Steven Koecher Disappearance Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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@StaceyQTPie
@StaceyQTPie 3 жыл бұрын
The retiree gang "just couldn't keep it up" 🤣🤣🤣 that was a literal LOL. Good one Dr Grande!
@clarissa8477
@clarissa8477 3 жыл бұрын
That made me lol too 🤣
@emilyhollis4231
@emilyhollis4231 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard! I choked on coconut cookie rolls! Worth it!! 🤣😂
@SuperBobby1967
@SuperBobby1967 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande will have prople imitating him, that is inevitable.
@xaimara13
@xaimara13 3 жыл бұрын
It actually took me a good couple of seconds to notice this one, but I literally laughed out loud as well.
@Plantbliss
@Plantbliss 3 жыл бұрын
That made me spit out my drink😂😂😂
@shawnmorymcmillion
@shawnmorymcmillion 3 жыл бұрын
The cultural pressure within the Mormon community to be successful and perfect is overwhelming and the suicide rate is high. Your analysis is compassionate and spot on. Looking great, Dr. Grande!
@albertafarmer8638
@albertafarmer8638 3 жыл бұрын
Mormonism is an awful cult, they don't believe that JESUS is GOD, they also live by manmade rules and rituals.
@albertafarmer8638
@albertafarmer8638 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxalberts2003 I don't judge anyone, GOD will but we Christians must warn the lost.
@AlbinoWhiteGuy
@AlbinoWhiteGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertafarmer8638 No offense but you obviously don’t know what Mormon’s believe. They do believe Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, which is why his name is in their title. I have family members who are Mormon and they are just as normal as my other Christian family members. It’s probably better to try and understand other people’s beliefs to better empathize where they are coming from.
@albertafarmer8638
@albertafarmer8638 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbinoWhiteGuy Hi, the Mormons believe that our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST is a created being and you can not deny this fact! Mormons believe in a DIFFERENT "jesus" who can not save them. This false teacher Joseph Smith added to the Bible, he was an occultist. Christians must warn the lost according to the Bible and point out false teachings and if you believe in a different "jesus" you are lost as well. The Bible tells us that JESUS is GOD, co-eternal and co-equal with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT.
@tom33pr
@tom33pr 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertafarmer8638 Who cares what they believe in... Who cares what you believe in? What makes you think your religion is in any way superior to any other religion? Each to their own. Live and let live.
@rini6
@rini6 3 жыл бұрын
So many people wanted to help him. It’s sad that he felt he couldn’t accept it. He had this idea that he should do everything himself. It’s just sad.
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 жыл бұрын
*Some females have this problem as well. Although maybe not to the same extent that most guys have it. Its like we're expected to be self sufficient, and overcome **_our own_** problems despite any physical or emotional or monetary setbacks. Millenials, most of us, have been conditioned to be independent without accepting or even asking for help. We're taught to value independence over pride. Which is a dam☆ shame, because everyone needs a little (or a lot) of help from time to time; its nothing to be ashamed of asking for or needing! That notion needs to be in the garbage!*
@hanfred
@hanfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@Griselda_Puppy My mum didn't want to be a burden on anyone during her seventeen year long on-and-off fight with cancer. But she did accept help by professionals. She told me that my granny had been a hypochondriac who often lay in bed, loading off all the chores on her, so she knew exactly what it could feel like to others and became quite the opposite of her mom in this regard. So there may be very different reasons our personality gets shaped in similar directions I guess.
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 3 жыл бұрын
Pride. It’s never helpful
@98clearlake
@98clearlake 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! He had plenty of help ! Just wouldn’t take it ! Very sad 😢!
@PunkMartyr
@PunkMartyr 3 жыл бұрын
Its the sin of pride. It will destroy you if you let it.
@carrielange2692
@carrielange2692 3 жыл бұрын
my fiance killed himself just shy of his 30th b-day. he hated the thought of turning 30. he also was very future oriented when talking to other people. we had just signed a lease agreement to move to a different apartment. We had solid plans in place. And we did a lot of fun things in the weeks before his death. He had a good job, but hated it. He fooled all of us, though. Not all suicidal people act suicidal.
@jeanieq6153
@jeanieq6153 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@nmartin5551
@nmartin5551 2 жыл бұрын
Like the other reply, I am sorry for your loss as well. That had to really be hard.
@regularwarya
@regularwarya Жыл бұрын
Was he also of a german heritage?.
@carrielange2692
@carrielange2692 Жыл бұрын
@@regularwarya are you talking to me? If you are, what are you trying to say?
@regularwarya
@regularwarya Жыл бұрын
@@carrielange2692 Yes. I was talking to you. Nothing never mind. It was a simple Yes/No question to answer.
@lorisutherland7728
@lorisutherland7728 3 жыл бұрын
He makes your heart ache for a young person to end feeling like that
@rayross997
@rayross997 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande wearing plaid like a boss.
@deathbywords
@deathbywords 3 жыл бұрын
This made me LOL 😆 🤷🏽‍♀️
@chrisdixon299
@chrisdixon299 3 жыл бұрын
He been watching too much Mr. Ballen videos 🤣🤣
@elainearchibald9020
@elainearchibald9020 3 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@2manybooks2littletime25
@2manybooks2littletime25 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdixon299 I just found MrBallen about a month ago. His videos are addictive and a bit scary!
@2manybooks2littletime25
@2manybooks2littletime25 3 жыл бұрын
@@iambored678 absolutely! 💯
@brimstonejw1
@brimstonejw1 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Henderson and this story has always intrigued me. From where he left his car and from where his cell phone pinged last are not remote areas. There are plenty of residential and businesses in between. There should have been additional surveillance somewhere 🤷‍♂️
@auggiedoggiesmommy1734
@auggiedoggiesmommy1734 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not when it took police so long to get involved….a lot of that footage was probably just gone by the time they got around to even asking for it…if they even bothered.
@flightofthebumblebee9529
@flightofthebumblebee9529 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that Steven met some shady dealings on the receiving end of a very bad piece of business.
@pennybrandon2073
@pennybrandon2073 3 жыл бұрын
Have you watched That Chapter's video on this? I think the theory he suggests is highly plausible.
@lauraromdeussen864
@lauraromdeussen864 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Vegas. I think that "job interview" turned south fast--you KNOW those ads on FB and at the time CL, that often turn out to be robberies or hoaxes. My gut says foul play at the hands at that fake interview.
@Melsincatuation
@Melsincatuation Жыл бұрын
No foul play...he parked his car, walked to a bus that went out of town..dropping his cell and keys on the way..ended up at that water dam with bridge.that many have jumped from
@justicecarreira5933
@justicecarreira5933 3 жыл бұрын
The observation that this could have been his last act of kindness was a heartbreaking statement.
@rupexo
@rupexo 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that was a very powerful statement - i've never thought of it like that but it could very well be true
@nicholasvonrhine6311
@nicholasvonrhine6311 3 жыл бұрын
I am 53 and over the years I have lived in my car slept in the woods and been beat up just for being homeless but I knew I had too press on.never give up.
@nightheron5892
@nightheron5892 3 жыл бұрын
He seemed very kind and deeply tethered to a moral perspective that structured how things could be meaningful. Unfortunately, as admirable as such a reality can appear, it may be what drove him to oblivion. Rest In Peace Steven.
@guest_5992
@guest_5992 3 жыл бұрын
Not having a moral perspective can also have the same results. But yes, did didn't want to fail anyone or ask for help. So sad.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 жыл бұрын
@Digby Dooright Yeah, I think he (either) committed suicide (say 80% probability) or was murdered (20%). But, then, why'd they hide his body? That part doesn't sit well with me. So, I think he committed suicide, and his body hasn't been found yet.
@nightheron5892
@nightheron5892 3 жыл бұрын
@@guest_5992 you are right about that. The problem of thought is the eventual nihilism it demands. Nietzsche knew it, drove him mad.
@austinsy8056
@austinsy8056 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think he died? If so how ? And why hasn’t his body even be found after more than a decade
@firstnamelastname6193
@firstnamelastname6193 Жыл бұрын
@@PoeLemic if he committed suicide wouldn't it be easier to find his body --- if he was murdered he could have been buried anywhere -- if he committed suicide he would not be able to hide his own body
@mozzerianmisanthrope406
@mozzerianmisanthrope406 3 жыл бұрын
20 minutes to freshen up the mind = 20 minutes to watch Dr Grande before writing again. Perfect procrastination. Thank you for your hard work! ✌️
@mozzerianmisanthrope406
@mozzerianmisanthrope406 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian W Huh?
@mozzerianmisanthrope406
@mozzerianmisanthrope406 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian W Ahh, gotcha! Lol, nope it isn't Sandrine. Beautiful name, though.
@AudioGardenSlave123
@AudioGardenSlave123 3 жыл бұрын
If you're Nietzche's ghost are you going to be a famous philosopher before you die this time? Also, if you're a ghost how are you going to die?
@mozzerianmisanthrope406
@mozzerianmisanthrope406 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian W Ah, I see. That makes sense.
@mozzerianmisanthrope406
@mozzerianmisanthrope406 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioGardenSlave123 Damn, you managed to spell it wrong despite the word being in front of you! Well, given everything in the universe is already predetermined, yes, to the former. The latter is for you to ruminate on...
@lindsayantwine1097
@lindsayantwine1097 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a sad case. It seems like he was such a nice guy, trying to do everything right. And he kept hitting dead ends. Eventually you do start to wonder, if all your efforts and work are just not ever going to pay off. Then it's like, why bother? Why keep putting yourself through it for nothing?
@leddbedd4812
@leddbedd4812 3 жыл бұрын
The Doc’s looking rather dapper today🙌🏻
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
Everyday!
@yasuke9317
@yasuke9317 3 жыл бұрын
Hair cut and a shirt that fits
@jessiec.9169
@jessiec.9169 3 жыл бұрын
What can he say.... He's a Dapper Dan Man!!! lol
@petezipardi4022
@petezipardi4022 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessiec.9169 he eschews Fop! Truly a gentleman and a scholar.
@jessiec.9169
@jessiec.9169 3 жыл бұрын
@@petezipardi4022 From a lady's point of view he is the definition of style and intelligence. He can be both... And is.. He also put a "❤️" on this original comment.... So I think it's safe to say he is a good level of fop & scholar.. and he knows it. 😉 I think saying he "eschews fop" is a little over-the-top! I do not know Dr. Grande however this is what I concluded after my analysis. These however are just my opinion and not meant to diagnose anybody. Just observing what might be happening in a situation like this. 🤫👍💋
@dr.featherbottom
@dr.featherbottom 3 жыл бұрын
My man, delivering those anatomy jokes with that stone cold delivery we’ve come to admire time and time again.
@WooferMcWooferson
@WooferMcWooferson 3 жыл бұрын
I aspire to be half as calm as Dr. Grande always is. 🖤
@garymalone547
@garymalone547 Ай бұрын
Stoicism is the way says this excitement seeking recovering hedonist.
@Autumn_Forest_
@Autumn_Forest_ 3 жыл бұрын
This case always bugs the crap out of me ! It’s really annoying how some people really believe that a guy who couldn’t figure out how to pay the rent would actually be able to disappear on purpose and start a secret, new life. The one thing you’d probably need for such a feat is money, and he had none. He also didn’t seem to be great at planning things.
@kayzbluegenes
@kayzbluegenes 3 жыл бұрын
If he ran off with Susan Powell, maybe she had money. 🙄
@giaparmer
@giaparmer 3 жыл бұрын
@@ty9736 yeah definitely, I actually feel like the goal of society is to make the homeless seem disappeared
@nancy8676
@nancy8676 3 жыл бұрын
He gave up....
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 3 жыл бұрын
Plus he drove a Chevy Cavalier. Hard to overcome.
@Tgogators
@Tgogators 3 жыл бұрын
I think he was murdered. Targeted for robbery under the false tenses of a job interview, fought back and was murdered. It was done by people inexperienced who toyed with his phone to see if his family were looking for him.
@thesongbird2383
@thesongbird2383 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, So many young men have been disappearing: - Macin Smith (St. George UT) - Daniel Robinson (Buckeye AZ) - Bryce Laspisa (California) - Jason Landry (Texas) Just to name a few. So mysterious and sad.
@jcostel27
@jcostel27 3 жыл бұрын
The delivery of the viagra joke is gold.
@AllyPenguin
@AllyPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I laughed so hard 🤣
@ishy7856
@ishy7856 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bp6h
@bp6h 3 жыл бұрын
I spit out my drink when he said that lmaoooo
@Mickey-os2my
@Mickey-os2my 3 жыл бұрын
The good doctor , slips in a dead pan joke or two in most of his videos. If you are not paying close attention , you will miss them .
@debishaw9355
@debishaw9355 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, you are so funny!
@brianpratt3224
@brianpratt3224 3 жыл бұрын
The merchandise must be starting to pay off. New shelf, new folk art cacti, and now a new shirt.
@RealmCenter40
@RealmCenter40 3 жыл бұрын
The mallard shirt I have put on offer is short sleeved so I’m sure my generous donation attempt will be rebuked.
@DonPeyote420
@DonPeyote420 3 жыл бұрын
the folk art cactus is a gift from Mrs. Grande, his name is Harvey Dent
@brianpratt3224
@brianpratt3224 3 жыл бұрын
@@DonPeyote420 Yes and I am certain he is the Richard Moll version rather than Tommy Lee Jones one.
@RealmCenter40
@RealmCenter40 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianpratt3224 Night Court
@brianpratt3224
@brianpratt3224 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealmCenter40 Yeah but he voice Harvey Dent/Two Face in Batman the Animated Series.
@fallenpandora5598
@fallenpandora5598 3 жыл бұрын
12:14 this joke was delivered so perfectly that it took me more then a second to realize it was a joke 😂
@liptoncherry2436
@liptoncherry2436 2 жыл бұрын
That joke was incredible
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 3 жыл бұрын
Your analysis was very insightful Dr. Grande, particularly when you said that “stress has to go somewhere.” I think it speaks to the importance of facing mental health issues head on because they don’t simply disappear. Although it’s hard work, if not dealt with in a timely manner, they may reappear at another time in uglier ways. I think Steven must have been depressed, anxious and highly disappointed with himself. Poor thing. 💔 Excellent review, thank you!❤️ On another note- your shirt is lovely:)
@flightofthebumblebee9529
@flightofthebumblebee9529 3 жыл бұрын
I firmly believe he met some shady dealings on the receiving end of a very bad piece of business. This is evident everywhere you look regarding the facts. Maybe Ken Mains can do a video on this one too.
@juliamarie7012
@juliamarie7012 3 жыл бұрын
I find Stevens situation particularly sad. His family was obviously supportive and stood ready to help but there seemed to be a loneliness about him.
@natekeyes2297
@natekeyes2297 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a sad story. It seems like Steven had such a hard time in his later years. It makes you wish that somehow you could have known him and helped him. It's too bad he felt unable to accept help from his family, although we don't know what his relationship was with him. He clearly either killed himself or was killed. R.I.P. Steven.
@marys3127
@marys3127 3 жыл бұрын
It is amazing with cameras, cell phones, etc that a human being can vanish off the face of the planet.
@thesouluniversal
@thesouluniversal 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy when the person that did it is protected by law enforcement. Theres more to this case, to do with the landlord and who he last visited.
@kingayy9267
@kingayy9267 3 жыл бұрын
@metanina Truth is infinitely stranger than fiction (fiction, in this case, referring to outlandish conspiracy theories)
@thesouluniversal
@thesouluniversal 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingayy9267 Wow, ha. Stay ignorant, its nice and fluffy over there!
@talulahlives7893
@talulahlives7893 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of wide open places in that area.
@corporatehousing5452
@corporatehousing5452 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t this from a decade ago before advances in technology
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 3 жыл бұрын
I think he was suicidal. The money/job problems, the driving, seeking out an old gf...sometimes family and acquaintances are the last to know because the subject "hid his feelings " well.
@flightofthebumblebee9529
@flightofthebumblebee9529 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but people suicidal do NOT go to great lengths to ensure their body is never found. This is extremely rare.
@Native722
@Native722 3 жыл бұрын
He revisit s his past, sign of depression.
@wordsleuth992
@wordsleuth992 3 жыл бұрын
Did he hide his body after too?
@wishingb5859
@wishingb5859 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, I think he was making deliveries for his landlord as a way to pay the rent and the landlord is known to have been involved with criminal things but could have had Steven delivering things without Steven even knowing what he was delivering.
@Melsincatuation
@Melsincatuation Жыл бұрын
Yes he parked his car, dropped.his cell and phone on way to bus out of town.. Most likely ended up at bridge at that water dam where many have jumped from..
@williamlehan4079
@williamlehan4079 3 жыл бұрын
I’ m not Mormon, but I’ve been acquainted with a few in the LDS church. Mormons are typically very focused, purpose-driven and family-oriented. They often get married and begin their families very young. Any young man unemployed and unattached at 30 is might feel an urge to pull things together; a young man in the LDS church in that position would likely feel like an unredeemable failure.
@mlee81
@mlee81 2 жыл бұрын
I bet this is exactly what happened. very sad outcome he decided life was a failure
@LilyAmongThorns
@LilyAmongThorns 2 жыл бұрын
Also all that traveling and walking, sleeping in his car…was he getting much sleep? Even if he wasn’t depressed up to that point, lack of proper rest can do terrible things to your mental state.
@LilyAmongThorns
@LilyAmongThorns 2 жыл бұрын
@@mlee81 maybe he was trying so hard that it caused him to not rest properly which can have similar effects as having a “bad trip” on drugs.
@billie6814
@billie6814 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Grande Fam! How is everyone? Good morning from Australia! ❤️🌏
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
Hey hey, Billie! Im doing GREAT! Life is so good,, and the desert is so beautiful today! I hope you're having a great day today, too! And .. Good afternoon from Las Vegas!
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Billie, I'm fine, thank you. Good evening from Germany. 💙
@nutellabrot9047
@nutellabrot9047 3 жыл бұрын
Good evening from Germany. I am doing great and I hope you too :D
@rochelleshon306
@rochelleshon306 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Billie! I’m doing fine. Thanks for the greeting, what a nice surprise! I hope you’re having s great day. Sending you 💕 from Southern California.
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
Arizona! Hey!😎
@becky4642
@becky4642 3 жыл бұрын
This is real mystery, thank you for revisiting it.
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
Love it to come home from work and then there is a new case from our doctor coming in. 💙
@golovastik.mp3
@golovastik.mp3 3 жыл бұрын
that viagra joke was too good. great analysis as always, Dr. Grande :))
@ChristinePerez903
@ChristinePerez903 3 жыл бұрын
Poor guy, Stephen life was not easy, Great video Dr Grande!!!
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 3 жыл бұрын
“Geriatric viagra “ 😂 You and your plaid shirt are too cute, my friend! ( is it ok if I call you my friend?)
@corporatehousing5452
@corporatehousing5452 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can call him your friend. Just be cautious where you sit if he takes geriatric viagra.
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 3 жыл бұрын
@@corporatehousing5452 hahaha 😝
@roryslaine7896
@roryslaine7896 3 жыл бұрын
Mental health analysis aside, it's genuinely scares that me that in this day and age with all the technology we have, etc people can still seemingly disappear without a trace and then never be found.
@kidu5537
@kidu5537 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking a few days ago... I just don't understand how is it possible...
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
One of the last things my friend did, prior to taking his life, was buying gifts for his step brothers, which were left ready to give. Poor Steven seems to have been in a similar mindset. I hope they found peace.
@lonemaus562
@lonemaus562 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s sad.. it makes sense
@jmklind
@jmklind 3 жыл бұрын
He had also just went to the grocery store the day before and bought a 3lb block of cheese and other items showing he’d be around a while to eat them. This is a case of foul play. Sorry about your friend tho 😔
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmklind thanks so much, I lost two friends that way, both on farms in rural areas, seems to be a particular issue in that community. The cheese is interesting. Either a purchase for Christmas, surely to share, showing future orientation, or a sign of erratic purchasing? Nothing else he did looked particularly erratic, it's possible to argue the road trips we're erratic, kinda, esp with money probs...plus we don't know what the landlord said to him on the phone that could cause distress. Someone suggested he was vanishing to start a new life because he couldn't come out in a religious community, that's very plausible. He said his relationship issues would soon be resolved maybe he was travelling outside his area to meet a guy? He could have encountered someone who took advantage or exception. It's not straightforward that's for sure.
@Anyoneelsebutnope
@Anyoneelsebutnope 3 жыл бұрын
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 cheese, peanut butter, etc etc.
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anyoneelsebutnope I saw your notification and was most perplexed! 😂 Not to make light, I understand fully now having made the connection and thank you very much for the information. That is most interesting. So that and the fact his phone messages were checked gives a different perspective, it looks less like suicide and more like disappearing or foul play. I pray it is the former.🙏
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
Your interpretation (first and foremost the third theory you present) of this man's life situation and his actions makes an already presumably sad case ...incredibly sad. 😢
@wordlady88
@wordlady88 3 жыл бұрын
Me, singing to the cactus on the end table: *I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend.*
@Sforeczka
@Sforeczka 3 жыл бұрын
I am reminded of just how horrible the Great Recession was. I lost everything, and I never recovered. Just thinking about it makes me feel that sick despair I felt back then.
@juliebraden4865
@juliebraden4865 3 жыл бұрын
Same. 🥺
@JansViews
@JansViews 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite shirt yet!! The geriatric joke - hilarious! Still giggling at that one! 😉
@williamsn411
@williamsn411 3 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this on the Investigation Discovery channel years ago. I’ve always thought the whole thing was strange. From his disappearance to the unusual amount of traveling that he did prior. Hope his family finds closure.
@terrimartin5663
@terrimartin5663 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, your extensive background in working with suicidal people is obvious in the tone of your voice. It sounds understanding and caring at the same time. It's so sad to hear of cases such as this one; too bad that therapists are not ethically allowed to share stories about people they have helped. A case with a happy ending would help lighten the depressing tone of this one.
@joyslabaugh8286
@joyslabaugh8286 11 ай бұрын
Terrible, loss at any rate. It's, terrible to think he had no way of coping with all those heavy burdens... 😢 Life, was sure stacked against him.
@nicholassiple7838
@nicholassiple7838 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Vegas during this time and remember the story. Great content like usual Dr.
@feiticeiras
@feiticeiras 3 жыл бұрын
This case makes me sad :( as someone in my 20s I always feel like I’m not meeting certain standards and deadlines fast enough as well, these expectations we may put on ourself can be damaging.
@Strype13
@Strype13 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the first theory. How does one "start over" when they don't really have anything to begin with? Seems like his depression was stemming from the fact that he was never really able to "get started" in the first place.
@luciuscornelius7177
@luciuscornelius7177 3 жыл бұрын
The shackles his religion put on him, the expectations it might have provoked in him about how he should be living by 30 years old, could have been liberating to leave behind? Yes, it would mean leaving his family, but if he felt he was letting them down or was a burden then he might have felt it was a kindness to go? (not knowing it's a living torture not knowing what happened to your loved one) I don't know if suicide is against their teachings, if it is then moving on to pastures new could have meant he had everything to begin again. Once gone it's difficult to admit what happened and get in contact again with your old life, all the fuss that's made about you going missing, how can you just pop up again and say you're alright? I hope he is still alive, maybe one day he'll have the strength to let his family know.
@pattih7
@pattih7 3 жыл бұрын
The streets and Homeless shelters house many people under such circumstances. That and a thousand other insecurities and burdens ! One offer of an idea.
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh this thread rings true to me. I got to 30 and had nothing, growing up in a close religious community it was like I was finished before I was begun. Thank God I was blessed, oddly I nearly died and that lead to me becoming pregnant with my son, my life went in a whole different direction but I remember that lonelines, not to mention poverty. This story really spoke to me. The whole thing lead me to empower my own children, my eldest is now off at uni with his girlfriend of 5yrs. I think Stephen put way way too high a standard upon himself and it was impossible to live up to. His family clearly loved him, I wonder if society and the religious community didn't back that up.
@berlintanker
@berlintanker 3 жыл бұрын
It’s quite easy to understand... He was coming out of the closet, to start a new life...
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@berlintanker I hope so that's hopeful.
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
Highlight of our days! Blessings to you and yours, Dr G🙏👏
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
Blessings to you too, Penelope! (I so love your cute name!)
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@BucketHeadianHagg Thank you so much, please please have some yourself and a big hug! How lovely of you.🥰💗💞
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 You are the perfect example of why I love this channel so much! There are some really good people here that bring so many smiles and happy love feelings each day with their comments to each other. The blessing today, was *you!* You brought love to the table.. How very wonderful! 💚🥰
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@BucketHeadianHagg 😭😭😭😭😭That’s such an amazing thing to say, you’ve made my day, bless you. I was actually really down and struggling with my health and you’ve lifted my spirits right up, thank you with all my heart and God bless you and your loved ones xxx💞🥰💞xxx
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 yes honey, im struggling too. Its been a very scary and hectic time these last 4 weeks of horrible health news. Im having out-of-body experiences dealing with it. I'm going to say your name outloud to God & The Universe, that your health will either improve, or that you will find some peace and comfort with the people in your life who love and cherish you. I wont forget you, Penelope. Your name will be on my lips every morning. Please stay strong, honey. You are NOT a burden to others, and its okay to be scared, upset, and fearful - but its NOT okay to isolate, retreat into darkness and depression, or to push people away. You are important! You are loved! You matter! And I know im not wrong, because, now, you matter to me too! So there! 🤪 lol!
@jeremym1158
@jeremym1158 3 жыл бұрын
One last check of the saved voice-mail messages to hear familiar voices of those he loved before treking out into the vast Nevada wilderness.
@jmklind
@jmklind 3 жыл бұрын
Except that wasn’t the last call on his phone. It was believed to be for a decade until about six months ago when the police released around 150 pages of the case file. That last call was to a redacted number but clearly not his own/VM as that number was not redacted at any other time in the call logs. The police know who he/his murderer called, but WE don’t.
@RoyalPurpleStar
@RoyalPurpleStar Ай бұрын
@@jmklindhis murderer? You mean the police think he was murdered?
@dariushmilani6760
@dariushmilani6760 3 жыл бұрын
There is also a saying in the UK that in old folks home staff quietly add Viagra to resident's meals so that when they sleep they don't roll off the bed 🤣😂
@teresasully3561
@teresasully3561 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@lanacain
@lanacain 3 жыл бұрын
This a sad case 😞 not a joke 😕Lana
@wordsleuth992
@wordsleuth992 3 жыл бұрын
How do they keep the women in bed?
@Mo0may
@Mo0may 3 жыл бұрын
I spit out my drink with the “get it up” joke. 😂 Dr. Grande is savage! On a more serious note, I’ve watched and read a lot about this case. I kinda figure suicide. His behaviors are so irrational and out of the ordinary. Many people who take their own life do not show symptoms of depression. Foul play is always possible too. I am reminded of the Craig’s list killer who lured people in by posting job openings and rental space.
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom 3 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder I'm not diagn--IT'S A NEW SHIRT! I THOUGHT I'D ALREADY SEEN THEM ALL!
@janedmunds4218
@janedmunds4218 3 жыл бұрын
Plaid is a whole new world!
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
I love love love the whole "shirt thing!"
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
@@janedmunds4218 specially when Dr Grande is wearing it! 😍💚
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
When Dr. Grande wants to go for a nice long walk, he opens the door of his closet and starts walking. After two hours of fashion sightseeing he returns revived and decides that he needs.... more shirts. 😊
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom 3 жыл бұрын
@@janedmunds4218 Absolutely! :) I think Dr Grande uses the Acronym T.A.S.T.E.L.E.S.S to describe plaid shirts.
@boniw698
@boniw698 3 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt. 👍. I was wondering if this poor fellow couldn’t have possibly had a psychotic break. Due to stress. This along with a nervous breakdown happened to me after the death of my adult son. I couldn’t stand to be at home which is completely out of character for me , just not to be at home with my thoughts or alone. Just sad.
@donnamariedavidson5065
@donnamariedavidson5065 Жыл бұрын
I'm so very sorry for your loss❤
@NYCDemonDiva
@NYCDemonDiva 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande has mastered the art of uploading at the perfect time 😍
@gaiaiulia
@gaiaiulia 3 жыл бұрын
Such a very sad story. Poor Stephen. I'm sure his family are devastated that he couldn't accept their help and that they still don't know what happened to him. . So sad that he had been offered a job in the next little while. A very sensitive and gentle analysis of a tragic story. It's so strange that his body hasn't been found. I'm inclined to think that whatever happened to him wasn't of his own doing. Just my idea.
@SH-to8sh
@SH-to8sh Жыл бұрын
How do you know someone had a job lined up for him ? and doing what? I've never heard this before
@RoyalPurpleStar
@RoyalPurpleStar Ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel the same way about what had happened to him. It’s almost impossible to hide your own body if it was suicide, unless he’s lying at the bottom of the water. There are plenty of cases where people have ended up being found in the water decades later, either still in their cars or just their bodies. This case is so tragic and frustrating, the “not knowing” must be excruciating and agonizing for his family.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
The viagra joke !!!!..............I can't stop laughing and blushing. :)
@teresasully3561
@teresasully3561 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@karenswartz8280
@karenswartz8280 3 жыл бұрын
That Viagra reference….how did you do it with a straight face 😂🤣. I couldn’t do it! You’re one of a kind Dr. G., and you’re rocking the new shirts. They suit you well.
@joanrankin2827
@joanrankin2827 3 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate how you tie up stories with astute conclusions and lessons learned.
@emilyboggess4426
@emilyboggess4426 4 ай бұрын
STOP IT WITH THAT JOKE ⚰️ I was casually listening and choked on my coffee - to a 3 year old vid. Don’t be an aspiration risk for me, Dr. Grande!! 😂☕️🫶🏼 We love you!
@LuciaScurei
@LuciaScurei 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, you keep raising the level on great jokes delivered with such a straight face!
@feliglobo
@feliglobo 3 жыл бұрын
I love the butchered “hello” at the beginning of every video. A true trademark!
@Lougallops
@Lougallops 3 жыл бұрын
Even in the darkest stories of sad circumstances, Dr Grande can find a reason and an opportunity for humor.
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 3 жыл бұрын
For Christmas, two separate people gave me the same cactus as you have in an orange flower pot. When I see them, I always think about you. Thank you for all the work you put into creating your content that we are so lucky to have available. I hope you are happy and healthy!
@claireparker3815
@claireparker3815 3 жыл бұрын
your videos are the highlight of my day!!! thank you for all that you do!!
@LINKINservicedog
@LINKINservicedog 3 жыл бұрын
I literally had Diet Coke coming out of my nose with the viagra comments. Man. So awesome. Thank you so so much.
@2manybooks2littletime25
@2manybooks2littletime25 3 жыл бұрын
You've gotten a new shirt and it looks great! This poor young man! What a sad story 😢. I hope that he is alive and well, but...
@annamelse1563
@annamelse1563 2 жыл бұрын
Although you cover these disturbing cases, your dry humour cracks me up :D
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
Geriatric thugs 😂😆 Dr Grande Today your shirt makes me think of the winter months, when its cold outside, the fireplace is lit and there's homemade bread baking in the oven! 🥰
@carolv8450
@carolv8450 3 жыл бұрын
I love red plaid shirts! Sexy!🤣
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 жыл бұрын
*Your youtube names hilarious! My daughter calls one of my dogs bucket-head.* 😂
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Griselda_Puppy aww .. haha, that's so cute! 🥰 My name is in reference to a guitar player, who did a lot of solo stuff as "Buckethead" in which he wore a Kentucky Fried Chicken bucket on his head to a party one night, because he didn't want anyone to know he was the guitar player from Primus!
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@carolv8450 Please tell me his shirt is NOT red. It'll save me time and money on an appointment to the eye doctor's office. 😳
@kingayy9267
@kingayy9267 3 жыл бұрын
@🔴 Bucket Head Was the guy on one of the shows like America's Got Talent? The name and bucket shtick sounds familiar.
@elliebellie7816
@elliebellie7816 4 ай бұрын
What about "right at noon" would suggest he had an appointment for a job interview. Most businesses I know of would not schedule a job interview for noon due to it being the lunch hour and most people taking lunch during that time.
@JD-bk6wj
@JD-bk6wj 2 жыл бұрын
Stress is the silent killer.
@anastasialove168
@anastasialove168 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work!
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
Yayyy! I love it when people say that! Dr Grande is the busiest guy in the world, with his channel, his patreon (which I love so much cuz there's stuff in there that you don't get to see, otherwise!) and the two books he wrote, plus all his private clients, a wife and children, and only God knows what else!! Its wonderful that you said that! Have a great day, Anastasia!🥰💚
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
Three books? Also cacti changes and shirt decisions!
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson oh wait.. There are three?!! I only saw two on Amazon when I bought his newest one .. Please help! Which is the 3rd one, please? 🙂
@nursejessie8149
@nursejessie8149 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure this is as mysterious and sensational as other KZbinrs make it out to be. I think it should be a warning that someone can be intelligent, good looking and seemingly “upbeat and optimistic” while suffering from crippling depression from barely keeping their heads above water for a long period of time. I’m not suggesting the family did anything wrong, they tried to help him financially but I think this is a good case for mental health intervention and checking in on your loved ones when they’re really struggling. Such a sad case. I feel almost certain he took his own life. Great analysis.
@wishingb5859
@wishingb5859 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that his landlord was stealing drugs and guns and selling them to people and Steven owed the landlord rent money and may have been asked to make some Christmas deliveries for the landlord in exchange for rent.
@austinsy8056
@austinsy8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@wishingb5859 the landlord was a very sketchy person I’ve seen his mugshot and he’s pretty scary looking
@BlacksFirst-xo1kr
@BlacksFirst-xo1kr Жыл бұрын
Well said Well said lady no lie
@advancedwatcher
@advancedwatcher 3 жыл бұрын
Suicide, murder, accidental death - I have no idea. But his behaviour speaks to me of depression, deep, long-term depression.
@xaimara13
@xaimara13 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched Stephanie Harlowe’s two-part series on this case, and I do lean more towards her theory (just my opinion, don’t come for me... iykyk), but this is definitely a very interesting analisis! Either way, a very sad case.
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to have a look at her video. Murder? Suicide? Disappeared? Hmm. 🤔
@Anyoneelsebutnope
@Anyoneelsebutnope 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustDr.S dodgy landlord who said he wasn't worried about unpaid rent. Yet Steven ends up missing right near where Steven's landlord who was charged with stealing meds from the pharmaceutical company he worked for...
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anyoneelsebutnope That's definitely possible. That DiMaggio guy seemed pretty sketchy, too. (I watched Stephanie Harlowe's video about this, just now.) It had a ton of information. Like the channel!
@xaimara13
@xaimara13 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustDr.S Glad you liked it, Stephanie is amazing.
@jenniferdono6990
@jenniferdono6990 3 жыл бұрын
Watched Stephanie’s video on this case not too long ago as well. She’s fantastic.
@ChicagoScorpion
@ChicagoScorpion Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've heard of the suspicious activity in a particular house, they definitely need to look more into those people if they can find them.
@fearlessjones
@fearlessjones 3 жыл бұрын
I’m worried about that small cactus. He looks like he’s about to jump… 😆
@mrparlanejxtra
@mrparlanejxtra 3 жыл бұрын
I'm worried too. It may be high on neuroticism.
@Mickey-os2my
@Mickey-os2my 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrparlanejxtra Remember not to diagnose , just speculate on what might be happening .
@sherunswithscissors
@sherunswithscissors 3 жыл бұрын
I think Mrs Grande will talk him back from the edge.
@mrparlanejxtra
@mrparlanejxtra 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mickey-os2my Quite correct
@LuciaScurei
@LuciaScurei 3 жыл бұрын
I think the mug is on the edge too 🤣
@faithcastillo9597
@faithcastillo9597 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, you slay me with your dry humor. 'bout lost it with images of a geriatric gang... couldn't keep it up...😂😹😂😹😂
@jockospillink7318
@jockospillink7318 3 жыл бұрын
Please cover people like Itzel Ramirez, a delivery driver who assaulted punched in the face a 67 year old woman over 10 times captured on video.
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 жыл бұрын
*WHAAAAT in the h-e-double hockey stix?? Thats insane, I def vote for Dr G to cover that, ive never heard of that incident before! What happened to the A-hole after doing that, do you know?*
@lyndao7356
@lyndao7356 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of that one either. Being an old woman though I acknowledge that we can be Nasty. Guard against it, ladies. -Catching more flies with Honey
@jockospillink7318
@jockospillink7318 3 жыл бұрын
@@Griselda_Puppy search the web
@jockospillink7318
@jockospillink7318 3 жыл бұрын
@@lyndao7356 look it up and then tell me if you think she deserved the beating
@lyndao7356
@lyndao7356 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched the Ramirez video. There are quite a few videos of Amazon drivers (and other business drivers) losing it. Those folks are run ragged and then get yelled at. I’m not excusing the battering but think twice, people. We’re all suffering in some way unknown to others. Peace ✌🏼
@merson812
@merson812 Ай бұрын
Poor Stephen, may God bless him and his family.
@Throatzillaaa
@Throatzillaaa 3 жыл бұрын
That tiny tiny boi on the corner of that little table made me laugh! 🌵
@bluaurora8635
@bluaurora8635 3 жыл бұрын
My cat would swipe it right off haha
@malabuha
@malabuha 3 жыл бұрын
When you're so tiny, you gotta be on edge to get noticed 😅👍
@eileenkyle7892
@eileenkyle7892 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluaurora8635 m
@gabrielamartiniuc6322
@gabrielamartiniuc6322 3 жыл бұрын
Awww . Poor guy. These disappearances are just so bewildering.
@CraftySouthpaw
@CraftySouthpaw 3 жыл бұрын
My suspicion is that he went into one of the houses and was (eventually) murdered. Perhaps he was lured there by a serial killer (perhaps on the pretense of a job interview), or perhaps he went there knowingly to partake in some kind of drug deal, and either made the wrong person angry or was double-crossed at some point.
@lorijohnson3088
@lorijohnson3088 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@glow1815
@glow1815 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@paulforder591
@paulforder591 8 ай бұрын
Most likely scenario.
@MattCarvin
@MattCarvin Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been interested to hear what Dr. Grande’s advice to Stephen would’ve been, at that point in his life when he felt like a burden with no sense of purpose, that this was the only way. At just 30. What a powerful force that must have been.
@susanmann5286
@susanmann5286 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this sad young man. Sorry for all his troubles.
@EmJay341
@EmJay341 3 жыл бұрын
Susan Mann if you want more on Steven please go check out my friend Arrin Stoner page. He has an extremely thorough playlist for Steven.
@jeannezan8575
@jeannezan8575 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't keep it up funniest thing I've ever heard love u doc keep em coming 😊
@annabaker6005
@annabaker6005 3 жыл бұрын
Geriatric delinquency; I love it! Too funny.
@marthasalter405
@marthasalter405 3 жыл бұрын
As Dr Grande discussed low crime rates among seniors, I couldn’t help but think about the Monty Python sketch on the dangers of “senile delinquents”
@violarulez
@violarulez Жыл бұрын
the more you look into this, the less it looks like he ended his life. there's no way they wouldnt have found him by now
@Irislaurel
@Irislaurel 3 жыл бұрын
This one left me sad.
@peccantis
@peccantis 3 жыл бұрын
For an LDS member yes, 30 very much is a critical milestone, especially for finding a spouse. When your two-digit age starts with a 2, everyone and their auntie is bending over backwards to introduce you to potential candidates. When you turn 30 that stops and you're more or less considered a lost cause, especially if you're male and without a steady job that pays enough to support a stay-at-home wife and a bunch of kids. And marriage and family are central to LDS culture and doctrine.
@Sarcastic165
@Sarcastic165 2 жыл бұрын
He just couldn’t keep it up 🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I actually laughed out loud 😆
@Noone9227
@Noone9227 2 жыл бұрын
I caught that too. Even funnier because I doubt Dr Grande realized what he said.
@Sarcastic165
@Sarcastic165 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noone9227 Oh I think he did 😂😂
@sweaters_and_harmony9525
@sweaters_and_harmony9525 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I feel for this Steven kid. I remember trying to figure out life in my late teens and early 20's. It was not easy. I can only imagine what sort of pressure he was probably feeling as a result of high expectations from his upbringing, and very possibly, from himself.
@gayleroslund10
@gayleroslund10 3 жыл бұрын
His story is so sad to me.
@angiedixon8017
@angiedixon8017 3 жыл бұрын
HA!🤣 “couldn’t keep it up” 😂 you caught me off guard with that one LOL 😆
@Akron162
@Akron162 3 жыл бұрын
This case makes me feel bad. The guy seemed like a genuinely decent guy who wasnt doing anything sketchy or questionable who fell on hard times and was depressed, and one day he just disappeared. Thats kind of sad.
@dixgun
@dixgun 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the last image of him was him walking purposefully with something under his arm makes suicide less likely, in my opinion, and yet none of the people in his life appear to have wished him harm.
@mardukl
@mardukl 3 жыл бұрын
Yay right on time!! Thanks doc !
@bruh_hahaha
@bruh_hahaha 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh poor guy. I hope wherever he is, he is at peace. 😔
@intentionallyqueen.478
@intentionallyqueen.478 3 жыл бұрын
Digging your shirt! You look like a high-school science/basketball coach today Doc!
@nolongerjuicyboiz4413
@nolongerjuicyboiz4413 3 жыл бұрын
I've always noticed that Dr. Grande blinks very slowly
@09leahcim
@09leahcim 3 жыл бұрын
I officially ran out of dr grande videos to see
@billhildebrand5053
@billhildebrand5053 3 жыл бұрын
My brother was coming from Austin to Canada in April 1985 and we had to search for him, found missing, and later found he had had a witness see his car go over a cliff near Henderson. Later they found his body in a Las Vegas morgue, where he had been for 3 months with his car in the demolition lot, and his Drivers License and Identification in the car. Only when a Travel Agency got involved that they discovered this. Why this happened in LV explains the lack of empathy on the police advising the family. This relates a bit to this coverup here....🤒. We had to search every place, including Amarillo, I remember they served soup made from pig stomach there... it was definitely Mexican. Thanks for your compassion, Dr. Grande. 🤠🤒
@JN-go2yq
@JN-go2yq 3 жыл бұрын
That’s so sad about your brother 😢
@billhildebrand5053
@billhildebrand5053 3 жыл бұрын
@@JN-go2yq Thankyou...
@bellyarty
@bellyarty 6 ай бұрын
Sending much love 💜💜💜
@apptouchtechnologies3722
@apptouchtechnologies3722 3 жыл бұрын
I considered supporting your patreon and did. Thanks for all you do DocG
@KarenMcAda
@KarenMcAda 3 жыл бұрын
Retiree Viagra Gangs 😂 Dr. Grande’s deadpan delivery - jokes in the same tone as narrative - are the best palate cleansers.
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