Winning a game of Magic: The Gathering with an infinite combo…using only commons…

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[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Watch the full episode here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bavQqJtnl9ZgY9k

[@Cjtip26]

😂

[@_underscore_9271]

KZbin's shorts player needs work, there's no hyperlinking in comments, and you can't copy paste them, so I have to manually type this url to get to the main video, (or just look up shuffle up and play, and assume it's from the newest episode) (Okay, so youtube fixed it at some point, yay)

[@Dunkerinho]

Watching this short on my phone and I am somehow unable to find the full video…

[@mountinbikelife]

​@@Dunkerinhosame

[@dev_innit]

video title: Rhystic studies can only afford a pauper deck | shuffle up and play #4

[@Kristjan0209]

Watching someone play a combo deck without them knowing it's a combo deck was quite the experience

[@hosh3335]

That’s just new player things.

[@novos356]

spice has probably been playing the game longer than youve been alive lmao@@hosh3335

[@irishkelly2062]

Was it not their deck?

[@TheLuckySpades]

I made a chatterfang EDH deck where I just slammed in as many sac and treasure abilities as felt reasonable While playing I realized I accidentally made a combo deck, now it has 5 more tutors Will probably make a second version without the combos and much more squirrel focused for less powerful pods

[@williamedge5130]

@@irishkelly2062no, prof and his team made those decks for the episode

[@valerius88]

Starting an infinite combo against the Professor with "First Day of Class" is such a power move.

[@JushuaProvido]

When you put it that way, yeah, holy moly

[@joshuaking7470]

Yeah and it was also first day of going to the principal's office for Mr spice 8 rack after that win.

[@umbaupause]

He the one who got schooled that day.

[@VolkanKucukemre]

Do you need first day of class for this combo?

[@PatheticApathetic]

You could say Spice schooled the Professor

[@whitaker_]

They look like two completely different types of vampire

[@carlthegamer9215]

HAHAHAHA

[@sirf4ce]

One of the single greatest comments I've seen this year! EZ Clap!!!

[@voland6846]

Ventrue and Toreador?

[@Rocketboy1313]

​@@voland6846 which is the type that really likes solving puzzles? There are so many the lore is just a swarm of bees in my mind. Impossible to track.

[@voland6846]

@@Rocketboy1313 that sounds like a Malkavian problem

[@uncletrashero]

the year was 1999. The Horseshoe Crab infinite mana combo hit the table. I sneezed pepsi on it. the game was lost but the war was won.

[@commandercaptain4664]

And that's why I wear masks at the table. Feelthy boogerfiends.

[@scudigaming1755]

the what??

[@jeffsellenrick6635]

This is why double sleeves were invented

[@11epicnoob]

What was the combo?

[@11epicnoob]

​@@scudigaming1755 Horseshoe crab untaps itself for a singular blue mana. You get infinite by giving it some way to produce more than one mana when tapped

[@yaden16]

the fact that infinite combos exist in magic is fascinating to me. coming from other card games where if something like that is discovered its instantly banned never to return to the game

[@SuperSayianWarrior]

I mean other Card games have ether Poor ruling interactions (Yugioh and Pole Position) or have resources that make Infinite Loops next to impossible (Vanguard) whereas in Magic, rules are constantly updated to allow such interactions because in the end, if you can actually pull it off it's mostly deserved

[@dannyandrade8999]

There are many ways to not allow this to happen, so it's viewed as sort of letting your opponent gain too much traction, rather than a cheat.

[@alexs5814]

@@SuperSayianWarrior exactly this. the loop has to be earned and what they ban is basically one-card-combos that are too easy of an enabler that would boost everything up to eleven.

[@cteal2018]

The last real worthy ban was paradox engine because it turned almost every deck into a combo deck

[@darkpuppetlordful]

​@@SuperSayianWarrior Thing about Yu-Gi-Oh combos, they are more about cheating out a monster than creating an infinite resource. Like the two most iconic Yu-Gi-Oh turn ones/infinites (at least in my opinion) are exodia turbo and plant quasar turbo. Both of which basically (or in exodia turbo, literally) won the if you pulled it off. Turn one quasar is about on par with someone figuring out how to turn one emrakul, not technically unwinnable but scoop into game 2 is faster than the slow burn loss spending all resources on quasar (only to have to deal with shooting star if you successfully crack quasar) The problem is Yu-Gi-Oh has fewer ways to stop combos or interactions, and most of them are built into monsters you need on field to do (ironically Quasar is one of the strongest counter spells in the game, which is part of what makes him so Damn hard to break)

[@MosesSuppose]

This clip is also a perfect example of how to demonstrate and explain your infinite combo without taking 35 minutes to resolve each individual trigger at every step of the way

[@james14294]

if you watch the episode they do take a bit longer to get there, so this is a perfect example of good editing to do what you said

[@kutsen39]

To be fair, it's literally like two steps, and it's static. Sac it for R, it comes back with persist, -1 and +1 cancel, so repeat. It gets more difficult to explain and demonstrate that it's actually infinite when it's more complicated, like a one card combo, such as Prossh (on cast, get 1 Kobold per mana spent) and Food Chain (exile a creature for 1 + it's CMC mana), or Chatterfang (B, sac X squirrels, target creature gets +1/-1; + make a token + a squirrel token replacement effect) and Pitiless Plunderer (when your creatures die, get a treasure). Exiling Prossh and a specific amount of Kobolds to recast Prossh takes a couple of iterations to demonstrate infinite Kobolds, mostly because of command tax. With Chatterfang, I didn't realize that you can give your own things +1/-1 to death to get the treasures, it still works. So it's still infinite treasures even if the only things on board are Chatterfang, Plunderer, two squirrels, and one treasure. Then of course, to a newbie Rings of Brighthearth/Basalt Monolith has a lot of steps. You tap Monolith for 3, pay 3 to untap it, pay an extra two to copy the untap with Rings, let one resolve, tap Monolith again, let the other resolve, repeat. Infinites do get complicated, and to be efficient you have to know your cards really well, know the game really well, or memorize the combo steps.

[@lorenzogullotta3409]

there's something call editing, check it out! @@kutsen39

[@scienceteam9254]

Bruh yugioh catching strays wtf.

[@bigcauc7530]

Your average magic player that isn't a total nut about the game is going to take longer because they may know the game but all of the layers in magic that go into how the game operates takes a ton of ability to process correctly. It's why I would prefer to play magic if it were to exist in its entirely on a stable online platform (arena isn't it) that did everything for you. However, there just isn't going to be anything that can get rid of playing with real cards face to face either. It's just that most people with combo decks are not going to be QUICK. If you're honest about how you play, I see no problem with a person making sure the table is on the same page as him/her.

[@alanschroeder]

spice figuring out the infinite combo knowing nothing about the deck just shows how top tier they are at magic

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Yeah, it’s my favorite moment. Spice doesn’t play Pauper and had never seen the deck before and had no familiarity with it. The moment where Spice realizes the combo is just awesome.

[@KingBobXVI]

@@TolarianCommunityCollege - Spice hadn't seen the deck or combo before, but their innate attunement with all of goblinkind opened the doors to discovery.

[@allthatisandeverwas]

@@TolarianCommunityCollegeI love knowing this now, because this is one of my favorite moments in all of Shuffle Up & Play

[@williamedge5130]

@@KingBobXVIthe spirit of Slobad moved through him in this moment

[@sayamacd]

Spice is a gamer, he finds a way to get it done.

[@derpherbert3199]

That's EXACTLY how I pictured a MTG player who sets up an infinite combo would look like.

[@demiurge2501]

whats funny is they were given the deck blind only knowing it contained goblins

[@Jethorus]

💯🎯😂🤣🙃

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

This dude looks like one of those season 1 duelist that has a whole episode devoted to his card battle with the main character and then we seldom see him again throughout the entire series but he is still featured in future openings alongside other season 1 duelists the main character defeated. He *may* appear in the new tournament arc but he's definitely appearing as a brief cameo when the series ends.

[@JJ-52]

HOTD episode 4 though

[@southernstylebrewmtg]

Def the main characters uncle also

[@jordishima]

“I have infinite mana right now” is also what I heard from my opponent at my first (and last) FNM Draft tournament

[@feralacorn4013]

Love this. Classic Red 1 Trillion damage.

[@raznaak]

FIVE trillion damage.

[@thekillers1stfan]

Real ones make them read the abilities 5 trillion times in order for it to count

[@CamraMaan]

Well, technically red and black...

[@TheMilkMan8008]

​@@CamraMaanreal deadly combo there

[@SeedlingNL]

Nope, the game is a draw. You are required to state the number of loops. If you say infinite, the game cannot resolve and thus ends in a draw. The opponent could have a redirect, like Reroute in his hands to change the target of the Flamewave Invoker, after all... (If you know he can redirect your googleplex loop, you can draw the game by stating the loop happens an infinite number of times)

[@Buchaus]

"Do you hear that? That's the sound of the proletariat rising, baby, that's the sound of it! You've got nothing to lose but your chains, baby, and i just melted them with a fiery goblin!"

[@ThatWildcard]

Seizing the means of manaproduction with goblins has to be the most Spice-combo there is.

[@willh4220]

Disco Elysium vibes 🪩

[@vileluca]

Lore-accurate since Brian is a commie

[@iagomedeiros6580]

I love this comment section

[@chesstitan70]

Im sad they cut this out of the clip its ehy i watch it

[@MrMichaelmayo92]

Essentially. A goblin gets bullied on the way to class. Takes revenge

[@James11111]

*Oh no.*

[@The_Venerate]

Forever

[@GreenTeaCat222]

My first encounter with a Loop Kill was at Friday Night Magic at a small locally owned shop near my place in 2015. I was playing a Rainbow Sliver deck, as you do when you are 11 years old, and the guy I’m battling hits me with the loop. I am stun locked immediately and go cry in the corner for the rest of the night until I go to the Sonic across the street and get a milkshake.

[@FormlessDuck]

hey dont hate on the slivers.

[@Stuffinround]

Seeing two men in suits playing magic against each other is always an immaculate scene

[@seanfarley9235]

If all players dressed like that, less people would play, but the general public would have a better opinion of them.

[@DimirDaddy]

I appreciate the fact he explained the combo rather than just saying I have an infinite combo I win

[@thaddeusgenhelm8979]

Based on the other comments around, part of that is because, in the context, he was given the deck without being told what he was working with, so part of what you're seeing is also a recreation of his thought process figuring out what the deck does.

[@bloodfest8510]

also it is indeed a requirement to explain/demonstrate how the loop goes infinate, then run rotations of of it specified to the tables agreement before being allowed to go infinate and win (some people might be running storm cards that can answer)

[@cheesi]

Yeah, you should always demonstrate your infinites and ask that others do the same! People can get caight out if they know what cards they need but don't actually remember how the combo works lol

[@ScottGostick]

@@bloodfest8510 Yes it is only infinite when there is no way to break it. As you can't simply state that you have infinite. In this case he doesn't have infinite. What he has is the ability to go infinite if no other instants or triggers can interrupt the loop. He does not have infinite mana but does have a way to generate infinite.

[@_____mh]

Did he? I still don't understand 😅

[@Zararthur]

the dab at the end is sooooo bad, therefore is SOOOOOOO GOOD

[@davidpowell9957]

"This is so bad!!" -chrome

[@commandercaptain4664]

Stick with soooooo bad.

[@bhumibolrushing7830]

Yeah that was cringe lol

[@sosukelele]

​@@bhumibolrushing7830nah, it's great

[@ChrisSDParker]

Imagine getting dealt 1 trillion damage by someone dressed like a Vegas magician

[@eat00002]

imagine geting dealt 1 trillion damage by someone who doesnt

[@Radocruz]

​@@eat00002I have yet to see it lol

[@commandercaptain4664]

@@eat00002 That's... not possible.

[@alexs5814]

@@eat00002 It'd be such a copout^^

[@hil449]

Lol he's really stylish imo

[@-8h-]

I like the 4th wall break at the realization and announcement of "I can win the game". He doesn't care what the prof thinks, he's telling us.

[@ethanowens473]

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why counterspelling exists in MTG.

[@staticbuzter452]

*Tapped out*

[@ethanowens473]

@staticbuzter452 If you're playing Blue and tap out against a combo deck, you deserve everything that's going to happen to you.

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

@@staticbuzter452 free counter spells also exist

[@AnekdotenAusDerGeschichte]

​@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktenabro's got way too much money to slam into all his decks & have them in a density to consistently have them reasy

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

@@AnekdotenAusDerGeschichte You know proxies do exist right? It's not like the majority of people are going to tournaments with EDH decks anyways so it don't matter

[@Shraedar]

this is why a lot of card games like this have a set number of times that you can loop effects.

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

And why Magic is cooler

[@MobBarley-z3k]

Why does bro look like he's hunting vampires but he's also secretly a vampire

[@larrylaffer3246]

He's a version of Blade that lives in an expensive, urban city?

[@iamnotcameron]

Great episode, and i love that the edit doesn't colour it, just a great summary of the exchange. Great channel, great editor, love it

[@futureprez4061]

I love the whole trend Command Zone started where they just circle ALL OF THE TEXT on the card while they explain the card.

[@link3818_]

I don’t know how this game works, but what he did was badass

[@wm.danielrosenmund9964]

This is the exact moment I fell in love with pauper and with spice8rack

[@SlimyShadeSlimShady]

A hot combo from a handsome person, spice8rack is a goat.

[@twistedtachyon5877]

Goatnapper: ...

[@wynoglia]

Excuse me, he is, in fact, a man

[@akumaangelus2999]

@@wynoglia Excuse me, he is, in fact, a person.

[@TonyStorm21]

So you're telling me, some random goblins suddenly nuke me the hell out in one turn? Checks out. Some things never change.

[@l3ftie578]

not just SOME goblins, some fiery goblins seizing the means of mana production with the helpelp of a proleta- I mean pauper

[@benjaminboland7179]

I absolutely love this clip. Every time i watch it puts a smile on my face. Thats lets go! Cracks me up

[@Zorualex]

A four piece infinite combo with commons?!? I love it!

[@iamwaynecodd]

Sam dabbing at the end is just too perfect.

[@gavcanflip]

Oh my god the way it looks at the camera for "I can win the game" is priceless

[@SovereignwindVODs]

I'm sorry, IT?!

[@TheTaubadel]

@@SovereignwindVODs Spice uses "it" as it's pronouns.

[@fmalch1209]

He.

[@gavcanflip]

@@fmalch1209 nope! Spice has been pretty clear it uses it/they pronouns

[@the-engneer]

​@@gavcanflipstill a man though "He" is the correct term

[@janmelantu7490]

Moggwarts continues to be the most fun combo in MTG

[@zackarylawrence6888]

I have a friend who plays Obeka who accidentally gave himself infinite upkeeps. It is was fantastic to see.

[@robotikk64]

It's Ordinary Things' evil twin, *Emo Things*

[@zerorequiem42]

Spice is my favorite guest you have on there bar none. He is just so charming and witty. And since 8 rack is favorite and permanent part of my decks, I can appreciate his good taste.

[@beatriztneves]

Why is an mtg youtuber the styliest person I have ever seen in my life?

[@Dmitrisnikioff]

because you do not go out socially often enough

[@Resuarus]

I love Sam just vibing in the background.

[@Nozerone]

Reminds me of a dude that gave himself infinite health. Was like "ok, cool, my turn". He kept trying to say the game was over, that I had no way of winning and I should just give up. Told him he can give up if he wants, but we aren't stopping just cause he has infinite health. I ended up winning cause he ran out of cards, and the rest of his deck was shit. He built his deck just for that infinite health combo.

[@Greenman-io7pr]

TFW no Felidar Sovereign

[@Ara_Arasaka]

The fact this came out of a Pauper deck and was improvised on the spot is some top level stuff.

[@SkyFire2112]

Easily my favourite moment in any Shuffle up and play so far! The Prof, Spice and Rhistic Studies dynamic is unrivalled.

[@masongrae5010]

This inspired me to build a rakdos goblin deck with this as a win con option and it has been brutal for the table

[@AutkastKain]

Loved this being discovered live on screen

[@thepangolinking]

As a goblin player, he is definitely playing goblins correctly. Skirk is the base of almost all goblin shenanigans.

[@SubjectDelta20]

When Seneca Crane from Hunger Games decided to get into Magic:TG

[@jacobperry2491]

Who yassified John Wick?

[@Spice8Rack]

Lmao

[@kirika119]

I would be too distracted by his beautiful accent to even know I’m dying

[@nmh11]

This is why any time I see sam and spice together in a video, I click

[@alexweaver2078]

This is the clip that made me fall in love with Spice. Such great content. I appreciate Prof and his willingness and joy of having other content creators on his channel.

[@crazydiamond3403]

Idk anything about magic as I only play Yu-Gi-Oh but this short alone made me subscribe and I'm interested in magic

[@doctorcatster8751]

based Josuke pfp

[@connorcampbell-bisson8721]

I actually pulled a similar trick last week at my LGS. Urabrask + Vadrick + Haze of Rage. Best part? One of the guys had a board of like 40 vampires and everyone else thought he was gonna win.

[@damionstoen2596]

I get people that complain about 2 card combos but 3+ card combos are so much harder to assemble

[@starstreamheartlocke652]

It's all about how quickly they get pulled together and how much removal and counter spelling you need to deal with along the way. It's why green doesn't frustrate people as much even if the end result is practically the same.

[@JonasHyldgaard]

dudes skin is so smooth it looks unnatural

[@thedepressedguydoesstuff]

Fun fact you can also do this in yugioh. You have to show that the loop does in fact go on infinitely by showing it I believe at least 3 times is the ruling, I believe, but after that you can simply say “This loop is infinite, I do this (insert desired number here) times”, rather than actually doing it 40,000,000,000,000,000 times

[@conrradotorres4653]

When the Class Clown takes the Professor to school. I've seen it on multiple occasions and this may be a first for Magic 🤣

[@umadbroyo2388]

Week 3 of watching random MTG videos. Still donno whats going on but I am having fun😊

[@MoonlightMidknight]

Who is this handsome vampire that just won? I'm in love.

[@the3rdshelf]

love this episode so much that I built this goblin deck as well.

[@heroknightt]

This is what i love about MTG.. you can be hella creative when it comes to creating a deck. And this is just insane you can somehow pull infinite mana and damage out of the ass and instantly win

[@roysmoothfinger]

"Your deck has commons. This will be easy" The commons in question....

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

To be fair he did not specify who it would be easy for lol

[@SeedlingNL]

According to the rules, declaring to use a loop an infinite amount of times means you just drawn the game. You MUST declare a finite number of times the loop runs, otherwise the other player never gets a chance to counter its effects.

[@DarktheEagle]

I mean, he did declare a finite number of times. 1 trillion, for 5 damage each.

[@destructoboom]

A player taking optional actions "infinitely" doesn't cause a draw. It usually ends up in a judge being called, and if it persists, the player taking the actions must choose a different line-of-play, else they are removed from the game and lose.

[@whitey00112]

Of course Spice won with goblins 😂

[@tapedeccard]

spicy combo

[@mattpresley9809]

Id be the walty player that would make you go through each step specifically to burn me to death

[@nicoyadiaz3150]

See if I had this type of video format back in the day I would’ve gladly played this card game

[@realNoMee]

Infinite attacks = 5 trillion damage. Math checks out.

[@N5O1]

he could name any number because he has infinite resources, he could say 100, 5 trillion or any other number

[@Sdogofdoom]

IIRC you HAVE to name an actual number, you cant just say "i deal infinite damage". Its to make it so that infinite health combos can be killed by infinite damage combos EG "I gain 20 million health" "ok well i deal 21 million damage", otherwise you reach a game state where you claimed to gain infinite health, but actually do have a defined health total. On the damage side of things, if prof had some response that generated infinite health after the 5 trillion damage was declared, he could simply say "ok i gain 10 trillion health and am left with 5 trillion after damage."

[@draconianmethods704]

I love Spice8Rack

[@ReikoNova]

It is such a fun person to see get excited

[@Patrick_The_Pure]

This is why the house rule exists: "You don't do this crap".

[@stephenshaffer918]

This was such a cool moment. He organically found this combo.

[@gr1nder07]

Cant remember the exact cards used, but i remember creating a control situation where I couldn't lose and my opponents couldn't win on every single turn. Since this was a loaned deck the quote that sticks out is my friend saying " that's not even supposed to be a control deck, how are you playing control??" Lol, it was a great feeling

[@RagingIfrit]

I find that the icing on the cake is that flamewave invoker doesn't tap while activating the creatures effect

[@Taervis]

The dab combined with the air horn at the end cracks me up!

[@l3lixx]

Aleph-null bottles of beer on the wall, Aleph-null bottles of beer, Take one down, and pass it around, Aleph-null bottles of beer on the wall .. sing it again

[@Ryusuta]

Scenes like this are why I will always prefer 1v1 to Commander.

[@smokingbeard7796]

absolute masterclass if you consider he didnt knew the decklist before... and came up with the combo on the spot

[@gobijb5443]

People saying "i can win" instead saying "i've won" is more respectful than you can ever imagine

[@urbescapade]

Non-Magic player here and I must know: Has the "Hang on. I can win the game" line become a meme in the community? The delivery was perfect and so matter of fact. Just that moment he realised the domino line he built was ready to go off, brilliant.

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

Tragically, no. I wish

[@rueryuzaki666]

There's sometimes I'm playing and I'll just look at the board and be able to tell it's game, it's kinda in a way like looking at a chess board, if you know what you're looking at, you can just end it

[@jimstyx]

You have nothing to lose but your chains, and I just melted them with a fiery goblin God I love spice

[@burningbelow4424]

Is it just me or does dood look like he could be a doctor who incarnation

[@Hatneas]

God I love Spice. Anytime I see an upload with Spice I watch instantly

[@ogOAFgaming]

I have been up now for 24 hours ... Instead of sleep, I'm checking my bulk for these

[@SomeOfTheJuice]

I love that, at least according to MTG Top8, this combo has managed to top 8 a pauper event.

[@itsthecanadianking]

buddy looks like a Zesty John Wick who instead of killing people, paints their nails

[@willemvermaak4388]

Sometimes I feel like I kinda get Magic. Then I watch this, rewatch it, pause it, read it, rewatch it, and learn I will never understand Magic

[@lewisblackwiththenicehair]

I dont know how to describe it, but I feel like they picked the right guy to play this deck

[@alexanderhanksx]

The few times this has happened to me it hurt, but I was also too impressed to be upset 😂 Very bitter sweet

[@askholia]

I have a friend like this that even with the worst of the worst cards comes up with the craziest infinite loops and game breaking combos. I am pretty sure he is a wizard, but who can never be sure.

[@reubenoakley5887]

That man ended the Professor's career on the First Day of Class 😂

[@evertime123]

This was an INCREDIBLE episode Definitely +2/2 worthy

[@chjp2125]

For a second I thought this was Jack Whitehall and his father playing Magic: The Gathering

[@darthdrakob1372]

Never thought I'd see Lucifer playing Magic, but here we are

[@sorarivers8667]

By viewing the thumbnail for this short, you have lost The Game™

[@iWhisperASMR]

THAT BEARD, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO PLAYING FOR TESLAS...

[@stackup31]

I once won with ramses assassin lord, and another creature, a 6/4 with " at your end step, this creature deals dmg to target player who was dealt dmg this turn" I gave said creature unblockable, and gave ramses haste with swift foot boots, and attacked with both of them. Ramses states that if a player loses this game, and I attacked with an assassin I control, I win the game. The other 2 players where surprisingly nice about it. Said that my deck had a cool idea. Fun game

[@jedidiahrains2233]

Showing how the combo triggers was a gentleman's maneuver

[@sincereflowers3218]

I once had a smelly friend named Aaron. Aaron loved magic, and he fucking LOVED commander, but his greatest moment to my eyes was when he made a table of 4 players rage quit using a monoblue control deck that involved Into The Infinite. I genuinely only remember that part of it, seeing him basically get infinite repeated turns, and use of his entire library with infinite mana. The fact that one of our guys was running sLiVeRs stands out as well, because up until that point I assumed a slivers only commander deck was the grossest.

[@thewatcherinthecloud]

"Hang on. I can win the game." And at that moment, I lost the game.

[@notrackscntfndme6156]

5 trillion damage, I think it's a tie that sounds like a world ending goblin explosion. 😮 😂😂 ❤❤❤