Neuro-Linguistic Programming | Richard Grannon Spartan Life Coach Channel Critique

[@suryacoapy5129]

Richard Grannon does have a BSc in psychology I believe. My impression after listening to many of his talks is that his knowledge and experience of psychology is far greater and deeper than you would expect of any life coach. His understanding of the development and consequences of trauma (cPTSD), is especially impressive and far beyond typical life coaching skills.

[@lailabadishi]

Surya Coapy I think he has a degree in Business management with psychology, which could effectively mean in reality he took a few business psychology classes. It would be good if he could answer all the questions that clients and followers of his have and clear up what qualifications he does have and who he is licensed by etc

[@suryacoapy5129]

I heard him say he has a BSc in psychology. I don’t know about licensing. But regardless of qualifications, it’s pretty clear to me after watching many of his videos and talks he has a deep and detailed knowledge of the human emotional structure that you don’t get from a few classes in business psychology. I’ve seen a lot of phonies and wannabes in my time, and in my opinion Richard is not one.

[@BunnyUK]

Surya Coapy - I have to disagree, the guy is a hustler, I used to respect him to an extent, but after his company bombarded my email address several times a day, trying to get me to buy his latest and very expensive course, I totally lost respect for him. Snake oil salesman is a term that springs to mind.

[@shithappenedwhatnow3028]

graduated with a BSc in Psychology from Aston University at age 21.

[@shithappenedwhatnow3028]

@@lailabadishi graduated with a BSc in Psychology from Aston University at age 21

[@Exsugarbabe1]

After a horrible relationship with a horrible person Richard Grannon’s videos really helped me move on. His interesting, human delivery helped me move on and became a little more confident.

[@ClepsidraSideral]

Ruth Barr Anecdotes doesn't validate his approach, though.

[@covidioten1400]

Clepsidra Sideral Doesn’t matter😉 If it works - it works!

[@CyberCheese392]

Placebo effect baby!

[@CyberCheese392]

@Claire Doesnt sound very scientific, so it is the placebo effect.

[@CyberCheese392]

@Claire That is a strawman fallacy. You dont need a degree to be scientific.

[@sleepinthegarden1228]

I found Richard grannon when I was coming out of a narc relationship. I was so confused about what was going on. He opened my eyes to my family dynamic growing up. He has helped me so much over the years. His channel also lead me to your channel. He saved me. Thank you for your videos.

[@cl5470]

If you still call the person "my narcissist " and still talk about them all the time, you may not be as healed from the abuse as you think.

[@stefankotz2242]

she didnt say my narcisist. what are you referring to?

[@n3k0rrrb]

@@stefankotz2242 my thoughts exactly. There is also no certification for reading comprehension when commenting on yt so....yeahhhhhhh 🤘😬

[@capgains]

Fake news ☝️

[@sleepinthegarden1228]

@@cl5470 this is a silly comment to even waste time leaving. Shouldn’t we be here helping each other heal? I mean that’s why I listen to these videos... maybe you also have some healing to do as well.

[@sheenacouture7657]

I had searched for help with my relationship for a decade. I went to two licensed phDs to talk about my confusion and brain fog. They took my money and did not help me. They hadn’t been through narcissist abuse and were unable to pick out the signs. Richard pulled me out of the darkness. He literally saved me and I was able to figure out what was going on and leave the abuser and get my brain and personality back. Richard is legit.

[@laurax1136]

Richard is great.

[@jedichild6815]

Agreed. And even doing his best work now. He keeps evolving, as anyone should.

[@AlgoRhythmmike]

@sheena Couture Channels who criticize other channels are typically ego maniacal losers or they are just immature. Why waste so much time and effort to try to prove something . Channels like this just need to leave people alone, they aren't helping anyone with this crap.

[@debrachase3131]

Me too. It wasn't so much his NLP work as it was turning the light on the tactics of covert narcissism. I bless whichever friend of mine first shared one of his videos on the subject. He's saved lives.

[@marahmoonflower7926]

Richard showed me the tools how to manage my cptsd. It is always work, and it is worth the results.

[@kimberleyannehollyman1691]

I have suffered from pretty severe CPTSD due to childhood abuse & trauma as well as domestic abuse into & throughout my adult relationships. I began listening to Richard Grannon's channel after I had hit absolute rock bottom after 6 yrs of hard drug use, losing everyone & everything. I was homeless & also had fallen into another relationship with a "narcissist" & was experiencing mental, verbal & physical abuse...again. I found his channel extremely relatable, easy to listen to & follow & it went a long way to helping me heal & get my life back. I had been strung out on meth & crack & despite 3 attempts at rehab, had not been able to quit. I ended up, through listening to Grannon's channel & others quitting on my own. I now have 3 yrs 4 mos clean & sober. I am no longer homeless & live in a little off grid cabin in the woods surrounded by nature. I also managed to ditch the "narcissist" and the "flying monkeys" & am now much wiser when it comes to the company I keep. I had seen psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists, a life coach, been in & out of hospitals (even a 3 mos stint in a top notch private psychiatric hospital) from the ages of 5 to 45. Nothing & no one it seemed were able to help me & as I said I was suicidal & at absolute rock bottom. Idc what technique he uses, what license he has or doesn't have. Grannon's channel helped me immensely in reclaiming my life when 40 yrs of licensed & supposed highly educated psychiatrists & psychologists, including a 3 mos program at a world renowned private psychiatric hospital couldn't.

[@melindafinnigan172]

That’s fantastic Kimberley. I like Richard too. Hope you are still going well and enjoying your life in the woods, cabin and nature. Always take the best care of yourself as you can which it sounds like you are doing really welll.

[@emilycastleman2647]

Kimberly that’s the most wonderful example of a powerful lady who was sick and tired of being sick and tired and chased the solution!

[@mr.onethirtyeight5088]

TLDR

[@kateskeys]

@@mr.onethirtyeight5088 what’s you’re point?😊

[@jacintaaconng1]

+

[@izzymeadows1748]

I have nothing but praise for Richard. When coming out of a narc relationship and dealing with ptsd from historical barb abuse ( parental ) his no nonsense, clear and relatable advice was a life saver for me . I can’t thank him enough. He is easy to watch, down to earth and real.

[@deesnyder8201]

And he is clever, fun to watch. Overall I think he is pretty amazing. Very knownledgeable.

[@psychologyrelated538]

Very witty to

[@notatheist]

I get it. I hear the same thing from a group therapy project where religion is the primary focus of obtaining success with overcoming mental health issues. Allah and the Christian Yaweh are credited for success in the same meetings. Cultists praise their leaders. These are extreme examples on one end of the spectrum. If Richard's content didn't contain even a grain of truth, he wouldn't be successful. The problems with his system is the use of pseudoscientific woo like NLP.

[@robbies8101]

I think Richard is amazing! Smart, funny, he states many times he is a work in progress... As we all are. He has a couple of channels.. check him out for yourself

[@jasminflower5608]

I agree,Richard is great and smart

[@jennybetty1512]

Yet....all the "licensed professionals" I have paid over the years have been unable to accurately identify, explain, and educate me on the traumatic response that has bogged me down. Mr. Grannon's free course on emotional flashbacks have made a marked improvement in my daily life. As a 48 year old sufferer of CPTSD (not even recognized diagnosticly in the US) I can't possibly explain what a difference these techniques make. Only those of us with this experience can truly understand. We are so let down by the professional, registered, licensed, psychological experience we are searching out our own solutions. We yearn to thrive!! It works. It is helping people that believed they were beyond help. To have hope that I can heal is priceless!! Thank you. 🙃

[@caitm8209]

I think he is really good at taking all the info he learns and coordinating it in a teachable practical way. In a laymen way. I don't think a lot of professional therapists can translate their scientific training into practical lay usage. At least in my experience.

[@marciasloan534]

CPTSD is what ?

[@alleyway2]

@@marciasloan534 childhood post traumatic stress disorder

[@marciasloan534]

Thanks Alley Sway

[@jennybetty1512]

@@marciasloan534 technically... it's "Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder". 🙂

[@robertloerwald3]

After spending two years shaking with anger and frustration and hurt, and half my hair literally falling out, I came across Richard Grannon’s channel and finally everything made sense. It’s been almost three years since then, and I’m still working through so much shit, but I’m worlds away from where I was then. Yeah, I outgrew him and moved on to other channels, (and eventually began working on the stuff that led me to allowing a person to treat me that way in the first place and began dealing with how angry with myself and ashamed I felt because of it), but what I got from him was invaluable.

[@orchidsrising7910]

Agreed. He’s been invaluable to me, too. I’m super grateful

[@johnlinden7398]

Yes, but did your hair grow back ? Just kidding ! Enjoyed your commentary !

[@orchidsrising7910]

@@johnlinden7398 When I was in the height of ptsd (high panic and adrenaline) for 7 months, I took a shower and when combing out my hair, literally I combed out about half of its volume. I was like wtf is happening. Very scary, but it’s since grown back healthy because I’ve since calmed the ptsd acute stage, and take care of myself from every angle possible, to never experience something like that again. Strange how as my mind healed, my hair grew back 💖

[@marciasloan534]

I love that you arrived,learned,and Moved on. That is growth.Healing.

[@Star-uk1kh]

Glad you found some information that helped you to heal . I've recently come across HG Tudor who has a KZbin channel , HG is a diagnosed narcissist and psychopath who is brutally honest about the mind and motives of a narc. I've learned more from him in a month than10 years reading and watching other channels . I guess straight from the horses mouth is the best way to learn ... As for Richard Grannon he has given many talks and teaches workshops in ' 21 Studios ' which is a vile misognistic channel . He has one video in there titled ' Women created toxic masculinity.' which is particularly revealing into his true nature :/ .

[@orchidsrising7910]

Richard Grannon is among the best thinkers today in terms of helping people overcome and grow out of C-ptsd. He’s on his own healing path, too. I’ve witnessed him evolving incredibly over the years, and his current content has immeasurably helped me. His insight into the healing from C-ptsd topic goes far and beyond what any therapist or psychiatrist I’ve ever met, has been able to come up with.

[@therespectedlex9794]

As he once said himself, at a seminar I attended, over five years ago, narcissists can give you much insight. Cerebral i.e. brainy, is a category of narcissist, and they're full of information. He even said you could write a book on that subject. Remember, we've been kept in the dark all out lives.

[@NiinaSKlove]

@@NuevoExistence - Exactly. Just like there’s really bad “life coaches” out there.

[@lisakowal8506]

I watch you from time to time. You are interesting. Normally I don't know who you're talking about, but I enjoy it. You always come at things from a different perspective than I do. May I comment on your review of Richard Grannon's site and channel? I am very familiar with them and what he teaches. Your disclaimer of not critiquing him personally is laudable, thanks for that. I just saw a horrible, unnecessary kill-piece on a KZbin influencer by another and it just made me sad. I do not know Grannon, I've just followed him for years. If you've only watched 10 or so videos you'd need to watch a 100 or so to get the full depth of his knowledge, skill, and experience over the years. His life story could be a best seller. I wouldn't underestimate him. He's matured as we all do. Interestingly, we never get to watch a person who's gone through narcissistic abuse (twice) so voyeuristically as he suffered, worked hard, and healed before our eyes. His IQ and EQ are so high. he can retain ridiculous amounts of information, speak intelligently in story form, and plainly enough that people with moderate intelligence can follow it all. He can be absolutely funny and fascinating. Or goofy. Aren't we all sometimes? He has been quite generous with his time and talents. Generally, he's done so much research before he even broaches a subject you're gonna learn something good. He often states that he is not an expert. He never intended to tackle narcissism it happened organically because his audience kept questioning him about it. So in the course of sharing his story, it mushroomed into what it is now. He has been leaning away /wrapping up the teaching about narcissism (only so much to say right?) into healing and has been doing so for quite some time. He is sharing what he has found works for him, speaking from his own experiences. He has never claimed otherwise. He seems to always credit his sources such as Pete Walker or some obscure monk who wrote a book in the 1600s. He seems to be an original, contemplative content curator, distributing that content into the minds of traumatized people. He has helped so many. Now I'll get off my soapbox. :)

[@therespectedlex9794]

@@lisakowal8506 Richard Grannon is a disingenuous, intelligent actor/salesman thug. Pete Walker is practically noone, and virtually doesn't even exist at least on KZbin. I saw this from somebody who was a desperate and quite obsessed fan, and victim of narcissistic abuse or CPTSD myself. I can go back 6 years with this. Richard said that I talk bullshit. I'm not here to be bullied by life coaches or anyone.

[@DMCdantenero112]

@@NuevoExistence Well yeah, most psychiatrists are terrible because they would rather put victims of abuse on a sh*tload of pills and blame them on their suffering, instead of trying to fix the root of their problems (their abusive spouse/family members/friends). Richard Grannon actually explains how narcissistic abuse can affect you for the rest of your life, and provides many free resources on how to move forward. Amazing how a life coach has probably saved more lives than qualified "therapists".

[@christine6683]

Richard has been a great help to me. His free videos helped me to start the healing process when I could not afford Therapy. He does recommend seeing a licensed Therapist and it was through his material that I realized I really needed to start seeing one. I use the two together as I can not afford to see my Therapist as much as I would like to. I share the things I get from Richards videos and so far my Therapist has not had issues with anything I have adopted from Richard. I think what is lost by some professionals is that Richard lived what he discusses and I think the reason he is so popular is that the Psychiatric community as a whole has not been available to everyone and Richard is throwing out a life line. I did not even know that I had a explainable issue until hearing Richard. I would have continued living my life just believing I was faulty. Nothing he has ever said implied to me that he was taking the place of licensed Therapy.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Yes, I agree. I worry about people being preyed upon by unlicensed and unskilled 'therapists' but RG doesn't make such claims and he is more like a very informed person who has lived life and come through it and has a lot to offer. He would be a great therapist, I think. But he can reach a lot of people this way and help them gain the tools they need to find their own way safely through the dark.

[@emilycastleman2647]

There is nothing wrong with taking what helps and moving on, I’m so glad you got real help and improved. The issue with Richard posing as a caring guru, is he is grooming his victims for gaining his own supply with no therapeutic plan.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@emilycastleman2647 I didn't have any issues from which I 'got real help and improved' from RG. However, your point is a good one for all of these people, who I see as preying on the vulnerable who need help or support or even basic psychological education. They are doing this purely for their own self-promotion and money and it's irresponsible. They tend to create this community of people who learn labels like Narcissist and weaponise it. I was saying really that at least he is very broadly read and doesn't spend his time, that I've seen, pretending to analyse celebrities and create this vitriolic gossip posing at psychology culture.He draws from many sources in literature, Eastern philosophy and psychology and has some interesting thoughts. It terrifies me to think of vulnerable people turning to a KZbin 'expert' for support or help. So dangerous and, just as you say, no plan etc. When my daughter needed a therapist I prayed that she would find the right one for her and she did. That will give her a good, solid foundation for life if and whenever she needs it. It's a very valuable process and is about so much more than labeling people.

[@ramizureik8251]

May I ask what did you discover about your self

[@emilycastleman2647]

@@tarawalsh-arpaia3928 You reveal your status and make your flying monkey point by attacking Dr. Grande, an authentic psychology provider. By going so far as to accuse him of “vitriolic gossip” for commenting on celebrities in the news, though validating the predator/poser Richard Grannon for sound bites he snagged and repeats to sound legit….Congratulations! You are a bona fide groupie! I wish you the very best.

[@stadiasong4615]

Sweet, I had no idea I was a certified master in NLP until I found out you don't need to meet any criteria. Very cool

[@melt7891]

Hahahaha

[@marciasloan534]

ME2!!!!!

[@debraboaze2991]

DO NEED EXPERIENCE, MUCH READING AND BE KINDLY SENSITIVE LIKE GRANNON.

[@finallyfinally9317]

@@debraboaze2991 🤣😂🤣😂 kindly sensitive your so hilarious

[@marciasloan534]

Ha ha I thought you were referring to Dr G. as SWEET

[@cw6392]

Richard puts out a lot of free content for people who require hand-outs and I am grateful for his sharing. He is not pushy to buy his courses and never encourages donations. I like his delivery. I like the way he talks in silly voices and makes jokes and seems like a friend who cares. His videos don’t seem to have editing cuts either.

[@FreeBrunoPowroznik]

Silly voices? Isn't that just his scouse accent?

[@cw6392]

@@FreeBrunoPowroznik nope- he does funny impressions imo.

[@911dips5]

Because he is entertaining, he is trying to give advice as a professional in a field where he doesn't have the license to do so.

[@cw6392]

@@911dips5 he’s not very convincing that he’s trying to give advice as he says in each video that he’s not giving advice. The main draw to his videos is that he is very personable and certainly entertaining and it’s a breath of fresh air for those naturally drawn to videos about narcissists.

[@911dips5]

@@cw6392 he legally has to say he is not giving advice.....because he is not trained to do so

[@catherine7890]

I believe Richard has a psychology degree, he is not a psychologist however has a degree that is more helpful than most life coaches. Victims of narcissistic abuse are not served well by a substantial amount of licensed therapists. Richard is a lot more helpful than many liscensed proffessionals. I agree that NLP is a bit questionable but Richards methods have helped a lot of people. He seems to be very responsible in what he does. I like his approach.

[@solutionfocused7147]

Ditto!!

[@suryacoapy5129]

Totally agree.

[@Irene-gq4jr]

@M M A bit harsh. I do think Ricahrd Grannon has many useful insights that can help people (like me) see where they went wrong, but for me it's not technically helpful in understanding why and how not to do it again. I wouldn't rubbish the man, he has put a lot of interesting content out there albeit there is a strong element of self-promotion, which is something that poisons trust on this platform. If you thought he was reading what you wrote, would you be so unkind? There's every chance he is reading these comments, please offer constructive criticism.

[@keiwasimpson3516]

Yes

[@Irene-gq4jr]

@M M Please refer to my direct comment on this video before you dispense further insults in my direction. Your anger is misplaced and I am not the punchbag you are looking for.

[@zjewelswatchingjems8723]

Richard grannan saved my life I've been following him since April 2018 and he's the only reason I understand complex post-traumatic stress response and he's the only reason I'm breathing. I would also like to add that he woke me up from a 18 year toxic fog to remember who the woman was that raised me which opened doors to all the proof

[@juanvaldez5422]

Toxic fog? That’s it , that’s the name for it!! I have been struggling to find a term to describe what I’m going through mentally after the dissolution of a marriage with a covert female narcissist. Thank you , thank you !

[@annelikindlund9183]

Dosen’t matter.

[@AngelaMay66]

Same story here. Richard saved me. Narcs sneak up on a person and literally go to tremendous lengths to destroy the victim. Reaching out for a lifeline and finding wisdom was something I never found other than You Tube.

[@juliechurley2716]

I feel the same. He’s definitely the best I’ve found on KZbin.

[@s.c.581]

I am one who found his content helpful, some years back. He informed me of covert narcs and did it with humor. He made me laugh, at a time I felt extremely hurt and bewildered, by deep betrayal. I was able to gain a strong backbone, greatly in part to him, as well as other life coaches, who also experienced betrayal and abuse. As such I have been able to help a few others who also have gone through deceptive and abusive behavior. I understand your opinion differs. I have just recently watched some of your videos, that I also have enjoyed.

[@chandaniberry9369]

This has exactly my experience as well. Richard was one person who helped me realise that I wasn't crazy only the one being gas lighted.

[@grey.knight]

@Apple Grappler44 hey Richard

[@Medietos]

@Apple Grappler44 not even badmouths,- doesn't really say anything much about Richard G -or others that the titles promise.

[@Maureen_Schilder]

@Apple Grappler44 a covert narc himself Dr Grande - to be cutting down others who help so many -- He'd have to pay me to go to see Dr Grande for help - he's not a well person - I've never seen a human side to him ever.

[@Maureen_Schilder]

not to be cruel to Dr Grande - but the planet is being taken down by insecure power-mongers like him and we've had way too much of this. If you don't want to help this world heal - than please just go away !!! Hippocratic Oath - cause no harm & be quiet.

[@sacredlight7667]

I experienced more harm from the licensed marriage counselor who saw me and my psychopathic ex. for apprx 13 years. Her negligence and incompetence kept me in an abusive marriage for way longer than necessary had she had a shred of skill. She also reinforced much of the harm on me. I'd been reporting gaslighting and blame shifting from the beginning and she discounted me and minimized the abuse all along. I'd trust a life coach who has first hand experience over someone with a plaque on their wall. Richard Grannon's channel helped save me and was foundational on my path to heal from a marriage that almost killed me. His videos helped rapidly clear the cognitive dissonance and heal the trauma bond as did other channels like his. Why are you spending time criticizing other channels? I'm genuinely curious.

[@ephemera...]

He is responding to questions in the comments. People asked for his opinion.

[@pertelote4526]

@Alias Nom de Guerre Unfortunately, I could tell a very similar story. The therapist (a licensed psychiatrist with a PhD) chose to "play the game" in the narcissist's team and devalued my perception of reality and minimised my doubts as well as fears; he took the side of the "kind, well-mannered and fragile" ex who had actually been diagnosed with NPD earlier by the relevant medical authorities. Clearly, the therapist knew next to nothing about how abusive and toxic clinically diagnosed narcissists could be and fell for the NPD's version of our relationship. Sometimes I felt that I was the crazy one; I tend to think that the therapist made a conscious choice in that respect (or was an utter fool).

[@pertelote4526]

@@Ishtar2419 Really unprofessional indeed.

[@sacredlight7667]

Olli Himself I agree 100%

[@jazgem1083]

I had the same experience with multiple therapists. I've learned more in the last year watching channels like Grannon's, Alan Robarge and Brianna MacWilliam than all of my marriage counseling and individual therapy combined (about 12 years worth). The field of psychology has severely ignored the effects of not detecting Cluster B disorders in marriage counseling and therefore treating the couple as the typical couple that comes for marriage counseling. The amount of damage this deficit has caused families, especially the children, is immense. I thought that if we kept going to marriage counseling and I worked hard at doing everything I could to make him happy, that we would finally build a healthy family. I was living in a fantasy world. Grannon was the first KZbinr that opened my eyes.

[@Desiree143]

I've always preferred to have someone who has been through it and have made it out successfully over someone just going by text book to coach me or council me. Nothing compares to human experience when it comes to understanding another human

[@lesliekulik3693]

I go by science. But to each their own

[@Desiree143]

@@lesliekulik3693 absolutely. Science is very important. I agree 💯. That's no. 1. What I am saying is experience will instinctively and naturally provoke their knowledge into diving much deeper. Experience gets us closer to the core of the issue .

[@YoureRightIThink]

What if you just search for both? Also sometimes personal experience can make one be biased

[@KoreaMojo]

Not everyone shares their experience directly. Often what interests people in a career is personal experience. I can tell you that most professionals are taught to keep their business to themselves. It's about the client not you. That being said, depending on the level and professional you may see more sharing. Just don't assume because someone doesn't volunteer information that they don't have it. Also, it's very easy to recognize clinical portions of training as personal experience, it's experience with people from a safe distance. The only aspect missing is how you would become involved with these people and the clinician would not help you so much from knowing how they personally would have become involved with these patients because you could've reached that place different ways.

[@onetimeiateanindonesianguy6183]

@@Desiree143 that’s crazy it’s full circle. You presumably are a codependent suffering at the hand of narcissism. This guy comments in a way that is snarky and entitled and you reply with much thought and calculation in an attempt to “disarm” them “save” them to show them the way that you mean no harm and are okay. You care too much and so do they in different ways. Amazing how life works if you know where to look and how to do it you can derive the biggest truths from the smallest displays.

[@greghunter6951]

I enjoy Sam Vaknin for pure knowledge and equally Richard Grannon for his down to earth realism about the world of narcissism. They have both taught me a lot and made me more able to handle these types of people in my life and really just opened my eyes to it all.

[@sorceryfarm6535]

Thank you for taking the time to make these videos, Doc. I sort of accidentally stumbled upon one when I couldn't sleep late one night and thought, 'Why not?' I was hooked pretty much immediately; your presentation style is great, and your humor is drier than yesterday's toast, which I appreciate. I've watched nearly all of your videos, and the interest they sparked in me led me to enroll in a 2 year psych program. I hope you keep doing what you do for a long time to come.

[@philipdann5006]

Sorcery Farm U inflated his ass. Now he is farting away 💨

[@IMWeira]

Sorcery Farm, Agree entirely.

[@ryanellis2197]

I find Grannon extremely sinister and I can't put my finger on why. Something just seems 'off' about him, and my gut is almost always right. Working with incredibly troubled people over decades, I've found myself spotting when someone is not presenting their true selves. That said, if he works for some then okay but he has no professional credentials.

[@splabbity]

Odd coincidence that I was reading Combating Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan a couple hours ago, and NLP is mentioned in the book. From what I understood, the ethics of it depend on the motivations of the practitioner.

[@mkayokay3192]

NLP is like anything else. It can be used for good or bad. It is extremely powerful

[@herseem]

That's correct, it is a philosophical approach about effectiveness, and it is down to the practitioner to use the techniques with integrity or not. And unfortunately, it has - not surprisingly - attracted people who are interested in power rather than truth, such as some sales people. But it can also be used to do a lot of good, and I consider myself one of those.

[@Dena.inaGirl]

Correct

[@jrosner6123]

Correct. It is a subjective method, with no established scientific standard.

[@michaelmcgee335]

@@jrosner6123 There are psychological reasons NLP works but it’s been high-jacked.

[@mandymushroom8152]

Richard has helped me and I am so grateful. A lot of other narcissism videos are about blame, - he helped me to understand myself so I could take responsibility for myself. I don’t think he only uses nlp, he uses Freudian psychology, transactional analysis and many philosophical ideas. He’s is one of the most interesting voices out there and really positively connects many people.

[@omarra6781]

Richard speaks to the common man/woman. He's imperfect like the rest of us, but as far as I'm concerned he's been nothing but honest about that. He's helped me a lot, too.

[@emilycastleman2647]

Grannon “uses” plagiarized information from authentic, educated speakers to repeat for his act. I went to see him twice and had questions he had no clue about. He is no guru, just another narcissistic blustering know it all. He could possibly try to become an actor for the movies, but I bet he’s too thin skinned to be able to work with directors telling him what to do.

[@emilycastleman2647]

@@omarra6781 He has not been honest a day in his life or he wouldn’t be suckering vulnerable people into viewing him as God when he has never trained for it.

[@ruizheli1974]

@@omarra6781 That'd be an understatement because I genuinely don't think his early videos are not that bad (they are less sophisticated of course). Other than that I totally agree with you. I see Richard as a fellow journeyman who constantly shares his constructive thoughts with you. If I need to tackle a specific issue then I may go to a mental health specialist, but if I want to have an overview I would rather listen to him more. When he (recently) get to the realization that philosophy is one's mental shield I was frankly quite impressed. I think he is an important voice because these days the proper psychiatrists are getting increasingly less trustworthy.

[@omarra6781]

@@ruizheli1974 Well said. The psych field is being overrun with Wokeness, for one thing. And I once had a psychologist tell me "We don't get here by accident", meaning they often have a lot of issues as well and got into the business to either find answers for themselves, help others find answers, or in some cases maybe a misguided sense of altruism.

[@SweetBlackSistah]

I've actually learned a lot from Richard. He was actually the first channel I started listening to in learning about narcissistic abuse. He "confirmed" (what I believed) that I was married to narcissistic nut-job and before he could damage me further, I got the hell out from that relationSHIT.

[@judyscheiber3661]

You cannot successfully diagnose a narcissist by listening to a loud, obnoxious content creator here on You Tube. One that exhibits the same behavior and ego of the narcissist.

[@acertree1980]

@@judyscheiber3661 people who have been unfortunate enough to have been born to narcissistic parents and gone on to marry or partner a narcasists, believe me when I say ..WE KNOW. The mental health institution needs to catch up. 30 years ago, there was no support or help from these prediters and now there is thanks to KZbin 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 #weknow

[@parrotshootist3004]

@@judyscheiber3661 OP didn't' diagnose anything. However did use 'narcisstic' implying, or rather stating, a likeness similarity or commonality with, rather than specifically diagnosing as. Which is quite different.

[@maryquinn2638]

@@anajadwa6875 I

[@ngkngk875]

JLS he’s an admitted narcissist himself. He admitted to it in one of his videos

[@maritaz7577]

Went to three licensed therapists.... they where no help in adressing complex ptsd. Grannon was. big time

[@thegardenoflove7329]

PTSD needs to be treated by a professional psychologist

[@maritaz7577]

@@thegardenoflove7329 I agree but what to do when the licensed psychologists do not have experience nor knowledge in treating COMPLEX ptsd?

[@stevenevangelist5221]

Try youtube ptsd frequency, or ptsd binaural beats. Write a journal. Helps your subconscious mind. Good luck. Not a doctor, nor licensed.

[@jondough679]

Grannon saved my life - he was the first to explain and identify covert narcs on yt - nothing much to do with nlp

[@Su_aSponte]

same. He has really opened up my understanding of the motivating factors behind our behaviors. If people only listen to a few of his videos, i don’t think they can fairly see the evolution of his work and practice. Bless him. He’s a wounded warrior. Nobody else has been able to help me as much as him. Thank god we can get free access to this practical information. Traditional psychology is unaffordable, dispassionate and frankly, lazy. Just my opinion but....the proof is the people like you and me that were able to see some light at the end of the tunnel and know it wasn’t a train!😆

[@emilycastleman2647]

Grannon is a Social Media Influencer, he has a lovely trained voice, he has ZERO education in psychology or therapy. He is an actor, a poser. He makes his living off of pretending to be a compassionate guru by the money he makes from likes. I was in serious need of a trauma therapist when I sought Richard Grannon in California. I saw him speak on TWO occasions with a small group. Both times when I asked him about the specifics of flashbacks he began to demean me. From those two experiences I realized he has no education beyond what he has read or been told toward helping others heal.

[@Su_aSponte]

@@emilycastleman2647 thank you. I’m starting to see some of what you’re talking about. I still have found a lot of his teaching helpful but I have definitely disagreed with him on some points.

[@emilycastleman2647]

@@Su_aSponte Richard Grannon began to discredit EMDR as snake oil, I disagreed. He snapped that he had never heard credible evidence of it being effective! I said Well the United States Military has been using it for years.

[@sherrysc3848]

Me too with out all the religion stuff

[@bluegypsy71]

I watched Richard Grannon for years, his channel has gone through so many iterations and while he does have a lot of insights, he has gradually gone down quite a darker path full of conspiracy theories, snide anger at the smallest hint of criticism and rants on how women have ruined men. He seems to be becoming the bully he used to rail against, which is unfortunate and concerning, as so many vulnerable people hang on his every word.

[@maxi4680]

Very well phrased. Totally agree

[@s13rr4buf3]

Drugs

[@avertingapathy3052]

Never liked him as he had a certain redpilled hustle culture bluntness aesthetic but he does seem to boil down concepts to the way in which one can understand when under severe stress. I guess his content resonated with me despite better judgement. Do you believe he is generally helpful? Or at least his videos from two years ago.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

As we can all see, Mr Grannon is well loved and highly regarded. Most valuable he is a very effective teacher who does not get distracted by the celebrity analysis nonsense but focuses his attention on teaching his viewers and speaking to the many challenges of millions of regular lives. I have many degrees including law and a doctorate in cognitive psychology/ developmental trauma. But I do not directly work with 'clients'. As a lawyer/barrister, I do work a lot with DA (domestic abuse) cases, though. I must say Mr Grannon is someone I would recommend very highly, if for no other reason (and there are many) it would be due to his engaged manner and ability to effectively reach out toward people and make them feel acceptable and open to hearing him and thus, as shown below, often seeking further professional help if needed. No amount of degrees can replace that ability to engage and build rapport, especially online, and Mr Grannon is the real thing.

[@menotyou6254]

Spot on mahalo

[@Joelswinger34]

Just because he is highly regarded does not mean he is competent.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@Joelswinger34 That is extremely true and i appreciate you making that point to me. Normally I would not approve of him or someone like him because I worry about vulnerable people turning to untrained 'therapists/coaches' and the level of harm that is done. Thanks you for reminding me of this.

[@NuLiForm]

He Helps people..if i knew nothing else about him that alone would be enough. ..perhaps it is as simple as using some of these new age words to reach a wider audience of abused?...i would never judge him for that even if i could. He is also Sincere.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@NuLiForm I agree about Mr Grannon. he doesn't pretend to be anything other than he is and, frankly, I just think he has a great gift for engaging with all people. I think he takes a holistic approach, which psychologists cannot really do since our spiritual (not religious) lives aren't 'scientific'. But feeling connected and energised by one's life is absolutely a most important thing and he engages with that as well.

[@dullbrass]

Very interesting. Now I would love to hear your take on Sam Vaknin.

[@marinaking648]

Oh me too!

[@AL-yq6kr]

Yeah! Good ole Sam who promotes a “documentary” about how social media can be so toxic that it attributes to suicide and then calls people RETARDS in the comment section.

[@Dtella55]

Exactly...100!

[@c1rcl3s]

Well, he is an admitted cerebral narcissist.

[@AL-yq6kr]

Kristine True and Richard didn’t get rid of his buddy’s comment.

[@ot6960]

Richard is in process. His work is an externalisation of his attempt to work through his own process. I think many people resonate so deeply with the appearance of his process because Richard projects such an authoritative and absolute belief / persona re: overcoming the impact of trauma - he has enormous manipulative charisma. People therefore get swept along in what is HIS process, flowing into his process as if it is their Answer. A client group that has been specifically and overtly gas-lit about emotional and psychological abuse and has had their boundaries smashed and been forced to merge with their abuser's psyche as a result, is a perfect audience for Richard to use, to project, re-enact and try and process his own pathology, because his audience can merge with Richard's process to the exclusion of their own. Note that he tolerates virtually zero criticism of any of his output, only adulation, hence exacerbating this merging dynamic. It is obvious that Richard is utterly split himself. He presents as 'the ultimate good guy', the potentially all-round perfect male, but as many of the comments here show, behind the forcefully and resolutely projected image he is anything but the interity he so loudly proclaims. And yet because of his own split, to which he is blind, he fully and absolutely believes and therefore forcefully projects this 'saviour archetype' and people lap it up wholesale, without exercising any form of discernment. I have never understood the number of fawning women on his channel - they obviously have zero insight into just how horrendously difficult and challenging a relationship with him would be. Imagine the baggage! And why would anyone imagine it could possibly be a healthy potential connection, with someone who is currently on the emotional, psychological and spiritual level of befriending and believing a psychopathic narcissist speaks the most wisdom and truth he has ever heard. Think about the message he is communicating about what is really going on within his own inner reality/sense of self/his own making sense of the world! There is a phenomenally huge split / gap / level of self-deception going on here. He is ultimately deeply controlling, manipulative and utterly self-righteous to the nth degree, about the value of his single-minded 'messianic' vision and mission to the world, even as with his words, he proclaims the opposite, yet repeatedly jokes about 'taking over'/world domination. I write all this from personal experience and having spent 6 years fighting my (conscious) addiction to him. Fighting all out to break what I knew was a blind addiction/merging trauma re-enactment scenario, that I was helplessly caught up in. His feelgood NLP cues which he deliberately places within his videos I reckon played a huge part in this addiction. We all want to feel good in the midst of spirit-breaking trauma work. But what if the medicine itself, brings huge, unseen, powerfully negative and destructive side-effects to deal with, ON TOP OF a person's original trauma work. Huge gratitude to the raw mum for having had the tremendous courage and integrity to speak out and help finally break the spell for me. Trying to take red flags seriiously, when everything on the surface appears to be so good and positive and healing, (all constructive critcism/opposing comments/failed and unsuccessful clients being blocked and silenced), is impossible. Use your critical faculties and keep listening for those huge red flags, no matter how painful they may be to make conscious, simply because we each so deeply long to believe in someone to come along and 'save us' / love us back into our own selves, into our oneness/wholeness, which trauma shattered! Beware self-deceit! At the end of the day, if we truly want to learn how to thrive from out of a place of wholeness, we are each radically responsible for REPEATEDLY, ENDLESSLY, processing/addressing/calling out the self-deceit within our own selves and lives. Only I am responsible for having got sucked into a hall of twisting and turning mirrors, because of my own bottomless wounds, blindness and need. A huge, beautiful and profound learning experience, a necessary learning experience to truly access and cleanse MY OWN deepest, sick, split, relational dynamics that resulted from an identity-denying childhood.

[@ot6960]

... someone who sees beyond the story that was written FOR us, no matter how deeply branded/burnt it was into our flesh/our psyche from conception. Claiming to shun spiritual-bypassing is just that, a claim, words only. Claiming to shun something does not by default make it a reality in your life. Versus, Before. [Jer 1:5.]

[@amoremio9795]

Hi, I kind of agree but still think he definitely makes more good than damage. Maybe I am wrong but probably the only danger you put yourself into by following him is wasting your time and falling for some esoteric stuff for a while. And meanwhile you learn to give the right name to your abusers and their tactics and you become more effective and confident when dealing with them. However your observations are true, there's no need to demonize him. Stay well

[@ot6960]

@@amoremio9795 I have wondered about amending my comment to also hi-light the life-changing impact of his wisdom and acknowledge his unbelievable strength of will in finding a way of turning his own impossibly catastrophic abuse into something healing for others, yet I obviously haven't - this time at least. Because who knows a person's motivation at root, despite their professed best intentions. Thanks for your comment. You communicate with a great heart it seems to me. PS I 'live in the esoteric' (what is hidden) and its his spiritual blindness that has always caused me my greatest concern. He Loves, there's no doubt, but he doesn't know himself which makes him dangerous/open to manipulation himself by stuff he isn't even conscious of yet / hasn't developed the inner seeing he needs to be able to see it yet. May all of us go safely within our personal and unique interior abyss, should we venture there. Grace and peace.

[@carolb6511]

Interesting that you had that experience with Richard. I’ve followed his work and taken a couple of his courses with good results. But I have never seen him as any kind of guru and have disagreed with some of his ideas and tactics, while still benefiting from useful techniques he presents. Take what works and forget the rest.

[@apegrasshoplizard]

Well spoken ! Your insight and experience and the fact that you were willing to share them openly and objectivly speaks volumes about your integrity and self awareness. Stay well brother OT !

[@katmau6138]

Richard Grannon safed my mental sanity. He helped me more to cope than any doctor ever could. Im f***ing glad I found him back then!!

[@danamaximilian3998]

Richard Grannon saved my life. Enough said!

[@judyscheiber3661]

In other words, he sucked you in.

[@ClepsidraSideral]

Poor thing.

[@bballmomma5900]

May I ask how?

[@bballmomma5900]

Elizaveta Z I was genuinely curious so I hope the comment about idiots was meant for someone else. I’m glad you found help yourself with the courses. Best wishes:)

[@a007girl]

You save your own life. Never give your power away.

[@Lark-jh9gx]

Dr. Todd Grande, I think you are the hardest working person on KZbin. What with all the researching that you do for your fans. Thank you.

[@DrGrande]

Thank you so much!!

[@claudine98052]

Totally agree with you. He is hard working and meticulous.

[@zoricarv7963]

I guess there are different ways that someone can offer helpful insights. Grannon may not have full credentials but he is honest and smart in his own way and really has an open mind ( and last but not the least; a sense of humour). He reaches people emotionally and doesn’t beat around the bush theoretically. He is helpful!

[@annelikindlund9183]

He is fake

[@DarkCuriosity]

Years ago I found him down to earth, engaging and his content helpful. I think today you would have even more reasons for critique the way his channel and attitude went. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something is off and I don't trust him anymore. He himself got somehow more angry, not taking critique very well, there are signs of victim shaming, talking in circles and more of a cult of personality vibe. He feels toxic to me and I think now it goes a bit deeper than just NLP being a bit of a gimmick.

[@MK-ih6wp]

I wrote similar comment!

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

Richard Grannon was in the military (psy ops) for 20 years prior to this "Life Coach" role.

[@ashleygarden6906]

Chanel criticism of Richard starts at 18:48....Thank me with a like.

[@BarbaraMerryGeng]

Ashley Garden / I was wondering if he forgot where this was going .. heh heh ...

[@ashleygarden6906]

@@pippadaisychain7902 😂LOL. Good point.

[@ashleygarden6906]

What happened to the other comments?

[@AL-yq6kr]

Ashley Garden Pippa and other friends of Richard’s deleted some of their comments. I’m guessing that they realized that comments help bring larger exposure?

[@ashleygarden6906]

@@AL-yq6kr Ah ok. Thanks for sharing.

[@edwong4178]

There is possibly no better cover or source of narc supply than a communal narcissist posing as a narc abuse survivor turned narcissism guru.

[@grey.knight]

Spot on

[@maxi4680]

I think you might be right there. I thought a lot about him until his egregious dispute with Vaknin. This when I discovered what he had become, as you mentioned above.

[@avertingapathy3052]

Makes me wonder the same about our dear doctor G. Perhaps non communal but likely covert. He fudges his credentials a bit, and seems to stay away from actually practicing which would be heavy interpersonal strain instead monitizes opinion pieces as pretend forensic psychologist when in reality he has a degree in counseling from a Christian university. He may absolutely have the knowledge but essentially it's half a gossip page veiled in science, by someone with a degree in counseling, relatively obscured, pretending they are a non-biased forensic psychology expert by using the big 5 model. Grande is generally smarter since he doesn't let KZbin drama to bring down his business and remains relatively detached as our humble 100 0 percent objective observer.

[@angelasome9044]

They are all on the NPD/Aspd/ADHD sppectrum. I know this, and listen with owl ears. I take, and pass,because I have a normal brain.

[@danika9411]

I recently thought so as well😅

[@servicesaccount4836]

Grannon struck me personally as highly problematic immediately. Thank you for your view.

[@TheOlzee]

In what way?

[@servicesaccount4836]

@@TheOlzee His personal opinion, emotion, and experience is transparently framing and skewing the information he chooses presenting.

[@steggosaurus]

@@servicesaccount4836 I think it was Hunter S. Thompson who said "Remember that all advice can only be a product of the man who gives it. What is truth to one may be disaster to another."

[@lea-andromeda-sol2333]

@@steggosaurus Exactly, and there comes your own discernment ability, to take from that, what is useful to you and if nothing...let it go and act finaly as sovereign mature being....;-")

[@dontalkt2meboutheros]

Yeah, I found him creepy to be honest. Maintains that a person should always strive for perfection but never reach it. There's always something you should want to change about yourself. For me this view fly's in the face of achieving inner peace and contentment.

[@Irene-gq4jr]

In my experience messed up people attract other messed up people. I found Richard Grannon's videos helpful in many respects, although he is at times vitriolic and careless with his numerous anecdotes about previous partners who could be identified from what he is relating. As well as finding that unprofessional, I wouldn't seek life coaching from someone who repeatedly gets into relationships with the very people he claims to be an expert in teaching others to avoid any more than I would hire a personal trainer who is out of shape.

[@RantTherapist]

What. Obviously he got into those relationships before he educated himself on what NPD is. Why are you like this Irene? I feel offended for some reason. I'm offended you so callously chastise a good man who provides free valuable content because he happened to get taken advantage of by narcissistic predators who take advantage of good-natured kind people like him. Are you even? Why you even? What is even? I can't even.

[@Irene-gq4jr]

@@RantTherapist I respect your reply. I found Richard's content helpful in recognizing what happened to me in the past and explaining my feelings about it all, but not in avoiding it happening again. Nothing is clear-cut and before long everyone can be seen as a narc, because we ALL are selfish in some way. Dr Grande presents unemotional facts on how a person comes to be emotionally vulnerable. This works better for me as it's looking very likely that I have high-functioning autism. I base my decisions on facts, rules, analysis and logical outcomes. I've been burned several times while trying to fit in and be 'normal' without realizing I'm not equipped with the tools to do so; studying and recognizing this is why I am now 'even'. I do think Richard is a good man and his work has value. I have watched dozens of his videos and whilst making these he has at times indicated he is still single. I suspect it is a fear of falling into the trap again, his reputation depends on not doing that. If you were a police officer you wouldn't risk dating a known criminal, but it's far less likely you'd do so by accident because you have facts to go on. Richard certainly has charisma, and he's a hot looking guy, but as a scientist I guess I feel safer with information from other fact-based nerds like myself. And there I go overanalysing and overexplaining again, in true Aspie style. Peace be with you, it is not my intention to offend.

[@LuvBugBlaqkHart]

@@Irene-gq4jr Wow you handled that really well. That person above was really rude and obviously got triggered that you're questioning their guru. See this all the time online with other spiritual and self-help guru stans. I'm also on the spectrum so I can empathize with you and definitely agree with you. Thank you for commenting, I appreciate your input.

[@AL-yq6kr]

@@RantTherapist Wow, are you sober when you do this?

[@rishaa682]

what about a trainer who was out of shape and got himself into shape. that would be a more logical metaphor

[@AtticusStount]

A shortlist: he's Sam Vaknin's fanboy. He laughs at his own jokes, some of which involve things a counselor should never touch (or anyone else for that matter, listen for yourself and cringe). Self-adulating, arrogant demeanour. Does he know the complexities of Spartan culture and what this entails as a blueprint for a counseling style?

[@JENTHINKSO]

On a gut level, fwiw, I've always been struck with the sense in his numerous videos that Richard Gannon's charisma, confidence, ego, attention-seeking, and apparent lack of healthy, long-term intimate relationships (none of it alone, but COMBINED) matches up far better with narcissism than the codependent identity he claims. His self-proclaimed codependency, his narcissist's victim role is not convincing beyond what he may have experienced as a child, which, if true, appears to have made more of a narcissist of him than a codependent. Also, he never seems to show authentic vulnerability. To me, his claims of being hurt by narcissists lack emotional depth and authenticity. But, as with Vaknin, who better to expose narcissists than an insider? I think of them kind of like the whistleblowers of narcissism. It's worrisome how victims of narcissists looking for help are drawn to him like flies (and that's fine if they're gaining insight and help from him - assuming they're unlikely to become personally involved with him). It's worrisome in that they don't recognize that he's likely yet another charismatic narcissist. Go ahead, take what he can offer that is helpful to you, but do so with eyes wide open. It's important to learn to recognize them when we come across them.

[@bettyboo1927]

JENTHINKSO wow, you must have incredible credentials to diagnose someone without ever meeting them.

[@lea-andromeda-sol2333]

@@bettyboo1927 yeah, that is amazing, isn't it, how many smart as hell people you meet online...not so many helped in real life even one human being, but the theory is golden.....ILMFAO ;-"))

[@mmanda515]

@@bettyboo1927 While I disagree with the majority of what the person above was stating, have enjoyed & been helped by a lot of the information Richard has provided on his channel over the years...... Just wanted to say that terms like, "narcissist", "narcissism", "narcissistic"... are not a diagnosis, but merely a personality... trait. No different than someone being a jerk, stubborn, empathic, selfish, grandiose, giving or trustworthy.. they can be narcissistic. Had they said, "he clearly has, NPD" or "Narcissistic Personality Disorder"... you'd have a valid point. just saying/fyi. ~ Stay safe & be well.

[@terrytrees61]

@@bettyboo1927 grannon is scam, no credentials needed to see this..

[@WildSorrel]

I mean it makes sense if they have a pattern of being drawn to narcissists.

[@Queen-of-Swords]

There was a time when I found RG's videos entertaining. But they grew old fast. The funny voices etc, etc. I realised fairly soon that he had narcissistic traits. There is one person who thinks that RG is just SUPER and that is RG. My basic beef with people who offer any sort of life coaching, even people who claim to be nutritionists, is that many are just offering friendship at a fee. That is a sad reflection of our society, but true I think. Back to RG, I just saw a recent video he made, which he has filmed from the seat of a swanky convertible. He is talking about political correctness and how he dislikes it. Many people are jumping on this bandwagon, and it isn't really that they agree, its just FASHIONABLE. And when someone like RG does this it makes him look... unprincipled. I left a comment and RG's reply was ...umm... word salad. Not bothering again. When I saw he had shacked up with Vaknin, I felt that was the end of any interest I formerly had! And as someone else has said, please do a video on Vaknin. tbh the guy creeps me out.

[@terrytrees61]

I think I saw that, was it the one where he rants about how women must be "women" and men must be "men" in bed (again!?..🥺), while allegedly "answering" a viewer 's question about how she felt bad for wanting to be nurtured in her relationship.. totally flipped her original question and promoted the' oppressed white male' crap once more..!

[@emmashalliker6862]

@@terrytrees61 I pointed this out to Richard the other day. He's spouting right wing conspiracy crap. He didn't agree. Oh, well.

[@clap2myownbeat]

Also apparently working with David Icke (he said it in his most recent video about taking a ‘break’)

[@edwardo737]

@CharlieFoulkes You like political correctness?

[@edwardo737]

Emma Shalliker Are right wing positions necessarily conspiratorial? I’m sure that’s what you’ve been told. Maybe the conspiracy joke is on you. Spoiler: it actually is. But you’ll probably be the last to know.

[@Peecup]

The therapeutic value of seeing and talking to someone who has experienced whatever challenge you are going through, and overcome it, is unparalleled. There is nothing better. It saves lives. There is no need for someone to be doctor or professor etc, just a living example of overcoming that particular issue and living a happy productive life.

[@andreavanda5402]

Wise words indeed.

[@911dips5]

Get a friend....its free

[@runningfromchaos645]

I was always under the impression that Richard Grannon was explaining NLP in his videos and how abusers like narcissists and borderlines use it (patterns of speech and behavior) to keep you trapped in a cycle of hypnotic language.

[@dammitanothername]

there are some wackadoodles out there. I'm self taught NLP and I help people for free. That being said they usually have to pester me. It's a pain trying to rewire someone. You can't pay me enough to do this. I'd rather do it, do it right the first time so it's fixed forever, and never have to do any more work. I fail as a coach or therapist. They need repeat customers, right? My interest is solely in people functioning properly. So, generally it works out great. For the most part they forget they ever have a problem, never display the symptoms or suffer from the symptoms again, and carry on in life but in a more functional manner. So whatever you experience- it sounds awful. If you're ever worried about hypnosis- just study hypnosis. It's real easy to learn. It's like any other tool. It's benign or malign depending on the user.

[@NuLiForm]

Yes...that is Exactly how it is being used!..or i should say...Misused.

[@coyotefoxtrot2832]

@@dammitanothername you're a conman. NLP does not work. There is no evidence for it.

[@anneloving8405]

I think Glannen explains things in a way I get,When it comes to psychological issues I think that you either get on with your therapist or you don't.after all we are all different.

[@banjiddle]

I watched Grannon for the first time, and was impressed by his delivery like sitting in a college lecture. He was very convincing, and like a first time learner eager about narcissism, I had to listen. So, to the untrained, your information was an eye opener, and, of course, I will listen to you! I am a follower of Gestalt, Dr. Elinor Greenberg in Quora, and have her book. I know what is accurate and correct through her. The same with you now. I will be more skeptical to the false prophets as in preachers. What is all about is money! Thank you Dr Grande!

[@ImadeUlook]

I perceive RG as very passive aggressive, easily triggered and harbouring a seething temper. Something is off about him, he makes me uncomfortable and I unsubscribed.

[@teachersusanute199]

Same here. I used to listen to his videos but very soon I found that sth was wrong with the man. He made me feel uncomfortable and I unsubscribed. 🤔

[@jarmilaadam6707]

I think that impression comes from Grannon being stressed or mentally unwell. He tries to downplay that, but it seeps into his body language anyway. My issue with him is that his content is relatively one-sided. It evolves around the female overt narcissist and her male 'victim'. Although Grannon has a lot of knowledge about this relationship dynamic, I came to think that this relationship is his very own "trauma" that he processes verbally over and over again. That means his content is very self-centered, and that becomes tiresome over time.

[@howard1beale]

Me too. Total asshole. Needs a good kicking

[@howard1beale]

@@jarmilaadam6707 very self centred.... narcissistic lol. Cant stand him he's a creep in love with his own mythology

[@annacsillag7247]

@@howard1beale he was raised by a sociopath. Why would a "good kicking" reverse the issues he confronts? To want to kick someone is sadistic.

[@1madaboutguitar]

He is a fantastic communicator and synthesizes psychology jargon into a language people can access. His insights into Narcissimsn are first class and I have not seen another youtuber push awareness of C-PTSD as much as him. So, people can pick and pick all they want, and I don't agree with 100% of things he says/does either. However, his is a phenomenal force for good in this world. Long may his work continue...

[@southerncross5360]

As a subscriber to both you and Richard I see you both differently and I’m sharing a different perspective. Richard’s videos are relatable, the depth and sense of humor help people in their pain, laughing at the insanity can help at times, my opinion. Abuse leaves people isolated, emotionally broken, and full of guilt and shame. Many of us suffer from CPTSD, diagnosed via psychiatrist. After being raised by a parent with BPD then two decades married to an alcoholic, who also has bipolar disorder this lead to alcohol induced psychosis it’s a mess to unravel. Years of this day to day life hijacks ones reality, and relationships get very complicated and confusing. This alone leaves many feeling misunderstood. Richard is someone who can relate and and he made most simple enough. Yes some say he’s odd or he talks too much and many would say welcome to the world of trauma and anxiety. That’s been my normal and being alone there is hard. I’m not disagreeing, he doesn’t act like he’s the know all, see it as comparing apples and oranges personally. I don’t go there trying to understand or diagnose the people who tried to destroy my life, at the least my sense of reality. Don’t know if this is common but my psychiatrist sent an NLP to my home to understand what was happening and that’s when my children and I got out. I had no idea how bad it was because it was slow, now divorced several years and he’s facing 8-10 years in jail. Sad reality this is serious stuff when people talk about narcissism like it’s no big deal, that’s actually made it to where people think it’s normal and they’re hurt or even killed.

[@AngelaMay66]

Richard G is better than any licensed Psychologist that I ever paid hundreds of dollars for, and his schedule is my schedule. In dark days Grannon and a couple others saved my life.

[@alcovefib]

I felt obliged to mention that the phrase "The map is not the territory" was coined by a rather highly influential Polish engineer and semanticist Alfred Korzybski. It can be found in his book Science and sanity (1933). This is where cognitive-behavioural psychologists took it (the concept) from. Albert Ellis (REBT founder) mentions it and Carl Rogers (humanistic psychologist) mentions it in their works. NLP founders borrowed the idea and use it as their own not giving credit to the originator. Or are they? I don't know if they admitted it anywhere. I'd also mention NLP founders borrowed from Milton Erickson’s principles. They just borrowed and integrated someone else's ideas and marketed it as a package of something new.

[@wordivore]

Interesting. Thanks for the book mention. I found it on Amazon. Of course it's one of those (somewhat) expensive texts.

[@alcovefib]

@@wordivore @Wordivore Science and sanity isn't an easy read and it's massive. I think it's rather for scholars or passionate students of general semantics. I remember how I've once forked out on P. K. Dick's Exegesis with an intension to read it and ended up reading maybe 20 pages. It's worth to read or watch something about Korzybski's concepts, perhaps not all of them stood a test of time. It's certainly worth to stop for a moment and reflect on: how we perceive reality, how we abstract, symbolize, how we metaphorise almost all the time, how we filter reality through our fallible senses and different levels of sensitivity, how we distort it and also how we take other's opinions and sort if incorporate them into our own concepts with some distortions. Also how we put labels on things and people, as if they were those abstractions and not persons in a constant process. I guess it's easier to think in categories like: he's such and such and she's this or the other, sky is blue and I am what I am...I'm glad I've scratched the Korzybski's thought a little as he pops up in the works of others every so often, so at least I know where they got some ideas from. We are all but dwarves standing on the arms of giants or how that B. de Chartreaux line went lol.

[@bobwes57]

@@alcovefib shoulders of giants????

[@alcovefib]

@@bobwes57 Of course shoulders. Kind of easier to balance😂

[@mkayokay3192]

Before Korzybski there was someone else, of course.

[@Suedetussy]

I’ve just discovered Richard Grannon recently and watched a lot of his videos, and i liked them very much, because i could pick up some extremely good thoughts. Also, they’re easy to watch, because he is a funny, heart on sleeve, down to earth. But after a while, it starts getting tiresome. He talks way too much, and while the actual content is very thin, it’s more about him: it‘s less about information, but more about performance. I even asked myself, „What if you’re a narcissist?“ I know, this is nothing of what you said in this video, Dr Grande, but somehow i felt like sharing my personal impressions on Richard Grannon.

[@temptime5726]

His videos are definitely unnecessarily long. I've only watched 2-3 of them but in one of them his criticism of an ex he claims is a narcissist is that she talks too much (he does too) and that she comes from a wealthy family and therefore her troubles are discounted. Now I think one could have a discussion about relative suffering dependent on social economics, but the comment seemed completely dismissive and not professional.

[@m0L3ify]

He admits in some of his videos that he's a bit of a narcissist. I think he may be underplaying it a bit.

[@stadtaffelandei6380]

m0L3ify Show me „a bit“ narcissist. 😂 The man is dangerous. They all feed you some good stuff to lure you in. He’s a programmer.

[@wordivore]

@@stadtaffelandei6380 Can you elaborate on this more? I've seen your other comments referring to MK ultra as well. You've got me super curious as to, in what way he is programming.

[@weirdamazonssandalsummer2148]

@@stadtaffelandei6380 He's done a number of videos about these topics himself (Grannon) and always gives off the vibe he's talking as an insider !..

[@lilyjane1011]

What worried me lately about G is his "alpha" take on women and the bullshit talk that goes with it. I found it truly disappointing. I expected better than that from him. He lost credibility from that point... it sounds, well, "sick".

[@ClaudeInsecte]

Dr Grande...I can honestly say you are one of the (few) people 'on' this planet who I feel I can trust. Thank you. I repeatedly sensed something 'wrong' about Richard Grannon watching his videos. He seems angry to me.... I think that's what it is and that scares me. And that's why I no longer watch his videos.

[@Nexus-ub4hs]

Yep, ditto all of what you’ve said

[@emilycastleman2647]

Claude Insecte Doctor? 🤣

[@carmel-wayfinder5401]

It does not surprised me of your narcissism views on others. Sociopath like yourself are very good experts. But it sure doesn't take a expert to see the deadness in your eyes. Please forgive me if you are Mk controlled.

[@omarra6781]

@velveteyes79 Yeah, I've watched many, many of his videos over the last few years and I don't see any glaring red flags. I see a guy who's had issues like the rest of us, which in my perception, he's completely owned. I think he's been perfectly clear about who he was, who he is right now, the bad he's done, the bad things that have happened to him. I never felt pressured to buy anything from him, though I did buy his Emotional Literacy course. I don't get bombarded with emails like someone in the comments said. He tells people they don't have to do super chats and pay him because he has an income. I understand if people don't vibe with him, but I don't get all the comments about creep factor, etc.

[@omarra6781]

@velveteyes79 It's weird reading the comments. Like most things these days, politics especially, the views expressed here seem SO divided. Some love RG, some hate him. What ever happened to nuance? What ever happened to saying about someone they're neither 100% bad nor 100% good. They're human, with flaws, with different ideas. Whatever happened to gleaning the information you can use and ditching the rest? Are people SO messed up now they have to categorize everything and everyone as Good and Evil and never see anything in between? If that's the case, people are more dysfunctional (as a whole) than RG OR Dr. Grande can ever hope to help and humanity is doomed.

[@Opelteanit]

I signed up for an intro coaching session with Richard back in Feb 2015, and paid about $75 to be put on a waiting list. He asked when was good to do coaching and said he would get back to me and he never did! So I was out $75 and since it was past 6 months, I couldn't put in a claim with Paypal. His content might be okay but he as a person is very sketchy.

[@rs5570]

I'm sorry to hear this. Please try again. I think he would refund you & recently heard him discuss refunds. I believe he is honest.

[@m0L3ify]

Oh my god...did you see when he started his Inner Critic course? That's 100% when he lost me. He said he was giving people one lesson for free. The link took you to one of those websites designed like a time-share seminar where you have to watch a video that has no timer and no pause button, so you have no idea how long it's going to be and you can't pause it and come back to it. You're basically trapped either watching the whole thing at once or not at all. So he starts kind of going through the introductory ideas around the inner critic but doesn't actually teach anything useful. Then at the end, the sales pitch for his new course begins. And there's no prices listed anywhere, not on the site, not on his KZbin channel, nowhere. You have to sit through the sales pitch to find out how much it is. And at the end you're redirected to a buy page where you finally find out it's half-off the regular price of $1000 -- for a limited time. So for the "low-low price" of $500 you can take his course. 'But act fast!' And he followed up that pitch with a KZbin video a few days later telling his viewers that if they were hesitant to pay that much money, it was their inner critic telling them they weren't good enough, and they should prove it wrong by buying his course! He gaslit his own audience. I shit you not! And the kicker was that everything he was teaching can be found in a $15 book on Amazon. I knew EXACTLY which book he got it all out of. "CPTSD: From Surviving to Thriving" by Pete Walker. And yet people were falling all over themselves saying "shut up and take my money." I swear to god, it was like a tax on people who hadn't been paying attention to the rest of his channel for umpteen years. I thought he had some interesting things to say in the past, but once he started trying to con his audience, I was so done. I can't stand him now. He's a total con and a huckster.

[@tentaclecroissant2252]

Send an email through the website, you cant be refunded as you rightly say, but the money can be gifted to you.

[@maryfisher6569]

@@m0L3ify it is really all about the money. Free course right....I checked into it months ago. As my papa would say nothing is ever free. I have found with his audien e growth so goes his ego and opinions with no foundation. He critizes many higher educated people in his field as though he is the guru. He lost me a few months ago. So he can bask in his own glory and cash, but NOT mine. I will stay with Dr Grande, calm factual, see both sides and then evaluates.

[@m0L3ify]

@@maryfisher6569 💯

[@Codeman2017]

On the subject of Grannon specifically, I find his videos to be exhausting. He seems angry and unstable - that is not the kind of person I look to for advice. Also, he seems quite paranoid about narcissism/narcissists. He frequently gives examples of narcissistic behaviors with the suggestion that a person who engages in those behaviors necessarily has NPD. I have had the frustrating experience of associations with several narcissists - two work colleagues who were textbook narcissists (comically so - both charming and seemingly generous, kind, etc on the surface, but actually had no empathy whatsoever, were manipulative, viewed others as tools and toys, were maniacally obsessed with what they could get out of other people), and a boss who might not have qualified for NPD but was at least very close. Grannon is correct to warn viewers about people like that. However, to suggest that one narcissistic behavior, or one isolated incident of narcissism, indicates that a person has NPD is absurd, paranoid, and destructive. I’ve observed periodic narcissistic behaviors or relatively insignificant narcissistic traits in many friends, colleagues, and family - but I would have to be out of my right mind to equate them with the aforementioned destructive individuals. Grannon’s take is full of anger, paranoia, and hatefulness - it borders on the delusional when he starts going on about all the narcissists he’s been associated with, warning his viewers of the tell tale signs.

[@agee7777]

@@DrBe-zn5fv such a shallow prejudice comment.

[@agee7777]

@@DrBe-zn5fv southernfairy

[@saiikik2727]

If your colleagues have "no empathy whatsoever" they would not be "textbook narcissists." Narcissists have impaired empathy. Antisocial have none.

[@therespectedlex9794]

@@DrBe-zn5fv Maybe, but as a fellow northerner (from the far north, other side of the Mersey to Richie) we have our cowardly worms too. One of the charms of Richard is that he's bright, a martial arts expert, and seems physically brave, as a nightclub bouncer. I think he appeals to men like me who wish they were heroes.

[@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093]

If Grannon keeps repeatedly becoming associated with terrible people he ought to look towards himself - he is the common denominator in that situation. What is he doing to attract terrible people to himself?

[@ANANDALEEMA]

Thank you for this assessment of Richard Grannon's channel. I just recently came across him and watched a number of his videos. At first, it was highly interesting as I am looking for qualified info on overcoming the effects of a long-term relationship with a psychopathic narcissist. But after a few videos, I had the feeling something is not right - note "the feeling". As I have to follow these intuitions I lost interest and stopped watching in the middle of a video. Then I came across this assessment of Tod Grande! Interesting to me was that I had not connected Grannon's work with NLP, which I have known about since it emerged into the therapeutic world and do not like at all (lots of manipulation in it) and then also interesting that my feeling of "something not right" was qualified by Grande's comments. Having said this, I am sure his work has helped many. I however will not be looking into it further.

[@emilycastleman2647]

Very well said.

[@hope5350]

This was eye opening. I've been following Richie Grannon for years while also seeing a therapist that is a LMSW. I have communicated with Richard Grannon a couple of times. He definitely had an outside of the box critique of my own dysfunctional family that contributed to success in therapy after I changed therapists. I switched therapists because I agreed with Richard that my therapist of 12 years was not particularly helpful when it came to discussing my father's death and my feelings of indirect responsibility of his death. My dad had NPD, and I couldn't help him. Now, Richard didn't specifically tell me to switch therapists. He mentioned that my LMSW wasn't particularly helpful any longer when it came to certain familial issues and the prevalent narcissism that exists there. I have dealt with legitimate narcissistic abuse my entire life. His channel does have positive attributes as you mentioned. I'm glad, however, that I did not buy his courses as they're not accredited. Thank you for the video, Dr. Grande. I appreciate the feedback on his channel. You are very careful yourself and absolutely articulate. I am a huge fan.

[@DrGrande]

Thank you so much for your kind words!

[@hope5350]

@@Jenatorre I agree, but he definitely left it up to me. He didn't tell me to see someone else. He said it's my therapist's job to have an adequate response other than stating "I don't know." Which was an occurrence that left me feeling as if I was seeing someone inadequate. I needed help and wasn't receiving it. I was (and still am) grieving a tremendous loss.

[@hope5350]

@@DrGrande You're very welcome!

[@BunnyUK]

I used to follow Richard Grannon's channel, and on a positive note, I've watched many of his videos in the past & they helped me to realise I had been (and was) in a relationship with a covert narcissist and/or borderline personality-disordered individual. However, last year he blew up my email address with several emails a day, claiming that his latest course was essential to overcoming my complex ptsd. A course that was extremely expensive. I read a lot of comments left on his channel, at that time, from people who felt traumatised by the pushy, hard-sell tactics, and I also felt there was a discrepancy between his video persona, and what I was seeing in my email inbox. So I stopped following him. I also don't like how he's aligned himself with Sam Vaknin, but that's a whole other issue. I do feel Richard's videos, such as identifying whether the person you are dating is a covert (or introverted) narcissist, are of merit. But I would not spend large sums of money on courses that claim such things as curing ptsd.

[@AL-yq6kr]

June Dickerson Based on your numerous insulting comments, you’re not a good example being “blessed with healing”.

[@BillyG869]

I too have greatly benefited from Richard Grannon’s videos and content. Grannon on many occasions brought many eye opening revelations into my own early development and growth as an Adult. One needs to listen and be of a critical thinking nature to sort through all the numerous claims and peoples intent and integrity. Richard Grannon shows up authentic, sincere, and actually opens up his own life lessons. Richard Grannon is not hiding behind and Titles or Certifications, or caught up in himself and his titles. Richard Grannon is truly someone sincere and helping people with integrity, and delivering good practical information, processes and results. Anyone searching through KZbin and other web delivered media is charged with taking care of their own choices and results. Again, results and Integrity are two operation words to keep in mind here.

[@justasimplesomeone]

Yes, Richard Grannon has been useful - but I have noticed that he sometimes puts out silly juvenile videos which show him to be rather egotistical. They don’t help his image and seem unnecessary. It seems to me that he can not resist publicising everything he thinks. Not sure that helps him.

[@vmm5163]

@Black Weirdo Richard Grannon comes from NW England, as do I, and when I watch him I want to say he needs to calm down and stop his personality overriding the valuable info he obviously has. I think the NW are still stuck in "serious mode" as regards a lot of things. Myself included. We are still a bit insular and anal compared to the rest of Britain. Whereas he would get away with some of his hyper personality down south in the London area. I do think sometimes that he displays hyperactivity disorder, I'm not sure about the attention deficit part or he wouldn't be able to put his mind to his work. I also think that (what I see as) his hyperactivity actually attracted his dysfunctional ex girlfriend in the first place. Academically he's very organized, emotionally and I'm not so sure. He seems a little immature sometimes. At least I'm not afraid of him as I would be of Vaknin !

[@HandSolitude]

I'm sensing jealousy and superiority complex because of your more academic qualifications. Grannon does have a degree in psychology, and he's definitely a master of the school of hard knocks. He's definitely lived life, which is what gives him an advantage over many more academic focussed therapists. He's by far most useful for his knowledge around narcissism. His work with Sam Vaknin is extremely useful. "Psychopath" has been interchanged with ASPD in the DSM due to the stigma issues.

[@baroquefiddle4790]

I can’t see how this is a jealously analysis. I'm also a Psychotherapist and it is absolutely essential to have the right amount of training, theory & practice, where I live that equals a BA degree & a master's. It's super important as we work with people's vulnerabilities and trauma's and complex issues. There are a whole lot more of the psychodynamics in the client/therapist relationship. The reason for all this is to protect the client at all cost's!

[@emilycastleman2647]

He is an internet influencer, he has no professional credentials as a therapist. He intentionally implies he is legit, but it’s all fake just to gain him Narcissistic supply. If you don’t believe it, look through the comments here and tell me that isn’t rocket fuel for his kind. I first found him when seeking peace, I listened to maybe 100 of his videos, which made the listening easy because he’s a velvet voiced con man. It never occurred to me he was a poser but my husband could see through him and said he never really tells you anything. As I poured myself into getting healed I became more savy than the poser. He sometimes comes out with absurd notions and assumes he is right because his world is limited apparently. He was claiming EMDR was a joke and only wackos claim it has power. (Ok those were not his words but you get it). It’s shown to be effective for developmental trauma, PTSD, …so the US government finds convincingly enough to have veterans treated with it. Once you see the light you’ll not be afraid to see Wizard. A narcissistic con man posing as a compassionate therapist is dangerous.

[@emilycastleman2647]

I will bet you $1000 Grannon is diagnosed Narcissistic Personality Disorder with Psychopathic sadistic tendencies. Yes he has a lovely way of speaking but I stand by my guess.

[@jimmydavis7587]

@@emilycastleman2647 As a qualified therapist myself I can tell you everything he says is on point. There's this weird idea that there's only one way to read a book and gather knowledge. There isn't. I could care less about him being a therapist, there's room for more than 1 idea in this world

[@jimmydavis7587]

@Jamie Walkerdine You don't get to define what objectively does and does not fly here. If you don't agree or believe me, awesome. But you don't speak for everyone.

[@elizdonovan5650]

I like that you always do the pros and cons on a particular topic. Also that you state the name and link the articles you refer to in your talks. It’s good to get (in so far as is possible) unbiased information and that you state when something is opinion. Thank you and best wishes. 🌲🌝☘️

[@gillymac9363]

RG's a raging narc himself, & a charlatan. His channel was originally called "My CNXG" (Crazy narcissist ex girlfriend.) It was a vlog about his wounded ego he has cleverly monopolised. He then said she was borderline, completely at the other end of the spectrum which is just one of the many reasons the guy is dangerously clueless about personality disorders. He's charging 5k per course to the most emotionally vulnerable people. Exploitative much?!

[@catherinewholey3630]

My Crazy narcissist Ex Girlfriend is run by an American called David

[@gauloise6442]

Ever since Grannon has teamed with Vaknin my respect for him has gone way down. He does exactly the opposite of what he teaches in regards to dealing with people with NPD. He let Vaknin into his life so quickly, with no boundaries, to the point they have become a team in less than 6 months and 80% of his videos and engagements feature Sam. He seems like he is the target of Sam the Narcissist to gain supply and money. Now he is giving a seminar for 80 GBP on "how to manipulate the narcissist" with Sam, which is the exact opposite of what any true psychotherapist will tell you, that can actually be dangerous if the abuser is violent.

[@gauloise6442]

that was my point, he is an internet guru that is giving advice against what every psychotherapist, and even what other youtube narc channels, will tell you. Ploys should not be used when it comes to mental health, and just because suffering people want something, that may not be the right thing to give them if they actual want to heal. Vengeance and manipulation your abuser does not extricate you from the drama but inflames it.

[@gauloise6442]

Why is speculation needed? The name of a seminar is what the seminar is about, and RIchard did a video on it with a link to the event describing exactly what the seminar is on. If I spend 80GBP on a seminar titled How to Build a Birdhouse and they teach me how to build a doghouse, that would be fraud. I am not going to gaslight myself.

[@chiquititans]

That’s exactly why I stopped respecting and following Grannon - the influence of Vaknin who should be arrested and sentenced for a crime nonetheless. However, I don’t regret buying his expensive course because it really did help me immensely.

[@AlanMocellim]

Its work. I have a diagnosed narcissist in my department at university and we have a research project together. If you can set boundaries and limit contact as work its ok.

[@gauloise6442]

@M M I googled Grannon. He used to do psychology for streetfighting, and got discredited and kicked out of the community. He had a youtube channel for it that got taken down and on his streetfighting blog he blamed ALEX JONES for pressuring KZbin to delete his channel. It was pure crazy, and I realized that you have to be really careful about charismatic youtube "psychology" channels.

[@Su_aSponte]

Interesting, I’ve been following him for about 5 years. He’s spoken about his NLP training. He’s very critical of it. His knowledge and teaching ability have been helpful, honest, thoughtful, edifying, informative, human and often quite entertaining and funny. He says more in a five minute video that has a practical application for people who are truly trying to heal than most other, so-called psychology channels. I enjoy your videos too but feel like they are much more for entertainment than therapy. Seems like he takes his role very seriously and I’ve never heard him negatively review another psychologist for views...hmmm Mainstream psychology has a limited understanding of the ever-changing landscape of human mental brokenness. We need more fearless pioneers that can do the experiments on themselves, go out and help others heal and then those healed people can go out and truly help their communities. What traditional psychology has done so far is just not good enough yet. Mental illness begets mental illness and it seems to be doing that an alarming rate. Let’s do some better work, folks! That’s my goal, anyway 🦋

[@crinishorela]

Well said. I found Grannon to be very human in his approach and relatable. He walked the road he was talking about. He has his failings, but after watching his videos for years, I do believe he means well and now he has moved on from NPD talk to other realms. He was easier to understand than others. And he still tries to give applied practical techniques for healing. I personally appreciate the man. He helped me. I tried other 4-5 channels a few years back (including this one). He had the most human and humourous approach. I perceived him as a friend, not a scholar, nor a therapist. And he doesn't claim to be any of those two. Judging a man's channel by 10 random videos when he has done hundreds, is questionable work from your part. As a person that watched Grannon for years, understood, applied and felt better without spending a penny, what you did here is shallow work.

[@colinogorman8279]

Definitely agree about mainstream psychology it's been absolutely useless but it's how its utilised too

[@emilycastleman2647]

I find that comment entertaining considering Grannon has no authentic psychology credentials, in fact, I bet you’re behind this one too Richard.

[@Trowblood]

@@emilycastleman2647 Every comment you make screams of your own narcissism Emily. Textbooks have their place and credentials are just a nod to those who went to school to learn to recite them but they lack any individual depth or nuance; just as you lack! Talking textbook people are stagnant and can do more harm than good, if they lack the understanding of the individual and the wisdom of their situation... like you!

[@bobwes57]

@@crinishorela Agreed what he ..Dr Grande ..did here was indeed Shallow Work...

[@brianadlich4406]

How many of the narcissistic abuse life coaches do you reckon are actually borderlines or narcissists themselves?

[@vernonpurdue928]

I think narcissism is virtually a prerequisite for qualifying as a “life coach”.

[@LyricsCrashx3]

He is definitely a narc. (Richard Grannon) Listen to him closely. He's an asshole.

[@Starfishxoxo]

@Max2020 seriously?? omg

[@michellebaker6877]

I haven't watched him much, but he did say he is to a degree. He said narcissists like to be with with other narcissists, and he looked at his friend group one day and noticed he was surrounded by NPD-- so he took a good, hard look at himself.

[@louisafitzell865]

The victim often becomes like their abuser. Which is obvious and something Richard admits himself.

[@locutusdborg126]

I have significant experience with NLP, When he says immediate results he is talking in code about using hypnotic suggestions.

[@bonnielucas6769]

He has said as much in his videos.

[@9fiveb180]

I love how you would get that little itch to smile (as you were explaining and describing his channel) whenever you would change where you were looking when you said different things. It's always good to see your ornery streak, and sense of humor Doc. Gets me every time. lol

[@Nexus-ub4hs]

I think I’m the odd one out, I got bad vibes from RG and only watched a couple before I found much better folk to help me recover, mainly those that had personal experience. From work too, I’m a bit adverse to both NLP and life coaches. My psychopathic Ex and he was, 36/40 on Hares checklist was a master practitioner of NLP. You seem a really solid guy I would trust

[@grace2479]

people with psychopathic and narcissistic traits are into NLP

[@finallyfinally9317]

@@peterorsmond1489 it can't hurt to try if it works for some people can it ?

[@emmanewton1482]

I followed him for several years , I now believe what he recently came out admired to being a “ narcissist psychopath, and that he’s high in sadism” I ll leave the link to the video where he said this

[@marti9128]

Please do!

[@marisam9803]

Provide a link plz

[@rishaa682]

weird that they wouldnt leave the link

[@catspajamas2961]

I recall several years ago watching a video, I think on RG's channel, with SV, where RG was joking around, but not, suggesting that he - RG - was also a narcissist. I didn't continue watching his channel and have no idea at this point which video it was.

[@manonty2417]

@@catspajamas2961 I've seen him many times infer or mention using nlp techniques that he is a narc.. lol as he says "a narcissist will always tell you who he is at some point" !! cringe..

[@DarthShadie]

I've been listening to Richard Grannon's videos for many years now and recently purchased some of his Life Coach courses for healing. So far they have been very helpful.

[@valhalliwell]

I find your comment interesting. Why would you disparage someone else's reality? Especially in such a patronizing way.

[@DarthShadie]

@@valhalliwell Is there a comment I am not seeing? I feel a bit lost by the replies to my comment about trying out healing courses. They don't all include NLP. I for one prefer the ones without the NLP. The practical exercises and affirmations are what help me the most.

[@adimeter]

Can you name 2 or 3 of Richard's courses. I have already been the "Leaving the Matrix".

[@DarthShadie]

@@adimeter The First Aid Kit course was very helpful for me. Build Better Boundaries and Emotional Literacy as well. I've been doing courses from the big pack I got a while back. So far those I mentioned were the most beneficial to me.

[@adimeter]

@@DarthShadie Those sound rich. I believe I have built some good boundaries, but don't want to get cocky. Emotional Literacy is something I will check out. Thank you so much.

[@graceandfaith869]

Richard is a very honest and intelligent person He is an open book he does say things as they are no sugar coating He was a very helpful person in my way to find me again I truly appreciate him 💞👵

[@karo1564]

I was wondering why he teamed up with Pierre XO. I ask him: How did you get to know each other? He answered with a nonsense comment... like: you see him as well Because their age is quite apart, their locations, their channels are not similiar. I was just curious how they met.

[@fitprotunes]

Karen I thought it was odd that he teamed up with Pierre XO. Grannon has spoken at length about the toxicity of social media and how it contributes to a more narcissistic society. Pierre XO is constantly posting on social media, his Instagram consists of hundreds of selfies. Very incongruent

[@karo1564]

@@fitprotunes yes, absoltuly- it's incongruent- I find them very odd together as well.. and I don't enjoy their clips together at all. Pierre is an american instagram pop culture child with a lot of make-up and a style like Tokio Hotel 20 years ago. His verbal input is not special at all. Don't know why they teamed up... strange! Maybe he has a crush on him?

[@laevan2053]

While I've seen a few of his vids. from a while back, I don't know how long he's been endorsing ayuhuasca. He has done it a LOT in his collabs. with Pierre XO. XO has worked very hard to try to get young, insecure, marginalized folks into relating to him, and now he, who endorses psychodelic drugs, has teamed up with Grannon, who is endorsing ayuhuasca. I don't see this as a good thing for many in their audience. Personal opinion, of course. I know that those who coordinate these trips to other countries to participate in this can make a LOT of $, but this isn't safe for many, and rip offs abound. One of my latest head scratchers.

[@anima6035]

@@laevan2053 They both said they no longer recommend ayuhuasca to people as they saw the dark side of that "scene"

[@laevan2053]

@@anima6035 When was this? When Gannon was visiting XO in Prague, he was speaking of how he could have no sexual release or alcohol due to his prepping for his next ayuhuasca journey. If they have seen how messed up that whole "scene" is, good! I will gladly take back my aspersions if this is the case. TY & TC

[@B3N7221]

I really appreciate the technical way of speaking you bring and all of the information you have made available to the public; It's also nice to see your humor and personality still shine through too 😊

[@wonder7798]

Humorous yes! Lol

[@donnawoodford6641]

At the end of one of R. Gannon's podcasts, he talked about people sending him money he doesn't need, then said something about "stupid Guatemalan children', and that's when I thought something was truly off, and maybe coming from an unhealed part of him.

[@scottmatznick3140]

How do you know when someone does, or doesn't, need money?

[@ann2456]

He despises his audience

[@LuvBugBlaqkHart]

The information I've gotten from Richard Grannon was extremely helpful but I've always been wary of him. I've seen and felt a lot of red flags and especially with him now starting to talk about spirituality and other shit like that makes me even more wary. I started following his stuff after I got out of a new age spiritual cult. He has admitted to being on the borderline spectrum as well which tbh I think that's the fishiness I was smelling. He just always felt a little fake and off to me. I liked him for a while and even still think a lot of his content is helpful but you really have to be careful with him and also his buddy Sam Vaknin. I always was uncomfortable that he had such a buddy buddy relationship with a known narcissistic sociopath. It's just not smart and also doesn't make him look good... the company you keep is a reflection of yourself. Idk it just all feels soooooo off to me and my gut has proved herself to me more than a hundred times that she's usually right. So I'm gonna go with my gut. Too many times I ignored it and it got me into a lot of shitty situations and experiences.

[@triciamedora9274]

Richard does have a BSc in Psychology. He has study many philosophies as well. It is obvious that he has devoted his life to studying psychology, philosophy, and sociology.

[@onlyonce1707]

Grannon is a gifted unique guy and uses eclectic approaches - not just NLP. One of the best coaches on KZbin.

[@LanaM-ub1jl]

I am completely addicted to this channel. I heard it first in a course I was taking. This is the most interesting presentation of this content that I have found on you tube. Super smart man!

[@Anna_Key]

It seems to me that anyone whose income depends on keeping patients coming back regularly and paying by the hour is unlikely to "believe" in NLP.

[@sybersandy]

Most of Grannons long videos could be reduced to 10min of straight voicing of information.The rest of time is mood induction and mind prepping. If you are a professional it is blatant that he is a narcissist himself, most probably he s even aware of that, more so should be Prof. Vaknin. After all it is 'one hand that washes the other between these two.Brilliant marketing strategy for both.

[@carebear7047]

Him and Dr grande are both narcissists

[@TheShadowpatterns]

Dr. Grande, I discovered Richard while researching toxic shame in my effort to heal from child trauma. I have listened/watched hundreds of hours of Grannon, and his ideas (and the way he presents them) , when I practice them work. I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am for Mr. Grannon. He has done a 'hard sell' marketing scheme that disappointed me, but I can't throw the baby out with the bath water. I don't agree with everything he spouts off, but I know that some of his ideas (and his presentation) significantly improved aspects of my life when I applied them. Just my two cents. Keep up the awesome work, Dr Grande!!

[@gregoryambres1897]

Science: "Not effective." People: "Life-changing."

[@tooleyzrc1973]

Exactly. This guy seems to think only a degree can save you. Ha

[@paulajohnson139]

I'm a retired mental health professional. Finding Dr. Grande a couple of days ago has been great! I've watched some of his videos on criminals/their criminal cases and now have had the best lecture ever on NLP.

[@9fiveb180]

The sad truth of the matter is, that no matter where or when a person received their education, it's not a guarantee that they are going to apply that education in a manner to best improve your situation. It's difficult to know which behavioral modification technique to implement, and not run the risk of causing more problems for that client. It's more dependent upon that clinician's moral compass, and their ability to empathize with the client in a way that shows the client that they are being heard, and this person truly wants to help them. A therapist could recall everything they've ever learned verbatim. But if they are unable to empathize with others, or their morals and/or ethics are questionable, they have the ability to cause serious harm to a great many of their clients. I've recently had to learn this the hard way. There are so many variables that come into making a good clinician/client relationship to bring about positive results that it boggles the mind. But when you feel that your therapist wants to help resolve your particular issue, and you see your life outside their office improving......... It doesn't matter what kind of credentials they have, as long as they have the ability to help you in a positive way.

[@strukled8590]

Definitely. It's very well known even among the therapists....it takes something more, a person becomes "more than an appointment"...you remember all the facts, details immediately, you are much more involved and ready to go extra mile to help.

[@treeseer1573]

I’ve heard other you tubers in the field of personality disorders accuse Richard Granon of being a narcissist himself. But I don’t know if that is true

[@jessicahamilton3314]

It's true.

[@ivy3839]

Even if he is, he gives out good knowledge . Best to learn about Narcissism from Narcisists. They will explain it better than a person who just studied it .

[@laraparks7018]

I've been in therapy since I was 27; I'm 54 now..and it wasn't until I studied NPD that I began to understand what a strange dynamic that I was put into by narcissists I thank God for people like Richard Gannon and Sam Vaknin everyday They saved my life

[@pickle9753]

Richard is in my prayers every day as well. He saved my life and my family land and home from being exploited away from me by the narcissist that was abusing me.

[@laraparks7018]

@@pickle9753 God 🙏 bless

[@pickle9753]

@@laraparks7018thank you. God bless you as well. 🙏🏻❤️🦋

[@monietz]

Any "modality" (NLP) that has been taught by manipulative marketers on how to sell or get laid should be reconsidered by any therapist who may use it.

[@stableansey3270]

sounds right. well put.

[@orchidisle1]

If You mean that if any modality or advice given by a life -coach, or therapist could be used for bad as opposed to good means it shouldn’t be used by any credible therapist- then that is a flawed statement. Of course there are many manipulators using information or techniques to further any chosen agenda. That is why critical thinking or discernment is a great thing to develop.

[@themadmattster9647]

Ross Jeffries is fucking hilarious though, you gotta admit. I actually like his course on Chaos Magick, though I got it for free lol

[@GGiblet]

The whole life coaching thingie... I worry that vulnerable people will be taken advantage of.

[@extremelyhappysimmer]

as a german i want to thank you for pronouncing Gestalt correctly.

[@judyscheiber3661]

I am an American life coach and I agree with this video and Dr. Grande. Life coaches cannot help anyone with mental health problems. We can help you look forward and work toward accomplishing goals that will get you to a happy life. Richard Grannon is in over his head and if here in the USA, he's be stopped by laws. He is getting more and more reckless in imagining he's got enough of a following that it doesn't matter. I refer all of my clients that I believe need therapy to a licensed mental health professional.

[@user-dm1cy5lq3r]

Been a while since this vid was posted (tnx dr. Grande) I wonder how many people have since changed their (positive) opinion on RG.... Personally I think he's shady af, and I'm not even afraid to use more (helpful) clinical terms to describe him ;)

[@jameswhite7997]

@@user-dm1cy5lq3r I'm on the fence about RG but generally lean towards the belief that NLP is pseudoscience at best and that he is a self-appointed expert with no accreditation. Are you referring to anything specific about RG that has happened/come out about him? Just interested

[@helpyourcattodrive]

So glad you broke this down. I thought nlp was great from always hearing about around it town and everywhere. What a relief it is to get your viewpoint on so many issues, including nlp.

[@movieman6588]

I have been following Richard Grannon's channel for awhile and I have found that the information he presents seems to have evolved significantly. I used to struggle with his earlier videos because he seemed so "angry" when he was presenting his topics. Then later I found that I struggled because everything seemed to be being presented from a victim mentality. Ie. the "other" is the problem and we are victims of the "other." Even though this is appealing, it simply is not true. His later videos however (2020), are very different. I have learned a lot from his in-depth reflections on himself and his own experiences, plus work with his clients. He points out truths that are amazingly accurate. I still don't agree with everything he says but has an amazing way of explaining concepts that will "free" you if you open your mind to consider what he is saying. Your video is great in that in reminds people to think critically when watching anyone's youtube channel. Don't take anything in without questioning it.

[@captaron]

True, he certainly speaks of the tongue a bit which certainly runs the risk of giving out erroneous statements but I got a lot out of him.

[@jamesshaw6363]

I'd say that one sign of a narcissist is setting yourself up as some kind of guru or expert on psychology without any meaningful credentials

[@mainlyfine]

Oh yeah! Richie Grannon resembles an online cult leader with a bevy of adoring followers, mostly women, who hang on every word he says.

[@TheoCynical]

Errr, maybe? To me, that's if you're using that to dismiss arguments that are rational but, they do have knowledge and rank over you so mentioning credentials towards a person who is talking about something potentially misinformed might be helpful in reinforcing your plight wrapped in knowledge.

[@LuvBugBlaqkHart]

Yeah with the newer videos he's making and the new channel he said he's planning on making soon just screams cult guru to me... I have had a very traumatic and intense experience with a new age spiritual self-help guru cult leader and all the red flags are starting to become a little more obvious with Richard. I don't think he's as bad as the cult leader I was involved with but I do think there is a darkness to him that has always made me feel off about him.

[@valriegerlitzki5909]

SOOOOO TRUE !!!! ALWAYS verify credentials. Far far too many abusers hide behind a smoke screen of accusations and some of these actually work in medical offices but have no actual medical certification or credentials.

[@stadtaffelandei6380]

echo-echo Grannon is a mind control programmer working for the NWO.

[@powpunkonwhiskey6377]

I've found his content as helpful as some other KZbinrs in the subject of NPD but I can't say I like him as a person. I sense that he is rather aggressive, unstable and loves to use quotes and books which he just regurgitates. I don't think I'd like to be in his company. Red flags go off when I watch him, especially his newer material. I like some of the work he's shown us, but I dislike him for reasons that only my gut seems to understand, and that's enough for me.

[@christinebeames2311]

You and me both , he seems a smart Alec with an aggressive streK and a chip on his shoulder , in one of his vids he smiles and it transformers him ,

[@emilycastleman2647]

You are quite intuitive.

[@dinolemma]

Plus he’s in love with Sam Vaknin

[@Claymoreinurface]

I have felt that way as well.

[@powpunkonwhiskey6377]

@@dinolemma oh isn't he just!

[@abstract3213]

Are all those positive comments written by that Richard himself?

[@ollyksandr]

lol

[@grey.knight]

More than likely. He has scored of sock puppet accounts to harass channels he doesn't like or who speak out about him. Its easy to tell when its Richard too the comments always have the same tone.

[@jasonhumphreys8355]

Grannon recently made a conspiracy theory video about propaganda wherein he received criticism from a handful of people, and he retorted by making another video conjuring a multitude of "trolls" that didn't exist in his comments on the propaganda video and freaking out, calling them idiots. Actually referring to people like me who disagreed and made criticism in a polite manner. I railed him for this abuse of his followers and he replied "You need a tissue hun?" In another video he said that depression can be cured in two to three weeks. He has made several claims that there is no scientific evidence for things that there *are* scientific evidence for. He has some good things to say about narcissistic abuse etc, but I'd steer clear of him. He claims to have all these answers that science doesn't, which is one of the first suspect things I noticed after watching his videos. A lot of people on here are saying he doesn't do that. He does. I've heard it, I've seen it. Just look at titles to videos where he claims how to do this, or conquer that. I agree with some of them, but back up your claims. If you can't name sources you're already shady in my book. But at the end of the day (and this isn't me having an ax to grind because he insulted me) I've seen him abuse listeners, and for no reason. The videos are Propaganda and They Want You to be Soft Cupcakes (or something to that effect. It's a recent one). The latter being the one with his tantrum.

[@ann2456]

Jason Humphreys totally agree,!

[@plexasm3623]

NLP is 0.01% of Richard's content - you should mention that. Most of his content is practical, common-sense perspectives on relationships. He's a very intelligent/articulate person who understands abusive relationships very well. He is extremely helpful to people in abusive relationships.

[@melz266]

We got my daughter an academic life coach. It actually helped... She had been blocking her Dad and I out of her life. She was closing down. He really did help her open up, develop confidence and supported good academic practices. That being said, I researched the heck out of all of the ALC's we were considering and gave him key concepts to work on. Also the ALC did use sound psychological techniques. I know this because he would explain which technique he was using and then I researched each technique. They were valid. He also suggested that we get our daughter a licensed child therapist because a she was being bullied by a high-school girl. We followed his advice and our daughter has developed a great way of dealing with bullies, negative feelings and life's dramas. She had actually been developing anorexic tendencies and now she eats normally, wears colors (used to be all black), smiles, does (and hands in) her school work... I do feel like the ACL made my daughter more receptive to getting a therapist and changed the trajectory of her life (For the better).

[@laurenjeangreenbean6301]

So now I can put Master practitioner of NLP to my resume, next to elf spotter and financial advisor. (And financial advisor to elves) dr.g, there's no end to the usefulness of your channel!

[@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093]

Are you in any way associated with the Keebler franchise? Those elves seem to be doing quite well for themselves.

[@laurenjeangreenbean6301]

@@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 my clients are very private mystical beings, and after consulting with the alien lizard humanoids, im afraid I cannot answer that. 😉😇

[@kensyskye8965]

This is interesting as I’ve only watched a few of his videos as he’s quite engaging, but my interest disintegrated when he said ‘ I don’t like people’ on a video about the Peruvian medicine ceremony he attended...Along with a lengthy attack on the people that ran them, I found him very materialistic and very egotistical.....

[@mizread]

@Fiona it could be that his higher intellect and capacity to cut through the BS allows him to see these people for what they are. I'm the same, as they deserve contempt, but that doesnt make me a narcissist. He readily admits that he has narcissistic traits. This is inevitable if you've spent a lot of time around narcissists, especially growing up.

[@finallyfinally9317]

@@mizread I don't think so

[@lena-Ramone]

Could you link that please ☺

[@lena-Ramone]

@Fiona could you link it I'd like to see it ☺

[@letfreedomreignhonk324]

I haven't heard of Richard Grannon before but as someone who has had lots of struggles, bipolar, blah blah. I found I got well when I finally realized it wasn't my partner, my boss, my coworkers, my family causing my problems it was me. When I took responsibility for my physical and mental health I started getting well. All the drs, therapists and programs couldn't help UNTIL I realized I was the only one with a stake in my health. So perhaps the people who got well with him were ready to change, learn, grow etc and he was just the catalyst. Which is great if he was and they did.

[@marinarrentes]

Thank you so much for bringing this up, and for sharing your sources (as always). I was having a hard time finding reputable articles on the topic. Lately the NLP people have been funding their own research, and I've been sent lots of links for articles that represent "proof" that NLP works, but I'm very suspicious of coaching so I didn't really buy it. Thank goodness for your channel for making real information so accessible. I'm gathering as many reputable articles as I can right now, since I just found out the guy I work for wants to become a NLP coach for CHILDREN. PS: I'm also quitting that job today HAHA. It's just nice to have scientific evidence that explains why this goes against my personal values.