Is It Worth It To Buy The Lost Fallout Commander Precon: "House Always Wins" | Magic: The Gathering

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

New Commander Shuffle Up & Play episode with One More Mana! Check it out her: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIfUgIh-pp2FkLc

[@LAK253]

. . . . . hmmm if don't have any magic cards do you recommend I just buy singles? or precon? I recently watched those spell book products videos and im not sure if I should by a precon, spell book, or just buy singles. I really don't know what to buy if go that route. Those universe beyond cards seem cool, but I don't want to upset people if I play them. what do you think?

[@FaytVanguard]

Would Choose Kellogg, Dangerous Mind over Monoxa, Midway Manager. Paying an extra 6 to roll some dice seems like unnecessary compared to extra Treasure Gen and Commander Stealing.

[@billygoodman8819]

Why are you pronouncing Caesar that way. I had to look it up to be sure im not crazy. Sure there is a german pronunciation that is almost what you said. Hard C or K sound to start.. but its not the english or really any other way to say it. I mean is that how you say "little Caesars"? You know the pizza place? Its "see-ser" not "kie-sar"... not sure why it bigs me so much. Just though an english major would know that. If im wrong then im wrong, but please bring a good explination, hopefully with situations.

[@number1ratedsalesman_1997]

[[Now do it with Attractions.]]

[@thomasfry5140]

​@@billygoodman8819This is how its pronounced in the video game, and is also the Latin pronunciation, for Julius Caesar

[@IAmAndyC]

The biggest outrage of the Fallout set is they did not print the Platinum Chip as a legal copy of Krark's Other Thumb.

[@MadnessOpus]

And now I'm making it as a proxy, just like I did with Vulpes Inculta as Isshin. Thanks for the idea.

[@fireballdick]

dunno, the deck that has The Master as an alternative commander being promoted as a mothman deck is up there

[@atingley0913]

Not only that, but not having blue so I can't win with Mechanized Production and win with an army of Securitron robot Tokens? Literally how you win in New Vegas in that quest line... so disappointing!

[@littlecutie7523]

or as darksteel forge

[@Corveign]

Maybe that will come in the secret lairs?

[@OzxGG]

The $45 version is now estimated at $137 and the $109 version is estimated for $233.. cool cool cool lol.

[@tresnalder2149]

I love the unfinity cards in here for flavor because Mr. House's dream was to travel to space.

[@wadeaminute6061]

I bought the Hail Caesar precon and tore it apart to build a House deck. Wizards definitely dropped the ball on the chance to make a great precon for House.

[@MadnessOpus]

Eh, the only House-worthy cards in that precon are House himself, Luck Bobblehead and the reprint of Ruinous Ultimatum. Aaaand maybe the lands from the set to keep it in character.

[@israeldavila27]

They dropped the ball, little wheel, go spin, landed on an unfavorable outcome.

[@davestier6247]

Yeah I'm building roll a d20 tribal but just buying the single of Mr house and like 2 other cards from fallout. Screw hasbro.

[@Umezete]

@@MadnessOpus bottle-cap blast and treasure cards in general are decent with it but it's a pity we got literally ZERO dice roll effects.

[@MadnessOpus]

​@@Umezete Yup, that's my main gripe with it.

[@BlazinTre]

Hey Prof, my friends got me into MTG commander and your "build your own Precon" series helped me find some of my favorite creature types, aristocrats and vampires with your aristi-cats deck! I can't wait to buy and try this one out next!

[@lordspaz88]

Atempted Murder is oddly flavorful for a New Vegas themed deck as well. The main character is (attempted) murdered in the opening cutscene of the game and you see crows everywhere as you embark on your journey of revenge

[@hoodiegal]

This + the fact that the Storm Crows the card generates have the 50's greaser aesthethic shared by the Tunnel Snakes are the reasons I kept Attempted Murder in my version of the deck.

[@lucyarisato6850]

Started to adjust the Caesar deck for House, but this is so much better.

[@sagethevvitch]

This is what I love about Prof and Magic players. WotC doesn't do something, the players don't let it go. They just say "F*ck it, I'll do it myself!"

[@ryanb5738]

I started building this exact deck when House was spoiled. Very glad to see almost every card i put in it was featured here! Some cards i added where Pitiless Plunderer, Illustirous Wanderglyph, and Vexing Puzzlebox to bank off all the tokens youd be making. Thanks Proff

[@dallasjthompson]

I gotta say, I think you're missing that Unfinity works GREAT theming wise, this could totally be a Wild Wasteland kind of DLC expansion. New Vegas definitely leaned that direction with Sierra Madre and Old World Blues. That sort of theming, if made darker, would work great with the vision of pre-war Fallout

[@Questara]

I was disappointed that Mr house didn't really work in the deck. I have been working on the same concept myself.

[@TFulmi]

I'm kinda new as a Magic player and I've been trying to build a Mr. House deck since the fallout precons came out, this video has been a lot of help! Thank you!

[@thatonefergie]

I had built my own semi-budget Mr. House deck as soon as I got the Caesar deck! I'm glad our decklists are pretty similar. I included some token doublers in the form of Mondrak, Glory Dominus and Anointed Procession (proxied because both total over $100), more damage pingers like Mayhem Devil, Disciple of the Vault, and Nadir's Nightblade, and cards that bring in Attractions 😁

[@jonl4359]

Rene Auberjonios was one of the best audiobook narrators too!! The Phenderghast series by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child was really brought to life by Rene! RIP man, thanks so much!

[@Jlizard27]

I’ve always imagined you saying robot like Dr. Zoidberg, and I’m extremely pleased that I was right.

[@HollywoodZach]

I was literally building this deck and starting to buy the singles I need when this video went live. Thanks for doing the legwork Prof! I can't wait to assemble this deck and show my pod that the house always wins.

[@TheHortoncrow]

This is one of the best content ideas you have done. I would love to see more of this. It's the kind of thing Varina players had to do, but not every "lost" commander had popular tribal support.

[@samc5019]

I love that Fallout 1 and 2 got a decent amount of love in this set, and that Fallout: Tactics even got a card. I was expecting the Master to get a card, maybe Frank Horrigan or Tandi, but to see people and places like Ian, Aradesh, Junktown, the Cathedral, Necropolis, Vault City, the Oil Rig and the Temple of Trials represented was a pleasant surprise, and Behemoth of Vault 0 was a fantastic surprise.

[@vitorgomes6762]

Did they do at least 1 card for every video game?

[@samc5019]

@@vitorgomes6762 all of them except for Brotherhood of Steel and Fallout Shelter, I think

[@austintomlinson7863]

Anyone else find it funny that the prof, in his "this is the precon you're missing out on" video, did NOT include the Battlebond lands either?

[@kevinwestermann1001]

No. Because it demonstrates why they need to be put in all/more preconstructed decks: They are too expensive. Unlike WotC, TCC "has to" stick to the $45 limit.

[@mattfoley99]

Dabbling with getting back into MTG. Mr House will fit right into my 5C Dice, Dice and More Dice Tiamat deck. Glorious value!

[@aaronlastname9259]

I think my favorite thing about this video is seeing what cards work with my already built Mr House deck. Dispatch seems really nice.

[@cubikx8575]

Started on this deck the moment the card was announced, just did my first few games with it tuesday, so much fun!

[@toddmitchell8615]

Reskin Comet as Gabe from the Old World Blues expansion.

[@Sweetroll_Wolfie]

*Yes!* Perfect idea!

[@XmortoxX1990]

I think you cantake most of these cards to be reskined as if they belong New Vegas. I also love Mr House. It was one of the hype moment for me to reach to New Vegas and finally talk to the guy. He totally deserved his own deck.

[@Dioliolio]

Shame they didn’t also add a fallout favourite with Joshua Graham

[@robob2968]

I just made my own Mr. house deck. Glad to see a bunch of the cards I put in were mentioned in this video.

[@CarterHerrigstad]

As soon as I saw Mr. House's abilities, I knew this had to be the first deck I ever built! Pretty cool watching a video where most of the cards I alright knew about or had, but also thanks for letting me know of the existence for a few that I didn't know about, lol

[@bumcubbles98]

I really hope I get to see someone play this. I love the rework you did here

[@GumGob1in]

This type of content is amazing. I love looking at “what could have been” precons

[@UNIVERSESBEYOND]

What an awesome idea for a commander pre-con, we are DEFINITELY building this! Thanks Prof!!!

[@RonathonCharlie]

Man your voice is amazing to have on in the background while I cook.

[@SamFreelancePolice]

I'm gonna be real with you guys. I haven't played competitive magic in a decade, I only play with friends who are chill with what's legal or not. So I built a Mr House commander deck with a lot of the dice-rolling cards from Unstable. It's not OP at all cause it's all D6s anyway and it's a ton of fun!!

[@shinysparce3708]

I love and appreciate this idea. House is my favorite Fallout character ever, and I was also disappointed that Ceaser got the precon instead of him, considering House's mechanic is much more unique, and on flavor imo.

[@jbigs65]

Mr. House is my chosen route in New Vegas. He’s a hero to snow globe fans everywhere!

[@alfredosaint-jean9660]

Snow globes are cool.

[@jakepartida8172]

I absolutely love to see this! This is exactly what I named my house commander deck before I even knew the hail Caesar deck was coming out. I always make a joke with my friends saying looks like it's time to go to the adventure dome. Which is basically an amusement park located here in vegas

[@MaxMustermann-ql2wm]

Say I had the brass and copper dragons - which cards would I swap out for them? 🤔

[@Lawler50431]

Thanks for the video! I had bought the "Hail, Ceasar!" deck because I already had a Mardu aristocrat deck and wanted more cards fitting that but was disappointed that Mr. House didn't have any real support in it for his dice rolling effect. This'll be a big help on getting the dice rolling (pun very much intended) on my own take!

[@Leumascar]

Gonna make Mr. House with attractions and call it Disney World

[@Sweetroll_Wolfie]

Haha, nice one! x3c

[@BTierGaming]

As soon as they revealed Mr.House I started building the deck. I printed out a proxy of hin to slot as the commander and went to town a couple months back. Have loved it ever since. Being a big D&D fan helps as well. One of my favorite decks and the flavor of the card and its abilities is top notch!

[@atingley0913]

I have a list built for this fantastic commander! Can't wait for the cards to come in so i can play him! Thank you for this video!

[@floofyproofy9374]

House’s outburst is one of my favorite moments in fallout 76, just seeing the true him after you have this idealized thought of him is so perfectly written.

[@Asrugan]

All I wanted from the Fallout set was a Fawkes card, and sadly they once again disappointed (after skipping Captain Jack in Doctor Who)

[@Knights_Oath]

With all the minor characters in the Doctor Who decks, Jack Harkness not getting a card except as The Face of Boe was a huge let down. I feel they did the same injustice to Joshua Graham with this set.

[@alfredosaint-jean9660]

​@@Knights_OathNot Joshua an not Captain Jack deserves a very good explanation.

[@ChaoticLapras]

Hearing House called a villain threw me off ngl. and am now about to go into a deep dive research into House lore to figure out just how villain like he is

[@philosopher24680]

He's not really, he is supposed to be morally grey, sort of an anti-hero or anti-villain depending on POV.

[@crazypatchy1]

I got the precon and subbed out the house and bobblehead. Working on making a House deck myself

[@tizoloki]

i put this list together and it is super hit or miss but so much fun! thanks for the deck tech.

[@xStarborn]

Thank you for the help. Been struggling to put mr house together effectivley

[@HHHoldTheBass]

What a fantastic video. I was just talking to my friend yesterday about how I wanted to build Mr. House and to give me all his D & D cards 😂

[@Nomanzo]

My own version of Mr House, that I got to try out earlier this week, is probably a little less spicy because literally every nonland card cares about or rolls dice, meaning I lose stuff like the treasure synergy cards. But that's fine, because it's a lot sillier that way. The fact that this version only runs Luck Bobblehead and none of the others so you can't even try to gamble for the 1 in 280 thousand win should be a crime though.

[@MrShazaamable]

When using all the bobble heads in a deck it just becomes so much worse. I know I know, fun over winning etc.. but drawing into 3 cost mana rocks which dont do much over n over feels bad

[@voltcorp]

loved this, got my brain bubbling with proxy ideas. priority boarding is definitely getting the REPCONN ghouls from Come Fly With Me!

[@MrShazaamable]

Repconn?

[@voltcorp]

@@MrShazaamable the name of the rocket facility in new vegas is REPCONN Test Site. I mean the Bright followers

[@Gorbgorbenson]

I probably will make this list a reality. I was trying to find roll die cards on scryfall, and due to the wording it wasnt the easiest to do. I appreciate the leg work being done to find the fun stuff!

[@Arastelion]

I love it. This is the kind of deck that keeps me coming back to Commander. Unique mechanics exploited to the max!

[@darksphere4679]

absolutely love this as a new mtg player. basically buliding your own precon is sooooo cool

[@rafbeard4975]

I can't wait to build and surprise my boss with this deck! He was so disappointed to see Mr. House relegated to back up with almost no go. Thank you for this Mr. Prof!!

[@philosopher24680]

Victor, Jane & Monroe, the Platinum Chip, Snowglobes (produces treasures), the Lucky 38 itself, Chairmen and Omertas were all no-brainers for them to add for Mr. House. Really sad not to see them, but you did a great job making an alternate version.

[@silentserpent597]

Mr. House isn't a villain, he's morally grey. In fact, Mr. House has the best ending because he offers humanity a future away from the fallout. And in a neutral or good karma through, his egomaniac tendencies are grounded and kept in check by courier 6.

[@HeaveHoBucko]

Exactly, he's offers the whole "rebuilding society" promise the enclave makes without the horrible human experiments.

[@philosopher24680]

@@HeaveHoBucko Yeah Mr. House is interesting because he succeeds in offering a cold but nonetheless humanist, utilitarian ethics to the player, one that places the "collective good" over individuals. He is essentially what The Master/Caesar/Enclave think they were, but weren't, because they were too dysfunctional and/or sadistic. Because he doesn't care when individualism doesn't threaten the collective good of humanity, he ends up as a morally grey character with big potential payoffs for mankind at the cost of autocracy, one who it's supposed to feel kind of screwed up to kill regardless of whether you side with him or not.

[@papaflowers5726]

You digging in hard on the lore was such a fun surprise. Man NV is awesome. 😊

[@MrShazaamable]

I've built Mr House with many dnd cards and unfinity-- more focused on the treasure making aspect to be able to work more cohesively while still remaining flavourful. I even bought Nuka-Cola caps on etsy and aged them for real TREASURES 😇 playing it on the Holo Foil nuka cola playmat feels amazing along with custom dragonshield sleeves with the pip boy rolling dice on the design. My friends absolutely love playing against it and borrowing it to play too.

[@enso8379]

Love this idea! Hope you do more of this as sort of a series.

[@hoodiegal]

My biggest criticism is the inclusion of the unfinity dog. If someone put a gun to my head and told me to put that dog in my deck, I would hesitate to do so.

[@cooltiger2439]

Calling Mr.house a villain is a little much i think. Ya he has done some messed up stuff but so has the NCR. Personally I see him as more of a lawful neutral.

[@KyleWarnUs]

Ive been wanting to make an ameritrash dice rolling commander deck for quite a while now, and after seeing mr house i thought he would be the ideal commander. Thanks for making this video Prof!

[@vjmendozajr]

i know the struggle of building a diceroll deck together, i did it for the Vrondis precon

[@thedude130]

Aaaand now it's $200 from TCGP and Card Kingdom :/

[@Spalovac]

0:41 I have the exact same feeling about Master not being the face commander of Mutant menace. Like c'mon, Mothman isn't even a Fallout thing, that's just IRL cryptid they co-opted into the F76. Massive flavor fail.

[@PsionicMonk]

Seems like a (Hoover) dam good deck idea! You really put your thinking (bottle)cap on for this one!

[@MemoriaGaming628]

I'd also suggest Vexing Puzzle Box for this deck! But man this was exactly what I wanted to see! My Caesar deck is already fully modified, but this House deck is awesome!

[@chrispynation5133]

I too, was hoping for the precon to be based on Mr. House. I love adding "chance time" shenanigans to my commander games. Luckily for me I already have most of the cards you mentioned in this video, so i barely need to spend any money to make this deck.👍

[@Spaldino85]

Comet puts in SO MUCH WORK in a Mr House deck. The best boy.

[@brandonburgess3548]

So glad you made this video!

[@Coroidan-i3u]

Just finshed assembling my own Mr. House deck a week ago and it's a lot of fun to pilot.

[@henryborromeo448]

I've been dying to try Commander since watching Prof's channel, and I would love to try this deck specifically!

[@parappa642]

My table let me rule 0 him as a proxy commander months ago and It's been such a blast to play. Been on a ROLL with'em since having a real one to play with!

[@HumdrumMadman]

Villain? He can be ruthless, but the only two groups he has you kill are the Legion and the Brotherhood. Given the history of the Brotherhood in the Mojave I can't say I blame him for striking first before they go to war with him. I can't think of many other villainous things he does or has you do.

[@Hyperion7312]

I've been playing a proxied version of this deck i built for about 3 months now and its so much fun to play. My pod does generally has a higher power level so i run the Ancient dragons but they dont take away from the fun of literally gambling your way to a win

[@darklord161]

They didn't make a victor card, I didn't even realise

[@Sequence19]

I'm so glad I built and bought my Mr House deck before this video came out. There's been a huge spike in card prices for dice rolling

[@Junon01]

I'm brewing a Mr House deck but also including all 7 bobbleheads just because I had to get extra silly with it. I already run a Vrondiss deck and need more uses for my dice tower! Can't wait to borrow some inspiration from this build.

[@alex-mr9ix]

Ive made a deck with mr house and get up to 5 to 6 robots a turn and 2 to 3 treasures 😊

[@Iweleth]

Ever since Maldhound talked about it I've been wanting to work on Mr. House so this should be plenty of inspiration in putting together my decklist. After I finish working on my Elas il-Kor/Lurrus aristocrat deck that is.

[@RockerDanM]

Love this deck idea, House felt a bit out of place and I am glad to see a fun list built around the dice rolling mechanic can be done. I have a 60 card R/B D20 roll deck from the D&D sets just for the extra mechanic and chance. Since they used Rex for Science! deck you could use K-9 from Fallout 2 as a suitable replacement as K-9 was also a cyber hound on the West Coast.

[@federicorodriguez451]

I just started brewing 2 Mr.House decks yesterday, amazing timing

[@mhtanks]

I'm just giddy with delight while I wait for the cards in the mail to arrive. I already bought a dice tower in preparation.

[@LoonyLucyRM]

YES VERY GOOD I'm so so so hyped to build Mister House and while I am ALSO excited to look into Unfinity stuff with him, this is a really good look into the dice "archetype" as a whole!

[@Magsz_]

This is the 1st build your own precon from the Prof. that I’m buying and I can’t wait to try it! Shortly after this video, I got into a rabbit hole of his other precons and want to build more than one now 😅

[@Aerix]

Probably one of the top 3 shuffle-up episodes. An astounding ending to boot. But I do have to call out that the House decklist credited in the description is not the same as his homebrew house precon video's lists. We seen him play cards not on those lists.

[@disneymafia]

Novel prompt Prof. This was a great watch.

[@Thessik73]

This looks like a fun deck, and one I might try building. That said, I am once again compelled to comment by the prof's wildly inaccurate pricing statements. The Fallout precons, like all existing UB precons, would have an MSRP of $59.99 if it had one. They were never $50 decks. WotC has literally never put out a Commander precon at that price point. Currently, they are either $45 (for standard set ones) or $60 (for UB ones). Or more, for Commander Masters, I suppose.

[@zennozangetsu1164]

There were $20-30 commander decks before so this is a silly thing to get tiffed at

[@Thessik73]

@@zennozangetsu1164 I manage a game store. When someone with a large audience of Magic players starts incorrectly declaring what things should cost, it can affect the market. If customers expect to pay $50 for a $60 item, we are going to struggle to stay open. The prof does a good job of encouraging people to support their local game stores, but is shooting us in the foot himself.

[@zennozangetsu1164]

​@@Thessik73Oooh, I see. That does suck. Why doesn't Wizards use MSRP anymore?

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

you must be new because for a long time commander precons were 40$, such as the ur-dragon and edgar markhov decks, then wotc came out with beginner ones such as the rogue deck from zendikar rising was 20$. Only recently has $40+ become a thing, unless you are in a different country than the U.S. As of 3/24/2024 the Caesar deck is exactly 50$ at multiple different retailers.

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

He wasn't incorrect though, decks don't have msrp anymore and I haven't seen these decks above 50$, the video shows it at 38$ so unless you are talking Canadian dollars I have no clue what you're on about@@Thessik73

[@charlieawerbuch5352]

This is fairly simiar to what I was brainstorming as my build for Mr House. Tweak the mana base a bit and toss in the rest of the bobbleheads (I feel that if you run any you basically need to run all of them) and its functionally the same.

[@russellweems1852]

OMG, I LOVE your "precons"!!! As with the others, I already have several of the cards, so it's time to build build, BUILD!!!

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

This deck looks so fun thanks prof and team!

[@cysby]

man so glad you still make videos I used to watch your magic the gathering videos all night long 😂 keep it up and keep creating these dope videos 👍👍👍 god bless you

[@Gershelf]

I think it is a shame to not add attractions, but I can always just go with Myra for that. What three cards to replace though, if you do have the ancient dragons? I only have gold atm, but wanting to get the other two too, if possible.

[@zacharythorp6095]

Can I like this deck, and the sentiment behind it, multiple times? A pity I can't. This deck looks so fun to play. I had initially objected on theme lines for not using strictly d6's, but the 85% and 75% chance to succeed still gives the level of consistency you really want for Commander play, so i'm on board with it.

[@pops91]

Im so glad I build this deck when the commander was leaked and not when it was released, most of the roll die cards went way up in price. Always build decks on leaked dates not released!

[@OsrsDillon]

mr house is a secondary in the normal red black white precon from fallout easy swap with about 10-15 cards very do able and affordable, love you professor you da bomb dawg

[@ZombieExpert115]

I love how I start building a deck and prof releases a video on it🤩

[@JustAnOldGuy007]

I love this for the backup commander need more of this content 😊

[@goatsfluff]

Much as Caesar seems like a cool and fun commander, it is an atrocity that we finally got what I consider to be an interesting dice-rolling commander, and there were almost no new cards for him. Krark's Other Thumb should be legal outside un-commander at this point too. Looking into cards to put into a Mr House deck was one of the first things I did once I realized he got almost no love in the rest of the ... 98? Fingers crossed we'll get more dice-rolling cards in the future!

[@ShelteredOne]

New to the Community, love the breakdowns and suggestions. However, I love my Attraction deck & you can pry it from my cold dead hands.