Magic: The Gathering's Most Broken Card Combos

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@Casual_BackPacking
@Casual_BackPacking Ай бұрын
Stella wild card has some broken combos
@pharmacistjudge
@pharmacistjudge Ай бұрын
Flash Hulk gets dirtier as time went on. LOTR Samwise Gamgee, Caldron Familiar, Viscera Seer is a 4 Mana win and then you get 2 free mana to stop interaction as you see fit. If it is your turn, you can use Grand Abolisher which stops practically all interaction your opponent could have.
@aliismat543
@aliismat543 Ай бұрын
I run this exact set up in my Thalia and the Gitrog monster deck. Super handy when your commander can sack the Hulk!.
@supersmashseandx1991
@supersmashseandx1991 Ай бұрын
Legit thought the sponsor was going to be Morgan and Morgan. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad disappointed
@TattyBojangles81
@TattyBojangles81 Ай бұрын
More like Markov's and Manors
@QjoWilwolf
@QjoWilwolf Ай бұрын
Shoutout to the Commander combos: Heliod + Ballista, Triskelion + Mikaeus, Lethal Vapors + Teferi's Protection, Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood
@AtriumXP666
@AtriumXP666 Ай бұрын
and Karn, the Great Creator + Mycosynth Lattice LOL
@Link71386
@Link71386 Ай бұрын
Exquisite Blood + Vito, Thorn Of The Dusk Rose
@QjoWilwolf
@QjoWilwolf Ай бұрын
@@Link71386 Vito is just a Sanguine Bond on a body, at the end of the day =P
@Link71386
@Link71386 Ай бұрын
@@QjoWilwolf Yes, I know. It's easier to reanimate than an enchantment.
@ThisIsACommanderChannel
@ThisIsACommanderChannel Ай бұрын
Just a little note, the Legend Rule doesn't have you sacrifice the objects that you don't keep. They are simply put into the Gtaveyard. If you controlled a Korvald, it wouldn't trigger if you Legend Ruled a creature away.
@theaamanable
@theaamanable Ай бұрын
Incorrect, quick google search says that the second copy is indeed sacrificed
@charlessmith208
@charlessmith208 Ай бұрын
Nah, he’s right. Rule 704.5j. 704.5j If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are controlled by the same player, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.” Note that put into graveyard is distinct from sacrifices, but not from dies. You would still get leaves the battlefield triggers.
@thorbalt1
@thorbalt1 Ай бұрын
@@charlessmith208 except on arena, which is made, owned and run by wizards, you sac the extra. As such, its a sac and not a put, per the creators of the game
@mordechai9644
@mordechai9644 Ай бұрын
@@thorbalt1 arena isnt the best way to learn the rules of magic
@ThisIsACommanderChannel
@ThisIsACommanderChannel Ай бұрын
@@theaamanable Sorry, but that quick Google search is incorrect. I've been a Magic judge since 1999. If you can let me know where you found that answer then maybe I can reach out to the person who wrote the article or whatever and hopefully get the page updated to contain the right info so that players don't get confused.
@patrickridenour6546
@patrickridenour6546 Ай бұрын
I like that while you were discussing the key//vault combo, you had the card "key to the vault" in the background
@user-sc8xt7fh7o
@user-sc8xt7fh7o Ай бұрын
Nah bro you be killing me not including reverberate and second breakfast. What is more powerful than a second second breakfast?
@Anatak2222
@Anatak2222 Ай бұрын
I don't think the Professor has heard of second second breakfast user-sc8xt7fh7o.
@zakmaniscool
@zakmaniscool Ай бұрын
@@Anatak2222 What about brunch? Elvensies? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper?
@benjaminloyd6056
@benjaminloyd6056 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't count on it
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood 2 күн бұрын
Second Breakfast was a combo deck that I used to play, it just took so long to combo off and played the whole deck...
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx Ай бұрын
The Flash Hulk combo I'm more familiar with is the Disciple of the Vault version. Though honestly, they're all instant wins so it doesn't really matter.
@Interrobang212
@Interrobang212 Ай бұрын
It's crazy because Hulk keeps getting better over the years because you can do it with less colors. BG Hulk is honestly a pretty solid cEDH deck.
@xChikyx
@xChikyx Ай бұрын
my version won by giving a token of Phage to each opponent lol they should have banned proteanhulk instead of flash in commander tho
@FearOgre
@FearOgre Ай бұрын
@@xChikyx lol no
@TheSpiritombsableye
@TheSpiritombsableye Ай бұрын
​@@xChikyx, Flash is turn 0 even without Program Hulk. Both cards can make new cards better but Flash could make them broken.
@xChikyx
@xChikyx Ай бұрын
@@TheSpiritombsableye i Know, but protean hulk is what makes the combo, when It was banned, flash wasn't a problem
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege Ай бұрын
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@TheSimmus
@TheSimmus Ай бұрын
Atog + Fling A combo so powerful they banned Atog in Pauper. I miss my smiley gremlin
@BenchForAllTheMarbles
@BenchForAllTheMarbles Ай бұрын
Don't forget, Professor: you can tutor up Thassa's Oracle, Blood Pet or Wild Cantor, and Spellseeker. Thassa's Oracle triggers at the bottom of the stack, followed by Spellseeker. Spellseeker tutors Demonic Consultation, which you can cast by sacrificing the Pet/Cantor. Yes, the #1 most powerful combo in MtG's history can lead into the #3 most powerful combo in MtG's history.
@BenchForAllTheMarbles
@BenchForAllTheMarbles Ай бұрын
This was what finally got Flash banned in Commander, btw.
@Tyler-Clark
@Tyler-Clark Ай бұрын
I've only been playing MTG for about 3 months and these are crazy. For me the 2-card combo of Bloodletter of Aclazotz and Rush of Dread is pretty crazy considering it wouldn't matter if your opponent has 301k hp, they're still dead.
@richardsmith9615
@richardsmith9615 Ай бұрын
It's dumb and a testament to poor design.
@snood4743
@snood4743 20 күн бұрын
Bruvac the Grandiloquent plus Traumatize lets you do the same 1/2 x 2 shenanigans with milling instead of damage. Wizards of the Coast thankfully didn’t put that combo into standard at least, lol.
@VolvoxSocks
@VolvoxSocks Ай бұрын
Just general shout out to Solemnity. Also allows for Dark Depths to pop on Etb, allows for infinite mana with Devoted Druid, shenanigans with Persist/Undying, immunity to life loss with Phyrexian Unlife. I don't think any of them are as innately strong as the stuff on this list, but just a lot of neat stuff.
@seanobrien5350
@seanobrien5350 Ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of "Oops! All Spells" which is a variant of the thassa's oracle combo: play any kind of fast mana to ramp into ballustrade spy, mill your whole library because you don't run any lands, get 3 Narcomoeba to sac to dread return targeting thassa's oracle. Less powerful than demonic consultation, but you don't need to rely on drawing the thassa's oracle because you get it out of the graveyard.
@freya3217
@freya3217 Ай бұрын
and with protean hulk/summoning pact you can do it turn 0 despite flash being gone lol, i used to have a very dumb turn 0 oops all spells that used lab maniac instead of oracle EDIT: wait, summoner's pact just puts it into your hand, it's been so long... oh well, it was basically what you're talking about but with a lab maniac lol
@ljlk8583
@ljlk8583 Ай бұрын
yes! I have a pauper deck which is '2 land spy' (usually 1 land but I prefer the consistency of 2 lands). It wins by pulling the 2 lands out of your deck, flipping over your deck with spy, then unearthing dregscape zombies to flashback dread return to bring back lotleth giant. Very fun deck!
@michaelsparks1571
@michaelsparks1571 Ай бұрын
The amount of "I win" creature piles you can build off Hulk really does push it to #1 over Vault/Key imho. In one of my EDH decks, Hulk is mainly used to find Conspicuous Snoop (2) + Boggart Harbinger (3) + Torch Bearer (1). Use Harbinger to put Kiki-Jiki on top of your library. Sac Torch Bearer to give Snoop Haste. Tap Snoop to make copy of Snoop, then Snoop-copy to make Copy of Snoop ad infinitum. Tap last Snoop-copy to make copy of Harbinger. Put Mog Fanatic or Sling-Gang Lieutenant on top of library. Sac every last Snoop and Snoop-copy to put all opponents to 0 life.
@rodzeroher
@rodzeroher Ай бұрын
For me the Tolarian Academy combo decks from combo winter in either the standard or extended version remains the most broken stuff ever, Flash/Hulk can still be stopped with Force of will, tolarian academy decks have so many lines that is basically impossible to stop it two turns in a row.
@DualSwordBesken
@DualSwordBesken Ай бұрын
Can we discuss how for a short time #1 was being used to grab #3 in cEDH? 2 of the most busted combos just hanging out together in a shell of mostly just the strongest control cards legal in commander.
@xChikyx
@xChikyx Ай бұрын
yeah, the RC is a joke
@IcaroMendonca
@IcaroMendonca Ай бұрын
Yeah, Breakfast hulk was probably the strongest version of the deck. It combined hulk's instant speed win and extreme cheap cost with ThOracle's narrow counterplay. For people who don't know, here is the combo: Cast flash putting Protean Hulk into play and immediately saccing it to get a Hulk death trigger. Grab Nomads en-Kor, Cephalid Illusionist and Thassa's Oracle from your deck. When they enter the battlefield, Thoracle's trigger goes into the stack, and you activate Nomads en-Kor targeting Cephalid Illusionist. Nomads' ability cost zero and its effect is meaningless, but every time Cephalid is targeted you mill three cards. When you have no cards, and Thoracle trigger resolves, you win. If anybody tries to put literally any game action on the stack proceed to put more Nomads activations on the stack, until you have enough to win anyway. The only way to stop this is either by stifling the Thoracle trigger or by making the person draw a card, but differently from a straight Thassa's Consultation win, you can do it on instant speed, as an answer to someone else's combo. Infact, the way the cEDH meta of its time developed, the only viable way to stop te win was to either counter the Flash, or wait for the hulk to die and ... cast your own flash hulk to win instant speed, with the opponent win on the stack.
@felity1773
@felity1773 Ай бұрын
​@@xChikyx formats like cedh don't need to be overlooked by some arbitrary force as long as they are no "official" mtg sponsored cedh tournaments
@Dtoszi
@Dtoszi Ай бұрын
@@felity1773 considering there now are startings of that with one already now being officially sponsored and others playing for ridiculous amounts of money, the current RC needs to be disbanded and replaced.
@atk9989
@atk9989 Ай бұрын
@@Dtoszi or, cEDH players can stop crying anytime someone suggest splitting it into its own format separate from casual EDH, then you can have your own ban list for your format without it ruining casual decks.
@Trevdawg48
@Trevdawg48 Ай бұрын
What a fun list! There are many other great combos, including Painter-Grindstone and RIP or Leyline Helm.
@Moshinoki
@Moshinoki Ай бұрын
Painter-Grindstone is really cool
@tychoMX
@tychoMX Ай бұрын
That and Helm/Voidwalker are my wildcard choices if I have room in a given build. I like the second one a bit better because the Dauthi Voidwalker is a legitimately good card that’s not dead on its own. But a bit easier to find artifacts so it’s close.
@brycejohnson6234
@brycejohnson6234 Ай бұрын
Great vid as always, Prof. My favorite combo is Heliod Ballista, which I consider to be the second-best combo in cEDH behind Thoracle. Though a bit mana-intensive (9 total, split 3 + 6 over at least 2 turns), having one of the pieces in the command zone really pushes its power level in that format. Combined with White's multiple Silence effects, stax pieces, and artifact tutors, Heliod Ballista is a force to be reckoned with at any cEDH table. We also can't forget that this combo was banned out of Pioneer because of the deck's ability to play a fair midrange game until accidentally winning with a well-timed Ballista.
@Some_Context
@Some_Context Ай бұрын
Heliod Ballista is really bad in cEDH tbh. Sure it'll win you games but you either need to be playing mono white to play it in the CZ (which is probably the second worst color to go mono in) or play it in the 99 which I don't think any decks should realistically do as there are so many better combos (breach lines, dockside loops, food chain loops, etc etc etc etc). I don't think it's even in the running for top 5 one card combos with the commander (with Tivit Time Sieve probably taking #1 in the current meta).
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu Ай бұрын
Heliod Ballista is not even among the top 5 combos in cEDH. Few combos that are straight up better: - BreachFreeze - Thoracle Consult - Dockside + recusion engine like Emiel or Cloudstone + your commander thats an inf mana outlet - Food Chain + Cast-From-Exile creature + casting your commander multiple times with FC mana - Chain of Smog + Witherblood Apprentice - Twinflame + Dualcaster mage or Kiki-Jiki + untapper (inf attackers, so basically the same) - T3feri + Displacer Kitten + mana positive artifact Also, there are commander centric combos that are better, like Tivit + Time Sieve, Najeela + Derevi and Inala + Spellseeker.
@menlockeverquester2303
@menlockeverquester2303 Ай бұрын
My favorite combo was one i accidentally discovered while making my Nekusar deck. I pulled a borderless Bloodchief Ascension, put it into the deck, then my Mindcrank hit the board an im like "wait a minute, this goes infinite. I win 😂" It was probably one of my favorite MTG moments that happened when no one else was around to see it
@janmelantu7490
@janmelantu7490 Ай бұрын
The new Flash-Hulk package is so much tighter than it used to be thanks to LOTR. Samwise Gamgee is 2 mana and says “whenever another nontoken creature enters the battlefield, create a food token”. Cauldron Familiar is 1 mana, drains an opponent for 1 life on etb, and allows you to return it by sacrificing a food. Together with a 1-mana free sac outlet this is literally infinite, and you now have 2 extra mana to include Grand Abolisher to lock your opponent(s) out of interacting. No clone shenanigans needed. This is the main reason Flash went from 5 to 7 points in Canadian Highlander, bringing it in line with other combo cards like Thoracle, Vault, Black Lotus, and Time Walk. Speaking of Time Walk, one of my favorite combos is SeekerWalk. You might think it’s as simple as using Spellseeker to find Time Walk, but to go infinite you need a few extra pieces that are cool. Your first Spellseeker finds Ephemerate, which you then use on seeker to find Walk and take an extra turn. Then you rebound the ephemerate (which now goes to the graveyard) on seeker and find Neoform (birthing pod but it’s a sorcery), then Neoform seeker (3 cmc) into Timeless Witness (a 4 cmc eternal witness), which returns a card from your graveyard to your hand, in this case ephemerate. Then you ephemerate the Witness and bring back Time Walk. Because of rebound, the Ephemerate-Witness-Time Walk loop is infinite turns for only 3 mana each turn, but in formats without Time Walk you can do it with 6 mana instead (using Time Warp or similar)
@IcaroMendonca
@IcaroMendonca Ай бұрын
The version of Flash Hulk that got it banned from cEDH is arguably even stronger, because it doesn't fold to creature removal. Named Breakfast hulk, it was a mix of flash hulk, Thassa's Oracle, and an old combo called Cephalid Breakfast. Here is the combo: Cast flash putting Protean Hulk into play and immediately saccing it to get a Hulk death trigger. Grab Nomads en-Kor, Cephalid Illusionist and Thassa's Oracle from your deck. When they enter the battlefield, Thoracle's trigger goes into the stack, and you activate Nomads en-Kor targeting Cephalid Illusionist. Nomads' ability cost zero and its effect is meaningless, but every time Cephalid is targeted you mill three cards. When you have no cards, and Thoracle trigger resolves, you win. If anybody tries to put literally any game action on the stack proceed to put more Nomads activations on the stack, until you have enough to win anyway. The only way to stop this is either by stifling the Thoracle trigger or by making the person draw a card, but differently from a straight Thassa's Consultation win, you can do it on instant speed, as an answer to someone else's combo. Infact, the way the cEDH meta of its time developed, the only viable way to stop te win was to either counter the Flash, or wait for the hulk to die and ... cast your own flash hulk to win instant speed, with the opponent win on the stack.
@mitchellsidebottom9271
@mitchellsidebottom9271 Ай бұрын
I know this is mostly focused on combos that are incredibly powerful and easy to execute, but there’s some fun infinites that are wincons with some setup that can be responded to. Exquisite Blood/Sanguine Bond: Two 5 cmc enchantments, but once both are on the field, the moment an opponent takes damage, you enter a feedback loop of gain life/lose life that trigger each other until all opponents hit 0 life. Nim Deathmantle/Composite Golem: Infinite Mana of any color. Nim Deathmantle has a triggered ability where you pay 4 to reanimate a creature when it hits the graveyard from the battlefield. Composite golem has a mana ability where you sacrifice it to gain one of each color, for a total of 5; sac for 5, reanimate for 4. Since this is a combo of a mana ability and a triggered ability, it beats most removal spells. Graveyard hate thwarts it though. Slivers have SO MANY! Most are done with Basal Sliver but cards like Morophon, Herald’s Horn, or the First Sliver have some BS as well. Most of these combos can be achieved without them even needing to be the focus of the deck; they just kinda happen. Sliver Queen with Basal Sliver and Heartstone generates infinite slivers with infinite Black. With a haste sliver and a mana sliver you won’t need heartstone. Pulmonic Sliver and Realmwalker with Basal Sliver can let you sac and cast a 2cmc black sliver from the top of your library as often as you want. Cost reducing cards or The First Sliver can enable this feedback loop as well. With Firebelly Sliver having been printed last year you can just passively kill the opponent doing these combos now. I’m still finding Sliver combinations that result in infinite combos just playing them. In mono white you have Famished Paladin, who can infinitely tap if you have a repeatable means of gaining life. Resplendent Mentor keeps him busy. Throw in an Aetherflux Reservoir and you can just nuke your opponents once they’re both ready. Melira lets creatures with Persist die and come back with no cost to you. Murderous Redcap can target itself for infinite ETB or death triggers. If you have another sac outlet just nuke the opponent instead. I have more but this has already become an essay.
@gedtheflayer
@gedtheflayer Ай бұрын
Honorable mentions should probably go to Krark-Clan Ironworks combos, as they abuse KCI's mana ability to pull combo nonsense off in the middle of activating abilities on other cards. The complexity and obscurity of the rules interactions was one of the factors cited in banning KCI.
@Yargle1
@Yargle1 Ай бұрын
Could u make a lore video about the idk top 10 most powerful characters in all of magic? That would be great!
@OnePointSafety
@OnePointSafety Ай бұрын
If I had to guess it would be something like this: 1. Guff 2. Yawgmoth 3. The Ur Dragon 4. Eldrazi Titans 5. Pre-mending Bolas After that I'm not really sure would be pretty debatable
@styfen
@styfen Ай бұрын
Leaving Emrakul off your list eh? She's not on the same level as the other two.
@eddie1993
@eddie1993 Ай бұрын
​@@styfenthey said eldrazi titans as in all 3
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus Ай бұрын
​@@OnePointSafetyI would put Urza at one, but that's a fantastic list.
@Marikk2
@Marikk2 Ай бұрын
Have urza and bolas ever fought? I feel like urza would win.... pre mending bolas got smoked by toshiro
@Googahgee
@Googahgee Ай бұрын
Similar to the Flash Hulk kill, the Hive Mind + Pact kill is really exciting to see. I think it was specifically run in Bloom Titan (before bloom got banned) resulting in some possible super quick kills. Maybe not as powerful, but really cool!
@bizarrum
@bizarrum Ай бұрын
Hi Professor! Great video, as always! I was hoping to see illusions of grandeur + donate, it may not be the best combo as of today, but it was the core of one of the, if not the most, oppresive combo decks of all time, Trix.
@swiftyspike
@swiftyspike Ай бұрын
Really liked this would enjoy seeing some more cedh combos
@NotQuiteAllHere
@NotQuiteAllHere Ай бұрын
I won a few FNM at my local store of the time with red/black infect, using the Immolating Souleater and something like Tainted Strike (as well as a few other methods as backup) to do a Channel Fireball style one-hit infect win combo on turn 3. Was good times.
@charlieawerbuch5352
@charlieawerbuch5352 Ай бұрын
I think that the Hangarback Walker infinite loop deserves some kind of honorable mention. While yes, it is primarily a combo/loop you see in Commander, it is very consistent and fully capable of just ending games from out of nowhere. And there are so many ways to pull it off, with a ton of variants ranging from the Heliod or Mikaeus loop that pings everyone to death, to the Emry loop that generates infinite storm count, to the Sifter of Skulls variant that generates infinite mana, and so many more.
@SkillsByNiels
@SkillsByNiels Ай бұрын
hangarback walker loops?
@anthonydelfino6171
@anthonydelfino6171 Ай бұрын
I think you're thinking of Triskelion/Walking Ballista
@Singe0255
@Singe0255 Ай бұрын
My Flash-less Hulk/Flash deck is still my most consistent Legacy deck. It uses draw/discard effects like careful study to bin the Hulk, then reanimates it with Footsteps of the Goryo or Necromancy to prompt an end of turn sacrifice that starts the combo. Dark rituals, hand disruption, and free counterspells round out the package.
@stevensvoice
@stevensvoice Ай бұрын
I have always loved the Mindcrank - Bloodchief combo. I think its very easy to include in most lists that play swamps. The fact that Bloodchief's can just win, is a decent upside. Probably doesn't meet the criteria you put forth, but I like it. 😊
@ZerohSyks
@ZerohSyks Ай бұрын
I only have one Commander magic deck. But it's a pretty good deck. It's got one combo like you're talking about that would be the Heliod Sun-Crowned, Walking Ballista or Triskelion "it just machine gun pokes everybody at the table to death for one damaged repeatedly". I usually change my commander out to make it harder to get this combo. But on occasion at the local game store there's some folks there that want to play rough.
@Oso-Gaming
@Oso-Gaming Ай бұрын
I particularly like a combo that I found using Reprecussion and Chandra's Incinerator. Any damage dealt to an opponent's creature will trigger Reprecussion which will then trigger Chandra's Incinerator to deal that much damage to a creature that opponent controls. That loops back to triggering Reprecussion and you now have a consistent board clear for your opponents while also pinging them for as much toughness they hand on board. Goblin Sharpshooter can start the combo on each of your opponents boards provided they all have creatures.
@slygore
@slygore Ай бұрын
Probably my favorite AD transition you've done
@theamericanwordsmith2670
@theamericanwordsmith2670 Ай бұрын
I'm not surprised it's not on the list, but Stuffy Doll + Guilty Conscience is one of my favorite combos.
@scottii
@scottii Ай бұрын
Bloodline Keeper + Intruder Alarm. Infinite vampires on your turn. Painter's Servant + Grindstone. Instant win, possibly on first turn if you have the correct set up.
@AnonymousHuman-ku5wh
@AnonymousHuman-ku5wh Ай бұрын
Not instant. You still need to go to their draw step.
@scottii
@scottii Ай бұрын
@@AnonymousHuman-ku5whI've won with this combo card in tournaments many years ago. It is instant. You just need to have Painter's Servant in play first. The color doesn't matter and could be a completely different color in the opponent's deck. Grindstone: Target player mills two cards. If two cards that share a color were milled this way, repeat this process. Painter's Servant: As Painter's Servant enters the battlefield, choose a color. All cards that aren't on the battlefield, spells, and permanents are the chosen color in addition to their other colors.
@Interrobang212
@Interrobang212 Ай бұрын
@@scottii they dont lose the game by having an empty library. They lose by going to draw a card with an empty library. Players will usually concede before they get to that draw step, but on rare occasions they may try to sneak the win with what they have in hand/ in play.
@17Tomtac
@17Tomtac Ай бұрын
Probably not the most broken, but I've always been a big fan of "Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank" combo. Especially because the way I discovered it was by inadvertently putting it in a deck, lending said deck to a friend, and then having them teach me the combo by abruptly obliterating my life total with it :D
@Theorak
@Theorak Ай бұрын
Honorable mention for me would be all the Devoted Druid plus preventing counters combos. Had various cards added too it in the past, but sometimes a splash in Standard and Modern. It's wild how far Flash got and Hulk just got to enjoy it so long.
@giantninja9173
@giantninja9173 Ай бұрын
I love how I cracked the thassa’s oracle combo in minutes, never had a chance to prove it, then later heard it’s one of the most powerful win cons ever
@brailleeulogy120
@brailleeulogy120 Ай бұрын
I liked Enduring renewal, Goblin Bombardment, and Ornithropter.
@AgentMurphy286
@AgentMurphy286 Ай бұрын
I’m partial to the Mana Geyser-Reiterate loop followed up with Comet Storm. Or the Curiosity and Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind/Niv-Mizzet, Parunn combo. They’re not near the levels of being broken as this list, but I enjoy them.
@isaacbuddy
@isaacbuddy Ай бұрын
One of my favorite combo pieces, and one I'm sure Prof appreciates too, is Deeproot Pilgrimage. I love it because it can win in other ways than just making infinite merfolk. Wanderwine Prophets makes infinite turns, Drowner of Secrets and Intruder Alarm mills everyone, Mutavault and Intruder Alarm makes infinite colorless mana, there's a couple merfolk that tap to ping, and it really makes Kumena do his thing.
@Qaos
@Qaos 17 күн бұрын
One of my favourite combos, though it's not nearly powerful enough for this list, is one I love for how janky it is. First, you have any creature that can be tapped this turn and a way to untap it (my personal favourite is activated abilities with untapping in the cost) Then, you play Ashaya to make that creature a Forest land. Then you just enchant that creature so it taps for more mana than it costs to untap it, and you now have infinite mana. This combo can be even more fun when the creature is something like Hateflayer or Duergar Mine-Captain, since those can win you the game without even needing the infinite mana.
@felipimacedo
@felipimacedo Ай бұрын
I remember that I used to play demonic consultation in a crazy storm deck in a non-format friends group (it was a backup win con with lab maniac), and at that time nobody in my area knew about that card lol
@clasherking4528
@clasherking4528 Ай бұрын
I discovered an interesting interaction in Jeski when I was first getting into commander Have noyan, dar roil shaper and Jeski ascendency on the field and cast haze of rage stack the triggers so that noyan dar turns your lands into creatures then have Jeski ascendency untap them and now you have infinite mana because of the buyback ability on haze of rage (it's an expensive and hard to pull off combo but it's fun when it works, throw in some cards like archmage ameritus or something else that can draw you cards for casting spells, and lab man and win the game
@cax1175
@cax1175 Ай бұрын
That was one hell of a stretch to the ad lol but nice prof
@verylongclaw4428
@verylongclaw4428 8 күн бұрын
One of my favorite combos... Play a Mountain, Cast Cacophony Scamp; Pass turn. Next turn Play a Plains, tap Mountain for Colossus Hammer. Swing for 1, Tap Plains play Resolute Strike, Attach the Hammer and get +2+2. Hits for 13, Sac The Scamp for an additional 13. 26 damage turn 2.
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood 2 күн бұрын
There's another Flash Hulk combo: 4 Disciple of the Vault and as many X cost artifact creatures like Phyrexian Marauder and Shifting Wall (and newer options like Stonecoil Serpent or Walking Ballista) as you want. You can play all of the X cost artifact creatures you want, since they add nothing to the total mana value, and since x is 0 they enter without counters, immediately die, triggering all of the Disciple. 5 of them give you 20 damage, 4 if the 5th card is another death trigger effect like Blood Artist, and unlike the Carrion Feeder combo it just happens, no loop to play out.
@aluvayadur7862
@aluvayadur7862 Ай бұрын
not super related but I really did love the segue into the sponsored message XD
@tastybouillon
@tastybouillon Ай бұрын
I didn't read all 310+ comments but has no one mentioned *Exquisite Blood +Sanguine Bond* ?! I'm not a huge fan of playing mono black OR Orzhov personally but there's a few different creatures that could be used for one of the pieces of this combo. So many options to get the cards into play quickly/efficiently , even in Commander. If you're playing Orzhov you can double down and add another game winning combo with *Teysa, Orzhov Scion + Darkest Hour + Blasting Station* I even added this one to my (whatever you prefer to call) White/Black/Green, Insects "Death by a 1000 Bites" commander deck.
@ginov.7039
@ginov.7039 Ай бұрын
Yes the Teysa combo is my favorite
@tastybouillon
@tastybouillon Ай бұрын
@@ginov.7039 it's definitely effective. A lot of people don't see it coming and the pieces alone aren't huge threats they'd want to waste removal spells on.
@Protanly
@Protanly Ай бұрын
If you’re at the point where you want a two card combo in mono black, there are better options. Professor Onyx for instance goes infinite with Chain of Smog as you target yourself and recast infinitely until the table dies, also takes 2 cards, and is 2 mana cheaper. It also doesn’t require you to need a way to start the life gain/loss chain.
@mattpk1609
@mattpk1609 10 күн бұрын
I feel Urzas Saga is mentioned in every other of your videos. What a card.
@Hundo_Mo
@Hundo_Mo Ай бұрын
Dies to removal
@AnonymousMaykr
@AnonymousMaykr Ай бұрын
The Time Vault erratas are very funny, worth a read @14:38
@shivatrance
@shivatrance Ай бұрын
Mind over Mana and Recurring Survival are my favorite broken combos from the past. The fact that Recurring Nightmare is banned in Commander still shows the power of the card.
@kevinwestermann1001
@kevinwestermann1001 Ай бұрын
It shows more how slow the CAG is than how strong Recurring Nightmare is.
@slayerofthebuzz1
@slayerofthebuzz1 Ай бұрын
IllusionsDonate was pretty good in its heyday, and Slaver lock is worth a mention; but my favorite combo is one that isn't very good or consistent and is very fragile and even salty: Chronatog, Orb of Dreams, Stasis - skip all your turns, sleep for eternity, win by not playing.
@anthonydelfino6171
@anthonydelfino6171 Ай бұрын
Similarly, this was a combo I used in commander in a Zedruu deck + Venser the Sojurner He's one of the few effects in the game that allows you to exile something you own (as opposed to control) then return it to play under your control. In the multiplayer environment it meant you could cast the enchantment to gain 20, use Zedruu to donate it, flicker it with Venser to make your opponent lose 20, then have the enchantment enter again under your control gaining you another 20 life. And you could repeat that every turn so long as you could protect Venser
@Robshi
@Robshi Ай бұрын
I remember playing a Cube Draft where I opened with a huge mana advantage setup, only for my opponent to cast Channel followed by Emrakul, the Aeons Torn.
@Tylur308
@Tylur308 Ай бұрын
I’ve never commented on a KZbin video before. But I had to give my input here. I play a somewhat dragon deck in commander, and I surprisingly get a healthy amount of wins with this silly combo I have in it. Worldgorger Dragon (in graveyard) + Animate dead = infinite basic land mana Then use Animate Dead on Inferno of the star mounts and buff it with all the mana! (Because it has haste, it can attack no problem) Out of a 99 card deck, I shockingly get these cards in my graveyard often. Definitely a counter-able combo, but it’s pretty fun to pull off.
@Sipulih
@Sipulih Ай бұрын
Stasis Combo remains one of my absolute favorites (Chronatog+Root Maze+Stasis), its such a funny way to win the game. I think Trix needed a honorary mention tho kinda (Illusions of Grandeur+Donate) or the first top modern deck with the Stroke of Genius over-draw.
@thesarcasticliberal
@thesarcasticliberal Ай бұрын
In EDH, I would bring in a favorite of mine--Bloodchief's Ascension + Mindcrank. Ascension is just an amazing card on its own, and Mindcrank is an easy include to tutor up once the Ascension is active.
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu Ай бұрын
Ascension already does so much damage, that including a useless card like Mindcrank is not really needed. You can achieve almost the same effect with a Wheel of Fortune or a board wipe.
@fullmetaldovahkiin
@fullmetaldovahkiin Ай бұрын
My favorite combo is casting Niv Mizzet and enchanting it with Curiosity (or something along that line) if I spent the game building up my battlefield with double damage enchantments like Furnace of Rath and a few others each card drawn does damage exponentially. I personally like it because since it's limited to how many cards are in my deck it isn't infinite which feels more...idk...fair? Especially if I'm playing with a big group
@chrishiggins2651
@chrishiggins2651 Ай бұрын
That ad setup was great😂
@HangerHangar
@HangerHangar Ай бұрын
The cheapest price wise is Krakclan Ironworks, 2x Myr Retriever, and Disciple of the Vault. Just need to buy two starter decks for that infinite combo. (there's probably cheaper, but this was playground achievable, which is an achievement in itself). The "starter"/"planeswalker"/"introductory" deck infinite combo video would probably be pretty funny as well.
@SeraphRyan
@SeraphRyan Ай бұрын
similar to splinter twin - Kiki Jiki does the same thing for 1 more mana. I have used that a fewt times, not with pestermite, but with restoration angel (its my secret win con for my Kaalia commander deck)
@AscendtionArc
@AscendtionArc Ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Any chance of a jank combo episode. I'm partial to all the tricks you can do with Wall of Blood, or Wall of Shards, or changeling human-werewolves, or Pariah.
@pops91
@pops91 Ай бұрын
Other than the combos mentioned other combos that come to mind is emrakul sneak attack or tooth and nail into makeas and triskelion
@Redcoat86
@Redcoat86 23 күн бұрын
I’m a fan of tainted remedy + beacon of immortality. Not only ko’s a player but you can do it again and again as beacon shuffles into your deck. Not as strong as the ones in this video but can come out of nowhere if remedy is played early/resolves and no one is the wiser. It’s fairly tame on its own and doesn’t scream “remove me”.
@tychoMX
@tychoMX Ай бұрын
I am old, so honourable mention to the Necropotence obscenities definitely would make it for me. Heliod/Ballista, Breakfast, and the all spells variants too (those seem more fragile to me but still very busted).
@Nicechimicha2
@Nicechimicha2 Ай бұрын
Leyline of the void and helm of obedience was crazy to see for the first time!
@willowscott3508
@willowscott3508 Ай бұрын
A slept on EDH combo (bc it's a bs amount of mana, unless you know how to ramp or cheese it somehow): Dynaheir, Invoker Adept + (any copy creature/permanent) + Door to Nothingness. Create a copy of Dynaheir, Tap both Dynaheirs to copy 4+ cost mana abilities twice, like Door to Nothingness' double wubrg mana ability, "Target player loses the game", now the non-copied Door + 2 copies make all 3 opponents lose.
@bamjo9
@bamjo9 Ай бұрын
Nailed, I would choose these 5 too. I would also do an honorable mention to karn + mycosynth lattice, since it is worse than all these combos (4+7 mana), but it is literally a 1 card combo
@TheWeissrond
@TheWeissrond Ай бұрын
I have fond memories of tolarian academy/mind over matter/braingeyser. Chuck in candelabra and some artifact ramp to make it really absurd. Never killed turn 1 but turn 3 wasn't uncommon.
@stefankuschmierz297
@stefankuschmierz297 Ай бұрын
It’s funny because almost all those cards are included in a vintage cube. So they are kinda legal in at least one format. You just need to be lucky and draft the right cards. Thassa‘s Oracle also pairs nice with Doomsday. It’s always fun to see LSV agonizing his opponents with those combos. Still I think in a cube format those combos are absolutely fine.
@kevinwestermann1001
@kevinwestermann1001 Ай бұрын
Cube isn't a format, though.
@darksteelmenace595
@darksteelmenace595 Ай бұрын
Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame (or the new Molten Duplication) is almost good enough to make the list I think, with a seething song and a Spiritguide you can put it out turn 2 (or maybe even turn 1 with an additional lotus petal) and then you just win. Pretty overlooked too, if you ask me.
@TheMasasame
@TheMasasame Ай бұрын
My favourite combo is with Mizzix of the Izmagnus. With at least 6 experience counters and 4 red mana, you cast Electrodominance where X=6, then while its on the stack cast Reiterate with the Buyback. Reiterate resolves, goes back to your hand, resolve the copy of Electrodominance, dealing 6 damage to something and casting Reiterate for free from the copy. Repeat till satisfied.
@dashkataey1740
@dashkataey1740 Ай бұрын
I always think of Saheeli combo when I think combos. Not because it's stupid powerful but because of the banning of felidar guardian so quickly after release.
@misterdoctor9693
@misterdoctor9693 Ай бұрын
Also that they printed them in the same set so it was briefly standard legal.
@whosilence
@whosilence Ай бұрын
My pet peeve with Thoracle is that I've had my eyes on consultation for YEARS and right when I was thinking "I should by one" it made it spike way and I mean WAY beyond reason
@ZombieExpert115
@ZombieExpert115 Ай бұрын
Another tolaria state combo video would be most appreciated.
@nickw7235
@nickw7235 Ай бұрын
I like this combo. It doesn’t hold a candle to these but Rosie cotton and scurry oak hit the spot for me!
@abc_def-55
@abc_def-55 Ай бұрын
Thought of Flash Hulk immediately when I saw the video, it's nuts. :) Bit surprised to see Grindstone (banned in modern) + Painter's Servant, two colorless card combo that mills target players whole deck, didn't get a mention.
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu Ай бұрын
Combo's that fold to creature removal < combo's that don't
@abc_def-55
@abc_def-55 Ай бұрын
@@B1gLupu True.
@AtriumXP666
@AtriumXP666 Ай бұрын
Leyline of the Void + Helm of Obedience, though :p Sadly, both of these tactics only sets up to kills one player at a time
@wheredango
@wheredango Ай бұрын
personally, I like Kiora's Chosen with a Freed From The Real. put a Fertile Ground on an island, and that's infinate mana, as well as infinate untap a permanent! I have a deck based on that, with things like Archavist, Disruptive Pitmage, and Experimental Kraj.
@StellaDallas88
@StellaDallas88 Ай бұрын
wow that add was fantastic. a masterpiece. I will legit listen to that multiple times lol
@pitshants132
@pitshants132 Ай бұрын
I love the outro music so much
@jondargel1496
@jondargel1496 Ай бұрын
My favorite combo that i like running is any ping niv combo. Miv mizzet, firemind or Parun, and ophidian eye/curiosity :)
@kiwi_commander
@kiwi_commander Ай бұрын
My favorite combo is Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bond and I run both of these in my Liesa Lifegain/Stax commander deck. They are expensive enchantments, fantastic alone and even better together. All you need once you have both out is to gain some life and you immediately win the game, the best part is that you can trigger life gain by playing a gain life land like Scoured Barrens. And your opponent's cannot respond to land drops!
@bob101021
@bob101021 Ай бұрын
I avoid the combo in my commander deck running astarion cuz people get so salty when I play it but I also love it. Commander players are too salty
@joshrobinson2409
@joshrobinson2409 19 күн бұрын
One of my favorite combos to pull off in commander is necrotic ooze with triskelion and pyrexian devouerer in the graveyardthe ooze gets the activated ablities of both and i can kill everyone by exiling my deck and killing everyone with the counters on the ooze. Great thing is that its a hard to interact with combo as if anyone decides to do anything to the ooze i can pit a bunch of activations on the stack and have them resolve before the interaction
@huddleaw
@huddleaw 7 күн бұрын
My favorite game winning combo in Standard was Sphinx's Revelation, followed up by Sphinx's Revelation. The game was over, but they just didn't know it yet 😂
@lefloidNemesis
@lefloidNemesis 22 күн бұрын
I would even argue that the thassa combo is more powerfull then hulk, at least in cedh, since it can be part of your hulk package win (blood pet + oracle + spellseeker that searches consultation) which reduces the amount of deadraws since those cards are also hood if you draw them, with the exception of blood pet, although even that one has it's uses. Although nothing beats timevault as it's pretty assuredly the strongest combo in unrestricted cedh, thanks to our bird tactician friend
@PsychedelicSlayer88
@PsychedelicSlayer88 Ай бұрын
So, this is a different interpretation of the word "broken" but I've always loved seeing the expression on people's faces the first time they encounter Eye of the Storm + Shahrazad
@Vile_Vilhelm
@Vile_Vilhelm Ай бұрын
I always liked using Time Sieve and Thopter Assembly in commander. I've built decks that focused on getting time sieve out and having enough cheap artifacts to power until I get a win con.
@B1gLupu
@B1gLupu Ай бұрын
You don't need Thopter Assembly if you just play Tivit as your commander.
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks Ай бұрын
Carrion feeder is great! I really like the little guy.
@sirpotatolord2219
@sirpotatolord2219 Ай бұрын
not stupid broken or anything but i found a very fun commander combo with agent frank horrigan and railway breaker from thunder junction, railway breaker says whenever a creature other than it enters the battlefield it get +1/+1 counters equal to it's power, so you you plot away railway breaker til you have a haste enabler and one other way to proliferate cards, then you cast railway breaker for zero and cast frank horrigan wo says when this card enters the battle field or attacks proliferate twice. frank will enter, get 8 +1/+1 counters then proliferate those counters to 10, add your haste enabler and swing at an open player he proliferate twice again to 12 giving him a total commander hit of 20, activate your additional proliferate engine (I recommend plaguemaw beast sacrificing the railway breaker to avoid spending more mana) and you now have a one turn 21 damage swing for game or at the very least a very massive commander hit since frank has trample built into him.
@CrimsonInquisitioner
@CrimsonInquisitioner Ай бұрын
well my favorite 2 card combo is Xenagos, God of Rebels and Emrakul the Aeons Torn, since i only need to cast a Tooth and Nail with entwine (and i only need 1 of each and not even in hand), and it is easily doable in Tron, since it is easily "hidable" because i play the usual tron and from out of nowhere, a 30/30 flying with haste and annihilator 6 comes your way you panic and on sideboard I have Iona, shield of emeria and painter's servant
@PulpFiction8686
@PulpFiction8686 Ай бұрын
So, for its time, I'd put the Trix deck Illusions of Grandeur + Donate up there back when Extended was still a format. It was SOO dominant. Now, not as broken as the others on the list, but given the card pool you had to draw from, it was just nasty, and so consistent with multiple forms of protection back in .... 2003 or 04?? It's been a while but my buddy loaned me the deck and I went to a PTQ and took 2nd place out of .... 300-400 players with no knowledge of the format and maybe 4 hours of goldfishing the deck. The only games I lost were on me, and I actually played the mirror in the finals and should have won but .... I misplayed multiple times not knowing the format. It was so strong.
@jamesfrog2624
@jamesfrog2624 Ай бұрын
I think Amalia and wildgrowth walker in pioneer is cool combo. I don't know if it's uber broken but it seems good on paper
@TezzerethPrime
@TezzerethPrime Ай бұрын
I just remember playing Niv-Mizzet for the first time against friend in EDH and he hadn't know the dragon yet, and I got Niv and Curiosity off on them, and I just got the dirtiest look. He asked me not to do that again. So then the next game I Ophidian Eye.. He asked me not to use that deck anymore.
@ridleykiller93
@ridleykiller93 Ай бұрын
I used to do the Niv + Ophidian Eye combo in standard back in those days. Never won a game when it mattered. But man it was a fun time. Especially using Gelectrodes with Ophidian Eye as a way to dig through my deck.
@Eramiserasmus
@Eramiserasmus Ай бұрын
Professor giving us the combos that need to be assessed in comparison to Splinter Twin.
@xileets
@xileets Ай бұрын
Nord VPN: I don't want my friends, or ANYone, to know I'm looking up winter orb...
@PatKVoiceActor
@PatKVoiceActor Ай бұрын
The detective mechanic should have been in New Capenna. Although it was a fun set to play in Sealed League.
@CHADnarok
@CHADnarok Ай бұрын
Personal favorite combo right now is Niv-Mizzet Parun, Curiosity, and Psychosis Crawler
@composite_0
@composite_0 Ай бұрын
I would love a video of The Professors FAVORITE combos
@1norwood1
@1norwood1 Ай бұрын
Vengevine + Survival of the Fittest broke legacy for a while. I remember it being extremely consistant and you could either win by attacking for lethal or if they had something like moat in their deck you could combo kill with infinite triskellon damage.
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