I like that the front I/O includes callout text, not enough computers have that.

[@NikoReid]

U would think they would try 720p which it seem like the sweet spot for a build like this.....🤔

[@ll_spud]

You should look at purchasing the lenovo m720q, m920q or p330. They have a pcie slot. I put a lp T1000 in mine. You can put a rx 6400 as well. Cpu wise u can upgrade it to a i9 9900T.

[@mattfischer3853]

Love old office equipment builds. Can generally pick up whole towers on Facebook for $50-100. A lot of people mentioned thermal throttling. Would be interesting, just to see the numbers, run a gaming session with the lid off and see if it smooths out.

[@arasumi3408]

2ND DAY , VIDEO IDEA: The all Pawnshop Gaming set up & The all Goodwill Set up

[@ToastyBros]

You might be on to something

[@KirkBernardJR]

@@ToastyBros Can you unban me?

[@jonw8694]

0:10 Dude on the left needs to take the money he saved on buying a mini PC and pay for some acting lessons.

[@RealBrokoli]

You realise that's a joke right?

[@ovarb12]

Thanks for putting the links to products in. So many videos always forget that.

[@lmelior]

That's pretty awesome! I'm very tempted to give this a shot, but that thing is begging for some ventilation! You can see that silver vane near the back directing the air upward, but the lid covers it up. Drill some ventilation holes there and that will surely help a ton! I'd be interested to see what that looks like through a thermal camera before and after, and how the GPU performs if/when you can keep it cooler.

[@milescarter7803]

It's even worse if the Stock BIOS doesn't speed up the GPU fan. I had to unplug the blue wire on my fan plug to make it game properly when I built one of these last year.

[@josephdias5859]

definitely speed holes and put a rx 560d bios on it to make less heat

[@dgpsf]

That's awesome. I bought this exact thing and put in the GPU in. It's fine for Minecraft, even acceptable at 4k. I did have to buy the hundred-and-something-watt PSU for it -- with the original PSU connected, it literally wouldn't even post with the GPU in!

[@sli-fox]

Wow! I have one of these laying around. Going to upgrade it for my 5-year-old’s first pc. Thanks!

[@rezabela24434]

Thanks for shed some light for me 😂😂 👍 From Indonesia 🤩

[@covalkir]

Thank you very much for building and testing this! I had seen a few others discuss this mini-with-a-gpu, but your games testing is more detailed. I appreciate the conclusion that the system makes a better emulator than it does a modern gamer; but still a fun project.

[@mirrakirra]

I know it's not my place, but I would love to see how this pc performs in a game called 7 Days To Die. They have a lot of graphics settings you can alter, but I honestly think this pc could run it for someone who can't afford a high end pc for this game.

[@jeffreygrindle6396]

Ram would be a issue 7 days uses so much ram like I normally tell ppl you want at least 24gb I have seen it pull as much as 30gb on Big hoard nights

[@AW28]

Doesn't it require a top vent hole for the GPU? That might limit you by GPU Temp.

[@69rickart]

The Version for the ryzen 2400G 65Watt has a case with lots of top vent holes. This case is the version for 35 watt TDP CPU and it is the wrong choise for that graphics card. Don't know why the T_Bros didn#t do enough research on the HP 705 G mini series.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@69rickart do these guys look like the type to do RESEARCH?

[@69rickart]

@@SeeJayPlayGames They should do if they build and sell for costumers.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@69rickart right?

[@milescarter7803]

It requires 2. Inlet and outlet. And the fan won't speed up stock, I had to unplug the blue wire. It should go at least 3x faster.

[@Motokov2]

Gotta say, my Lenovo think centre (tiny pc) with i7 9700(not t) and rx 6400, 1tb nvme, 32gb ddr4 sodim and two 2 inch holes cut over the GPU and CPU kicks ass with the AMDs new fluid frame motions 2 (beta) is amazing.

[@diman7963]

🤫 don't tell them about the tinies, the price on those will go kaboom after the video

[@MayankJairaj]

​@@diman7963 STH already made them popular during the 2019 break and Raspi Shortage

[@fairplayer916]

cut a hole in the top plate for air, and it might not just run cooler, but faster.

[@SmithBeatZ1]

My best deal on Jawa was 13 new X5570 CPUs for $30 shipped. Dude had an entire tray of them. Actually new too.

[@dailylife8901]

I have that combo and the gpu is perfect for WiiU at 1080p, I haven't tried Switch yet but I bet it can handle it, those games tested could run better is it had a better cpu I think.

[@matthewschirm8617]

Thoughts on using this as a portable streaming machine? I use USB C, iVcam, and a Google Pixel 6 pro with an old laptop with integrated graphics. Streamlabs usually gets capped around 720-1080p streaming at only 30 fps.

[@Chesil854]

This is an awesome Video Keep uploading :)

[@mikejames6588]

It's crazy how far we have gone. My legion go shats on this and its just a handheld....

[@milescarter7803]

This was thermal throttled the whole time, to like 300mhz. Needed a vented lid and the fan doesn't ramp on stock BIOS. Need to take lid off, unplug blue fan wire, and re-test.

[@rizz7209]

Assuming it ran on windows, how does the gaming performance compare when using "lossless scaling"? Maybe test it with and without the frame generation.

[@LabTest-z5l]

have your tried to 2d and 3d editing? Open Case or upgrade the cpu cooler?

[@malachai80]

thats great for Emulation. I'd still drill some vent holes in the case and add a fan with a 3d printed spacer/bracket.

[@TechMeldOfficial]

You are better off spending a bit over 200 and getting a Minisforum with 780M graphics, it should be a lot better especially for E-sports

[@elduderino7767]

double the gaming performance, 3x the cpu performance, far less heat and noise and it'll be cheaper over the long term once you calculate electricity consumption these mini pcs are a great cheaper option for general pc us but for gaming there are much better options like anything with a 680m or higher

[@milescarter7803]

If you unplug the blue fan wire so the GPU actually is not overheating the 560 is actually quite performant. They need a do-over on this video. I would not recommend any iGPU over a discrete. Even an RX6400 is better value. If you want a Minisforum get the one with the 6600 Mobile GPU.

[@TechMeldOfficial]

@@milescarter7803 They are quite more expensive compared to this Mini HP including the dGPU

[@elduderino7767]

@@milescarter7803 the performance of an rx6400 is marginally better, more of a side grade really 6600 is a different story, that is a significant upgrade comes down to personal preference between cost, size and gaming demands rdna igpu is in a pretty sweet spot, nice balance for those after a quiet, small and energy efficient solution can't recommend the 560 in 2024 though, back in the day they were good but AMD changed the game, with 680m they killed off low end dgpus and lifted the bar

[@stab244]

Which 780m model is a bit over $200? All I see for 780m are all around the $500 mark.

[@Memevilleguy]

Would have been better if you put a ryzen 4070 in it

[@Taken1000x]

These were super common in corporate office settings within the past few years. Since COVID they are being phased out in favor of AIOs and laptops, so there's probably a ton of them on the resell market right now. I just got rid of my old one that was issued to me. They came uniform with an I5 and 16 GB ddr4.

[@YordansGamingNetwork]

The use case? Emulation, more specifically... in an arcade cabinet, your choice of an emulation frontend on windows or linux the question is how far can it go or will you take it? Mame or yuzu

[@escapetherace1943]

I didn't know Seth Rogan had a YT tech channel. subbed

[@safetycrocs5069]

Nice build, I was able to make something a bit similar myself. I took a Lenovo thinkcentre that has the same CPU and at a m.2 to Oculink adapter and was able to use a oculink eGPU to run whatever GPU I have lying around.

[@judasthepious1499]

wait.. does that gpu gets plugged into some pcie or something, because I can't seem to see it in the video @ 4:06

[@Boost_Addict20]

Perfect for a retro gaming machine

[@CEG3RD]

How how hot did this one liter get with that GPU in it? I can't imagine how it didn't push up to shutdown. I have a couple of the Intel versions and they are prone to heating and running the fan wide open when hot.

[@wuestsiderx1843]

Not to be a Katana nerd, buuuut your sword is upside down. Katana and sheath should be displayed blade up. Love your videos.

[@keitharszman]

Hey by chance did you upgrade your psu and add ventilation to top would perform much better

[@sj7178]

Since you could get a used xbox one X or PS4 pro for around the same price or cheaper, I feel like those might be better value than this mini PC (though you ofc couldn't use them for everyday computer tasks)

[@DerrickRG]

The 560X in my old Nitro 5 got you somewhere between a GTX 1050-1050 ti. Not all that surprising.

[@20Viper05]

You need to mod the case to have cutouts for the gpu to breath.... the newer models of the mini pc came with a vented top cover with vent holes for both the cpu and gpu. I used a dremmel to cut out rectangles on both sides of the case and then used magnetic attached mesh to cover up my less than pretty cuts.

[@20Viper05]

For an accurate demo you could just take the lid off for testing.

[@DigitalJedi]

I just went though a very similar build on my end over here. Lenovo P330 Tiny with an i7 9700T and an RTX 3050 6GB makes for a great travel system. Mine's more workhorse than gaming rig, with the GPU thrown in so CAD software has something to point its renders at that isn't the Intel UHD iGPU, but it also games pretty well for the size. I'm running the CPU with a 45W power limit and the GPU is limited to 60W via an undervolt. This system is a bit more enticing actually, and might sway me over if I ever do another ultra-SFF modded build like this one. The AM4 socket should mean support for Zen3 chips, and the 5500X3D is dirt cheap for the performance it offers in my area right now.

[@HummyGG]

I would definitaley try to improve cooling .... at least some holes in the lid if not additional fan and repaste ofc

[@JafetJ04]

Hello, excellent video, I have that same PC and I understand that the graphics card that was installed in the video is the AMD Radeon RX560 4GB, and well, I would like to know if there are other graphics cards with that system for that port

[@Bee_Star33]

I'm into emulation and I like the small form factor but I'm curious if this can handle at least to the 6th generation of consoles.

[@LudieMasu]

you are definitely my go-to for understanding tricky topics! ️

[@milescarter7803]

They didn't use a vented lid, or speed the fan up. I've built one myself and if you don't unplug the blue wire it is massively throttled. It should be about 4x more powerful than they show.

[@snowwolvesproductions]

I have a small 3d print farm. I use Fusion 360 to design parts and slice files. I think this could probably do well, don't you think? I'd love to hear what you think of it for that use. I really don't make a lot of money yet, so I'm having to spend VERY carefully. Thanks. Love the channel!

[@CFWhitman]

Even on one of the low profile HP desktops with a few PCIe slots (only one full sized) airflow can be a problem. With those, however, you can jury rig a small fan at the extra slots to improve things. A Noctua 40 mm fan was quiet and improved things quite a bit on one I built.

[@Brian_Buckley]

I sort of did this with a Lenovo M720q, it is going to be inside an arcade cabinet, so looks don't matter. this unit has a PciE 16x but it is proprietary, so i had to get the Lenovo pice adapter then Use a PCIE L bracket so i can vertically install a GTX 1050ti which is almost bigger than the pc itself! Works AWESOME! I had to use the 1050ti because it does not require 6/8 pin supplemental power, and i just so happened to have a 150w Power brick rather than the (i think) 45w that the little system came with! final spec: 16gb ddr4 2666, 8th gen6 core Intel i5, 512 NVME, and the Asus 1050ti works incredibly well for Batocera! and Coin Ops!

[@milescarter7803]

There are rare 1050Ti that are low profile and just fit in the standard Lenovo slot. But there are also 1650 GPUs that are a better bet. I guess add up the cost of the adapter vs the low profile card.

[@potterj09]

I have one of those. Serves as a secondary machine so no need to game but I did take the sata out and put 2 small usb fans in there.

[@nickinderrieden7630]

I think this thing would work best as a classic console emulator, and home theatre pc. Have windows on your tv with all the functionality that would entail. Much faster web browsing than on a regular smart tv as well.

[@KazeTheStorm]

if you run a dual PC setup, as a content creator, for example, this would probably be better as the stream PC, with a stronger rig for the gaming

[@goomStar]

Might still be nice for a "My moms home pc"-bundle.. will keep that in mind.

[@SuperFx89]

Aren't you supposed to cut a hole through the plastic where the hot air from the GPU has to come out?

[@CEG3RD]

I have and have had these 1 liter PC's and I bet that fan roars about 100% of the time with that card installed when you put the least amount of load on it.

[@simedracing]

Would have been interesting to see if the stats were the same with the lid off too i.e. if better cooling would help its performance

[@milescarter7803]

The fan will go faster if you unplug the blue wire. The stock BIOS doesn't actually ramp the GPU fan. They should have had TDP and GPU clocks up to verify it was running properly. It was thermal throttled the whole video.

[@Montgomerygolfgator]

That CPU specifically has THERMAL PASTE under the IHS of the CPU. You can de-lid this Ryzen pro just by cutting the silicone adhesive and giving it a little heat. Replace the paste with anything you like (I used PTM) and put the IHS back on as a clearance spacer and paste as normal, and the temps will drop like a stone.

[@milescarter7803]

You are supposed to have the vented lid with the GPU or a 65w processor.

[@Montgomerygolfgator]

@@milescarter7803 I don't see how that's relevant. Inside this mini-pc is a normal Ryzen AM4 socketed processor, and on the top of the actual CPU chip is a metal shield with the make and model laser-etched onto it. This shield is called an Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS). On most CPU chips this is held on on the edges by a silicone adhesive, but also the CPU die itself is held to it with an indium based metal solder. On this particular Ryzen 5 Pro 5400GE, they went with regular thermal paste instead of the indium solder. This means that you don't have to melt any solder or use a precise delidding tool to remove the IHS, just cut the silicone adhesive. The choice for AMD to replace the solder with thermal paste is two sided, on one that's probably why we can get these so cheap, as the thermal paste dried and lost efficiency they got louder until they were too slow and loud to use in an office setting. The flip side is that on the secondary market can simply cut the lid off and replace the thermal paste ourselves and restore or enhance the thermals and performance by replacing the paste, especially if it's something better. While normally it would be most advantageous to cool the die directly, you need the CPU lid to make contact with the heatsink so you will need to paste both sides of the IHS so the chip can stay cool. TL;DR cut the silicone adhesive on your Ryzen 5 Pro 5400GE for a thermal paste-y surprise.

[@Ephesians-612]

does the intel versions of this hp elitedesk also support the GPU Upgrade?

[@TaShadan]

I would have loved to See a comparison with the integrated gpu.

[@andrewbarney5503]

I wonder if this would work for solidworks, fusion 360, or OnShape CAD modeling.

[@smellersTV]

How do you think would fair with SteamOS installed compared to this Windows performance?

[@reactingwithrj2live877]

Keep up the good work guys I cant wait to find the pc for me😁👌

[@BREEZYM6015]

Where are you looking to find a PC? 😂

[@joshh_889]

I wonder if this would be good to run clone hero or running a plex server.

[@Dtr146]

the lenovo thinkcentre m920x and m720q have the option to come with a slot and adapter to make an pci slot that can fit a 1 slot desktop gpu.

[@topmandog1]

4:30 great editing guys, also what would this be like for a plex server? the GPu would be good for encoding

[@kjkj-yy4oh]

there's no ventilation holes for the GPU that's why I ran so hot

[@milescarter7803]

The fan doesn't speed up with stock BIOS either. Unplug the blue wire and re-test. Get vented lid or leave the lid off.

[@mainfighter]

Use a stack of these for a Proxmox cluster for server tasks, though I obviously don't have GPUs in them and they are the Intel equivalents.

[@Tuckdragon]

would it be possible to upgrade to a Ryzen 5600GE? they are like 150$ but pretty sure they you get much improved cpu and gpu performance.

[@tomjoad1363]

How much image/sec do you have @ war thunder @high quality settings ?

[@thetrashman5258]

will Toasty Bros check out on the Minisforum MS-A1 and fully built it from scratch along with a modified RTX A2000?

[@diptenduXD]

This is good enough for old story based games

[@fabioamado6725]

Can I transplant this PC to a Mini Itx Board? I am talking about my HP 400 G1 Mini. Is the board Mini ITX?