TRAINWRECKORDS: Justin Timberlake's "Man of the Woods"

I swear, there was a time when we liked Justin Timberlake. Here's how sexy left and never came back.
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[@O.O_9]

It’s kinda like the joke of when someone finds out they’re 1% black but it was Justin Timberlake finding out he was 1% country music and making it his whole identity

[@DeosPraetorian]

i mean he grew up in Memphis, Tennessee

[@kennynelson3189]

@@DeosPraetorianyeah, and Kid Rock grew up (technically) in Detroit and he had the most white, preppy upbringing possible.

[@Talisguy]

It feels like he's responded to criticisms of cultural appropriation by appropriating a different culture.

[@MrP1nk92]

It makes sense because this album sounds about 1% country

[@ddjsoyenby]

yee haw.

[@reid3031]

"Frank Ocean doesn't have to write sea shanties" ...but what if

[@daveraschke]

I mean I genuinely thought he was a jazz singer for legitimately years

[@johnindigo5477]

​@@daveraschkehonestly

[@drygnfyre]

Now I'm imagining a whole bunch of artists that have to make albums or songs based around their name. Like the artist "James Bay" just makes songs about bodies of water. Or "Sacheen Littlefoot" has to make songs about peopel with small feet and/or footwear.

[@crazyluigi6664]

@@drygnfyre Korn does songs about corn and Limp Bizkit does songs about biscuits.

[@freal]

whitest possible reply

[@Tyler-sy7jo]

What I personally find is the worst crime of Filthy? The opening is so grandiose and feels like its gonna build up to something huge. Then a bassline just drunkenly flops down and staggers about. It's almost comical in retrospect.

[@josephschultz3301]

One of the reasons I despised most of the dubstep tracks that found mainstream pop success is _specifically because_ the beats always sounded like absolute ass. It's like they recorded it 8 minutes ago in a blind panic, kinda like a high school student desperately trying to finish the science project they should've completed a month ago.

[@YelenaSkunky]

It was such a disappointment. Way to trick your audience, Justin.

[@VinchVolt]

it doesn't help that the bassline sounds like it's out of sync with the vocals, as if there was an actual backing track there only for it to get swapped out with the most generic wobble bass at the last minute

[@windmillCR]

Yeah, now that I think of it, it reminds me of another infamous song: Cbat.

[@josephschultz3301]

@@windmillCR _Anything_ that brings to mind Cbat is pretty much automatically cursed.

[@sammyauroraloves]

Re that viral video: I know Bruno Mars was a different artist in 2011 but in hindsight it seems hilarious to think the man responsible for 24K Magic and Silk Sonic was ever considered the antithesis of sexy and smooth.

[@QuickQuips]

Yeah the hard 180 from nice guy persona to swagger was much needed.

[@haydenfisher1387]

The moment he becomes contemporary the sun collapses in on itself lol

[@josh44026]

He was always smooth and a lover

[@josh44026]

​@@haydenfisher1387what does contemporary mean in this context

[@TheHeadcrabFarmer]

@@josh44026 He started doing throwback music that was way better, think uptown funk. However he's been progressing through the decades so soon he'll come back to todays i.e. contemporary music where he started

[@OperatorDirge]

As a man who lives in a heavily wooded area, I can confirm that I consume large insects in upscale restaurants, enrobe myself head-to-toe in flannel, and build dancing robots in my shed.

[@johnindigo5477]

Wolverines husband

[@lovenotegestapo]

As a woman who grew up in the Appalachian mountains, word. All we do is munch on bugs and dance. Can confirm

[@thisisfyne]

As a human being sporting a lush beard, I can confirm that I also like to consume bug entrées while wearing a 300$ wool hat after my super bowl half time performance.

[@millesmedegaard]

Yeah, nothing says “man of the woods” like Michelin star restaurant in Copenhagen

[@whitherwhence]

I lived in the woods for a couple months and now I've just got three robots in the shed, nothing to do with them back in the city

[@KMan6041]

What gets me is that for his 20/20 Experience era, JT *did* update his image to accommodate his advancing age by going from sexy bad boy heartthrob to suave handsome man who wears sharp suits and smokes cigars et al. It worked as a transition into being a sort of elder veteran of the pop scene at that point and made him not look like a Madonna-type chasing lost youth, only for him to go on to do this anyway, which anyone off the street could tell you was a bad idea

[@dackattac]

this is the shocker for me. like, you convincingly made aging gracefully a successful phase of your career; to insecurely chase a new look isn't only gonna make you look shallow, it's gonna put the lie to the maturity too.

[@novatornado5576]

Just realized he kinda had a Robert Palmer arc, thinking of the suaveness and sartorial elegance. I wonder if that's what/who Justin had in mind

[@jamesatkinsonja]

It's almost like he or his management panicked and said 'go back to what worked before' when adapting to being older was more smarter way to go long term.

[@dafunken]

I’m old enough to remember that Madonna had her 20/20 Experience back in ’94 with Bedtime Stories. She was previously known as being risque, and then briefly rebranded herself as a more mature artist with an album of more sophisticated tracks. The cringy Madonna we know now is a result of the later stages of her career, where she’d be better off quitting rather than chase her youth that’s far gone. And it looks like JT just entered that stage of his career.

[@JarrodBaniqued-ucd]

I remember the 14-year-old me seeing that era and looking up to him, Buster Poindexter and Barney Stinson as quasi-role models, it certainly helped fuel my interest in fashion. I miss those days, if only he’d leaned into them more

[@rebeccamcmanus4718]

It's nice to know that even after all this time, as things change, one thing has remained constant: Todd still hates Chris Brown, and will use any excuse to bring it up.

[@allisonsmith5251]

Honestly? Same.

[@daelen.cclark]

It’s appropriate.

[@larissabrglum3856]

Fair

[@BlackTestament]

Same tbh lol i hate that man so much

[@mitchellalexander9162]

But will Kendrick Lamar feud with Chris Brown until he gets ousted from R&B?

[@pumpkinmaryam5500]

“I don’t know how to pleasure myself to Bruno Mars” yeah you can definitely tell this video was from 2011

[@Clay3613]

TBF Bruno's biggest good song at the time was Just the Way You Are. All of the others were forgettable to bad.

[@Reecer77]

@@Clay3613 my god, they didn't even have locked out of heaven. that's so sad.

[@judgesaturn507]

What do you mean? You don't enjoy 'I'll just strut in my birthday suit and let everything hang loose?' Straight poetry, man...

[@fermintenava5911]

People are honestly okay saying that in front of a camera ??????

[@saintrocketIX]

Bruno saw that and took it as a challenge.

[@anneliseware9340]

When i was 15 i had an mri done with the contrast dye. Through this experience I found out i’m mildly allergic to contrast dye. It was pretty harrowing (i thought i was going to die) but the worst part is when i finally made it in the mri booth they played Filthy by Justin Timberlake the entire 30 min i was in there. I would briefly fall asleep only to think “how is it still playing?”

[@lucidkangaroo8973]

This is why I sometimes read the newest comments:

[@OfficialROZWBRAZEL]

@@lucidkangaroo8973 ikr? occasionally they’re not bot spam or a person just letting their brain pee on the carpet

[@Jayyemi]

Filthy might be one of the worst songs in history to die to. My sympathies

[@patchchrist]

Weird flex, but okay?

[@faeriegraver]

I hope that you never have another experience comparable to that for the rest of your life. That half an hour must've felt like a lot longer than that no matter how much of it you were conscious for. When you wake up or come to you aren't aware how much time has gone by. Hope you are in good health now too.

[@thebekahboo3000]

filthy not being an explicit song is the funniest part of the album

[@daelen.cclark]

Parent: “We have W.A.P at home.” W.A.P at home:

[@Plunkcown]

after Filthy came out i would at random times just quote the song to my gf. unpromped, no relevant context: "...haters gonna say its fake.... you know this ain't the clean version"

[@uglyaniimals]

@@Plunkcownyou should've pulled out WHATCHU GONNA GO WITH ALL THIS BEAST and then roared at her

[@blissfulinsomniac5711]

​@@PlunkcownHow did she take it?

[@billtenth5805]

And if Justin was a Comedy Musician then that would have been a good thing.

[@Crazy56U]

2018 legitimately feels like 30 years ago at this point.

[@chrislawuk]

Sadly not in a good way, for me anyway

[@judgesaturn507]

Blame the 'rona

[@vaelethun]

Almost feels like an alternate timeline...

[@vidcas1711]

I was one of the background musicians at 20:57 for Suit and Tie during the Super Bowl, and that whole experience feels simultaneously like it was last year but also 20 years ago.

[@Crazy56U]

@@chrislawuk I never implied I meant that in a good way.

[@BonnieBugsy]

Honestly the NFT Ape rap was the most whiplash-inducing revelation of this video.

[@KaaneDragonShinobi]

had no idea Timbaland fell off THAT hard x.x

[@PhoenixFireZero]

It's nice to know those fuck-ugly things don't look any better animated

[@Betta66]

Wild that Pharrell has now worked with two Trainwreckords artists yet his own career has survived

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Because he's a producer and songwriter first and foremost. People who work behind the scenes always have something else to fall back on.

[@yudhabagaskara98]

He's producer at best

[@SteeZy644]

As long as Universal keeps paying him Despicable Me soundtrack money he will never die culturally

[@jam_plays_games]

He’s also worked with Katy Perry so make that three

[@fangal12]

​@@SteeZy644He feeds off the energy generated by the minions. When they fall off he falls off, their fates are intrinsically linked.

[@thisisacomment.]

As a pop fan, I'll find it so humorous when a pop star makes a song that sounds like a political statement but it's very clear that they have no idea what they're talking about. "Supplies" is "American Life" levels of tone deaf

[@Franniiv3]

Thanks, the American Life rap is now stuck in my head "I'm drinking a Soy Latte..." Now it's stuck in yours😛

[@robertlee2092]

Throw “Edge of a Revolution” in there too and you’ve got about 10 minutes of political music with nothing to say about anything.

[@johnindigo5477]

Cyberpunk flashbacks

[@drygnfyre]

MY SUPPLIES DETERMINE MY TOOL SIZE

[@RyanStorey1231]

@@Franniiv3 I get a double shoté

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

Todd's yelled accusation of "You all fucking loved Justin Timberlake!" Yeah, dude, it's true. Justified was the first album I ever bought with my own money. 10 year old me could never have imagined that this was where we'd end up.

[@hew2356]

When I realized I was attracted to men in 2009 as a sophomore in college, I thought Justin was both sexy and talented. Fifteen years later, I think neither.

[@TheKeeperofChaos]

I feel it so much. As someone who did love JT, and doesn't anymore, seeing so many of my peers I saw bopping Mirror suddenly claim he was always lame and they never liked him (as opposed to admitting things are different and we know more now) is infuriating tbh

[@haleyzwaal4183]

Look, Todd is the one who basically changed my mind on JT. This is on him, not me .... I'm joking. It was actually Shrek 3.

[@bigbearkat2010]

Personally I'm mostly indifferent to his music career but I thought he made himself into a decent actor at least with comedy and he still made for a surprisingly good SNL host

[@Plunkcown]

@@haleyzwaal4183 JT was honestly really good at making himself likable back in the 00's mostly by not taking himself too seriously. The sillier movie roles (esp Shrek the Third) and the very frequent SNL/Jimmy Fallon skits, it all just made him seem like a lovable goofball. I think "Can't stop the feeling" is his biggest hit from the past 10 years because he leans into his goofiness instead of trying to be something else

[@devinphillips9704]

"“For whoever is claiming they are bringing sexy back, sexy never left!" - Prince

[@SahloFolina2161]

I was literally sitting here like “Prince didn’t wanna let it slide-“

[@manband20]

Never forget that JT was the #1 choice for the character of Will Schuster in Glee. We could have had infinite amounts of comedy material if he had just said yes.

[@alligatrix]

oh my god, I literally spent half this video thinking about how much he looks and dresses like will schuster 😭

[@seamusburke639]

"Mr. Schu? I thought for regionals we could sing 'Say Something' to represent the pressure we're all feeling in this politically heavy environment."

[@KariIzumi1]

OH DEAR GOD 😂😂😂😂😂 EDIT: in hindsight, being on that show would've killed his career even faster for how absolutely cheugy the show became in the end, so he dodged a bullet there

[@pumpkinmaryam5500]

I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE GUY THEY CASTED LOOKED LIKE A DISCOUNT JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE AND NOW I KNOW WHY 🤣🤣🤣

[@prometheustv6558]

@@KariIzumi1I hated will

[@benburke3015]

JT being all "my son's name means 'man of the woods' and my last names is Timberlake so I'm going country!!" has the exact same energy as people who discover they're 1/39th Cherokee and make that their whole personality, but significantly more lame.

[@charlottecorday8494]

So he's the pop version of Elizabeth Warren?

[@benburke3015]

@@charlottecorday8494 arguably. lol.

[@bzymek7054]

I've never heard a more scathing piece of critique than the 'pop version of Elizabeth Warren'

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

It’s a nice idea for a concept album, perhaps. Not a total image overhaul.

[@Lampshadeattack]

He’s from Tennessee, so no.

[@magnusengeseth5060]

I can't get over how much his "woodsman" outfits look like a kid that dressed up as a lumberjack for Halloween.

[@edisonlima4647]

It definitely gives Californian hipster who tried to make home brewn beer but got bored and lazy before assembling the alembic!

[@MPSmaruj]

Alternatively: he looks like he's about to burst into "Lumberjack Song" from Monty Python's

[@transopticon13]

like, where's the dog dressed up as a blue ox?

[@Rob_Thorsman]

He has always been someone who doesn't wear clothes, the clothes wear him.

[@bzymek7054]

I'm from Cali, but in college i got a crush on this one country girl, so i started emulating southern stereotypes. I'm pretty sure Justin is less convincing then i was.

[@samb8744]

I think most people said absolutely nothing when Britney was the butt of every joke, so they overcompensated and made Timberlake out to be some insane villain, when the true villain was all of us, (literally the friends we made along the way meme), who stood by and saw a pop star constantly mocked and just let it slide. I always disliked Timberlake (cause of his music), but whenever I see videos like that one at the beginning of this video, of that stand-up not doing any comedy, I think “oh wow, that person must have said some really cruel things about Britney and Janet when they were younger”

[@OfficialROZWBRAZEL]

This is one of the more naked cases of scapegoating/displacment in modern pop culture. As someo ne who never liked him that much, people seemed to have jumped from accusing him of being lame and a jerk, to *Satan* almost overnight

[@caspermcgonagle1532]

It’s ironic too because one of the main takeaways from the Brittany incident should be that we shouldn’t treat celebrities like their either angles or devils and realize they’re just real people that we have never actually met or fully know what’s happening in their lives.

[@tpuddin]

@@caspermcgonagle1532 angles

[@caspermcgonagle1532]

@@tpuddin 📐

[@bigredjanie]

And the bit about him "appropriating black culture"... like yes of course, but that's also true of literally every white who performs genres likes R&B/rock/hip hop, Justin Timberlake isn't even the most notable example of this.

[@sonofaspyder3000]

“Supplies” is especially funny considering his Trolls character has a doomsday bunker

[@heymistercarter.]

Now part of me is wondering if that was meant for the movie and his character, but it didn't get used for one reason or another. Sorta like how, he talked about the theory that Switch, the lead-off single to the Will Smith album he covered, was theorized to be an unused theme song for HITCH (the rom-com he was in at the time), sorta like the themes he did for Men In Black and Wild Wild West.

[@sonofaspyder3000]

@@heymistercarter. the idea of Justin’s attempt at a serious political song being originally intended for the Trolls franchise is SENDING ME

[@daelen.cclark]

I thought the same. It reeks of “I’ve done stuff you like. Honest, I have.”

[@andreap2320]

yeah it was probably written for Trolls...

[@greyblueme9711]

Personally, the only positive feelings I have about Justin & his music is because of the trolls franchise and even that is limited to liking Branch

[@birdenthusiast-km4en]

The thing about the Man of the Woods music video is that it feels like a corporate-approved clipart version of a "country boy". And Justin Timberlake is too crisp, too clean, too touched up for it to read as country at all. He looks like a regular hipster I'd see around Toronto.

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

The whole concept of the album feels like a city guy who's had the bright idea to go and live a "humble" life off-grid, and before the year is up the log cabin has Wifi and a heated swimming pool.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Bohosers.

[@Clay3613]

@@PassTheMarmalade1957 He was born in Memphis and spent most of his life in California/Florida...both of these places have a lot of "country" aka rural areas for him to base an album off of.

[@bzymek7054]

Memphis is not 'country' just cause it's in Tennessee. Also, growing in a red state doesn't mean you have any connection to rural life. He grew up rich, i doubt he was working on a farm.

[@StreptoStar]

​@@Clay3613 Growing up within a 500 mile radius of an orchard does not make a man country

[@LauraGrrrr5370]

"I'll be the generator, turn me on when you need electricity" sounds like a parody song someone would invent specifically for a post-apocalyptic setting. It belongs in a Fallout fanfic. What.

[@lavender_fang]

RIGHT. It's super close to being Foil by Weird Al, only difference is that Foil rules.

[@StarLine317]

This album ruined my Christmas because I had to work on that stupid robot music video. Genuinely, for a bit I thought there was a sequel to iRobot in the works because it was so similar in look. Allegedly, we did it on spec (unpaid, promise of more work), but I was never officially on the project, despite the work I did, so I can't confirm that.

[@drpibisback7680]

Now that's a crime that Justin actually deserves to answer for: stealing Christmas from all those video producers, just like the Grinch, for the sake of fucking _Filthy._

[@daelen.cclark]

I’m sorry you had to spend your time on that. Unpaid, no less.

[@kokotheclown2588]

That’s messed up that you did all that work for an awful song and even worse music video unpaid too now that’s just the nail in the coffin

[@ali6418]

I am so SO glad that Todd is out here constantly pointing out that pop culture was really REALLY weird about Britney Spears, for like, her entire career at this point. Leave Britney alone indeed.

[@lol88133]

Tood

[@craigstephenson7676]

Tood

[@Karmy.]

Jobs

[@arrowpride5468]

Tood

[@reid3031]

Tood

[@stefangalma6884]

Timberlake nowadays feels like he's trying to convince his kids he was cool back in the day and them saying "sure you were, dad"

[@drygnfyre]

He's doing what Madonna has been trying to do ever since "American Life" flopped. Prove she's still relevant and can make cool, hip music for all the kids. Neither seem to like the idea of aging gracefully and/or embracing their older audience. Which is weird, because for a time Timberlake seemed to be making it a fairly decent actor and I kind of thought he'd just do that over make music.

[@Propanesucka]

If only he'd pulled a Johnny Cage and leaned into the corny "dad trying to be cool" angle.

[@NathanHautain]

​@@drygnfyre Confessions On A Dance Floor slapped

[@user-rn6en5vq1m]

@@drygnfyre Madonna still made some great music after American Life, Confessions on a Dancefloor was a real return to form that had some great singles and proved to be itself, influential. To me, she just more gradually declined and didn't get to the point of still trying to prove her coolness until she did Bitch, I'm Madonna. Truly one of the most embarrassing singles she ever put out, right up there with American Life. Aside from the single Ghost Town, Rebel Heart signaled to me, Madonna really had lost her relevance and just wasn't making good music anymore.

[@drygnfyre]

@@user-rn6en5vq1m I actually did like "Confessions" and I think she had some decent singles here and there. But overall, I think she really took the flop of "American Life" too heart and also didn't like the idea of being an "oldies act." So by the early 10s she was doing songs about clubbing, getting drunk. Stuff that just didn't really feel authentic, so to speak. And I believe around that time she stopped getting any Billboard hits. Still incredibly successful to this day, of course, but it just felt really "forced" to keep trying to act like she was in her 20s or 30s. I don't know, just my perception.

[@ZanraiKid]

The fact that you were actively talking about “Filthy” of all songs, and you sidetracked to talk about a Timbaland produced Bored Ape rap I was not aware about, and _that_ is what sucked the life out of me. Todd, my exposure to this channel and its weird cursed tangents has taken years of my life. Thank you

[@lennoxbaumbach390]

I second this motion.

[@DashingSteel]

Amen to that. It's hard to top "Whatchu gonna do with all that MEAT" on a cringe scale but Bored Ape Rap? That'll do it.

[@PrinzPassionsfrucht]

Up to that Moment, I didn't know that Bored Ape rap existed but it didn't surprise me at all that Timbaland produced it. This honestly seemed like something He would do to become relevant again, because someone told him NFT's were: "the Future!"

[@zombieedrea]

As a Todd viewer since 2011: agreed. And I've enjoyed every minute of it.

[@stilljamming]

Another Bored Ape rap had Eminem and Snoop Dogg on it.

[@docdave15]

Two realizations I had upon re-watching this. 1. This almost reminds me of Tom Petty's Southern Accent. Someone trying to get back to their rootsy elements but ending up producing something more synth heavy. Differences being Southern Accent is good and is more authentic. 2. If Justin wanted to go the country route while still being a pop star, he should've modeled himself on John Denver. He was a folky country guy who was a mainstream hit. But his music was more about the beauty and majesty of nature, not the "I'm a mountain man who wear flannels and does outdoor stuff."

[@docdave15]

Third realization: Justin's attempt at a new imagine was still dancing around like he always did is giving me "Funky Headhunter" flashbacks.

[@shadowofdreams14]

2 is a really good point. Part of the problem is that Country is often about humility, its about loving your small town and dealing with the hand life dealt you and loving the things others don't understand. You listen to Country to feel seen. Timberlake's whole image was deeply prideful, his biggest song was him declaring that he would bring Sexy back. You listen to Timberlake to feel cool. The whole album feels like a weird humblebrag in a way that is too bizarre to be cool but too self-absorbed to feel a connection.

[@sam3851]

You're right, but since this album felt so much like Justin having a masculinity crisis and overcompensating for it, I think an album of him being humble and appreciating nature would be basically out of the question. Not saying that stuff isn't masculine or anything, just that it wouldn't be what JT would grasp for in his attempt to look like a real boy

[@jmac356]

John Denver was more folk than country, IMO. Pop country does exist though, Keith Urban being a brilliant example.

[@SeanStrife]

To your second point... the main question I have for that is, does Justin have the necessary skill set to pull off John Denver?

[@casketbase7750]

To quote your MC Hammer Trainwreckord: "This whole thing just made me kinda sad. He just wanted to be liked."

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

In Justin's case: He wanted to be accepted - both as an R&B act and "serious artiste".

[@Ryan07_20]

JT made too many douchy comments over the course of his career to want to be liked. Thing with him was that in spite of his behavior, he was always liked even if he did set up wedding videos with homeless people or disrespecting Britney Spears on radio shows

[@drygnfyre]

There's also a parallel in that both wanted to be more "serious." MC Hammer wanted to be seen as a harder, legit gangster. Timberlake wanted to be a more soulful country artist. Neither could pull it off because their previous styles and sounds were more pop rap and pop music. Frankly, lot of parallels with Jewel and Katy Perry, too. All examples people trying to branch out into other styles and sounds, and it didn't land (maybe unfairly, who knows).

[@BROJANGSTER]

“wanted to liked”

[@LynnHermione]

no, it is that he sexually harassed and used women to further his career

[@BrandonA1]

I could Tell Todd was waiting for Timberlake to release new music to "officially" classify it as a Trainwreckord, but Timberlake has been such a trainwreck the last few months that it's the perfect time

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Notice how his problems started happening on the 20th anniversary of the Super Bowl fiasco. I don't think that's by accident.

[@joshuacoleman8000]

​@@pervertedalchemist9944 WDYM?

[@abigailchiesa1337]

Justin DID release new music a few months ago lmao. It flopped so hard that I didn’t realize that the album had already come out until I looked it up after the news of the arrest broke

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

@@joshuacoleman8000 The first two singles from "Everything I Thought It Was" flatlined on the charts.

[@johnindigo5477]

I remember a comment from the witness review I think, that was counting on the 5 year anniversary of motw. Same with jbs purpose, and some flop eras from the last decade. A lot of people waiting for this since 2018. I still remember Todd's filthy review. Times really flown.

[@DiamondAxeStudiosMusic]

Justin Timberlake is heading towards Bojack Horseman territory way faster than I'd like to admit.

[@liamgillett9068]

Jesus Christ just waiting for him to sleep with his best friends daughter who’s underage now that you put bojack imagery in my head

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

To be honest: He - like most pop stars age out. He refused to accept that and make more mature music.

[@user-th9fv5hn1z]

That and like bojack, he's known for ruining others' careers for his own gain and to save his own back

[@lucasgraeff5391]

lamo

[@GamingtheOtter]

Should we expect an authentic rehab album?

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

“Did a high schooler write this about her boyfriend during lunch?” Funniest line in the video. We need a quote board like a 2000s website with all of Todd’s greatest lines

[@judgesaturn507]

'Like the wings of a butterfly' energy And yes, I second that

[@hew2356]

That was the perfect response to such saccharine dreck........

[@SomeRPGFan]

One of the most cringe things I have ever heard (the song of course, not Todd's quote).

[@xexpaguette]

27:25

[@dimentiorules]

One of my favourites is "I'm tired of listening to shitty clubs songs about dancing in shitty clubs listening to shitty club songs!"

[@JonathanLedbetter]

1:24 Les Moonves does not get NEARLY enough blame and hate for ending Janet's career. Like 90% of the hate Justin gets over the fallout from Nipplegate SHOULD go to Moonves. He actually owned the stations that played her music. Had I been aware of Moonves' blackballing of Janet, I would have called a lot more of his radio stations demanding they play Janet (even if that lead single kinda blew).

[@Belgand]

I had thought her career was already over by that point. Her peak of Control and Rhythm Nation was back in the '80s and she'd kind of vanished from the popular consciousness by that point. I was honestly surprised that she was even still recording.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Les met his karma recently when he was forced to step down due to allegations.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

​@Belgand She was still selling multi-platinum right before that incident. Her albums prior to the Super Bowl were "All For You" and "The Velvet Rope" - both of which were hugely successful.

[@kamfrusciante]

@@Belgand All For You in 2001 sold 605k and the title track went #1 for seven weeks, she was very much still popular. Even after the Super Bowl, Damita Jo sold 381k first week and was blocked by Confessions from not debuting on #1 on the BBH200.

[@JonathanLedbetter]

​​@@Belgand "All for You" was a massive hit in 2001. Prior to that, she had "Doesn't Really Matter" from 2000, "Together Again" from 1998, and "Runaway" in late 1995 -- all of which were big songs that reached chart highs even in the era of Spice Girls, Lilith Fair and the boy bands. It was not inconceivable that Damita Jo's singles could have reached similar heights. Edit: And she has tons of hit singles off of 1993's janet.

[@justaturtle]

I died laughing when the just girly things logo showed up, like the girl who ran that tumblr blog is a lesbian so the idea that she would say she wants to wear a mans shirt is so funny with that added context

[@ToddintheShadows]

I mean, she did say that. I've seen the post. She said a lot of things on that blog

[@justaturtle]

@ToddintheShadows I wasn't doubting that she made a post saying something similar, it was a submission based blog so she posted lots of things. It was just the idea that she would personally say it that I found amusing, sorry that I wasn't clear

[@jamescook5783]

@@ToddintheShadows Like what?

[@reid3031]

​@@jamescook5783you should go check yourself, it's a harrowing rabbit hole

[@abg5381]

@@jamescook5783 go and read it it still exists

[@siggy32]

"I love the way his shirt feels against my skin, like it's touching the wings of a butterfly" - Jessica Biel feat. Faith Hill in a parallell universe

[@Bi0mega]

The song 'Man of the Woods' sounds like it should be played over the opening titles of a CGI movie. Something where John Goodman plays a sasquatch who finds his mountain home being bulldozed tto make room for more urban development and he has to get a job in the Big City, just something really low-stakes that makes a bajillion dollars in its first month and is utterly forgotten about four months after its release.

[@patrickmack9462]

So the Trolls movies basically?

[@miticaBEP07]

Except it’s not John Goodman, it’s either Chris Pratt or James Corden.

[@patrickmack9462]

@@miticaBEP07 I meant not in terms of which actors starred in it, but more in the sense of being a very generic and disposable cgi kids movie.

[@billclockwell]

​@@miticaBEP07true, John Goodman does not need CGI to play sasquatch

[@postaldudeirl]

so avatar

[@TheGhostofRandolphBourne]

Kinda feels like we're using Justin Timberlake as a scapegoat to avoid acknowledging our own culpability in the way Ms. Spears and Ms. Jackson were treated...

[@ssshar2176]

Bingo. Even today. Britney can’t speak, post or write anything without it being dissected as a pseudo Justin post. What a disservice and dismissive air to that.

[@RyanStorey1231]

@@ssshar2176 And frankly, I think Britney's issues stem from a whole lot more than her breakup with some dude she dated when she was 19.

[@lilren2021]

So true!

[@hfbdbsijenbd]

What's this "our culpability" nonsense? If you do feel culpable for the Brittany media storm that was fed to a very willing audience, why are you participating in yet another one? This video is 35 minutes of an Internet nobody ripping on Timberlake at a time where ripping on Timberlake is what all the internet nobodies are doing. And you are eating it right up. Don't lie with this "our culpability" nonsense. You love it.

[@leaffinite2001]

​@hfbdbsijenbd they never even said being culpable was bad, or that they arent participating in ripping on justin. Youre arguing with what you think they said, not reality. Chill the fuck out

[@thepeopleonthecouch2928]

I find it funny and interesting that the last three Trainwreckords episodes have been about a rock band going pop, a country singer going pop, and a pop star going country, in that order.

[@daigneauray7087]

What goes around…

[@daelen.cclark]

Then a country band is gonna go rock, right?

[@daigneauray7087]

@@daelen.cclark So Babel by Mumford and Sons?

[@daelen.cclark]

@@daigneauray7087 Was that a failure?

[@daigneauray7087]

@@daelen.cclark Depends. Did you think Mumford & Sons should sound like a more mainstream rock group or did that simply strip away what made them so good in the first place?

[@ClintWestwood-nj4fg]

'Supplies' feels like a Lonely Island song Justin sent to the wrong producer.

[@dontcallmeriles]

oh my god you’re so right. i was trying to figure out why supplies felt so weirdly familiar to me-it’s basically a lonely island song 😭

[@Jaceblue04]

A Trainwreckord 6 years in the making. It was worth every second of the wait.

[@yudhabagaskara98]

It's a long overdue

[@Dethmaster64]

Cheered when I got the notification

[@notsojharedtroll23]

​@@yudhabagaskara98i agree. He feels like an industry plant from back then

[@jultejock7185]

Gabumon!

[@genghiscan2918]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him.

[@mesousagaby740]

"CAUSE CHANGING MY SOUND KILLED MY CAREER, OKAY?!"

[@ILikedGooglePlus]

What a deep cut

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

He wanted to be taken seriously. Apparently, Justin forgot that pop artists are never given that kind of leeway. Just ask George Michael.

[@drpibisback7680]

​@@pervertedalchemist9944 Isn't his serious stuff like Careless Whisper today more closely associated with George Michael than anything he did with Wham? Like, this is genuine question, was he really trapped in the mold of unserious popstar? I don't know enough about George Michael to be sure, but I was under the impression that people were surprised but not opposed to his turn.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

@@drpibisback7680 Yeah he was. Remember, his entire album "Listen Without Prejudice" was all about wanting to be taken seriously. His battle with Columbia Records at that time was largely due to him fighting against being perceived as a sex symbol. Why else do you think he didn't appear in any videos from that album?

[@Chibbykins]

​@@pervertedalchemist9944 he *was* taken seriously. Honestly for how corny he could be, he was given a lot of leeway as a popstar

[@benabramowitz18]

I swear, this is going to ruin the tour. The WORLD tour!

[@daelen.cclark]

THIS is where that meme is from?

[@abigailchiesa1337]

@daelen.cclark yes, when Justin got arrested for his DUI the arresting officer was a 22 year old rookie who didn’t know who he was and that was the exchange that happened

[@MACMAMI]

He'll need to have a residency at the Fontainebleau for the rest of his life to make up for the lost tour revenue, hahahaha!

[@jbmp1390]

Saw that article which claims he said that. There's literally zero proof or corroboration that he actually said it, and I find it unlikely that he did. It just fits the media narrative too perfectly

[@daelen.cclark]

@@jbmp1390 Makes sense, I guess.

[@tennypenny8737]

I remember on Anthony Fantano's video about this album someone said that this album was "Reverse engineering Bro Country" and yeah that's what the first part sounds like. Why the hell he chose those as the singles and not the better stuff on the other end of the album I have no idea.

[@d_alistair-years]

It was Todd who said that, funnily enough 😆

[@daelen.cclark]

You think those singles were just the only songs Justin completed by then? I can believe that.

[@johngregor6743]

Two thoughts I had in quick succession: 1) Yeah, that Alicia Keys collaboration got exactly as much attention as it deserved, and 2) This Jessica Biel spoken word thing has me longing he spent more time on that Alicia Keys collaboration

[@hew2356]

That spoken word segment was terrible......

[@edisonlima4647]

The true "filth" was imagining this worse-than-AI spoken word as an answer to someone asking "why are you wearing a funky sweaty ragged shirt to a business meeting, Miss Biel?"

[@seamusburke639]

Seriously Alicia’s collabs got so boring.

[@bangitybangbabang]

Wow I actually loved the Alicia keys duet😂 guess I have terrible tase

[@KyriosJones]

“Attempted movie star and future hard jeopardy question, Jessica Biel” is brutal 😂

[@omaralexanderdelgado6529]

Goddamn

[@sketchyjulia]

Biel with it

[@carolyns4519]

Im fairly certain "Jeopardy question" was a line in Bojack, the one Biel sets Zack Braff on fire

[@carolyns4519]

I'm pretty sure the "jeopardy question" joke is from Bojack Horseman, the episode when Biel sets Zack Braff on fire

[@Chibbykins]

​@@carolyns4519 100% a Bojack joke, Todd even used a pic of her character on the show

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

Most apt timing for a Trainwreckord ever...

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

And we all knew it was coming at some point, LOLOL!

[@PhenomenalJec]

Justin couldn't have timed it better if he tried

[@yudhabagaskara98]

After Will Smith 2 years ago

[@bels3873]

Serendipitous. ETA: FUCK. I wrote this BEFORE I saw Justin say it in the video. Goddamnit.

[@Talisguy]

Law of averages meant that even Todd was due at least one moment of good timing.

[@royalfrost1]

Man of the Woods and The Funky Headhunter by MC Hammer -- two examples where the artists technically had been born in the cultures they were appropriating for their art, but by the time of their release had basically Ship of Theseus'ed themselves into entities that would not be caught dead in said culture and only end up embarrassing themselves with just how much their choices make them look like posers.

[@grahamkristensen9301]

At least MC Hammer had actual gang connections and wasn't afraid to use them. If Justin went into the stix to try and roll with the hillbillies, he'd get mauled by a bear in less than a week.

[@yutastimetoshine]

​@@grahamkristensen9301on top of that, at least funk headhunter had some good songs on it it just had a bad rebrand

[@nejdalej]

That rogue 'Because music killed my grandma' knocked me dead lmaooo 😂

[@monitaroy7462]

I knew that meme would show up somehow but it still took me out

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

I love how you describe it as “rogue”, as if Todd had no control in the editing bay over when it popped up xD

[@MSF482]

To give people a sense of how beloved Justin Timberlake was in the late 00's, VH1 named him one of the 100 greatest artists OF ALL TIME! Just off of his first two albums. That is how high industry people thought he would soar.

[@drygnfyre]

I still maintain that the levels of fame Britney, Christina, BSB and *NSYNC from roughly 98-02 is something that is probably not possible today. Todd said this about MC Hammer, but people forget just how big a deal this "Big Four" were. I remember TRL being so important to the demographic they were targeting during that time period that apparently, the studio and the surrounding area had to be shut down because so many people showed up to see BSB. I mean, this was still that point in time before the Internet made everything so accessible, so your career was pretty much built by MTV exposure. So virtually no one else had a chance until these ones faded from the spotlight, which happened around 2003 or so.

[@cic8399]

THIS! People forget how high his stock was at the end of the 2000s. He was one of Billboard’s biggest artists of that decade with only two albums under his belt and was widely recognized as THEE millennial male pop star.

[@VicDealio]

Like it or not, he honestly did soar that high. Nothing he can do can change that any more than Madonna's constant attempts to ruin her legacy.

[@giovanigeorgis3848]

I don’t blame him. His first 4 albums are insanely good.

[@Carewolf]

Well 100 is a lot of artists. I doubt more than 20 will survive the list to the next century.

[@addisonharris8062]

As a Memphis native, it’s really funny how much JT is trying to come off as Appalachian when his hometown is extremely flat and part of the river delta.

[@shamelesshussy]

And all his outdoor visuals used for that era were clearly way west of the Mississippi.

[@jacobmtcastle5741]

Right?? He’s on the exact opposite end of the state from Appalachia

[@Ironman1o1]

@@jacobmtcastle5741 DUDE, that excuse drove me nuts. West Tenn. is the fucking start of the GREAT PLAINS.

[@vampman87]

In 2002 I read an article that declared Justin Timberlake the NEW King of Pop. The article basically bashed Michael Jackson (whose comeback album "Invincible" flopped hard a few months back) calling him crazy and out of touch with the new millennium, then praised Justin for being hip and cool with tracks that modern club-goers go crazy for. I find this video analysis fascinating because Justin basically fell into the same musical trappings that Michael did- both had a distinct style that worked well for them in one decade, couldn't really cross over to the next, and then failed spectacularly the decade after that because they just couldn't evolve. I guess Justin really WAS the "New King of Pop."

[@antibishonen]

Still awaiting that Trainwreckords. And also Glitter

[@VinchVolt]

Incidentally, Timberlake's first album featured multiple songs that were written for Invincible, only for Jackson to turn them down.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

@@VinchVolt I remember 'Rock your Body' was offered to MJ first.

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

@@antibishonen8 million records and the album containing you rock my world isn’t a flop considering the only reason he didn’t release another album was cause he died. His comeback tour was sold out. And the emancipation of Mimi came out AFTER glitter. We belong together is like one of her biggest songs lol

[@Blewishthegreat]

Honestly i think its time for todd to do away with the whole “killed career” thing and focus on famously bad albums because we need s glitter review

[@dragonpullman23]

Despite it being a flop single, "Filthy" received continuous play at the bowling alley I was working at throughout 2018. It wasn't removed from the alley's regular music rotation until after 2019 began. I guarantee you that I heard that song more times than Todd has.

[@drpibisback7680]

I salute your fortitude. If I had to be subjected to that shit constantly as a condition of being employed, I'd start to seriously consider homeless poverty.

[@dizzydaisy909]

@@drpibisback7680 i dunno, i feel like i would've kept my job at my uni gym if this was on there instead of nav and drake 24/7

[@dragonpullman23]

@@drpibisback7680 I don't know how many times I heard it, but it was certainly enough times to lose count. More than 50 times for sure.

[@penofficial_]

I’m sorry you had to go through that. It must have been traumatic. I hope you have recovered from that.

[@LynnHermione]

He gets MASSIVE payola, the flop nsync reunion also got radioplay even tho no one wanted it. Meanwhile POC artists like Jungkook and Jimin were backlisted from radio even tho their songs reached number 1 on hot 100 and are still in the most streamed songs worldwide.

[@GrafVonTirol]

Trainwreckord causes so far: * Trendchasing that went nowhere (0304, The Funky Headhunter, Ringo the 4th) * "I'll prove the doubters wrong!" (Kilroy Was Here, Funstyle, Passage) * Ego (Be Here Now (the Gallaghers), American Life (Madonna), Cut the Crap (Bernie Rhodes), Summer in Paradise (Mike Love), Mission Earth (L. Ron Hubbard)) * Band/group drama (Van Halen III (especially on Eddie's end), Mardi Gras (arguments with a controlling John Fogerty), St. Anger (Some Kind of Monster), American Dream (four guys that can't stand each other, and only done as a favor), Crown Royal (D wanted nothing to do with it)) * Baffling/inconsistent directions (Cyberpunk, Crash, Witness, Generation Swine, No Fixed Address, Cry, Man of the Woods) * Personal baggage (MTV Unplugged 2.0, Paula, Two the Hard Way, Lost and Found) * A serious case of sophomore slump (Fairweather Johnson, Zingalamaduni, Turn It Upside Down)

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

"Man Of The Woods" could also qualify for the first three categories, LOL!

[@dizzydaisy909]

it's weird thinking about how many of these there are

[@louisduarte8763]

I'm still trying categorize what make a singer or band a "One-Hit Wonder" this way.

[@dragonpullman23]

"Generation Swine" could also fall under Band/Group Drama.

[@dragonpullman23]

@@dizzydaisy909 It's also weird to think that Todd has kept his "Trainwreckords" series going for almost 7 years now. His first 2 episodes of this series ("0304" and "Kilroy Was Here") were uploaded before "Man Of The Woods" came out.

[@TheLovelyTraveler]

Why would you only Google your child's name AFTER they've been born and you've given them that name? Surely the Googling should have happened during the name search/ negotiation phase?

[@akaihys]

i had a weird coworker once who had a daughter named jade but didn’t seem to have any idea that jade is a kind of stone or even a shade of green. some people really just pick baby names they think sound cool and don’t go any further.

[@sonofaspyder3000]

THANK YOU THIS WAS BOTHERING ME

[@jamesatkinsonja]

In fairness most people just pick names based on if they like them/named after a celeb or family names without knowing the meaning of it. James apparently means 'he will follow' according to wiki but as it's a common name I doubt many people know that [case in point, it's my name [I was named after my grandfather] and I had to look it up!].

[@jamesatkinsonja]

@@akaihys An amusing example the other way was actor Anthony 'Norman Bates' Perkins naming his youngest son Elvis but said it wasn't due to Presley but that it meant 'Fair of face'...when there's no evidence it means that!

[@harryeast95]

He really wanted to name his kid after a Wolverine bad guy but he's a hipster so went with Silas Burr.

[@justme0910]

I like to think that the Steve Jobs parody in the "Filthy" video was inspired by the fact that Jobs almost never bathed.

[@starryeyes999]

ay noooooo ;-;

[@QuickQuips]

​​@@starryeyes999check out behind the Bastards episodes about him.

[@Tookish_By_Nature.]

I was happier 10 seconds ago when I didn't know this. Thanks for that.

[@leowilliamson1573]

Sigma youtubers: The grindset is stealing womens' passports, working ten hour shifts, and staying in your lane. Actual sigmas like Steve Jobs: Never shower because you think body odor is caused by eating meat so an only fruit diet means you can't be dirty. Force them to watch you clean yourself in a toilet before an important meeting and they say you're stinky.

[@KaaneDragonShinobi]

I knew he was a trash human being, never knew he smelled like it too

[@anthonydaniel9534]

The lesson I get from Man of the Woods is that pop stardom is not designed for longevity. Justin Timberlake is a cautionary tale that all things end, and some things end sooner than others.

[@jonathanhoush2384]

That's why you need Pop Star Tupperware!

[@mjtubeme]

Honestly, Todd does have a point. Is Justin REALLY to blame for Janet and Britney? When the public, media, and music industry HONESTLY did more damage to both of them. But instead of taking accountability for our own actions and asking the harder questions (with the exception of the Free Brittany Movement). We decided to take the easier route and blame "the mediocre white guy." NOT to say he isn't part of the problem, cause he DEFINITELY is! But these are more complex issues than most of us would like to admit.

[@ssshar2176]

Agree

[@xaviervonerck7430]

I have thought Timberlake is lame forever... but the idea that these idiotic zoomers are hating on him and not the conservatives who went after both Jackson and him is just a great example of how they only go after easy targets. Same with Britney. Hey, how about targeting the fact that the government doesn't handle the mentally ill well? That there's no oversight to situations like the one her father worked her into? Oh wait, nah, that's hard... let's hate on the goofy ex-mouseketeer instead, that'll change things! The tabloid sleazeball paparazzi media, the people who made fun of her mental health breakdowns with the umbrella, her family, the government that didn't protect her... nahhhhhh. Cancel the lame boy band goof instead. Punch at the real problem for once, jesus christ.

[@VidWatcher01]

That one TV executive went out of his way to tank Janet's carreer but I don't think it was Her cds are still selling, tickets to her tours are still selling in high numbers so I think she is going relatively strong.

[@KariIzumi1]

Oh no, we Britney and Janet fans hate the other people involved too (and as a Trek fan, I’ve been hating Moonves for 20 years over Star Trek Enterprise lol) He maybe got a bit more plausible deniability for Janet, but the dude’s very first single was him lying about Britney cheating on him, so uh….yeah.

[@scoopmaloop3203]

"Minor villain" sums it up. I can't forgive him for letting decades go by without doing a thing to help Janet - but ultimately, he's a tiny piece of the fucked-up puzzle. He's just more fun to hate than the other guys.

[@user-sc6ib8qd4o]

I am 100% certain that Frank Ocean could write a sea shanty that would make you cry

[@d9zirable]

He wouldn't do it anyway because he hates us

[@leelee7609]

Have been mumbling “suppli-ie-ieeees” to myself all day since seeing this

[@vaelethun]

Yeah, it's one of the risks of watching (and RE-watching) Todd's videos XD

[@rikimaru700]

Thanks to todd, the start of man of the woods is stuck in my head

[@hershelroswell]

thanks to your profile picture i've been gifted(?) with the mental image of teddie singing it

[@BrendanJSmith]

The hook is actually really good. It's the rest of the song that's dumb.

[@TheKeeperofChaos]

Witness, St. Anger, and at long last, Man of the Woods The Holy Trinity of Trainwreckords is complete

[@hambor12]

Now we just need Bionic

[@Thor-Orion]

Rage Against the Machine- Renegades. Such a train record that the singer left and they haven’t released any new music in 20 years, despite reuniting several times over those decades.

[@calmbbaer]

@@Thor-Orion - It got decent reviews and I never considered it an "official" RATM album. I had to look it up to remind myself whether it was actually intended as a covers album or just a B-sides album that happened to have a bunch of covers. And it seemed only coincidental in time to their break-up, not instrumental in it. A much better covers album candidate for TW is Duran Duran's.

[@sirgemini5743]

chinese democracy is in my top three most desirable trainwreckords episodes, the duke nukem forever of albums.

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

My life will not be complete until Todd takes on the (imo) ultimate trainwrecord: Songs of Innocence.

[@Saintlazysunday]

All these clips of Justin Timberlake look like a mockumentary of Justin Timberlake staring Justin Timberlake.

[@daigneauray7087]

With a special guest appearance by Justin Timberlake.

[@teruienages962]

Even Weird Al knew to not play himself in his, and it was actually a really good movie.

[@radioactivehalfrhyme]

The “Man of the Woods” video almost looks like it could be a bit from Tropic Thunder.

[@jonothanthrace1530]

@@radioactivehalfrhyme The way he wears that flannel shirt with only the top two buttons feels like visual code from a Scary Movie-era comedy for "this character has a learning disability and that's the joke".

[@haidynwendlandt2479]

I think it’s kind of funny how hard it is to distinguish the tone of Justin Timberlake’s character in Inside Llewyn Davis compared to his actual, real-life self

[@jessaminemanchester]

16:35 if I had a nickel for every 2016-2018 trainwreckord whose imagery included the phrase "do you see me" I'd have two nickels

[@NJGuy1973]

And the only weird thing is that it hasn't happened more often.

[@heejinators7342]

Oh Sh!tness the legendary flop that you are

[@redwaytoo]

"Supplies" feels like a novelty Weird Al track, like doomsday shelters are kinda a 50s kitch esthetic that Al used sometimes in his early albums

[@daelen.cclark]

Weird Al would do it better.

[@KaaneDragonShinobi]

That's why he was so excited to go to the Hardware Store He needed to get his suppliiiyyyiiiyiiiies

[@jpthomas9491]

Frank Ocean doesn't have to write sea shanties, but I'd certainly like to hear it if he did

[@davidk7439]

11:53 "everyone's face will be like they want to shit their pants" JT, the first popstar to think the brown note is desirable

[@SamAronow]

Congratulations, that sounds like a joke Todd himself could've made.

[@courtneythompson6179]

Not gonna lie I thought the censor was referring to something else but then again it would probably be too cringe to be that crass

[@roarshach13]

The lyrics to supplies sound like those moronic nerds who thought that they were going to be the best equipped for a zombie apocalypse and that all the cheerleaders and football players would have to get behind them because years of watching George Romero movies and playing Resident Evil had prepared them for this moment

[@jojijoestar7233]

“Why you say fuck me for?” George A. Romero and the Resident Evil franchise

[@CastlesComments]

Off-topic but the most prepped people in the world for a zombie apocalypse are clearly running backs anyway

[@roarshach13]

@@CastlesComments well of course! Football players are trained to run for long distances without getting tired and are heavily strength trained. They could probably easily break through doors just buy charging into them. These losers seriously thought that they could pick up any gun in existence and would immediately become an expert at it just because they could get head shots in left 4 dead. Never mind that you have to constantly clean guns to keep them from jamming, and I guarantee you a lot of them would immediately die as soon as they got caught off guard by the kickback from their very first shot, causing them to either break their backs or sprained their ankle leaving them completely helpless to the encroaching zombie horde

[@seanmcloughlin5983]

There’s this book called Jam by game reviewer Yahtzee and it digs at this exact premise Society is brought down by carnivorous strawberry jam and the only survivors were office types who spent all night at their work and forum nerds who all agreed to meet up at this mall when the apocalypse happened and are still essentially role playing It’s very dry humor but I liked it

[@oaf-77]

A track off an unfinished post apocalypse themed concept album

[@rubberwoody]

this album is if "I'll put you in a mansion....somewhere in wiscansin" was turned into SEVERAL songs

[@BellesView]

LMFAO

[@ABoyNamedArt]

"Frank Ocean doesn't have to write sea shantys." OK but what if he DID.

[@patrickmack9462]

I think the moment Todd realized that “Supplies” was going to have “tImElY PoLiTiCaL cOmMeNtArY” when he saw the random news b roll filtered through the American flag probably gave him Vietnam flashbacks from Madonna’s “American Life”.

[@novatornado5576]

Plus that one song on the Nickelback Trainwreckord has that as well

[@ChrisTopher-id4mz]

@@novatornado5576NickelBlackLivesMatter

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

I gotta love how he said "Fuck you!" to a kid saying pretentious shit in the music video.

[@patrickmack9462]

@@novatornado5576 come to think of it, this might actually be worse than “Edge of a Revolution” or any of the faux rebellion pop songs because at least there was an attempt to make a point (if possibly insincere and very hack) about modern society whereas the “Supplies” music video just tricks you into thinking this is going be to be a political statement when it’s literally just a former boy band member bragging about being a doomsday prepper.

[@phantomtennisasmr]

@@patrickmack9462 Edge of a Revolution is at least a fun song to listen to if you like angry rock music. SuPpLY-EE-EYEEES sucks.

[@jayolovitt5969]

I think every generation’s big heartthrob star gets kind of taken down because inevitably they become uncool and old and, due to the weird bubble of fame, they end up being into weird, easy to cringe at stuff.

[@threepiecefishandchips]

I mean, at least Usher seems all right, even if his latest material isn't exactly setting the world on fire

[@johnindigo5477]

​@@threepiecefishandchipsit's all about aging gracefully. You either step back and help the kids out or you try and steal the limelight with more stunts and tricks. I'm not a Beyonce fan but she doesn't fall into the trap of needing to prove she's relevant. Even if she doesn't have another song on the radio for ten years shell have a pretty solid reputation. Though in her case you have to consider just how massive a fan base it is.

[@drygnfyre]

@@johnindigo5477 Yeah, "aging gracefully" is very important. Look at how hard Madonna has been trying since "American Life" to come off as hip, cool. She was doing club songs about "being carded" when she's in her 60s. It doesn't work. Usher seems like he's fine with being older and living off his past successes. Timberlake seems like he wants to still be young and hip when he's not. I think what happens is the moment some artists kind of see their moment fading, they try to do these major career swerves and it doesn't work. It just makes them seem desperate or fake. Both Justin and Katy Perry seemed to have fallen into this trap. Wheraes Beyonce, like you mentioned, seems to just put out music and isn't concerned about trying to reinvent herself. She just puts out music when she feels like it. It's hard to explain but you can kind of feel the difference in their approaches. Look at someone like Weird Al. Has always been around and always seems to be well-liked. In recent years he seems to have slowed down making music, but now you see him working with the new generation of comedians. He directs videos, he does backing vocals, things like that. He aged gracefully in that sense, recognizing he might not a household name for all that much longer, so why not help out the younger comedians?

[@daelen.cclark]

@@drygnfyre That’s a good way of looking at it. When you’re older; it’s better to step back a bit, help out the new guys like you were, and put out another song or two as a treat.

[@babykekse5137]

So Harry Styles is next?

[@sereñiarosa]

it's plain to see he was inverting "keep your filthy hands off me" but it obviously didn't land as well as he had hoped

[@mitzo4526]

Justin timberlake’s new single, “get your paws on me you damn dirty ape!” Did not sell very well

[@ludmillanon]

What you gonna do with all that meat is one of the most unintentionally funny lyrics ever.

[@Champiness]

It sounds like a lyric from an SNL sketch that requires music but where the central joke isn’t about the music

[@jonathanhoush2384]

The follow-up line, with the stock tiger growl, just takes it that one step further.

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

@@jonathanhoush2384the lady gasping in mild amazement paired with the roar… I can’t front, that was pretty funny.

[@daelen.cclark]

“You like my PUrPLE!!” That’s the funniest line I’ve heard on here.

[@kayezilla5096]

A commercial came on in the middle of that shirt spoken interlude, and I have never felt more relieved that my youtube has ads.

[@iam9991000]

Honestly it sounds like an ad.

[@kimjellen4508]

Lol

[@josephschultz3301]

Agreed, Pass. Agreed. Jessica sounds like a serial killer in that interlude. Shit's wild.

[@labbaby189]

This is Kendrick Lamar levels of timing right here. You were waiting on this day your whole life, weren't you?

[@johnned2114]

No

[@starryeyes999]

TODD FUCK EM' UP!

[@michellehell251]

You’d think he would be trying to distance himself from his role of Boo-Boo in the 2010 film Yogi Bear, but he kinda leaned more into it over time 🤔

[@patrickmack9462]

That was a real thing that happened?

[@rocknroll909]

Oh my god that was deep in the memory archive

[@christopherwall2121]

​@@patrickmack9462 Yes, and apparently he did a _pitch-perfect_ impression of Daws Butler's Boo-Boo

[@rosemulet]

But Todd, have you considered that this video is gonna ruin the tour?

[@howdypardner6278]

it's gonna ruin the world tour :(

[@babymeatball]

What tour?

[@jaclynfairhead5848]

What tour?

[@idimation5579]

@@jaclynfairhead5848THE WORLD TOUR!!

[@SmokeyChipOatley]

@@jaclynfairhead5848 😐 The 🙁🙂‍↕️😔 *world* tour Cop: 🍼👶

[@rockytakeout]

I swear that Todd has like a ton of Trainwreakords episodes ready to go, and then just waits patiently for one of the subjects to get into some kinda controversy

[@NEEDbacon]

Or dies, either or.

[@stephaniewozny3852]

In that case, I hope Xtina gets into some sort of faux paus. (Todd even mentioned in his "Moves Like Jagger" vid he wished he could talk more about "Christina's continued spiral into irrelevancy". Now he can!)

[@Ryan07_20]

I think he was already planning to do a MOTW trainwreckord until JT dropped a follow up album. It’s just that right after he did, he suddenly gets arrested. No one could have predicted that

[@ECKohns]

@@stephaniewozny3852 The most recent thing with her is that the movie she starred in with Cher, Burlesque, is being turned into a stage show.

[@drygnfyre]

I'm still holding out hope for "Results May Vary," the Limp Bizkit album that might have very well killed off nu-metal.

[@Ne0nRhythmoX]

14:08 Justin using a Walking Dead reference in 2018 should have been the first sign of him being irrelevant.

[@sammyauroraloves]

Here's a funny thought: What if, instead of banking on his Memphis roots for country cred, he'd instead drawn from the classic Stax Records soul/blues/rockabilly that Memphis is *actually* famous for? Not only would it have gotten him more critical respect but I think it would've fit the R&B sound he was already doing way better, and from interviews it's clearly the Memphis music he's actually passionate about. Him drawing from Elvis and Otis Redding would've made way more sense (not to mention made a smoother transition from his Rat Pack era) than trying to be all rural and woodsy.

[@VinchVolt]

Honestly it probably would've improved his attempts at political commentary too given that a lot of soul classics were deeply political (Sam & Dave's "Soul Man", for instance, was inspired by news reports about the 1967 Detroit riot, to say nothing about tracks like Aretha Franklin's cover of Otis Redding's "Respect" or Sam Cooke's "A Change Is Gonna Come").

[@sammyauroraloves]

@@VinchVolt True, and on the flip side of he'd decided (as he probably should've) to not engage with all that, he could also have leaned into the smoother side of Memphis soul, gracefully transitioned into an adult contemporary legacy artist, and spent the rest of his career showing up at the Grammys to collect awards and jam with Stevie Wonder and Dolly Parton. I honestly think following Bruno Mars's career path might've been his best bet.

[@Thedjbj2]

Also I saw another commentor here say that "Tennessee Whiskey", the song that led to his pivot to country music, is basically a 60s-style soul ballad dressed up in "country" clothing. So that is more evidence that he could've successfully pivoted to a retro soul sound instead.

[@daelen.cclark]

That would’ve made a lot more sense, and it could’ve been a great introduction to younger generations.

[@kissedbythevoid]

I think we only let Justin say he bought sexy back because that timbaland beat was infectious

[@digamejh]

It was? I found it repetitive (especially over the course of the whole song).

[@hambor12]

@@digamejhit was a Different Time. A time where a song like Pop Champagne, a song with no instrumentals and autotune so egregious that T-Pain cited it as an example of bad use of autotune, made it to #98 on the top singles of the year

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Timbaland and The Neptunes practically carried Justin...and he knows this.

[@rdrrr]

@@hambor12 The era of ringtone rap. It's nice to remember that the pop charts haven't gotten dumber, the dumb stuff is just a different variety of dumb.

[@heelstevenmaggle5615]

That was the worst part of the song.

[@daelen.cclark]

A child actor in a Justin Timberlake song telling us to “wake up” feels so disingenuous and annoying it makes me grind my teeth. I hope that kid has been compensated and happily gotten past this.

[@JeonardShadby505]

And a Black girl to boot! From an artist who's made much of his money co-opting Black culture!

[@grantus_pax]

my immediate thought was "somebody watched Fury Road"

[@z.r.r4593]

@@JeonardShadby505the irony in your comment if you watched the video. But yeah.

[@daelen.cclark]

@@grantus_pax It’s less that, and more “We have Fury Road at home”.

[@BlueKunai]

Fittingly enough while JTs arrest was happening I was thinking to myself "Boy, that's gonna be unavoidable if that Man in the Woods video is in the works." Didn't know it'd be quite that soon but here we are!

[@judgesaturn507]

He said on Patreon that his next video is 'one of his most requested' so I thought it had to be this

[@kylenielsen5083]

I rewatched the filthy review when I heard the news. The release of this video made me want to shit my pants

[@bigbearkat2010]

Right I figured this video was liable to come soonish but I figured his arrest would at least fast track it

[@annieboookhall]

Storytime: when I was a wee child, I lived in southern Louisiana. After Katrina, it was cheap for production companies to work there, so the movie industry in the area really starting kicking into high gear. I lived in a silly little nowhere town next to a slightly larger city. My silly little town became a shooting location, with some vacant storefronts converted to look like a roadside motel. It was said to be an indie flick about a father-son relationship, the son being played by none other than Justin Timberlake. I never saw him, but since this was one of the earliest Louisiana movie projects, people were naturally curious. However, word soon got around that, while dining at a local Mexican joint, JT went beyond the "give me normal human space" quota. Based on hearsay, he asked for even the wait staff to stay far away from him - basically a full-on "keep the commoners away". No body was too fond of him afterwards

[@4ofdubs]

Clarify this.

[@annieboookhall]

@@4ofdubs Which part, exactly? Since I was a kid, I can only give so much, but I'll do my best

[@rosemulet]

It's incredible how Todd managed to release this at the BEST possible time, with his DUI and "This is gonna ruin the tour!" Comments.

[@timmccarthy9917]

Him at the intro pretending like he wasn't overjoyed

[@ruminationstation4200]

​@@timmccarthy9917I don't know that he is. He really did want Justin to pull through.

[@Plunkcown]

@@timmccarthy9917 If you really think Todd is one of the people who was "hoping for Justins downfall" and think he's "pretending to not like it"... idk, either you're new here or you don't have good memory about Todd's past statements. he wasn't happy about the kendrick drake beef either, he's not happy now

[@phlog_dog7336]

"...future hard Jeopardy question Jessica Biel" Todd just gets better and better at writing

[@RyanStorey1231]

Oh, yeah, Jessica Biel! The one from The Illusionist! Or The Prestige? Whichever one she was in. I think she was also in a very important gay rights movie called "I Now Pronounce You, Chuck and Larry".

[@sovietcanuckistanian]

That one's a quote from Bojack Horseman though

[@heymistercarter.]

@@RyanStorey1231 Biel with it! And what's wild is, apparently Biel herself told the creators to really play up how mean she was at that time.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

@@heymistercarter.It's funny she was on the weird Christian family show as start.

[@JonathanLedbetter]

19:13 "[Justin] explained the delay... he doesn't like touring." Kinda puts his DWI in a new light. Listen all y'all, it's a (self) sabotage.

[@tracyveronika]

Very possible! 😮😮

[@redfox-rl8ig]

Stop being stupid, no one cares about Justin Timberlake 🤣 NO ONE is trying to sabotage that crackhead

[@magical-soap5359]

​@@redfox-rl8igI think the implication is he's doing self sabotage?

[@warlordofbritannia]

Foreshadowing is a literary techni-

[@k-discotheque3630]

every single clip of the tour this week i've seen has definite drinking to get through it energy so this theory makes sense

[@Anyontm]

I think Man of the Woods is the result of a crisis of authenticity moreso than masculinity. If it were just about masculinity, he probably would have doubled down on the whole Rat Pack thing from 20/20 Experience and maybe thrown a few Frank Sinatra covers in there. But by 2018 JT had spent the last 20 years of his career, from NSYNC to 20/20Ex, making some of the slickest and most polished capital-P Pop music in the business. A lot of it was really good, even great, but it was still pop music at its core. I obviously don't know the guy personally but if I had to guess I'd say that somewhere along the writing process he began to question whether the music he was making reflected who he was as a person, and picked up on the idea that pop music is inherently inauthentic. It was probably a confluence of multiple influences: becoming a father, his friendship with Chris Stapleton, being a glorified mascot for a cartoon about childrens' toys; but that's what I imagine his thought process was. Ironically, MotW proved the opposite: JT is a pop artist at his core. It's what he knows, what he's good at, it's who he is. This is why he couldn't fully commit to the bit and pull a Folklore/Evermore, and why it ended up coming across as cheap lumberjack cosplay instead of what he was aiming for: real authenticity.

[@baileyanderson6824]

I watched this while lounging in my boyfriends shirt and Biel’s monologue made me want to change

[@josephschultz3301]

"Sweetie, no, it's not you. Honestly, it's not me either. It's Jessica Biel's fault. If you'd heard what I just heard, you wouldn't want to wear your shirt either."

[@Ironman1o1]

No joke! If I saw a partner of mine wearing my shirt after listening to that, I'd def ask them to change. Some asshole just made it weird.

[@yukitty_writes]

i garauntee you that if justin timberlake had released "montana" as the lead single followed by "breeze off the pond" as the second single, he wouldn't have fallen off AS hard because at least the songs that people could've heard in passing would've been the good ones omg how do you fumble sooooo hard. and DEFINITELY put man of the woods as the VERY. LAST. SONG. on the album.

[@doylerudolph7965]

Say Something was the only good single choice. I'm not a big country fan, but I play in a band that plays quite a few country venues, and when I heard that between sets, I loved it. Granted, I like Stapleton quite a bit (and Hardy and Brantley Gilbert, essentially the rock guys who are doing country) so it makes sense that I'd like it, but it was one of the best new popular songs out of the country scene at the time.

[@lordscrewtape2897]

For the record us " country folk" don't eat bugs... We eat fried chicken like normal people...🙄

[@drpibisback7680]

If he served some fried chicken up at that press event, that would have gotten people thinking positively about this album. Everybody loves fried chicken.

[@johnindigo5477]

Goat, blackened catfish, rabbit, possum, rattlesnake, alligator, nilgai. Don't knock Mexican crickets.

[@chesspiece4257]

we could’ve had deer tacos

[@SamAronow]

@@chesspiece4257 For some reason I read this in Homer Simpson's voice.

[@abosier]

Fried chicken, taters 'n gravy, biscuits, corn on the cob. Finish it off with a mile high apple pie and a cup of coffee and you got yerself there a good dinner after a long day of hard work.

[@fara40000]

I think the Trolls movies have done more to preserve Justin's dignity than his actual music career, if only because of the themes of the movies reflect real life in an honest and fun way, and he still gets to sing good songs. Big sad

[@peepnox7747]

I’m stopping EVERYTHING to watch this

[@digamejh]

"Stop!" -Justin Timberlake

[@Karmy.]

Same

[@no1takethisname]

Same

[@Digitron0898]

Same, it's todd in shadows of course I have always time for him

[@RetroHoodie25]

Same😂

[@BestPunkyEver]

Justin Timberlake’s later music sounds, to me, like an even weirder version of that very odd Adult Contemporary you hear on satellite at the dentist’s office.

[@ChrisTopher-id4mz]

Weirdly specific burn.

[@VicViper]

My 2 cents on the Justin/Janet incident and people calling "karma" is this: Justin getting "karmaed" does nothing for Janet. She hasn't regained what she lost. Nothing can possibly make up for the years of shame and lost respect. She hasn't been publicly reinstated to my knowledge, at least not to the level of being relevant to popular culture like she used to be. There's even a possibility that just like Michael Jackson being a punchline till death, she won't be widely rediscovered and recognised for her talent and for who she is until post-mortem. It's a pitiful consolation prize when society was the biggest problem, not Justin. And this goes for most victim/unfair treatment situation. I don't know anything about the thing with Britney, but I'm pretty sure that is not helping her either. Putting Justin through the same things that these 2 women were put through does not repair any damage dealt to them, it just causes more damage to another person, who might or might not even have been a major factor in Janet's case.

[@courtneythompson6179]

Can’t remember how old he was with Janet but at least with Britney I always found it weird people judge him for a relationship he had when he was 19

[@jamesatkinsonja]

It feels like people think using JT as an easy scapegoat 'fixes it' when it really doesn't as two wrongs don't make a right. As you say, I doubt Janet or Britney are benefiting form 20+ year drama being rehashed now and it doesn't 'undo' the damage they took at the time.

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

That’s what happens when you treat vengeance and justice as synonymous, I suppose…

[@magicalmysteryperson]

Remember when the thumbnail said "Bringing Country?! Back"? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[@IABITVpresents]

Yeah, Todd just had to cash in on the meme...

[@JoshuaFagan]

It's kind of amazing that Man of the Woods and Witness came out in the same year. 2017 was just a graveyard for pop music careers.

[@VinchVolt]

Man of the Woods was 2018.

[@starryeyes999]

@@VinchVolt same difference tbh 2017-2018 are all a messed up blur

[@flameofphoenix5998]

the surprising part is that JT only wrote the second worst lyric featuring the word "supplies" Yummy, man, never forget Yummy

[@BurningOutBass]

Todd saw that arrest headline and JUMPED at that upload button

[@TheoRae8289]

Hit it like he wanted its lunch money

[@mingbotlarue5694]

"Down your leg, say, where's the faucet?" ..........WHAT??

[@starryeyes999]

hes talking abt gooch juice

[@ackee39]

its even funnier with the kids-song aesthetic of the song behind it. its like if someone covered wheels on the bus to be about 9/11

[@jesterlaureate]

Supplies sounds like a song from Popstar: Never Stop Stopping.

[@daigneauray7087]

I am surprised Todd didn’t bring that up.

[@Betta66]

Doesn’t he have a cameo in that movie?

[@jesterlaureate]

@@Betta66 Yea he plays a chef and has a brief bit in the final song.

[@ltbq]

Justin even sounds like Conner4Real. At the point I am convinced TLI based his mannerisms on Justin.

[@doylerudolph7965]

@@ltbq Considering that they're GOOD friends with Justin (see how many times they collaborated on SNL) I would say that's extremely likely.