Oathbreaker Is Broken | How To Make It Work Again | A Magic The Gathering Official Commander Variant

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

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[@sigriftrap8425]

Minsc and Boo is broken by itself, even without signature spell. Any signature spell makes it even worse.

[@jeremygernhaelder8783]

Is it still possible to get products from your previous kick starter? I just learned of the Double Academic today and it is too beautiful for me to pass up on (when I can afford one 😂)... Thanks in advance Professor❤

[@fallenangel8X]

Hey professor. Who do I have to talk to about an issue with the academic kickstarter? I ordered one of the 133 and a 266 but ended up getting two 133s. I emailed miniature market but am still waiting on a response. Hoping to get this resolved soon. P.S. Other than that everything is great. Top notch quality in all regards.

[@obadijahparks]

Was it worth it?... yes. Barely. It should have been 100.00$.

[@sifins1579]

@@sigriftrap8425 it really really is, it's banned in every duel commander format, even archon where the players vote on the bans

[@bobrashley5936]

Finding other players is my main Oathbreaker challenge.

[@japoniano]

Me too, what a coincidence!

[@laurisjones]

Y'all should play oathbreaker together!

[@japoniano]

@@laurisjones lol! I'll accept free airplane tickets and lodging if anyone wants to help.

[@joncheek2413]

Same, I just turned my Kiora deck into 100 card and ask if I can play commander. I don't get to play it much

[@ericmartin6388]

Jon, that's basically what I did with my Kiora oathbreaker too. Although I still have several oathbreaker decks, I just can't convince my regular playgroup to embrace it.

[@devanbrowne8706]

Prof: "Here's some fun interactive decks to keep Oathbreaker exciting but not broken." Also Prof: "We're going to exploit cantrips and Storm to mill our whole deck in one turn and win the game."

[@braydenmcdaniel5319]

Tbf, combos are the best wincon in multiplayer free for all. Combat damage draws more attention to you, and so combos insulate you from that unwanted attention. Also counterspells and instant speed removal do exist.

[@SwedeRacerDC]

It's probably the most broken of the decks he mentioned, but it still could be a little more on the playable side

[@LachyDachySachy]

He could just play Ral and fork

[@NecromancyForKids]

@@braydenmcdaniel5319 Yay! I need to play black or blue to have a chance of winning!

[@Thewallace7347]

​@@NecromancyForKids all colors have very easy ways to stop combos in general

[@matthewkuehne4382]

"... and also because they cost too much." will live rent-free in my mind forever. I am still cackling 😆

[@SirKrrrapsalot]

I remember the greatest trick ever pulled on an oathbreaker pod. There was a Jace, Wielder of Mysteries paired with Treasure Hunt that just played as a mono blue control list, using the hunt to always refuel into something to do. One day they came in with the same deck and played super reserved for every game. Finally after holding on to their Oathbreaker for a round and making no enemies cast Treasure Hunt turn 5 to reveal the entire deck was Islands the whole time, winning the game.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

That’s funny even if it’s just a one off.

[@thomasjefferson5227]

I'd love to see Oathbreaker on Shuffle Up. Like best of 3 games.

[@bayanimanansala5220]

Oathbreaker is thriving in our LGS. What we learned is there is nothing too broken. If the combo is too obvious, you get focused down really fast. 20 life is not enough to survive a 3 pronged assault.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

This is so true! That is how the Izzet player went down in our Oathbreaker competition. They bragged about how they had a infinite combo with their Planeswalker and Signature spell and proceeded to get crushed by the other 3 players before they could do anything and than they left in a salty huff, haven't seen them since at FNM. Good riddance if your going to get that annoyed ;P LOL

[@xxhellspawnedxx]

With only 20 life, how do you manage aggressive go-wide decks that just ignores their commanders altogether and just goes face from turn 1?

[@warldworZ]

@@xxhellspawnedxx I haven't played the format but I'm guessing it runs into the same issue as aggro commander decks. You might be able to kill one, maybe two players with a low to the ground aggressive strategy, but the remaining player(s) will have a lot of time to build up their board or wipe yours in that time-frame.

[@m1gr3nA]

@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 how many games were in that sample? i had all the cards for ral deck so i put it together for a test and in four games total i dropped one to opponents having multiple counters. this decks averages slightly below turn 3 so its hard for aggro to do much unless its very low curve and those builds (as mentioned) manage to kill one player and run out of steam and get killed by remaining two. people dont play such decks. i disassembled the deck afterwards to try something more interesting. i ported legacy d&t to oathbreaker since i cannot play those cards in commander.

[@xxhellspawnedxx]

​@@warldworZ I don't know about that tbf. If it were 40 life a piece, or even 30, I'd be inclined to agree, but with 20? I mean, in commander you'd knock one player out pretty comfortably (40 life), and then be hated out by the other two (resource disadvantage 1:2). In Oathbreaker, you'd do the same 40 damage, and you'd have knocked two players out, leaving only one opponent left to deal with you, i.e. no advantage in terms of resources, and your strategy will be steaming along on highest gear at that point. But perhaps the entire format, by necessity, is more reactive than EDH? More removal, more stax, more control effects, to buffer that low life total?

[@jeremy1392]

I think it's Chandra, Acolyte of Flame whose +0 is "put a loyalty counter on each red Planeswalker you control" which I could see pulling a surprising amount of weight.

[@RocketSlug]

When Oathbreaker was first developed I had a blast brewing a Nissa tribal "prolanimate" (proliferate + land animation) deck with Nissa, Steward of Elements. I managed to Deepglow Skate an Everflowing Chalice to 16 charge counters and used it to fund big X spells like Mass Manipulation

[@monkey8886]

omfg, I did the same thing years ago xD

[@ReadySetPainter]

I highly appreciate you still making oathbreaker stuff. Even if its been a while. The format will be great till WotC starts making stuff for just oathbreaker.

[@colescott2111]

Is that a shot at Commander? I'm still kinda new to MTG, only been playing drafts and legacy

[@ReadySetPainter]

@Cole Scott Yes, that's exactly what it was haha. I've been playing commander since it was still EDH. Before their first Commander Decks. And it was a blast. Idk it's lost it charm with all the made for commander stuff thats in the game now. Wizard's is a company who regularly makes bad calls at this point. And I'd hate to see a nother thing get ruined.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

Commander was great when you would find cards in standard that worked for commander. Now it seems like every set and product is low key aimed at commander. So sick of the commander boosters.

[@ReadySetPainter]

@chazzitz-wh4ly Ya, they really ruined it for me. I know my og comment was only 2 months ago, but I have since quit magic... Mostly, anyway. I've been playing for almost 24 years. Since right before 7th ed. My first booster box was, in fact, 7th ed. And wizards with commander killed it. The universe beyond didn't help either. I have a few things left like my pancake cube, and battle box. But I sold everything else. And I'm sad and hurt.

[@Geneo1700]

Grist: fun and original. I loved this guy as a commander and I imagine Oathbreaker is no different Gideon: not broken, but definitely annoying and a good way to lose friends Minsc & Boo: This one is just fun. no messing around, just some good old Gruul aggro Jace: Storm is storm. Enough said Commodore Guff: This is just amazing

[@Technochaos03]

Cosigning on gideon being annoying. I never actually played Oathbreaker because someone in my playgroup built windfall narset and gideon armageddon. The list was more less prof's with destroy all lands in the command zone. Never lost interest in a format so fast.

[@Yammenkow]

Secret Chandra tribal was a great twist

[@DifunctedReble]

This was my take as well. Saw Gideon's third ability and started having Exalted Deeds/Faceless Haven Standard flashbacks. Everything else looked fun to pull off.

[@woodoowooda_yt1713]

well resumed !!

[@ManaPirate]

​​@@Technochaos03 Same thing for me basically. I was really excited to play and created a Kiora/whelming wave deck that just made big sea creatures. And then one of the guys in my playgroup created Dragongod/Elderspell. Never even thought of oathbreaker again

[@kylemelinkovich8675]

Built an oathbreaker deck. Format looked fun. 2 years later never played a single game with it due to no one wanting to build a deck. Dismantled it and switched to Canadian Highlander which has been really easy for people to transition to (since most people can switch an EDH deck to CH). Played in several tourneys, a REALLY fun format.

[@TreetopCanopy]

The way to get players into a collectible game is to put together a playset so no one has to have their own components. This is how a friend of mine got me into Commander and how I got some friends to play Netrunner (another CCG) and Grimdark Future (a miniatures wargame)

[@sudonahm6940]

Huatli, Sun's Heart and Tower defense is fun. Ornithopter and Phyrexian Walker are so terrifying after you've plopped down a Guilded Goose

[@joshuamcrae6819]

I brewd huatli except with dubious challenge and and a few flicker creatures. Its really fun.

[@LoxodonAnchor]

I've built a mono white version with rhystic shield

[@ODIRGO]

Oathbreaker is alive? I didn't even remember it exists.

[@Ellicess]

I haven an Ur-Dragon commander deck with Sarkhan Unbroken, so I just remove cards from it to make it Sarkhan Oathbreaker

[@smegmalasagna]

Forever Young type cards also synergize very well with Grist's +1 ability. Allowing us to create a zillion insect tokens :)

[@lucianheart3727]

Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord with Sorin's Thirst for flavor as the Signature Spell. Mono black vampire tribal was the first deck I ever played in MTG, and so I built this Oathvreaker deck as a sort of homage. No crazy combo with Sorin's thirst (it kinda sucks but FLAVOR,) but most of the power comes from the vampire tribe which is strong.

[@charleshammel8541]

You had me at oathbreaker

[@peepeefart]

Same

[@themantyf1116]

I love how they released Gruff ofr the superplaneswalkers decks and then they took most of the planeswalkers out of the lore, greatly reducing their numbers.

[@drpibisback7680]

Gruff doesn't need more Superfriends, he's got a lot of old walkers to look back to.

[@themantyf1116]

@@drpibisback7680 I know that there are already a lot of superfriends, I just found the tempistic funny.

[@Genxim]

Domri, anarch of Bolas is perfect for violent outburst. It's not a token deck, but a cascade one, into hypergenesis and glimpse of tomorrow, for a lot of big dumb gruul monstrosities

[@mail5408]

List?

[@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy]

I really think Oathbreaker would be better as a RPG campaign rather than a format to play other people in. Make it collaborative, tell a story, it'd probably be a lot more fun than what it is currently. Also, Tiny Leaders is definitely a better variant than Oathbreaker.

[@dread1128]

Thanks for this episode! While my play group is mostly EDH we sometimes throw a game of Oathbreaker in the mix. I have 2 Oathbreaker deck. 1 “broken” 1 “not” so I totally agree that yes, it is super easy to be broken in this format but you don’t have to! Have fun with friends! But feel free to make that broken deck too- never know what decks you may face! ❤

[@Camp_MTG]

I've made dozens of Oathbreaker videos, it's such a fun format! Just try NOT to break it and everyone will have fun! 😊

[@Escartamuz]

Oathbreaker is indeed a very good format! I hope it thrives in lots of tables!

[@FearOgre]

lolol

[@Aerix]

Of the three OB decks I made when it became officially supported, I made Minsc & Boo myself. Absolutely the most fun! I may yet make it a hybrid that i can add 40 cards and play normal commander with it. I went with inspiring call for my sig spell for board protection and further card draw.

[@MagicManCM]

I run a Nissa, of Shadowed Boughs and Awaken the Woods OB deck. Landfall + land creature + self mill based. Pretty fun if a bit slow to start.

[@apexnova2947]

I love these ideas. Personally I would run Ethereal Haze over holy day as the signature spell in the Gideon deck because it stops all creature damage for the turn and you can use the few white splice onto arcane spells if desired.

[@UndergroundSea]

We have been covering the format in our channel since 2019. Simply addicting ^_^ Angrath, the Flame-Chained & Transmogrify is the last deck covered ;-)

[@Icarus9083]

My play group just started playing Oathbreaker last week! i love the format and we've already brewed multiple decks

[@neekitsart990]

These combinations were all so cool and have definitely inspired me to start getting in some oathbreaker games!

[@KierenAmero]

My personal favourite combo is Nissa of Shadowed Boughs with Awaken the Woods as my Sig Spell. It's Landfall Reanimator, and I have had a game with 47 landfall triggers in one turn. When your Sig Spell creates Land Tokens, and Concordant Crossroads is a card, it's easier than expected.

[@djryat4591]

I made a deck with Nissa, who shakes the world and awaken the woods. I called it Nissa, Who Wakes the Woods. I havent had a chance to play it yet but Im super excited to. Best thing about oathbreaker is I can finally run my foil rofellos.

[@KierenAmero]

@@djryat4591 I actually did not realize Rofellos was not banned in Oathbreaker. I may need to add him to my list going forward.

[@djryat4591]

@@KierenAmero yeah check the ban list. Lots of cool things you can play with in this format, including primeval titan. Also a few cards that are banned in it and not banned in commander. Unfortunately sylvan primordial is still banned.

[@MakeVarahHappen]

I think the difference between Oathbreaker and Commander is that the community & products Commander has means you enter the format a certain power level and you only change that power level through group discussion. When I brew for Oathbreaker, I don't feel like I have those on rails so it requires a much more conscious effort to power down.

[@ThjyuGaming]

my play group and i have been playing Oathbreaker alongside commander pretty much 50/50 at this point its so much fun!

[@THENOCK1366]

As someone with Minsc and Boo as their oathbreaker I use Temur Battle Rage as my signature spell

[@mollylong3571]

I use mutagenic growth!

[@Crawver]

Grist the hungering tide is absolutely a broken combo if you want it to be. Run 12 lands (3 swamps, 9 forests) and everything else as insects, and hard mulligan for 2 lands including a forest. You could get it after 1-2 mulligans comfortably. You cast rites of spring on turn 2, discarding 5-7 cards, searching out 5-7 lands, including at least 1 swamp. You have 3-5 lands left in your deck tops, and 5+ cards that should be predominantly be creatures in your discard as well. You then play your swamp, and summon grist. You then activate the first ability, and will mill about 6-8 insects on average before you mill one of your lands. You create a silly number of blockers as you do this as well. You just repeat until you have 20 insects in grave (something that shouldn't take too long), then use the ultimate for game. If you have 10 insects in grave, and no-one has clear heal, and you have a loyalty of 10+ from your turn 3 mill, you can just ultimate over two turns and win. You can just make your mills even more consistent by cutting your land count more. End of the day all you need to do is have 2 lands in opening hand, and after you cast rites of spring, still have 1-2 lands in the deck to avoid a deckout. It would just make the mulligans more high-rolly

[@MegaGenguy]

The Oathbreaker + Spell combo I've been using ever since I learned of the format is Nissa, Stweard of Elements + Brainstorm. She's fun for a sort of creaturey control deck where Brainstorm compliments her nicely by stacking the top your deck with a creature/land that was in your hand that Nissa can put into play for free or use her +2 to scry away the cards you put back with Brainstorm if you had no good options nor a fetch land to shuffle them away.

[@caiocapasso]

having a "commander" AND a special spell makes every match absudly linear

[@Thewallace7347]

Not really. I have a ob nixilis, the adversary+flame rift deck that wants to burn out the table and play a deaths shadow. its fairly linear, but that doesn't make the games un-interesting. The way i play against a life gain deck and a control deck are very different, one im looking for vortex like cards, the other im trying to go fast. Play patterns are different depending on the opponents

[@manjackson2772]

​@@Thewallace7347But against the same opponent twice, you'd be playing essentially the same game

[@enteruniquehandlehere]

I love your take on Grist! I'm just now getting into Oathbreaker, and Grist was my immediate go-to. I had been considering Forever Young as the Signature Spell, but I'll definitely have to try Rites of Spring

[@tatesmith4527]

Forever young as an SS is a BEAST ! It's not broken, but just extremely powerful, and most of all, funny !

[@heuclmeucl-heucl5351]

Ral storm conduit to copy a collected conjuring its just AMAZING

[@peytonmanzer-yj4gl]

Jeskas will and tibalt is a stooopid turn 2-3 deck

[@Tuss36]

One thing about the Brain Freeze deck is that if you're lucky and have enough mana, you can potentially cast it twice, letting it add to the storm count while doubling the effectiveness of it.

[@Kishimyu]

My friend group likes to play powerful but do have a Rule 0 that we cannot play "inifinites" in the command zone. Doesn't solve everything but does prevent playing crap like Prof Oynx and Chain of Smog.

[@timebert1099]

Great video + suggestions, thank you. I think the first part of the video is the most important one: Oathbreaker CAN be an extremely fun format, but not if you put an autowinning combo into your command zone. I just started with the format and it was so much fun going throught my old cards and decks, really a trip down memory lane. I've build a sacrificing-themed Garruk Relentless deck and a token-based Xenagoth deck... the hours after that were spend searching for funny pictures for creature tokens to print :D

[@MrZer093]

I’m thinking of going with Idyllic Tutor with that same Gideon. Just keep searching out enchantments that keep making you less of a juicy target, usually starting with Deification to keep all your Gideons alive so long as you also have a creature out

[@juanchetumare]

What we have done in my playgroup is that we built our decks with cards we found around in our collection and we do minimal to no optimizing, just "oh this card in this trade binder could be cool in my deck". It keeps it really fun and lighthearted.

[@werothegreat]

My issue with Oathbreaker is, by its nature, you want to run proliferate, and if you're running proliferate, you may as well run infect. It can lead to very same-y, un-fun decks.

[@ZypherWildfire]

I made two Oathbreaker decks, well, technically three. During the first go-around for Oathbreaker, I made a [Vraska, Golgari Queen] + [Reanimate] deck that was Sliver tribal that had a heavy sacrifice and revive influence. This go-around, I made two decks. I made a [Sivitri, Dragon Master] + [Feign Death] Dragon Tribal as my "slower" deck. My other deck for faster play was [Huatli, Warrior Poet] + [Fight as One]. It is a low cost deck focusing on making or casting a bunch of small creatures and pump them up with combat tricks.

[@CreativeSteve69]

First deck broken, Seond deck fun factor, third deck sounds fun factor, fourth is broken, fifth sounds fun. My friend group from school gave OathBreaker a try and it became our third favorite format next to commander. So now we've been shuffling around between oathbreaker and commander lately. It's a breath of fresh air in magic to us.

[@Aztracity]

I was interested in the format wayback when it was announce since I finally had a cool place to play my favorite comman clockspining. To bad buyback doesn't work.

[@esperdungeoneer1218]

My Arlinn oathbreaker is one of my favorite deck to play! Thanks Prof for showing us the validity of this cool new format

[@tannerhumphrey6208]

Ral Zarek + reckless handling (for krarks thumb) - coinflip tribal. Had a lot of fun making this deck

[@apocalypticsword5524]

13:48, Well played sir, Well Played.

[@proffejor]

I had built 2 oathbreaker decks when the format first came out, (I had heard about it just after War of the Spark) so I will describe these decks, as both were a lot of fun. One of my decks was Domri, Anarch of Bolas as the 'breaker, and Cultivate as the signature spell, with a deck full of Chandras (yeah, similar to the Proffessor's number 1 deck, this was actually Chandra tribal) and Elementals. I'd drop Domri on turn 5, and use his mana to Cultivate. Domri and Cultivate really were just used for ramping out the Chandras, and distilling my deck, and the elemental package brought creatures like Chandra's Embercat, Flamekin Harbinger, and Incandescent Soulstoke as well as some big boys like Cloudthresher. Changeling Titan and Berserker would let me use Soulstoke to save creatures and pull off some interesting combat tricks. It didn't win that often, but it was great to play. The other deck was a mono-green Nissa Revane as Oathbreaker with Elvish Promenade as the signature spell. (I'd use Elven Ambush now, but this was before that card existed, so it worked at sorcery speed.) It would flood the board with cheap elf mana dorks, as well as cards that cared about the number of elves, including Elvish Guidance, Marwen the Nurturer, Priest of Titania, Wirewood Channeler, and Elvish Archdruid, (Circle of Dreams Druid would also go in, if I rebuilt it now.) Priest of Titania's mana would cast Elvish Promenade and double the number of elves, then use Wirewood Channeler or Seeker of Skybreak (or whatever) to cast the Promenade one or two more times and end up with an irresponsible number of elves. After the elf count would get out of hand, I'd use Nissa's 2nd +1 and gain loads of life. At that point, my opponents would frequently have an issue dealing with my life total and board. Even when they had a boardwipe, I could usually live through several swings and rebuild my board faster than anyone else. If they didn't boardwipe, I'd maybe Promenade once or twice more for good measure, and use an anthem like Joraga Warcaller or Overrun to close out games. Since Oathbreaker players don't have easy access to "21 commander damage" to kill opponents, I had figured an Oathbreaker focused on life gain might be pretty strong, and it definitely was.

[@neil5652]

Lillian the Vail with Liliana's triumph and just jammed together every mono Black card I had in the binder had a blast.

[@grey_hood7051]

My favourite combo has always been a homebrew Grandmaster of Flowers//Holy Day. It isn't absurdly powerful, but it's been fun to stall for turns with chump blockers, fogging, and removing until I can get Bahamut to be a creature, and go on the offensive.

[@dragoknighte48]

13:40 Rats, Rats we are the rats Celebrating yet another birthday bash

[@dvillegas]

I had a couple of oathbreaker game with my friends, two of them when immediately for what would be a highly optimize commander deck with combos in the signature spell zone, and me and my other friend when for goblins and white weenies respectively...and we just kill them before they could go off! It's easy to overlook the fact that 20 life is way less than 40, but the amount of time that takes away from you compare to commander really matters, and it allows for more low to the ground decks to be an honest threat.

[@Absol7critical]

I used to love Oathbreaker. I built a Karn, Scion of Urza deck and jammed all of the swords into it. I called it Robots With Swords. The spell was a tough choice as there weren't many options at the time. I settled on Warping Wail as a way to hopefully counter other spells in the zone, and put All is Dust into the deck as it wasn't much fun in the command zone when I tried it.

[@liamlanphear6371]

I’m quite proud of my oathbreaker brew of Elminster and Mystic Reflection; I scry to find a huge spell in my library, which makes my spells much cheaper, and then I use his minus 3 to exile a huge cmc spell creating that many 1/1s… but wait! I use mystic reflection to turn all those 1/1s into something bigger and spicier! It’s genuinely the most fun I’ve had brewing since very early on in my commander career, and it’s such a perfect pairing.

[@theprogressivecynic2407]

There are just some combos that should result in you getting burned out by the table on principle alone--for example, Teferi, Time Raveler and Mana Drain.

[@michaelsaldana4103]

Always thought that Jace's worst sig spell would be Whir of Invention to go get a Leveler.

[@jimmysmith2249]

Nice add segue. Very smooth.

[@antisnowman]

13:51 Jace Jace, we are the Jace! Celebrating another win to throw in your face! MICHAEL it's your birthday today...

[@thezombiepotato1]

It was cool running into you on my short visit to Portland

[@christophera2534]

Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and Mana Severance + Islands gives way to a competitive deck on a incredible budget

[@liquidfiretibby]

jace + paradigm shift

[@Ghettobob04]

Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and Treasure hunt + islands is turn 5 victory unless disrupted.

[@C._Bradford]

@liquidfiretibby doesn't end the game immediately but the whole point of the video was about taking broken combos out of the game. I dig it. I mean it's still broken, but just less broken.

[@ctomsky]

​@@Ghettobob04 And the most BORING and repetitive experience you can imagine.

[@Ghettobob04]

Probably

[@ledrociam]

I have a few different Oathbreakers built already. 1.Gideon of the Trials w/ Angel's Grace 2.Lolth w/Deadly Dispute 3.Arlin Kord w/Kari Zevs Expertise So far there's very little interest in my area for oathbreaker but that's why I have multiple decks and build more whenever I have extra cards on hand to do so.

[@thatoneginger]

My deck is Vraska, Swarm’s Eminence and Inspiring call, letting me draw loads of cards for my plan working. But if my plan isn’t working because other people checked me, it can’t do anything. Balanced and fun. Too bad I don’t know anyone else with an oath breaker deck.

[@ReadySetPainter]

I love you found a way to make grist awesome.

[@dojopar6574]

Gideon blackblade White weenies with brought back as the signature spell is fun. Only oath breaker deck I've currently got built.

[@Competent_Cobana]

I built a Garruk, Cursed Huntsman + Culling Ritual deck and it's basically just big golgari beaters with no permanents in the deck that are 2 cmc or less. I absolutely love it, and it's a great time when I'm not fighting against someone who's put something heinous in their spell slot.

[@catz_ee]

I'm a big fan of Kaya, Geist Hunter plus Benevolent Offering. Because of her token doubling you always get more value than whoever you choose to also get the spirits, and the life gain really helps against more aggressive decks. Good amount of a politics lean while also being able to overrun the opponent pretty well.

[@camerondomer]

Been playing a fair amount of oathbreaker lately, really like my swarms eminence deathtouch matters deck!

[@nicholassulfaro1727]

I’ve had a Professor Onyx + Chain of Smog deck on the back burner as my oathbreaker of choice.

[@TheAlfahDj]

we made a house rule called "planeswalker summoning sicknes" so you cannot use your signature spell until your next upkeept. Being this a multiplayer game, it shuts down broken planes/signature combos, as any on the table is an instant removal of the planeswalker. This alone encouraged the use of clever signature spells, but better all around planeswalkers not looking for a broken card combo.

[@minervadetauro7646]

My favorite personal brew for Oathbreaker is Liliana of the Dark Realms + Bubbling Muck. The deck is essentially a mono black “swamps matter” ramp deck that wants to get tons of swamps, then double the mana they make with Bubbling Muck to spend into massive payoffs.

[@Trogdorbad]

I haven't had a chance to properly play it yet, but my first Oathbreaker deck is B.O.B. I had High Tide as the signature spell at first before finding out it was banned, so now it's Artifical Evolution. Why? Because my wincon is Graaz, and changing it to say Beeble instead of Juggernaut beefs up the B.O.B. One day I'll play a proper oathbreaker game, only done some 1v1 testing against my gf

[@WGG-01]

3 major problems with oathbreaker that really turned me off of the format: 1. Cards that add counters like proliferate etc, makes planeswalkers get emblems and the like far to quickly and easily and just win within a few turns with no setup. 2. Planeswalkers that just win the game with their big loyalty minus, a lot of planeswalkers need only one or two turns and then just win if they hit the table which means a ton of your deck has to be devoted to removal and with only 60 cards it feels a bit limiting. 3. Planeswalkers with static abilities, they just without a doubt do so much more inherintly broken things than those who do not especially the ones that have all the 2 previous problems to back them up. Without these things oathbreakers becomes a damn near perfect format.

[@wbbigdave]

Aaah yes, the Mox Diamond from the Canon Pixma Secret Layer ❤

[@Halinn]

One I've been considering is Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler with Awaken the Woods. Just keep getting more and more mana each turn, with the option for a combo finish with Doubling Season (but that can be omitted if you prefer just going big)

[@doctorexam6164]

I made a fun deck with the 6 mana oko that focusses on ramping into giant creatures and overwhelm, I didn't even really use the signature spell, which I chose as tamiyo's safekeeping just to keep the simic value going

[@blargenspargle]

The thing about Oathbreaker is a lot of the best planeswalkers to use already have "this can be used as commander" on them, because they've been designed specifically as build around cards. So why not just play commander?

[@akatsukifan845]

I had a dDaretti Ingenious Iconoclast with Shrapnel Blast as the signature spell. Basically having a trash cannon at any given moment.

[@danylerasu4917]

I have a Grist oathbreaker deck that I love, but I use forever young as the signature spell instead. It's extremely fun.

[@CrazyEyeOptics]

My deck is Sarkhan the Mad & Shallow Grave. As many 4 mana or less Dragons as I can handle. Wait to play Sarkhan till I have a good # of Flying Flame Lizards then summon my walker, play Shallow Grave to get another Lizard, Ult Sarkhan to burst someone down, then swing in with the lot against whoever is still standing. Almost every dragon is competitively stated so everyone feels powerful. Love it so much, very fun, many dragons.

[@IMatchoNation]

I just want to play Jaya (and Immolating Inferno) monored burn!

[@redpanda8383]

I taught Oathbreaker was dead, did I miss something?

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Wotc went and made it an "official" format

[@JesGolbez]

It is dead, the 10 people who play it are still trying to make it relevant.

[@m1gr3nA]

its as dead as paper brawl. its impossible to find people to play with unless you play online. it was just content creators trying to hop onto the bandwagon early in case this will be the new hot trend. it was not but wotc wants to sell more expensive cardboard which they cannot with pedh so oathbreaker it is.

[@FearOgre]

Its pretty much dead, its crawling around on the floor bleeding out..

[@nicolascasime9248]

At 18:40 prof describes broken commanders. One if them is "jace and whatever"... One of his decks is jace and whatever. It made me chuckle

[@drpibisback7680]

I was suspicious of Professor Onyx + Chain of Smog being around, but I didn't even consider Narset + Windfall. Somebody made an oversight there.

[@kyleclementino6298]

Its a fun format, nice to play while waiting for some ppl to arrive or during the time ur eliminated.

[@imanimason5858]

Great Video man!!!

[@ctomsky]

IMO, Oathbreaker has the same problem as Tiny Leaders did, it's too limited and too competitive for a casual format to be fun enough for mass adoption. Unlike Commander, you can't rely on social convention to manage the cardpool and self regulate, it needs some serious ban list updates to keep all the broken stuff in check.

[@geodesicdeath2997]

limited?

[@somesubstitute4242]

Surprisingly, Liliana of the Veil and Deadly Rolick has been a bread n butter deck for me. Exile dangerous threats, remove cards from everyone elses hands and play aristocrat/tax effects is fun, even if it paints a bullseye on your forehead. Otherwise, Dakkon Shadowlslayer and the surprisingly effective Open the vaults/soulguide lantern combo has won me a couple games.

[@dawubber6676]

I didn't think about those C20 free spells with Oathbreaker. Those feel kinda dirty....

[@somesubstitute4242]

@@dawubber6676 I really only save it for big threats, some people in my playgroup believe blightsteel goes in every deck

[@Soleniae]

Dang, must have missed the earlier oathbreaker vid, glad you're doing more! I could see an oathbreaker cube working really well, as a different way to control the power level of the format.

[@kevineldridge9452]

The three videos Prof mentions are all four years old...

[@Soleniae]

@@kevineldridge9452 Yup, during my hiatus. Been working through some of his back catalog of content but haven't come across the oathbreaker stuff yet.

[@Molluskcentral]

It's not a bad format in theory, but it's just Tiny Leaders 2.0 but more degenerate. 60 cards is the biggest problem.

[@j_g_t6091]

I think the issue with Oathbreaker is that it's like diet commander with the ability to be spike-ier(?) than is usually acceptable at a commander table. I just don't know how to make it more it's own thing.

[@fidly4]

17:49 Chandra, Flame's Catalyst! By Guff, that's a planeswalker deck card! Who would have thought such a card would ever have made it here. It is pretty fun though. I used proliferate and later Vorinclex to ult her in standard on Arena, and it's pretty game-winning if you have a lot of big stuff in your deck.

[@viyami]

"But you don't Narset + Windfall in commander because you aren't evil!" Why was there a subliminal flash of a picture of CubeApril in that transition?

[@15spidergel]

I always enjoyed Xenagos + Tempt with Vengence. Turns out having a Gaea's Cradle and a spell that makes X 1/1s in the command zone is absolutely crazy. You can then win with Witty Roastmaster, Purphoros, Impact Tremors, Hellrider, or a Bushwhacker. If all else fails you just use any overrun effect to go wide and tall.

[@jevontaylor9309]

I like it for being able to play aggro midrange decks that could never do it in EDH. 20 life makes such a difference over 40. My oathbreaker is Comet, Stellar Pup and signature spell Armageddon. The deck is Boros aggro modelled off legacy initiative decks.

[@cory7328]

I love some Oathbreaker.