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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 9 ай бұрын
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@HauntedCorpseGaming
@HauntedCorpseGaming 9 ай бұрын
Great video, I think the best "treatment" is the Karlov Manor one since it is actually LEGIBLE. :D
@epicthief
@epicthief 9 ай бұрын
Unhinged, unglued, why won't they ever do that again!?!?!?!?
@andytaker999
@andytaker999 9 ай бұрын
what is the music?
@MegaSlapster
@MegaSlapster 9 ай бұрын
Wizards of the Coast desperately trying to find the least expensive cards to reprint literally every time they make anything ever:
@bobross8585
@bobross8585 9 ай бұрын
Yeah they should reprint every fetch and every shock and sell them in a bundle for $50 for all of them
@Macwylee
@Macwylee 9 ай бұрын
I am not believe
@Reformed322
@Reformed322 9 ай бұрын
Dude I know. It’s the same cards every time. Oh gee thanks another Jace. At the end of the day it’s all such a corp decision that it’s obvious at this point. No one, even newer players, would want or need these cards, and the art is pretty lame as well.
@XitwitchX
@XitwitchX 9 ай бұрын
@@bobross8585or maybe just not a collection of 4 10 cent cards plus a single $15-$20 staple for $50 or a bunch of basics for $70. Would be much happier with sets of 5 cards each worth $3-$10 for reasonable price points, taking into consideration that wizards does have to pay for newly commissioned art.
@Automaconfuso
@Automaconfuso 9 ай бұрын
And yet they sell faster than light. So I guess there are lots of people just liking the arts ​@@Reformed322
@DuonDRaven
@DuonDRaven 9 ай бұрын
Prof's face in the thumbnail should be the next art for Smothering Tithe.
@queue1312
@queue1312 9 ай бұрын
Or "Greed".
@MortonFMurphy
@MortonFMurphy 9 ай бұрын
Holy Emrakul, I'm doing it
@duckhuntdynasty6562
@duckhuntdynasty6562 9 ай бұрын
Proxy time!
@tyfood9999
@tyfood9999 9 ай бұрын
That's a secret lair I would buy
@roxashenry8315
@roxashenry8315 9 ай бұрын
Did you pay 2 to post this?
@Goober7089
@Goober7089 9 ай бұрын
The dead face at the beginning definitely made me chuckle
@SuperMerryGo
@SuperMerryGo 9 ай бұрын
Did you enjoy that? 😂😂😂
@Goober7089
@Goober7089 9 ай бұрын
@@SuperMerryGo the cheery intro into a 😐 was a funny transition
@Imperial_Squid
@Imperial_Squid 9 ай бұрын
-Many Magic: The Gathering pl- 😐😐
@p4radoxical
@p4radoxical 9 ай бұрын
I think cards get the most unreadable when the words are part of the art, but I do appreciate that the hardboiled thrillers drop at least used a preset font, making it significantly more readable at a glance than many other card treatments.
@zacharysummers7459
@zacharysummers7459 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, the Jace is almost *more* readable, separating the triggered ability from the loyalty abilities. But that's one lair among many.
@MrPhiskas
@MrPhiskas 9 ай бұрын
The best secret lair would be Chains of Mephistopheles with a flowchart of what the card does.
@josiahclarke3535
@josiahclarke3535 9 ай бұрын
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COLLECTORS!?!?!?
@coriandyr
@coriandyr 9 ай бұрын
​@josiahclarke3535 idk just thinking about collectors feelings makes my wallet smolder to cinders 😂😂😂
@joem8507
@joem8507 9 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about this drop is that everyone thought they reprinted Black Market Connections but sorry... its only Black Market...
@eddemirer4776
@eddemirer4776 9 ай бұрын
Damn, I was one of them hah
@serberus180
@serberus180 9 ай бұрын
I will say I’m one of those people who saw black market and autofilled connections in my brain. Completely forgot about that card cuz I don’t run it at all.
@ceulgai2817
@ceulgai2817 9 ай бұрын
@@serberus180 What a shame; it's really good
@demoncushion9600
@demoncushion9600 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for saving me $40
@CookiesFTA
@CookiesFTA 9 ай бұрын
Just buy the pirate precon@@demoncushion9600
@int3r4ct
@int3r4ct 9 ай бұрын
I feel you on the "secret lair cards are bad for gameplay" bit. I haven't bought a single secret liar personally, but I have been an MTG fan for a long time. As an artist myself, I respect all of the secret lair artworks, and some of them are truly just beyond incredible. I enjoy the ones that people seem to dislike, such as the works from Matt Jukes, the 'anime' ones (that a lot of people are mixed on) like the works of Yoji Shinkawa, Tsubonari, Riyou Kamei, and JungShan, and then the ones that are a bit more out there, like works from Dani Pendergast, Micha Huigen, Mark Riddick, Lauren YS, or Ayako Ishiguro, and even the more naturalistic painterly stuff from Frank Frazetta or Dan Frazier. All of that said... a lot of them I'd rather just have a poster of or put them in a frame and not try to jam them in an actual match of MTG. I respect what Wizards is trying to do to get more attention for artists and have super cool cards and let the artists just do their own thing, but I feel like a lot of them just don't work as Magic the Gathering cards for being played.
@benjaminloyd6056
@benjaminloyd6056 9 ай бұрын
A yes, the Secret Liar.
@int3r4ct
@int3r4ct 9 ай бұрын
@@benjaminloyd6056 auto correct has a great sense of humor sometimes
@m1gr3nA
@m1gr3nA 9 ай бұрын
It makes you wonder how the process of designing how the card will look like is for SLs. Some of them have full art with actual textbox and some... have... stuff vaguely reminding text on them. Why the legibility is so wildly different? Also art being subjective and all that shtick but effort to make the artwork on some of them seems extremally low compared to others. And lastly no matter how good an artwork is, no matter how much effort was put into it, it still may not be suitable for a card that may be used in a game. Lets not try to squeeze those onto cards at any cost.
@lololllololololol
@lololllololololol 9 ай бұрын
I straight up bought four copies of Lightpaws just for the alternative artwork. A few these Secret Lairs I'd never touch though.
@HyggeState
@HyggeState 9 ай бұрын
Though not quite a catastrophe for me, it bears mentioning that as a new player this is how I am learning about cards like Circular Logic; as a misprint.
@brianm2242
@brianm2242 9 ай бұрын
I rate this comment a 2 out of 2.
@robertoch8276
@robertoch8276 9 ай бұрын
It would also be easier to stomach a high price tag for a middling price group of cards if they were some kind of coherent theme. I wouldn't mind (for example) Obeka being a $0.25 card in a $30 secret lair if the other cards were ones that you would play in an Obeka commander deck, especially with them all decorated in the same theme. It just doesn't make sense pairing her with Jace, Wielder of Self-Millsteries and Dire Undercurrents - not to mention Reconnaissance - instead of cards synergistic to her like Sundial of the Infinite and Final Fortune - even with spots for cheap cards like Mulldrifter and Alchemist's Gambit - that you would intentionally put in the same deck as her. Considering how the only consistent draw of Secret Lairs is the cool-looking styles, there just aren't very many secret lair sets that you would - or even can - all play in the same deck in any format, even a casual 100 card singleton, so that those styles can give your deck a unique feel on the table.
@trident042
@trident042 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Some bespoke Secret Lairs based around a given commander or deck archetype would really help pull some of the less coherent art style ones together.
@MRAIClassroom
@MRAIClassroom 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Completely random cards that MAYBE some day will fit into a commander deck? It’s terrible.
@harleybaker4684
@harleybaker4684 9 ай бұрын
That’s why I really liked the ones they did with Nekusar last year. Every card in that set was at least usable in a Nekusar build. Was still eligible and made sense as a collective product
@minispiel19
@minispiel19 9 ай бұрын
I think you really got it. The cards don’t even go together a lot of the time.
@jollaffle
@jollaffle 9 ай бұрын
It's wild to me that the textless Cryptic Command - which I thought was pretty universally recognized as a mistake for a game piece - looks downright tame next to the layout and visual design for some of these drops. Pageantry is definitely the primary or only goal here
@DarkDiamondInc
@DarkDiamondInc 9 ай бұрын
the primary goal of art cards is for the art?? who would have guessed.
@Welverin
@Welverin 9 ай бұрын
The abyss stared into us, and we stared back. For we are empty.
@roxashenry8315
@roxashenry8315 9 ай бұрын
My wallets empty and it ain't got no eyes, splain that oh wise poet
@dyrnwynski
@dyrnwynski 9 ай бұрын
I wish The Abyss was staring at me from this Secret Lair
@MentalCrusader
@MentalCrusader 9 ай бұрын
tbh, the "NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT" head spam is always my favorite part of secret lairs
@metalliholic
@metalliholic 9 ай бұрын
Same
@diojoubu7320
@diojoubu7320 8 ай бұрын
Same. Made me spill some of my soda.
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE 9 ай бұрын
Huh surprised that they didn’t have a dragon secret lair for Saturday and Lunar New Year.
@zwair42069
@zwair42069 9 ай бұрын
Overload 1 (Replace every instance of the word "surprised" with the word "disappointed")
@gsmastermike
@gsmastermike 9 ай бұрын
I so badly wanted one with dragons 😢
@nobodyimportant72
@nobodyimportant72 9 ай бұрын
Heck, if you wanted a simple improvement trade out that Scourge of Valkas for Terror of the Peaks; both fill a similar role but I don't think anyone asks which is better.
@MrRib
@MrRib 9 ай бұрын
They do APAC promos for that every year and you can get a sarkhan and dragonlord's servant by going to your LGS across the next week and playing in standard events
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
No that would make too much business sense
@thatmtgnerd
@thatmtgnerd 9 ай бұрын
For special arts things like the beauty of the beasts is the way to go. Pretty and unique art that is also formated like a normal magic card and is easy to read.
@sephyrias883
@sephyrias883 9 ай бұрын
05:50 not to mention that you can't recognize what the card is by looks alone, since the mana cost is hidden below the artwork and the card doesn't have a colored border or any color in general.
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
Yeah they don't even attempt to be playable cards just a fomo speculation people are gambling will increase in value
@androkguz
@androkguz 9 ай бұрын
I do kind of like them as a poster. And would like them with proper framing as abstract art for those cards
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
@@androkguz I always thought it was weird magic doesn't have high quality art books of their cards. Pretty sure fans would buy them, I know I would
@stunlockedirl
@stunlockedirl 9 ай бұрын
@@rootfish2671 i've got a book i got from reddit secret santa a few years ago. i gotta go find it, but it had some nice high quality art
@cherry9787
@cherry9787 8 ай бұрын
​@@rootfish2671 Only thing I've seen was a book of "The Art of Zendikar"
@Zenith118
@Zenith118 9 ай бұрын
I thought Wall of Omens said Wall of Otters since it's so hard to read. I will definitely be calling it that from now on.
@stereotypicalemousername9507
@stereotypicalemousername9507 9 ай бұрын
be careful wizards might see this and make it into a card in the next unset
@ColorwaveCraftsCo
@ColorwaveCraftsCo 9 ай бұрын
Glad I wasn’t the only one
@pmf98
@pmf98 9 ай бұрын
I feel really bad that the fomo strategy worked on me. Most of what I got was not worth what I paid. I was just shocked that the Cats and Dogs deck sold out immediately but this one is still going on after two days. This is artificial scarcity at its finest, and I’m ashamed that it worked on me. I’m so sorry for contributing to this problem. Buy singles, support your LGS, and don’t feel pressured to buy anything like this secret lair drop.
@brixxbox8225
@brixxbox8225 9 ай бұрын
The fact the first non-deck secret lair after the FOMO method was introduced had practically no value should not be ignored
@davidjohnson9186
@davidjohnson9186 9 ай бұрын
You may still be able to cancel your order!
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
I don't blame magic has always been financially predatory with their products and the limited edition FOMO strategy is a tried and true business strategy. At least you didn't fight other people over a pink Stanley cup
@NewFemtex
@NewFemtex 9 ай бұрын
Just cancel your order.
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
@@NewFemtex isn't their a very limited amount of time to cancel your order?
@breakfield1944
@breakfield1944 9 ай бұрын
I like the way they handle the rules text with the cereal box style art where one side is the "rule" side and the other the "art" side. It makes it a lot easier than when the text is messily crammed into the art
@FPzero
@FPzero 9 ай бұрын
It was a nice idea but then I noticed that the mana cost is only printed on the art side, and not the rules side. So you'll have to remember the mana cost or the rules text, or spend time flipping the card in its sleeve to check one or the other side.
@LeekDavis613
@LeekDavis613 9 ай бұрын
​@@FPzero the cmc is in the same nutrition box as the rules on the back
@FPzero
@FPzero 9 ай бұрын
@@LeekDavis613 Ah I think I missed that! Which, I suppose is just furthering the Professor's point about card legibility when you think about it.
@LeekDavis613
@LeekDavis613 9 ай бұрын
@@FPzero well, its pretty easy to read imo. But from the promo vids they dont give full shots of the backside of the cereal cards for some reason.
@lordspaz88
@lordspaz88 9 ай бұрын
Hey, "Bilbo Baggins" by Leonard Nemoy was a cultural touchstone! You take that back!
@Billchu13
@Billchu13 9 ай бұрын
Hear hear
@Billchu13
@Billchu13 9 ай бұрын
Rabble rabble!
@JediMB
@JediMB 9 ай бұрын
🎶 In the middle of the Earth, in the land of Shire Lives a brave little Hobbit whom we all admire 🎶
@newtpondskipper
@newtpondskipper 9 ай бұрын
I do still use it to explain LSD use to people who have never done it. I love the song but that video...
@LordJedite
@LordJedite 9 ай бұрын
Came to the comments to say the same.
@RedBossTV
@RedBossTV 9 ай бұрын
I’m yet to regret missing a secret lair. The ones I enjoyed the most so far were the pixel basic lands and the Dan Frazier retro frame rocks, but even these had the best of the bunch reserved for in person events.
@alecmullaney7957
@alecmullaney7957 9 ай бұрын
I wish I had grabbed the coin flip one, but that's really it.
@ospero7681
@ospero7681 9 ай бұрын
I've purchased exactly two - the Bob Ross one and the most recent Doctor Who one, because hey, Doctor Who and mechanically unique cards. This entire drop just makes me sad. I remember seeing older Secret Lairs with Craterhoof Behemoth or Consecrated Sphinx, or Lairs with basic lands that had *ten* cards rather than five. Ah well, gotta pay for the Hasbro board's bonuses somehow, I guess...
@santuli_91
@santuli_91 9 ай бұрын
I agree with the assessments of all these lairs completely. They are really not worth the cost. That said...I am still dangerously close to getting the Beauty of the Beasts one because I do play 4 out of 5 od those card and I find the art so gorgeous! While still looking like magic cards! No illegible frame, no treatment that makes it look like a poster or a cereal box or anything except a magic card. That's what you usually gets my attention the most. Cards I love in beautiful new art on a good old simple magic card frame.
@gsmastermike
@gsmastermike 9 ай бұрын
That's the one I'm closest to getting. The felidar is gorgeous
@caseyfurey1348
@caseyfurey1348 9 ай бұрын
I bought it, for the exact reasons you mentioned. Never bought a secret lair before. I have a home for all five cards, the art is fantastic, and I hope it reinforces that we want legible game pieces at the end of the day. The rest of the lairs are dreadful
@allict
@allict 9 ай бұрын
Get it secondhand after it comes out. They're always available somewhere for list price, usually less.
@asaffin1
@asaffin1 9 ай бұрын
A consideration for the Cereal lair: I think there's a good change that Sakashima is going to be reprinted in Thunder Junction somewhere. I think Partner has a strong possibility of showing up as at least a subtheme in the set, and Sakashima is kind of an outlaw character. So I expect the "value" of this lair to very quickly evaporate when Sakashima becomes a $10 card.
@animesfreakify
@animesfreakify 9 ай бұрын
It won't be this version, it'll be a new sakashima
@asaffin1
@asaffin1 9 ай бұрын
@@animesfreakify Maybe, but you have to admit that Wizards has a proven track record of printing a low-supply card into a secret lair and then immediately printing it into a widely available mainline release. Being the highest value card in the entire drop it seems a little sus, no? If Sakashima is a character in the set, then perhaps the main set will include a new version and one of the commander decks will have the reprint.
@StarkMaximum
@StarkMaximum 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, exactly what I expect to see in the Wild West set; a character from a plane themed entirely around Japanese culture???
@TaskMaster5
@TaskMaster5 9 ай бұрын
@@StarkMaximum Shanghai Noon vibes.
@asaffin1
@asaffin1 9 ай бұрын
@@StarkMaximum The theme of the set is rascals and scalawags from around the multiverse showing up for a showdown. So I don't think culture or origin are exclusionary factors for any character. But even so, it could be in a commander deck, too, or the List possibly.
@MultiTbone12
@MultiTbone12 9 ай бұрын
Secret lair alert depression
@LegitBogus
@LegitBogus 9 ай бұрын
Wow, there aren’t any basic lands in this. Thrilling.
@Noelia-Nedds-You
@Noelia-Nedds-You 9 ай бұрын
Cereal 2: Electric Boogaloo.
@antonioarrendol2655
@antonioarrendol2655 9 ай бұрын
Yeah they literally already did the cereal-style art... why would they retread old ground like that? Feels really uninspired and lazy (as a direction decision from management, not to trash talk the hard work that the artists are doing).
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
​@@antonioarrendol2655I suspect these are just unreleased cards they commissioned from the first set so they could be on schedule for future secret lair releases
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 9 ай бұрын
Why does this joke get recycled for every single sequel? Furthermore, why do people continue to find it funny? Honestly blows my mind. "haha it rhyme"
@antonioarrendol2655
@antonioarrendol2655 9 ай бұрын
@@rootfish2671 That... would be a stroke of evil business genius... if you only think about it as far as an evil busimessman would think about it, which is, "does this save us money?" And not, you know, "is this going to make us look silly?"
@user-xx9wq6xo2n
@user-xx9wq6xo2n 9 ай бұрын
@@jeffe2267womp womp
@Tvboy777
@Tvboy777 9 ай бұрын
“Honey, what day is it?” “TCC is complaining about Secret Lairs again.” “Cool, it’s Wednesday.”
@MRAIClassroom
@MRAIClassroom 9 ай бұрын
Haha
@dailydose1729
@dailydose1729 9 ай бұрын
Sakashima is a 50 CAD in Canada and I dig the art. So that's why I got it and Twincasters is just extra. I got the black market/dire undercurrents/reconnaissance one but unfoil. Secret lair foils become hella curled when they get shipped up north.
@AC3handle
@AC3handle 9 ай бұрын
It seems to me, an added value blizzards could toss in, would be for double sided cards, a token card that would work in the deck. ESPECIALLY for foil cards, having non foil token to represent it, would make life easier for someone playing in official events.
@cameronbolt5533
@cameronbolt5533 9 ай бұрын
At a Legacy weekly, I saw a somewhat newer player use Grief, see the cereal version of Ulamog, Ceaseless hunger in their opponent's hand, stare at the Reanimate in their hand, and proceed to take something else because they assumed that version of Ulamog had the shuffle clause of the old one. It might not have been correct to reanimate the Ulamog because of the deck they were playing against (Green 12 post) being easily able to search out Karakas but it still serves as an example of how the awful formatting can screw people over.
@underscore_5450
@underscore_5450 9 ай бұрын
The business model for secret lairs is so predatory and fucked up for so many reasons. You're being sold a fomo that will be ancient history by the time you actually receive it. With how fast Wotc turns these out, I highly doubt there are any test prints done before hand. You're being sold an idea of a card that hasn't even been printed yet. And by the time you do receive it, it's way too late to complain about any quality issues with foils, printing, or card stock. From my own personally experience, the quality for secret lairs varies dramatically and you'll never really know how the cards will turn out until your receive them. And if they're shitty pringles or something, who cares? 30 more secret lairs have dropped since you placed your order so who knows how these new ones will turn out? They're manufactured collector's items with barely any quality control and rarely any substantial value long term. All secret lairs do is stuff the secondary market with overpriced collectable skins. I wish they were more like bundles that gave you a set of cards themed around something. Like the commander collections?! That even came with their own unique art and were sold in stores?! Secret lairs are just shittier commander collections without any of the practicality.
@Sipricy
@Sipricy 9 ай бұрын
9:48 While I 100% understand the issue of cards being unreadable, I wanted to point out that the backside of the cereal box cards *should* have all of the information you need to play those cards. Sakashima, for example, has its name, mana cost, card type, creature types, card text, and power/toughness shown on its back. If you want to play the card, you can just play with its backside face-up.
@ryanflippinharris
@ryanflippinharris 9 ай бұрын
So people have to miss out on the art on the other side to show the info side?
@thenickoftime167
@thenickoftime167 9 ай бұрын
The terrible shipping times is what sent me over the edge on this one
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
It does not well for magic cards as a successful franchise. All of these mistakes scream the massive layoffs are negatively affecting the quality of their products and Hasbro is just chasing short term earnings until they end magic as a franchise completely to appease the share holders
@trident042
@trident042 9 ай бұрын
For me it's the departure from print to demand in favor of the fomo model. I'm done with SLs if I can't even buy them after taking time to consider the purchase - and I say that as someone who bought several last year. Sorry, but if it's first come, bot served, I'm left with scalpers and proxies to get SL cards I want. And guess what? WotC printed proxies for their 30th anniversary! So guess which one I'm choosing?
@Nanook128
@Nanook128 9 ай бұрын
How are the shipping times terrible? Compared to past secret lairs it's pretty fast.
@trident042
@trident042 9 ай бұрын
@@Nanook128 Six months to three months is virtually indistinguishable. If they were promising like, 1 to 2 week turnaround that would be a very different story, and even THEN it still wouldn't excuse changing to the FOMO model in a lot of peoples' eyes.
@Nanook128
@Nanook128 9 ай бұрын
@@trident042 prof said they were shipping out in March. That's less than a month away. Was the statement about when they're shipping out inaccurate?
@thatothergalperson
@thatothergalperson 9 ай бұрын
The point on the Just Add Milk (in both its original and newest iteration) is misleading IMO. The full rules text and necessary game information all exists on a single side of the card on the "backside of the box". The front of the box is primarily for display purposes and a player could very easily use the other side for play purposes.
@pytawidmo
@pytawidmo 9 ай бұрын
That Circular Logic is _clearly_ a callback to Portal style counter spells, like Mystic Denial. They just forgot to print the extra rules text: "Play Circular Logic only in response to another player playing a spell".
@pytawidmo
@pytawidmo 9 ай бұрын
That Scourge of Valkas should have been Terror of the Peaks.
@jihokim788
@jihokim788 9 ай бұрын
I actually like the Cereal cards because on the back side all the text is on it and it’s decently legible.
@CheckOutMyPokemons
@CheckOutMyPokemons 9 ай бұрын
Literally the first thing I said when I saw the full drop was "What's going on with card selection?". Like it's strangely bad
@johnathanrhoades7751
@johnathanrhoades7751 9 ай бұрын
The art for the beast ones is pretty 😊 and that’s the only positive thing I have to say about these secret lairs.
@richardrahl1001
@richardrahl1001 9 ай бұрын
We have a ruling at our table: can’t read it-can’t play it (so no weird proxies too). And a buddy and I at this table have both been buying booster boxes since way, way back in the day. We will not spend money if the non-foil price isn’t 70%ish the box. Though we have moved to collectors boxes in recent sets. -Secret Lairs, commander exclusive, modern reprints, and many of the recent sets have proven under valued. (Not to mention other subjective issues similar to your points).
@Reruro
@Reruro 9 ай бұрын
Prof I'm gonna be honest, I'm so disconnected from what Wizards is up to these days and so utterly fatigued by the constant barrage of Secret Lairs that I didn't even know this SuperDrop existed. Now I'm just sitting here laughing.
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
Don't think about it! Just consume and get excited for new product!
@nikos731
@nikos731 9 ай бұрын
5:13 Ahhh, my favorite card, Wall of Otters.
@alexfilmwriting
@alexfilmwriting 9 ай бұрын
The prof's glorious coiffed hair compared with the clips he's chosen as heralds of secret lairs says a lot about the evolution of this problem, especially for those of us who remember the reasons why his hair was sort at that time.
@PwndNewbie
@PwndNewbie 9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. Secret Lairs have been mostly hot garbage for a long time. I am glad someone with a voice is speaking for the customer. I refuse to pay $30 on a SL unless there is at minimum one $30 card in the box. So as you can tell, I buy very few.
@CyberBuster93
@CyberBuster93 9 ай бұрын
We are watching this man descend into madness in real time, everyone. 😭😂💀
@Dtoszi
@Dtoszi 9 ай бұрын
And I will give him Likes for it
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
I feel like I'M losing my mind at the sight if these cards. I just recently got back into magic after quitting around Urzas Saga only to discover this is what magic had devolved into?
@Welverin
@Welverin 9 ай бұрын
Have been for years.
@southparkdudz
@southparkdudz 9 ай бұрын
WOTC: We can't fix the misprint cause it's already been printed. Us: Soooo we were right about going to limited quantities being bad?
@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy
@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy 9 ай бұрын
Personally, I like the cereal box art. I think the front side makes it pretty clear what the card is, and while I agree on the annoyance of having the pertinent text (effects, power, toughness, etc) be on the back... I'd also say that the cards in that set are fairly well known selections that only fairly new, inexperienced, or lapsed fans won't be aware of. Also, I generally like cards that try to be different than just your standard "MTG template" art style. More and more, I've found myself preferring the borderless or extended art cards over the regular prints. The thriller novel prints look dope and I'd totally play with them if I felt I needed any of those cards. I do agree on the game pieces themselves being lackluster. It all but guarantees that these cards won't hold value over time. The cards that maintain their value are usually ones that are worth playing, and most of these... they're not worth playing. That's my main point of contention with a lot of Secret Lairs, they aren't picking cards that are good enough or useful enough to warrant a print. Cards like Dueling Grounds, Mana Crypt/Vault, Edgar Markov, Triomes, Fetch Lands, Mindbreak Trap... they could all stand to be reprinted but instead they're picking junk like Scourge of Valkas? Ridiculous.
@mikebott6940
@mikebott6940 9 ай бұрын
Some of the past Secret Lairs were cool- Tomb Raider- and other- Theros Gods in Constellations- were utterly breathtaking. The Cereal and *especially* Deceptive Divination Lairs insult the customer. The Magic players I know have been unanimously disappointed with the latter.
@zotha
@zotha 9 ай бұрын
The whole reason to change to limit supply was to double capitalize on FOMO instead of just being regular FOMO.
@TheFranchise83
@TheFranchise83 9 ай бұрын
I noticed they're selling out of the bundles and the one with the Serpent, Felidar, Scourge of Valkas also sold out and now you can no longer get Scorpion God.
@samuelbemis8304
@samuelbemis8304 9 ай бұрын
ngl, I got really excited for Hard boiled Thrillers as I use like 4 of the 5 in active commader decks and I love the art, all the other drops however were easy passes
@johngraham6770
@johngraham6770 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your point about lairs made of "low-value" cards. The recent galaxy foil rocks + command tower drop wasn't even remotely close to worth it on paper, but they're cards with gorgeous art and are legible game pieces, while being staples that I'll never stop using as long as I play commander. That's what made that one worth it.
@abangdzulqarnaen4129
@abangdzulqarnaen4129 9 ай бұрын
LOL “ITS BRIAN KIBLER!” XD Kyle Hill cameo XD
@dankenstein528
@dankenstein528 9 ай бұрын
D seems unfair to the non-foil cereal cards. It is worth more than the asking price on its face, so it shouldn't be just above an outright failure reserved for SL's worth like a dollar total. C or C+ seems more fair.
@paniago82
@paniago82 9 ай бұрын
6:23 what they just give you 5 bugs back and that is it ? what a great product and quality control xD
@NameEntry
@NameEntry 9 ай бұрын
That'd what Arena is for.
@MagicPrepper
@MagicPrepper 9 ай бұрын
You're the master of ad integrations. Respect.
@HabitualJoker
@HabitualJoker 9 ай бұрын
I was fully ready to drop some dough on the Winter Superdrop. I instantly put my credit card away after I looked through what they were offering.
@crocholiday
@crocholiday 9 ай бұрын
I did too lol.
@Areinu
@Areinu 9 ай бұрын
Wizards are trying very hard to make 5-land drops look like much better deal. At least with those you don't have to worry about readability, and incorrect rule printing. They just work! And cost 5 cents, like the cards in other drops! And you're at least using lands in your decks, unlike cards that literally no one plays in any format.
@chipyoung260
@chipyoung260 9 ай бұрын
I bought the just add milk set. I needed adrix and nev and sakashima anyway and I enjoy the art, I do agree the double sided thing will be the most annoying thing about them though
@willthetrill77
@willthetrill77 9 ай бұрын
I love the ongoing Kibler gag. Keep up the good work Prof!
@midnightpizzagoblin
@midnightpizzagoblin 9 ай бұрын
such a glaring misprint is really embarassing
@somepersonsomewhereonearth
@somepersonsomewhereonearth 9 ай бұрын
give it 2-3 year and Secret Lair will start printing single cards and you can pay 30-40 for 1 card. where half are a 5 cent common
@Allmyf4ult
@Allmyf4ult 9 ай бұрын
kyle hills face plastered on a body when he said "Oh my god its brian" had no business making me laugh as hard as it did
@TheGigglestick5000
@TheGigglestick5000 9 ай бұрын
As a person who recently got back into magic I focused on buying cards I could play with first. Getting cards I thought would be interesting at the table and fun to play. I didn't pay much attention to any secret lair drops as the value seemed low while I was trying to rebuild my collection. Now that I have most of the cards I enjoy or stuff from my old collection I have been watching the secret lair drops fairly close and time and again I am disappointed at the value of the collection offered or the messy state of the cards. I am 100% with Prof on this take. The art is cool and all but not being able to understand what the card does because of missing text or it being on both sides just makes me lose all interest.
@utkphilobio
@utkphilobio 9 ай бұрын
At this point, I'm just numb to it all. Lorcana's been pretty fun though.
@Library4Lich
@Library4Lich 9 ай бұрын
I would like to recommend flesh and blood if you're looking to jump ship. The game is stellar.
@Montyandrew45
@Montyandrew45 9 ай бұрын
I am working on learning Flesh and Blood
@trexrex7778
@trexrex7778 9 ай бұрын
I’m very conflicted because the MKM showcase secret lair has absolute awful value but Gonti, Grenzo, and Villis rank among my favorite cards in the entire game and I’d love their special printings
@jacobyspurnger8488
@jacobyspurnger8488 9 ай бұрын
You want my commentary on this, so here it is. Why is anyone still buying hasbro products? How many times do they have to call you an obstacle between them and their money before you stop contributing to their slow fall into oblivion? How much worse does the paper and cardboard quantity have to get before they stop selling? How much less effort and AI generation do they need for everyone to stop buying it?
@MortalRoomba
@MortalRoomba 9 ай бұрын
The first half of this video is the endless philosophical battle between form and function 😂
@Squatch_needs_no_heroes
@Squatch_needs_no_heroes 9 ай бұрын
Bilbo Baggins is a 70s icon!
@Petalene
@Petalene 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Entertaining as always. Thanks for the laughs.
@chronosorion6911
@chronosorion6911 9 ай бұрын
“Doesn’t he look tired?…”
@benjaminloyd6056
@benjaminloyd6056 9 ай бұрын
;{)
@michaelgb4622
@michaelgb4622 9 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan of Secret Lairs. I didn’t like them at first and thought they were a fad; now I’m known as “the Secret Lair guy” at my LGS. This Secret Lair drop, except for the cereal one (which I love), is probably the most disappointed I’ve been in a drop. The hardboiled detective one was kinda cool art wise but the original arts for those cards are just better in moly opinion. Very disappointing indeed.
@Harpoquondrax
@Harpoquondrax 9 ай бұрын
Is this the first one of the year? Already hard to keep track. Excited for this video.
@SuperAmaton
@SuperAmaton 9 ай бұрын
I agree that often secret Lairs have difficult to read cardtext. I find it funny though that you bring it up with these ones in particular, some like "Keep Partying Hard, Shred Harder Than You Previously Thought Possible" are abominations when comparing them with these ones (looking online I mean, I've never bought a Secret Lair before).
@Chilledsky2
@Chilledsky2 9 ай бұрын
Hey. Bilbo Baggins is the greatest little hobbit of them all. Best not forget that
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 9 ай бұрын
I'm getting tired of people constantly making fun of the old cartoon from the 70's using 2024 standards and biases. For a low budget cartoon from the 70's that wasn't from a major animation studio I think they did pretty well with the resources they had. Hand drawn animation is incredibly hard, time consuming and takes a lot of skill and is practically a lost art. I would like to see anyone else attempt to do it without replying on animation software and character rigs.
@TheManFromNan
@TheManFromNan 9 ай бұрын
1:37 "Bold strategy Cotton. Lets see if it pays off."
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 9 ай бұрын
NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT!!!!! 😂😂😂
@seanbennett494
@seanbennett494 9 ай бұрын
Speaking of SLs, did you ever mount that Princess Bride SL? Will it turn up in the studio or is that lovely set dedicated for your home?
@Singe0255
@Singe0255 9 ай бұрын
The only thing exciting about this drop is the ability to get a foil Reconnaissance
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 9 ай бұрын
this is the ONLY reason I would buy it. But ... I don't have 50€ to throw at few cardboards.
@meatforge
@meatforge 9 ай бұрын
been waiting for a foil reconnaissance for my all foil adeline deck. i also use black market in a deck of mine, so big score for me
@QuestioningLogic
@QuestioningLogic 9 ай бұрын
Omg! It’s Brian Kibler! 😂
@twarnold14
@twarnold14 9 ай бұрын
Wait, the mistake has already been printed AND it’s not going to ship for another month? I’m confused as to the delay.
@CyberBuster93
@CyberBuster93 9 ай бұрын
6:38 OKAY, Y'ALL KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING WITH THIS ONE 💀
@sailordaigurren8225
@sailordaigurren8225 9 ай бұрын
I don't get it...
@nickoas97
@nickoas97 9 ай бұрын
Anyone who hates on Prof is crazy. This man is for the people, always advocating for us little players to the big boss.
@SeriousSamurai077
@SeriousSamurai077 9 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with the art in Secret Lairs causing an issue with readability, as long as all the game information is contained (so it is in fact a functioning magic card and not just an art card). I mean, that's why they are printed as secret lairs, and not part of the standard sets. It allows for creativity in a way that wouldn't normally be possible when using the cards as part of your deck.
@nicolasfurger1032
@nicolasfurger1032 9 ай бұрын
I love the super art cards art but I don’t have any decks to put them in. I’d be buying it just to put in a binder.
@LilyWater84
@LilyWater84 9 ай бұрын
Circular logic misprint might be the single best thing they could have done for that secret lair. “Sorcery speed counterspell” rings a lot better and causes more attention then “they made a meh secret lair where the art is very specific”. If I didn’t think so little of quality control I’d say it’s a marketing tactic designed to get collectors to buy it in the name of “they messed up the card and it’ll hold value in the future” (potential hold value)
@chim007azo
@chim007azo 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an uncorrected error increase desirability, but sure, it’s a theory.
@Layjus123
@Layjus123 9 ай бұрын
I like Prismatic Nightmares' art but these 4/5 card sales being $30 plus is too expensive. Wizards should cut that price in half and make basic land sales contain at least ten of each land type.
@darzog666
@darzog666 9 ай бұрын
Amonkhet Invocations: "People say we are illegible." Secret Lairs" "Hold my beer."
@rumissile
@rumissile 9 ай бұрын
I bought the Yargle thinking it was a Yargle and Multani and only realising after that it wasn't I guess I'm building a Krarkashima deck now
@aquakong4276
@aquakong4276 9 ай бұрын
HEY NOW Nemoy bein' a weirdo is godly treasure and the comparison was ignoble!
@adastic
@adastic 9 ай бұрын
I wonder how the rating would change if some of these low value lairs were priced at 20/25 instead, or having full playsets of the cards, and how that might show how wizards cares about the optics of these are. That might strengthen the argument that wizards looks at the secondary market, but still
@SomeYouTubeTraveler
@SomeYouTubeTraveler 9 ай бұрын
[wipes blood from eyes] Egad, my eyeballs haven't hurt this bad since the Amonkhet Invocations
@brockmckelvey7327
@brockmckelvey7327 9 ай бұрын
Why didn't they call "The Beauty of the Beasts" just "Art Series: Rowynn Ellis"? Oh, it's because there's 5 cards, instead of the Art Series max of 4.
@dragonknite314
@dragonknite314 9 ай бұрын
Brian Kibler😂
@TheSorrowfulGod
@TheSorrowfulGod 9 ай бұрын
I will be trying to get my hands on that scheming symmetry reprint though
@lordspaz88
@lordspaz88 9 ай бұрын
Proxy the cards, it is *ALWAYS* morally justified
@ramen-numerals
@ramen-numerals 9 ай бұрын
I ended up buying the not merfolk karlov precon after watching your video over the pre cons and it was great! Ended up winning against a real merfolk deck 😂, thoroughly surprised with how good it was after just a few quick upgrades
@noisepoIIution
@noisepoIIution 9 ай бұрын
Cereal 2: Electric Boogaloo
@Dikarika
@Dikarika 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I got cereal 2 because I like the look and the price/value was decent enough.
@jemm113
@jemm113 9 ай бұрын
I got it because Krark/Sakashima is my cEDH deck 😂 Plus I wanted another copy of the Quandrix twins (maybe for a brew of Slime Against Humanity lol)
@natedawg6755
@natedawg6755 9 ай бұрын
I actually do use a dire undercurrents signed by the artist, I discovered it one day while upgrading my wilhelt zombie precon and it felt perfect with the blue and black card draw and making opponents lose cards, I was on tcg ordering cheaper "damaged" cards, and ended up with a really cool signed copy of a very underused card, which I thought was awesome i got a cheap underused card and it happened to be signed by the original artist as I always value collectibles like that and would never have thought I would get one so cheaply and simply binned as "damaged" on tcg player
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