Tokyo Track Tech Special | GCN Tech Show Ep.189

[@not-a-raccoon]

1:58 I love it when Ollie goes on a rant 🤣🤣🤣

[@vincentolliver6674]

I have it on good authority that Ollie normally speaks like that. Everything else is just his acting voice.

[@not-a-raccoon]

@@vincentolliver6674 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@henriquecassus]

Crocs might not be very aero, but Lachlan Morton's sandals didn't hold him back in the Alt Tour

[@BigBrownMonke]

Carbon sandals

[@davemoss6976]

To beat the base layer ban, you could use carefully applied acid to the riders shoulders to create blisters in the right places to get step improvment

[@samskisamsonof]

or tiny cut with a scalpel could work to the dude from black panther comes to mind

[@totothebunny333]

Or bumpy kinesiology tape for those niggling bicep/deltoid injuries

[@AmaroqStarwind]

Ow.

[@galenkehler]

Shin splints are no joke, I'm just glad the Danish national team were able to heal in time for the final !

[@jamesmcguckin6288]

😂😂😂

[@samarthur1847]

Have the Kirin as the standardised event.

[@deabreu.tattoo]

the beer brand?

[@santiagobenites]

The kirin would work.

[@The1trueDave]

I was going to say I thought Keirin was heavily standardised (Nitto make a lot of the bits - nice to have a captive market!). I think they do this to make as level a playing field as possible, since there's a huge betting industry around it in Japan so they want as few variables as possible apart from the rider!

[@coreygolphenee9633]

With njs bikes which Imo are the prettiest bikes out there

[@DummyUrD]

Alex "The Lube" Paton

[@banday78]

Loving Olie's knowledge of A10 , took my heart , u r the best presenter

[@Ob1sdarkside]

Supernice aeroplane 😂😂 well played!

[@technocynic]

Ollie, Ollie. Water bottle has 4 syllables, bidon only 2. 50% efficiency gain and absolutely free. Not just a marginal gain, it's a better upgrade than latex tubes or deep dish wheels .

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

I've noticed this Olympics that the men's downhill BMX were way more athletic than their X-Games forefathers. Guys were wearing tight kit, and you could see they were all shredded. They looked like rugby players riding kid's bikes.

[@tychoMX]

Planning to show up to the local Thursday's 15 km TT with a "shin injury".

[@julmeissonnier]

Like most things in cycling, ideas are recycled and things re- invented... Shimano Dura-Ace for the track had 10mm pitch chains from 1976 to 1980... So I guess they were available on EBay before Jan 1st...

[@alainbellemare2168]

But youre in the 21 st century where we believe that nothing but the flintstones technology existed before our blessed era , look i just invented a device to stir coffee it s a carbon stick that you insert in your coffee mug and move clock wise

[@hendrikspark4462]

3D-printed?

[@keirfarnum6811]

@@alainbellemare2168 I guess spoons are too primitive now.

[@byjoshuawilliams5072]

That specialized hard rock 'conversion' isn't even the same frame!!

[@rodrigocastro9323]

IT IS NOT HAHA

[@JohnChoiniere]

It's not! But it's the same model, just a different size - I said it in the submission, I failed to take a "before" pic so I found one online

[@techvelo]

The proper name is the A-10 "Warthog"

[@monev44]

Nope. Warthog is just the most common nickname. The official production name is 'Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Republic_A-10_Thunderbolt_II

[@keirfarnum6811]

Blind riders are the best on a tandem bike; they aren’t always trying to look over your shoulder while riding. They seem to have excellent balance for riding. I used to ride with a guy named Jim King (from the Louise Rude Center for the blind) in Alaska on occasion and he loved it because I didn’t hold back and ride so cautiously; like most people who rode with him. We bombed hills off road all the time. It was funny though because he was a huge guy (6’3” or 4”) on the back and I was a tiny 5’6” XC racer on the front.

[@jelleverdijck781]

Thanks for covering BMX 😍

[@amfinc2]

The explosive force of a bunny hop on a bmx bike is a thing to behold. I would recommend George French in Sheffield who owns Gsport BMX. Also Mike "Jeresy" Taylor who rode for the BSD bike brand. Mike rides sport motorcycles and mountain bikes too. I myself am a freestyle BMX rider, for the past 20 years, and was the primary bmx builder for the shops I worked for. I dare you guys to do a tech video on installing and adjusting a cable detangler, or "gyro".

[@mcnelson]

I'm here for Ollie nerding out on airplanes. First the TdF plane, now an A-10!

[@melnpups]

Ollie quietly flipping off the camera while saying “hope you still love us” 🤣 Ollie you are the BEST!!!! 💕💕💕 Great show ! Love you MFs!!!

[@metallusmelandril7380]

I mean the A10 is simply called the BRRRRRRRRT :)

[@jconley420]

Lol the rose guy trying to flex his PNS bottles

[@michaelmurray8793]

KEEP THE A10 ALIVE!!!!! Worlds most badass plane and managed to keep my dad safe during The Gulf War after being shot up many times.

[@cudacularry2720]

We need a new category that let every bike company built their own high end bike with no regulation, an OPEN CLASS.

[@DaaanG73]

I thought the AvV picture was a joke because she celebrated like she won.

[@jxdirsdt1045]

Dude same🤣

[@lfoster7601]

Would the 10mm pitch chain have needed UCI approval? Shimano was flogging them in the mid '70s, so definitely commercially available before Jan 2021...

[@PHHE1]

I think the January rule probably applies to the specific product

[@The1trueDave]

Possibly not but then if there are idiots who will pay £450 for a chain, why not make a bob or two? :-)

[@jespernohr]

I love British humour :) I do find it quiet fun the that Hope bike seems to blatantly stolen, and in the end didn't really make any difference for Team GB.

[@davidlewis3924]

Well, they HAVE won 6 medals (so far) on the track (more than any other nation) so maybe the Hope bike is not so hopeless?

[@jespernohr]

Still think it is more the riders than the bike.

[@sebastianmachadocph]

The bike was even hoping to steal a Danish handle-bar! :o)

[@arcadiushakim3675]

Glad you are doing BMX, and Mountain.

[@Byerly92]

24:50 I guess the crank is aligned with the seat post. As he even cared for the valves I think he would forget the cranks

[@brankoradic2749]

Alex, the bike in the Bike Vault is called Jamis Beatnik, but solid effort 😂 I like Sputnik better

[@Juul096]

On the topic of BMX - Track cycling. Harry Lavreysen, the Dutch Olympic sprint gold medalist, used to do bmx.

[@anonymousrandomface]

The shin tape would probably have been enough to beat Italy in the final 🤷‍♂️

[@AmaroqStarwind]

I bet you could save a few grams by shaving your head.

[@wbhandy]

3d printing simply isn't very good for handlebars. 3d printed materials aren't stronger/lighter than a "traditional" carbon fiber materials. I'm surprised they would use them. If anything, you could 3d print a mold or form to lay up the carbon on.

[@santiagobenites]

Very clever, and you are right.

[@keirfarnum6811]

I wouldn’t trust it. I don’t even trust carbon fiber or aluminum. For XC racing, I switched to titanium bars. Only thing I haven’t broken.

[@greyearlgrey]

@@keirfarnum6811 the bars that snapped were 3d printed titanium

[@firesurfer]

You do know it was 3d printed titanium? 3d printing a form would seem to be counterproductive. Just make a regular form out of wood.

[@jw3638]

Bum lube? Very "cheeky" Ollie 😅

[@FMXeXo]

User: Submits Wattbike to Bike Vault Ollie: "Crank arms aren't level... Nice"

[@julmeissonnier]

I liked Ollie's impersonation of my comment writing. Nice... That's the way it works. You make great content and we write every possible snickery cynical comment...

[@darrylhuculak4996]

Despite his lack of cycling palmares (apologies for pointing it out yet again), I vote Oliver "Everyman" Bridgewood as the most entertaining GCN personality. He kept me smiling throughout the whole episode.

[@gregknipe8772]

great show. good to talk back to the audience at times. ride on!!

[@djkhmor4538]

is that 4 POGACARs in the yellow!!?

[@ltrtg13]

At least on the Wattbike you don't have to worry about lining up the valves and tyre logos. Or faff about with the chain.

[@mikeperry3243]

Time to get Ollie flying - clearly he likes airplanes!

[@kamucho]

I recon my lack of Danish shin tape is deffo the reason I'm slow AF on the bike...

[@cuebj]

Possibly the best test of a track bike is the omnium as it caters for real bunch racing as well as aero. On that basis, the GBNL bike comes out very well. Presume that a half-inch chain would have been similar price - they wouldn't standard chains from Decathlon!

[@THELEGEND-kh2un]

We all know Oliver can't even jump over a log

[@michaelwillis4528]

That specialized hardrock head tube doubles in length so I’m calling cheat.

[@samuelhopely4853]

I'm so disappointed, you're spot on...

[@AgravepasmonK]

and it was WAY better in its original form

[@JohnChoiniere]

Yeah, I mentioned in the submission post that I failed to take a before pic so I just found one online of the same model (a much smaller size, obvs)

[@michaelwillis4528]

@@JohnChoiniere I half wondered if that was the case as all the other frame details match

[@zedatomic8342]

@@michaelwillis4528 but the specialized hard rock was 26” wheels - not enough space to take a 700c….

[@gophersam]

Find someone that looks at you like Ollie looking at gold bike frames.

[@robertcatuara5118]

How am I supposed to recognize GVA now?

[@theloveboxquartet]

Denmark's minimalist shin fairing lol

[@alonzoarteaga]

Haha. Ollie;’s classic quote…”(Alex) …you love lube!” 😂. Bro-love to Ollie, he is the best! 🙂

[@nekobytes9187]

Ollie loves latex, and Alex loves lube. No wonder they get along so well.

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

Bro-love is exactly when you really need lube.

[@Jam789]

GB gold medal

[@carpvictor1214]

My apologies @Anna Kiesenhofer for @GCN saying sorry to audience and not to you.

[@sekc-chua]

I agree with Alex and Ollie. The A-10A (in Gulf War livery) gets a super nice. The badly photographed bicycle, not that nice. LOL.

[@kamucho]

Ollie having a go at the anti-aero commenters 👌 hahaha.

[@sgroadie6367]

Are long tights banned in Track? When will some team think of implants with the aero bumps?

[@haakman123]

The way they said NOS.nl made me laugh out loud

[@kstethespokes1051]

Just for info - average weight loss from a visit to the bathroom is only 128g for a number 2!

[@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511]

Is there update of dura ace di2 12 speed?

[@cpt.slackbladder3187]

Shimano factories are operating at 25% at the moment and won’t take orders from distributors for chain, cassettes and disc rotors for their 11 speed intil 2022. Think there will be long delays.

[@robertmendelson7724]

We are all assuming each riders position is dialed in. Not being able to hold the best aero position for an entire race makes a huge difference. If you don’t think so do an experiment on yourself - ride the same route in the drops, on the aero hood position, and on the hoods. Try to maintain the same power on your meter in each and see which is faster. On the road, a small change in the wind between when one rider goes and another can easily exceed 1.2 watts. I believe Ollie ideregularly makes the point that the rider is the biggest element of drag.

[@pauldobos2982]

Could GCN Tech make a video comparing bottom bracket ebike motors vs rear hub ebike motors, pros cons of each type of system?

[@kamucho]

I tried one of those metly wax pucks to lube my chain...it was fast! And smelt like pine. Think the brand was Yankee candle?

[@Chrisrides]

To Ollie's comment on the super nice A10 Plane. How about the UCI use this as their camera aircraft for next year's tdf! Paint it Yellow and if anyone is thinking of breaking the rules then it also acts as a deterrent! 😆

[@SuperFunSuperLiz1]

So, just on a side note, more folks need to say "Filippo Ganna" like he's italian, instead of pronouncing it Phillipe O'Ganna like he's irish. Lol

[@whitecaneracer]

Thunderbolt II

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

Great show Mates. I was waiting for this and U did an excellent job.

[@roderickmintjens507]

That Dare bike on 22:40 look photoshopped in there!

[@marcogme]

What is the weight limit of a track bike?

[@firesurfer]

Same as road bikes. 6.8 kg minimum.

[@pgn666]

it is also called "bidon" in Poland. Not only French are pretentious ;)

[@keithklein4538]

Bidon in French also means « garbage » or « rubbish », so hardly pretentious.

[@lenwilkinson8541]

I have Shimano 405 disc brakes, and the L 03A pads were extremely thin but there is a 6-9 month backlog on replacement pads. I found that Swiss Stop, Kool Stop, and Galfer make suitable replacements. A local bike shop replaced the L 03A pads with Galfer pads, but also said that I needed new rotors because they squealed when the brakes were applied with the bike in the mechanic's work stand. The shop did not bed-in the new pads or clean the rotors with an appropriate cleaner. The bike has about 5,000 miles on it. When should the rotors be replaced?

[@MaxMustermannnnnn]

I would clean you rotors with brakecleaner and bed in your pads properly. When I’ve changed my pads they where always a bit noisey till they bed in properly. Rotors have to be replaced if they reached minimal thickness. My bike has around 35000km on it and the rotors haven‘t reached minimal thickness . I have around 100kg, so you see rotors have a long lifespan 😂. But I have to say I ride Ultegra Rotors, no cheap ones.

[@Hella-en5dh]

Maybe the Danish team coach just lined up the whole team and smacked them in the shins with a bamboo stick.

[@florebenz]

Is metal polish safe to use on chains?

[@firesurfer]

Polish is not a lube. It has abrasives in it.

[@edmoconnor]

that specialized hardrock upgrade, the upgraded bike is different bike.

[@chrispig7748]

Didn’t shimano do a 10 pitch track gear set up back in the 1980s?

[@chrispig7748]

@MRGRUMPY53 yeah thanks, believe you are right. Sure I saw it in a shimano brochure at the time

[@indorock]

ACTUALLY....the A-10 is known as the Warthog, or the Thunderbolt II, since the original Thunderbolt (P-47) is quite a bit older...

[@thekevlife7353]

Day 1 of suggesting a compilation video of all the Bike Vaults.

[@ChrClausen]

Aparrently the danes had slamed the pedals into their chins.

[@jonoharper4729]

I was expecting this type of incident. You don't have to be an engineer to know that the structural integrity of 3D printed parts may fail under the massive forces and torque deployed in world standard track cycling.

[@LucaBonato]

Apart from resting their weight and sometimes pushing or pulling to reposition and the saddle, handlebars are not so stressed in indoors events in my opinion. Seriously though, I would opt for carbon fiber as it's a better material to be molded in different shapes.

[@firesurfer]

Where it broke was where a bolt is in line with the break. This is very suspicious. It may be more of a design problem rather than a defect. I can't put a link. Search for this; "Australia's snapped handlebar 3D printed, since removed from sale, reports claim" There is a drawing of the bars upsidedown showing the bolts. I'm not thrilled with the use of 3d parts either for this usage. Someone said the bolts may have been tightened too much.

[@not-a-raccoon]

3:09 I feel like I missed something important 🤔

[@harrywilson9105]

I have a question: when I'm in the smallest cog on the cassette if I try to shift up to the next easiest cog the first click on the shifter doesn't change gear(even though they are indexed properly) and then every other gear works completely fine, but I'm unable to get onto the biggest cog. Any ideas of why this is?

[@tychoMX]

This seems to be a problem with too much slack at the beginning of the travel.May be indexed correctly, but not "spaced" correctly at the end? In other words, derailleur outer limit may need to be adjusted? The other one is dirt causing a slow cable or something else creating slack or tension losses somewhere in the system - like a cracked stop or ferrule. A friend had a road bike with a similar problem, the first "click" didn't do anything. It took a frustrating while to to find out the source of the problem was the the point where the cable enters into the shifter was broken, so the housing just moved for a bit instead of pulling the cable the right amount. By that point I had the cable on its own and was measuring the pull for every click in the indexing, thinking it may have been damaged internals. Fortunately these were the SRAM shifters that had two paths for the housing entry, so I re-routed the cables and was able to fix this problem this way.

[@aaronpike1853]

Eh, that's rough. Has it ever shifted properly, or is this a new problem? It sounds like the shifter cable is not installed or adjusted properly. Shift to the small cog and see how much slack there is in the shifter cable; if the cable is slack, return all the barrel adjusters to minimums, loosen the derailleur cable clamp, pull the cable tight and re-tighten the cable clamp. Index the shifter and see if that gets you to the biggest cog.

[@harrywilson9105]

Thabks for the advice Rod Diaz but I think the limit screws are set up properly but I'll check for any broken ferrule or dirt. Aaron pike I'll give this a try as well

[@Rossingiol]

19:50 Did John reweld his frame or what? That is not the same bike! Take a look at the head-tube!

[@barnettkr]

Not Crocs, the old Mavic shoes with the carbon exo-skeleton and replaceable liners

[@phila9288]

Maybe im crazy but a 450 lb chain would make you super slow

[@JamesPassmore]

Regarding the failed 3D printed part, it's not so much a matter of molds or machining being more consistent, as the printing process being so new. We don't yet know all the potential failure modes of printed parts. QC for machined and for printed parts has had many decades to be perfected, but QC for printing is still very much it's infancy. I've been printing since 2007 and have only seen it used for production parts the last few years. We are still discovering a lot about how the parts act in the field. And the airplane can't be super nice because it's showing the wrong side and isn't in biggie smalls.....

[@BikePappy]

I’m more inclined to think that, rather than a QC issue, this is an engineering issue. Engineering is responsible for the design of the product, which includes the testing for suitability of use. The manufacturing process is usually, but not always, specified on the drawings. QC is tasked with ensuring that the part/product meets the engineering specifications. In small companies, it’s not uncommon that engineering, manufacturing and QC are all shared amongst a small team of generally bright individuals that can succumb to time pressure, resource scarcity and over-confidence. These products are at the bleeding edge of the performance spectrum so the occasional failure is a very real possibility.

[@glenlarimer1358]

People moan about your pronunciation of Cinelli because it's incorrect. The C-I combination in Italian is pronounced like our CH digraph, as in the word "church". You wouldn't like it if we pronounced your name AY-lex, would you?

[@firesurfer]

Happens all the time. There is no speech police around... except for France and Quebec. Language is an ever changing thing. It's not worth the effort to get upset about. My brother says our family name differently than everyone else due to a hearing issue.

[@TurWack]

the plane was the wrong way round.

[@keirfarnum6811]

Buy a cheap hair waxing pot on eBay to heat that chain wax and put the chain into. These also work for hide glue for woodworking, veneering, or for preparing oil painting canvasses with rabbit skin type hide glue for primer.

[@add1cted2l3arning]

My browser has just as many Oakley ads plastered all over the webpage

[@AmaroqStarwind]

Want to make something even crazier? Go back to that 4.28 kilogram hyperbike... Swap all of the titanium for magnesium, get a very lightweight _no-nose_ saddle, use carbon spokes on the wheels, and fill the tyres with helium. Boom.

[@Sp3ktral22]

And Anna rides in GCN colors too. Forgiven

[@cypercharged]

Time is not real, just an emergent property from the always increasing entropy #GCNDoesScience

[@colinpercy2028]

How does Alex find time to do all this work on GCN and play the character Todd on Coronation Street?🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dwebb1935]

Haha, with the Anna Keisenhofer photo-gate: I guess it proves that your video editors are working so hard on the content that they don't even have time to watch the Olympics and didn't know Anna Keisenhofer from AvV? Poor little post-pro elves... 😂😂😂

[@gcntech]

🙈 Sorry we do make mistakes occasionally, we'll make sure to turn the Olympics off when we're editing our videos so we're not distracted...

[@feedbackzaloop]

Huh, noone yet correcting Ollie that Warthog has in fact 7-barreled gun?

[@PrzemyslawSliwinski]

1:05 - the same bike of the same size? If not, it still won't be fair, I suppose. Also, what about saddles - the same shape for all? Which one? Let UCI rather set the limit of the bike price (at €3000, say ;)

[@luminousfractal420]

the bell gets ringed🤦‍♂️

[@thepie4052]

1:57 😂🤣😂😅

[@timsgarage1861]

Most of us are not elite track cyclist. So, yeah not so important to us to gain 1 watt

[@supernoodles908]

Agreed

[@event4216]

Don't be so snobbish about 1/3 of my output!

[@timsgarage1861]

@@event4216 Didn’t mean to offend 🙃

[@sbirulicchio]

Filippo Ganna

[@rikibike1938]

Does anybody here knows the gear ratio of Italy's TTT bikes ridden in the Tokyo Olympics?

[@GeekonaBike]

!.2 watts is about 1/2 what most of the commenters on here would get from removing one spacer out from underneath their stem

[@matthewbaynham6286]

Hang on... you had an article about how some 3D printed bars and stem just snapped in the Olympics and then a few minutes later you have another article about 3D printed shoes and say how wonderful they are. Are the 3D printed shoes made by the same 3D printing machine which makes handlebars and stems for the Olympics?

[@The1trueDave]

It's fair to say shoes are probably under a bit less stress than track bars. Also some materials may be more susceptible to imperfections than others - I imagine small flaws wouldn't propogate so readily in a softer material such as you might use for shoes?

[@otm646]

There are 3D printed aerospace and aircraft components in active use today. 3D printing writ large is not the issue it's that these manufacturers need to work on their process and quality control.

[@bronson911s2]

Alex, the interesting observation I have made is that in this vid your hair looks like a plastic head piece. What is up with that?