MTG - Advanced Modern Studies: Red / Green Karn Tron, A Tier 1 Deck Tech for Magic: The Gathering

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

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[@mrbreeze3954]

Tolarian Community College that pauper deck made me approach to this great format, to be honest i don't own that deck, i was simply inspired by your video, now i'm building a sweet pauper affinity list, thanks a lot professor!

[@SaintDmac]

would you be able to make a updated version of this video?

[@progste]

RG Tron is more Ramp than Aggro, the difference being that a aggro deck focuses on playing cost-effective threats as soon as possible and in general attacks your life points as a primary objective before you have enough board state to control them while a ramp deck spends the early game growing his mana pool by various means and then proceeds to play something almost impossible to answer like Emrakul or some other giant thing. This kind of ramp usually predates on control decks because they have enough time to execute their strategy, but they are weak to aggro which can race them in the early game, when they have few ways to interact.

[@XAmusedGryphonX]

I have recently started playing GR Tron, and my list is as follows: Artifact (12) 4x Chromatic Sphere 4x Chromatic Star 4x Expedition Map Creature (6) 4x Wurmcoil Engine 1x Emrakul, The Aeons Torn 1x Ulamog, The Infinite Gyre Sorcery (16) 2x All is Dust 4x Ancient Stirrings 4x Firespout 2x Pyroclasm 4x Sylvan Scrying Planeswalker (6) 4x Karn Liberated 2x Ugin, The Spirit Dragon Land (20) 4x Urza’s Mine 4x Urza’s Power Plant 4x Urza’s Tower 4x Grove of the Burnwillows 1x Breeding Pool 1x Forest 1x Ghost Quarter 1x Eye of Ugin

[@humanemadness3115]

Can you do an updated tron deck?

[@anonymousham4166]

Thank you so much! I asked for this video and you delivered! I have made my R/G Tron deck now and i am experimenting with lightning greaves, quicksilver amulet, and steel Hellkite. A turn 4 cheated in attacking Emrakul is nice😉

[@HellHound_]

1:07 Thats a sentence many magic the gathering professors say :D

[@HellHound_]

Btw love the intro to the video

[@masochisticgamer2082]

Its cool to look back at old versions of current decks

[@TheFeatureFinder]

Possibly your best video yet good sir. Very enjoyable to watch with plenty of technical advice thrown in. I would like to see a Red Deck Wins/Mono Red Aggro video. I have a decent one built, but I'm short on finances for major cards like the Goblin Rabblemaster. The topic of upgrading a budget deck would be awesome. Should I run the maximum of 8 fetchlands to thin my draws out? Or is it more important to invest in 3 more Stoke The Flames and a few Rabblemasters?

[@TheFeatureFinder]

Should have included this: I play Standard.

[@techmage4567]

Mono red aggro doesn't need fetches since your mana curve centers at 1 or 2 making the excess land redundant

[@TheFeatureFinder]

Techmage 45 My reasoning for the fetches is thus: if I eliminate eight basic land cards and replace them with fetches, I can really thin out my deck. It essentially lets me run a 52 card deck and increases my chances of pulling a spell versus another mountain that I don't need. Is this logic flawed? Sounded really good when the fella I met the other day at my LGS explained it. (No he wasn't just trying to sell me fetches lol.)

[@techmage4567]

the logic is flawed since if you think about it you are replacing mountains with cards that let you get a mountain the point is that you are still drawing a land but I suppose that you have to have 1/3 of your deck land (about) but it doesnt increase your chance of drawing a spell since you have the same number of land in your deck

[@alexandercastleberry480]

Rock Star Vapes Even running 8 fetches, if you play a game to turn 8, which is hella late, you would only see two fetches in those 15 cards. That means you are thinning a 53 card deck to 52 at the worst and a 45 card deck to 43 at the best. This increases your odds of drawing a non land card by approx 1.9% - 2.3%. That basically translates to: Over the course of 100 games where it came down to wire and one card was the difference between winning and losing, running an additional $120 - $160 [at the moment] worth of cards will win you about 2 games if deck thinning is the factor. They have a few more solid functions, deck thinning is a very minor bonus attribute. If a card you don't want is on top of your library, it happens in blue often, you can use the fetch for a shuffle. Or, if a card you want was put on the bottom of your library, the shuffle will move it up. Also handy if you really just feel like you need a good shuffle. Mana fixing in an awesome way. They don't just grab basic lands, they grab lands that have that have plains, swamp, island, forest, mountain in the land type so shocks and other useful lands can be sought out with them. It does hurt to pay 3 turn one but it can be worth it get the shock you need out and running. Basically, if you are a Pro-Tour ultra competitive player who does this to pay your bills, you want fetches. you want anything that could possibly give you that slight advantage over your opponent. If you just play at your LGS or with friends and family then fetches are nice but not necessary. If you are looking for a way to inflate the cost of a deck so yours is more expensive than a buddies then fetches are the perfect choice.

[@dunkinurdonuts1677]

Hi Tolarian , you are doing a great job with these videos and I hope you continue !

[@adamgentle5476]

Woo! Your "conference" with Mr. Bolas was quite intense, yet gave me a good chuckle. Keep it up Prof. Thank you for making these Videos, they really help me understand a game I enjoy, but rarly "get" at time. : D

[@Danem2186]

Thanks for all the videos you put up, they're wonderful assets to have available! As a new player, something I would like to see you do a tutorial video on is the mindset or thought process behind thinning your deck. I've heard about it and I think I get the gist, but I really have no clue when to know if deck thinning will help, or how I would actually go about the process. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

[@Danem2186]

Thanks for the reply! I was mainly referencing fetch land thinning, but I didn't know enough to specify lol! I never thought of weeding out deck candidates as thinning before, but it makes a lot of sense.

[@youtubenoobdude5724]

Another great lesson on the Modern format by the professor! May I be so bold as to suggest Bloom Titan due to its surprising success at the recent modern pro tour for your next video in this series? Thanks for all the great content.

[@TheCrazyscarecrow]

RG Tron is a great deck. I'm running a somewhat budget version of it right now (no groves and only 1 Karn), but I've been managing top 4 at my local FNM a lot and just got first place last Friday :D

[@bqmiller]

TheCrazyscarecrow add the list if you can

[@docmcflop7728]

Great video as always professor! I always enjoy the introductions to your videos, they're always entertaining, especially this one.

[@alholz7836]

When I played tron, I played a super agressive, shaved down version in mono green. I tried running karns and ugins, but found they didn't have nearly as immediate an effect as just a simple large creature. After the release of battle for zendikar, I dropped emrakul, ugin, and karn in favor of ulamog and later adding reality smasher and eldrazi temples. The deck was also a whole lot easier to pilot than your (equally awesome) r/g variant.

[@ethanlewis2218]

would love to see an update of this video since the deck dropped emrakul, eye of ugin was banned, ugin became an undisputed mainstay, and the deck switched to green white for the superior sideboard. this is one modern deck in serious need of an updated video. Tom Ross's first place at SCG Columbus as well as other recent surges in tron tournament results proves the deck has just as much tier 1 cred as ever and makes it a perfect time for an update. just a suggestion, keep making great videos!

[@jolssoni2499]

GW was mostly a kneejerk reaction to Dredge which just got banned into tier 2 or below, Sudden Shock is infinitely better vs UR Fiend, Affinity and Infect than Path or Blessed Alliance and Pyroclasm is just better vs everything from fish to burn to hatebears. Tiers represent meta shares, not power level. Otherwise yeah could use an update.

[@BushRat253]

I LOVE these Advanced Modern Studies videos! Thanks Professor!

[@as_bxr]

A couple of months ago I decided to build myself a RG Tron Deck. I pulled a Ugin from a Fate Reforged booster so I thought why not MD him? It turns out To be great! An 2 Spellskite main are necessary!

[@DeisFortuna]

can I put the ending frame of this video on a playmat with no explanation to people at my LGS?

[@Ch4p4ch4]

Oh my God, I laughed so much with the beginning!!! Congratulations, it is a fantastic video, as all the other ones you've made!! Greetings from Spain :)

[@cinderstar6634]

Its amazing to see how different tron is now than back then

[@GigaLordShinyMudkip1]

Another great video Professor! Easy to follow and very informative.

[@HeroesandLegendsMTG1]

I played Red Green Tron a year ago but had a lot of trouble with Splinter Twin Decks. I would like to try Blue Tron.

[@thegoodiemen5963]

I've been designing a Landfall-based deck that utilizes Scapeshift. I think I'll throw a couple of Urza lands and an Emrakul in 'cause I might as well. But only testing will tell how well that works out.

[@suhleap]

'in that voice wedge does whenever someone follows his stream' OMG THANKS FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO I LOVE YOU

[@l_scanu8645]

Yeahhh I'll just stick to my £10 Pauper deck lol amazing video as always professor! I can't wait for Dragons Of Tarkir, how about you?

[@jeffchann4556]

Luca Scanu I built mono-green infect for around $12

[@sudeon9891]

Many magic the gathering players ask the question - is that your wife?

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Edilberto Carlos Jr. Nope! Just my friend. My wife is adamant she does not want to appear on camera, but I am trying to change her mind.

[@sudeon9891]

Well maybe someday prof. I really love your funny intros

[@Hohmies86]

Well how goes the trying to get ones spouse to appear on camera..... I say start her off like the neighbor on Tim Allen’s tool time! Just her eyes and forehead, and the viewers never know when she is going to reveal her entire face!

[@Hohmies86]

Tolarian Community College tell her she can be like the neighbor on home improvement with Tim Allen

[@offbeatgaming159]

I'm loving the regular videos! Keep this up! We'll be at 100k in no time :) keep it up professor!

[@WilhelmScreamer]

I love the persona of the professor that you put on at times

[@OtisOtisHH17]

The music, graphics, and the dude's voice all make me think I'm watching some instructional video in the Cowboy Bebop universe.

[@lemonflavouredtnt6969]

I love the intro skits in these older videos

[@Jedicake]

the idea of tron excites me a ton. I wonder if a Tron deck could work with Legacy Weapon/Crystal Quarry???

[@nublord365]

Spellskite is a must in this deck, preferably with 4 in the 75 somewhere. It's your best bet against a field of twin, scapeshift, infect, boggles, burn and amulet bloom.

[@yeschef9749]

A sultai control list from standard would be a nice video. Plus what could happen to it in the new set

[@iibrett]

Great video as usual, enjoying the series as I'm looking to start playing modern asap. :)

[@MizzCombobulated]

Hey professor, I have a question! I have recently purchased an absolutely beautiful play mat but it is a bit large and will not fit in the play mat tubes made by either Monster or Dragon Armor. I currently have it rolled up card sleeve-contact side in and it's gently tied with a ribbon to keep it rolled and hopefully not damaged. Are there any tubes that can fit it? If not, how can I care for it to see it won't get damaged? I appreciate you taking the time to read this comment! Cheers!

[@KeeganMcKinney]

Many Magic the Gathering players ask the question; Is it possible to combine the two strategies into a Temur Tron midrange deck? If so, I'd love to see a deck tech! 🙂👍

[@Wolfenmedic65d]

any modern control deck next would be cool. I'm always building new modern decks.

[@TippyCraft]

Great video as always. I have a request, since FTV Angels will be coming out later this year if you could do a Angel themed commander deck.

[@Xeroxorex]

Very good video. You said "RG doesn't want to run karn" at about 2 mins, I think you meant "mono U doesn't want to run karn" other than that it was fantastic. I'd love to see a followup rebuttal with Johnny coming back with a UG tron list with karn ugin emrakul and fat daddy stacks of mana to show that tier 2 brewing of decks is absolutely viable, and sometimes you just want to have fun 75% of the games you do get to do fun things in, and it's ok if it is way worse and loses 25% of the time. Fun fact, turn 2 explore means turn 3 ugin!

[@eila2088]

If you can go off in 75% of the games that should be a Tier 1 deck; the ratio is much lower and I rather play a deck that actually can win if you are spending almost a thousand dollars.

[@bubblebath86]

Professor, if you cut out all the red and just go mono green, how much does the cost/efficacy drop? Also, how many of the key cards are getting a reprint in MM2?

[@iambensummers]

It is possible to make a mono-green version for ~$65 nowadays ($40 if you get your cards from the right places). No, it's not tier 1, but turn 4 Monstrous Colossus of Akros is a bundle of joy.

[@cmvedder2]

This seemed like a good spot to leave a comment. Real simple question, when karn restarts the game does everything on the board go back into the deck except for what was exiled with karns effects? I've seen instances where everything is shuffled back in the library and other instances where everything but what is on the board is. I'm not sure which is right. The way I read a restart is that everything would but aforementioned effects.

[@edwardrex22]

I love Tron! Ugin has made a nice addition as well, but a lot more play testing is needed...

[@eftinti]

Exceptional as always Professor! A pleasure to watch :D

[@sorenunderdahl6853]

I wish you would do some more videos like this!

[@greatbowlsofgravy]

I have a friend who plays a home-brewed blue/green Karn Tron build. He really likes the early threats that green makes easy to get, and he's a sadistic man who enjoys the Mindslaver lock.

[@aylipaolucci9412]

Your friend is a genius

[@mkstragon]

Lol I love the stare down with Nicol Bolas

[@iscaleto]

Hey, Professor! Could you make (or maybe you have already made) a video about Wolves, one of these days? Speaking as a major newbie, I've been trying them out, they are a lot of fun to play and cheap as well. Just wanted to know a bit more about them and whatnot.

[@boltsnapbolt]

Would you be up to updating these older deck tech videos? many of the lists have changed dramatically.

[@Sploorer]

Hi, I'm new to magic and I just love the game. Modern seems fun so I'm thinking about starting to play that instead of standard. But from which sets do i need cards to play modern?

[@chrisromer609]

Your videos are so great, very educational!

[@tm23822]

While I'm running Karn in my u tron deck, I think there is a strong argument I should just replace him with another Ugin. While Karn is perfect for turn 3 tron, Ugin is perfect for u tron as turn 5 tron with the 3 tron lands and an island is not uncommon, and panic board wipe button is quite nice is a deck that has to claw for survival until tron is online. I think the strongest argument to why not Karn is "why not Ugin instead?"

[@CrimsonFox36]

I've also got a tech for a 4-color Burn, and it's pretty sweet. it can hypothetically win by turn 3, which is terrifying. - Creatures- x4 Goblin guide x4 Monastery Swiftspear x4 Eidilon of the Great Revel - Burn- x4 Lightning Bolt x4 Lava Spike x4 Bump in the Night x4 Rift Bolt x4 Collateral Damage (i find this to be more useful than Shard Volley. the way i see it, creatures are expendable. Lands are not.) x4 Boros Charm x3 Lightning Helix x2 Skullcrack x2 Shard Volley - Land- x8 Mountain x4 Bloodstained Mire x2 Wooded Foothills x1 Sacred Foundry x1 Stomping Ground x1 Blood Crypt - Sideboard- x4 Destructive Revelry (a naturalize with a shock stapled on.) x1 Grim Lavamancer x1 Anger of the Gods x2 Skullcrack x2 pyroclasm x1 Browbeat (i personally think this card is hilarious. nobody uses it so nobody knows how to react to seeing it.) x1 Slaughter Games x3 Dragon Claw

[@CrimsonFox36]

yes, but Destructive revelry targets enchantments. it's a naturalize with a shock stapled to it. what would you do if an opponent played Leyline of sanctity on turn 0?

[@CrimsonFox36]

JakesFavorites I see what you are saying, and i understand where you are coming from. but i have yet to thoroughly test this deck. the main reason i dont use Sexing Devil is because he is never what i need him to be. he's not fast enough, and more often than not he dies before i can get any use out of him. i can run some experiments, but i doubt he will be very useful. as for the Blood Moon, i have enough red spells to push me through and i'll just side out my off colors.

[@CrimsonFox36]

JakesFavorites I got back from FNM last night, and let me tell you, Sexing Devil was the worst card in my deck. Burn is making a comeback (at least at my store) so everyone knows how to deal with him. Let him live, then bolt/path him. the only thing i could do was sack him for collateral. the best plays i made were volleying my stomping ground targeted with spreading seas, and my signature 3-turn-kill. My deck isnt necessarily four colours, it's more "Mardu splash green".

[@Pistallion1]

I'd like to see you do one a storm or some sort of combo deck and explain why you hated eggs so much

[@KoiPondDreams]

Couldn't help but notice you have a Karn signed by Jason Chan! I, too, have a signed Karn by Jason Chan!

[@failsc2player]

Would you ever consider doing a Jund video? I would love to know if it could be constructed on a budget for casual play.

[@BanditZRaver]

I want to learn about lesser known decks, the past videos about Modern deck teching is mainly been described as "Teir 1." How about "Teir 2" decks and their qualities? I find it a bit more interesting to see how other players believe in their JANK decks.

[@donaldlee4517]

How long did it take to get all those cards that you used in that build? That is one expensive deck since you had to single it out right? You started playing again with innistrad.

[@Dredgeking]

do you think that you could talk about two decks next...both the restor balance build and the living end builds?

[@jordonwilliams4943]

Professor you should consider a deck video on G/W Tron

[@lyradf]

Whats the title of that book that you referenced to answer the question? I'd like to research Magic more.

[@dimensionfleet]

Another great option for RG Tron is Myr battlesphere. I run two main board.

[@chloes703]

as a percussionist, the beat of the clock at the beginning infuriates me

[@garywong3995]

I run 2 Karn main board in my mono blue TRON, although I cannot tutor it out I can dig it out easily in the middle of the game. When my friend are afraid of the wurms, Karn always plays as a game end character.

[@mrbobomezkin]

what happened to your podcast? i really enjoyed the first two episodes and am wondering if you and Wedge will continue to make more?

[@pauljohnson3317]

Best intro you've ever made! It's hilarious!

[@jamespratt1629]

Maybe revisit burn, it's certainly turned into a tier one deck, consistently placing high lately, and it's very cheap turn into legacy burn. It's actually very similar to how modern merfolk turns into legacy merfolk

[@jasonbarrows4325]

I use a soulflayer/chromanticore deck in modern and would love to know your thoughts on it and how it might be improved.

[@adambillen5164]

Ever thought about about making a podcast about your thoughts on the state of the magic world at the current time?

[@benjaminkunkemueller5350]

The comedy is getting much better

[@TheVikingRaid]

I really like these types of videos

[@Wulfsmasher]

My brother won the fate reforged game day, won the champion mat, one of the prize boosters had an Ugin and he took the exact same picture you had on when talking about Ugin haha

[@progste]

that thing is worth more than 100$

[@TerrySnipers]

So has no one else caught the prof's mistake 2:01 ?

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

+Brigadier Prime A few folks caught it. I wish I had caught it before the video went live. Le sigh. Think of it ass your bumbling Professor getting the page numbers wrong? Because...that's kind of what it is. :)

[@TerrySnipers]

Haha fair play prof, good morning kinda... 4:15 am here in England. I assume you mean as, not ass sir Enlgish major? xD

[@TerrySnipers]

Tolarian Community College I was also putting together a merfolk list as you replied :) Coincidence? I think not

[@Tinycuber1]

what mistake? 2:01 is just the intro slide

[@TerrySnipers]

Listen to it until you hear it

[@dhzero6990]

How do you feel about throwing new emrakul in here prof?

[@grumpypeach]

Hi professor do you think infect is close to if not already a teir one deck. I would love it if you could a a new review of infect. :) ty

[@khalidmubarak3879]

Also a sliver deck class for modern/ casual would be nice

[@austinjohnson2936]

I want to build a modern Sliver deck. Do you think it could be viable or is it just a pipe dream?

[@stevereadman7772]

I love the self humour at the start

[@bullheadgaming7321]

So if we were too oversimplify it extremely, what makes a deck a tron deck is the urza lands and can otherwise be as different i am from my dog? Or am i'm out bicycling?

[@Hohmies86]

I’m in the midst of making a mono green Emrakul deck, of course it’s starting out as a mono green progenitus deck at around 160$. Slowly going to throw money at it until I’ve spent an estimated 1800-2000$

[@danielgoetschel9297]

I have never seen a list run prophetic prism, and not 4 pyroclasms, you really need 4 pyroclasm in tron. I think you should do Burn, with white and green since it is one of the cheaper modern decks and tier 1, I also think you should do scapeshift since it is the funnest deck in modern imo,

[@justinalzner7]

Professor and the youtube community. I have a question, that I myself cannot anwser and was hoping maybe the community could shed some light on. How big is Nicol Bolas?

[@Seekr237]

Please talk about the up coming battle for zendikar block

[@klqc4915]

Would you play kozilek the great distrotion in mono blue tron?

[@oslal]

Maybe... I was asking myself this question as well... Ive tries 2x Ulamog and it was fine! So try it!

[@moxperidot1012]

Si, why isn't Simic Tron more powerful than Gruul Tron? Wouldn't Simic be able to combine the "aggro" of Gruul with the control of Mono-Blue? Or would that be forcing the deck to be trying to do too many things? I'm very curious, and I suppose one good reason would be the lack of a good dual land like Grove of the Burnwillows. But what are other reasons why Simic Tron seems to be nonexistent?

[@theVoidyTv]

Mono Blue Tron REPRESENT

[@NachozMan]

Modern is such a demon to me. I love it as being one of the more open formats to play magic at my local game store, but It almost feels impossible to win with a deck that isn't "Tier one" when everyone else is playing them. Even worse now that the proxie ban is being more enforced. Plus watching people get blown up turn two or three by the ever growing Griselbrand in my area is quite daunting.

[@willdaddario]

I can't build another modern deck! I just can't! Well..maybe one more

[@Luckability1]

Can't wait til you hit 50k!

[@ThatOneZombie21]

I would like to see a modern deck from the Ravinca guilds.

[@70grade37]

So in the show more part it says 3 Wurmcoil's but in the video you say full set? Which one?

[@lokemolund]

Omg, one of my favorite decks!!! :D

[@mendozajenaro]

Profesor what u think about this deck I'm a new player that love magic Creature 4x Elvish mystic 3x Heir of the wilds 4x Savage knuckleblade 2x Jeskai Elder 4x Setessan Oathsworm Spells 2x Temur Ascendancy 2x Ordeal of Nylea 2x Titanic Growth 2x Vinewft 2x Gather Courage 2x Aspect of hydra 2x nullify 3x Aqueous 1x void snare Lands 3x Thornwood fall 3x Rugged highlands 3x Swiftwater cliffs 4x Forest 4x Mountain 4x Island

[@progste]

It won't be competitive and it seems like it's missing a real plan, try looking at some top lists from big tournaments to get an idea on how to build succesfull decks and understand how they work.

[@progste]

JakesFavorites I'm not saying that he has to right out copy them or try to be a pro-player, but he clearly has no idea and asked for advice, his deck has way too few creatures, too many 2x and cards that do nothing for him like Ordeal of Nylea or jeskai elder. There is no fun in playing with a deck that doesn't work and, in a game as big as magic, seeing what others are doing and understanding why is an excellent way to get an idea of what you can do. That also helps in knowing what cards are considered good so he doesn't get ripped off in trades! (and believe me, you will always find at least one person who predates on new players, even in the best communities)

[@nebulousone]

Wow. Way to be friendly and helpful to a new player, guys. jenaro mendoza It completely depends on what you want to do with the deck. If you're playing with friends at home with some intro-pack level decks, then this is perfectly fine. Play games, see what works and what doesn't, try out new things and have fun! (In all likelihood, you'll want to remove the counterspells, because they don't fit your game plan well, and add in some more creature threats.) If your goal is to play at Friday Night Magic or a local gameshop, then just be aware that the deck is probably not going to be competitive and be ready to lose some games. If you're okay with that, go ahead and play it anyway. You'll meet new people, see new decks, get better at the game, and learn what you like to play. If you want to stand a better chance, I would visit Tappedout.com and look at some of the budget standard brews. Tinker with one of those and bring it to start off. There's no need to sink 100s of dollars into a top level competitive deck right away, so don't bother looking at pro decks unless you want to. Tappedout is a pretty friendly, creative community, and I think it's a great place to start. Lastly, don't be put off by people like JakesFavorites who clearly had a not so great experience playing standard at the their LGS. Standard is a good place to start if your local gameshop is friendly (although JakesFavorites makes a valid point about being careful with trades -- I'd avoid trading at first, since some people are asses). Standard has all the disadvantages Jake mentions, but if the community is fun and you're not too concerned about having the top deck and cards, then it can still be a lot of fun. (Thanks Tolarian Community College for a great video!)

[@hammerhead300]

JakesFavorites Frankly, tournament Magic at any level is about competition and having the most money to spend, though obviously with Modern, Legacy, etc. at least the cards don't rotate. I'm not a big fan of the Standard format, but unfortunately, due to the cycle of WoTC and most local game stores pushing Standard and players feeling that they have to play Standard to get much tournament experience, it's much more prevalent than the other formats. That said, it's still fun to play, and anyone who sees Magic cards as more of a monetary investment than a resource to be competitive and have fun has lost sight of what the game is about already. I don't enjoy dropping tons of money on cards any more than anybody else does, but most hobbies are expensive now, and it seems like you have to plan on spending a lot of money if you want to be competitive at anything these days.

[@tomjackson5093]

jenaro mendoza My recommendation for you is to watch more videos on magic. Your deck looks like it falls within the category of standard, so that should be the format you watch videos on. Watch the pro tour dragons of tarkir, learn the cards, and watch deck techs. You will understand how to make better decks, and soon you will maybe know enough to make your own competitive deck, provided of course that you are willing to spend money to do so.

[@evanawesomer5815]

Please do more of these

[@cypho1807]

Many magic the gathering players ask the question - Are there any B/W tier 1 decks in modern? Is tokens the best us Orzhov players can do?

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Cypho Black White tokens.

[@SuperMiracleMan]

B/W tokens is extremely good in my opinion. It can crush Delver decks and if you're lucky you can beat infect, which is a hard match up in my opinion.

[@cmvedder2]

Also the viability of a white green tron with everything in the deck being pretty standard except for elesh Norns and batterskulls

[@khalidmubarak3879]

It would be nice to have one of these classes going in modern mono green elves that doesnt run craterhoof behemoth. Ive dont it because im a very tribal centric gamer in that a card must provide something to the deck that the tribe cant do normally on its own. Craterhoof is faster damage but ive been able to be tougher than the elves been thrown at me with it.

[@ramoncorrea5716]

This was really helpful.