What happens if you supersize a dagger?

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@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Well it appears that the Swirk is an unexpected hit - shall I introduce it as a Tod Cutler sword?. Thoughts?
@rodrigoferreira3176
@rodrigoferreira3176 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Messihippi
@Messihippi Жыл бұрын
that ain’t a swirk - it’s a swagger!
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn Жыл бұрын
yes yes yes
@Ratigun
@Ratigun Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@AggelosKyriou
@AggelosKyriou Жыл бұрын
@@Messihippi Swagger it is!
@EliotChildress
@EliotChildress Жыл бұрын
Wait… so you just made that beautiful sword JUST to be a talking point about grip size? You are crazy and I respect that 😂
@andyedwards9222
@andyedwards9222 Жыл бұрын
😂
@boartank
@boartank Жыл бұрын
more like historical accuracy vs functionality vs customer specifications vs I MADE A SWIRK FOR THE HECK OF IT AND IT IS AWESOMMMME
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Yes I did and it was a fun project and one that has been on my mind for years, but I can always sell it eventually; so not so crazy
@paulsalb1686
@paulsalb1686 Жыл бұрын
I would buy one for sure
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
you can say he wanted to win a grip measuring contest
@_MrPixel_
@_MrPixel_ Жыл бұрын
I swear half of my weapons from DND campaigns are just going be items Tod has made
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo Жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of DnD when I saw that folding spear he made. Seems very fitting for an adventurer, you can carry it in a back scabbard and just unfold it when you need a weapon with reach.
@bentrieschmann
@bentrieschmann Жыл бұрын
Lol
@clovergroom4104
@clovergroom4104 Жыл бұрын
This!
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 Жыл бұрын
Odd, over... half my weapons are items I needed and then I found Tod because I wanted to know if someone made them. We are total opposites you and I.
@jm9371
@jm9371 Жыл бұрын
I see a dagger that does 1D8 base damage. I don't think the rules would allow for a dual wield.
@josephfrederic3456
@josephfrederic3456 Жыл бұрын
The way you analyze and consider historical pieces to inform your beautiful designs is such an inspiring process. Reimagining the aesthetics of the past in steel. So cool.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@hughgrection3052
@hughgrection3052 Жыл бұрын
​@@tods_workshopYeah I agree. I have something that is basically exactly like what's spoke of in this video as far as handle and blade size. It has the experts all puzzled so far tho. I think it's a WW1 trench spike knife of some sort. It's very old. But massive at well over 18 inches and about 2lbs. It has a square full tapered heavy blade, with 4 fullers, a heavy but short bronze handle. It can be used as a club too as it's so darn heavy. I put a video of it on my channel. If you have a moment I think you'll find it as wild as the others I've asked about it too. I'd love to hear you tell me what it is and maybe even make a version to sell. It's so unique I think folks would by tons of them. All who see it so they want it anyways lol. I bought it as it was the most sinister design I've ever seen before. Anyways let me know what ya think if ya can please. Thanks
@Kaliayep
@Kaliayep Жыл бұрын
This supersized dirk is one of the best piece I've seen in your forge/workshop - I am enamoured with its style
@wisconsinkraut3445
@wisconsinkraut3445 Жыл бұрын
I know I am now extremely tempted to custom order on 😅
@Kaliayep
@Kaliayep Жыл бұрын
Same here - but the revenue is not following the heart sadly@@wisconsinkraut3445
@Sk0lzky
@Sk0lzky Жыл бұрын
​@@wisconsinkraut3445If I had spare money lying around I'd be right behind you, it's just so sexy >
@tomturbuckle0076
@tomturbuckle0076 Жыл бұрын
Great point about hand to height proportion. Another aspect to consider is that anyone who was a farm hand or general tradesman would have large muscular hands.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Good point - hadn't thought of that
@cnm757
@cnm757 Жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshop Probably because it's not a valid observation.
@oliverohnemus5791
@oliverohnemus5791 Жыл бұрын
Their grip strength would have also been greater than most folks today.. could explain the slightly smaller grips, they didn’t need as much purchase area to get the same grip
@ayebraine
@ayebraine Жыл бұрын
@@cnm757 fingers do become slightly beefier and thicker with even moderate regular use, even though fingers do not have any muscle. Hands do very much become wider when flexed due to muscles present in the palm on both sides.
5 ай бұрын
@cnm757 I gained about an inch on my fist width in my mid 20s from doing carpentry for 3 years. I don’t see the point in your comment other than trolling.
@jannerwingfeather
@jannerwingfeather Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Matt Easton try out your Swirk for practicality and how it wields👍😅 (And it looks beautiful!)
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
He likes it
@jannerwingfeather
@jannerwingfeather Жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshop That is a good sign😁👍
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 3 күн бұрын
He probably would've preferred it be a bollock dagger
@merlinbooper6756
@merlinbooper6756 Жыл бұрын
I have a Tod's Blolock Dagger and the Bone 'coffin' handled Bowie (to name a few things I have). A family member said the handles are too small! So I showed them how to actually grip the bollocks, this is soooo Matt Easton, then I showed them how to use the 'coffin top' on the Bowie (where you grip with the little finger closed over the top or the thumb curled over the top. There was a look of confusion mixed with understanding between how it 'looks nice' and how it should be used. I went on to explain how a messer works. They only popped in for a cupper. Back in the late 1980s we had huge issues finding the correct items, so we ended up making our own, and the likes of Bodger, John Buttifint and myself (I am in incognito here) came into the world of historic reproductions. It is so lovely to see Tod et al taking up this and moving it on to great things like this; I am so chuffed with our (historic reproduction) grandchildren!
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Blimey it was Bodger, Buttifint and the third guy (you?) whose name is on the tip of my tongue but I can't place it and those three were my absolute inspiration. Damn I am annoyed, because it is usually John Buttifints' name I forget
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Will Hutt! But actually I am 'child' not grandchild. I knew Bodger quite well, but the other guys had left the field just before I arrived, but also as a 55 year old, I had to learn so much from scratch, but now with the internet and of course YT there are so many 'grandchildren' of you three and I look around at the sheer quality of work by relative youngsters and am amazed.
@theomelchior2739
@theomelchior2739 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, I do a lot of research into Irish weaponry and read somewhere that their Skean daggers could have blades up to 21 inches, so seeing a "swirk" is kinda like seeing an example of what I read about
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Dirks can get up to 17"
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp Жыл бұрын
I would like to see how well the Swirk handles. Maybe have Matt test it on the next weird weapons video? And (in my opinion) it looks fantastic, would consider buying if i was in the market for another straight single edge sword.
@LivingManuscript
@LivingManuscript Жыл бұрын
Capwell made a point about his English armor that is similar to this and stuck with me: The closer they made things to the originals, the less troubleshooting they had to do. I found this to be quite true and quote it every time I'm helping someone with a kit!
@donovanmccain
@donovanmccain Жыл бұрын
Wonderful creation. Also, it's strange how much to my eyes at least it evokes an almost ancient Celtic aesthetic as an iron age longsword
@Todesnuss
@Todesnuss 8 ай бұрын
Something like that. My mind went to a Roman Spatha.
@gbosman5874
@gbosman5874 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the size of balls on that if it would have been aan bollock dagger.
@charlottewalnut3118
@charlottewalnut3118 6 ай бұрын
Ironlily has one of those
@daaaah_whoosh
@daaaah_whoosh Жыл бұрын
I think messers are a neat example of this, the same basic concept goes from a working knife, to a hunting or self-defense shortsword, up to a longsword or even a greatsword. They've all got a nagel and a riveted wooden grip and one edge, but the ratios change as the length and use changes. But also, on a completely unrelated note, I wonder if the Swirk isn't a decent example for what Sting would have looked like, a giant's knife or a hobbit's sword.
@a_bar_of_soap
@a_bar_of_soap Жыл бұрын
The "Swirk" makes me think of the old seax. Feels like a very similar concept!
@hobbes1887
@hobbes1887 Жыл бұрын
It is exacts a seax.
@fredrikakesson747
@fredrikakesson747 10 ай бұрын
This was my first thought as well. :)
@WikiSnapper
@WikiSnapper Жыл бұрын
Your Swirk might visually be my favorite sword now. It is like a giant butter knife!
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
It will cut more than butter!
@lokelaufeyson9931
@lokelaufeyson9931 Жыл бұрын
you need a big sandwich to use that butter knife :) Can be used to help guests at your BBQ when they want their meat cut as well..
@lucianjaeger4893
@lucianjaeger4893 6 ай бұрын
"I shall spread yee across the field like the butter on my toast sir!"
@hjorturerlend
@hjorturerlend Жыл бұрын
Functionally very similar to some iron age Celtic swords funnily enough, the hilt especially. Would make for a cool set.
@2Cats_ina_Trenchcoat
@2Cats_ina_Trenchcoat Жыл бұрын
I feel you've missed the opportunity to make a two handed one and call it a Twerk. Great content as always.
@badideagenerator2315
@badideagenerator2315 Жыл бұрын
a swerk with a 2 metre long blade called a zwerk
@itsgorani9133
@itsgorani9133 Жыл бұрын
I was taking a look at my TodCuttler daggers and came to the following observations: With TC15 (twisted grip rondel), I could have the handle about 1 cm shorter easily, without wearing gloves. Putting on sturdy leather gloves, the handle space is needed and it locks in your hand well. Looks that Tod got that one close to historical. My ColdSteel training rondel, which has about the same length as Tod's dagger, has a handle that leaves me with almost 2 cm space between the rondels, even with gloves on. Tod's studded bollock dagger TC31seems to fall more into "make it for the taste of the modern buyer". Even with a handshake grip type of gripping, putting the thumb "between the balls" for aligning the blade (that sounds very kinky, lol), there is still a bit of hilt left on the bottom. Overall the grip could be shorter. (it gets more absurd with a blunt sword I own, which as a single handed arming sword has a grip that easily could accommodate two hands)
@calculusmaximus5078
@calculusmaximus5078 Жыл бұрын
I think you forget that the originals were made by craftsmen with the same fundamental problem, they needed to sell their wares. Functionality is part of a customer's consideration, and if back in the day it was the larger part of it functional elements would have been more prominent. If you could pull one of those craftsmen out of time, I don't think they'd give you grief for changing things to suit the current market.
@danielflynn9141
@danielflynn9141 Жыл бұрын
That's one hell of an object to make JUST for demonstration purposes. I really admire your commitment. Any chance someone like Matt can get their hands on that swirk just to test it? I'd love to find out how effective it is as a sword.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
I will have a word
@jesuizanmich
@jesuizanmich Жыл бұрын
this is so cool and amusing. Now I kinda want to see a whole series of medieval knives scaled-up to sword length.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn Жыл бұрын
Same. "Bollocksword" would be glorious.
@notstupid5322
@notstupid5322 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of sword daggers, you should make a video on the actual dagger shaped swords that were used in the 14th and 15th century, the comically large basilards and roundels i see in art have always interested me, and I know they existed because there's a surviving basilard sword and these depictions in art are detailed enough that they dont give room for it to be written off as a mistake
@notstupid5322
@notstupid5322 Жыл бұрын
Also I apologize since I cant find the museum links since the ones I bookmarked in the past are dead now, but i know that there was a baselard dagger with a 65cm blade
@justmutantjed
@justmutantjed Жыл бұрын
TBH, if I had the kind of money such a piece would command, I'd be all-in on a "swirk."
@Ship-security
@Ship-security Жыл бұрын
Please make a series of Lord of the Rings swords in your own interpretation. That dirksword makes me want a Tod version of King Theoden’s sword.
@thepagan5432
@thepagan5432 Жыл бұрын
I've seen a few dirks and although they were all dirks the handle length did vary. One them had a 14" blade and a 6" handle, biggest blade I have seen was 20" with a handle of 4". This led me to believe that in reality, the original dirk makers made their weapons to the customers requirements or what was seen as best fit. It is a modern construct that tries to standardise everything into set patterns, but they were not a standard item when being individually made. I would love to see you walk / run with your oversized dirk in your sock 😂😂
@JinKee
@JinKee Жыл бұрын
3:25 did people just grow bigger hands now that they have better food?
@theghosthero6173
@theghosthero6173 Жыл бұрын
This actually reminds me of the "estoque de Boabdil", a sword that belonged to the last Sultan of Al Andalus. It's almost just a scalled up ear dagger. The concept is quite réminiscent of this video.
@freestatefellow
@freestatefellow Жыл бұрын
I mean, scaling up knives to usable sword proportions actually could make for really cool fantasy swords.
@MrBottlecapBill
@MrBottlecapBill Жыл бұрын
Aren't all swords just scaled up knives or daggers?
@pendarischneider
@pendarischneider Жыл бұрын
Okay I'll bite.@@MrBottlecapBill makes me want to watch the video again since I finished with the idea that scaling up was complicated and you can't just scale stuff up. Basically, when you double the blade length, you cannot double the hilt, pommel, and guard dimensions. So, no! swords are not just scaled up knives or daggers. Todd explains this at length in a video I saw recently.
@astrotrek3534
@astrotrek3534 Жыл бұрын
Now all I can imagine is US Cavalry in the civil war with saber sized bowie knives
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 Жыл бұрын
You could put a little lead in the sheath to keep it balanced.
@TjinDeDjen
@TjinDeDjen Жыл бұрын
If you run into the problem with balance (dagger toppling over) when sheathed, instead of trying to change the dimensions of parts of the dagger, wouldn't it be easier to just give the sheath a counter weight at the tip?
@leobuana7430
@leobuana7430 Жыл бұрын
The only question is if the people of the era are willing to invest in that
@Locahaskatexu
@Locahaskatexu Жыл бұрын
The whole thing actually reminds me of an Iron age Celtic style sword actually. Was that intentional, or just a happy coincidence? Either way it looks quite neat! :)
@svesnimajmun2731
@svesnimajmun2731 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a celtic equivalent to germanc langseax. I find it odd that there are no mentions of something like that, at least I didn't
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 Жыл бұрын
I had exact same thoughts. It looks like mishmash of Roman, Celtic and Nordic/Germanic late antiquity or early medieval sword, it really messes with your brain. Fantastic piece of work.
@crozraven
@crozraven Жыл бұрын
This sword should really be featured in Highlander Remake!
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
I am on for that
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 Жыл бұрын
Great lesson on the proportions and requirements of knives, dirks and swords in addition to the need to make them look "right and beautiful"
@adamkilroe9840
@adamkilroe9840 Жыл бұрын
Looking at it and the responses (and my own gut reaction), if you add this to your catalogue, it's going to sell so so well. It's bloody gorgeous❤❤❤
@AdlerMow
@AdlerMow Жыл бұрын
Tod, a simple solution is to put a brass tip to the end of the scabbard to make it bottom heavy, so it stays upright.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
I do, but it depends how unbalanced it is. I have in fact been selecting chapes and testing balance on some shorter blades today
@skeleleleton
@skeleleleton Жыл бұрын
I love the authenticity of your replications
@martykitson3442
@martykitson3442 Жыл бұрын
That is in fact a knife a fine one too, very nice explanation, I hope to someday have a well made dirk, and a formal kilt, we'll see if that happens
@robertmccann5838
@robertmccann5838 Жыл бұрын
Never wanted a "fantasy" sword so much...
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo Жыл бұрын
That giant dirk is giving me some bronze age/iron age vibes.
@Ratigun
@Ratigun Жыл бұрын
I have one of the quillon daggers and a ballock dagger and they are both fantastic.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@hjorhrafn
@hjorhrafn Жыл бұрын
This is such a great way to tie so many deep ideas together. Philosophy, usability, and aesthetics, neatly forged into one beautiful object. Thanks for the thought-provoking video.
@toddablett4493
@toddablett4493 Жыл бұрын
It looks surprizing like a Viking style sword. Its almost like there is a form/function thing going on. What a marvelous looking piece.
@Lurklen
@Lurklen Жыл бұрын
The "Double-Dirk" you're describing sounds like a knife for giants. Beautiful work with the Swirk. I love seeing your historical work, and the way you adjust it for a modern market, but I also love seeing something new in sword design. Especially when that new thing is built on the old foundations, and has a fidelity to the principals of design they engender. Always cool to see a new contribution to the landscape. Thanks for sharing.
@matthewvelo
@matthewvelo Жыл бұрын
I wonder how large a viking-era sword would be if you scaled it up to be a 'desirable' modern hilt size. Great video, Tod.
@AeronHale
@AeronHale Жыл бұрын
Well regardless of the off proportions and historical inaccuracies of it the sword is a gorgeous work of art and I love the design. Excellent work and I totally want one!
@bretalvarez3097
@bretalvarez3097 Жыл бұрын
That swirk looks to me like a late bronze age or early iron age sword built with an 18th century aesthetic. Very cool and I can imagine it being wielded by the main character in a fantasy movie or game.
@jeremiahkindel9301
@jeremiahkindel9301 Жыл бұрын
That " Swirk" is soooo cool! I wish i had the funds to buy it.
@CDKohmy
@CDKohmy Жыл бұрын
I heard Scottish dirks got up to 20 inches in blade length. Yours seems more akin to some Irish skeans.
@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop Жыл бұрын
So when you making a giant sword size Bollock Dagger? Gotta win the measuring contest XD. I'll name it Betty, because Sword + Bollock = Swollok. And what else could a Swollock be called other than Betty? Looking forward to seeing some Betty Swollocks on the channel XP.
@hereunderduress
@hereunderduress 3 ай бұрын
Hilarious, I just bought one of your dirks the other day. I watch your channel from time to time, but for whatever reason, I had no idea I could buy from you. So by total accident, I purchased one of your dirks and just now realized it. I'm pretty excited about it
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 Жыл бұрын
Tod, I bought one of your daggers (had you sign the blade if you remember that one) , and though the quality of both the weapon and the sheathe were exceptional, I feel that, for practical use, a counterweight in the pommel area would've been better, to put the center of mass within the grip, thus facilitating changing grip. In regards to having a dagger not hang properly at when in scabbard because of the balance, I'd just add weight to the scabbard. By the way, where does your leather work come from? If you do your own, can you show us how the scabbards are made?
@ArniesTech
@ArniesTech Жыл бұрын
I love how people assume that medieval folks were like Ewoks or Hobbits 😂😂😂 Bruh, it's only a couple hundred years ago 😅 Thanks once again for a very informative and creative Chat, Todd 🙏💪
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 Жыл бұрын
Poorer diet back in the day with more carbohydrates and less fats and protein. Japan had a similar generational change starting in the 1960's when better diet from childhood made the average height shoot up. Between WW 2 and today the average Japanese height has gone up 10 cm (about 4 inches).
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
​​@@silverjohn6037 another thing is less Fish and more meat like beef in diet
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
I think it's probably because people are very bad at telling the difference in height between humans, someone half your size normally means someone who's height comes up to below your chin, even though that's about 6% difference. Even the tallest person ever, you would have to have dwarfism to be half his height and quite a number of people with dwarfism would be taller than half his height. As he was 8ft 11 and people with dwarfism can be up to 4ft 10.
@King.Leonidas
@King.Leonidas Жыл бұрын
​@@silverjohn6037Yeah but people owning a lot of swords wouldn't. the medieval knights where probably around our height so back in those times one could perhaps spot a noble by height alone
@NevisYsbryd
@NevisYsbryd Жыл бұрын
​@@silverjohn6037Evidence indicates that the European Late Middle Ages diet had a higher proportion of animal protein than most modern diets, and there was lots of beans and legumes from the High Middle Ages onwards. While higher rates of carbohydrates and less protein has certainly occurred in Europe (eg the West Anatolian Neolithic farmers), this largely does not include the Middle Ages.
@johannestetzelivonrosador7317
@johannestetzelivonrosador7317 Жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to call it a swagger
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
I think you will find it is in fact a Swirk, part of the sub categories of Swaggers along with Wollock daggers, Wear daggers, Swagen, Swondles etc Although to be fair some rondels are right up there anyway You are right though - I missed that one
@MrPlainsflyer
@MrPlainsflyer Жыл бұрын
The Todd saga "A fistful of daggers" "A few Rondels more" "Big Swirk on his hip" etc
@abdallah9647
@abdallah9647 Жыл бұрын
You are the best Tod. What a beautiful subject and what a awesome way to illustrate your point.
@corwinhyatt519
@corwinhyatt519 Жыл бұрын
I cannot help drooling over the lovely falcion you made as the example piece for this vid. Wow!
@eldandraken4850
@eldandraken4850 Жыл бұрын
hello Tod, i would like to se a film about you making that monster. it would be quite lovely to see you in your element and the whole (or most?) of the process
@proto-badger1075
@proto-badger1075 Жыл бұрын
Your SwirkS looks like something you would find at the Rohirrim Sir thank you for the posting utterly a great one
@INTERNERT
@INTERNERT Жыл бұрын
Tod please stop making me want things I never knew I needed again and again
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 Жыл бұрын
Swirk looks like amalgam of several late antiquity and early medieval swords. I love it.
@Chaos_God_of_Fate
@Chaos_God_of_Fate Жыл бұрын
I love the Blade design. For me, extend the Hilt to a hand and a half so you could use 2 hands if you want, and modify it to add at least some bit of cross-guard protection. That'd probably be my dream sword. That blade though, perfect looking- no idea how useful it is but I love it anyway!
@COLDMKULTRA
@COLDMKULTRA Жыл бұрын
Todd ... excellent video, thank you ... but how about making a leaf blade bronze age type sword ... I am sure many, including myself, would buy one !
@lancerandall3556
@lancerandall3556 Жыл бұрын
By far my favorite youtube channel. Tod had completely changed my view of swords and sword like items. Unfortunately it has made 99% of all modern "reproductions" unacceptable to me because id always look at it and know it's wrong. Saving up to get something tod makes
@MrMorgorth
@MrMorgorth Жыл бұрын
At most if you scale things up scale it up to fit the modern era person's hand a bit extra blade length to make it match as well Crossguard/Rondel or whatever else prevents the hand sliding onto the Blade perhaps scale it up further if they are into HEMA for Gauntlets and that is generally all you can do for historical replica pieces or HEMA pieces.
@Bridgercraft
@Bridgercraft Жыл бұрын
As a big fan of the highland dirk I have to say, that Swirk is a thing of absolute beauty! Kinda want to make one myself now!
@Resomius
@Resomius Жыл бұрын
That Swirk is actually a realy nice Sword. I am actually Impressed that it didn´t excist. Also that book you have there seems to be loved through!
@Unbelievableone1987
@Unbelievableone1987 Жыл бұрын
I think another big reason why daggers were the size that they were is that you just cannot effectively reach around with it from a prolonged arm if the blade was longer. What I mean is that the proportion of blade length to arm length sets the limit to what angles you can hit in close combat.
@graemegourley7616
@graemegourley7616 Жыл бұрын
That swirk is maybe one of the coolest things I've seen! Even for my relatively large hands that guilt like a bit large actually. But man oh man I want a tod cutler version!
@Michael-jx9bh
@Michael-jx9bh Жыл бұрын
It's a variation of the cube/square thing: Doubling the dimensions of a 2D object increase the area by 4 and for a 3D object increases the volume (& weight) by 8. That's why size increase doesn't play nice with balance and structural integrity. Should be obvious I know, but many people seem oblivious to it.
@thedabblingwarlock
@thedabblingwarlock Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting discussion and I thank you for starting it. I like to draw and I play TTRPGs and write fantasy stuff from time to time. This made me realize that different races, like orcs, elves, and dwarves are all going to have different proportions on their weapons depending on their strength and hand-size relative to the rest of their body. Definitely food for thought.
@Greensleeve11
@Greensleeve11 Жыл бұрын
Great point, and lovely way to make your point. But also... This is a spectacularly cool sword. Tod making fantasy weapons inspired by other, related historical weapons is a cool niche and I'm sure you can sell it.
@TheSpanishInquisition87
@TheSpanishInquisition87 Жыл бұрын
A bollock dagger of that size would be awesome.
@GallowglassAxe
@GallowglassAxe Жыл бұрын
I understand the point of the video is that you can't take a preexisting replica and just upscale/modify to your prefer proportions without making significant alterations to it. As for the making big dirks I don't know about the Scottish but the Irish did have sword like scians which they carried around. Looking at Derrick's woodcuts they're shown all over. We have archelogical evidence too of "long knives" in many museums in Ireland. The book "The Skean : The Distinctive Fighting Knife of Gaelic Ireland, 1500-1700" by Robert Gresh has many photos of those scians.
@Halinspark
@Halinspark Жыл бұрын
It was interesting watching you thread the needle between "these measurements are incorrect for period reproductions" and not saying "My customers and their more modern sensibilities are wrong". That does beg the question: How much variation was there at the time for personal choices? Anybody who could afford to commission a weapon could also afford asking for an extra inch here, or slightly shorter there, etc. to make it more comfortable for their own use.
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard Жыл бұрын
Tod: "I need to make a point about grip size and proportions." also Tod: "I need to make a giant knife to make that point."
@smokerxluffy
@smokerxluffy Жыл бұрын
Yeah, bought the Cold Steel Italian dagger ages ago and it has the exact same pommel as the longsword (wanted the matching set since the sword is pretty good) and hoo boy is it poorly balanced. Can't even keep it upright on my belt. Ended up literally ripping off the pommel by brute force and that kinda-sorta fixed it haha...
@Trav_Can
@Trav_Can Жыл бұрын
I love the dirk I got from you. Pure bad ass. The dirk sword (swirk) is just awesome.
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice Жыл бұрын
As a scotsman i love a dirk, very practical, great for everything from preparing food to repelling the english
@leon.benedict
@leon.benedict Жыл бұрын
Tod finally did it. Behold, the MESSEST
@user-fl8yv7rz6f
@user-fl8yv7rz6f Жыл бұрын
The giant ceremonial kukri has a handle that is scaled up with the blade and it needs two hands to use it as the grip is so big that it leaves a lot of space between thumb and fingers, even with two hands it is unwieldy. Seeing as the "hand" measurement for horses is almost five hundred years old and my own hand is only a quarter of an inch wider, I think you are spot on with the handle sizes not being that much smaller than todays ones.
@dgmt1
@dgmt1 Жыл бұрын
A difference of 10cm in average height would probably result in average hand width difference of 1-2cm rather than 5-6mm. We can see this in the difference of glove sizes between Asian and European countries where the average height difference is around 10+cm. Gloves sold in Japan are generally 1 size smaller than those sold in the US/Europe which equates to a difference in width of about 1-2cm. That being said, the heights of medieval Europeans were not that much different compared to modern populations. Research conducted on excavated skeletons in 2017 demonstrated that from the 11th and 17th centuries adult British men averaged 172 to 174cm compared to a modern average of 175.9cm. Due to rapid population growth and lack of access to good nutrition, population heights declined in the 18th and 19th centuries before recovering in the 20th century (primarily in the post-WW2 period up until about the 70s/80s). Therefore, it is likely their hand sizes were much the same as ours.
@fridrekr7510
@fridrekr7510 Жыл бұрын
Why do you think a 10 cm height difference would lead to a hand width difference of 1-2 cm? Where I'm from, we usually say that medieval people were around 10 cm shorter (about 180 cm vs. 170 cm for men, and 170 cm vs. 160 for women). That means they were about 5% shorter back then. Assuming height and hand width scale linearly, that would only make their hands about 5 mm narrower at most. And that's not considering that manual labour was more widespread back then, so they might have had comparatively studier/wider hands. I think it's risky to compare modern European vs. Asian sizes, since genetic differences might also affect proportions.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
dgmt1 - I have to disagree with your start point. My hand is around 9cm across, so 2cm would be a reduction of over 20% with a height reduction of 5-7%
@richtheunstable3359
@richtheunstable3359 Жыл бұрын
Is the glove size hand circumference and not width?
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
If you are 6% smaller than average why would your hand be over 20% smaller? Not to mention the biggest hands I've have seen have been on someone who was 5ft 7 and unsurprisingly a piano player.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the glove size be explained by weight as well as height but especially weight, seen as a 6% difference in height should cause around 6% difference not 20% and if we go for other appendages there is no correlation with height at all and if we go for feet actually their is a smaller than height percentage difference on average, meaning if feet and hands had the same ratio, then it would be less than 6%.
@trevorhook5677
@trevorhook5677 10 ай бұрын
Swirk is closer to the original, for sure
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 Жыл бұрын
As a fan of messers, I don't see a single thing wrong with the Swirk. 😉👍 It's _perfect..._
@LateralTwitlerLT
@LateralTwitlerLT Жыл бұрын
A dirk that can both cut down men *_and_* saw down trees. Thanks for the video Tod. It's always a treat to watch you.
@jeffarmstrong1308
@jeffarmstrong1308 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. Thanks for the education in dirks. I've just looked the dirk I bought for myself about six years BT (before Todd). It is wrong in all the ways you mention, and probably for the same reasons. It has a 12" blade with a 6" handle but you can see that the maker has put some thought into it. They have at least given a nod to getting the proportions right by putting a clear division 3" from the pommel end and making the rest of the handle dagger-like (sort of) in form. I can hold it by the 3" part of the handle and have dirk with a 14" 'blade'.
@stephandeister1167
@stephandeister1167 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the grip must be a little bit longer if the hand is amored or if Götz von Berlichingen wants to use it.
@Ichithix
@Ichithix Жыл бұрын
Hand size varies a fair bit from person to person. How much does grip size vary amoung similar historical pieces? I guess what I'm asking was the size of the handle more to do with the user, or the size and type of knife itself.
@tatache5971
@tatache5971 Жыл бұрын
I love short handles. In addition to be quite nice proportionnaly talking, they also have a way to grip them that allow us to have a better feeling of the dagger/sword, and how it was handled.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын
That's what she said!
@tatache5971
@tatache5971 Жыл бұрын
@@AlbertaGeek Context
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd 3 ай бұрын
You do see it sort of happen in East Europe with the Kindjal/Qama but they were mostly daggers & short swords. However I have seen a couple from Persia that did reach arming sword size. They do resize the handles slightly between the dagger versions & the sword types though.
@spoutnik7703
@spoutnik7703 Жыл бұрын
" That's not a KNOIFE mate ! " What a splendid piece, great work.
@hawkknight4223
@hawkknight4223 Жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head. And thank you for your unwillingness. To be another yellow pencil in the box! May God bless you. And thank you for your work!
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
I think it's probably because people are very bad at telling the difference in height between humans, someone half your size normally means someone who's height comes up to below your chin, even though that's about 6% difference. Even the tallest person ever, you would have to have dwarfism to be half his height and quite a number of people with dwarfism would be taller than half his height. As he was 8ft 11 and people with dwarfism can be up to 4ft 10. However even explaining that will not make sense to most people due to how our brains are very bad a judging human height.
@harazhangf5782
@harazhangf5782 Жыл бұрын
That was a really interesting video. And that swirk is really nice.
@PDeRop
@PDeRop Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking us on a trip through your brain. It was entertaining. It was interesting. I almost understood half of it. Time to watch the video again.
@danielglidden9290
@danielglidden9290 Жыл бұрын
Todd I’m surprised to not seeing you wear a watch you seem like the type to appreciate a proper mechanical watch or automatic
@tuerkefechi
@tuerkefechi 5 ай бұрын
Well, the Scian / Skean in Ireland existed and that was quite similar or even related to Scottish dirks. And there are examples of Irish Sceans that had sword/short-sword length, so even no Scottish examples like that existed, it is not completely far from history.
@davidray6962
@davidray6962 Жыл бұрын
Cool. Now do an Italian stiletto. I've had so many people tell me a stiletto is just a shrunk down rapier, but if you scale up a stiletto it won't be a rapier.
@robertusaugustus2003
@robertusaugustus2003 Жыл бұрын
When you first raised the swirk into view I couldn’t stop laughing, the blade was so much longer than I was expecting
@bastisonnenkind
@bastisonnenkind Жыл бұрын
That "Knive" looks like a very nixe sax to me - I like it 😎
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